1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Eight eleven here on the Morning show on seven hundred WLW. 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: We do this every single Thursday at this time we 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: get together. You hear him on better than two hundred 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: and seventy five stations syndicated nationwide, and we're happy that 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: his home base is right here in the Buckeye State 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: and Cincinnati, Ohio. Talking about our friend Gary Sullivan. Happy 7 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: New Year, my friend. 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 2: Well, happy New Year to you. Tom. How you doing 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: doing great? How about you? I'm doing really really well. 10 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: I hope your holiday went well. 11 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 2: It went great. Do you have a lot of family time? 12 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: I sure did, and it was a fantastic Hope you 13 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: did too, Yep, sure did. Okay, we've been talking and 14 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people talk all the time about New 15 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: Year's resolutions, right, and we were talking the other day 16 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: that seventy nine percent of those has to do with 17 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: people getting in better physical shape. 18 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, A lot about health right now, Yes it is. 19 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: But look, there's also some New Year's resolutions you can 20 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: have with your home and talk about regularly. There is 21 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: no bigger investment for most of us out there than 22 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: what we invest in our homes, and so you want 23 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: to keep them in tip top shape. Let's start with 24 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: the most basic thing we need in life besides air, 25 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: and that would be water. 26 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 3: Well, that ties into the health thing also, tom is 27 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 3: you know in a lot of parts and it's been 28 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 3: in the news over the years, you know, a number 29 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 3: of years back with flint, Michigan and everything. How safe 30 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 3: is our water? And I want to say upfront, some 31 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 3: of the most safe water in the United States is 32 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 3: right here in the Great six sinety area. It's wonderful water, 33 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 3: but it's very hard water. Lots of limestone, you know, 34 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 3: limestone's good for racehorses and bourbon. 35 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: That's so good for our home. 36 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, you're right about that. Okay. We hear all 37 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: the time about water softeners, right, and there are some 38 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: that you salt, there are some that don't. 39 00:01:59,760 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: Right. 40 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: Did you walk us through sort of the differences if 41 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: you're thinking about a water softener here in twenty twenty six, yep. 42 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 3: So there's three water quality products out there. There's salt 43 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 3: free water softeners. You may have heard it advertised. That's 44 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 3: very appealing to somebody that doesn't want to carry fifty 45 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 3: pounds bags of salt down into the basement. 46 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: Which I do all the time. 47 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 3: So do I And also there's parts of the country 48 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 3: now that have brine restrictions. In other words, that salt 49 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 3: flushes out the system, okay when it collects hard water deposits, 50 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 3: and that brine goes down into the sewerage system which 51 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 3: goes into the waterways. And there's some people different parts 52 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 3: of the country now I have some brain restrictions. So 53 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,839 Speaker 3: that's one and I'll explain the difference between the two. 54 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 3: And the other one is the one you and I 55 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 3: are used to, the water softener that you put the 56 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 3: salt in the big salt tube. 57 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: And away you go. Now, the whole thing what a 58 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: water softener is is it takes. 59 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 3: Out or eliminates hard water that's the minerals in the water. 60 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 3: So the salt free is not really a water softener, 61 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 3: so it's not really taking out hard water deposits. What 62 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 3: it's doing is the sult free softeners actually removed the 63 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 3: They change the molecular structure of the minerals in the water, 64 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 3: which allows it to pass. 65 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: Through you know, your water heater, your shower and everything. 66 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 3: And what they've done is they've charged the hard water 67 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 3: particles so that it does not stick on metal surfaces. 68 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 3: The salt free or that's the salt free, the salt type. 69 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 3: It starts kind of collecting those, Okay, it's not really 70 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: charging them. So when you put the salt in there, 71 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 3: it's removing the hard ware deposits. It's really the best 72 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 3: soft water. It's actually giving you soft water, good for 73 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 3: your skin, good for your clothes, good for your water here, 74 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 3: good for your showers. It's it's soft water. It's removing it, 75 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 3: and then the salt flushes it out. 76 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 2: Of the system. 77 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 3: Okay, a lot of people when they get salt in 78 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 3: a system, they're they're they're they're afraid that they're going 79 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 3: to be ingesting salt. It's not that's going down the 80 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 3: i'll say sewer, septic whatever. It's kind of removing it. 81 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 3: It allows the soap to lather better. It really is 82 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 3: eliminating the hard water. And again that's salt free. It's 83 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 3: just charging the particles in there. It's keeping the hard 84 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 3: water from sticking on glass, on metal. It's just allowing 85 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 3: that hard water to not adhere to something in your 86 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 3: plumbing system. It's going right down the drain, but you 87 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 3: don't get the benefits of the i'll say, good. 88 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 2: For your skin, good for your clothes, your hair. Yeah, 89 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 2: that type of thing. So that's the two main differences. 90 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 3: Then there's a third one and it's not a water softener, 91 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 3: and that's a product. A lot of people get very confused. 92 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 3: They think, well, water softener is really bringing up the 93 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 3: quality of water, and it is from a hardness standpoint. 94 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 2: But a reverse osmosis, I don't know if you have 95 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 2: one of those in your home or not. 96 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 3: Those are usually point of use, like underneath the kitchen 97 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 3: sink or in the bathroom. And what it does is 98 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 3: a company will come and they will test for chemicals 99 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 3: in your water. Like I said, in the Cincinnati area, 100 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 3: we got pretty good water. But you may be surprised. 101 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 3: There may be maybe you're someone that doesn't want fluoride 102 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 3: in your water. Maybe in olders areas you have a 103 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 3: lot of lead pipes that will test for lead. You know, 104 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 3: you're receiving good water, but then as it goes through 105 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 3: an old plumbing system, by the time you drink it, 106 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 3: it's not so good. So they'll test for lead, they'll 107 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 3: test for fluoride, they'll test for chlorine chlorine, And that's 108 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 3: what a reverse osmosis is. It goes through like three 109 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 3: if you install one, it'll go through like three sets 110 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:26,559 Speaker 3: of filter and it'll actually filter out those different chemicals. 111 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 2: That are in your water. 112 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 3: So that's totally different from the water softener. So there's 113 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 3: really two that you need to pay attention to. One 114 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 3: is the water softener that's for hardness, like over in 115 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 3: the Milford area. 116 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 2: Very very hard water. 117 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 3: A lot of heating elements go out because of the 118 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 3: hard water, and probably a lot of showers don't look so. 119 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 2: Good because of the hard water. 120 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 3: But get your water tested and just see how hard 121 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 3: it is, and when you're there, do a test on 122 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 3: the actual chemicals in the water, and then you can 123 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 3: make a decision if you want to do one nune 124 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 3: or both of them. 125 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: So it sounds like, correct me if I'm wrong here, 126 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: But it sounds like if you're really interested in the 127 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: healthiest possible water just in one particular area, and you're 128 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: talking about this reverse osmosis, that would really be the 129 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: focal point. It sounds like, if I hear what you're saying, 130 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: where you might clean food and all those kinds of 131 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: things would be in the kitchen. 132 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: Right right, I would say probably ninety percent of them 133 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 3: are put right on the kitchen. Some of them have 134 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 3: to have another spout through a granite countertop. Yeah, a 135 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 3: lot of people don't like doing. I think it was 136 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 3: Culligan about seven eight years ago. They came up with 137 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 3: a system where it's bluetooth. There's a switch and it 138 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 3: literally shuts the water supply going straight up from the 139 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 3: pipes and it sends it through the osmosis system and 140 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 3: out the spout. 141 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 2: Bottom line there, not to confuse anybody, is you don't 142 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 2: have to drill through the countertop. Okay, so that, but. 143 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 3: The kitchen areas certainly tom where you want to put it, 144 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 3: you know, And quite honestly, it's just like a breed 145 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: a water filtering system on steroids. 146 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: Okay. 147 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: I want to get back to something you said a 148 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: minute ago about some of the stuff that would go 149 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: into say the sewage and then into some waterways. Most 150 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: people are on some kind of sewage system. There are 151 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: some of us who are septic. You touched on that 152 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: for a minute. If you are someone who has a 153 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: septic system, does this stuff mess that up? 154 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: Well, it's so diluted, I would say no. 155 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 3: I mean, it's not really a reason to totally walk 156 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 3: away from the salt type water softeners. But I also 157 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 3: want to say it depends on how much water you 158 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 3: actually use. And again that's why it's really good to 159 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 3: work with somebody to do those studies. Like I was 160 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 3: in a home depot the other day and they got 161 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 3: a home water softener for a thousand bucks on the shelf. 162 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: Install it yourself, but I. 163 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 3: Really recommend working with a plumber or a professional where 164 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 3: they can really give you what's best for you. I 165 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 3: think that's what I want to give everybody a shout 166 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 3: out is let's do it right. Let's address all the needs. 167 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 3: Let's address the chemicals, Let's address the minerals. Let's address 168 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 3: how much water you're using. Let's dress how. 169 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: Long that water softener is going to last. 170 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 3: I've had both in my home and the ones over 171 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 3: the shelf. You're probably gonna get about seven years out 172 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 3: of just by the mechanics of it. 173 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 2: And maybe your better brands. 174 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 3: You might get fifteen twenty years out of it, right, 175 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 3: and they're probably double the price. But I'll tell you 176 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 3: when I switched mine out, and this has probably been 177 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 3: about eight years ago, now, I could instantly. 178 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 2: Tell the difference. There's no doubt there was a pig difference. 179 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 3: So really, I think the step number one is if 180 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 3: you're always complaining that it's so hard to clean the shower, 181 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 3: there's water deposits, there's water spots on the glasses, on 182 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 3: the shower doors, on this that get the water tested. 183 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 3: It doesn't it doesn't cost you anything. Just let's find 184 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 3: out what's in the water. And especially if you have 185 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 3: you know, you were talking like or I was talking 186 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 3: about over and over in the Milford area, right, very 187 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 3: hard water. But there's also some older century type palms, 188 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 3: and I don't know what type of service line of 189 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 3: water you have coming into that home. 190 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of pipes you have in 191 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: that home. 192 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 3: And if there are lead pipes, and there's still plenty around, 193 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 3: you may have some lead in those pipes, not coming 194 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 3: from the municipality, but coming from your own home exactly. 195 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 3: So let's find out what's in the water. It doesn't 196 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 3: mean everybody has to have one. We were talking about 197 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 3: New Year's resolution and healthy water. 198 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 2: There it is. Let's find out what's in the water. 199 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 2: Let's do that. Let's find out what's in the water 200 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 2: and take some action. If it's bad news, it's great stuff. 201 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: Gary, you are the best my friend again, Happy New 202 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 1: Year and thank you for your expertise. This is great stuff. 203 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 2: Thank you, Tom. Look forward to next week. 204 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: Okay, buddy Gary Sullivan. 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