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Speaker 2: Trin City's News Talk AM eleven thirty and one three

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Speaker 2: I always appreciate those conversations with TV. They always fly by.

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Speaker 2: If you missed it, be sure to check out the

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Speaker 2: podcast available on the iHeartRadio app. A little bit later

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Speaker 2: on this hour, I'll get to this ridiculous clip of

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Speaker 2: Governor Tim Walls. There's a couple of things that are noteworthy. One,

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Speaker 2: Governor Tim Walls is very worried about the impact of

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Speaker 2: tariffs on the state's soybean industry.

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Speaker 1: I gotta laugh at that.

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Speaker 2: Also, Walls says that Donald Trump is a bad businessman.

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Speaker 2: You can't make this stuff up, guys, you really can't.

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Speaker 2: Let's go here though, a coalition of city leaders, including

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Speaker 2: the mayors of Minnesota, Minnesota's four largest counties, they lobbied

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Speaker 2: again yesterday for a change to state law that's not

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Speaker 2: going to happen, but that would allow local municipalities to

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Speaker 2: set their own gun regulations.

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Speaker 1: It's all political grandstanding.

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Speaker 2: I have another example of this from dfller Emma Greenman

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Speaker 2: yesterday during what was a Minnesota House Fraud Committee hearing,

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Speaker 2: wherein she does this verbal dance, excuse wordplay to try

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Speaker 2: to bring in the argument about how she wishes that

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Speaker 2: they were talking about gun control and gun reform and

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Speaker 2: not voter fraud.

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Speaker 1: It was very bizarre.

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Speaker 2: I don't know who it was supposed to be playing

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Speaker 2: to because the local media cover didn't talk about it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you'd either have to be in the room

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Speaker 2: or you'd have to be watching online, of which a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of people weren't.

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Speaker 2: So I don't make it too far ahead of myself though,

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Speaker 2: so as a PAC news conference inside the state capitol,

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Speaker 2: Saint Paul Mayor Melvin Carter, Minneapolis Man Baby Mayor Mom Jeans,

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Speaker 2: Jacob Frye, working off of a story here from Fox nine,

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Speaker 2: Rochester Mayor Kim Norton, the Bloomington mayors, several mayor and

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Speaker 2: twin city suburbs all drafting gun control ordinances that can

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Speaker 2: only take effect that the legislature repeals the statute known

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Speaker 2: as the Preemption Law. Covered this on the show recently.

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Speaker 2: The preemption law, first passed in the nineteen eighties, prohibits

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Speaker 2: municipalities from passing local ordinances that conflict a conflict with

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Speaker 2: the state wide firearm regulations. Now, just days after the

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Speaker 2: annunciation church shooting. These same mayors held the similar press

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Speaker 2: conference the Capitol demanding the legislature either pass assault weapons

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Speaker 2: ban or lift the preemption law to allow for more

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Speaker 2: gun control. Wasn't they'd be better served complaining and criticizing

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Speaker 2: Governor Tim Walls for not calling a special session and

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Speaker 2: instead defaulting to town halls, of which I don't think

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Speaker 2: any have been scheduled to talk about guns. Then they

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Speaker 2: would having this press conference and asking for something to

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Speaker 2: be done that most everybody says is not going to happen.

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Speaker 2: Before I get to more of this article, let's go

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Speaker 2: to the iHeartRadio app Talkbacks, brought to you by Lindahl Realty,

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Speaker 2: a friend of the show. Sheila has a comment, and

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Speaker 2: a a relevant one at that.

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Speaker 3: The irony about gun regulations by local governments is that's

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Speaker 3: the exact reason why we have this sec amendment. It's

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Speaker 3: not for hunting, it's not for protecting yourself from intruders.

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Speaker 3: It's protecting yourself from a tyrannical government.

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Speaker 2: And as we've talked about with Rob Dorr from the

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Speaker 2: Minnesota Gun Owners Caucus, if they were to, let's just say,

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Speaker 2: for the sake of argument, they lifted this preemption law

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Speaker 2: and the various cities went and made these changes. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you would end up with this ridiculous hodgepodge of gun

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Speaker 2: control measures that would dramatically impact individuals' right to keep

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Speaker 2: And they don't care. They know this isn't going to pass.

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Speaker 2: They know these ordinances are a waste of time. This

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Speaker 2: is all just grandstanding. It is all political theater. Carter

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Speaker 2: said in Saint Paul, the council, I'm sorry, colouncil, it's

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Speaker 2: the council there too. They're going to introduce an ordinance

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Speaker 2: this week on gun regulations contingent on the repeal of

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Speaker 2: the preemption law. The measure would implement citywide bands on

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Speaker 2: assault weapons, binary triggers, high capacity magazines, ghosts guns, along

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Speaker 2: with other policies such as restricting firearms in public spaces

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Speaker 2: like parks, libraries, and recreation centers. So they want to

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Speaker 2: make more easy targets. Apparently Mayor Fries of the Minneapolis

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Speaker 1: Ordinance that he would sign immediately.

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Speaker 2: There's also elections going on too, which is probably the

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Speaker 2: Representative Paul Navatny said his caucus would not be interested

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Speaker 2: law is important to keep there from being a ah

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Speaker 2: we feel the second Amendment should not change depending on

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Speaker 2: acknowledged that repealing the preemption law could theoretically lead some

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Speaker 2: municipalities to loosen their gun regulations also if they were

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Speaker 2: to choose to do so. But again, this is all

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Speaker 2: just a colossal waste of time. There are elections taking place,

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Speaker 2: political theater.

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Speaker 1: That's all that it is. None of this is going

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Speaker 2: I wish, and again I'm just pyeing the sky dreams,

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Speaker 2: but I wish that this factored into the calculus of

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Speaker 2: individuals when they go and vote, Like the amount of

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Speaker 2: time being wasted by the elected officials on garbage like this,

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Speaker 2: on political theater like this drafting Gordon and says taking

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Speaker 2: votes when you could be spending your time doing you know,

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Speaker 2: other things relating to the actual daily concerns of the

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Speaker 2: Twin Cities as a whole, the decline in businesses, the

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Speaker 2: continued crime.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the list goes on and on.

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Speaker 5: This is all misseddirection. Property taxes all over the metro

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Speaker 5: area are going up because they've mismanaged the money, and

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Speaker 5: he thought that COVID money they were getting was going

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Speaker 5: to be permanent. This thing about pounding the drums for

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Speaker 5: guns and gun control is just missed direction. Bloomington just

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Speaker 5: raised their thing almost ten percent property taxes.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, John, say, I'm confused.

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Speaker 6: Is it Jacob fry Man baby mayor mom Jeans or

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Speaker 2: Can you clear that up for us Minneapolis banbaby mayor

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Speaker 2: mom Jeans, Minneapolis man baby mayor mom Jeans.

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Speaker 1: It's almost second nature to me. I can understand why

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Speaker 1: people get confused, though.

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Speaker 2: But thank you both for the comments from the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, continue with the theme of guns, although

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Speaker 2: you'll be surprised as to why. From Channel five just

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Speaker 2: three weeks to election day, voter fraud and efforts to

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Speaker 2: stop it were the big topic of discussion at the

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Speaker 2: Oversight Policy Committee asked some point of questions about the

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Speaker 2: criminal case revolving Ronnie Williams and Lorraine Lee Colmbs. We've

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Speaker 2: are not familiar, federal prosecutors said, during the twenty one

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Speaker 2: out hundreds of fraudulent voter registration applications in thirteen Minnesota counties.

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Speaker 2: Gubernatorial candidate and Representative Kristin Robbins out of Maple Grove said,

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Speaker 2: there doesn't seem to be a check when this group

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Speaker 2: course for the government under Tim Walls. Court documents filed

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Speaker 2: in June say Williams and Combs filled out the forms

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Speaker 2: and that an unnamed foundation paid for them. Prosecutors say

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Speaker 2: Motives Authority say it was all about the money, guys,

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Speaker 2: all about the money. Yeah, but what about the individuals

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Speaker 2: who paid for the fraudulent voter registration applications. Minnesota Secretary

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Speaker 2: told the panel, this is not a case about fraudulent

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Speaker 2: referred to law enforcement for prosecution and conviction. He notes

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Speaker 2: that local elections officials notice the irregularities in the paperwork

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Speaker 2: and notified authorities, which is a lot better than DHS

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Speaker 2: and stabilization services. Now, after the meeting, DFL members say

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Speaker 2: investigate these kind of irregularities. Representative Dave Pinto DFL out

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Speaker 2: of Saint Paul said, I mean, in this committee, we've

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Speaker 2: had some people. The press has identified nothing through this

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Speaker 2: committee process at all. Of course, we want to make

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Speaker 2: sure our elections are secure as possible and there is

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Speaker 2: got discussed quite a bit now. Channel five left out

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Speaker 2: some of the spicier details. I'm going to get into

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Speaker 2: those next. DFL Representative Emma Greenman, who did this word

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Speaker 2: well from the iHeartRadio app. It's all coming up on

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Speaker 2: Twin City's News Talk Am eleven thirty and one three

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Speaker 2: hearing Bill Glawn at center the American Experiment was actually

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Speaker 2: Walsh has a piece up now an American Experiment dot

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Speaker 2: org high school mock election to be held in a

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Speaker 1: What could go wrong? You can legally do this.

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Speaker 2: There's a law that was put into place that says,

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Speaker 2: for training purposes doing that thing with my fingers, which

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Speaker 2: I am, students can learn collections during actual election cycles

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Speaker 1: But speaking of schools.

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Speaker 2: And teachers, we all remember that one teacher in the

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Speaker 1: It in a really big way.

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Speaker 2: so Bill GLn writes. The House Fraud and Prevention State

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Speaker 2: Agency Oversight Committee met at the Capitol in Saint Paula yesterday.

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Speaker 2: We had a representative Walter Hudson and studio fantastic conversation

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Speaker 2: with Walter yesterday. If you missed it, we should check

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Speaker 2: this meeting. We have audio of him to share coming

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Speaker 2: up as well. The fraud examined was voter registration fraud.

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Speaker 2: The state agency overseen was the office of the Secretary

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Speaker 2: of State Steve Simon. Committee chair Kristin Robbins conducted the meeting.

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Speaker 2: Now they got into the story that I showed shared

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Speaker 2: number of hypotheticals where an ineligible voter could slip through

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Speaker 2: an honor based system. If an illegal alien wants to

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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact. We play it. Go ahead

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Speaker 2: So Minnesota Elections Director Paul Lnnell admits that illegal aliens

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Speaker 1: They're on the system. Is that correct, mister.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because what Representative Anderson got before that was is just.

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Speaker 2: What also became clear is that the recent fraud was

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Speaker 2: Had the fraudsters been more clever, a different results may

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Speaker 2: I mean, these all sound like similar concerns and arguments

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Speaker 1: It was a couple of construction.

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Speaker 2: Outfits that have been now accused of conducting fraud. I'm

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Speaker 1: Worked for a.

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Speaker 1: And we'll get into Governor Tim Walls too.

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Speaker 2: And there are individuals that have not announced that they

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Speaker 10: Hey, why would anyone be surprised that a DFL legislator

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Speaker 10: would want to deflect a conversation from fraud to gun

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Speaker 10: control wound under the DFL watch over the last eight years,

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Speaker 10: they've amassed over billions of dollars of fraud the state

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be speaking at an event coming up

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Speaker 2: as my father likes to say, teachable moments.

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Speaker 1: Right there are also gifts. I mean, never have we had.

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Speaker 2: A more stark example of where conservatives and liberals stand

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Speaker 1: The list goes on and on. So let's get into this.

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Speaker 2: So this was again yesterday's House Fraud Prevention and State

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Speaker 1: I had him edit the.

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Speaker 2: Audio a bit because she spends about ninety seconds actually

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Speaker 2: pivoting as a Minnesota gun Owners Caucus wrote yesterday in

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Speaker 2: the post with video, Greenman just hijacked the House Fraud Committee,

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Speaker 2: I've been looking forward to it all morning, all morning long,

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Speaker 2: Melinda is behind me in the room. She's been working

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Speaker 2: And that's what was happening yesterday when I was playing

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Speaker 1: What I will say is that.

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Speaker 11: What is frustrating is that we have an hour and

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Speaker 1: What is the system working?

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Speaker 12: Which is great.

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Speaker 11: I think it's great when we spend time on that

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Speaker 1: Rare that is somewhat.

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Speaker 11: I'm sorry, But the thing that is hard for me

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Speaker 1: I will say that the reason.

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Speaker 1: We stop here really quick. This should have ended right now.

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Speaker 2: Representative Kristin Robbins will end up cutting her off here

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Speaker 2: Fraud Prevention and State Oversight Committee meeting relating to voting fraud,

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Speaker 2: and the gun Owner's Caucus is right. She just decided

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Speaker 2: He's the one that's not calling a special session. He's

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Speaker 2: Governor Tim Wall says he's going to have these town

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Speaker 2: That's not how we decide issues like this. We have representation,

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Speaker 1: And again, who.

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Speaker 2: Is she talking to the people in the room on

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Speaker 11: And it feels like a committee on government oversight should

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Speaker 2: I'll say, see how clever she is. You know this

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Speaker 1: Make it makes sense.

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Speaker 11: That in the district court found that there were two

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Speaker 11: be talking about here.

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Speaker 1: Talk about strategies.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, why does she stop there? You know, we should

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Speaker 2: really be talking about abortion. You know, since we oversee things,

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Speaker 2: maybe we should talk about, you know, overseeing changing the

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Speaker 2: speed limit on our roadways. I mean, under that logic,

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Speaker 2: she could bring up whatever she wants, but that wasn't

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Speaker 2: what this was even about. And before I play more

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Speaker 2: of this audio from Representative Emma Greenland, let's go to

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Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 13: There as many times as she said during that speech,

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Speaker 13: and if I were to take a shot of alcohol,

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Speaker 13: I'd be bombed out of my mind.

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Speaker 2: Listen, we all have our crutches as a radio show host.

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Speaker 14: I do.

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Speaker 2: I try to identify them and remove them whenever I.

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Speaker 1: Do recognize them. But no, you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 2: It speaks to the level, in my opinion, it speaks

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Speaker 2: to the level of how uncomfortable she is in what

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Speaker 2: she's doing.

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Speaker 1: She knows she's grandstanding.

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Speaker 2: Those ums are usually just filling the space in her

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Speaker 2: mind as she formulates what she's going to say next,

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Speaker 2: knowing full well that she's probably going to be stopped

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Speaker 2: at any moment because she's getting off of track and

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Speaker 2: not focusing on what the actual meeting was about.

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Speaker 11: We saw, yes, last week, the startribuand did a report

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Speaker 11: on red flag laws of extremist protection orders and how

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Speaker 11: they are working, but they are not being consistently applied.

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Speaker 15: Representative Bringhan, do you have anything relevant to the fraud question,

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Speaker 15: because we'd like to get other members to start asking questions.

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Speaker 15: This is not a hearing on gun control, thank.

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Speaker 1: You, madam.

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Speaker 11: Actually my question is for you because it isn't hearing

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Speaker 11: on banning this weapons of war.

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Speaker 2: You see, she was waiting for that. She was absolutely

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Speaker 2: waiting to be to be stopped. I'm sure she had

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Speaker 2: it all scripted out. She knew that eventually the individual

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Speaker 2: leading the voter frog committee hearing was going to say

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Speaker 2: you can't be doing what you're doing, and she already

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Speaker 2: had teed up where she was going to go next.

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Speaker 11: It also is not a hearing on fraud, and so

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Speaker 11: when we talked about we talked about two prosecutions. We

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Speaker 11: could talk about the fleet farm prosecution of straw purchasers

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Speaker 11: and guns that are illegally sold in our communities.

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Speaker 1: What I'm asking for you is when we.

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Speaker 11: Think about the issues that this committee covers, right, we

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Speaker 11: talk about fraud and government oversight, and this committee hearing

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Speaker 11: is a good example of when we look at places

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Speaker 11: where government oversight we want to take a closer look at.

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Speaker 11: So my question for you is, ken we have a

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Speaker 11: hearing where we talk about the government oversight of our

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Speaker 11: red flag laws, of our straw purchasers, is that something

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Speaker 11: that we can put on the agenda.

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Speaker 15: Thank you, Metam, Chair, Thank you Represent Greenman. I'm open

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Speaker 15: to ensurings on any topic. I would say that that's

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Speaker 15: more the jurisdiction of the Public Safety Committee.

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Speaker 1: And I really want to get to the questions at hand.

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Speaker 15: So I appreciate your comments, and I'm sure thank you

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Speaker 15: one final thank you.

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Speaker 16: Thank you.

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Speaker 11: I appreciate that. And I think this is the jurisdiction

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Speaker 11: of the Elections and Local Government Committee, So I know

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Speaker 11: this committee does a lot of things that are the

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Speaker 11: jurisdiction of human services of elections. What I think we're

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Speaker 11: doing here is highlighting the places where we have at

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Speaker 11: where the public has asked this.

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Speaker 1: To look deeper.

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Speaker 11: And I will say that I think the issue of

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Speaker 11: gun violence prevention, which our leaders are talking about, which

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Speaker 11: sixty percent of minisonants want us to cover, is just

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Speaker 11: something that we should be doing in this committee that

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Speaker 11: looks at the jurisdiction of lots of committees.

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Speaker 2: Why are we bothering having these committee hearings at this

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Speaker 2: point in time?

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Speaker 1: Why bother.

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Speaker 2: Everybody knows where everybody stands. This is pointless. This is

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Speaker 2: a cossal waste of time. Look, I understand the process,

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Speaker 2: and I get it, and I know this is being

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Speaker 2: brought about and it's important and it should bring it

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Speaker 2: to people's attention, and it's getting out in the news

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Speaker 2: because this was covered. So there's value in having these.

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, why we're not in special

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Speaker 2: we're not in session. Walls, isn't calling a special session?

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Speaker 2: Relating to gun reforms? Republicans and Democrats are pretty firmly

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Speaker 2: way that where they stand on these issues.

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Speaker 1: With very little wiggle room. And the same thing rings

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Speaker 1: true when it comes to.

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Speaker 2: Those dflers, those Democrats in the Senate that aren't going

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Speaker 2: to go along with gun reforms because they're in moderate

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Speaker 2: districts and they don't want to get voted or primary

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Speaker 2: you know, out during election time. So what's the point

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Speaker 2: We could be saving so much time right now until

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Speaker 2: we get back to a better place in this country

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Speaker 2: where we can actually have a worthwhile debate and people

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Speaker 2: will be open minded and not acting irrationally and not

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Speaker 2: hijacking committee meetings just for the sake of grant standing

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Speaker 2: to get your ridiculous point across in a completely clumsy,

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Speaker 2: haphazard way, as Emma Greenman did. If that was my

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Speaker 2: representative and Republican doing something similar and speaking the same way,

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Speaker 2: I'd be a hard press to go and vote for

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Speaker 2: that person again. Then again, I also wouldn't want a

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Speaker 2: Democrat in charge, and I'm sure that's the way the

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Speaker 2: Democrats feel right now. So why are we bothering even

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Speaker 2: going through this charade. It's just all political theater. When

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Speaker 2: Walls called for the special session, he said he was

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Speaker 2: going to on the day of the Annunciation shooting. It

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Speaker 2: should have just taken place in the following week. Let

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Speaker 2: the ships fall where they may. I'm going to guarantee that,

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Speaker 2: for the most part, those votes would have gone down

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Speaker 2: exactly the same way they would go down if he

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Speaker 2: had called one today.

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Speaker 1: And yet we go through this entire rigamar role.

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Speaker 6: And.

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Speaker 2: Our discourse within our politics right now is in shambles,

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Speaker 2: and I just see these types of meetings as being

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Speaker 2: a colossal waste of everybody's time. Pee It is in May,

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Speaker 2: I'll share with you some more of what was said yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Here's Representative Christian Robbins again explaining about the two people

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Speaker 2: pleading guilty to the conspiracy to engage in voter registration, which.

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Speaker 1: Is what the meeting was actually about.

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Speaker 17: We are still trying to understand if these people, as

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Speaker 17: news reports flag, they admitted in some instances that they

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Speaker 17: were paid by the voter registration. So that brings me

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Speaker 17: to the to the point of this foundation. Clearly they

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Speaker 17: hired people as independent contractors. Two of them were found guilty.

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Speaker 17: This group, I've done a deep dive on their nine nineties.

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Speaker 17: Ninety nine percent of their budget comes from state grants,

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Speaker 17: So this is a group that the state is funding

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Speaker 17: and that then went out and did these voter registrations

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Speaker 17: and ha has you know they participated. The foundation didn't

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Speaker 17: participate in fraud, but they hired people with state dollars

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Speaker 17: and use that to create fake voter registration.

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Speaker 2: Now, also at the hearing, as I mentioned, Representative Walter

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Speaker 2: Hudson was in the studio with us yesterday and the

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Speaker 2: Secretary of State Steve Simon actually agreed with Walter Hudson's

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Speaker 2: premise that if people who just pled guilty to voter

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Speaker 2: fraud in Minnesota, of which Kristin Robbins was referring to,

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Speaker 2: we're just.

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Speaker 1: A bit smarter.

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Speaker 2: They could have faked same day voter voter registrations and

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Speaker 2: those votes would have actually counted.

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Speaker 13: Thank you, Madam, Chair First Secretary Simon. I would just

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Speaker 13: like to take the opportunity to publicly thank you for

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Speaker 13: what you mentioned earlier, which was coming out to my

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Speaker 13: district and sitting with kids in high school talking about

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Speaker 13: pre registration and the importance of voting. I think that

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Speaker 13: that was a very enriching experience for them, and it

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Speaker 13: was something that I personally enjoyed, So thank you for that.

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Speaker 13: It may sound like an odd way to start, but

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Speaker 13: my house has never been broken into. It's never happened.

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Speaker 13: But I still lock the doors at night, I still

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Speaker 13: close the windows, I still take many other steps to

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Speaker 13: minimize vulnerabilities. So it always strikes me when we had

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Speaker 13: these conversations about election integrity that we tend to reduce

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Speaker 13: it to the question of is their fraud and how

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Speaker 13: much is there? And that's a fascinating debate that we

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Speaker 13: can go back and forth on, but I think the

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Speaker 13: more important question is where are the vulnerabilities in the system.

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Speaker 18: So I'm going to pain a.

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Speaker 13: Little hypothetical here and tell me where I'm wrong. It

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Speaker 13: occurs to me that if this couple had been just

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Speaker 13: a little bit smarter, a little less sloppy, they could

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Speaker 13: have taken this same fabricated information and merely gone the

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Speaker 13: day of rather than trying to submit voter registration applications,

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Speaker 13: and had people for each other use the fabricated information

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Speaker 13: on the same day registration and maybe that gets flagged

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Speaker 13: down the road, But in the meantime they're handed a

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Speaker 13: ballot and they cast it, and once it's cast, it counts.

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Speaker 1: Where am I wrong? Mister, I'm secretary.

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Speaker 16: Thank you mena chair and representative. First of all, you're

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Speaker 16: completely right in drawing the hypothetical that you draw in

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Speaker 16: terms of or not the hypothetical, but your premise, which

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Speaker 16: is you got to protect the House every way that

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Speaker 16: you reasonably can.

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Speaker 18: I think the main purpose of the hearings is for

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Speaker 18: sound bites for election campaign commercials. That and trying to

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Speaker 18: persuade the voters that can be the only thing. My

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Speaker 18: other question is, though, how much does it cost voters

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Speaker 18: for these people to meet and accomplish nothing.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it costs anything extra relating to them

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Speaker 2: going down to the Capitol.

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Speaker 1: I think it's just rolled into.

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Speaker 2: The salaries of the representatives. I don't think it's costing

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Speaker 2: anything extra. I will say, though, I'd rather have my

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Speaker 2: representatives doing something more valuable with their time than engaging

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Speaker 2: in conversations with Democrats that aren't going to budge on

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Speaker 2: any of the any of the issues right now, which

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Speaker 2: just seems like a colossal waste of time. I mean,

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Speaker 2: look at what happened during the DFL Trifecta. The Democrats

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Speaker 2: ignored everything the Republican said, shut them out of committee

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Speaker 2: meetings like that, move forward with their agenda, and look

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Speaker 2: at where.

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Speaker 1: We are now.

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Speaker 2: We have two billion and with some estimates of six

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Speaker 2: billion dollars in fraud just to up and smoke under

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Speaker 2: a majority of what was passed during those years of

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Speaker 2: the DFL Trifecta.

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Speaker 14: Or John Moren Devin, this is Rick Commandel. Could she

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Speaker 14: be there just to try to torpedo Christian Robberts run

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Speaker 14: for governor and get some quick sound bites that they

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Speaker 14: could use against her. Christ Robbins seemed very professional.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, maybe I think the previous one is more

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Speaker 2: like it.

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Speaker 1: It's just political theater right now.

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Speaker 2: I think this was called in order to get to

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Speaker 2: the actual issue and to expose some of what was

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Speaker 2: exposed is.

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Speaker 1: It relates to voter fraud.

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Speaker 2: And some good did come out of this finding out

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Speaker 2: that illegals with driver's licenses passed by Governor Tim Walls

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Speaker 2: have gone and voted and can vote in certain circumstances.

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Speaker 2: So that's valuable information. I'm not saying that these meetings

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Speaker 2: are you know, don't carry any weight or value, but

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Speaker 2: that being said, just the majority of it, all right,

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Speaker 2: So let's go here. You know, some time before Representative

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Speaker 2: Tom Emmer, Governor Tim Wallas is worried about the impact

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Speaker 2: of tariffs on the states of soybean industry. Now there

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Speaker 2: is something to that, right. He says that that family

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Speaker 2: farms in the country are going bankrupt in the fastest

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Speaker 2: pace in five years. This was before China stopped purchasing

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Speaker 2: the export of soybeans from Minnesota. He's worried that China's

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Speaker 2: retaliation against American soybeans could be a never ending boycott.

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Speaker 2: No surprisier though Walls is siding with China on this

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Speaker 2: Trump is looking to level the playing field tied to

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Speaker 2: our trade agreements. You know, soybean producers by the way,

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Speaker 2: in the state. I did some research this morning before

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Speaker 2: the show started. In the wake of China not purchasing

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Speaker 2: and they usually do about a quarter of the soybean

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Speaker 2: purchases in the exports from Minnesota, these farms are now

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Speaker 2: asking other countries and having other countries purchase and exports

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Speaker 2: soybeans from US to offset that quarter of funding of

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Speaker 2: what China share was of the of the exports. This

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Speaker 2: story from Fox and iemy be left a little bit

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Speaker 2: because on the one hand it talked about Governor Tim Walls,

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Speaker 2: and then it said on the other side of the coin,

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Speaker 2: Trump wants some of the money raised by tariffs they

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Speaker 2: could help to struggling farmers. But farmers say that isn't

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Speaker 2: what they want. And then they have a quote from

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Speaker 2: a farmer. A bailout is like putting a band aid

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Speaker 2: on a bullet wound, said John Bartman of Illinois. And

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Speaker 2: they don't work. So it was a farmer, not farmers

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Speaker 2: they got the quote from, and it was an individual

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Speaker 2: from Illinois and not Minnesota. Me that does it make

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Speaker 2: Governor Tim Walls was on MSNBC yesterday and he made

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Speaker 2: this comment about President Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: Heard.

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Speaker 12: You know, the US sector, agriculture has talked about this,

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Speaker 12: Republican centers. I mean, there's consensus now what they're floating

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Speaker 12: as the solution, which is what they did in twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 12: the last time a trade war China has initiated. They

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Speaker 12: cut off sweating purchases and there was basically like welfare checks.

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Speaker 12: There was a bailout and it was just, you know,

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Speaker 12: they took the cash and they sent checks out, which

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Speaker 12: just seems like an insane thing to me, to kill

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Speaker 12: people's markets and then replace it with checks. I don't

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Speaker 12: even know if you can make people hold.

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Speaker 1: But do you think that.

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Speaker 12: Works like politically is it? Does that sort of ease

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Speaker 12: the pain?

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Speaker 4: I guess, well, well, look I do believe this. Our

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Speaker 4: folks want markets, they don't want these bailouts. This is

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Speaker 4: a short term fix. Like I said, this is going

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Speaker 4: to be year after year after year. The irony of

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Speaker 4: this whole thing is and I continue to say this,

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Speaker 4: of all of Donald Trump's failures and the biggest myth

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Speaker 4: that this guy understands business, he's an absolute abject failure

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Speaker 4: at business, and this whole policy around this is a failure.

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Speaker 4: And the only way to get off this is is

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Speaker 4: to let the markets go back. And the irony again

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Speaker 4: is calling Democrats socialist when I am begging for free

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Speaker 4: markets here to allow capitalism to work and allow our

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Speaker 4: markets to go Donald Trump is the one with government

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Speaker 4: interference and the damage that he's doing. Again, he is

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Speaker 4: strengthening China, He's strengthening you know, Argentina, make Argentina great again.

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Speaker 4: I guess they can just switch the hats. I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I have to chuckle at Tim Wolls calling Donald Trump

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Speaker 6: a bad businessman. Walls doesn't let a speech go by

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Speaker 6: where he doesn't remind us he's an aw shucks former teacher.

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Speaker 6: And last I look, math and reading scores are below

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Speaker 6: fifty percent and plummeting. So doesn't that make Tim Wolls

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Speaker 6: a bad teacher. I'm remembering something about glass houses and

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Speaker 6: throwing stones. If I'd had a better education, I might

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Speaker 6: remember what it was.

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Speaker 2: You don't even And again, Walls is really good at

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Speaker 2: bringing up arguments that the left aren't even using right now.

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Speaker 2: I mean, is that even something that's ending up on

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Speaker 2: signs of Donald Trump being a bad businessman.

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Speaker 19: Oh my gosh. Tim Walls, who I don't believe has

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Speaker 19: ever had a well, I guess he was a teacher.

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Speaker 19: I wouldn't exactly call that private industry, but he's never

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Speaker 19: been a businessman. I mean, all he's done is sell

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Speaker 19: a soul to China, and he has the nerve to make.

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Speaker 18: A like that have a good day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you too.

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Speaker 2: Representative Tom Emmer joins us next on Wednesday's News Talk