1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Always look forward to this time of the week because 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: it's time to get some aviation information from iHeartMedia aviation 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: expert Jay ratleft Jay Ratlift, Welcome back and a very 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: happy New year, and my friend, I'm glad we're continuing 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: this segment because I always look forward to it. 6 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, first chance I've had to issue. A happy new 7 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: year and a lot to be thankful for us always. Yeah. 8 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. I got through some trials and tribulations in my life, 9 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: and I always go out and search of something that's 10 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: really positive to sort of negate the blue that might 11 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: overcome my mood. 12 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 2: I was taught a long time ago, if you're feeling 13 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 2: really bad about yourself, just go out and try to 14 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 2: help somebody else, and it it tends to lift your 15 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: spirits a bit. 16 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: Yes, it does, no question about it. 17 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:41,639 Speaker 2: I had them. 18 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: I won't go back over it. But I had a 19 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: beautiful moment yesterday at listener lunch. Actually brought a tear 20 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: to my eye. So that was my bright spoty Oh. 21 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: The woman added me. She added me to the church's 22 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: prayer list and the pamphlet for service because she heard 23 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: me mention that I had to go back into my 24 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: cancer treatment and I'm starting that next week because my 25 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: notes started growing again, and so she thought that was 26 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: the kindest gesture. 27 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: Well, you know, there's a lot of people praying for you, 28 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: not only when that's going on, but other times as well. 29 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: So I'd see right there. You know, it sucks, I 30 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: gotta go get chemogain. But you know what, I got 31 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: people out there thinking about me and doing beautiful things 32 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: like that. So I feel positive overall about that new 33 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,839 Speaker 1: calendar year and a new curveball throwing at you instead 34 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: of the list that you provided with me, which we 35 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: will get. 36 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 2: Oh, you mean the nineteen things I threw y. Yeah, 37 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 2: let's talk about something else. 38 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: No, I just thought it was rather unusual. And how 39 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,279 Speaker 1: often does this happen? Hopefully not very often. All eight 40 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: tires burst on landing and this flight coming into Atlanta 41 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: the other day. 42 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's unusual to have. Formally, when a tire blows, 43 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: if the crew comes down and has what we call 44 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: a hard landing, the main attires, which are the main 45 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: landing gear underneath the wing, sometimes you'll see a tire 46 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: or to burst on the landing if it's a hard landing. 47 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know that I can control all 48 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: the brain cells in my head right now. But I 49 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 2: can't recall a single time where every you had all 50 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: these tires, it just boom, went flat. And it suggests 51 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 2: some sort of a maintenance issue more than anything else, 52 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: because you know, to impact all tires at the same 53 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: time you're talking about an aircraft cut carrier landing. You know, boom, 54 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: all the main in the front landing gear landing at 55 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: the same time, landing hard. That's not how we do 56 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: commercial aviation. It's more like a space shuttle comes in, 57 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: you know, the noses up, the main gears hit and 58 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 2: then they rowed slowly down. Yeah. So, but yeah, in 59 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 2: this case, it's going to be interesting to see and 60 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: we don't know for sure, but it's either an issue 61 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: with the crew and I don't think so, or some 62 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: sort of mechanical malfunction. Probably it's a breaking system that 63 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: might have engaged something where there was extreme pressure and 64 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 2: stress put on those tires at one time. All the 65 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 2: good news is locked up for example, Yeah, exactly. So 66 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: we don't know that that's the case, and you know, 67 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: it may have been a combination of factors. It was 68 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 2: not something that created a safety issue, thank thankfully for 69 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 2: that but what ended up taking place was that, Yeah, 70 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: it was inconvenience for the passengers who had a delay 71 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 2: in getting off the airplane, and you know that's always frustrating. 72 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 2: But the good news is you got a story to 73 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: tell and on something that rarely happens in aviation. So yeah, 74 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: that's that's kind of a I don't want to say 75 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: a cool thing because I went on the plane trying 76 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 2: to make a connection, but yeah, it was. It was 77 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 2: definitely unusual. 78 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: Fortunately again, no injuries, a couple of hundred people on 79 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: that plane, but that would just freak me out anyway. 80 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: I don't need any more things to freak me out 81 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: about air travel. We'll continue with I heard media aviation 82 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: expert Jay ratlift maybe have a drunk pilot. We got 83 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: to ask an airlines pilot on the plane when the 84 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: door flew up, apparently now engaging in some litigation. That 85 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: and a whole lot more with Jay Ratliffe stick around 86 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: fifty five KRC. I've been in the cockpit before Jay 87 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: Ratliff has I heard media aviation next, but we are 88 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: blessed to get him every Thursday, beginning at eight thirty 89 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: to close out the show. Pivoting over Jay Ratliffe. Uh, 90 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: the Alaskan Airline pilot. This is the guy who's flying 91 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: the plane where the door just kind of flew off 92 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: at a door. He's suing Boeing. 93 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: What, Yeah, it was it well, initially when this happened, 94 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 2: and it was actually two years ago Monday, January twenty four, 95 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: it's been two years when that seven thirty seven took off, 96 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: they left Portland, they were in the air just a 97 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 2: matter of minutes when that door flew flew off, fell off, 98 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: however you want to put it. Initially Boeing was indicating 99 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 2: alluding to, not outright suggesting, but leaning in the direction 100 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: that perhaps the crew. 101 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 1: Oh to blame, all right, and that's an excumentational damage 102 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: kind of thing. 103 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: So yeah, oh absolutely. So what happened was, it was 104 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 2: later discovered by the All Star team the National Transportation 105 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 2: Safety Board, the crew had nothing to do with it 106 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 2: other than doing an incredible job of you know, when 107 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 2: that decompression took place. We talked about how the explosive 108 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:18,559 Speaker 2: decompression was so severe that the cockpit door flew open 109 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: through the pilots forward. Everything in the cockpit was flying 110 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: immediately all through the air. Pilots are trying to figure 111 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: out what's going on. They thought maybe a bomb had 112 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: gone off. They're trying to do what they can to 113 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 2: make an emergency landing, and I mean they're doing an 114 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 2: A plus plus plus job. And you know, there was 115 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 2: a lot of things that you know, that the crew 116 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 2: was responsible for in a good way. They landed the plane, 117 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 2: minor injuries, no fatalities. And I guess on a lot 118 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 2: of these Brians, you have two years or so from 119 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: the event to file a claim of some kind and 120 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 2: towards again, and apparently that that was approaching and this 121 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 2: is a ten million dollar lawsuit. We'll see where it goes. 122 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 2: Strangely and enough owing who was maybe accusing others. Uh, 123 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 2: they were asked to provide documentation the video in the 124 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 2: training records of who was overseeing the installation of that 125 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: door at the time that it was put in the airplane. 126 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: They lost that right they they couldn't find it anywhere, 127 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 2: so h yeah, exactly. So while there may be blaming 128 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,799 Speaker 2: the pilots, you know, they're they're doing Oliver North shoretting 129 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 2: documents in the back room. But it's you know, just frustrating. 130 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: It's you know, and you know, the movie solely. There 131 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: was an there was kind of a theme throughout the 132 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: movie that there was blame on the crew for not 133 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 2: you know, landing the airplane back at an airport versus 134 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 2: going in the Hudson River. There was some issue with 135 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 2: the insurance company. But that wasn't an airline or an 136 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 2: aircraft manufacturer necessarily, that was blaming a flight crew. That 137 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 2: was more the insurance company that was, you know, responsible 138 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 2: for that. 139 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a coverage dispute, that's that's independent of that. Yeah, 140 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: all right, and exclusions and they're going to assert them 141 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: to us. I used to represent insurance companies, would do that, 142 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: just that kind of thing almost every single day of 143 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: my life. Are right, Well, I thought maybe it was 144 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: like for emotional distress or something, considering well. 145 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: That's being thrown in there as well obviously, because yeah, 146 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: but yeah, we'll see where it goes. And again, that 147 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 2: crew just did an incredible job, in fact, such a 148 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: good job. The way they reacted is something that other 149 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 2: crews can train with the same ways that the Southwest 150 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: Airlines flight over Pennsylvania when that engine decompressed, struck the 151 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 2: side of the aircraft and we had it sadly a fatality. 152 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: That flight crew Tama Joe Schultz, who is the captain 153 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 2: on that one of the Navy's first fighter pilots. She 154 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 2: did a great job. And what that crew did is 155 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 2: also a subject of training. So yeah, most of the time, 156 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 2: these flight crews just do an unbelievable job and it's 157 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: sad when it suggests that they do otherwise. 158 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: Amen to that Air India, I guess got a pilot 159 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: there that. I mean, come on, they don't pilots understand 160 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: the general you can't drink before flying. What happened with 161 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: this I failed to breathalyzer test. 162 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, what took put in And depending on the airline, 163 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: it's either eight or ten or twelve hours a bottle 164 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 2: to throttle, meaning if you know you're on duty at 165 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: X amount of time, you cannot have anything to drink 166 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 2: at all, so many hours before you report to duty. 167 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 2: That's for pilots, mechanics and others. So this incident happened 168 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: last month late and we're just not getting the details. 169 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 2: Where this crew was showing up Vancouver. They were taking 170 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 2: an aircraft to Delhi, and somebody at the airport, one 171 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 2: of the screeners or somebody with the airport operations noticed 172 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 2: one of the pilots behaving like perhaps they were under 173 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 2: the influence of something. We don't say they were drawnk 174 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: because you know, sometimes it could be medication they're reacting 175 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: to or whatever. So they did what they were supposed to. 176 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: They reported it. The police were notified and they pulled 177 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: the pilot off I think it was a captain and 178 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 2: gave him a pre flight alcohol test, which he failed, 179 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 2: so they were moved him from service. India had another 180 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 2: crew come in to take care of it. And when 181 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: you've got four hundred thousand pilots or whatever we've got worldwide, 182 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 2: anytime one of these things makes the news, it really 183 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: goes viral and people think, oh my gosh, you know, 184 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 2: are all these pilots drinking, And seems like women never 185 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 2: drink because it's always a man that gets caught. And 186 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: then I remind people we have probably less than four 187 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 2: percent of the world's population of pilots or women, so 188 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: statistically speaking, there's a better chance we're going to be 189 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 2: talking about a man. But obviously men and women both 190 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 2: have issues with substance, and in this case, it was caught, 191 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 2: as most of these are, by somebody at the airport 192 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 2: who notices something and says something, so great, job to 193 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 2: whoever was responsible for making sure that that was looked into. 194 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 1: Well, it's a good reminder all the pilots out the 195 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: world because these are widely reported. So you know, it's 196 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: just one more thing. Yeah, don't do that. Don't be 197 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: that guy. We'll Spirit. 198 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 2: You risk your whole career for something like that, right, 199 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 2: it makes no sense. 200 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: Now, Well, Spirit Airlines survive the year topic number three 201 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: here on your chart, Will they? 202 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 2: I hope? So? I think they're going to need to merge. 203 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 2: I think they're going to have to merge with Frontier, 204 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 2: or you know, somebody may come along and say, we 205 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: need some additional silver revenue tubes in our fleet. As 206 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: far as aircraft, and you know, spirits there with one 207 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 2: hundred and two or something of these airbus aircraft. Airbus itself, 208 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 2: the manufacturer has about a nine thousand plan back laws. 209 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: So if you're thinking, you know, I could really use 210 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 2: some aircraft, somebody might look in and go at acquiring 211 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 2: Spirit for no other reason than those resources. So you 212 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 2: just don't know. Now they've got an influx of cash 213 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 2: that's going to keep them moving that they're adjusting some 214 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 2: of the things that are eliminating a lot of the 215 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 2: not so profitable routes, which is good. They've reached an 216 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 2: agreement with their employees to for reduce pay and benefits. 217 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: Great job there. They're bringing in premium seats which are 218 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 2: going to allow them to addition create some additional revenue. 219 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: So brand they're checking all the boxes, They're doing all 220 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: the things that they need to do. The question is 221 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: the time on the clock. Are they gonna have enough 222 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 2: cash to keep things moving. Remember, they filed for bankruptcy 223 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 2: twice in the last year year and a half, so 224 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: they've gone through the Chapter eleven process more than once. 225 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 2: And you know what, we'll see where it goes. I 226 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 2: really hope that they survived. Now they don't fly into 227 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 2: Cincinnati at this point. But anytime you have a low 228 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 2: cost carrier, it helps in whatever market that they're in 229 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,119 Speaker 2: to keep the fares down because you love that competition 230 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: between airlines, and anytime there's a merger or one of 231 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 2: these airlines goes out of business, the legacy carriers behind 232 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 2: closed doors are doing a snoopy dance and it gives 233 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 2: them the opportunity to raise fairs in a lot of 234 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 2: markets and make more money. Remember Delta and United last 235 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 2: year making a billion dollars in profit in a single quarter, 236 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. So yeah, they would love to 237 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 2: see that happen. In fact that I think it was 238 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 2: the president of United said the low cost you know model, 239 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 2: it's broken, never really worked. Well, yeah, a lot of 240 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 2: these low cost carriers are like, we'll show you. So 241 00:11:58,240 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 2: that's why I'm always cheering for the little guy. 242 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: As you know CVGS where we fly in and out 243 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 1: of I remember when there weren't any low cost carries. 244 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 1: We were one of the most expensive airports in the country. 245 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to the reality of competition. Let's bring it now 246 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: we're the. 247 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 2: Airport that a lot of people around the country want 248 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 2: to be. I can't tell you the number of times 249 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 2: I've been on a Sacramento in La San Diego, a 250 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: Chicago New York radio station and they say, Jay, we 251 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 2: we've looked into the airport at Cincinnati. My gosh, you 252 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: know there used to be a hub they had. This 253 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: happened and now they're, you know, a mega hub and 254 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 2: cargo and they've got some of the cheapest fairs now 255 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 2: in the country. How did they do it? And it 256 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: comes back to the low cost carriers on the commercial 257 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 2: side of things, and we are the envy of the world. 258 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 2: The Wall Street Journal a couple of years ago did 259 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 2: a great article on the turnaround at CBG, and I'm 260 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 2: sworn to secrecy because there's a lot of names I'd 261 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 2: like to drop here people that are responsible for that 262 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: at the airport, and I'm forbidden to do so. But 263 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 2: they're working NonStop to do a great job. And that's 264 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 2: why I love seeing the community support the local lost carriers. 265 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 2: Or when we get a britsh Airways or a new 266 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 2: international carrier that comes in, there's immediate support there as well. 267 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 2: Delta or American adds more flights, bigger airplanes, there's an 268 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 2: immediate response to that as well. So, man, this market's 269 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 2: just doing a great, great job, and I just wanted 270 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 2: to continue. 271 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: Never thought i'd hear those words. Wasn't that long ago? 272 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: Never would anybody even predict that possibility keeping low. 273 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: Cost carriers came here to die? That was it? In Frontier, 274 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: Well you look it, hats off to them. They led 275 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 2: the way. They had one flight of day to Denver 276 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 2: that they did that for seven years. They came to Cincinnati, 277 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 2: people said, you got to be nuts and then here 278 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 2: comes Allegiant, then here comes Southwest moving the Daton operation 279 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 2: and boom it went from there with so many other carriers, 280 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 2: and yeah, you can go around trip to Florida forro 281 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 2: under one hundred bucks. Can't do that without low cost carriers. 282 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 2: And thank you for that. 283 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: Let's pause, bring j back and he'll tell you why 284 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: you shouldn't wash your hands while on a flight in 285 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: the lavatory eight forty seven right now, if you have 286 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: KARCD talk station fifty five, the if you have kercdtalk 287 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: dation Brian Thomas that I heard media aviation expert Jay 288 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: Ratliff moving through the topics this morning. I think we'll 289 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: have time to get to American airlines doing using artificial 290 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: intelligence for the benefit of its customers. But I got 291 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: to ask you about this recent study that apparently was 292 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: done warning passengers to never wash their hands during a 293 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: flight using the laboratory. Is this like the coffee like, 294 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: don't drink the coffee on the airplane? 295 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 2: Yes, sir, I knew you would be all over that 296 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 2: because you're right. But yeah, this comes from the Center 297 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 2: for Food as Medicine and Longevity. It's a nonprofit organization 298 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 2: and they poured over three years of data and they 299 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: actually assigned airlines a grade. Now, if you are ever 300 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 2: at airplanes when they are working on the water lines 301 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 2: and you see the mechanic pull it and look at it, 302 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 2: you're like, oh my gosh, water coming, I mean, is 303 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: it's crudd It is just Yeah, So when Cherry and 304 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: I are on an airplane, it's no coffee. If there's 305 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 2: ice and it comes in bag dice that comes in, 306 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 2: that's fine, but no, I mean, and yes, as far 307 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 2: as washing your hands, you need to be careful because 308 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 2: this study came out and said, look, if you're flying 309 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 2: Delta airlines, they were given a grade of an A. 310 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 2: Fact they in Frontier the only two airlines that received 311 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 2: and A from their water cleanliness side of things. The 312 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 2: last airlines a B. But then you get down to 313 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 2: American airlines, the Jet Blue, D and D they're they're 314 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 2: not doing well at all there. So they said that 315 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: there's instances of E. Coli bacteria in the water samples. 316 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 2: Two positive tests from E. Coli from Jet Blue. As 317 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 2: if the bathroom isn't a laboratory enough for germs. Now, yeah, 318 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 2: this end and you know they ought to have a 319 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 2: hazmat sticker on the outside the door. I think that 320 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 2: would be the best way to describe. Never let your 321 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 2: kids ever, ever, ever go in there barefoot ever, because 322 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 2: of just how bad that it is. And yeah, now 323 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 2: the water is so it's again. You and I've talked 324 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 2: about the water to be careful and not to do 325 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 2: the coffee and the other types of things. And most 326 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 2: people that fly a lot, and especially those who have 327 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 2: listened to us, recognize that's not the thing to do. 328 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's just another reminder here in apologies for 329 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 2: anybody that's, you know, trying to enjoy their breakfast or 330 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 2: coffee this morning. But look, you didn't get off an airplane, 331 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 2: so you should be happy. 332 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: No, But you know, there's a whole bunch of people 333 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: out there who sort of I think joining the Mile 334 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: High Club might be a good idea. Note you don't 335 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: want to be in there in that festering peatrie dish 336 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: of bacteria, gross. 337 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 2: Panes where they pull out the black light and they 338 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 2: shine and and see everything. Yeah, going there, it's gonna. 339 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: Be the same thing, florid almighty. Yeah, Like well you asked, 340 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: like at Jackson Pollock Painting Joseph's American Airlines using artificial 341 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: intelligence to actually benefit its customers. What's going on with 342 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: this one? 343 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 2: I love this. What they've done is they've Delta, of course, 344 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 2: is using artificial intelligence for pricing fares, which is actually 345 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 2: working against us. Not a big fan of that. So 346 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 2: American Airlines said, no, we're gonna use artificy sh'll intelligent 347 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 2: a little bit different in our flight following and flight 348 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 2: management process where we can actually plug all this in there, 349 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 2: and we're testing it in Dallas. So the flights are 350 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 2: running late, we can use our artificial intelligence software to 351 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 2: tell us how much we can delay a flight going 352 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:20,959 Speaker 2: out of Dallas to accommodate people coming in late. So 353 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 2: they may see that a flight to New York, which 354 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 2: they are normally block, to block whatever time it might 355 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 2: happen to be. Maybe the airflow is not as crowded 356 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 2: as normal, maybe they've got good weather, maybe more of 357 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 2: a direct route. Artificial intelligence so tell them that flight 358 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 2: can lead ten to twelve minutes late and still arrive 359 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 2: on time. Brian. They're using this to try to better 360 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 2: serve their customers, and I cannot I can't wait till 361 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 2: the next time I want on our Dallas affiliate because 362 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 2: I want to want to brag on American they're in Dallas, 363 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 2: because what they're doing is trying this. It's working out 364 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 2: very well. Obviously, customers love it, and as a result, 365 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 2: what's taking place is they're thinking about using this across 366 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 2: the country at other hubs. Now, you know, I've been 367 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 2: on a Delta flight where I rushed to get from 368 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 2: one gate to the next with a bunch of people, 369 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 2: where they let the connecting flight leave ten minutes early 370 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 2: and then look at me like it's my fault. Here's 371 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 2: American Airlines saying, you know, we'd really like to put 372 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 2: the customer first. And I love it when they're doing that, 373 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: and I wish other carriers would have that mentality. But 374 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 2: you know, American used to be the flight leaves on time, 375 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 2: regardless of who has to die. Again, that's an overreach, 376 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 2: but that was it, and nothing ever left late, and 377 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 2: airline agents at the gate were held to extreme measures 378 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 2: if one of their flights left late, and American finally said, 379 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 2: you know what, yes, the late flights cost this money, 380 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 2: but there's a little wiggle room. So they relaxed it 381 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 2: and said, if it's the agent's call now. If they 382 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 2: need to let that flight leave a minute or two 383 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: late based on the customer's needs, then that's what we're 384 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 2: going to do. And it changed the entire mindset. The 385 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 2: agents love this, customers absolutely love it, and again, hats 386 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: off to American Airlines. It's an incredible story. We rarely 387 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 2: get to talk about increase in customer service when we 388 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 2: talk about airlines. 389 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 1: Good call, just real quick. Any problem with the air 390 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: travel out there hub Lize, Denver. 391 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 2: Early, Chicago late. Other than that, just don't go to 392 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 2: des Moines. They're getting cream, but that's not a hub, 393 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 2: so we don't care.