Speaker 1: Bill cunning in the Great America and welcome this glorious
Speaker 1: cold but getting better Wednesday afternoon in the tri State.
Speaker 1: And of course tonight's tonight watching all day morning talk shows,
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens the CNNs of the world of
Speaker 1: just begging the two or three Republicans four or five
Speaker 1: don't vote for the spending package and then try to
Speaker 1: send them back to the Senate for more chaos and confusion.
Speaker 1: That's what they're banking on. Joining you and I now
Speaker 1: is the great Representative Warren Davidson of Ohio eight soon
Speaker 1: to become Ohio one, I think, but I'm not sure
Speaker 1: about that either. And once again, Warren Davidson, Welcome to
Speaker 1: the Bill Cunningham Show this Wednesday afternoon. So as we
Speaker 1: sit here about six or seven hours from the vote,
Speaker 1: supposedly about seven pm to night, you've had the head counts.
Speaker 1: You're looking around, CNN is saying there'll be numerous Republicans
Speaker 1: from districts that grow a lot of hemp or sell
Speaker 1: these drinks and fused with CBD aren't going to vote
Speaker 1: for this thing until that's taken out. Every one of
Speaker 1: those businesses have one year to wrap up their business,
Speaker 1: et cetera. So, as we said here about seven hours
Speaker 1: before seven pm, how are we looking for a positive vote?
Speaker 2: CNN is hoping no.
Speaker 3: What do you say, Well, look, I think we'll have
Speaker 3: the votes in the House, and I think Republicans are
Speaker 3: going to get behind it. I think maybe even a
Speaker 3: handful of Democrats. Jared Golden from Maine was the only
Speaker 3: Democrat that voted for it back in September when we
Speaker 3: voted on the Queen tr in the House. And you're
Speaker 3: referencing the AG Bill, and look, the reality is lobbyist
Speaker 3: from marijuana out maneuvered lobbyists from the hemp industry. And
Speaker 3: the honest thing is to just regulate the TCHD as
Speaker 3: the THC because when hemp was deregulated, it was because
Speaker 3: there wasn't THHD in it. Well, there is a little bit.
Speaker 3: So if you concentrate it and extract it and turn
Speaker 3: it into oil, you can sell it into the vape industry,
Speaker 3: you can sell it into energy, drink industry and other things.
Speaker 3: And they have been and so hopefully this will get fixed.
Speaker 3: I mean, this should have been a clean fight in
Speaker 3: the ag Approach Bill, but it's kind of jammed in.
Speaker 3: That's not uncommon in appropriations bills, and it really is
Speaker 3: a part of ag approach. And here's another one that
Speaker 3: was in there, Senator Ted Cruz buried in a provision
Speaker 3: that lets senators sue if the government spies on them. Uh.
Speaker 3: And the reality is the government shouldn't be fined on
Speaker 3: any America a little, you know, and there shouldn't just
Speaker 3: be a special carve out for senators. So it's a
Speaker 3: poisoned till by Ted Cruz in my mind, in the
Speaker 3: Legislative Approbes Bill. So for that reason, you know, you
Speaker 3: could you could say, well, look, I'm opposed to this provision,
Speaker 3: but the idea that you're going to take down the
Speaker 3: whole package and cause the government to continue to be
Speaker 3: shut down. That was the whole point of the cr
Speaker 3: in the first place, is let's have the appropriations fight.
Speaker 3: And so I think there's a lot of appetite to
Speaker 3: just get on with appropriations.
Speaker 1: Warren Davidson, So you're saying this first time I heard this.
Speaker 1: I'm not much in the world but marijuana, believe it
Speaker 1: or not. But nonetheless, so you got the marijuana growers
Speaker 1: and users fighting those with hamp CBD and THC.
Speaker 2: Do I have that right.
Speaker 1: So those two industries are fighting for billions of dollars
Speaker 1: and they set it bill nodded toward the marijuana and
Speaker 1: not toward the hemp.
Speaker 2: Is that correct, That's right.
Speaker 3: That's basically the feud and the turf war, and the
Speaker 3: path to peace is to just treat THHC as THCHC.
Speaker 3: Whether it comes from marijuana or hemp or some lab somewhere,
Speaker 3: it's an intoxicating substance. It's mind altering and in that sense,
Speaker 3: you know, it does different things than alcohol, but similar
Speaker 3: to alcohol. And so there's a way to do this,
Speaker 3: and frankly, maybe the smart way is to let states
Speaker 3: regulate a lot of this the same way that they
Speaker 3: regulate alcohol and get the federal government out of treating
Speaker 3: this as a Class one substance and just, you know,
Speaker 3: let states do it because they have. Overwhelmingly states around
Speaker 3: the country are legalizing marijuana. I don't think it's been
Speaker 3: a success to have legalized it. I don't think it's
Speaker 3: smart to use it, but lots of people do. And
Speaker 3: we've had this own sort of loophole in Ohio because
Speaker 3: of the way they lead marijuana. But then HIMP is
Speaker 3: kind of backdoor doing you know, no regulation.
Speaker 1: All right, So do you know what the Trump position
Speaker 1: is on taking marijuana from Schedule one to Schedule three?
Speaker 1: I know the Trump star doesn't like drinking done like
Speaker 1: alcohol done like marijuana. What is the status of him
Speaker 1: taking it from a Schedule one to a Schedule three?
Speaker 2: Is that going to happen?
Speaker 3: Well, it's hard to do with just executive action, and
Speaker 3: the legislative votes are hard to get. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 3: we've had a hard time as Republicans getting people there.
Speaker 3: And you know, I've been a longtime co sponsor of
Speaker 3: legislation that would you know, you know, you're d banking
Speaker 3: people just because you know they work in certain industries
Speaker 3: and they're lawfully employed. They can't get a mortgage because
Speaker 3: the source of their income is tied to this, and
Speaker 3: you should let the regulation be the regulation about it.
Speaker 3: States have overwhelmingly done that. The federal government has done
Speaker 3: nothing about it. So it's really long overdue to just
Speaker 3: treated as a Schedule three item. And you know, the
Speaker 3: States Act as a bill that I'm a co sponsor
Speaker 3: of that would let states regulate it more effect it.
Speaker 3: It's clear that the federal government has been completely dysfunctional
Speaker 3: on this subject.
Speaker 1: I like federalism. Alabama's different than California, Ohio is different
Speaker 1: than Massachusetts. One not much like an alcohol Different states
Speaker 1: have different rules and alcohol because the citizens and those
Speaker 1: states elect representatives to represent their values. What's wrong with
Speaker 1: letting each state determine for itself what to do with marijuana,
Speaker 1: what to do with hamp what to do with alcohol,
Speaker 1: which is the circumstance.
Speaker 2: What's wrong with that and get the Feds out of it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's in a long time position. And
Speaker 3: you look the war on drugs at some level. We
Speaker 3: want to stop the sentinel at the border. We want
Speaker 3: to stop the heroin and cocaine and all those things.
Speaker 3: Those are things that that are you know, Schedule one
Speaker 3: drugs and have to change everything to change one thing.
Speaker 3: And it's clear that there's momentum. I mean, nearly all
Speaker 3: fifty states forty plus states, including Ohio, have legalized some
Speaker 3: version of marijuana, including recreational marijuana, medicine, medicinal marijuana. But
Speaker 3: then they've got different regulations on it, and the federal
Speaker 3: government is still treating it as if you know, marijuana
Speaker 3: is heroin, and the public isn't treating it that way,
Speaker 3: and the right place to have this fight is in
Speaker 3: the ag Approach Bill or in standalone legislation, not leveraging
Speaker 3: a government shutdown to do it. And so, you know,
Speaker 3: I think you're going to get the votes. I think
Speaker 3: it's be hard for me to see some of my
Speaker 3: colleagues do it, but nevertheless they got voting cards too.
Speaker 3: We'll see at seven all right.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Secondly, sometime this afternoon, King Jeffries is saying he's going
Speaker 1: to put try to put in the in the Rules
Speaker 1: Committee provisions about saving Obamacare, to spend more taxpayers money
Speaker 1: on Obamacare, which is miserably failed. I had assume that
Speaker 1: that's not going to be the case. But can you
Speaker 1: tell the American people why Congressman Warren Davidson is not
Speaker 1: going to give special reference to those with Obamacare premium
Speaker 1: support with the moneys going to the insurance companies not
Speaker 1: to the users of the product, and then the insurance
Speaker 1: companies are making billions and billions and billions of dollars
Speaker 1: and then jacking up the premiums for the users of
Speaker 1: the product. Anyway, can you give me a capsule as
Speaker 1: to why you do not want to put into this
Speaker 1: bill some requirement of taxpayer assistance for a government program
Speaker 1: that's failed miserably.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Democrats have been trying to get this
Speaker 3: done for a while, and Republicans have never voted to
Speaker 3: support Obamacare, including these COVID era subsidies. So these are
Speaker 3: COVID subsidies that when there was a pandemic going on,
Speaker 3: they said, well, look let's send a straight pipe of
Speaker 3: money to the insurance companies, so these massive increases and
Speaker 3: costs that are attributable to the pandemic aren't passed on
Speaker 3: to consumers in the insurance sector. That was the justification,
Speaker 3: and Democrats passed that with all Democrat votes, no Republicans,
Speaker 3: and Democrats set them to expire because I think they
Speaker 3: assumed that the pandemic would eventually be over, and the
Speaker 3: pandemic is in fact over, So there's been a very
Speaker 3: long runway on this. But the insurance companies didn't really
Speaker 3: hold down premiums, they didn't improve their performance in any respect.
Speaker 3: And the idea that you're going to straight pipe this
Speaker 3: money to the insurance companies is crazy. So I hope
Speaker 3: that none of my colleagues joined this crazy idea to
Speaker 3: bail out a failing program. With Obamacare. I hope what
Speaker 3: the speaker does is he creates either a Healthcare Committee
Speaker 3: or select me on Healthcare to highlight all the solutions,
Speaker 3: not just this one that the Democrats or Democratic socialists
Speaker 3: seem to favor, because it's designed. The only way that
Speaker 3: Obamacare has been successful is designed to keep demanding more
Speaker 3: and more federal money till they reach a tipping point
Speaker 3: and say, well, let's just do single payer. That's the
Speaker 3: way the program was designed. It was designed to fail,
Speaker 3: it is now failing, and the idea that you're going
Speaker 3: to take the bait and help prop it up to
Speaker 3: me would be a huge mistake for anyone to join in.
Speaker 2: So kind of the goal of Mom, Dami, etc.
Speaker 1: Is have a single pair system of the whole country,
Speaker 1: put everybody under Medicare or medicaid. Had the government supply
Speaker 1: so called free medical care to everyone and no one
Speaker 1: else's expensive course, and keep raising taxes to pay for
Speaker 1: these programs. Instead of worried about cost analysis and worry
Speaker 1: about I have to care about what my medical bills are.
Speaker 1: Instead of having a market based system, they want a
Speaker 1: system of creeping socialism and Marxism in which the government
Speaker 1: determines who pays for your cell phone, who pays for
Speaker 1: your house, who pays for your food, who pays for
Speaker 1: your medical insurance. We're all work for the government in
Speaker 1: one form or another. Then within twenty or thirty years,
Speaker 1: we'll look like Cuba or Venezuela.
Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, I mean, and you look. I mean there's
Speaker 3: a good graph going around showing the economy in Venezuela
Speaker 3: tanking in the economy and Poland soaring. And it's like,
Speaker 3: if only there was a way to test these ideas
Speaker 3: and see which ones work. And even if you look
Speaker 3: at New York City, the people in New York City
Speaker 3: should run New York City, not me or the people
Speaker 3: of Ohio. But Rudy Giuliani already showed how to clean
Speaker 3: up New York City and make it a vibrant city.
Speaker 3: And now they said, no, no, let's not go back
Speaker 3: to that. Let's try Mundami the kami and you do
Speaker 3: that to the world's biggest financial capital in New York City,
Speaker 3: and I think the capital and people are just going
Speaker 3: to flood out of New York City. I think this
Speaker 3: is a bad decision. But hey, they voted, and that's
Speaker 3: who they wanted.
Speaker 1: Warren Davidson. The big decision is cost a living. The statistics,
Speaker 1: the facts are different than perception. Perception can become reality.
Speaker 1: In reality, inflation is about three percent. In reality, gasoline
Speaker 1: prices are down. In reality compared to a year ago,
Speaker 1: grocery prices are down, but the perception is because of
Speaker 1: the media ALSHA prices are skyrocketing. Should Republicans be concerned
Speaker 1: with the reality of inflation or the perception of the
Speaker 1: media which tells us that people can't afford to live?
Speaker 1: But in reality, inflation is better now than it was
Speaker 1: under Biden, but the media doesn't report that. So, and
Speaker 1: when you're walking in the corridors of power in Washington
Speaker 1: in the Capitol this afternoon, are you thinking in your
Speaker 1: mind about your congressional district which are largely middle class
Speaker 1: Americans and lower middle class Americans and the perception everything's
Speaker 1: going through the roof and the reality is costed going up.
Speaker 1: Should there be some Republican committee concerned about inflation?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Look, I think the economy is always important. It's
Speaker 3: always a massive factor in quality of life for people,
Speaker 3: and housing is one of the biggest things you know
Speaker 3: when you have inflation, Asset price inflation is the biggest
Speaker 3: thing you've seen that the stock market's great, and if
Speaker 3: you already own a home, the housing prices are great.
Speaker 3: But for people without those assets, which is frankly most Americans,
Speaker 3: they're getting crushed by inflation. And so you've got to
Speaker 3: have better answers for this. And you know the answer
Speaker 3: isn't more subsidies. What's causing the inflation is massive fiscal depth.
Speaker 3: It's the Congress is spending far more money than we're
Speaker 3: bringing in. So if you think about it as a
Speaker 3: as a glass, if you take five liters of water
Speaker 3: out of a glass and put seven liters in, well,
Speaker 3: you clearly raise the level. We're doing that to the
Speaker 3: tune at trillions of dollars every year, so we're essentially
Speaker 3: pouring two trillion dollars worth of extra government money into
Speaker 3: the economy every year. Of course, you're going to have inflation,
Speaker 3: and you're still dealing with the consequences of trillions and
Speaker 3: trillions of dollars going in during COVID, and the justification
Speaker 3: was COVID, but the reality is you massively caused this consequence.
Speaker 3: And so you do that, you can unravel it in
Speaker 3: nine or ten months and everything's all fine, again, well,
Speaker 3: it's going to take a longer effort. But I think look,
Speaker 3: the Trump administration is going in the right direction, and
Speaker 3: the burden for Congress is to join that effort and
Speaker 3: hopefully accelerate it.
Speaker 2: And there's no movement. In fact, you're saying, spend more money.
Speaker 1: When a government program fails, like Obamacare, support it, spend
Speaker 1: more money. There's no effort by Democrats or Republicans to say, Okay,
Speaker 1: we bring in five trillion dollars every year, we're gonna
Speaker 1: spend five trillion dollars. When you spend an additional two
Speaker 1: trillion dollars, that means there's two trillion more dollars chasing
Speaker 1: limited products, which means the price is going to go up.
Speaker 2: That's inflation.
Speaker 1: I see no hope of the federal government borrowing less
Speaker 1: than two trillion dollars, which is about six billion dollars
Speaker 1: every day of new money. As far as the eye
Speaker 1: can see. I don't see the Trump budget saying Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna spend exactly what we bring in. The Trump
Speaker 1: budget means we're going to spend two trillion dollars more
Speaker 1: every year as far as the I can see, which
Speaker 1: is a permanent weight on the shoulders of Americans every day.
Speaker 1: When you have more dollars chasing fewer products, prices will
Speaker 1: go up.
Speaker 2: Am I right about that?
Speaker 3: You one hundred percent? And look, the big thing is
Speaker 3: if you look at the things that are substant their
Speaker 3: inflation far outpaces everything else. So education's expensive, well, let's
Speaker 3: subsidize it. Well, the inflation rate for education's massive compared
Speaker 3: to the rest of the market. Let's subsidize housing. Well, okay,
Speaker 3: the inflation rate's massive compared to the rest of the market.
Speaker 3: Let's subsidize healthcare. The biggest worst inflation is healthcare because
Speaker 3: it's the most subsidized thing. And so you know the
Speaker 3: idea that people can't get this cause and effect right,
Speaker 3: and they say, well, well, more redistribution, more spending. The
Speaker 3: redistribution and subsidies hide the crime of this tax on
Speaker 3: people that comes from overspending. When you spend more money,
Speaker 3: it causes the inflation. And if you just do more
Speaker 3: redistribution and more subsidies, it helps the people doing this
Speaker 3: damage to everyday Americans get away with the crime. And
Speaker 3: I think, look, we've got to turn this massive excess
Speaker 3: spending off, and gosh, we're at a point where even
Speaker 3: republic had a hard time defunding MPR. Right, how yeah,
Speaker 3: how low the bar is. We barely got the votes
Speaker 3: to defund in PR, and we have much bigger structural problems.
Speaker 3: But the right way to do that is through the
Speaker 3: appropriations path, not you know, with the leverage of a
Speaker 3: government shutdown.
Speaker 2: Warren Davidson.
Speaker 1: Long term, I'm not optimistic because if these things don't
Speaker 1: happen with Republicans controlling the House, Senate, the presidency, what's
Speaker 1: going to happen in a year or three years or
Speaker 1: five years when once again came Jeffries, maybe Governor Pritzer,
Speaker 1: And I don't know, I picked somebody in the Senate,
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren, when they're in charge of governmental spending, Katie
Speaker 1: bar the door. If Republicans can't constrain this, I have
Speaker 1: no hope for Democrats. So why can't you Republicans constrain spending?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is the question, right, and the default for
Speaker 3: both parties has been you know, the Democrats haven't express
Speaker 3: train to the crash light and Republicans just have a
Speaker 3: regular train to the crash slight. They're headed the same place.
Speaker 3: And the real question is is do you take this
Speaker 3: quote principal position, I'm voting for nothing unless it already
Speaker 3: you know, balances and does the right things. Or do
Speaker 3: you say, I'm willing to vote for things that help
Speaker 3: us move in the right direction. And that's the position
Speaker 3: I've taken, is you know, I'm willing to vote for
Speaker 3: some things but not everything. And some people come and say, well,
Speaker 3: unless it goes to the right direction, right out of
Speaker 3: the gate, I'm voting no on everything. But the reality
Speaker 3: is a lot of people, I tell people Republican politics
Speaker 3: is a little too much like Nascar. People get in
Speaker 3: the race and they just start turning left. So that's
Speaker 3: part of the success of this navigating the cr shutdown
Speaker 3: is Speaker Johnson took everybody out of town. They keep
Speaker 3: the leverage on the Senate, keep pressure on the Senate,
Speaker 3: because otherwise I think the surrender caucus in the House
Speaker 3: would form and the Moderates would cut a deal with
Speaker 3: the Democrats and we would just keep turn left. So
Speaker 3: it came at a big price, but Speaker Johnson led
Speaker 3: a fight here and kept the burden where it belonged,
Speaker 3: which is on the Senate.
Speaker 1: And if any change happens tonight at seven o'clock or
Speaker 1: eight o'clock. Then it's going to go back to the Senate.
Speaker 1: Going back to the Senate is a non starter, but
Speaker 1: the Democrats would get what they want, which is total chaos.
Speaker 1: If this thing done past tonight, the markets are going
Speaker 1: to crash, the planes aren't gonna fly, the hungry won't
Speaker 1: be fed, the cops are going to walk off their
Speaker 1: job in federal workforce. The military won't be paid, the
Speaker 1: FBI won't be paid. Chaos, confusion constantly, which is what
Speaker 1: Greg Lansman won. He wants not to feed the hungry,
Speaker 1: he wants the cops not to be paid. He wants
Speaker 1: complete confusion to throw crap on the Republicans politically. Warren Davidson,
Speaker 1: we got to run. We left to decide the issue
Speaker 1: of illegal alien truck drivers killing Americans. That's another thing
Speaker 1: we'll deal with another day because they're out there on
Speaker 1: the roads. But Warren Davidson, your guest is tonight it
Speaker 1: will pass. We'll see what happens. I'll be monitoring things
Speaker 1: as you will. Once again, thanks for coming on the Bill,
Speaker 1: Cunningham shure. We're reporting back to your constituents what's happening
Speaker 1: in the nation Capital Aarren Davidson.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, always an honor. God bless you
Speaker 3: and all your listeners.
Speaker 2: And God bless America. Let's continue with more.
Speaker 1: If it can't be done, now, restrain a federal spending
Speaker 1: it can't be done.
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