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Speaker 1: By Billy Cunningham, The Great America and talk about the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: Later on we had Moe coming up. Plus FC was

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Speaker 1: a complete disaster, as was you see Bearcatcher's problems everywhere.

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Speaker 1: But in the studio with me right now is Iris,

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Speaker 1: Rolie and Iris Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. I

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Speaker 1: think for the first time, is that correct?

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Speaker 2: That is absolutely correct.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about what happened last night in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: And on Sunday we had something the range of I

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Speaker 1: don't know, seven or eight people were shot, one was murdered.

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Speaker 1: According to most of the accounts, the city is ripe

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Speaker 1: with violence of one type or another. And as the

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Speaker 1: collaborator describe to the American people, what your role is with

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Speaker 1: the city at this point?

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Speaker 2: So Willie, what my role is with the city currently

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Speaker 2: is what my role has been almost for twenty five years,

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Speaker 2: prior to me signing a contract to be consultant to

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Speaker 2: the city manager on you on the work of policing

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Speaker 2: public safety, to work through the collaborative. So for twenty

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Speaker 2: two years, I just want to say to you and

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Speaker 2: your listeners, I dedicated myself. My husband allowed me to

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Speaker 2: My husband of thirty one years has allowed me to

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Speaker 2: give them myself freely to the work of the Collaborative Agreement,

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Speaker 2: so that meant no pay. We had no budget, we

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Speaker 2: had no staff, we had nothing. And this was from

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Speaker 2: the community's lins. This is from the Black United Front lines,

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Speaker 2: the people who came together collective lands that we're going

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Speaker 2: to sue the city, the FOP in this police alleging

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Speaker 2: racial profile. And now, mister Cunningham, I know folks get

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Speaker 2: all up in their panties about well, what does that

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Speaker 2: mean she's anti police? You're absolutely incorrect. Iris Rowley has

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Speaker 2: done work greater than most people in the city, and

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Speaker 2: I'm grateful to my spouse and to the Black United

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Speaker 2: Front and everybody who's put work into the hands of

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Speaker 2: the Collaborative Agreement, including the police.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the police, because as a collaborator of sorts,

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Speaker 1: you have to work with different groups. One most important

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Speaker 1: groups is the police. Correct.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I had Ken Cobra on the head of the union

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Speaker 1: about a month ago on Friday, Ken, and he said

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Speaker 1: that they have no confidence in you. They said that

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Speaker 1: you involved yourself wrongfully, possibly criminally in arrest. They had

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Speaker 1: video of you interfering with the police. Arrest and they

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Speaker 1: have no confidence in you. So if one of the

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Speaker 1: main parties of the collaborative is the police, and the

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Speaker 1: police don't want to collaborate with you.

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Speaker 2: A problem. Yeah, that is a problem. So listen, So Willie,

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Speaker 2: I got into this in a very hostile rep way, right.

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Speaker 2: So we were at the cusp of fifteen unarmed black

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Speaker 2: men being killed at the hands of the police. The

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Speaker 2: city had gone through civil unrest, major corporations, people didn't

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Speaker 2: want to come. We were asking people to boycott downtown Cincinnati,

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Speaker 2: and we downtown tourism and we were effective, and the

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Speaker 2: whole world saw the Cincinnati was having issues with the

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Speaker 2: black community and the police. That's what we rolle into

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Speaker 2: federal court. With thirty years of problematic policing. Now in

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Speaker 2: the past twenty five years, if you got one incident

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Speaker 2: she gets an A plus.

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Speaker 1: I have there several incidents.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I've seen three or four videos. No,

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Speaker 2: so don't do that. You saw two videos, and you

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Speaker 2: saw two videos. One on a set which I was

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Speaker 2: called downtown to help a family who's sixteen year old

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Speaker 2: was killed by a fourteen year old so I get up.

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Speaker 2: Because I work all the time, I don't know when

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Speaker 2: to tell me that because I go from consultant to

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Speaker 2: that's not fair. However, so when I get a call

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Speaker 2: me and say, can you help the family? They don't

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Speaker 2: know where the body is. They don't know this, they

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Speaker 2: At eight thirty in the morning, I stand on Main

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Speaker 2: and this is who I have been. So I go there.

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Speaker 2: I help the family. We stand outside, Willie outside for

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Speaker 2: five hours. So I stand outside, find the baby, find

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Speaker 2: noticing all these folks walking around with cups. They have alcohol,

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Speaker 2: and I'm a contributor. I am a tax payer, and

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Speaker 2: I pay attention to my town. So folk want to

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Speaker 2: be mad because I pay attention to Cincinnati. Well be mad.

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Speaker 2: I have at it. But I'm noticing a lot of

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Speaker 2: folk walking around with beer and wine and cups. I mean,

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Speaker 2: is this this is not a door? What's happening? So

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Speaker 2: get an Ampanada so I can go home now to

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Speaker 2: contend to my business. I see right where I'm about

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Speaker 2: to move into because I go live on Green and Republic.

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Speaker 2: Try to live down there for thirty days so I

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Speaker 2: because that's still part of the destroyer. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: get there. To you, attorney, no, no, no, I sound

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Speaker 2: like a taxpayer. I sound like a person who's not

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Speaker 2: whose voice hasn't been heard so that you can hear

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Speaker 2: the goodness and you can stop trying to find the

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Speaker 1: Now, let me say the police don't want to collaborate

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Speaker 1: with you.

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Speaker 2: That's that's not all the police. It was seven people,

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Speaker 2: ten people. So so one of the things that I

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Speaker 2: have for you, Misster Cunningham, because always told you we're

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Speaker 2: gonna try to get me, is I literally just got

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Speaker 2: back with now in some chief hand.

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Speaker 1: I'm not getting. I'm reporting facts to you.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's facts, because I don't I

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Speaker 2: don't talk to about collaborate. I talked to Can Cobra

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Speaker 2: and he's not said that to me. My husband talked

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Speaker 2: to King Cobra. He's not said they did. Now I've

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Speaker 2: read it in the newspaper. But they have no choice.

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Speaker 2: You said that the police are the main character. They're not.

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Speaker 2: The community is the number one the number one stakeholder

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Speaker 2: in the collaborative.

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Speaker 1: Agreement is the community community, the black community, Cincinnati's majority

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Speaker 1: white city.

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Speaker 2: Well, but the majority white city wasn't having fitting fitting

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Speaker 2: on white men killed at the hands.

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Speaker 1: They were all justified.

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Speaker 2: No, they were not.

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Speaker 1: Which one wasn't other than Steven Roach.

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Speaker 2: And and and and in our in our community, that's

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Speaker 2: what we were told. They were justified because there were

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Speaker 2: no investigations. Mister Cunningham, and I see where you want

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Speaker 2: to go, but I'm gonna keep moving us forward because

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Speaker 2: that's what Cincinnati is and that's what the Collaborative has.

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Speaker 2: A Sure we helped Cincinnati do move forward. Had we

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Speaker 2: not built in the framework of say and problem solving

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Speaker 2: to address public safety and policing issues, we wouldn't have

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Speaker 2: all the development. You wouldn't have a downtown that you

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you know this, mister cunnyh but

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Speaker 2: the police and I have traveled the country together to

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Speaker 2: talk about it. So when you say police, whom are

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Speaker 2: you talking about? I just got back from Madison, Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: You should The FOP said they won't collaborate with you,

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Speaker 1: and you're wrong.

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Speaker 2: Well, who's FOP? I mean there are many there are

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Speaker 2: many members. Well, there are many members, and you don't

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Speaker 1: Surely when that happened, there was some The mayor came

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Speaker 1: to meet with you and they're going to identify problems

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Speaker 1: when you interfere with an arrest and hopefully that'll get better.

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Speaker 1: Did you meet with the mayor about your involvement and

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Speaker 1: the arrest of a person that you seem to interfere with.

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Speaker 2: Did you get But your facts are wrong. No one

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Speaker 2: was arrested. There was a recitable ticket. So that's how

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Speaker 2: I know you're speaking from me ill because your facts

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Speaker 2: are not wrong.

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Speaker 1: Conference, they're going to get with you and counsel you

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Speaker 1: and help you to understand. Did you ever speak to

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Speaker 1: the mayor on that issue?

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Speaker 2: I'm spoken to the mayor about many issues.

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Speaker 1: Did he talk about that issue? Did he change your behavior?

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Speaker 1: Did her behavior?

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Speaker 2: I don't think so, mister. No, No, I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: And here's what I didn't do, because if I broke

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Speaker 2: the law, I expect to be arrested, but they did

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Speaker 2: not because they just want to take a.

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Speaker 1: Problem.

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Speaker 2: Well, mister Cunningham, let me tell you what happened. The

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Speaker 2: way younger than I'm gonna call you, mister Cunningham, but

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Speaker 2: I'm old enough to be respected. And so here's the deal.

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Speaker 2: If I broke the law, I would expect for any

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Speaker 2: more cops than you have. I've talked to way more

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Speaker 2: because I talked to every recruit class. I have done

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Speaker 2: that since the year of two thousand and eight. Now

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Speaker 2: here's where I think people get their panties in a bunch.

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Speaker 2: And forgive me for my colorful language, because I'm very colified.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, so I don't know. I don't know so, so,

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Speaker 2: mister Gunnaham, here's what I will say to you again

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Speaker 2: in twenty five years if that is the issue that

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Speaker 2: you have. And I've not killed anyone, I'm not to meet.

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Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not. But if the police say that

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Speaker 2: And I'm not going to tell you the story because

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Speaker 2: I don't think you're interested in facts. Y'all want a gaslight.

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Speaker 2: But that's cool too, because you can do that. I

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Speaker 2: report the facts, but the facts were it was a

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Speaker 1: Did the mayor ever talk to you and say, Irish,

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Speaker 1: kind of calm down a little bit, don't interfere with

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Speaker 1: an arrested and Mary tell you.

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Speaker 2: That the mayor after a peer of all which we

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Speaker 2: being and has always been answer the question, but has

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Speaker 2: always been policed. I am I'm answering the way that

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Speaker 2: I think that you deserve an.

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Speaker 1: Answer yes or no. Did the police did? Then?

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Speaker 2: I've talked to the mayor about many things, Miss Ham.

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Speaker 1: Okay not on another issue, the issue of the collaborative.

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Speaker 1: Do you think after twenty five years, there's many dozens

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Speaker 1: of police agencies in the Tri State, dozens of police agencies.

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Speaker 1: Since Tide Police is one of many police agencies, only

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Speaker 1: one has a collaborative. Do you think the police in

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati have racial tendencies of such a quality that the

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Speaker 1: collaborative needs to be an effect when all the other

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Speaker 1: police agencies in the Tri State don't. What's unique about

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati police? Who've had black police chiefs, black captains, et cetera,

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Speaker 2: Cities have one black captain right now well in the past.

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Speaker 2: So we have issues diversity diversity. Yes, we still have

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Speaker 2: I think that they're not courageous enough. One I've been sued,

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Speaker 2: If you look at the data that comes from our

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Speaker 1: Not Hamlety County Sheriff's office, Green Town, not Sycamore Township,

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Speaker 2: You're no, sir, not But you're the attorney. So can

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Speaker 1: Tracy Hunter, see Hunter, Judge Hunter, Judge Hunter, and speak

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Speaker 2: So yes, sir, I did utilize one tool in this

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Speaker 1: Are you set away? No?

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Speaker 1: Sorry because it was wrongful? No? Why is it because

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Speaker 2: No, Sarah did not.

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Speaker 1: Why not?

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Speaker 2: They didn't call me?

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Speaker 1: What do you have to only you respond to circumstances.

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Speaker 2: People call my phone all the time, mister Gunaham. People

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Speaker 2: Charge, No, sir, don't do that. Don't do that. I'm

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Speaker 1: Don't you want?

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Speaker 2: I think once you stopped. I think once you stop

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Speaker 2: If if you do know the interim police chief did

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Speaker 2: I've not heard that. I've not heard that from the

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Speaker 2: That's not what we demanded it.

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Speaker 1: Should a person be charged because of the color of

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Speaker 2: No, they should be charged based on facts.

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Speaker 2: It did happen. They were charged based on facts because

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Speaker 1: But he slapped a man after he was punched twice

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Speaker 2: But when you look at the video, mister Kunny Hammond,

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not sorry, No, I'm not sir. I feed children,

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Speaker 2: There is not enough to pay Iris really for the

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Speaker 2: I'll wait until well off.

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Speaker 1: As far as continuing, should we continue with the mayor?

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Speaker 1: Is the mayor autel long as the city manager? Yes,

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Speaker 2: I'm not in charge of the collaborative. I just worked

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Speaker 1: But you're paid right by tax dollars. I am paid

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Speaker 2: Mister Cunningham, I would, I would venture to say, I

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Speaker 1: You know it's my good friend.

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Speaker 2: I've not had any issues.

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Speaker 1: It's my good friend, Charlie Kirk said before he was

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Speaker 2: That's what we've been doing. That's what we've been doing.

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Speaker 2: That's what I've been doing.

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Speaker 1: When you come on again in a month or you

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Speaker 2: Married to that guy right there. You crazy. I will

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Speaker 2: be back. I'm a member of the Since Name Black

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Speaker 2: and Underfront. But listen, this is what I have for you,

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Speaker 2: mister Cunningham. This is the full collaborative agreement.

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Speaker 1: I want you to read it. I cant you can

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Speaker 1: have I got this right. You're a diploma right now.

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Speaker 2: You can't have my diploma. That's my participatory Read it though,

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Speaker 2: I want you to read it to the people so

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Speaker 1: Center for Problem Oriented Policing presents the Herman Goldstein Award

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Speaker 1: and Recognition of Excellence and Problem Oriented Policing to Missus, Iris,

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Speaker 1: Rowley Society, Black United Front.

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Speaker 2: There you go. So and I was with intem cheap

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Speaker 1: Did he see the tape ahead of time when he signed.

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Speaker 2: The falseho You should get him in here and talk

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Speaker 2: to him.

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Speaker 1: Why don't you ask the mayor and Hanny to come

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Speaker 1: in here that I've asked him, They won't come on.

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Speaker 1: They we got the guts to show up. I'll give

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Speaker 1: you credit for that, but.

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Speaker 2: You don't make it. You don't make it warm and fuzzy.

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Speaker 2: You don't make me fish to come with security.

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Speaker 1: You got two big men that.

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Speaker 2: It comes to.

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Speaker 1: Arm wrestled those security to this. Will you come back

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Speaker 1: in a month or two?

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Speaker 2: But let me say I have all the guts. You

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Speaker 2: know what I typically say to people, My balls are

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Speaker 2: beginning us. But my husband told me stop saying that.

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Speaker 2: So listen, are you transgender?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: I'm not. No, I'm not some are you? You sound

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Speaker 2: like it? Though? This is you got your Monday's on

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Speaker 2: to day with this Monday. But listen Tuesday that you

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Speaker 2: should have had on Sunday the way the Bengals play.

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Speaker 2: But but that's a whole other story.

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Speaker 1: Why don't you come on again? If you got the guns,

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Speaker 1: Irish Rowley, will you come on and do it and

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Speaker 1: come down to the transit center.

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Speaker 2: When are you coming? When are you coming?

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Speaker 1: My people will be in touch. Will you guarantee my security?

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Speaker 2: My secure? I got you, I got you guys looking

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Speaker 2: talk to him. But mister help. The other piece that

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Speaker 2: I have for you is this is Actrocincy.

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Speaker 1: This is what all this to give me homework.

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Speaker 2: You better read it too.

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Speaker 1: I will be I know who you learned from? Games

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Speaker 1: and games?

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Speaker 2: So who was his? Who was his college roommate? Uh?

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Speaker 2: Was that you?

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Speaker 1: Judge? Robert Franklin was a roommate of mL King of

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Speaker 1: nineteen forty eight more houses?

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Speaker 2: Do you question in my civil rights activity?

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Speaker 1: Merit? I don't believe in the.

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Speaker 2: Well you die? Well, why in the world when we're

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Speaker 2: gonna break that up, let's break it up with time.

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Speaker 2: So tell them to stop f and when iris really

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Speaker 2: we're doing better? Got you?

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Speaker 1: You got me yours? Thank you? We have to think

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Speaker 1: God Bless America.

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Speaker 2: God Bless America.

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Speaker 1: Seven hundred W l W