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Speaker 1: If the Steelers really want to win Monday Night against

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Speaker 1: Houston in that playoff game, they'll start Will Howard, so

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Speaker 1: it has been said, So it should come to pass.

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Speaker 2: Shady McCoy x of pitt.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers already won a fake playoff game either, going

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Speaker 1: to try to ruin a real playoff game that's Monday

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Speaker 1: night at home against Houston. Come watch the game with

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Speaker 1: me at Pittsburgh Brewing Company. Just off through twenty eight

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Speaker 1: and Creighton joining me now from the Athletic does a

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Speaker 1: great job covering the hypocycloid.

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Speaker 2: It's Mike de Fabo.

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Speaker 1: Mike, how can the Steelers cope with that Houston defense

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Speaker 1: in that pass rush?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's going to be a huge problem.

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Speaker 4: You look just two weeks ago what kind of a

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Speaker 4: challenge Miles Garrett was for the Steelers. And I understand

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Speaker 4: that he did not break the sack record against the Steelers,

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Speaker 4: but he did wreck the game without even getting on

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Speaker 4: the stat sheet. Because of the fact the Steelers realize

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Speaker 4: they've got a forty two.

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Speaker 3: Year old quarterback.

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Speaker 4: He's mobile as he once was, and so they tried

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Speaker 4: to get the ball out of his hands quickly. It's

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Speaker 4: going to be even more of a problem because not

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Speaker 4: only do the Houston Pextans have one great Pro Bowl

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Speaker 4: edge rusher and Will Anderson, They've got another up and

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Speaker 4: coming very good just as good edge rusher and then

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Speaker 4: Darnell Washington and he would be a huge part of

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Speaker 4: this game plan and the pass protection plan. Not having

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Speaker 4: Darnell Washington in this game, I think he's going to

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Speaker 3: Factor in this one.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's that's probably my biggest concern is

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Speaker 4: can Aaron Rodgers not only win this game, can he

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Speaker 4: survive it because of the hits and because of the

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Speaker 2: No, that's very well put.

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Speaker 1: And it's worth noting that Baltimore is a far superior

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Speaker 1: beat Baltimore because Baltimore has no pass rush, their pressure

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Speaker 4: He Yeah, exactly, And you know, like the Houston Texans,

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Speaker 4: they're not going to try to trick Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 3: A lot of times.

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Speaker 4: It's been like Aaron Rodgers experience has been such an

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Speaker 3: But The way Houston.

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Speaker 4: Plays defense is almost the way the Steelers wish that

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Speaker 4: they could. They just line up, you know what kind

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Speaker 4: of defense they're going to be in, but they can

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Speaker 4: beat you because they've got Pro Bowl players at all

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Speaker 3: We just talked about the edge rushers.

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Speaker 4: They've also got a linebacker Aziz al Shayer, who's a

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Speaker 4: I think that he could match up really well against

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Speaker 4: DK Metcalf and for a Steelers team that has one weapon,

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Speaker 4: a huge gap and then everybody else, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: YEA, let's stay with DK for a second because can

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that they would have zero chance without K.

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Speaker 2: Houston's offense won't overwhelm, will it.

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Speaker 1: I kind of feel like Demico Ryans is a very

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Speaker 4: I think that creating pressure is going to be one

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Speaker 3: Their weak link, I would say, is probably their offensive line.

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Speaker 1: Am I wrong to feel like the Steelers still don't

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Speaker 1: It was like a two thirds split in favor of

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Speaker 1: I also know a lot of those passager just flicks

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think that it's going to be really

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Speaker 3: It's not going to be easy.

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Speaker 4: Houston enters this game fourth in rushing defense, allowing ninety

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Speaker 3: To win this game.

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Speaker 2: Where's the Steelers defense? What's good and what's bad?

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Speaker 4: there's no time to do it. Within that secondary. It's

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Speaker 4: And one thing that I'm really looking when I look

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Speaker 3: But then they went out and they got Joey Porter Junior.

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Speaker 4: And if you go back to twenty twenty three when

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Speaker 4: we've got to start playing Joey Porter Junior a lot

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Speaker 4: Huge test for Joey Porter Junior and that secondary, because

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Speaker 4: I think that Joey has continued to progress quietly, and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think that like, maybe one of

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Speaker 4: Of that was, I think there's maybe a fifty percent

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Speaker 1: I think his options will probably be more limited than

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Speaker 4: Blown off by the Bills, and the Texans beat the

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Speaker 1: Mike is always great stuff. Great work covering the Baltimore game.

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Speaker 1: We'll do it again next week.

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Speaker 1: Let's face it, You've always been in love with me,

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Speaker 7: I don't think, oh I know.

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Speaker 2: I just don't think that's possible at forty two.

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Speaker 1: I think the occasional great drive like he had at

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Speaker 1: Play it close to the vest, don't fall too far behind.

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Speaker 1: And really I felt that ten points behind was too

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Speaker 1: maybe literally. So if that pass rush can really tee

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Speaker 1: I just don't think that's possible at his age, except,

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Speaker 1: allow him to come on. I don't want a priest

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Rick, Rick, you're own with double.

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Speaker 6: M hey Mark, so you know how Tomlin is Todd

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Speaker 6: with nol for regular season wins now right, I genuinely

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Speaker 6: than Nol.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you call every day under a different name.

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Speaker 1: It obviously doesn't prove Tom Wins a better coach than

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Speaker 7: It does prove it.

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Speaker 3: Now tell me why it does.

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Speaker 1: Not prove that mark because Chuck Nole won four Super

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Speaker 1: And like all that Tom went and I've given that

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Speaker 2: And using a different name every day, that's a little sad,

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Speaker 1: Then again, I bet his wife uses a different name

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Speaker 8: You don't have to eat out.

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Speaker 3: You can enjoy delicious meals from Healthy Choice.

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Speaker 4: Like there's simply steamers, grilled chicken and broccoli alfredo at

447
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Speaker 4: home or commit.

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Speaker 9: So let's have it.

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Speaker 8: He's a little guy.

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Speaker 9: I'd love to get the balls to say.

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Speaker 8: Very good point the exit one oh five nine.

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Speaker 1: Peng was on a five game heater, joining me now

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Speaker 1: to talk about it. You hear him on radio, you

454
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Speaker 1: see him on TV. He's a two time Stanley Cup champion.

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Speaker 1: It's the old two niner. Phil Burke, uh two nine

456
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Speaker 1: five wins in a row for the Penguins, Who and

457
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Speaker 1: what have been the main catalyst for that.

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Speaker 7: Good afternoon double I'm good to be on with you,

459
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Speaker 7: like always. Who has been the catalyst? Son, Well, I'll

460
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Speaker 7: say Blake was out. How's that? I'll start with Blake

461
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Speaker 7: was out, because that's no coincidence that when Blake Leott

462
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Speaker 7: came back in the lineup, the Penguins started to get

463
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Speaker 7: some traction. Uh, the captain City Crosby. Absolutely, you have

464
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Speaker 7: to include him. The goaltending has been very well improved.

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Speaker 7: We've got guys going throughout the lineup, so there's more

466
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Speaker 7: of a balanced attack.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't.

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Speaker 7: It's not so much top heavy, and it's not just

469
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Speaker 7: the guys that score all the time. It seems like

470
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Speaker 7: everybody's got an oar in the water and wants to

471
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Speaker 7: be a part of this right now. It's really remarkable, Mark,

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Speaker 7: I mean, you know, we tught we thought it was

473
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Speaker 7: remarkable the eight two and two start in October and

474
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Speaker 7: then they came down to earth and I think, you know,

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Speaker 7: some of the talking heads, maybe myself included, thought, is this.

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Speaker 5: Who they really are?

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Speaker 2: Like, No, I don't.

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Speaker 7: This is a good hockey team. It's a well constructed

479
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Speaker 7: hockey team. They even just forget how to play, and

480
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Speaker 7: in some remarkable way they were able to dust themselves

481
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Speaker 7: off during the Christmas break. So let's give a little

482
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Speaker 7: credit to the Christmas break because last year, Mark, if

483
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Speaker 7: you remember, the Penguins were on a bit of a

484
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Speaker 7: heater before the Christmas break. There were ten three and one.

485
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Speaker 7: They spank the Philadelphia Flyers a couple of days before

486
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Speaker 7: Christmas seven to three on home mikes, and then they

487
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Speaker 7: were never the same coming out of the break. So

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Speaker 7: a little tip of the jopa to the Christmas break

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Speaker 7: because it seems to be just what the pay was needed.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Lazotte, and I totally agree, but let me

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Speaker 1: go a little bit deeper. I like that fourth line,

492
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Speaker 1: but only when both a Chari and Lizotte are available.

493
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Speaker 1: Like when a Chari's been out, that fourth line is

494
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Speaker 1: kind of stumbled too. They need both of those guys,

495
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Speaker 1: They need.

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Speaker 3: All the guys.

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Speaker 7: I said this the other night I was doing a

498
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Speaker 7: game between the benches. I feel that Doer needs Lozatte

499
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Speaker 7: and Achari. A Chari needs Lazatte and Doer, and Lazotte

500
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Speaker 7: needs a Chari like they need each other, you know,

501
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Speaker 7: in a roundabout type of way. Individually they're good players,

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Speaker 7: but together they're they're unbelievable. They're as good a fourth

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Speaker 7: line it's in the National Hockey League right now, and

504
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Speaker 7: that's you're getting offense. Allows me to say that because

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Speaker 7: if they're not scoring, you like, that's a really good

506
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Speaker 7: fourth line. They do a lot of little things, right,

507
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Speaker 7: but now that they're chipping in offensively, that puts the next.

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Speaker 2: Level Gino's been on.

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Speaker 1: It looks like he's gonna come back Thursday night against

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Speaker 1: New Jersey.

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Speaker 2: What kind of impact will he have?

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Speaker 1: And would you pop him right back between the two

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Speaker 1: big guys Braso and Manta.

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Speaker 7: Yes, let me think about it, Yes and double yes, absolutely,

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Speaker 7: I put him right back in there. And listen, that's

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Speaker 7: nothing against Tommy Novac. Tommy Novak has been a breath

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Speaker 7: of fresh air. Tommy Novak continues to impress me. I

518
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Speaker 7: find myself, you know, as the color guy, I don't

519
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Speaker 7: have to watch the puck, but I find myself watching

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Speaker 7: the little things that he does, and I'm like, Wow,

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Speaker 7: this must be what Dan Mues seasoned him. Because early on,

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Speaker 7: I'll be honest with you, I didn't see it. Maybe

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Speaker 7: I wasn't looking for it as much. Dan Mues saw

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Speaker 7: something and Tommy and all that he stuck with him

525
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Speaker 7: and put him up and down the line. He just

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Speaker 7: kept keeping on. And I think ever since he came

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Speaker 7: off of Sid's left wing where he was okay and

528
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Speaker 7: put in that two hole that to see where Gino was,

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Speaker 7: he's really made that line go. And you know Brazil

530
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Speaker 7: and Mantha, you know they can create some on their own,

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Speaker 7: but they need to fulfill a right then he was

532
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Speaker 7: center riceman to help, you know, make the train go

533
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Speaker 7: down the tracks. And but I would absolutely put Gino

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Speaker 7: back in there. I would put Tommy Novak down with

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Speaker 7: Ben Kindall and uh Kinnikov. Yes, I would.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you, okay, it is my god.

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Speaker 7: No, no, listen, you got to earn your strikes, Mark,

538
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Speaker 7: you got to earn your sef. He has not identified

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Speaker 7: himself on his role on this team and his role

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Speaker 7: in the national hockey He's a really good player. He's

541
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Speaker 7: going to be an NHL player for a long time.

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Speaker 7: But he's got to figure out he's not good enough

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Speaker 7: to go tiptoeing through the tulips. He's got to be

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Speaker 7: a son of a you know what. He's got to

545
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Speaker 7: be a Patrick Honquick, he's got to be a Chris Kunitz.

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Speaker 7: He's got to be a he's got to get the

547
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Speaker 7: other team to hate him more because he's just going

548
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Speaker 7: up and down and the puck's not finding him because

549
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Speaker 7: he's not getting his nose dirty enough. He's not a

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Speaker 7: skilled enough player to play way he's playing right now.

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Speaker 7: He's got to get his nose dirtier right now. And

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Speaker 7: there's other guys that are taking a spot. Listen, I'm

553
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Speaker 7: not saying, you know, Boom, send them down with Wilks

554
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Speaker 7: for the rest of the season. But I'm saying you

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Speaker 7: might have to take a number here in the Deli line.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I will agree to disagree, and I'm gonna be honest.

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Speaker 2: The guy I would sit would be Tommy Novak.

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Speaker 1: I think he's done good in filling in in the

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Speaker 1: top six, but I think he's a top six style player.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he'll thrive on the third line and

561
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Speaker 1: when he's scored, when he's not scoring, he doesn't help you.

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Speaker 7: Well, he's scoring more than Rutger is right now.

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Speaker 2: Right now, he is one of his best.

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Speaker 7: Hockey as a Pittsburgh pregnant. That's what I'm saying about,

565
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Speaker 7: Like a Retker's gonna have to wear this term because

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Speaker 7: he did nothing to separate himself where he should be

567
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Speaker 7: get a jersey every single night. And that's maybe that's

568
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Speaker 7: me the old guy and some tough love, you know,

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Speaker 7: because I just feel like there's a lot more there

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Speaker 7: for Rutger and he's not giving it to you right now.

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Speaker 1: What's your other returns on Chinnikov who scored a great

572
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Speaker 1: goal at Detroit and a great pass from Kendall.

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Speaker 7: Incredibly talented shot is yeah, really talented. His shot is

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Speaker 7: above average. And I feel like, you know, remember when

575
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Speaker 7: we got Mike Mathieson from Florida.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, he was he was right.

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Speaker 7: He was kind of like he's kind of damaged a

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Speaker 7: little bit right as far as his his ego, his confidence,

579
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Speaker 7: his you know, it's kind of everything right, and we

580
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Speaker 7: rehabilitated him and he became a really good hockey player.

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Speaker 7: And I think that's where tinacovs right now. I just

582
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Speaker 7: think it was a toxic environment. If you know Dean Everson,

583
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Speaker 7: the head coach of the Columbus Blue Jackets, he's an

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Speaker 7: old school guy. He were even more old school hard

585
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Speaker 7: ass than I am. And I just don't think they

586
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Speaker 7: saw I right from the get go. And it just

587
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Speaker 7: wasn't gonna work.

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Speaker 2: A lot.

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Speaker 7: It happens a lot coaches just kind of have a

590
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Speaker 7: guy that they don't they don't like. They don't like

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Speaker 7: the way he plays, maybe they don't like the way

592
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Speaker 7: they dress, maybe don't like the way they walk, maybe

593
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Speaker 7: don't like the way they cut their cobnate hair. I

594
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Speaker 7: don't know. It just does not There's nothing good about

595
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Speaker 7: him being in Columbus and he probably feels like, Wow,

596
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Speaker 7: this is awesome to be You can see he's just

597
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Speaker 7: playing free. And you know he had an assist on

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Speaker 7: the overtime winner for sid in Columbus and that beautiful

599
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Speaker 7: goal that he had in Detroit. Let's see if that

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Speaker 7: will give him some traction and confidence because he's incredibly talented.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to the old two to niner here on

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Speaker 1: the Home of the Penguins one oh five nine The

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Speaker 1: x H. We got Eric Carlston on the program tomorrow, BORKI,

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Speaker 1: and like you, I've been up and down with him,

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Speaker 1: but I think this has been his best season with

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Speaker 1: the Penguins out of the three, and I think that's

607
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Speaker 1: a little bit of a law.

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Speaker 2: He's picked it up the last couple of games what's say.

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Speaker 7: You nope, I concur go, then we will agree on

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Speaker 7: this one. When the Penguins have won games and played

611
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Speaker 7: their best, a lot of it is because Eric Carlson's

612
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Speaker 7: playing a simple defense first, picking his spots offensively type

613
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Speaker 7: of style, getting shots on the net, trying not trying

614
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Speaker 7: to too much of the shot pass or too much

615
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Speaker 7: of the far post, and then he's got an incredible shot,

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Speaker 7: just like Crystal ten when they get the puck on

617
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Speaker 7: the net. So many times, it's not that shot that

618
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 7: goes in, it's what happens after it, because goaltenders have

619
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Speaker 7: a tough time corralling the rebound and putting it in

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Speaker 7: the corner because they shoot it so hard. And I

621
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Speaker 7: really liked his dedication to defense, and I'm gonna say this,

622
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Speaker 7: I hope I see it the right way. He still

623
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Speaker 7: makes mistakes with the puck, but this is not something

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Speaker 7: he did under Mike Sullivan. There's so many times this

625
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 7: season when he's made it, he's had a hiccup and

626
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 7: he has just put his head down and he has

627
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Speaker 7: flipped on the nitrous ox side and he has backchecked

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00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 7: like his hair's on fire. It's it's I mean, the

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Speaker 7: care and the want to do it is there, and

630
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Speaker 7: so I can really appreciate that that I just, you know,

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Speaker 7: I love to compete and to see Eric Carlson compete,

632
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 7: and no, hey, he's still gonna make mistakes, but if

633
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Speaker 7: he can cover up for his own mistakes with his

634
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 7: great skating ability, then you know, we'll take this version

635
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Speaker 7: of the Eric Carlson Because more times than not, when

636
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Speaker 7: the Penguins win a hockey game, at the end of

637
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 7: the night, you walk out of the rink and you're like, wow,

638
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Speaker 7: EACHK sixty five was really solid defensively.

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Speaker 2: Tonight, no question, Borky. We got to talk about that

640
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Speaker 2: win at Detroit, which was the.

641
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Speaker 1: Second leg of a home and home, but the Penguins

642
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: only a lot twelve shots on the road in a

643
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Speaker 1: road game. That's their all time low for road game

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Speaker 1: in franchise history.

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Speaker 2: I got to be honest, I was.

646
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Speaker 1: Watching the game and I thought I accidentally switched the channel.

647
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Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it was these Penguins playing like that,

648
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Speaker 1: and not least through the neutral zone.

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Speaker 7: Here's I'll throw another thing at you. That was a

650
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Speaker 7: twelve o'clock start mark, I know, you know, and a

651
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 7: lot of a lot of teams are sleepy, right. The

652
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 7: Penguins were not. And again I think it starts with

653
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Speaker 7: their captain. You know that first shift, I did you

654
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Speaker 7: get the first save from your goaltender? It was Stuart

655
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Speaker 7: Skinner the other night and the Penguins, it's it's almost

656
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 7: just laying the foundation and laying out the terms of

657
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Speaker 7: the way the game is going to be played. And

658
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Speaker 7: that's an impressive win because you're right, Detroit's a really

659
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Speaker 7: good team and they've got unbelievable my out of offensive

660
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 7: talented not only up front of the forwards, but they've

661
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 7: got some defensemen that can really jump up on the

662
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 7: rush and create offense that way too. And to limit

663
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Speaker 7: them to twelve shots while you're on the road, that

664
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Speaker 7: was that was really something else to behold. It was,

665
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 7: and that's after you know, some other games with the

666
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 7: Penguins were rock solid too, even like the Carolina game.

667
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 7: Like usually the Penguins have had those moments right mark,

668
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 7: where they've had those really stellar defensive games and then

669
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Speaker 7: the next game you're like, where the where the hell

670
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 7: is it? Like, where's the where's the same team that

671
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 7: we saw last night? Right? You know what I'm talking about?

672
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 7: And for them to kind of double down on it

673
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,959
Speaker 7: and to keep it going and to be that and

674
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 7: even be better defensively against Detroit than they were against Carolina.

675
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Speaker 7: Now that's something the hang you have on.

676
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Speaker 1: And then the Columbus game where they were down four

677
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: to one, although Borky I could kind of feel that

678
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: one coming. I even tweeted when they were done four

679
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: to one, this game still winnable because I just, I'll

680
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: be blunt, I just don't believe it all in Columbus.

681
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: I think that's a pretty bad roster. I like some

682
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: of the players, like Wrensky and Fantilly, but otherwise not

683
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: so much. And even at four to one, I thought

684
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: the Penguins had been playing okay. I thought they were

685
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: a bit hard done by to that point.

686
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 7: No, I agree, And the players acknowledged that the goal

687
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 7: by at Chari early on in that second period kind

688
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 7: of they kind of lit the few. They kind of

689
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 7: gave them hope, right, And so to be down like

690
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 7: like that and to mount that kind of comeback, and

691
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 7: and to do it in a kind of a cool way, right,

692
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 7: You got the goal by Novak on the power play,

693
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 7: and the power play Pengas are on the power play

694
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 7: because china Kov was able to draw the penalty right,

695
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 7: and then you have and then you have the lake

696
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 7: goal by Raquel and then the ot winner by Sid

697
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 7: and again we don't even get there if she loss

698
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 7: doesn't make three or four unbelievable saves just to keep

699
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 7: it within striking difference. So so that's the thing.

700
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Speaker 3: Mark.

701
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Speaker 7: We've seen it on the other side. So it's kind

702
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 7: of like, you know, when you step in that dog

703
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 7: poop and you smell your shoe when you're like, yeah,

704
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 7: that's dog poop. Right when you see it, you're kind

705
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 7: of like, yeah, that kind of looks like dog poop.

706
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 7: Then when you smell it, you're like, that's we kind

707
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,479
Speaker 7: of right, and Columbus is like, okay, yeah, we've smelled

708
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 7: this before. We know the way this goes. It was

709
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 7: just good. That was the Penguins. We're not the one

710
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 7: stepping in the dog poop. It was Columbus Blue Jackets.

711
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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny, Borsky because sometimes I feel we

712
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: talk too much about Sid, like the hockey media me

713
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: in particular, but.

714
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,719
Speaker 2: You can't, like, you can't talk too much about him.

715
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: He's a freaking alien.

716
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: He's thirty eight I've never seen a thirty eight year

717
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: old play this way.

718
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 2: And that might be true in any sport.

719
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: I mean, baseball is not really a sport, but in football,

720
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: the quarterback just takes a snap. But but I've never

721
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: seen a hockey player play like this at thirty eight,

722
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: for sure, No doublem.

723
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Speaker 7: I think we're equal in the way we kind of

724
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 7: check ourselves and yeah, listen, we get the block and

725
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 7: gold pomp Poms out come on. We love our Penguins,

726
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 7: you know, but you know, we start talking about sid

727
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 7: and we're like, okay, we're going over the top here,

728
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 7: and you're like the intert no. And I don't listen

729
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 7: to a lot of other you know, media in Canada

730
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 7: or or even national media that much in the US.

731
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 7: I like the local stuff, but the national media is

732
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 7: really on board with this too, even north of the border,

733
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 7: where you know, they love the bash Mario and they

734
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 7: love the bash Shid when they're not wearing the maple leaf. Right,

735
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 7: and now they're all just everybody just can't can't believe it.

736
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 7: And around the league. Now you're having generations, right, guys

737
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 7: that were like five, six, seven years old that were like, yeah,

738
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 7: Sidney Crosby poster on my wall when I first started

739
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 7: playing hockey. And now they're in the league, you know,

740
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 7: and Sid's still doing it. So it's just right. He's

741
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 7: a creature, he's a freak in a good way, and

742
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 7: he just has this. Listen, you get to the NHL,

743
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 7: you have this unbelievable appetite to compete and to be

744
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 7: great and to do everything you possibly can to get there. Right,

745
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 7: then there's it, right, And it's like, I don't know if,

746
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 7: like Nathan McKinnon works out with Sid. And I think

747
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 7: that's why. It's because this is the only way I

748
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 7: can watch video, I can talk to see, I can

749
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 7: I can talk to his coach, I can hire his coach.

750
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 7: But unless I am going step by step with him,

751
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 7: I'm never going to really understand what it takes to

752
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 7: get the Sid level. And that's the thing. There's this

753
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 7: love and there's this passion not only for the game,

754
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 7: but also for the city. You know, what kid puts

755
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 7: in his body, what he drinks, what he eats, how

756
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 7: he sleeps, all the things, the things he does day

757
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 7: in and day out. It's for you. It's for you,

758
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,720
Speaker 7: it's for me, it's for everybody. That loves that black

759
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 7: and gold jersey. He has this unbelievable he feels of

760
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 7: responsibility and he's willing to every single day go through

761
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 7: that toll boost and pay that toll whatever it might be,

762
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 7: to be the greatest because he just loves the game

763
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 7: and loves the Penguins that much.

764
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: You're right in that the North American media, the national

765
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: hockey media has kind of, you know, fallen back in

766
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: love with Sid or giving him credit. But we'll know

767
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: for sure how much they've they've they've jumped on the bandwagon.

768
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: If Sid gets ninety points and the Penguins make the playoffs,

769
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: he's got to be.

770
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 2: The friggin MVP.

771
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: But he's been cheated out of MVP enough times, just

772
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: like Mario was that they don't mind doing it again.

773
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 7: WM. Do you know how long it's been since then

774
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 7: Sid has won an award in the regular season that's

775
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 7: voted off ahead twenty fourteen, ridiculous, twenty fourteen. It's been

776
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 7: It's been a long time, in a long time, and

777
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 7: you know what, you know Mario enough, but like that's

778
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 7: why Barrio was, like he just wanted to win the

779
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 7: Ross or win the Rashard, you know, those type of.

780
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 8: No, no, no.

781
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 1: Mario said on my show the first time he retired,

782
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: like his exit interview in ninety six or ninety seven,

783
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: whenever it was, I asked him what he learned when

784
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 1: he got totally cheated in eighty nine with one hundred

785
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: and ninety nine points they gave Gretzky the MVP, and

786
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: he said, I learned to judge myself Stanley cupps and

787
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: scoring titles because nobody votes.

788
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 7: On those beautiful Yeah, and that's it, and that's if

789
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 7: you walk in those scandals, you'll be okay at the

790
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 7: end of the day. And that's all that really matters.

791
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 3: But you make a good point.

792
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 7: At some point, at some point, the people that have

793
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 7: been given this responsibility to vote on, you know, whatever

794
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 7: it is, the herd or whatever it is, you got

795
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 7: to start looking at eighty seven and not that he

796
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 7: wants it. He'll never admit that, and you're right, all

797
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 7: he cares about are Stanley Cups. But at some point,

798
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 7: come on, you got you gotta acknowledge what this guy's doing,

799
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 7: because it really is incredible.

800
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 2: Four Ky, you are the man. Great stuff. We'll see

801
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: it Thursday night.

802
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 7: I'm good, double one. Enjoy our time together. This was

803
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 7: good hockey talk.

804
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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Harrison Brunnick is in Pittsburgh, apparently after having played for

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Speaker 1: Canada and helping them win bronze at the World Juniors.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I guess they're going to decide what to do with him,

829
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 1: but all signs point to him going back to juniors.

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00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: This bite him, having already burned the year of his

831
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 1: contract by playing for Pittsburgh as much as he did.

832
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 2: They mangled that situation.

833
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Speaker 1: They just didn't do him any favors, his development, his confidence.

834
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: They just should have made a decision NHL all season

835
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: or juniors all season at the beginning and.

836
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 2: Stuck with it. But they didn't.

837
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: Also that Okamoto, the Japanese third basement that signed with Toronto,

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Speaker 1: that a lot of you foolishly thought the Pirates might get.

839
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Speaker 7: You.

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Speaker 1: Gotta go get your sushi. A giant eagle now, just

841
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: like always. He apparently picked the Blue Jays because he

842
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: liked their logo. I'm not sure I believe that, but

843
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: it is a funny story. Going to the North Hills

844
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: basketball games tonight, girls play first and boys second out

845
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: at North Hills. That's where my mom taught. We did

846
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: the scholarship thing there. It's funny because I'm gonna see

847
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: Mike White from the Post because that who I worked

848
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: with for years.

849
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Speaker 2: Good guy.

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00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: He is an assistant coach for or Hills or is

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Speaker 1: it the JV coach, so I'm sure i'll see him there.

852
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 2: And Joe Starkey from the B team.

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00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,919
Speaker 1: He's an assistant coach at the girls level or maybe

854
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: eighth grade, I'm not sure which, but so I'm kind

855
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Speaker 1: of looking forward to that. You know, It's funny because

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Speaker 1: I will mention like Joe's name on the air, whoever's

857
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: name on the air from.

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00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 2: The B team, because I don't think it matters.

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00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: They're not allowed to mention my name, and nor are

860
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: they supposed to interact with me on Twitter, although Muller

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Speaker 1: does and Crowley a case me this Austin Beck told,

862
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Speaker 1: But you know, it's it's just not that big a deal.

863
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: It's not that big of a competition, even though I

864
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: always win it. I mean, I just don't get why

865
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: you can't, you know. I mean, I'm the patriarch of this,

866
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: no matter what anybody wants to say or not say

867
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 1: about me.

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Speaker 2: Any hoodles as mark anything. Let's go to Sean Sewan,

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Speaker 2: go ahead, double m hey.

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Speaker 10: I was wondering, with the yes they've had, or at

871
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Speaker 10: least part so far this season, with the young players

872
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 10: they have and they draft they have coming up, what

873
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 10: the realistic expectations for when the pen can deep back,

874
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 10: not just in a as a playoff contender, but an

875
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:09,240
Speaker 10: actual contender.

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00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: There's just no way to say that this next draft

877
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: will telltale because one thing they lack in the system

878
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: is a legitimate top line forward. They got everything else

879
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: coming through, but a legitimate top line forward, so there's

880
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 1: just no way to predict.

881
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 2: Thank you for the call. And that's one thing. I mean.

882
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: I'm glad they're doing good, but I like you heard

883
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: Porky talk about McGroarty maybe being scraped.

884
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 2: Toss them back to the minders. I mean, what the frig?

885
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 2: What the frig?

886
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get Tommy Novak in there, because he'll be

887
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: a round when we're a good team again. He ain't

888
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: even a good player now, he's just playing a couple

889
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: of good games, and the idea of him playing bottom six,

890
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: it's just not a good one.

891
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 2: Let's go to art art Eskmark anything, Hey Mark.

892
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 7: What happens now with the Thomasina Zamola trade.

893
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, Zamola refused to report they released them. I

894
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: think they just keep Tomasino and the Penguins didn't want

895
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: him anyway. I'm sure they're glad they're not be paying Zamola.

896
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: I think ever any wins. Thank you for the call.

897
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 1: Let's go to a talkback.

898
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 9: Hi, Mark.

899
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 5: I know you talked a little bit about how you

900
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 5: don't like the fourth line because it's veterans and.

901
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 9: This team should be rebuilding.

902
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 3: But don't you think it'd be irresponsible to.

903
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 7: Break up that line when they're playing so well?

904
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: Well, I don't say break it up.

905
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: I just wonder what your goals are because they're getting

906
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: like more minutes than the third line some nights. So

907
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I give all due respect to a Charie

908
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: and Lozade, I think doers a dime a dozen. But yeah,

909
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 1: those two are playing really well. The line's playing really well.

910
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: But I mean, what are your goals? Is it to

911
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: squeak into the number eight scene get killed in the

912
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: first round or is it to make young players like

913
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: McGroarty betters you can be legitimate contender down the road.

914
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: I know what my goal is. I'm not sure what

915
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: THEIRS is. I used to be sure, Now I'm not.

916
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: Let's go to Donnie.

917
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 9: Hey, Mark, So I'm not gonna believe anything until I

918
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 9: see it. But I was reading about some of the

919
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 9: speculations about Tomlin possibly leaving Pittsburgh, taking off a year

920
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 9: doing only to do TV or whatever, and then go

921
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 9: back to coaching. But I was reading that whatever team

922
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 9: he chooses to coach for, he's gonna seek stake ownership,

923
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 9: and I was just wondering, I.

924
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 2: Would I would, I would.

925
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: I wouldn't give some guy who won't won a playoff

926
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: game in eight year stake ownership. Who the freak does

927
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: he think he is? I mean freaking Noel never asked.

928
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: I mean, like, I seriously, if that's true. You know,

929
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: I don't believe it's true, because I think Tomlin is

930
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: a thousand percent full of minure and has yupras out

931
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: the yin yang that rivals very few people. But even

932
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: I don't believe he's narcissistic enough to think he could

933
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: get ownership to coach.

934
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 9: That's what I was thinking.

935
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: I could not if he asked me for that.

936
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: I was art runey the second I could not tell

937
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: him to go f himself quickly enough.

938
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 2: Thank you for the call. Let's go to a talkback.

939
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 3: Hey, Mark, if the Steelers beat Detexans on Monday night,

940
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 3: do you think Mike Tomlin signs an extension?

941
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 8: Thanks?

942
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: I think you'll coach the Steelers as long as he

943
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: wants to. We got the Hebrew