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Speaker 1: You found Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. Right there you go.

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Speaker 2: Before we're done, maybe the last ever, maybe the last

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Speaker 2: everge Trey Hendrickson segment on this show, Maybe we're done

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Speaker 2: early UK Hoop's coming up at five thirty. The Wildcats

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Speaker 2: on the road tonight against Texas A and m A.

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Speaker 2: Kentucky is pretty safely in the NCAA Tournament. The official

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Speaker 2: bracketologist of this show is Hunter Sansum, who's becoming like

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Speaker 2: he's developing a sports media certainly a college basketball empire.

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Speaker 2: His website this time of year is a great resource.

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Speaker 2: We don't need Joe Lenardi, we don't need any of

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Speaker 2: these other bracketology hacks. We've got Hunter. He is on

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Speaker 2: Twitter at bracket NKY and he's with us.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: You know, just FYI, before Lance McCallister ever had you on,

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Speaker 2: we were first. Let's just make sure we've established that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we have established that, and I think I helped

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Speaker 3: establish that last night.

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Speaker 2: Rig you did, and I you know, Lance, Lance should

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Speaker 2: be I have no trust me. I wish I was

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Speaker 2: confused for Lance McCallister more often he should be offended.

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Speaker 2: So if he doesn't invite you on anymore. You know,

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Speaker 2: you kind of made your own bed.

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Speaker 3: Okay, absolutely, it's understandable.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with with the Bearcats. I think most UC

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Speaker 2: I think looking at it that way. While I get it,

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Speaker 2: it's sort of I don't know, it doesn't quite take

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Speaker 2: into consideration how hard it is to leap frog, the

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Speaker 2: number of teams they're going to have to jump over.

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Speaker 1: How do you look at them?

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Speaker 3: I agree with that, I think, I mean, having a

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Speaker 3: is obviously a good thing, but it's those steep road

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Speaker 3: to climb, and they're still pretty far out for me.

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Speaker 3: I do have them about seven or eighth out, but

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Speaker 3: that's all you can ask for.

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Speaker 1: Lose tonight in the bubble burst though, correct.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah, you can't lose. Probably before the semi finals

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Speaker 2: Generally speaking, how often do teams go from that next

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Speaker 3: I mean, I would say it happens every now and again.

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Speaker 2: The Miami Radhawks have two regular season games remaining. They

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Speaker 2: how good or not good do you feel about their

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Speaker 3: If they go undefeated to the next two games, they

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Speaker 2: What did you make of Bruce Pearl's commentary about the RedHawks.

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Speaker 3: I mean and Bruce obviously with referring to Auburn as

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Speaker 2: So that's my perspective as well, because I don't think

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Speaker 2: Palm doesn't. Now the schedule is being considered. The schedule

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, or even if Bruce could have done it and

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Speaker 1: How much before with like Indiana State, how much?

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Speaker 2: How much does it matter when if they were to

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Speaker 2: How much does it How nervous should Miami fans feel

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Speaker 2: In your latest model, you have them as a ten seed,

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Speaker 1: If they go undefeated, completely.

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Speaker 3: Let's say to Akron and the conference championship game, I

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Speaker 2: When you have non Division one games on your resume,

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Speaker 3: It's not super frequent that we see a team that

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Speaker 2: I feel like Kentucky has gone from not a lock

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Speaker 2: Five Ohio State. It's a big home win against Purdue.

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Speaker 3: Have them above Dayton. The bubble is extremely weak and

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Speaker 2: But as a UC fan, I should root for Ohio

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Speaker 2: when it comes to projections, they kind of haven't moved right,

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Speaker 2: Like from your perspective, you have them first four out,

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Speaker 3: So around the bubble, not necessarily a ton. Honestly, all

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Speaker 3: Indiana is sitting at four and twelve right now, in

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Speaker 1: If Indiana loses to Minnesota, does the bubble burst?

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Speaker 2: If Xavier beats Seaton Hall, how much does that help

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Speaker 3: It knocks Seaton Hall completely out. I don't think Seaton

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Speaker 2: All right, So I'm looking at teams in front of Cincinnati,

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Speaker 3: if they beat BYU tonight. Thinks that kind of takes

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Speaker 2: Tonight, awesome stuff. As always, you called me by the

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Speaker 2: correct name. The next time you're on with Lance, I

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Speaker 2: need you to call him Mo again and uh we

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Speaker 2: will probably bother you next week. I don't know Hunter

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Speaker 2: went away. I didn't hear what he had to say,

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Speaker 2: but I'm sure it was I'm sure it was friendly. Nonetheless, Hunter,

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Speaker 2: thank you. As always, make sure you check out first

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Speaker 2: of all, his his Twitter feed is a must, especially

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Speaker 2: this time of year because he's he's updating it on

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Speaker 2: a daily basis that is terrific. At bracket NK, why

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Speaker 2: and uh he's got the website. He is becoming like

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Speaker 2: a magnet. He's becoming like I'm trying to think of

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Speaker 2: the best word here, He's one day he's going to

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Speaker 2: be like more well known than Joelenardi, like Joelnardi is

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Speaker 2: like the bracket Hunter is is going to be. You know,

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Speaker 2: he's gonna take over for him uh nkybracketology dot com

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Speaker 2: and again at bracket nky and I saw that he

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Speaker 2: shared on social media. He's gonna go cover the first

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Speaker 2: four and Dayton like, there's gonna be a time where

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Speaker 2: we we like try to reach out to him and

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Speaker 2: we're gonna have to like go through his agent or

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Speaker 2: book him through some publicist or something.

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Speaker 1: So we're we're lucky to have them while we do.

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Speaker 2: Hunter Sansom's handsom sports media nkybracketology dot Com at bracket nky.

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Speaker 2: Let's see here, we got UK basketball coming up in

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Speaker 2: just about fifteen minutes, perhaps for the final time ever,

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Speaker 2: a segment on Trey Hendrickson and work in a few

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Speaker 2: college hoopslods as well. Before we Get Done on ESPN

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