1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm w BZY, Boston's 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: new radio. 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 2: All right, well, I enjoyed that last hour. I'm not 4 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 2: a big coffee officionado, but I enjoy talking with George Howell. 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: And I hope if you drop into one of his 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 2: locations that he identified for us, you will be able 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: to tell him you heard him on the radio in WBZ. 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 2: So we might have made a friend last hour, which 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: is always good. So I'll tell you who didn't make 10 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 2: a friend today, Seth Moulten, I think probably lost a 11 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: friend in Ed Markey. This is an interesting race. This 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: is an interesting race, and you know this is politics. 13 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: One oh one. You have Seth Moulton, who's been in 14 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 2: Congress now for about ten years, maybe a little longer, 15 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 2: forty six years of age, a veteran of Iraq and Afghanistan, 16 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: Harvard graduate, who is going to take a shot at 17 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: a US senator. Now. Very rarely do US senators lose, 18 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: as Joe Kennedy found out when he decided to run 19 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 2: against Ed Markey. Markey was elected to Congress in nineteen 20 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: seventy six. He succeeded then the late Torbert McDonald, who 21 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:22,199 Speaker 2: had been a contemporary of President Kennedy and McDonald died, 22 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 2: and so Marky was first elected to Congress in nineteen 23 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: seventy six, close pretty close to fifty years ago. Before that, 24 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: he was up at the legislature, and he positioned himself 25 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 2: as the ultimate outsider. We've had Ed Markey on the 26 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: show on many occasions, who have had Seth Moulton on 27 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 2: the show on many occasions, and we hoped, probably as 28 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: this race develops, to have both of them on. As 29 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: I've said to Ed Markey on many occasions, he is, 30 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: without a doubt, my favorite United States Senator from Massachusetts, 31 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: although a reminder of the bar is kind of low. 32 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: It's between him and Elizabeth Warren. So Marky wins that. 33 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: Seth Molten is someone who's been on this show, and 34 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: we've done programs with him both in studio, over the phone, 35 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 2: and indeed remotely up at Endicott College when we were 36 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: doing our Talk the Vote series. So it's a fascinating race. 37 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 2: Mark he's been in Congress now for well forty eight years. 38 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: I guess forty nine years if you want to count. 39 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: He was able to He was elected in November of 40 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: nineteen seventy six and he immediatelyfilled the seat. It was 41 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: a special election as well as a regular election. He 42 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 2: emerged from a field of about ten candidates in September, 43 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: and I think he had twenty one or twenty two 44 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: percent of the vote, but with the Democratic nomination, he 45 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 2: was elected. I stood next to him in Washington as 46 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 2: a young television reporter the day that he was sworn 47 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: into Congress by the Speaker of the House, who proceeded 48 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: Tip O'Neil. Tip O'Neil had served as the Speaker of 49 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: the House from nineteen seventy seven until nineteen eighty seven, 50 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 2: and before him was a guy named Carl Albert, who 51 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 2: I think actually came from a town called bug Tussle, Oklahoma, 52 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 2: if my memory serves. Albert walked into the room and 53 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: I feared from home, and he's going to try to 54 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: swear me in because Markey and I were fairly close 55 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 2: in age. I'm much younger, actually younger, but I looked 56 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 2: at Albert, the speaker, who was looking at me, and 57 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: I pointed at Mark. You know, he's the guy that 58 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 2: swear in. I never forget that day. Interesting. We had 59 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: dinner the night before, so I've known ed Markey a 60 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 2: long time. He and I don't agree on politics all 61 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 2: the time, but he has evolved and he has become 62 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: a real leader of the progressive wing of the Democratic Party. 63 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: Seth Moulton is also a progressive Democrat. I mean, you 64 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: don't elect conservative Democrats in Massachusetts. He got himself in 65 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 2: some trouble last spring when he talked about his concern 66 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 2: about transgender males participating in high school sports. He has 67 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: two young daughters, very beautiful little girls, who you saw 68 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 2: if you've seen the Moulten announcement. We have the Moulten announcement. 69 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 2: We have neither Market nor Molten tonight, and I thought 70 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 2: it probably would be best to give you an opportunity 71 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: to weigh in in the race, whether you're a Democrat 72 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: or not. We have the Moulten announcement was put together obviously. 73 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 2: If this has been in the works now for several weeks, 74 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 2: if not a couple of two or three months, and 75 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: the process is interesting. In the process, if you're an 76 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: incumbent congressman and you decide you're going to try to 77 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,119 Speaker 2: step up, I would say step up to the Senate. 78 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: Because there's four hundred and thirty five members of Congress 79 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: and there's only one hundred members of the Senate. It's 80 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: considered the world's most exclusive club. One hundred members two 81 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 2: for me each state, fifty states times two is one hundred. 82 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: And unlike the House, where there there is you know, 83 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: literally it can be it can be like mud wrestling 84 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 2: at times in the House because there's so many people 85 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 2: and there was such a wide swath of individuals on 86 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 2: both sides. Each side has there some you know, characters. 87 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 2: Let's put it like that. Okay, we'll be kind. But 88 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: Moulton is a is a respected member of the Democrats 89 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 2: in the House and is respected by Republicans as well. Obviously, 90 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: his service in the military mark He's been in the 91 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: Senate now for since twenty fourteen, and so this will 92 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 2: be his just trying to figure he was elected. He was. 93 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 2: He was elected to succeed Paul Kirk, who had filled 94 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: Ted Kennedy's seat. He won in twenty fourteen. Then he 95 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: faced Joe Kennedy in twenty twenty, which was an anomaly 96 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 2: of a year. It was a COVID year. Many people, 97 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 2: including myself, thought that Markey probably would have stepped aside 98 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 2: at that point, but he didn't. Particularly facing a popular 99 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 2: young congressman and Joe Kennedy and Marquie prevailed, and now 100 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: he's facing a kind of a similar situation. He is 101 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: six years older. That age is going to be an issue. 102 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 2: Let me play a little bit of the Moulten announcement, 103 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: and I'm interested in hearing from you, whatever your background, 104 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: whether you're a Democrat, Republican, or more likely an independent. 105 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: The vast majority of voters in Massachusetts thinks now about 106 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: sixty two sixty three percent are registered as unenrolled of 107 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 2: what would you would think of as independence. So this 108 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 2: is the first thing that Moulton has to do is 109 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: he has to establish amongst Democrats a reason to run 110 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 2: and a reason to replace an incumbent United States Senator. Now, 111 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 2: whoever wins this primary, whether it's Seth Moulton, market will 112 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 2: be elected to the Senate. There's no Republican that I 113 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 2: know of in Massachusetts that has a prayer of being 114 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: elected to the United States Senate. Now maybe I don't know, 115 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 2: maybe there's some Republican who will emerge, but as of tonight, 116 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 2: there are three gubernatorial candidates who potentially could be elected. 117 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: Massachusetts does have a history of electing Republicans to the 118 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: corner office to the Governor's office. But this is Seth 119 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: Moulton's statement. And again, this was a statement that he 120 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 2: must have worked on for weeks. He must have made 121 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 2: this decision. And one of my first questions I'm going 122 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: to ask Seth Moulton is when did you make that decision? 123 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 2: And what forced you over the line to making that decision. 124 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 2: I don't know what he'll say, but let's go to 125 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 2: Cut twenty A. This is Seth Moulton basically indicting not 126 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: only at Marquie, but the entire Democratic Senate and the 127 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: Democratic Party for that matter, for not fighting hard enough. 128 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: Cut twenty eight rough. 129 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: My toughest battle was in a cemetery in Iraq, But 130 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 3: out of respect for everyone who does heroic things every 131 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 3: day without medals or commendations, I don't. 132 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 4: Like to tell war stories. I'm Seth Moulton, and instead. 133 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 5: Of talking about my battles, I want to talk about ours, 134 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 5: the battles we're all seeing right now. Let's talk about 135 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 5: how hard people are working just to stay afloat, and 136 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 5: how unaffordable everything has become. Let's talk about our need 137 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 5: for universal health care and how Republicans would rather shut 138 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 5: down the government. 139 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 4: Than lower health care costs. Let's talk about. 140 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 3: Our children and the future that will be left for 141 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 3: them if we don't protect our democracy and tackle climate change. 142 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 3: But we also have to talk about the things we 143 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 3: don't want to, like how Democrats have failed to stop 144 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 3: Donald Trump's harmful racist agenda. 145 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 4: Our party has clung to. 146 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 3: The status quo, insisted on using the same old playbook, 147 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 3: and isn't fighting hard enough. 148 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 2: I would call Seth Moulten out on one statement there. 149 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 2: The Republicans don't want to shut down the government. It's 150 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 2: the Republicans in the House who voted overwhelmingly to have 151 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 2: a continuing resolution to keep the government open for seven weeks. 152 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 2: It would not be closed if the Senate had concurred 153 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 2: in that continuing resolution. It is all the Republicans of 154 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 2: the Senate except for Rand Paul along with two or 155 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 2: three Democrats, including John Fetterman of Pennsylvania, who are voting 156 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 2: to reopen the government to keep the government open. So 157 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: that that is a mischaracterization. Now it will work for 158 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 2: Seth Moulten, but it's not the Republicans that want to 159 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: shut the government down. The Republicans are opposed to some 160 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 2: of the certainly of Obamacare and aspects of that. They 161 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 2: want to debate that, so we'll get to that a 162 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 2: little later. But let me go to Seth Moulten says 163 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: that Ed Marky's a good man, but his time has passed. 164 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 2: Cut twenty b rob the next generation. 165 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 4: We'll keep paying the costs if we don't change course. 166 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 3: This isn't a fight we can put off for another 167 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 3: six years. The future we all believe in is on 168 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 3: the line. We're in a crisis, and with everything we 169 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 3: learned last election, I just don't believe Senator Markie should 170 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 3: be running for another six year. 171 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 4: Term at eighty years old. 172 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 3: Even more, I don't think someone who's been in Congress 173 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 3: for half a century is the right person to meet 174 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 3: this moment and win the future. 175 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 4: Senator Marky's a good man. 176 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 3: But it's time for a new generation of leadership, and 177 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 3: that's why I'm running for US. 178 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 2: Seven echoes of John Kennedy. There, folks, echoes of John Kennedy. 179 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 2: Remember Seth Moulton did run for at least briefly, for president. 180 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 2: He was looking at the Democratic nomination in twenty twenty four, 181 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 2: and he was in the race briefly before he stepped 182 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 2: away he was the I think it was twenty twenty four, 183 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: if it could have been as early as twenty twenty. Actually, 184 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 2: I got to go back and double check on that. 185 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 2: I will, I promise, I don't want to be incorrect 186 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 2: either way on that. But so that's the beginning of 187 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: the pitch from Seth Molten. Democrats are not fighting hard enough. Uh, 188 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 2: and although Ed Markey is a good guy, he's too old. 189 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: It's time for a new generation of leadership. Okay, I 190 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 2: want to know from you. Uh does this appeal to you? 191 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 2: And if you are, I don't care what you are 192 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 2: put your You can either call me as as a 193 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 2: Republican Democrat or independent, identify yourself or not, or you 194 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 2: can call in is a political strategist. Do you think 195 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 2: Seth Moulton has a chance six one seven, two, five 196 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven nine three one ten 197 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: thirty Ed Markey has a record loyal Democrat. The other 198 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 2: question is that some suggestion that Aana Presley might decide 199 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 2: to get in the race as well and try to 200 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: uh go to the to the left of both of them. Uh, 201 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 2: this might be a really fine election year twenty twenty 202 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 2: six six one seven, two five, four, ten thirty, six one, seven, nine, three, one, 203 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 2: ten thirty. If you are a Molten or Marquie partisan, 204 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 2: this is the opportunity to UH, to stand up and 205 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 2: be counted. We're taking all calls, all comers. Coming back 206 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 2: on night Side, we will talk about this at least 207 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 2: for this hour, I hope, and maybe even until midnight. 208 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 2: Coming back on night Side. 209 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 1: It's night Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's news radio. 210 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: Well, I want to get to my callers here, which 211 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: is most important, and I'd like to get to as 212 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 2: many of you as possible. And I see some familiar faces, 213 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: and I see some different faces. The only lines open 214 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 2: six one, seven, two, five, four to ten thirty. It 215 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: is a seismic race here in Massachusetts, Moulton versus Marky. 216 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 2: Let me go to Bill. Now, Bill, I know you're 217 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 2: a Republican. I know that you probably are hoping they 218 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 2: both will lose. But that won't appen. 219 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 6: No, that's not going to happen. I'll tell you, if 220 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 6: we could get like a real viable I'm talking like 221 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 6: somebody that would be like a Tom Brady on the 222 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 6: Republican side. After these two clowns beat themselves up and 223 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 6: we ran actually a good campaign, put some money into it. 224 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 6: I mean, but the lay of the state now, Dan, 225 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 6: and just the way it's really becoming the poll office 226 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 6: of the eighty percent of the country. It's you know, 227 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 6: but let me ask. 228 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 2: You this, Why would someone like Tom Brady or anyone 229 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 2: of that caliber decide to run in Massachusetts? This is 230 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 2: an overwhelmingly democratic state, Scott. The election of Scott Brown 231 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 2: in twenty ten was an election that was held in January. 232 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 2: It was a lower voter turnout, it was an anomaly. 233 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 2: And yeah, for the first time since ed Brook we 234 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 2: had a Republican We've had Republican governors, but never a 235 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 2: Republican senator. So give me your analysis. You're objective here, 236 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 2: you don't particul you're not a stan of Yeah, what 237 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 2: do you think will happen? 238 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 6: Well, I mean, if Presley gets into it, I don't 239 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 6: think Molten makes it. She'll be the next senator because 240 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 6: it will be the first. You know, the squad and 241 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 6: the people that turn out in the primaries as well 242 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 6: as you know, Dan is not a great sample of me. 243 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 6: The electorate, I mean, the electorate here is definitely liberal, 244 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 6: but I mean they're you know, borderline liberal socialist types. 245 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 2: Okay, so your money's on marketing, right. 246 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 6: No, I think it's well, I think Malton has a 247 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 6: fifty chance of Pressley stays out of It's a fifty 248 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 6: to fifty if he can really sell the people and 249 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 6: Markey comes across as the elder guy, or he makes 250 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 6: a mistake like you know what I mean, and Molten 251 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 6: does have an organization. Okay, yeah, and he's a sit 252 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 6: in congressman. I think it's a fifty to fifty. Presslegue 253 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 6: gets in, it's all over. But I will go down 254 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 6: to the Democratic primary, pull a ballot if it's if 255 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 6: if it's Monkey, Presley, Presly, and uh. And in Moulton, 256 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 6: it's okay, if there's three of them in there, I'll 257 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 6: go down and I'll pull a Democratic primary. I'll ballot 258 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 6: for Moulten. 259 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 7: Okay, Well, see I thought that you might. 260 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 2: I thought you being a Republican. And if I'm wrong 261 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 2: here character you can correct me. Yeah, I assume that. Look, 262 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 2: if Presley gets in, she could win with forty percent 263 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 2: of the vote. Uh. There are a lot of people 264 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 2: could look at Adam Presley and say, hey, she's very liberal. 265 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 2: She's as liberal, maybe even more than Marky at her 266 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 2: core and that they would vote she she she would 267 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 2: have a clear road if she won the nomination to 268 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 2: become Senator pres Leolle. 269 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, that's why I thought that you. 270 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 2: I thought I thought that you would be tempted to 271 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 2: go in and vote for Presley. 272 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 6: No, no, yeah, but you know what, Dan, you can't, 273 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 6: I mean, get enough of these guys. You're gonna have 274 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 6: that guy in New York that's going to destroy the state. 275 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 2: You know, and you know, and the Republicans are the 276 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 2: Republicans are rooting for Mindami. 277 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, but you gonna be can't wear your root for 278 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 6: you know what I mean. You know, if it happens, 279 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 6: it happens, But I don't want to be part of it. 280 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 6: You know, if the city's going to burn down, I 281 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 6: don't want to be the guy with the gasoline, you know, Okay, enough, Yeah, 282 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 6: you know, you know, and and and you know what, 283 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 6: I might just disagree with my fellow citizens and stuff. 284 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 6: You know, I don't know whether they don't really understand. 285 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 6: I just you know, the bad things or the things 286 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 6: that are probably gonna happen or whatever. I just, you know, 287 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 6: I want to sleep at night, Dan, You know, I 288 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 6: wasn't part of it. 289 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 2: You know, I hear you. I hear you. Well, keep 290 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 2: calling nightside has always Bill. I enjoy your calls. Thank 291 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 2: you so much. 292 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 6: Thatunds great. 293 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, but a great night. Yeah, this is one truly 294 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 2: all points of view. More than welcome here. Six one, seven, two, five, four, 295 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 2: ten thirty, six, one, seven, nine, three thirty. You got 296 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 2: to take a quick break for the news. At the 297 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 2: bottom of the hour, we'll be right back. 298 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: Side with Dan Ray on w b Z, Boston's news radio. 299 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 2: Let's get to the call. It's gonna go to Susan 300 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 2: and Cambridge. Susan, I'm so glad you called in. I'm 301 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: very interested in your thoughts. 302 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 7: Oh, thank you. So I like Seth well enough, but 303 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 7: I feel like, uh, for a while now, you know, 304 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 7: since uh going back to when he was and he 305 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 7: kind of opposed Nancy Pelosi running for speaker again, he's 306 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 7: been on this tack of like, you know, we need 307 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 7: new leadership, new younger leadership and everything, a new generation. 308 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 7: But the problem is is that I haven't really seen 309 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 7: him distinguish himself as a congressman in that capacity. You know, 310 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 7: he's he's a perfectly surfers for serviceable Democrat. But I just, uh, 311 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 7: you're damning him with you're. 312 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 2: Damning him with faint praise here, Susan, but keep going. 313 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 7: No, I am unfortunately unfortunately. I mean I would vote again. 314 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 7: I would vote for him against you know, probably you know, 315 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 7: most Republicans, et cetera, you know, but. 316 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 2: I don't think as a Republican that you let me 317 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 2: ask you if it was Joe Kennedy taking his shot. 318 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 2: If it was if let's move forward six years and 319 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 2: said of Seth Moulten, was Joe Kennedy? Would that matter 320 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 2: to you or no? 321 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 7: What are you saying? 322 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 8: If? 323 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 2: In other words, if let's say this was Joe Kennedy. 324 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 7: Mark He's out of the picture. 325 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, no, no, no, no, no. If Marky's let's 326 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 2: say Marky is now approaching eighty uh and he's running 327 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 2: for reelection and instead of Seth Molten stepping up? Is 328 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 2: it if it was Joe Kennedy who said, you know, 329 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 2: I'm going to take another shot, and I might I 330 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 2: think that the circumstances in twenty twenty were just difficult, 331 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 2: and I'm so it was. I'm trying to figure out 332 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 2: whether it's you, like Ed Markey Moore or you like 333 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 2: Seth Moulten less. So I want to take Seth Milton out. Uh. 334 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 2: As we're doing law school, you change facts a little bit. 335 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 2: So now I want to go for. 336 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 7: I feel like like Malton is trying to base his 337 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 7: campaign on you know, the other guy is eighty. The 338 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 7: other guy has been in there for you know however long. 339 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 7: I'm like, okay, but what about you? What do you 340 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 7: have to offer? What's new about you? 341 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 2: Well, he's forty six years old, he's let me. Let 342 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 2: me try to take Moulton's argument. He's forty six years old, 343 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 2: he's a combat entrant. Did I think it was for 344 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 2: tour tours in Iraq? Harvard graduate? Pretty smart guy, he's, uh, 345 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 2: you know Pelosi led the Democrats. I think down the drain. 346 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 2: I don't think Nancy Pelosi in her later years was 347 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 2: a great representative. I think that they should have gotten 348 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 2: rid of Pelosi, and they eventually did. Did we just 349 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 2: lose Susan? Susan called back here. I don't know what 350 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 2: happened to your phone. I hope you my question didn't 351 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 2: overwhelm you. Susan called back. We lost two lines there, Rob, 352 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 2: we lost both the seven eight one lines folks tricee 353 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 2: six one seven nine three one six one seven nine, boy, 354 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 2: I hope we haven't lost those two lines. So what 355 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 2: I was doing with Susan was I was trying to 356 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 2: figure out whether it was just Seth Molten she didn't like, 357 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 2: or if she really liked Marky. Susan called back, Okay, 358 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 2: I did not cut you off. If that's Susan calling back, 359 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 2: we'll put it right on here. And in the second 360 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 2: we we have Susan and Milton and we also have Paul. 361 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 2: So which one is SuSaNi? Okay, great, thanks, Thanks, let 362 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 2: me get back to Susan. Susan, we did not cut 363 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 2: you off there. I'm sure you know that both. There 364 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 2: were two callers on the seven eight one on the 365 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 2: nine six one seven ninety one line go ahead. I 366 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 2: was asking you if it was Joe Kennedy versus Markie, 367 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 2: and take take Seth Bolton out of the equation, would 368 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 2: just still be with Markey. 369 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 7: Probably probably because he did a good job of vanquishing 370 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 7: Kennedy last time around. I mean, there is some concern, yes, 371 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 7: about age, like there's no you know, and he is, 372 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 7: you know, several years older now, so but I feel 373 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 7: like I mean, honestly, I'd be more interested in someone 374 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 7: like Jake Auchenklos Like I think he's doing some interesting 375 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 7: thinking to lead the Democrats in a new way that 376 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 7: I don't see. Seth. He's been at it for ten years. 377 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 7: I mean, you know he's trying to say, oh, you know, Mark, 378 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 7: he's been in Congress for forever. Well, he's been there 379 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 7: ten years and he wants the promotion, and I'm sort 380 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,959 Speaker 7: of like, but why what are you going to do? 381 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 2: That's when Jack Kennedy was in Congress. He was in 382 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 2: Congress for six years. Uh, and then he got a 383 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 2: promotion to the Senate. So if somebody gets into the 384 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 2: House for one term, then you're saying, hey, wait a second, 385 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 2: hold on here, that's okay? Will you? Will you upset 386 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 2: if you want to talk about leading the Democrats in 387 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 2: a new election. Moulton made his comments earlier this year 388 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 2: about transgender men competing against girls in high school, and 389 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 2: he said that he was concerned that his girls, his daughter. 390 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 7: Oh, I understood the concern. I felt like he was 391 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 7: very inartful in how he articulated it. 392 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 2: So by setting a new path in that direction, that. 393 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 7: Was one issue. I just don't think that's one issue. 394 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 7: I'm talking more of like a general sort of ideology. 395 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 7: And like I said, I think Jake Akikoss is an 396 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 7: interesting sort of deeper thinker, and that interests me more 397 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 7: than Seth. I think Seth is kind of trying to 398 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 7: ride on it his his bio, in his service, and 399 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 7: and I just I just don't feel like that's enough anymore. 400 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,479 Speaker 7: You know, if he really wants to be a new voice, 401 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 7: then he you know, I want him to talk about 402 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 7: his record and distinguish it from Markis and how is 403 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 7: how is he going to be better? Not just say 404 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 7: I mean strategically, probably a wiser idea to just keep 405 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 7: hammering on the you know, Marky's eighty, That would that 406 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 7: probably will work. 407 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, let me ask you this. Okay, I know 408 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 2: and you know you and I are friends, but you 409 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 2: and I kind of see the world a little differently 410 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 2: in most on a lot of issues. But one issue 411 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 2: that maybe you would agree with me on is that 412 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 2: this administration, the Trump administration, which I know a lot 413 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: of people are upset with. There's a lot of younger 414 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 2: people in positions of leadership within this administration. Now again, 415 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 2: you can you can criticize all of them. But you 416 00:23:55,560 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 2: have the Homeland Security director and Christy Nome, a young woman. Uh. 417 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 2: You have Henkseeth, the Secretary of War formerly Secretary of Defense, 418 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 2: a young guy Princeton, Harvard. You know, some pretty good 419 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 2: combat veteran there. There's a bunch of young people in 420 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 2: the Republican Party which energized the Republican Party. The Democrats. 421 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 2: How do you feel about Chuck Schumer? Is he the 422 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 2: guy that that should be leaving? 423 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 7: I mean there's still there. Most people are guys on 424 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 7: both sides. 425 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 2: Well, but what you said, we have we have. We 426 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 2: have Ed Markey and Elizabeth Warren together. I think they're there. 427 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 2: Their ages are pretty close to one hundred and fifty 428 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 2: five hundred and fifty six years of age. They probably 429 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 2: as a tandem are the two oldest members that that 430 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 2: represents any state in America possibly, you know. And and 431 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 2: the Democrats. Look, you know that I have my concerns 432 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 2: about Democrats, but you have a lot of young Democrats 433 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 2: in the state who who aren't who aren't getting any oxygen. 434 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 2: Lori Trehan, I love Lori Trehan. 435 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 7: If she's running, I might vote for her. 436 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 2: Well, that's why why do you think I mentioned her. Okay, 437 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 2: you have the Richie Nils and the and the Jim 438 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 2: mcgoverns of the world who represented who represent I think 439 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: the Democratic Party of twenty years ago. But there's there's 440 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 2: an Auchincloss is a good example of someone, you know, 441 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 2: combat a veteran. I'm not sure if he's a combat veteran, 442 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 2: he's a he's a veteran Moulton. 443 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 6: Uh. 444 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 2: This kind of contemporary sparking class might actually be a 445 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 2: little younger, but like anything else, at some point a 446 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 2: party Massachusetts has some really good young Democrats. You have 447 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 2: a political bench here in Massachusetts that the Republicans would love, 448 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 2: and yet we bring people in. The Democratic Party allows 449 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 2: Warrant to in from Oklahoma. Presley comes in from Chicago, 450 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 2: Captain Clark, which you're. 451 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 7: Doing your thing, You're doing your towny thing, which is 452 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 7: somebody else to you know, have been born and raised here. 453 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 2: And no, no, no, I'm not at all. There are 454 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 2: people like Brownsburger who are very liberal. They're almost dying 455 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 2: on the vine in the Senate. It's what I'm saying 456 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 2: is you have this progression and normally all of a sudden, 457 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 2: Massachusetts probably is one of the most democratic states in 458 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 2: the Union. I think you'd agree with me on that, right, Okay, 459 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 2: And yet people end up wilting on the Democratic bench 460 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 2: here in Massachusetts because you have people coming in and 461 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 2: very quickly taking the most significant seat. Seth Moulton now 462 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 2: basically is trying to say, hey, look, I'm a young guy, 463 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 2: I'm a Democrat, I got a family, I'm a good candidate, 464 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: I'm writing most of the issues here. I am, and 465 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 2: someone like yourself, Susan, who's a young Democrat as well, 466 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 2: You're kind of saying, I'm going to stick with the 467 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 2: eighty year old guy. I think it's interesting. I think 468 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 2: there's a lot of people like you. 469 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 8: Well, but I'm not sticking with him because you know, 470 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,959 Speaker 8: I just again, I just need best to step up 471 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 8: and say and say more for himself on his own beal. 472 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. Age is a pretty well pretty 473 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 2: important factor. I mean, look at UH, he mentions in 474 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 2: his UH in his presentation today, you know Ruth Bader 475 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 2: Ginsburg stayed on the US Supreme Court maybe a little 476 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 2: too long. 477 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 8: UH. 478 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 2: That allowed the Democrats UH to in effect lose a 479 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 2: seat in the US Supreme Court. He referenced that in his. 480 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 7: UH yeah, I'm not a big fan of people who 481 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 7: do that, so that's another strike against him. 482 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 2: Well then that what what the Democrat you do is 483 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 2: stay in their office and never leave. 484 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 7: And no, no, like you say, we have a good bench. 485 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 7: It's just I don't think for me one, I vote 486 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 7: for LORI I vote for Jake. There was a time 487 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 7: when I would have supported Aana in a primary. Now 488 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 7: I'm thinking I probably wouldn't. But there's other people in 489 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 7: the States. 490 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 2: If Iana Pressley got in, she would not attract your vote. 491 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 2: If if Laurie Trahan get in, she would attract your vote. 492 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 2: What's the difference did both two young female members of cars. 493 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 7: Honestly, Iana has gone a little bit too far left 494 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 7: for me. 495 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, Susan, I love your calls. You know that 496 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 2: I got to run here. I'm so glad you called back. 497 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: Call more often. 498 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 7: Okay, I'll be curious to hear other opinions. 499 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 2: Absolutely, That's what I'm doing tonight. I'm just trying to 500 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 2: have fun with people. Okay. Thanks as Alwy, Susan, love 501 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 2: your calls. Thanks for being such a loyal nightside listener. Thanks, 502 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 2: thanks very much. Okay, Thanks Susan. Hey, good night. We'll 503 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 2: take a quick break. Coming right back here on night Side. 504 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 2: We got another Susan coming up. On the other side, 505 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 2: I got Paul and west Roxbury, Susan and Milton, Paul 506 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 2: and Westford. Susan's and Paul's a wild here one line 507 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 2: at six one seven two thirty one line and six 508 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 2: one seven, nine one ten thirty. I'm just having fun 509 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 2: with this. All of a sudden we lost someone was coming. 510 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,719 Speaker 2: We lost two people are dropping off like flyers. Susan. 511 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 2: You stay right there, folks, Join the conversation. I gotta 512 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 2: give people a chance to express themselves. If you if 513 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 2: you want to be on for thirty seconds, this is 514 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 2: probably not the show to call, okay, particularly if you're 515 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 2: someone like Susan from Cambridge's a really good caller. Join 516 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 2: the conversation, Marki and Moulton, you tell me. Coming back 517 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 2: on Nightside, It's. 518 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 4: Night Side with Dan Ray. 519 00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: Hey, damn Donny Bezy Boston's news radio. You're on night 520 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: Side with Dan Ray on WBZY Boston's news radio. 521 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 2: Doc We Go, Let me Go, Susan. Thanks for holding on. 522 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 2: Your patience has been rewarded. Welcome Susan. How are you? 523 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 9: Oh great? Hi? Dan, how are you. 524 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 2: I'm doing great, little perplexed why people hold for five 525 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,959 Speaker 2: or six minutes and then they drop off. Thank you 526 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 2: for staying with us here. I want to give people 527 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 2: a chance to express themselves. Go right ahead. 528 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 9: I actually was just string across word. I'm not a cross. 529 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 9: I actually do a cross to puzzle. I'm actually doing 530 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 9: a puzzle puzzle while I was waiting on hold. So 531 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 9: the thing is that I probably am not as well 532 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 9: versed as you would want me to be. I used 533 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 9: to be, but I've I'm independent, but I lean to 534 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 9: the left, and I am I've just been really disappointed 535 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 9: in both parties and even local statewide, So I've not 536 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 9: I'm not as well versed as I used to be 537 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 9: because I I've been really turned off. But my main point, 538 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 9: I guess probably disagreeing with the other Susan, what I 539 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 9: wanted to call about is I don't think anybody eighty 540 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 9: years old should be running for any kind of a seats. 541 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 9: I think the cutoff age should be, and you probably 542 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 9: can disagree with me, is sixty five. I don't think. 543 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 2: Anybody Look you have an opinion, well you know I 544 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 2: am not going to disagree with any opinion. I want 545 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 2: to hear what people have to think. If you tell 546 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 2: me that you think the moon is made of green 547 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 2: cheese or blue cheese, I will tell you I think 548 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 2: you're wrong. But no, this is what this is about 549 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 2: because if age is a factor here, you there'll be 550 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 2: a lot of people who will voted this race and 551 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 2: they will come down for whatever different reasons. What do 552 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 2: you think of Ed Markey would be the first question. 553 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 9: I'm disappointed in Ed Markey because and I'm disappointed, and 554 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 9: I'm also and I'm surprised that I would say this 555 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 9: in Elizabeth Warren because I'm almost seventy and I'm a nurse, 556 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 9: but I'm not doing like, for instance, staff nursing. I 557 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 9: know those days are over for me. I'm doing research. 558 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 9: So the job I had want to bring this up. 559 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 9: I even Milton, I could walk to work on this 560 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 9: every other weekend. I did nurse case management at at 561 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 9: Carnee Hospital that I grew up at. Milton was a 562 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 9: wonderful hospital and when I worked here in the eighties, 563 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 9: it was a good hospital. When I worked there in 564 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 9: twenty twenty one, it was a disaster. I stayed there 565 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 9: for three years and I kept hearing Markey and Warren a. 566 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 9: The hospital is not going to close. And I'm saying 567 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 9: to myself, have you been in here? Have you seen 568 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 9: the place? And then and then and everything's going to 569 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 9: We're going to get Dolatry who used to be a cardiologist, 570 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 9: a cardiac surgeon. By the way, he's going to go 571 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 9: to jail. Okay, So none of those things happened. 572 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 2: And when I brought by the way just to cover ourselves, 573 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 2: he hasn't been convicted of anything yet. So that's that again, 574 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 2: is your opinion? So just still. 575 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 9: No, no, I asked, I asked somebody, and I asked that. 576 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 9: I asked somebody an important position, and they said, no, 577 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 9: nothing's going to happened to him. At this point, I 578 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,479 Speaker 9: guess it's in the Senate and under a Trump nothing's 579 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 9: going to happen. But it brings me back to the 580 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 9: point where that's when I got really turned off by 581 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 9: every This is the deep days of tip on nail, 582 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,239 Speaker 9: you know, Ted Kennedy. It's not those days if no 583 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 9: one is doing anything. But that kind of gets me 584 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 9: off the subject. My main point in calling is if 585 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 9: you're eighty years old, you're too old to be you 586 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 9: can do other things. You can teach, you can do 587 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 9: other things. I'm not saying throwing the towel, but you're 588 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 9: too old again, I need to cut off age to run. 589 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 2: By the way on Carnee Hospital. I don't know this 590 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,399 Speaker 2: for a fact, So this is my opinion. I will 591 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 2: bet you Ed Markey at least visited Carnee Hospital. He 592 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 2: does have a presence. I don't know that Elizabeth Warren 593 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 2: could find Carnee Hospital with a rhoda. 594 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 9: Yes, okay, I don't know if Marky I may. I mean, 595 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 9: you know, he may have come for a photo off 596 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 9: one of the day. Again, I worked every other weekend. 597 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 2: Obviously, neither one of them exercised there. It wasn't saved. 598 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:44,240 Speaker 2: You're right, I mean. 599 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 9: The whole start, the whole Stuart debacle, the whole say. 600 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 2: That, and it occurred on their watch. And that's something 601 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 2: that that Molten should be should be talking about if 602 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 2: he's smart. 603 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 9: So we'll say yeah, yeah, so I would, I would, 604 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 9: and Selene I have to get more involved in here. 605 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 2: Here's what I would ask of you, Susan. I'm running 606 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 2: out of time, but here's what we're going to talk 607 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 2: about this periodically in the next few months. I would 608 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 2: like you to call periodically and tell me how you 609 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,399 Speaker 2: which way you're going, because you know what you are. 610 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 2: You're going to be a weather vane voter. Whoever you 611 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 2: vote for in the end will win this race because 612 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 2: you're that voter doesn't have your mind. You know, the 613 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 2: Marquis Partisans, the Molten Partisans, doesn't matter. They'll vote for 614 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 2: their guy. 615 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 6: Uh. 616 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 2: And there are no gals in the race, so I 617 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 2: can say their guy okay, but you will be the 618 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 2: deciding voter. Whoever you vote for in this Democratic primary 619 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 2: will win that nomination. Susan, A lucky call that. Thank 620 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 2: you so much for being a loyal listener tonight's side. 621 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 2: Talk to you soon. 622 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 9: I am always like to since you Jan, thank you. 623 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 2: Talk soon, Okay, good night. When we come back, I 624 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 2: would like to continue to talk about this, but that 625 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 2: will be up to you. If you want to fill 626 00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 2: up these lines, we can talk about it. You want 627 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,479 Speaker 2: to talk some part takes six one, seven, two, five, 628 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven, nine, three one ten thirty. 629 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,879 Speaker 2: If not, maybe we'll ask you your favorite color. Coming 630 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 2: back on that side,