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Speaker 2: Well, it's pure terror. I mean, nine people were shot,

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Speaker 1: Frenikah Cobb, the twenty four year old that was her reign,

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Speaker 2: Somebody can shoot nine people and be out tomorrow. Right,

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Speaker 2: This is an elected mayor, I mean elected judge, elected mayor,

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Speaker 1: Now, I spent decades in the system, and it was

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Speaker 2: Now, how do you so crazy? What's so crazy about

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Speaker 2: Hey man, I get the best I could do. That's

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Speaker 1: It's unacceptable. It's unacceptable. Well, who claims it is exempt?

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Speaker 1: You brought up one or two great points. One I

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Speaker 1: a small number of people causing disproportion to crime. Let's

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Speaker 1: And so if black lives matter, why don't black lives

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Speaker 2: I can't explain b By here. But look, Willie, we've

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Speaker 2: This is not tangential. And can say my sat is

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Speaker 1: That's Judge, Judge Monday. Now, lastly, about thirty seconds you reference,

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Speaker 1: Governor Gavin Newsom of California goes to a black audience

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Speaker 2: So no Republican, there's no Republican who can get away

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Speaker 2: I want to remind everybody having an ID is not racist.

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Speaker 2: You've got to highlight him so the rest of the

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Speaker 1: Far up, Chris, I just keep it going. I'm willing

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Speaker 1: to fight for this city. Christopher Smitherman, we gotta go.

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Speaker 1: But once again, God bless you, God bless your family.

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