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Speaker 1: First out of the gate, Drake Perry is with me,

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Speaker 1: And and uh it is that time again for his program,

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Speaker 2: Right, Yes, that's right, Chip, Okay, where are we.

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Speaker 4: We're going to be at Mad Tree Brewing in Oakley

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Speaker 1: Okay, and this is the fly Fishing Adventure And every

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah. So they basically showcased the best fly fishing

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Speaker 1: How the hell they get to be dangerous ordinance to

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Speaker 3: I always tell people, it's just like a derned oil

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Speaker 3: Back in the thirties, I think this followed along with

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Speaker 3: The Trump administration in the ATF did away with that, Ohio,

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Speaker 3: we're asking them to make the subtressor and whatever else

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Speaker 3: you want to call it a silencer, a muffler or whatever,

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Speaker 3: uh out of dangerous ordinance in Ohio common sense, like

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Speaker 3: you just said, it doesn't do anything by itself.

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Speaker 1: Right right, And you know, I realized that they are

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Speaker 1: see that as uh So if it if if this

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Speaker 3: Yes, you still have to do all the federal paperwork.

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Speaker 3: And there's there's various ways to go about getting them,

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Speaker 3: whether you do it uh as an individual, or you

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Speaker 3: establish a trust to do it, and then the suppressor

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Speaker 3: pass that along if you die that kind of thing. So,

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Speaker 3: a under hoops. If the Federals ever remove it from

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Speaker 3: the National Forums Act and totally deregged, Ohio would be

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Speaker 3: already okay with that if we get it out of

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Speaker 3: within a bud okay, pretty fast for legislation that is.

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Speaker 1: Pretty so fast, especially when it's got to be you know,

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Speaker 3: This, you know, yeah, anything to do with the gun

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Speaker 3: doesn't move that quickly. I think think he established good

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Speaker 2: Okay, good.

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Speaker 1: So you mentioned something else to me before we got

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Speaker 2: Bring me back up to date on that.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and this is a little slightly more complicated,

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Speaker 3: and it really comes out of gun range and gun

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Speaker 4: It's sent.

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Speaker 3: It built two seventy three, and basically it will. What

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Speaker 3: it does is provide civil immunity to gun stores, ranges, retailers,

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Speaker 3: and even police that might store firearms for someone else

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Speaker 3: you do an FFL transfer from you to them, or

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Speaker 3: are they simply going to take possession and support for you?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 1: And this is four individuals that maybe they go on

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Speaker 3: Right on vacation they're moving, or if they're in a personal.

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Speaker 2: Health cris okay, all right.

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Speaker 3: Throw it out in a way. The civil liability just

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Speaker 3: says that when the when the store of the retailer

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Speaker 1: Oh jeez, okay, well I guess well we got we

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Speaker 1: got to hit the road here, Larry. But I appreciate

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Speaker 1: you keeping me up to date, because I mean, that's

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Speaker 2: So I appreciate the time this morning.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 2: Since then.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I I've never met Sterling, have you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Very nice guy, is he?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: A little unusual, But then again, all I listened to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely he he's high maintenance, kind of.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, if you're a catfishman and you you know, and

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Speaker 1: which will aim to protect trophy catfish populations, specifically in

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Speaker 1: think is his name. I'm gonna get him on because

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Speaker 1: this is pretty darned interesting and something that the catfish

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