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Speaker 2: All right, let's get it going on this Monday night.
Speaker 2: If it's Monday, it must be Bengals Line, and that
Speaker 2: means three hours of conversation coming your way. We're gonna
Speaker 2: hear from the players and coaches will break it all down.
Speaker 2: At a twenty six to twenty loss to the Patriots yesterday,
Speaker 2: we'll look to the quick turnaround Thursday night Thanksgiving out
Speaker 2: against those Baltimore Ravens in the division. Dave, let's begin here.
Speaker 2: We knew going in, the expectation was things would be
Speaker 2: difficult without Jamar Chase and then early and unexpected benefit,
Speaker 2: the defense gets a pick six. It's ten nothing, you're thinking, okay,
Speaker 2: and unfortunately it's kind of the yin and yang of
Speaker 2: this season. Something good will happen, something negative will happen.
Speaker 2: It's just kind of the path that this season that
Speaker 2: we've seen it navigate from week one through. It balances
Speaker 2: out a good moment with a very frustrating moment into
Speaker 2: the very end on a drive with a chance to
Speaker 2: maybe win. And then know, and we sit here tonight
Speaker 2: dissecting twenty six to twenty in defeat.
Speaker 3: That sums it up very very well. I'm telling you
Speaker 3: that that was a kind of a heartbreaker. Really. I mean,
Speaker 3: they played the Patriots off their feet, they really did.
Speaker 3: It was it was anybody's football game. Like you said,
Speaker 3: they'd make a play, you know, turnover touchdown is about
Speaker 3: as good as it gets. Make a play like that,
Speaker 3: and then they'd give up a same type of thing,
Speaker 3: turnover touchdown or give up a big player, whatever the
Speaker 3: case may be. It was. It was the highs and lows,
Speaker 3: you know, like they talk about in the wild world
Speaker 3: of sports, is the thriller victory, the agony of defeat,
Speaker 3: and the highs and lows of it that goes along
Speaker 3: during the course that journey. And that's what the Bengals
Speaker 3: organized with yesterday. They played well enough to win, they
Speaker 3: really did in most intances, but you have to close
Speaker 3: it out, you know, you have to somehow figure out
Speaker 3: a way to make a play that ends the game,
Speaker 3: that finishes it off, and the Bengals are just having
Speaker 3: an extremely difficult time right now finishing.
Speaker 2: You think of that. I go back to the sequence,
Speaker 2: and it's not just offense defense, it's all three managing
Speaker 2: a positive or a negative that I think of the
Speaker 2: sweet pass from Flacco to Tinsley at four forty to
Speaker 2: go and they're in position, and then the special teams
Speaker 2: gives up the thirty six yard kick return, and then
Speaker 2: on third and eleven, the defense gives up the completion
Speaker 2: and it's just like h everywhere you turn, thinking you
Speaker 2: want to clap, then you just like shake your hands
Speaker 2: at frustration.
Speaker 3: I had a few friends that attended the game, and
Speaker 3: that's exactly what they said they were doing. You know,
Speaker 3: it was like they be on their feet going absolutely crazy,
Speaker 3: going berserk, and then you know, what the heck are
Speaker 3: we looking at? You know, they'd be wringing their hands.
Speaker 2: Uh it.
Speaker 3: There were a good number of big plays, and I
Speaker 3: at this point in time, I'd like to give some
Speaker 3: credit to Joe Flacco for sucking it up the way
Speaker 3: he did. I mean, this guy is a pros pro.
Speaker 3: There's there's no question about that. And and uh, you
Speaker 3: could tell that he was still in pain, he was
Speaker 3: still still fighting it. I you know, shoulder a c joint,
Speaker 3: you know, you don't you don't know exactly what it is,
Speaker 3: how severe it is. But separations. I've had a shoulder separation.
Speaker 3: There is no no picnic, man, it's no joke. There's
Speaker 3: a legitimate and serious pain there. And what throwing the football,
Speaker 3: it's on a throwing shoulder, you know, I mean, throwing
Speaker 3: the football under those conditions is really something else. I mean,
Speaker 3: he's uh, he's a tough dude. He's he's hard. Nos,
Speaker 3: There's there's no doubt about it. I mean, he's he's
Speaker 3: showing leadership both physically and mentally, you know, with his
Speaker 3: football team. And and I just can't can't pull together
Speaker 3: a victory for him though.
Speaker 2: That lost four in a row.
Speaker 3: Now, man, after beating the Pittsburgh Steelers thirty three, thirty one,
Speaker 3: they've lost four in a row. They lose by a point,
Speaker 3: they lose by five points, they lose by twelve to
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh gonna rematch, and then they lose by six. I
Speaker 3: mean if two of those games, yes, go the other way.
Speaker 3: We'd be talking about a horse of a different color.
Speaker 3: You know, you'd be talking about a football team with
Speaker 3: five wins, not three.
Speaker 2: Boy, And just think as you say that, if you'd
Speaker 2: found a way to win yesterday to get to four
Speaker 2: and seven, you get in theory, Joe back Thursday night
Speaker 2: against the Ravens who are in first at six and five,
Speaker 2: you've got two games left against them. I mean, if
Speaker 2: we had sat here in week one and you'd said
Speaker 2: to us, hey, I think by week eleven the division
Speaker 2: leader in the AFC North would be six and five, right,
Speaker 2: we would have said, what six and five? I think
Speaker 2: the six and five leads the division, and you're still
Speaker 2: chasing that. It's just so just missed opportunities along the way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that sums it up right there, missed opportunities. And
Speaker 3: this was a year that the AFC North was extreme.
Speaker 3: We win all. Let's face him. When you have the
Speaker 3: first place team after eleven weeks into the season with
Speaker 3: the six and five record, I mean that's very just
Speaker 3: a little bit above average, Matt says. And and that's
Speaker 3: the way the entire division is playing. You know, you
Speaker 3: can't sleep on Cleveland, Cleveland, will you know? Jump up
Speaker 3: and bite you in the butt. There's no question about that. Uh,
Speaker 3: you know, Baltimore and Pittsburgh right there fighting it out,
Speaker 3: little Yin and yang going on between those to those
Speaker 3: two clubs and the Bengals, man, it was such an opportunity.
Speaker 3: But when you look at it, the football God said, no,
Speaker 3: it's not gonna be this year for you guys because
Speaker 3: of the injuries. Man. I mean they just said, you know,
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to deal with injuries. You're gonna have
Speaker 3: to suffer through injuries. You're gonna have to fight through
Speaker 3: injuries as an organization, as a football team. And uh,
Speaker 3: you know, if you can do that and win the division,
Speaker 3: God bless you. You know you're you're a better football
Speaker 3: team than we thought.
Speaker 2: And Dave, nobody will nobody will say this Bengals defense
Speaker 2: obviously is the doomsday defense of the Steel Curtain, right,
Speaker 2: but in the last two weeks they've allowed nineteen and
Speaker 2: twenty And early in the season, had we sat here
Speaker 2: and said, hey, if they can only give up nineteen
Speaker 2: or twenty, they'll probably win the game. And that's another
Speaker 2: part of the frustration. The defense has actually looked at
Speaker 2: not great, but certainly there's progress being made the last
Speaker 2: two weeks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think Al Golden would agree with that. Lance.
Speaker 3: I think he would probably say, my defense is progressing,
Speaker 3: you know, Is it progressing as quickly as he had
Speaker 3: hoped or thought? No? Probably not if I think, definitely not.
Speaker 3: But you know, they've had their share of injuries as well.
Speaker 3: I mean, they're they're playing a couple of rookie linebackers
Speaker 3: in their four two five package now, you know, and
Speaker 3: they've had problems with the injury to the outside edge
Speaker 3: rush guys, and particularly Trey Hendrickson, who's, you know, if
Speaker 3: not the best, one of the best best pass rushers
Speaker 3: in the National Football League. And you lose a guy
Speaker 3: like Trey Hendrickson, a difference maker like that, it's going
Speaker 3: to hurt you, and it has hurt the Bengals.
Speaker 2: Let's pick it up with coach Zach Taylor after the
Speaker 2: game his thoughts on what transpired.
Speaker 4: Zach, the defense allowed nineteen points today, it was twenty
Speaker 4: last week.
Speaker 5: What progress do you see on that side of the ball.
Speaker 6: They're finding rhythm, you know, it's they're believing in each other,
Speaker 6: what we're doing, finding ways to get stops. Guys are
Speaker 6: stepping up and making plays. I love the communication from
Speaker 6: that group, and they're starting to get more and more confidence.
Speaker 6: You know, That's just that's how the world works. To
Speaker 6: have some success, you get more confidence. There's a lot
Speaker 6: of things today. I think that'll continue to build towards
Speaker 6: that as well, and we'll build on that moving forward.
Speaker 4: Jalen Davis has been part of this team for most
Speaker 4: of your tenure. He got an opportunity to play extended
Speaker 4: snaps today and I thought he played, well, what did
Speaker 4: you think of Jayleen?
Speaker 6: He's not afraid to go make a play, you know,
Speaker 6: and that's what you saw. He went after him, got
Speaker 6: a sack, did a great job fitting the B gap
Speaker 6: and getting a holding penalty one time that set him back,
Speaker 6: and so you just you see things. He's a competitor,
Speaker 6: he's got a high football IQ. He's not afraid to
Speaker 6: go make a play, and I saw that from JD today.
Speaker 4: I think there was a stretch where New England had
Speaker 4: ten straight plays in goal to go situation, so inside
Speaker 4: ten where the defense did not allow them to get
Speaker 4: in the end zone.
Speaker 5: What kind of a building block is that?
Speaker 6: That's character, I mean, that's that's character and toughness. And
Speaker 6: guys just doing their job and know one that other
Speaker 6: guys are gonna do theirs. And that's exactly how point
Speaker 6: out and proud of those guys that gave us a
Speaker 6: lot of momentum, you know. And they stopped him on
Speaker 6: the two and we didn't go score, but we were
Speaker 6: able to get the ball out to the forty and
Speaker 6: trying to flip the field. And so again I was
Speaker 6: proud of the effort on those that drive you're talking
Speaker 6: about with this defensive guys.
Speaker 4: Chase Brown ran for more than one hundred yards today.
Speaker 4: I don't think I'm back at top sixty against the
Speaker 4: Patriots defense this year. Do you feel like the running
Speaker 4: game now? You can safely say it's more or less
Speaker 4: turn the corner and it's pretty reliable.
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 6: Again, that speaks to the confidence. I think the whole
Speaker 6: group's got confidence in the run game. The guys up
Speaker 6: front are really coming off the ball, doing a great
Speaker 6: job there, communication backs, understanding where we're going to fit
Speaker 6: these balls. The tight ends are doing excellent job, and
Speaker 6: the perimeter receivers are bought in as well, and so
Speaker 6: we do have a lot of confidence for a run
Speaker 6: game right now. And we'll continue lean on.
Speaker 4: You didn't have Jamar Chase, and you lost T Higgins
Speaker 4: late in this game. Mitch Tinsley caught a touchdown pass.
Speaker 4: Andre yoc Bosch made some big catches. But how difficult
Speaker 4: is it offensively when you're essentially down to a couple
Speaker 4: of wide receivers.
Speaker 6: That's just that's the way it works. You got to
Speaker 6: find a way. No one wants to hear excuses. You
Speaker 6: got to put those guys in a position to be successful.
Speaker 6: I think their position coaches have been an excellent job
Speaker 6: preparing the next man up, problem solving on the move
Speaker 6: there as guys were playing a different position for the
Speaker 6: first time and run concepts that hadn't practiced. I thought
Speaker 6: our execution was still really at a high level and
Speaker 6: give us a chance to win the game.
Speaker 4: You seriously considered the possibility of Joe Burrow playing this week.
Speaker 4: How quickly would you like to have a decision made
Speaker 4: for the Thursday night game against Baltimore.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's got to be clarity, you know, in terms
Speaker 6: of just we're not physically practicing, we're walking through and stuff.
Speaker 6: But you'd like the quarterbacks step clarity. So Sooner wrote
Speaker 6: that later appreciate your time.
Speaker 2: Yep, thank you, dam Zach Taylor. After the game, we'll
Speaker 2: take a time out of come back here from Joe
Speaker 2: Flacco on what transpired yesterday, and we've got a whole
Speaker 2: lot to sort through between now and nine o'clock. Thanks
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Speaker 2: the rest of the way. Joe Flacco yesterday, the final
Speaker 2: numbers for the Bengals quarterback nineteen of thirty seven passing
Speaker 2: one to eighty three through the air, a sack, a touchdown,
Speaker 2: an interception, a quarterback rating of sixty three point two,
Speaker 2: and a dislocated finger. Yeah, let's pick it up with
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco after the game.
Speaker 7: I think we took we took our shots, and even
Speaker 7: within those shots, we had opportunities. We just didn't quite
Speaker 7: get it done. I mean, I just felt like they
Speaker 7: did a pretty good job all day of just kind
Speaker 7: of slowing us down, not allowing us to get into
Speaker 7: a rhythm. Even though we ran the ball well, we
Speaker 7: weren't able to kind of capitalize on that and get
Speaker 7: in a rhythm and and and convert some third downs,
Speaker 7: and you know, we'd get to midfield forty.
Speaker 8: Yard line and then we just kind of wouldn't be
Speaker 8: able to keep going.
Speaker 7: And it's probably it's there's always fault on us for
Speaker 7: not being able to make that happen. But at the
Speaker 7: same time, like I said, I think they just do
Speaker 7: a good job of of slowing you down and not
Speaker 7: allowing you to do that. And I thought our whole
Speaker 7: line played well, and they were just able to do
Speaker 7: what they do on defense and and and kind of
Speaker 7: not allow us to make any big plays and and
Speaker 7: then have to go the long way and we weren't
Speaker 7: able to do.
Speaker 3: It in the passing game that your kind of clear,
Speaker 3: your ahead of that and you have.
Speaker 8: To moment Yeah, well, I mean stuff happens throughout the
Speaker 8: course of the game. I mean it's a shame.
Speaker 7: I mean, I feel bad about the pick six but
Speaker 7: at the same time, I didn't see the guy and
Speaker 7: it's you know, it's one of those plays you want back.
Speaker 7: It's the simplest play in the world. Play action, look
Speaker 7: for two, check it down. I gave t all the
Speaker 7: opportunities and they just had the right coverage on And yeah,
Speaker 7: I mean, like.
Speaker 8: I said, you don't draw it up like that.
Speaker 7: When that happens, it's it's it's one of the simplest
Speaker 7: plays in football.
Speaker 8: So those are gonna hurt you.
Speaker 6: But how do you feel like you played overall?
Speaker 7: Just kind of like I talked about, there were some
Speaker 7: things that you know, where we started to kind of
Speaker 7: feel like we're going to go put a drive together
Speaker 7: and then just got slowed down. And I feel like
Speaker 7: the same same with me. I was never really quite
Speaker 7: able to get in that rhythm.
Speaker 8: And and.
Speaker 7: You know, and and complete as many balls as I
Speaker 7: would as I was as I would like to. It
Speaker 7: seemed like they did a good job of targeting and
Speaker 7: trying to.
Speaker 3: Take him, for sure.
Speaker 7: I think they do a good job of playing top
Speaker 7: down and just kind of you know, taking away some
Speaker 7: of the quick stuff by coming up and pressing, so
Speaker 7: you're not you're not able to get the ball out
Speaker 7: of your hands to them really quick. And then in
Speaker 7: situations they do a good job of playing top down
Speaker 7: with the eyes, with their eyes on the quarterback and
Speaker 7: having some help. Yeah, there were times they played man,
Speaker 7: but I think they were able to drop some other
Speaker 7: guys underneath. And I think with te specifically, you're always
Speaker 7: kind of shading his way and then trying to just
Speaker 7: throw off his rhythm, whether that's at the line of
Speaker 7: scrimmage or you know, holding your ground ten yards down
Speaker 7: the field with your eyes back on the quarterback and
Speaker 7: making it tough to kind of break leverage.
Speaker 5: How difficult or different is it running this offense without
Speaker 5: Jamar Chase Well.
Speaker 7: I think anytime you lose you know, not only one
Speaker 7: of the best players in your team, but one of
Speaker 7: the best players in.
Speaker 8: Football, you know you have you know, guys have to
Speaker 8: step up.
Speaker 7: But I think I think we still got a bunch
Speaker 7: of good players and it's a shame that we didn't
Speaker 7: do what we wanted to today, but I definitely think
Speaker 7: we're capable of it.
Speaker 9: Besides the Jamar distraction.
Speaker 8: Besides the Jamar distraction.
Speaker 10: This week, there's a lot of talk about Joe Burrow
Speaker 10: potentially playing.
Speaker 8: Zach said, you found out on Friday that you'd be
Speaker 8: definitely the started.
Speaker 5: Did that change preparation or anything like that for you
Speaker 5: this week?
Speaker 8: That was a challenge.
Speaker 7: The thing with my situation is, listen, I've played a
Speaker 7: lot of football and I probably wasn't gonna practice a
Speaker 7: lot this week anyway. You know, I might have got
Speaker 7: a couple of reps on Thursday that you know, wouldn't
Speaker 7: would have wouldn't have ended up mattering that much. So
Speaker 7: now that's just part of this business, is you know,
Speaker 7: getting ready for a game, and each week presents its
Speaker 7: different challenges.
Speaker 8: And you know Joe is you know, he's.
Speaker 7: Trying to feel out his body and get back on
Speaker 7: the field.
Speaker 8: So that's part of what you have to deal.
Speaker 6: With the last month.
Speaker 11: Is it almost cruel knowing a couple of different plays
Speaker 11: and this could look like a much different story.
Speaker 7: Well yeah, listen, I mean it's all about winning in
Speaker 7: this league, and you know, I've talked about it a lot.
Speaker 7: In order to get to that point. In order to
Speaker 7: win football games, everybody has to focus on their job
Speaker 7: and then the wins come and take care of themselves.
Speaker 7: And you know, I think a lot of I think
Speaker 7: you know, we've done a good job of doing that.
Speaker 7: We just haven't been you know, consistently good enough throughout
Speaker 7: sixty minutes. Uh. You know, you can see little things
Speaker 7: getting better here and little things getting better there, and
Speaker 7: we're just not producing wins with those things. It's frustrating, Yes,
Speaker 7: it is, especially now that we're sitting here and you
Speaker 7: look back on all those But like I've always said,
Speaker 7: when you're in the moment, you just got to continue
Speaker 7: to do your job little by little and look up
Speaker 7: at the end of the day and see what the
Speaker 7: results are. And the results haven't been what we want
Speaker 7: them to be. But I do think we've done a
Speaker 7: lot of good things in that meantime.
Speaker 10: Do you think that you'd be able to Thursday?
Speaker 8: I assume so.
Speaker 7: I mean, you never know with fingers, but I mean
Speaker 7: the fact that I was able to get out there
Speaker 7: and do it right now and stuff like.
Speaker 8: That, like yeah, I mean I literally like get my
Speaker 8: shoulder actually feels really good.
Speaker 7: I think my shoulder has done nothing but gotten better
Speaker 7: the last three weeks, and.
Speaker 8: Everything else, you know, feels great. So the last.
Speaker 3: Drive, you guys were lining up where you know, the
Speaker 3: leader more.
Speaker 7: Double always that last ride for your Yeah, listen, I
Speaker 7: mean I have all the confidence in the world and
Speaker 7: everybody that we throw out there, and I think you
Speaker 7: could see that. I think, you know, a different guy
Speaker 7: made a play on each one, you know, as we
Speaker 7: started moving down down the field, and you know, Mitch
Speaker 7: gets in, you know, the second to last drive and
Speaker 7: you know nothing he wasn't in, but you know, gets
Speaker 7: a chance on a go ball and wins. And you know,
Speaker 7: it's a shame because there are always positives in games
Speaker 7: like these, but when you don't win them, you know,
Speaker 7: it's hard to feel like it matters.
Speaker 8: So, uh, you know, that's that's why winning is such
Speaker 8: a big deal.
Speaker 7: It It can highlight you know, guys stepping up and
Speaker 7: doing good things in those roles, and since we weren't
Speaker 7: able to do it, you know, it kind of goes unseen.
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco after the game. Much more on Joe and
Speaker 2: what he's meant in his time here with the Bengals
Speaker 2: a little bit later on in the show as well.
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Speaker 2: the Patriots and the look ahead to Thursday night, Thanksgiving
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Speaker 2: Lance McAllister Dave Lapham Let's talk defense Geno Stone yesterday
Speaker 2: and Dave, as you referenced it, it's the much maligned
Speaker 2: at times Geno Stone had a big day yesterday. For
Speaker 2: all the criticism he has earned at times, he deserves
Speaker 2: the props of yesterday of a thirteen tackle performance, a
Speaker 2: pick six, solid tackling day was probably, I know it
Speaker 2: might be his best day as a Bengal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the thirteen tackles and a thirty two yard pick six.
Speaker 3: U that's that dog will hunt right there. Uh. He
Speaker 3: made a great play on the on the pick six.
Speaker 3: I mean he kind of baited him to throw that football,
Speaker 3: hung back there in a deep quadrant of the cover
Speaker 3: to his own defense, and then just turned it turned
Speaker 3: it on when he came downhill and picked that football off,
Speaker 3: and uh, nobody laid a finger on him. I mean,
Speaker 3: he he was in the end zone celebrating in the
Speaker 3: It was a it was a big moment in the
Speaker 3: football game for sure, And he did have a bunch
Speaker 3: of tackles, but he still missed some, you know. I
Speaker 3: mean it's like it's almost like when you're when you're
Speaker 3: having trouble tackling, you have to make about twenty because
Speaker 3: they're coming right at you. It seems like every player
Speaker 3: is like, I got to make another tackle? What's going
Speaker 3: on here? When is anybody else gonna get involved in
Speaker 3: this tackling action? But yeah, he's I think I think
Speaker 3: he's again. He's another guy. Al Golden. I was talking
Speaker 3: to him after the football game. He said, our guys
Speaker 3: are trying. Every single guy is still giving me everything
Speaker 3: he's got, and that's all I can ask for. You know,
Speaker 3: they want to win games, they want to play for
Speaker 3: their teammates, they want, you know, eleven people to be
Speaker 3: playing like one they you know, they do. They want
Speaker 3: to they want to play well, They want to do
Speaker 3: well for the city of Cincinnati, they want to do
Speaker 3: well for the fan base. Just ain't happening as as
Speaker 3: you mentioned during the broadcast, and I want to go
Speaker 3: through they come up with the two goal line stands.
Speaker 3: One results at no points, one results in a nineteen
Speaker 3: yard field goal.
Speaker 2: And I think it was the second one. You said
Speaker 2: you could hear playing his day the Bengals defensive booth
Speaker 2: next to you guys making a whole lot of noise
Speaker 2: in celebration of getting a huge stop at that time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was big, big stop. And they were they
Speaker 3: were on their feet, they were they were high five
Speaker 3: and high ten and they were. They were all all
Speaker 3: jacked up and thought there could be a big turning
Speaker 3: point in the game, which it could have been, but
Speaker 3: was not meant to be unfortunately.
Speaker 2: Let's let's pick it up after the game and hear
Speaker 2: from the man who had those thirteen tackles and the
Speaker 2: pick six. Here is Geno Stone.
Speaker 6: Gonna start off with, uh, your pick six?
Speaker 8: Who kind to take me back to kind of.
Speaker 4: What you saw on that play.
Speaker 12: We're just kind of in a you know, m a
Speaker 12: man defense and kind of just went empty. And I
Speaker 12: was reading the quarterback early seeing the free runner kind
Speaker 12: of just went over top, and you know, he th
Speaker 12: I kind of overthrew it and then I just took
Speaker 12: it from there.
Speaker 2: What didn't mean for you.
Speaker 13: To make a fool like that?
Speaker 8: And especially getting expands?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 12: Nah, I feel like I needed it, you know, just
Speaker 12: haf the past few weeks I had I feel like I,
Speaker 12: you know, I wasn't playing up to what I should
Speaker 12: be playing at. And I feel like, you know, today
Speaker 12: I showed what I'm capable of and who I really am.
Speaker 12: So I feel like I needed that. You say, take
Speaker 12: that play out of the equation. You still feel like
Speaker 12: it was a pretty solid game for you. Yeah, I
Speaker 12: mean I looked up. I think I got thirteen tackles.
Speaker 12: I think that's the most ever had in my career.
Speaker 12: So I mean I feel like I checked that box
Speaker 12: off and checked that other box off. So the other
Speaker 12: thing we did, we we did.
Speaker 8: We sent win, you know.
Speaker 12: Individual I mean, I feel good, but end of the day,
Speaker 12: I wanna win, and the the win is.
Speaker 10: Like you said, the most important thing, but the the
Speaker 10: gold line stands. I mean, how much couldn't that carry
Speaker 10: forward for this defense.
Speaker 9: As a as a whole.
Speaker 12: No, I mean I just feel like, you know, work,
Speaker 12: we're showing who our row identity is. I mean it
Speaker 12: it took a while. I took a lot, so I
Speaker 12: play we're going guys in the race, boss, and we're
Speaker 12: all just you know, playing Hart right though. I mean,
Speaker 12: I feel like you guys are flying around and you
Speaker 12: know we're owning uh up to all the things that
Speaker 12: we were mistakes that we had an early in season,
Speaker 12: and we're all just put together right now.
Speaker 6: I think that's happened to me that one that I'm now.
Speaker 12: Going, Uh, get your body ready. I know I'm hurting
Speaker 12: a little bit. You just got you get it ready.
Speaker 12: You know you got a short way. So I know
Speaker 12: the coach you're gonna get a good game plan for us,
Speaker 12: and to get get ready for the Ravers. You know
Speaker 12: the type of team they are is a ABC North,
Speaker 12: So tryta get ready for him.
Speaker 10: We got Joe Burrow coming back. The defense takes a
Speaker 10: step forward. Do you feel like you guys have a
Speaker 10: run in you even though it's been.
Speaker 12: Eight out of nine months. No, definitely, I mean we're
Speaker 12: right there. I mean, I play every game. We have
Speaker 12: a right there, so something that you can't count us out,
Speaker 12: especially gout with Joe Burro, like Joe Burrow. So I
Speaker 12: feel like, you know, the run we had last year,
Speaker 12: you just gotta start now.
Speaker 9: I was gonna say last year, does that give you
Speaker 9: guys something to lean on and look?
Speaker 12: Yeah, definitely, I mean definitely, And it's especially stressed we
Speaker 12: got coming up. It's all considered team, so it's gonna
Speaker 12: show what we're made up. So we definitely gotta get
Speaker 12: these games right now.
Speaker 9: They have talked about it.
Speaker 11: Can you walk me through the big early in the
Speaker 11: game to create momentum and make a big play.
Speaker 12: Yeah, nothing, I was just saying, it really just a
Speaker 12: man defense kind of just playing the post and uh,
Speaker 12: you know, right the quarterback's eyes and he kind of
Speaker 12: you know, overthrow the you know, tight end by a
Speaker 12: little bit, and uh, you know it's a man to
Speaker 12: pay for it.
Speaker 11: So yeah, when you get the ball in your head,
Speaker 11: I know you're thinking, but did it just open up
Speaker 11: for you in front of you?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 12: Kind of, I kind of you know, I'll try to
Speaker 12: skin you up all of our linemen because you know,
Speaker 12: usually you had to go to the sideline and someone
Speaker 12: usually takes an angle gets you out, so I really
Speaker 12: try to just keep up the middle first and then
Speaker 12: bounce it out and then all the guys did a
Speaker 12: great job blocking from me.
Speaker 9: So that's kind of all was happened. Yeah, you guys
Speaker 9: are in the winds business.
Speaker 11: But is today and encouraging for the defense despite the loss?
Speaker 9: Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 12: I mean I feel like we had a bunch of
Speaker 12: goal line stances and I mean what probably all gave
Speaker 12: him one touchdown and then the touchdown was kind of
Speaker 12: schemed up on us. We know what kind of where
Speaker 12: it came from.
Speaker 3: So h hatch off to them.
Speaker 12: But you know, I feel like we did a great
Speaker 12: job today the way we tackled and the way we
Speaker 12: flew around and played.
Speaker 11: You felt like they had the ball on the one
Speaker 11: yard line seven eight different times and couldn't score on
Speaker 11: you guys. What is it about this d defense today
Speaker 11: that it really clicked and you guys.
Speaker 5: Were hard to score on?
Speaker 12: Like I said, I mean, like I said earlier, we
Speaker 12: kind of just owned up to all the mistakes we
Speaker 12: had in the past, and uh, you know, owning everything
Speaker 12: that happen and then taking them forward and then taking
Speaker 12: the next step. I feel like a lot of guys
Speaker 12: that we said, like all the leaders we have in
Speaker 12: the group are leading all the younger guys and take
Speaker 12: taking everyone that's uh, you know that he's messing up
Speaker 12: with myself. We're all taking our next step and getting
Speaker 12: better at each week and each day.
Speaker 11: A lot of guys who are getting the first opportunity,
Speaker 11: who are showing up and making plays for this defense.
Speaker 11: How important is it that anybody who's called up one
Speaker 11: has to come in there and be.
Speaker 2: A difference man.
Speaker 12: No, it's definitely great. I mean it's the next man
Speaker 12: inntality all the time. This is how it's how the
Speaker 12: league works. You know, guys get hurt a lot of
Speaker 12: in this league. So uh, whenever your opportunity is called,
Speaker 12: you gotta get ready to go play. And uh, a
Speaker 12: bunch of guys that are thinking today, especially Jad, so
Speaker 12: he's gotta I say right now that just you know,
Speaker 12: cause came in and we had tip a beat. So
Speaker 12: I'm hats off to him and hats off to all
Speaker 12: the guys who played today and play We played hard.
Speaker 11: Rom If there's anybody in this room who knows what
Speaker 11: the challenge is Thursday night going to Baltimore winning, it's
Speaker 11: you from your time there. Do you feel like this
Speaker 11: team is close though, to kind of get that win
Speaker 11: and just kind of calumbing the water, so to speak?
Speaker 3: With the win?
Speaker 12: Yeah, definitely. I mean, I mean I feel I mean,
Speaker 12: we were right there every game.
Speaker 9: We've been right there.
Speaker 12: It's not like we haven't been there yet. So I mean,
Speaker 12: I feel like all it takes is, you know that
Speaker 12: the last go plays and we's got to finish.
Speaker 3: That's all.
Speaker 12: That's all it takes right now. And I feel like
Speaker 12: we got the guys in a group, especially, we got
Speaker 12: guys home back, so uh, I'm ready for I'm ready
Speaker 12: for those.
Speaker 2: That Geno stone after the game. The one thing that
Speaker 2: jumps out and back to our original theme of the
Speaker 2: yin and yang of all this is as many times
Speaker 2: as they made plays defensively, how many times did the
Speaker 2: Patriots target the middle of the field. The tight ends,
Speaker 2: who combined had ten catches, one hundred and fifty four
Speaker 2: yards and a touchdown. Drake Maye threw for two ninety four,
Speaker 2: so one fifty four. Over half the yards went to
Speaker 2: the tight ends. Dave and Dan mentioned during the broadcast
Speaker 2: just in an incredulous voice, like, why do why do
Speaker 2: the struggles continue of stopping the tight ends over the
Speaker 2: middle of the field. Yeah, the sixty four thousand dollars question,
Speaker 2: but no answer, no question about it.
Speaker 3: It's a difficult thing to answer. And it's like, all right, well,
Speaker 3: are the tight ends just winning? Are they beating linebackers
Speaker 3: in safeties? You know, are they running better real crisp
Speaker 3: routes getting separation? To me, it doesn't look like that.
Speaker 3: It looks like there are blown assignments. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: got to be driving Al Golden crazy. He has to
Speaker 3: be tearing his hair out by the roots, because you know,
Speaker 3: that's not what he's all about. I mean, when he
Speaker 3: was at Notre Dame, they were buttoned up. They did
Speaker 3: not blow assignments. And they might have gotten beaten physically
Speaker 3: because they played against a better opponent or whatever the
Speaker 3: case may be there individually or collectively as a football team,
Speaker 3: but it wasn't giving things away because of mental errors.
Speaker 3: And man Paul Brown used to hate that. Oh jeez.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you get your nose into playbooks on
Speaker 3: understand what we're trying to do here. If you can't
Speaker 3: handle it mentally, we can't play you. We can't put
Speaker 3: you on the football field, or if you do understand
Speaker 3: it mentally and you're trying to make plays and beat
Speaker 3: play hero ball. I don't like that either. I don't
Speaker 3: like hero ball. I like team football. I want us
Speaker 3: to play team defense, and that's what the coaches want,
Speaker 3: and that's what we want as well.
Speaker 2: David, I would think, at least on a day, and
Speaker 2: I know it's a loss is a loss, and you
Speaker 2: still look though for signs and stuff to stack and
Speaker 2: build on it. And we mentioned the progress made by
Speaker 2: the defense, and I thought Chris Jenkins, I wrote his
Speaker 2: name down early in a game for the first time
Speaker 2: in a while. And Jaylen Davis. We'll hear from Jalen
Speaker 2: coming up in this hour on his interception. But there
Speaker 2: are guys who have good moments, which I think gotta
Speaker 2: has got to mean something for them individually and something
Speaker 2: for the unit to say, all right, we've been getting
Speaker 2: our tail kicked, and we've been we've been beating up
Speaker 2: all season long, but maybe some things are starting to
Speaker 2: develop here and there's more reason to believe in what
Speaker 2: we're doing right.
Speaker 3: I mean, Jalen Davis is a great example. Al Golden
Speaker 3: has to be proud of him, and he just keeps
Speaker 3: getting better and better, and he deserves more and more
Speaker 3: playing time, more and more opportunity to make plays. He
Speaker 3: had the interception. I think he was probably as good
Speaker 3: a tackler as it was on the football field. I mean,
Speaker 3: when he hit people, they were on the ground, he
Speaker 3: brought him down. There wasn't you know, mistackle yards after
Speaker 3: initial contact. He did a very good job of form tackling,
Speaker 3: getting the head across the bow and wrapping those arms up.
Speaker 3: That's the key. I think a high percentage of the
Speaker 3: misstackles are due to not wrapping up and taking the
Speaker 3: opponent's ball. Carry would be it running back, wide, receiver,
Speaker 3: tight end, whatever to the ground.
Speaker 2: Still ahead, and we'll flip the script back to the
Speaker 2: offensive side of things. Mitch Tinsley checks in as we
Speaker 2: roll on with Bengals Line and the Bengals Radio Network
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Speaker 2: rolling right along, and it's monding out of Bengals Line
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Speaker 3: Lance's time for the injury report, which unfortunately, fortunately is
Speaker 3: pretty extensive. Nothing real serious, you know, surgery, you know,
Speaker 3: end of season and all that sort of thing. But
Speaker 3: they're beaten up and they're nicked up for sure. And
Speaker 3: that's presented by Kettering Healthy, official healthcare provider of the
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Speaker 3: And uh it is. I mean, you know, you've got
Speaker 3: guys out because of injury, and again nothing nothing severe,
Speaker 3: but enough to keep them out of the football game.
Speaker 3: And and then guys get hurt during the course of
Speaker 3: the football game. You know, you get your and it
Speaker 3: always seems like one position group starts to get ravaged,
Speaker 3: you know, and and uh Jamar Chase uh you know
Speaker 3: is missing for this football game and then lo and
Speaker 3: behold uh down goes T Higgins.
Speaker 2: That was scary.
Speaker 11: It was that.
Speaker 2: That's one of those ones you had cringed and kind
Speaker 2: of jumped when you saw the head just snap off
Speaker 2: the turf.
Speaker 3: Yeah that uh man, When you when when it bounces
Speaker 3: like that, when it gets that kind of a kind
Speaker 3: of a bounce, uh you know that that noticeable a bounce,
Speaker 3: You're thinking there could be some damage there and there
Speaker 3: there was hopefully nothing too severe. He won't miss too
Speaker 3: much time. But man, you just I mean, I know
Speaker 3: the fan base is just like, when are we gonna
Speaker 3: have all three of the big three together at the
Speaker 3: same time performing for the Cincinnati Bengals. They're still still
Speaker 3: waiting for that. And Uh, unfortunate enough to wait a
Speaker 3: little longer.
Speaker 2: With the t situation. In a normal week, it's probably
Speaker 2: gonna be it would have been challenging to get through
Speaker 2: concussion protocol on a short week. Probably lean to not
Speaker 2: gonna be able to turn it around that quickly to
Speaker 2: play Thursday.
Speaker 3: Agreed, absolutely, And uh, and also I think that was
Speaker 3: probably a factor in the Joe Burrow decision. All right, well,
Speaker 3: let's just you know, you got you got two games
Speaker 3: in a very short time frame here a quick turnaround.
Speaker 3: You're not gonna have a whole lot of time to
Speaker 3: recover after the after the football game against the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 3: So what you know are the New England Patriots, So
Speaker 3: what are we gonna what are we gonna do? Well,
Speaker 3: let's just wait and let's let them go against the
Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens. Let's let them match up against lamarg They've
Speaker 3: had some incredible matchups in the past. And and Joe
Speaker 3: Burrow has done a great job of going into Baltimore
Speaker 3: and giving the Ravens all he can handle and beating him.
Speaker 3: They have a lot of respect for him, and rightfully so.
Speaker 2: Mitch Tinsley yesterday two catches twenty nine yards, a seventeen
Speaker 2: yarder and a touchdown. A really sweet throw from Joe Flacco.
Speaker 2: A really nice catch from Mitchell Tinsley. Here's Mitch after
Speaker 2: the game on the afternoon, we're in the locker room.
Speaker 4: Mitch Tinsley had a touchdown catch today, an opportunity there
Speaker 4: late in the game to potentially pull it out. Unfortunately,
Speaker 4: you guys couldn't quite score that game winning touchdown. But
Speaker 4: what did you think of the Offensi's performance late in
Speaker 4: the game and at least making it a possible come
Speaker 4: from behind wind.
Speaker 13: We did a good job fighting, trying to take advantage
Speaker 13: of opportunities when we were out there. You know, some
Speaker 13: guys went down, and you know some guys stuffed up,
Speaker 13: and I think, you know, we just try to fight today.
Speaker 4: In your touchdown pass was the first that Christian Gonzalez
Speaker 4: is allowed all year. It looked like a perfect throw
Speaker 4: from Joe Flacco. Described the route, described the play, Oh it.
Speaker 13: Was a man coverage and you know, cause that was
Speaker 13: was a great player. But you know I seen him,
Speaker 13: I gave him a great release, stacked him, and you
Speaker 13: know I just looked the ball.
Speaker 9: And Joe put it right right there where I needed to,
Speaker 9: and you know, I just made a play.
Speaker 5: You guys didn't have Jamar for the entire game. It
Speaker 5: didn't have t late.
Speaker 4: How did that affect you and Andre and some of
Speaker 4: the other guys trying to you know, take up for
Speaker 4: that absence and make plays down the stretch.
Speaker 13: I mean, I feel like all of us just tried
Speaker 13: to do a good job of, you know, approaching every
Speaker 13: single day in practice and you know, just every just
Speaker 13: every day mentality like where the starters. So I I think,
Speaker 13: you know, we had to go in knowing that, with
Speaker 13: the confidence, knowing that we can make plays, uh you
Speaker 13: know when our numbers called, and just being ready for
Speaker 13: the opportunity.
Speaker 4: I mentioned the touchdown catch. How about the the catch
Speaker 4: on fourth down late in the game. I'm not sure
Speaker 4: how you caught that. It looked like went right through
Speaker 4: the defensive back's hands and you someholp up the found
Speaker 4: the ball and state in violence.
Speaker 13: Yeah, it was just h is a focus then, honestly,
Speaker 13: because I wasn't sure if he was gonna get high
Speaker 13: enough for anything to you know, to get hand on it,
Speaker 13: and they want to see him go through his hands
Speaker 13: time or reaction to everything, because where I thought the
Speaker 13: ball was gonna go and where it actually ended up.
Speaker 8: You know, I just had to react to it.
Speaker 9: But yeah, it was And I just try to make.
Speaker 4: A point, Mitchell, are you encouraged by what the defense
Speaker 4: is doing. It's two weeks now where the defense at
Speaker 4: least has given up twenty or fewer points to the
Speaker 4: other team's offense.
Speaker 9: I have full confidence in our defense.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 13: I feel like they grind, they go hard every single day.
Speaker 9: You know, they have a great.
Speaker 13: Mentality the way they approach practice every single week, and
Speaker 13: you know, I think it's showing out there this week
Speaker 13: so last week. So I mean, I know they're gonna
Speaker 13: continue to do with what they've been doing.
Speaker 5: And you know, just go go on to the next
Speaker 5: congratulating your second TV. Thank you. That's Mitchy.
Speaker 2: Mitch Tinsley After the game and Dave, we talk about
Speaker 2: guys taking advantage of opportunities. Bengal saw something in him
Speaker 2: in camp. I think everybody was kind of buzzing, like, hey,
Speaker 2: this is Tinsley.
Speaker 3: He's got something going on.
Speaker 2: Here, and he's taken advantage of the opportunities when presented this.
Speaker 3: He really has, I mean five catches, two of them
Speaker 3: are touchdowns. That's pretty damn good production right there. He's
Speaker 3: averaging fifteen point six per catch along of twenty seven.
Speaker 3: So when he's been given the opportunity, he's answered the bell.
Speaker 3: There's no doubt. And I think you know, Joe Flacco
Speaker 3: and Joe Burrow both have confidence in this kid. It's
Speaker 3: like when he's on the football viil, it's not like
Speaker 3: should I or shouldn't I. No, they're cutting it loose.
Speaker 3: They're they're getting the ball to to mits Tinseley, and
Speaker 3: he's showing them that they should. He's a great story,
Speaker 3: there's no question, and the all the teammates love him.
Speaker 3: He works hard, man, he's, you know, on the football field,
Speaker 3: one of the first ones out in the field, one
Speaker 3: of the last ones to leave kind of guy. He's
Speaker 3: given everything he's got. He knows that how fortunate he
Speaker 3: is that not everybody playing football and walking the earth
Speaker 3: is going to get a chance to play professional football
Speaker 3: and he's getting one, so he wants to capitalize big time.
Speaker 2: And I guess you could say the opposite of not
Speaker 2: taking the opposite of taking advantage of opportun unities would
Speaker 2: be somebody like Unfortunately, Jermaine Burton, who on a day
Speaker 2: there's no Jamar Chase, your third round pick, the eightieth
Speaker 2: pickoverall a couple of years ago, is inactive, which I
Speaker 2: think speaks volumes about where Jermaine Burton fits into the
Speaker 2: grand scheme of things.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, you know, they just don't feel like he's ready yet.
Speaker 3: You know that that mentally he's he's there. Yet mentally
Speaker 3: he understands everything that needs needs to understand all the
Speaker 3: nuances of the offense, particularly at the wide receiver position.
Speaker 3: And you know, I mean, the relationship between quarterback and
Speaker 3: receiver has to be you know strong. I mean, it
Speaker 3: has to be like an unbreakable bond. We I'm expecting
Speaker 3: you to be there when I throw the football. You
Speaker 3: got to be there. And if you're not there and
Speaker 3: I suffer an interception or worse, an interception pick six,
Speaker 3: you know we got problems. We got issues, and you
Speaker 3: know he's just, uh, he's got work to do, that's
Speaker 3: for sure.
Speaker 2: We will take a time out and head down the
Speaker 2: stretch final segment of our first hour of the first
Speaker 2: of three big hours. We'll hear from Evan McPherson coming
Speaker 2: up in our hour. Also, Orlando Brown will talk Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow and more as we make our way through this
Speaker 2: Monday night of all things Bengals. Conversation on Bengals Line,
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Speaker 2: on the hour. We'll hear from Jalen Davis later on
Speaker 2: in the show about his day. But he was part
Speaker 2: of a blitz and I don't have the numbers in
Speaker 2: front of me, but it seems like they blitzed more
Speaker 2: yesterday and it created some things and maybe leads to
Speaker 2: maybe trying more. There's always you know that you're you'll
Speaker 2: get burned every once in a while. But seemed to
Speaker 2: create some problems yesterday.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I think Al Golden has started to
Speaker 3: increase that. I think he feels that confident that the
Speaker 3: blitz is going to get home. We're going to at
Speaker 3: least cause problems, yes, And the worst thing that can
Speaker 3: happen is when you blitz and it gets taken up
Speaker 3: and everybody gets stoned and there's no pressure and now
Speaker 3: you're a man short in the back end and it's like,
Speaker 3: oh no, you gritting your teeth, you close your eyes,
Speaker 3: and you hope that quarterback doesn't find the right place
Speaker 3: to throw the football. But I agree, I think Al
Speaker 3: Golden by nature is an aggressive guy, you know, in
Speaker 3: terms of his mindset, how he wants to play football defensively,
Speaker 3: he wants to get after you. He doesn't want to
Speaker 3: allow you to take it to him.
Speaker 2: Let's put this hour in the books and let's look
Speaker 2: forward to our second hour. Evan McPherson and Orlando Brian.
Speaker 2: We'll talk Joe Flacco's time here, We'll talk Joe Burrows,
Speaker 2: perhaps return on Thursday night, and here from Jalen Davis.
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Speaker 2: Evan McPherson yesterday sixty three yarder for a franchise record,
Speaker 2: first Bengal to hit beyond sixty. The previous record was
Speaker 2: hit sixty or beyond. The previous record was fifty nine.
Speaker 2: Evan said that in the twenty twenty two opener, and
Speaker 2: Kate York forgot about him, almost tied it well, kicking
Speaker 2: in his place during the injury and Dave there are
Speaker 2: you know, and I'm gonna make the baseball analogy. Tell
Speaker 2: me if this makes sense. There's that saying with guys
Speaker 2: like Aaron Judge or Albert Poohols in batting practice. The
Speaker 2: ball just sounds differently coming off of bat right. I
Speaker 2: think the same could be said coming off the foot
Speaker 2: of Evan McPherson. It is it's really something to behold.
Speaker 3: It is lace. I mean, you're right on. It's there's
Speaker 3: a big, a big analogy there. It's a good one
Speaker 3: that you're making. When he hits that thing in warm
Speaker 3: ups even it's like bump man. It's a big old
Speaker 3: thud and he it does. It catches you if you're
Speaker 3: daydreaming at all, it'll wake you up. There's no question
Speaker 3: about that. And the thing about him is his legs strength,
Speaker 3: it's it's twofold. He can kick for distance. I mean,
Speaker 3: he can drill the heck out of the football. And
Speaker 3: he hits the ball when I watch him, watch him
Speaker 3: a little bit during practices and on the sideline even
Speaker 3: you know, before game pregame. He hits more toward the
Speaker 3: middle of the football than down in that lower portion
Speaker 3: of the football. And of course the ball is you know, oblong,
Speaker 3: it's a sphere shaped type thing, and he hits it
Speaker 3: where there's a little bit more leather and a little
Speaker 3: bit more air. You know, he puts a good pounding
Speaker 3: on that football. The other thing where he hits it.
Speaker 3: It amazes me how quickly he gets elevation, how high
Speaker 3: he gets the football. You know, usually if you hit
Speaker 3: the thing, the lower you hit it toward the tip
Speaker 3: the point of the football, the more elevation you're going
Speaker 3: to get. This guy breaks that rule. Man, He hits
Speaker 3: it more toward the middle of the football and still
Speaker 3: gets airborne about as quickly as anybody I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: Let's hear from Muddy Mack. Here's Evan after the game yesterday.
Speaker 4: Evan Pearson made team history today with a sixty three
Speaker 4: yard field goal. It was the exact set of circumstances
Speaker 4: that you've talked about before forgetting an opportunity like that.
Speaker 4: And I don't play of the half sixty plus let
Speaker 4: a rip.
Speaker 5: From sixty three.
Speaker 14: Yeah, you know, I felt like I felt like we
Speaker 14: had a good chance to get a shot there at
Speaker 14: the end of the half.
Speaker 9: And you never You're never out of it.
Speaker 14: And that's kind of what I learned throughout the years
Speaker 14: is never take time off, never let your mind wander,
Speaker 14: because in a blink of an eye, you can be
Speaker 14: thrown out there for a long field.
Speaker 8: Goal at the end of the half.
Speaker 14: And so I think we did a good job stand
Speaker 14: in the game and not just looking the foard to halftime,
Speaker 14: and we executed really well snap hold kick.
Speaker 9: Everybody blocked really well.
Speaker 14: And yeah, you know, it's just a lot of fun
Speaker 14: to get to go out there and attempt those and
Speaker 14: I'm just really happy that this one worked out for us.
Speaker 4: There aren't that many members at the sixty yard club
Speaker 4: in the NFL.
Speaker 5: Maybe all does, and I don't know, but it's not
Speaker 5: a huge list.
Speaker 4: How significant is it to have that one extra yard
Speaker 4: from your previous long of fifty nine?
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I've always thought about it.
Speaker 14: It would be cool to get one on the other
Speaker 14: side of the field one day. And you know, I'm
Speaker 14: just blessed if you putting that situation, that opportunity, that
Speaker 14: coach just trust me to go out there and make it.
Speaker 14: And I'm just glad that, you know, they have that.
Speaker 9: Trust in me.
Speaker 4: A little extra special after the sixty seven yarder that
Speaker 4: was good but didn't count at Green Bank.
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, you know, I always enjoy like I feel
Speaker 14: like my rookieyar. I enjoyed the fifty plus attempts and
Speaker 14: now it's kind of switched to like sixty plus. It
Speaker 14: is a lot of fun just go out there and
Speaker 14: swing away and kind of see what happens. And I
Speaker 14: feel like when we go out there, we're looked at
Speaker 14: to make those kicks, and so you know, I felt
Speaker 14: confident going into it, and with how we've been hitting
Speaker 14: it in practice and the operation and how everything's going,
Speaker 14: so it felt good run out would feel for that one.
Speaker 4: The NFL record is sixty eight. Now yeah, how long
Speaker 4: would that have been good from? But the way you
Speaker 4: struck that ball, man, I don't we needed the track man.
Speaker 4: You know how they used to have to set up
Speaker 4: good from.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: I think maybe you got.
Speaker 2: Another five on it or so.
Speaker 14: It's hard to really tell, but uh, i'd say maybe
Speaker 14: about another five.
Speaker 5: I think you're right. The rights on the record, thank
Speaker 5: you is that you would as you can hit the ball. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I hit that one pretty cool.
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's probably the best hit of the day, I
Speaker 14: would say, but yeah, that was kind of like the
Speaker 14: perfect perfect and it all be the show.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, good reference.
Speaker 11: They had you up on the big book on the
Speaker 11: video board after they announced the record.
Speaker 8: Were you aware it was a record?
Speaker 14: Yeah, I know. I mean we hit the fifty nine
Speaker 14: yarder in my second year and that was the record,
Speaker 14: and them Kaide came in last year and tied it,
Speaker 14: and I just I was aware that the record was
Speaker 14: fifty nine and now we just kind of keep from
Speaker 14: the back.
Speaker 12: I guess because there's something magical about.
Speaker 14: Sixty magical backseat. I mean, it just feels good, honestly,
Speaker 14: it feels good to get one on the other side
Speaker 14: of the field, and I think it's impressive when other
Speaker 14: guys do it. So I'm just happy that I could
Speaker 14: go out there and do it as well fourteenth time
Speaker 14: in NFL history.
Speaker 8: From that far away there you go.
Speaker 9: From sixty three or just sixty four, the sixty three
Speaker 9: all right, you had Tom Dempsey that he was he was.
Speaker 3: The first one.
Speaker 12: Is sixty three auted from the record exactly?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so long before you were born.
Speaker 6: That was very correct.
Speaker 15: Yeah, it has been surpassed, but I mean for a
Speaker 15: long time, sixty three is kind of the white whale
Speaker 15: that was the I'm sure when you were growing up
Speaker 15: that was the mark.
Speaker 9: Is that meaningful, the sixty three in of itself?
Speaker 14: Yeah, No, I mean it's very meaningful because I mean
Speaker 14: as a kid going through college and high school, like
Speaker 14: you always dream of those situations and you know, I
Speaker 14: mean I hit the sixty yarder like in high school
Speaker 14: and had the state record for a little bit until
Speaker 14: my little brother broke it. But uh, you always dream
Speaker 14: of the type of situations just to kind of keep
Speaker 14: the energy up going to the halftime, you know, get
Speaker 14: the team rolling a little bit. And I was just
Speaker 14: I just be really excited to get that opportunity.
Speaker 9: Did you uh knew he was a record?
Speaker 12: Did you talk about it with Kate when he tied it?
Speaker 5: Did you guys talk about that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 14: I think I gave him a little bit of grief
Speaker 14: about it, and like he come in for a few
Speaker 14: weeks and he tied my my franchise record. But uh no,
Speaker 14: you know, in the moment, obviously happy for him because
Speaker 14: you know, I don't rid against any kickers anytime, and
Speaker 14: I just want everybody to to out there succeed and
Speaker 14: if that kick game another opportunity on a team, you know,
Speaker 14: I'd be happy for him.
Speaker 4: So but uh.
Speaker 12: After it was all the other guy with the other guy, Yeah.
Speaker 14: He was just saying obviously congrats, and I think he
Speaker 14: topped my kick for sure with that last one that
Speaker 14: he had. I think that that last kick that he
Speaker 14: had tops my why kick of the half just the
Speaker 14: the point in the game obviously made a sick point,
Speaker 14: gave me a touchdown. We couldn't just go down there
Speaker 14: and kick a long field goal to tight and send
Speaker 14: it overtime. So I think I think Andy got us
Speaker 14: right there at the end, and that was really impressive
Speaker 14: kick by him.
Speaker 3: Congratulations, Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 9: You talked about stand ready all the time.
Speaker 15: When when Chase rips off that twenty one yard run,
Speaker 15: is that when the juices really start pumping.
Speaker 14: Like we might have a shot at this, you know,
Speaker 14: it's like, I feel like that's kind of what I
Speaker 14: struggled with as a rookie is there's twenty seconds left
Speaker 14: and into the first half, I'm like, oh, there's no
Speaker 14: way we're gonna kick, and sure enough, you break a
Speaker 14: long pass, break a long run, and you're up. So
Speaker 14: I feel like since then, it's just kind of you
Speaker 14: never take a down off. You know, anything can happen,
Speaker 14: especially with this offense.
Speaker 15: So you said best kick of the day, Does that
Speaker 15: include warm ups because you were blasting enough from Yeah, I.
Speaker 9: Would say so.
Speaker 14: I think I hit that one probably the cleanest out
Speaker 14: of any ball all day, and I was hitting it
Speaker 14: pretty well.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 14: I was happy with the first field goal and the
Speaker 14: extra points. I thought I hit him well and definitely
Speaker 14: hit the six three.
Speaker 15: You hit the up right from sixty and warm ups,
Speaker 15: it looked like that one would have beener from seventy.
Speaker 9: It was way up on right.
Speaker 14: Yep, yeah, going the same way.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 9: So we had a good feeling, like through pregame of
Speaker 9: what our range was.
Speaker 2: Evan after the record setting day, he matched the legendary
Speaker 2: Tom Dempsey with a sixty three. A last there's a
Speaker 2: name blast from the past. No fun intended fourteenth time
Speaker 2: in NFL history a kicker has hit from sixty or beyond.
Speaker 2: The Dempsey record stood for forty three years. Wow, Matt
Speaker 2: Prater got to sixty four yards in twenty thirteen. The
Speaker 2: record sixty eight by Cam Little just three weeks ago.
Speaker 2: And the way the kicking game is going, somebody may
Speaker 2: get yesterday. The way it looked, Evans kick had another
Speaker 2: four or five yards beyond that, somebody may get Cam
Speaker 2: Little sixty eight yards before the season's over.
Speaker 3: I agree with you, Lance, I mean when he hit
Speaker 3: that field goal, when it hit the net, it was
Speaker 3: halfway up the net. You know, it wasn't just barely
Speaker 3: over the crossbar. He cleared that bad boy easily, easily.
Speaker 3: So I mean there's more yards left for Evan McPherson
Speaker 3: to gain, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: I had forgotten he hit a sixty earner, he said
Speaker 2: in high school, and had the state record for a
Speaker 2: little bit until his little brother broke his record. So
Speaker 2: clearly the kicking McPherson family the way they booted, and
Speaker 2: according to the Elias Sports Bureau, McPherson becomes the fourth
Speaker 2: kicker in history to kick a sixty yarder and a
Speaker 2: fifty yarder in the same game. And while we're on it,
Speaker 2: let's give let's give Darren Simmons some credit. Special Teams
Speaker 2: Unit some credit. Evan went through some stages of his
Speaker 2: confidence waivered last year. He had gone through an injury.
Speaker 2: They bring in a new long snapper, and it has
Speaker 2: certainly all come together to work as a well oiled machine.
Speaker 2: And he's feeling obviously, Evan is feeling fully confident right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. And Darren Simmons is extremely confident in him.
Speaker 3: There's no question about that. He just he thinks, you know,
Speaker 3: it's automatic. I mean, it's money. Mack is as out
Speaker 3: of because he's ever been around. And Darren Simmons does
Speaker 3: a hell of a job. I mean, he's the best
Speaker 3: special teams coach the Bengals I've ever had, and I
Speaker 3: think he's the best special teams coach in the NFL
Speaker 3: has ever seen. I think he is extraordinary with what
Speaker 3: he does. He's kind of on the cutting edge. He's
Speaker 3: at the forefront of everything. He's not always trying to
Speaker 3: catch up. He's always the guy that's like, hey, I
Speaker 3: got something new and different. Let's take a look at
Speaker 3: this and Moneymack and kickers in general, because Darren was
Speaker 3: a kicker himself at the collegiate level, so kickers do
Speaker 3: respond to him, and he knows how to handle kickers.
Speaker 3: He understands the psyche and psychology a kickers.
Speaker 2: And Dave Sitcha, it can't be understated what a weapon
Speaker 2: it is to have somebody like may Peerson, who when
Speaker 2: you're on a drive and can think, right, if we
Speaker 2: get to you know, the forty, the opponent's forty. I mean,
Speaker 2: yesterday that hole was on the logo. I mean, it
Speaker 2: just changes if you're Zach you're play calling late in
Speaker 2: games where you looking for field goal range compared to
Speaker 2: a lot of other kickers in the NFL.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and in my mind, not just Evan, but all
Speaker 3: the kickers that you referenced, seventy yards is going to
Speaker 3: happen at some point, somebody's gonna drill a seventy yard
Speaker 3: field goal and it's like, are you kidding me? Shouldn't
Speaker 3: they be turned around kicking the other way? They're kicking
Speaker 3: at the wrong goalpost, aren't they. I mean, it's amazing
Speaker 3: the range that these kickers have. It really is all right.
Speaker 2: We are up and running in our second hour tonight,
Speaker 2: let's talk a little O line. We'll hear from Orlando
Speaker 2: Brown Junior and more in the day for Chase Brown
Speaker 2: running the football, that is, we continue Bengals line of
Speaker 2: the Bengals Radio Network and ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.
Speaker 2: We're rolling right along on this Monday night talking Bengals
Speaker 2: on the show we call Bengals on Bengals Radio Network
Speaker 2: and ESPN fifteen thirty Alliance. McAllister. He is Dave Lapham.
Speaker 2: We've got plenty to sort through between now and nine
Speaker 2: o'clock tonight. We've worked our way through this Patriots game.
Speaker 2: We'll eventually get to the Baltimore Ravens on Thursday night.
Speaker 2: Let's not leave out the offensive line. Yeah, yesterday Joe
Speaker 2: Flacco sack so one time in thirty eight drop backs.
Speaker 2: On the ground, they rushed for one hundred and twenty
Speaker 2: yards as a team, five point two yards per carry.
Speaker 2: Here's Orlando Brown after the game.
Speaker 16: Orlando, obviously, you guys fought really hard, went down to
Speaker 16: the wire. It seems like every game right now it's
Speaker 16: going down to the wire. Come up a bit short.
Speaker 17: Yeah, oh man, It's it's tough, you know, I can't
Speaker 17: say enough great things about the men in here though,
Speaker 17: you know, to continue to come out here day after day,
Speaker 17: week after week and continue to fight no matter what
Speaker 17: the circumstances are. It's unfortunate that, you know, we haven't
Speaker 17: done enough to win some of these games, but.
Speaker 16: The fight is there when you see the defense do
Speaker 16: what they've done. There's been so much talk, it seems
Speaker 16: back and forth. Earlier this season, it was the offense.
Speaker 16: You get Flacco in there, the offense picks up, the
Speaker 16: defense flags a bit, and then this week they come up.
Speaker 16: I think they have nine plays inside the five and
Speaker 16: they don't let the Patriots score. Obviously had the pick
Speaker 16: sixth today that you know, they had another goal line
Speaker 16: stand where they hold them to a field goal to
Speaker 16: keep it a one possession game. Just their fight and
Speaker 16: what you saw.
Speaker 17: Yeah, no, man, I think it's always important to keep
Speaker 17: perspective when we talk about ball, and you know, offensively,
Speaker 17: you know, obviously we've got a ton of notoriety because
Speaker 17: of the superstars on our side of the field, but
Speaker 17: our defensive guys come in and they work hard. You know,
Speaker 17: coach coach Al and his staff man they work hard.
Speaker 17: You know, they they love the game, and you know,
Speaker 17: I'm so happy that they were able to come out
Speaker 17: here today and make the plays that they made, especially
Speaker 17: during that goal line red zone situation. Man, it's it's
Speaker 17: always hard on the defense to do that, and you know,
Speaker 17: it seems like they did it without blinking. And you know, man,
Speaker 17: it's unfortunately we didn't go down to score points after that.
Speaker 3: But you know, man, we we're growing.
Speaker 9: We're growing, and to me, that's that's really important.
Speaker 16: It's always tough when you don't have Jamar Chase. Of course,
Speaker 16: Joe Flacco figured it out at the end. He was
Speaker 16: starting to get out. You guys are getting into a
Speaker 16: bit of a rhythm. One thing that stood out to
Speaker 16: me Chase Brown average five plus yards to carry, one
Speaker 16: hundred plus yards rushing. You guys have been consistent, it
Speaker 16: seems like running the ball over the past five or
Speaker 16: six weeks.
Speaker 17: Yeah, No, we have, man, And that's a testament to
Speaker 17: you know, our our coaches just putting us in great position,
Speaker 17: allowing calling the runs. You know what I mean, chaste,
Speaker 17: making a lot of people miss receivers, blocking man. Running
Speaker 17: the ball is it is a twelve man effort and
Speaker 17: that includes a coach, we don't really to play caller.
Speaker 17: So you know, man, I think all those things have
Speaker 17: been falling in line for us in that area.
Speaker 16: It's a short week. How do you rebound and get
Speaker 16: ready for bothim.
Speaker 17: We get some sleep, ready to go kick some masks
Speaker 17: on Thanksgiving. Man, it's my first time playing on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 17: We'll be back in Baltimore against a really good Baltimore team. Man,
Speaker 17: So I'm excited.
Speaker 2: Orlando Brown summon up the afternoon by the O line.
Speaker 2: What did you make of the performance of the O
Speaker 2: line as a whole, Dave.
Speaker 3: Well, the numbers you referenced there, Lance averaging five point
Speaker 3: two or carry and give up one quarterback sack against
Speaker 3: a Mike Rabel coach defensive football team. That's pretty damn
Speaker 3: good effort. Yeah, that's a good performance right there. Uh.
Speaker 3: And I thought that the on the on the edges,
Speaker 3: I thought the tackle has played one of their best
Speaker 3: games combined, you know, the tandem, the duo of those
Speaker 3: two guys. I thought Orlando Brown or Marius men has
Speaker 3: played at a pretty high level. I thought that they
Speaker 3: did a good job of keeping Joe Flacco upright and
Speaker 3: allowing him to throw the football and feel confident he
Speaker 3: wasn't going to get hit while he was throwing the football.
Speaker 3: I thought Ted Krris played well inside. You know, he's
Speaker 3: obviously one of the captains of the football team, a
Speaker 3: tremendous leader, and he's going to battle you every single snap.
Speaker 3: And he kept the pocket firm for Joe Flacco to to,
Speaker 3: you know, climb the pocket if need be. And thought
Speaker 3: the young guards, you know, Dylan Fairchild, I thought played
Speaker 3: pretty pretty well. He plays hard man, and you know
Speaker 3: he's he's a powerful kid. I mean, he's he's got
Speaker 3: a bright future in the National Football League. He's going
Speaker 3: to be around a long time. He's not going to
Speaker 3: be a one hit wonder here for a rookie season
Speaker 3: and then gone elsewhere in the National Football League. So overall,
Speaker 3: I thought, probably it was one of the better games,
Speaker 3: if not the best game that they've had collectively as
Speaker 3: an offensive line, particularly when you consider it the the
Speaker 3: defense they played against.
Speaker 2: Chase Brown goes for one hundred and seven on the ground.
Speaker 2: That's five straight games with at least one hundred yards
Speaker 2: of one hundred yards from scrimmage, and Dave I would
Speaker 2: have lost a bet on this. I'm looking this morning
Speaker 2: there as a team averaging four point four yards of carry.
Speaker 2: That would be their best season average on the ground
Speaker 2: since twenty eighteen, when they averaged four point seven, and
Speaker 2: even our guy Joe Goodbary Bengals on the Brain was
Speaker 2: pointing out it's the most efficient run game of the
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor era. It certainly didn't feel like that early
Speaker 2: in the year, but there's some momentum for how they're
Speaker 2: running the football now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think Chase Brown has a lot to
Speaker 3: do with that. I think this kid is the real deal.
Speaker 3: He's you know, they'd list him at five ten, maybe
Speaker 3: they list him at two ten. I think he's a
Speaker 3: little bit more than that. But he has got a
Speaker 3: low center of gravity. He runs extremely hard. He's very
Speaker 3: very physical. He doesn't give you any hitting surface. He
Speaker 3: runs with a body lean, so he really breaks a
Speaker 3: lot of timeckles. He'll avoid contact. He's very quick. I mean,
Speaker 3: in a phone booth, it'd be hard to get a
Speaker 3: finger nail on the guy. And you know, he's a
Speaker 3: great combination. He also runs good routes and catches the football,
Speaker 3: does both of those things exceptionally well. Joe Flaco and
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow love to throw the football to him. When
Speaker 3: they check it down, they know they're going to get
Speaker 3: something out of it. You know it's not going to
Speaker 3: be check it down across your fingers and hope, hope
Speaker 3: and pray so and then the final thing that he
Speaker 3: does that Joe Flacco and Joe Burrow appreciate even more
Speaker 3: so is he'll stick his nose right in the middle
Speaker 3: of the chest of a linebackground blitz pick up. I mean,
Speaker 3: he'll like snap their heads, he'll knock them back. He
Speaker 3: is a football player in every sense of the word.
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny to say it that there's one
Speaker 2: more phase of his game, and I don't know how
Speaker 2: to put it into proper words, but there's so many
Speaker 2: times he will bust a nice run of fifteen twenty
Speaker 2: yards and he's like one one like grab of his
Speaker 2: shoe away from going. I thought yesterday he was going
Speaker 2: for seventy or seventy five to the house on to score.
Speaker 2: But and you think of what it would mean to
Speaker 2: his yarts per carry average after the twenty yard game
Speaker 2: if he just gets past that one last grab of
Speaker 2: his shoe for even more yards.
Speaker 3: Right right, Yeah, he is. He is special. And the
Speaker 3: thing about him. He's never satisfied now. He always wants
Speaker 3: to do more. It's like I could have gotten more
Speaker 3: out of that run. Boy, I appreciate the quarterback throwing
Speaker 3: me to the football. I get to get more yards
Speaker 3: for him after catch. He's that type of a player,
Speaker 3: and you know, and that's a good trait to have.
Speaker 3: Never be content, never be satisfied, always strive for more.
Speaker 2: When we continue, let's talk a little bit more about
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco and what he's brought to this team. If
Speaker 2: it is in fact Joe Burrow who takes over Thursday
Speaker 2: night and this is it for Joe Flacco for this season,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of praise to be directed towards Joe
Speaker 2: Flacco for not just what he's done on the field,
Speaker 2: but I think off the field. Let's spend some time
Speaker 2: on that as we continue with Bengals on It the
Speaker 2: Bengals Radio Network at ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Hey,
Speaker 2: let's keep things moving along on this Monday night of
Speaker 2: Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network in ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 2: Lance but cant Lester Dave Lapham, Let's talk some more
Speaker 2: Joe Flaccowe hit don't even heard from him a little
Speaker 2: bit earlier. We'll hear from him later on in our
Speaker 2: third hour, and we'll talk Joe Burrow in our next segment,
Speaker 2: And if Joe returns on Thursday night, maybe it's that's
Speaker 2: it for Joe Flacco. But Dave, I think he's worthy
Speaker 2: of a segment of discussion of what he's meant to
Speaker 2: this franchise. I just I keep going back to. I
Speaker 2: know it's cliche to call him a pros pro, but
Speaker 2: there is such a wise, veteran presence and perspective that
Speaker 2: he's lent to this team that I think is in
Speaker 2: hearing all the guys talk week to week on this show.
Speaker 2: He just sounds different in his view, like looking down
Speaker 2: on it as a forty year old, right, looking down
Speaker 2: on everybody, but just looking at it from the biggest
Speaker 2: picture that anybody has on the team. There's just a
Speaker 2: unique positive he brings to this team.
Speaker 3: Does that make sense?
Speaker 2: I'm struggling to put into proper words, but there's just
Speaker 2: something about him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he does. He has he has a charisma, you know,
Speaker 3: I mean, there is there's some kind of a a
Speaker 3: there's a calm to him. Yeah, oh yeah, Joe Cool
Speaker 3: and Joe comm. Yeah, Joe borrows Joe Cool, Joe Flacco's
Speaker 3: Joe comm And I do think those are the two
Speaker 3: quarterbacks that that'll be the duo, that the tandem next year.
Speaker 3: And uh and I think Joe Flacco will be okay
Speaker 3: with that now unless somebody offers him, you know, gobs
Speaker 3: of money and a starting opportunity. If you're a player
Speaker 3: in the National Football League, you want to start, you
Speaker 3: want to be a starting quarterback. But if there's no
Speaker 3: offers like that out there, Joe flaccol I think that
Speaker 3: he would be very content being not not content, that's
Speaker 3: probably the wrong word, but he would appreciate the opportunity
Speaker 3: to continue to be a part of this organization. He
Speaker 3: likes this football team a lot. He talks about hanging
Speaker 3: with the guys and uh and and he that's that's
Speaker 3: big to him, having that kind of a connection with
Speaker 3: his teammates. You know, it's playing sports is a unique
Speaker 3: thing in in that way in terms of bonding with
Speaker 3: other human beings, bonding with other people, and at the
Speaker 3: professional level, it's the most unique. I mean, it's crazy.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 3: And to get an opportunity to do it is something
Speaker 3: that I'll always treasure, There's no question about that. And
Speaker 3: then to do it for for ten years. I was
Speaker 3: fortunate enough to do that.
Speaker 5: And and.
Speaker 3: You just you look back on players and you have reunions.
Speaker 3: You know, you'll get together with teammates five, ten, twenty
Speaker 3: five years down the road. And Joe Flacco seems to
Speaker 3: be that kind of guy where he'll he'll want to
Speaker 3: talk to teammates about what they're doing with their lives
Speaker 3: and how their lives have gone. And uh, Flaco, he's
Speaker 3: got five kids, man, he and his wife five young children,
Speaker 3: so he's got a lot on his plate and and
Speaker 3: he handles it oh so well. And he's a great
Speaker 3: example for young players to understand how to be a
Speaker 3: pros pro. Like you say, do everything you need to
Speaker 3: get ready to play at the highest level you possibly
Speaker 3: can on a weekly basis, as well as take care
Speaker 3: of your family. That's a that's a big burden, that's
Speaker 3: a big task, and Flacco does pretty flawlessly, no doubt.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think the example part is such a
Speaker 2: good thing. And I've heard people say and it's weird
Speaker 2: sometimes because there's so much love and support for Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's taken if you say something positive about Flacco,
Speaker 2: it's meant as a negative Joe. That's that has nothing
Speaker 2: to out of that. It's two separate worlds. Joe Flacco
Speaker 2: can be a great example for how he handles himself
Speaker 2: in news, the press conferences, in the locker room, and
Speaker 2: in the game and on the sidelines. That has nothing
Speaker 2: to do with Joe Burrow. It's just Joe's just very
Speaker 2: good at that at the whole package. Whether and I'm
Speaker 2: trying to remember the example now of the moment where
Speaker 2: it was Yoshi, after Yoshi had had the game with
Speaker 2: a couple of drops. Yoshi related that that Joe went
Speaker 2: to him and talked to him after the game and
Speaker 2: let you know, hang in the you know, paraphrasing, hang
Speaker 2: in there. You know everybody has days like that. That's
Speaker 2: part of the quality that makes Joe Flacco valuable to
Speaker 2: a football team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's the stuff that Joe Burrow could learn
Speaker 3: from him, and not that Joe Burrow doesn't do it already.
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow, his teammates said that Joe Burrow is great.
Speaker 3: You know, when you make a crucial mistake that hurts
Speaker 3: the football team. Joe's Borrow's the first one over there. Hey,
Speaker 3: forget about it. Let's you know, don't let one bad
Speaker 3: play turn it to do uh, let's move on from
Speaker 3: the mistakes and let's go get it done. Let's go
Speaker 3: win a football game. And that's what Paul Brown was
Speaker 3: all about, you know, don't let those kind of things linger.
Speaker 3: And uh and and I and I think Joe Flacco.
Speaker 3: That's why I think those two is a duo. There's
Speaker 3: a lot to uh, you know, a lot to be
Speaker 3: gained by uh, by the two Joe's Joe common, Joe
Speaker 3: cool as as a tandement as a duo, and they
Speaker 3: can learn from each other. I mean, Joe Burrow. When
Speaker 3: Joe Flacco comes off the field, Joe Burrow is the
Speaker 3: first one there to give him a nugget, you know.
Speaker 3: And I'm sure Flacco really appreciates it. I'm sure he
Speaker 3: takes it in the right way. And he's going to
Speaker 3: be able to do that for Joe Burrow as well
Speaker 3: when Joe Burrow is back and playing for the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 3: And I think I think Joe's looking forward to and
Speaker 3: I think both quarterbacks enjoy that part of it.
Speaker 2: I think if there's there's so many different Joe Flacco
Speaker 2: moments I'm going to take from this season, but yesterday's
Speaker 2: the latest. We're talking about a forty year old quarterback
Speaker 2: who's dealing with at least something in his shoulder, who
Speaker 2: dislocates his finger, who leaves for one play, who comes
Speaker 2: back and then throws just one of the prettiest passes
Speaker 2: in the corner of the end zone to Tinsley, And
Speaker 2: I'm like, Joe, that would look at that. Look what
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco just did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, there's only only a few people walking
Speaker 3: planet Earth that can do that man, and Joe Flacco
Speaker 3: he's definitely one of them. He throws it beautiful.
Speaker 2: And Dave had I said when they traded for him.
Speaker 2: Had We've been sitting here and said, all right, let's
Speaker 2: say he quarterbacks for the next six games. How about
Speaker 2: if he completes sixty two percent of it, passes thirteen
Speaker 2: touchdowns to only four interceptions. We would have thought, WHOA,
Speaker 2: You're gonna get all of that from the forty year
Speaker 2: old Joe Flack who just joined this team. And they
Speaker 2: have and I know it's a bottom line business, and
Speaker 2: people say they only won one game with him, it's
Speaker 2: a team game, and he carried himself so well and
Speaker 2: put up numbers to go with it. I know he
Speaker 2: had took a sack that took him out of a
Speaker 2: field goal range yesterday and threw a pick six. He
Speaker 2: hasn't been perfect, but man, what he's added to this team.
Speaker 2: It's a pretty nice pickup for a trade midweek for
Speaker 2: a six round.
Speaker 3: Pick, no question about it. What it would go down
Speaker 3: as one of the one of the better trades in
Speaker 3: franchise history, quite honestly. And when you have a quarterback
Speaker 3: rating in ninety one point four at any age, I'm
Speaker 3: not talking about you know, forty years old. That's unbelievable
Speaker 3: at forty years old, but a quarterback rating in ninety
Speaker 3: one point four is getting it done. And like you said,
Speaker 3: the touchdown to interception ratio better than three to one,
Speaker 3: and you know that, and any quarterback I know Kenny
Speaker 3: Anderson would always want to be at least two to one,
Speaker 3: and a lot of times he was three to one
Speaker 3: or better. But that's that's what you're looking for. You're
Speaker 3: looking for helping the football team as many times as
Speaker 3: you can and not hurting the football team as many
Speaker 3: times as you can.
Speaker 2: I would imagine over the years, final thought on the
Speaker 2: dislocation of the finger, and it was back in place,
Speaker 2: and he goes in and through it. I would imagine
Speaker 2: you dislocated a finger or two and you're.
Speaker 3: Yees, absolutely think I think all told, I think I
Speaker 3: dislocated four the ten. So yeah, popped him. The quicker
Speaker 3: you pop him back in though, I can tell you
Speaker 3: this from experience. So quicker you pop back in, the
Speaker 3: less swelling you get, and less disfigureing you get, so
Speaker 3: and you know, and you can get some ice on
Speaker 3: it right away after the game. I'm sure I said.
Speaker 3: In fact, I saw him before I came in here
Speaker 3: to work, to work together with you, and I think
Speaker 3: he was going in to get some treatment and make
Speaker 3: sure that he's ready to rock and roll, because he
Speaker 3: threw the ball really well. I mean that ball came
Speaker 3: off his hand pretty darn well. I think most of
Speaker 3: the time it was going where he wanted it.
Speaker 2: To take a time out to come back from one
Speaker 2: quarterback to the other. Let's talk about Joe Burrow in
Speaker 2: the potential return or all signs pointing to his return
Speaker 2: on Thursday night. He is Dave Lapham. I'm Lance Pacalister.
Speaker 2: It's Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network in seven
Speaker 2: hundred WLW. Hey, welcome back to Bengals Line in this
Speaker 2: Monday night. Thanks for hanging out and tagging along with
Speaker 2: us as we talk Bengals football each and every Monday
Speaker 2: night for three rock solid hours. We're making our way
Speaker 2: through yesterday's twenty six twenty loss to the Patriots. We'll
Speaker 2: get to those Baltimore Ravens as well. Lance Pacalister, along
Speaker 2: with Dave Lapham and Dave from one quarterback to the other,
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco to Joe Burrow. And would be fair to
Speaker 2: say all signs are pointing to the return of Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow on Thursday night.
Speaker 3: I would say so, Lance, I would think so. And
Speaker 3: I know the biggest driver of that is Joe Burrow himself.
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow is like enough is enough. I can't take
Speaker 3: it anymore, you know, I just absolutely despise watching my
Speaker 3: football team that I should be quarterbacking for. Uh go
Speaker 3: to war without me, go to battle? So I do. I.
Speaker 3: I think I think Joe Burrow will be at the
Speaker 3: quarterback position and I think it'll give give the entire
Speaker 3: you know, franchise a boost, a lift Uh in the offense. Uh,
Speaker 3: I know we'll we'll feel that. And I know for
Speaker 3: a fact the offensive line will. He's tight with those guys.
Speaker 3: He takes care of those guys. Uh. They they want
Speaker 3: to they want to make sure they take care of
Speaker 3: him and keep him safe and upright.
Speaker 2: He he's been through a lot, He's rehabbed his tail
Speaker 2: off to.
Speaker 3: Get to this point.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 2: The the the debate among fans is why, why with
Speaker 2: the record the way it is, would you risk Joe Burrow?
Speaker 2: And I'll go back to it. I'll defer to what
Speaker 2: Zach said. After the game, winning is important, and they
Speaker 2: may be three and eight and there may only be
Speaker 2: six games left and the chances maybe minuscule of making
Speaker 2: the playoffs. But I always I fall back on players play,
Speaker 2: and if he's healthy, I understand him playing. Can it
Speaker 2: be as simple as that that players play? Is there
Speaker 2: is there any argument to be made where the record
Speaker 2: is would mean he shouldn't play. I just can't subscribe
Speaker 2: to that.
Speaker 3: No, I'm in total concert with you. I mean, if
Speaker 3: he's able to play, he will play. Biggest reason because
Speaker 3: he wants to play. Desperately wants to play football. He
Speaker 3: gets paid handsomely to play the game of football. And
Speaker 3: you know, he knows that the Cincinnati Bengals are a
Speaker 3: better football team when he's out there playing the quarterback position.
Speaker 3: So he wants to get out there and make the
Speaker 3: team hole again. And if you know, if you string
Speaker 3: together a few wins, man the difference between nine and
Speaker 3: eight and eight nine could be man a legitimate outside
Speaker 3: shot at the playoffs as opposed to no shot at
Speaker 3: the playoffs. So I think Joe Burrow, for many reasons,
Speaker 3: some that we just talked about, wants to play as
Speaker 3: many games as he possibly can.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and oh here, I hear this refrain a lot
Speaker 2: from people. They should they should tank and get a
Speaker 2: better draft pick. And I always say, I haven't played
Speaker 2: the game obviously, but I always say, how do you
Speaker 2: think that would play out? If you want a team
Speaker 2: to tank?
Speaker 3: What is that?
Speaker 2: How do you tell a team to tank? No player
Speaker 2: is not gonna want to play hard. You can't say
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I'm gonna play all the backups
Speaker 2: and not play any of the starters because we're gonna
Speaker 2: secretly tank. It just it drives me when people say
Speaker 2: it like it's something so easily executed and understood by
Speaker 2: the actual players who would be told or not told,
Speaker 2: you're gonna be part of a tank.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there'd be a revolution. I mean, you know, the players,
Speaker 3: they're be an uprising. The players would be like, I
Speaker 3: don't want to be part of that, and I'm gonna
Speaker 3: go public about it. I'm gonna I'm gonna tell everybody
Speaker 3: that I know and uh and get on the get
Speaker 3: on my microphone and tell people that you know, Hey,
Speaker 3: they want us to lose football games. No, you want
Speaker 3: to You're you're making money. You're you're you're a professional.
Speaker 3: You're paid to play. You're not paid to lose. You're
Speaker 3: paid to win football games. You go out there, you
Speaker 3: suck it up.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: If you if you nicked up, dinged up, you suck
Speaker 3: it up and you go try to win a football game.
Speaker 3: And that's uh, that's why you're gonna be invited back
Speaker 3: the following year. If you don't do that, you're not
Speaker 3: gonna be around the National Football League very long.
Speaker 2: There's also the idea of if if you were to
Speaker 2: tell Joe, no, we're not going to play even though
Speaker 2: you're completely healthy, I would think everybody else in the
Speaker 2: locker room who's dealing with something a shoulder, a knee,
Speaker 2: an ankle, who's not feeling very good, Like, what about me?
Speaker 2: My thought would be, well, wait a minute, you're completely
Speaker 2: healthy and they're not going to play you. But I'm
Speaker 2: like barely hanging on here, strapped together with duct tape,
Speaker 2: with injuries, and I have to go out and play.
Speaker 2: The optics just don't work.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm sure that's happened around the league, and
Speaker 3: I'm sure it's caused problems. It's caused issues. I mean,
Speaker 3: it could lead to fish. It's the cuffs, man. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, it's like these guys are prideful and uh,
Speaker 3: you know, the the only way that you're evaluated, uh
Speaker 3: is wins and losses. That's the bottom line. It's like that,
Speaker 3: that's what you're all about. When you, uh, when you
Speaker 3: reflect back in your career, you know, you go back, Okay, well,
Speaker 3: jeezs in the seventies, oh man, we were eleven to three.
Speaker 3: That was a hell of a football team. Man. We
Speaker 3: had a good run. We had great players. What what
Speaker 3: a what a year that was? Oh two and fourteen,
Speaker 3: Oh Jesus, that was that was horsepucky man. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's just I can't I can't believe that that we
Speaker 3: played as poorly as we played. They never saw that coming.
Speaker 3: That that that's a total shock and embarrassment and we
Speaker 3: were embarrassment and embarrassment to the entire city.
Speaker 2: One final thought, and this would be perfect for you
Speaker 2: and I get this A lot the the fan thought of, well,
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco doesn't get sacked as much because he just
Speaker 2: gets rid of the ball, and Joe Burrow should do that.
Speaker 2: We know Joe is about extending plays and trying to
Speaker 2: create something. Can you is there anything to be drawn
Speaker 2: from all this? Or or say, did Joe like, hey,
Speaker 2: maybe try to get throw it away earlier? Can you
Speaker 2: do that? Or Joe six years into his career? Is
Speaker 2: is Joe the quarterback?
Speaker 5: He is?
Speaker 2: And you can't change him? Should you try to change him?
Speaker 2: What do you make of all that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's there's a lot, yeah, but but
Speaker 3: the bottom line is, you know, you can't really change
Speaker 3: the way the quarterback wants to play the football game.
Speaker 3: And Joe, Joe Flacco is not you know, flee to
Speaker 3: foot now, He's not you know, he's not a stiff.
Speaker 3: It's not like he can't move. He moves pretty well.
Speaker 3: And he'll climb the pocket and he'll go side to
Speaker 3: side and he'll throw the football well. Uh, Joe Burrow, though,
Speaker 3: when you get him out of pocket, he's a threat.
Speaker 3: When he tucks it, he's a threat.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 3: He'll probably run like four or five, you know, and
Speaker 3: in that range. I'm not sure what he ran coming
Speaker 3: out of college, but I bet he runs every bit
Speaker 3: as well as that now, maybe even a little bit better.
Speaker 8: So.
Speaker 2: And everybody who says that Joe Burrow should give up
Speaker 2: on a play and just throw it away, they're the
Speaker 2: same people who praised him when he extended to play
Speaker 2: and was stepping up in the pocketing diving ahead like
Speaker 2: Superman and throwing the ball into the endzone for a touchdown.
Speaker 2: They say, what a play that he extended and made
Speaker 2: something of. And that's how a lot of plays are
Speaker 2: made by Joe Burrow extending and buying some extra time
Speaker 2: to get Jamar Chase and opening her tea and opening.
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you what, all the defensive quarters in
Speaker 3: the National Football League would vote to have Joe Burrow
Speaker 3: and not run around anymore. And extending create plays because
Speaker 3: now I was talking to Marvin Lewis about that. He
Speaker 3: did the game for. I can't remember what network hed
Speaker 3: he was working with. He was doing color for the
Speaker 3: football game, and he said, in his mind, that's one
Speaker 3: of the big things that's a separator in Joe Burrow's
Speaker 3: favor And he said, it's a defensive coordinator. It's like
Speaker 3: you can't really scheme for that, you know, That's like
Speaker 3: that's the intangible, that's the variable that it makes Joe
Speaker 3: Burrow special.
Speaker 2: Let's take a time out, head down the stretch, final
Speaker 2: segment of they are here from Jalen Davis on his
Speaker 2: big day yesterday. He's Dave Lapham, Land McAllister Bengals Line,
Speaker 2: Bengals Radio Network and ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.
Speaker 2: Down the stretch we go in our second of three
Speaker 2: big hours tonight. I Bengals one of the Bengals Radio
Speaker 2: network at ESPN fifteen thirty Lions. But callister Dave Lapham.
Speaker 2: We talked to defense earlier in Jalen Davis and his
Speaker 2: big day. Let's hear from Jalen on the day that
Speaker 2: was against the Patriots.
Speaker 4: Jalen, you moved into the starting line of today. I
Speaker 4: thought you played a great game. How did you feel
Speaker 4: about your performance?
Speaker 13: I feel like I played good, but you know, things
Speaker 13: feel a lot better when you win. So yeah, I
Speaker 13: played good, but we gotta go back to the droboard
Speaker 13: get better.
Speaker 5: On Thursday night, let's talk about what the defense did well.
Speaker 4: You held their offense to nineteen points, they scored a
Speaker 4: defensive touchdown. That's two weeks in a row now where
Speaker 4: it's been twenty or less. Do you see significant progress
Speaker 4: on the defensive side.
Speaker 5: Of the ball.
Speaker 13: Oh, I feel like we've been actually getting better every
Speaker 13: every week. We may getting better, but like I said,
Speaker 13: we still got a so much more to improve. So
Speaker 13: we all just gotta, like I said, get back to
Speaker 13: the von board, look all the mistakes, and just do
Speaker 13: better than.
Speaker 4: It seemed like the one thing the Patriots did that
Speaker 4: hurts you guys was find their kite ends over the
Speaker 4: middle of the field. Anything stand out from your perspective
Speaker 4: on those plays?
Speaker 12: Not that I can say right now.
Speaker 13: I just have to look at the film again and
Speaker 13: then go from there.
Speaker 4: Got to pick six defensive score from Geno Stone and
Speaker 4: gave the team a ten to nothing lead.
Speaker 5: What was your view of that play.
Speaker 9: Oh, it was turned up.
Speaker 12: You know what I'm saying, Boy, gotta pick six. There's
Speaker 12: none better than that.
Speaker 13: But like I said, we just gotta keep their foot
Speaker 13: on the next and don't let them in the next
Speaker 13: lether time.
Speaker 4: Guys gotta stop late in the game to give the
Speaker 4: offensive chance to pull it out. I mean, the Patriots
Speaker 4: did score three, but they weren't able to score a
Speaker 4: touchdown to pull away. Is that progress because there have
Speaker 4: been some games this year where you needed to get
Speaker 4: that stop late and couldn't quite do it.
Speaker 13: Proads for sure, but that's not the standard, the standards
Speaker 13: to not even give up three. So, like I said,
Speaker 13: gotta go back to the dramare and just get better,
Speaker 13: get better.
Speaker 5: How much did you enjoy having this opportunity today?
Speaker 13: I met everything so mean, man, I ain't been out
Speaker 13: there in a very long time, so I appreciate my
Speaker 13: brother's always holding me down.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Jalen, congrats and a great game.
Speaker 9: Appreciate it.
Speaker 5: That's Jalen Davis.
Speaker 2: Jayalen Davis on his Afternoon We mentioned it earlier, taking
Speaker 2: advantage of our opportunities promoted from the practice squad plugged
Speaker 2: in and results that'll that'll give him some confidence and
Speaker 2: continue to give coaches confidence. At eight, he's earned some
Speaker 2: more opportunities.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. I mean, you see a guy that his path
Speaker 3: to the National Football League was a difficult one. You know,
Speaker 3: he wasn't the star you know at every level. Oh,
Speaker 3: I shouldn't say that. He was probably hell of a
Speaker 3: player at high school, college levels, but you know, the
Speaker 3: superstar kind of guy, the immediate Hall of Fame or
Speaker 3: the Pro Bowl kind of guy. He's not that type
Speaker 3: of player. But when the coaches put him out there
Speaker 3: and he makes plays, they start to gain confidence in him,
Speaker 3: and he starts to gain confidence. It's in his own
Speaker 3: ability to go out. It's like I knew I could
Speaker 3: do this at the NFL level. I just needed a shot.
Speaker 3: I needed an opportunity. I needed somebody to give me
Speaker 3: the chance. And the Cincinnati Bengals organization and Al Golden
Speaker 3: they're giving me the chance. They're giving the opportunity, and
Speaker 3: they're rewarding me. So I'm going to reward them.
Speaker 2: Two hours in the books, Hang Tight. More from Zach Taylor,
Speaker 2: more from Joe Flacco. We'll hear fun facts with Dylan Fairchaw.
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Speaker 2: Twenty six twenty the final Yesterday the Baltimore Ravens. Next
Speaker 2: up on Thursday. Here's Zach after the game on what
Speaker 2: transpired and what's ahead on Thursday night.
Speaker 8: Fight.
Speaker 6: Well, the fight, I mean, it is what it is.
Speaker 6: We're we don't we want to we don't appreciate losing.
Speaker 6: It's it's an awful feeling, sick. But our guys they
Speaker 6: just keep showing up. Man, they keep they keep doing
Speaker 6: a great job during the course of the week, keep
Speaker 6: practicing their tails off. They're giving everything they can on
Speaker 6: the field. We just came up short. You saw a
Speaker 6: different gait. You saw guys that have played all year force.
Speaker 6: You said, guys that came in there and got their
Speaker 6: first opportunities, Guys that came in there on a one
Speaker 6: play notice, and guys kept fighting, and we thought we
Speaker 6: were gonna win the game, and we came up short.
Speaker 6: And it's it's a sickening feeling. We can't question the
Speaker 6: fight for one second, and at some point that's gonna
Speaker 6: pay off for us.
Speaker 18: So to your decision as to why Joe burrow.
Speaker 6: Him to start, we'll see. I'm not going to declare
Speaker 6: anything for Thursday, yet, I thought he put himself in
Speaker 6: a great position to be ready to play this weekend,
Speaker 6: and the best decision for us was was to wait
Speaker 6: a couple more days. How's tea, Zach, He's in concussion
Speaker 6: protocol t Taj Taj Brooks, Marker got a hamstring and
Speaker 6: Flacco had a issue with his finger on staring.
Speaker 8: Hand dislocated, popped back in.
Speaker 6: I don't remember that's what That's what it sounded like
Speaker 6: at the time. I can't remember what the trainer storm.
Speaker 6: How do you feel like he played overall to FO Yeah,
Speaker 6: I think he continues to just fight for us, man
Speaker 6: and give us a chance and him and him and
Speaker 6: a lot of other guys in all three phases today,
Speaker 6: I thought he just kept fighting for us and he
Speaker 6: gave us chance to at the end of the game.
Speaker 6: He plays through a lot of pa and just keeps
Speaker 6: keeps giving us a chance to win. We just we
Speaker 6: just haven't able to do as team yet. What did
Speaker 6: you see defensively from alcol They felt like crazy. I
Speaker 6: mean they a lot of different ways. They didn't didn't
Speaker 6: allow things to be easy for New England, kept finding
Speaker 6: them in the goal line stands. I think representing who
Speaker 6: these guys are right now, just just keep coming back.
Speaker 6: Got a penalty first and goal on the one. Kept
Speaker 6: fighting got to stop and there's a lot of trust,
Speaker 6: you know when they keep playing that way. You know,
Speaker 6: I factor then the fourth and one. You know, we
Speaker 6: didn't go for fourth and one kind of in our
Speaker 6: own field position. I think we're on the minus forty,
Speaker 6: and like we could pin them down in there and
Speaker 6: get a stop and get the ball back right where
Speaker 6: we just kicked it from. And so again, I thought
Speaker 6: those guys fought for us, got to turn over a
Speaker 6: pick six, gave us some moment ium early in the game,
Speaker 6: and just keep leaving those guys. They're gonna keep fighting
Speaker 6: for us and finding away.
Speaker 12: In the game.
Speaker 8: You're out there trying to come back. No Jamar, no Ti, no,
Speaker 8: no Joe Burrow.
Speaker 11: Obviously, I mean, how does that challenge as it change
Speaker 11: the way you approached the call?
Speaker 8: How you do a driveway?
Speaker 6: Yeah, just a lot of credit to those guys out there,
Speaker 6: because those personnel groupings aren't things that we've ever operated
Speaker 6: out of before. And so guys just understand what position
Speaker 6: they're playing, who's in the game, Concepts that most of
Speaker 6: those guys have not worked all week, at least at
Speaker 6: the position they were probably playing. At the end of
Speaker 6: the game, I thought the coaches did a great job
Speaker 6: on the sidelines, the position coaches getting trying to cover
Speaker 6: every base. I mean, we have to cover the last
Speaker 6: plays on the move there AND's had the thirty yard
Speaker 6: line with guys that none of those guys have been
Speaker 6: in that position before, and so you still felt we
Speaker 6: were going to find a way. I mean, he's he
Speaker 6: takes an alert to Niche for a touchdown, you know,
Speaker 6: and that's that's the kind of game it was where
Speaker 6: guys just kept stepping up and you kept believing that
Speaker 6: that eventually we're going to find a way to win it.
Speaker 6: And just came up Cobo short.
Speaker 3: Oh what do you feel like kept the passing gave him?
Speaker 6: I think you got to give credits a New England.
Speaker 6: First of all, they're a well coached group. They play hard,
Speaker 6: they keep trying to keep you off balanced as much
Speaker 6: as they can, so you got to give them credit.
Speaker 6: And you know, there was some opportunit. I felt like
Speaker 6: there was a drive there in the second quarter. Some
Speaker 6: penalties just just bid us where I felt like we're
Speaker 6: getting some good momentum and then ended up having a punt.
Speaker 6: So just I don't think there's one thing you can
Speaker 6: put your finger on that that limited a rhythm. I
Speaker 6: do think you got to give a New England a
Speaker 6: lot of credit for that, and we just got to
Speaker 6: find a way to do a better job on the
Speaker 6: other side.
Speaker 8: What you see out of Jayalen Davis today, his first
Speaker 8: game up since.
Speaker 6: The nothing that surprised me. That's JD. I mean, JD
Speaker 6: has had an unbelievable attitude every day he's been this building.
Speaker 6: He's a fan favorite in the locker room because he
Speaker 6: just competes. He loves football. He embraces whatever role there's
Speaker 6: a scout team player on the practice, whatever it is,
Speaker 6: and then it's his opportunity. Hasn't playing a game all
Speaker 6: season and goes out there and and fights like crazy,
Speaker 6: you know, and gets a sack and doing a great
Speaker 6: job fit in the run game, draws a holding penalty
Speaker 6: on a run play, you know. So there there's a
Speaker 6: lot to love about JD. And I thought he stepped
Speaker 6: in there and did a nice shout for us, the
Speaker 6: same thing I'm just saying, you know, these guys are
Speaker 6: they're they're working, it's important to them. They're not giving
Speaker 6: up on each other. They keep trying to find a
Speaker 6: way to win. Just been in one of those years
Speaker 6: where we just we haven't found a way at the
Speaker 6: end of the game, and that's been frustrating. It's frustrating
Speaker 6: for everybody. But guys aren't losing hope. It's important to
Speaker 6: everybody to just keep at this thing and find a
Speaker 6: way to get someonement hum here. And it's gonna start
Speaker 6: with one win, and we just haven't foind a way
Speaker 6: to get that in a while since that Thursday night game,
Speaker 6: and that's disappointing. He is frustrating, his heartbreaking. I feel
Speaker 6: for these guys because they're giving us everything that we
Speaker 6: ask him to give us during the course of the
Speaker 6: week and out there on Sunday, and she just got
Speaker 6: to find a way to win, so we can remember
Speaker 6: what that feels like.
Speaker 16: We about Gino still multiple times just for him to
Speaker 16: plan the way he did today.
Speaker 6: Really excited to see that. You know, it's especially the
Speaker 6: turnover early in the game. Finish it in the end zone,
Speaker 6: something we've been talking about like crazy. It's going to
Speaker 6: come to us. We got to finish it in the
Speaker 6: end zone. We got to finish through the back of
Speaker 6: the end line. All the things that we've been talking about.
Speaker 3: He did.
Speaker 6: And again, he's just he's one of those guys gonna
Speaker 6: keep fighting for us and and find a way to
Speaker 6: find a win here. At some point at three and eight,
Speaker 6: what are y'all building wellment him for to just find
Speaker 6: a win.
Speaker 2: What do you what have you appreciated the most about
Speaker 2: the way flackloes balot this.
Speaker 6: Maybe, I mean you just you can't put into words.
Speaker 6: You know, he didn't owe anything of this team. He
Speaker 6: just showed up, you know, and so he could take
Speaker 6: the easy way out and nurse and injury and say,
Speaker 6: you know, I need more rest and all that stuff,
Speaker 6: and he has. He just keeps walking on the field
Speaker 6: and pops his finger out and whatever happened there, I'm
Speaker 6: hurting your throwing hands. Not easy, you know, to go
Speaker 6: out there and push through that. And Chake's response, he
Speaker 6: goes out, there's one pass for fifteen yards with not
Speaker 6: a moment's notice.
Speaker 5: And so.
Speaker 6: Just a lot of examples the guys just just wanting
Speaker 6: to do whatever it takes to find a win.
Speaker 16: To call a pass there with Jake coming in, I'm
Speaker 16: gonna have to run.
Speaker 3: And grab his helmet.
Speaker 6: There wasn't there wasn't a lot of choice there. I mean,
Speaker 6: we were we were down two scores, I think at
Speaker 6: that moment when Jake did it, and Jake went in
Speaker 6: there and did a great job, bought some time, found
Speaker 6: the backside crosser big completion. Appreciate that.
Speaker 7: What's that You've seen a lot of big kicks from
Speaker 7: having right before halftime sixty three yard or a new
Speaker 7: franchise record your thoughts on how it come out.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's in a great rhythm, has a lot of confidence.
Speaker 6: I think the operation has been really good, and so
Speaker 6: we have a lot of confidence in him. So it's
Speaker 6: not surprising, you know too, for him to take that
Speaker 6: opportunity that was the sixty three yards really didn't didn't
Speaker 6: bat an eye at it. I double checked it Darren,
Speaker 6: just to make sure we're in good shape there. He
Speaker 6: didn't hesitate, and then once we line up for the kick,
Speaker 6: you just assume what's going on. That's the point you're
Speaker 6: at with Evan right now.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so Mitch's ketch on Flimm said the impression of
Speaker 7: the catch, and then I guess they.
Speaker 3: Wanted to get the.
Speaker 6: That was the one right in front of me at
Speaker 6: our sideline. Yeah yeah, I mean just just you know,
Speaker 6: layered it right over the I think it was a
Speaker 6: nickel right there. Mitch did a great job securing it
Speaker 6: out of bounds. They didn't touch them, so they end
Speaker 6: up putting the time back on the clock. But it's
Speaker 6: it's a big moment for us, you know, fourth down
Speaker 6: and got to make a play and happy that it
Speaker 6: stepped up for us.
Speaker 2: What's probably the most frustrating thing about not being able
Speaker 2: to get more winds with the stint with flaccoing.
Speaker 6: That is the most frustrating thing. Losing. Losing is the worst.
Speaker 6: I mean it's the worst and you were accountable for it.
Speaker 6: We were. We make all the adjustments we've got to make,
Speaker 6: and then you got to turn the page and you
Speaker 6: gotta get ready for the next week. That's that's life
Speaker 6: in the NFL. We're gotta get ready for Thursday. So
Speaker 6: not a lot of time to sit here and.
Speaker 8: Do.
Speaker 6: We just got to move forward and we got to
Speaker 6: go back to work and I know these guys are
Speaker 6: gonna do that, and we got to do it great
Speaker 6: energy and belief that we're gonna walk on that field
Speaker 6: and go find a win on Thursday night on the road.
Speaker 6: And that's that's what we're gonna set forth to do
Speaker 6: and start tomorrow morning with.
Speaker 3: A situation when you know who's starting today.
Speaker 6: Flat do on front. You know on Friday was started.
Speaker 14: Exactly he going down when he did lay in the
Speaker 14: game Uh, we're obviously going a short week now and
Speaker 14: this pops up.
Speaker 7: That's big questions there in the last couple of minutes,
Speaker 7: is that I feel like reassurance just for the passing
Speaker 7: game overall.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought a lot of guys stepped up, you know,
Speaker 6: so again they they've shown that we should have confidence
Speaker 6: and then you know, and I think that's just what's
Speaker 6: been built up over there with with a lot of
Speaker 6: the skill players on offenses, as you put them in,
Speaker 6: you expect them to make a play, and then they
Speaker 6: keep showing up for us.
Speaker 18: With the lost today, I'm Tripp's question is surprised you.
Speaker 18: There'll be a lot of talk externally about why the
Speaker 18: organization feels that it's in the best interested Joe if
Speaker 18: you do decide to play him, communities to address what
Speaker 18: what you guys are factoring.
Speaker 2: In the pit.
Speaker 6: Yeah, winning is important. We want to win, and Joe
Speaker 6: gives us a great chance to win. And again Flacco
Speaker 6: has has given us every every opportunity. We haven't lost
Speaker 6: games because of Joe Flacco. He's gone out there and
Speaker 6: give us everything and he understands that. That being said,
Speaker 6: Walls will be excited to watch Joe Burrow. We all
Speaker 6: have Joe Brown now for six years and see the
Speaker 6: things he can do as well. And so again it's
Speaker 6: it's he's worked really hard to get himself back. He's
Speaker 6: a football player. He wants to play football. We want
Speaker 6: to win football games, and so that will lead into
Speaker 6: that decision.
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor after the game yesterday, Dave, if there were
Speaker 2: one play I'd like to go back and I could
Speaker 2: rewrite or recall. And it's been to bug me for
Speaker 2: a while. The third and one from the forty five,
Speaker 2: and they they have Joe Flacco throws leading to fourth
Speaker 2: and one. There was a delay a game. They wound
Speaker 2: up putting on a as soon as Joe Flacco dropped
Speaker 2: on third and one to throw, and I'm screaming, they're
Speaker 2: averaging five yards of carriages. Run the ball and move
Speaker 2: the chains to keep the drive going. And it's didn't
Speaker 2: happen just bumping that one, my man. I just as
Speaker 2: soon as he dropped back, I screamed, like it's slow motion.
Speaker 3: Yes, I am with you. I'm with you.
Speaker 2: Call me old school. The third and one run the
Speaker 2: damn football.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, every once in a while, yeah,
Speaker 3: play action pass, you know, particularly get your running game established,
Speaker 3: your running game going, you know, trying to throw it
Speaker 3: over their heads and make a huge play, a difference
Speaker 3: maker in the course of the football game. But I mean,
Speaker 3: nine times out of ten third and one, run the football,
Speaker 3: get a fresh set of downs, do more damage, probe
Speaker 3: a little bit, find out what the defense is trying
Speaker 3: to do.
Speaker 2: I mean, and it's not like they were if they
Speaker 2: were struggling to run. Maybe you could debate it. And
Speaker 2: I know he believed in his defense at that point.
Speaker 2: He said, I know the defense is playing well, but
Speaker 2: your average in five yards a pop, and you just
Speaker 2: need one on third and one.
Speaker 3: And I'll guarantee you Mike Vrabel can count on one
Speaker 3: hand the number of times his team gave up five
Speaker 3: and a half yards of carry in a game for
Speaker 3: the entire football game. I mean, that's that's a heck
Speaker 3: of an accomplishment. And man, on third and one, do
Speaker 3: what you're doing.
Speaker 2: Well that game. I one more to wrap up the segment,
Speaker 2: what did you make after seeing the Patriots first hand?
Speaker 2: They're a team that there's a lot of debate, and
Speaker 2: actually they haven't played the toughest of schedules. I get that,
Speaker 2: but they've won nine in the row. They're ten and two,
Speaker 2: and you referenced last week, there's not a lot of
Speaker 2: like Pro Bowlers or big names that jump out. They
Speaker 2: almost feel like one of those, greater than the some
Speaker 2: of their parts and taking on the personality their coach
Speaker 2: and go and doing more than you would think they'd
Speaker 2: be able to do.
Speaker 3: I think you hit on it right there, Lance, I
Speaker 3: think they are taking on the personality of Mike Vrabel.
Speaker 3: Mike Vrabel was an extremely high football IQ player. I
Speaker 3: mean gifted physically, big, you know, broad shalden, big outside linebacker,
Speaker 3: the rush guy for Ohio State, and I mean he
Speaker 3: trans translated well to the National Football League and Bill Belichick.
Speaker 3: I'm sure Mike Vrabel even learned more football. I mean
Speaker 3: he got his master's and doctorate from from Bill Belichick
Speaker 3: playing for him for the number of years that he did.
Speaker 3: But you know, I think that that the New England
Speaker 3: Patriots are a viable playoff team. I mean they shoot there.
Speaker 3: They're the best team in the AFC right now, you know,
Speaker 3: so you've got to give them their props. You gotta
Speaker 3: give them their just due. And the Bengals hung right
Speaker 3: with them. I mean it wasn't like they didn't belong
Speaker 3: on that same football. Yeah.
Speaker 2: More ahead, We'll hear a little bit more from Joe
Speaker 2: Flacco up next as we continue on with Bengals line
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Speaker 2: Here's more from Joe Flacco yesterday again one hundred and
Speaker 2: eighty three yards through the air, the touchdown, and the
Speaker 2: thoughts on yesterday and the thoughts on what might be
Speaker 2: ahead with the potential return of Joe Burrow on Thursday night.
Speaker 2: Here is Joe Flacco.
Speaker 18: I just want to follow up on what you were
Speaker 18: saying about how it's your job to get ready. Is
Speaker 18: it hard to deal with the situation you're going to
Speaker 18: for the next whether it's a few days or two
Speaker 18: leaves in the storyline, about what you joke, go back
Speaker 18: in that if you do end up being his backup
Speaker 18: whenever he comes.
Speaker 3: Like you didn't lose your job because of the.
Speaker 6: Results, saying like you're playing really well or or you're
Speaker 6: not a part.
Speaker 8: Like does it make it that much harder to accept?
Speaker 3: Or like what's this like for you? Behind the scenes?
Speaker 7: I think as a competitor, you're always want to be
Speaker 7: out there on the field. I mean, this is what
Speaker 7: I live to do, is go out in that field
Speaker 7: and play football. But at the same time, I feel
Speaker 7: really fortunate to have kind of found myself in this situation.
Speaker 7: As much as I would have loved to see us
Speaker 7: win games, I still have had a lot of fun
Speaker 7: here with these guys in the locker room. Going out
Speaker 7: lacing them up with these guys has been a lot
Speaker 7: of fun. And I've felt right home and have had
Speaker 7: a blast doing it. And I don't think I really
Speaker 7: am looking anything past that. You know, I get it,
Speaker 7: I get how certain feelings could be involved with this,
Speaker 7: but in this case, it's you know, it's easy for
Speaker 7: me to kind of put those aside and just look
Speaker 7: at the positives of the whole thing, and you know,
Speaker 7: and be excited for another teammate trying to work his
Speaker 7: way back. So it might sound like crap and like
Speaker 7: I'm lying, And yeah, there is a tough part of
Speaker 7: not being out there.
Speaker 8: There always is.
Speaker 7: But I feel like I've put my head down and
Speaker 7: worked hard the last however long it's been, and I've
Speaker 7: had a lot of fun with these guys, and it's
Speaker 7: always it's always, I don't know, it's just always, I
Speaker 7: don't know.
Speaker 8: I keep saying fun, but I want to say something else.
Speaker 7: But when you're in there with guys and you make
Speaker 7: relationships with them, and you're out there battling on the
Speaker 7: field with them and you can look each other in
Speaker 7: the eyes and know that you've been doing out the
Speaker 7: right way, then you really can't worry about the other things.
Speaker 8: You just are going out there playing and let the
Speaker 8: rest of it take care of yourself. Is that I
Speaker 8: think That's what I think.
Speaker 7: That's ultimately kind of the secret in terms of like
Speaker 7: playing football is like you want things right, you want
Speaker 7: things to happen, but there's got to be a piece
Speaker 7: that lets it happen.
Speaker 8: You know, you can't force things, and you can't try to.
Speaker 8: You know, you just can't.
Speaker 7: And I think as you get older and the more
Speaker 7: you play and the more you just experience everything, you
Speaker 7: realize that you know, you get you gain a little
Speaker 7: bit of perspective and you realize and then and then
Speaker 7: there's times in the moment where you still want to
Speaker 7: try to do too much or whatever it is, and
Speaker 7: worry about what's happening at the end. But I think
Speaker 7: the more you do it, you do find out that
Speaker 7: the secret is to just go out there and do
Speaker 7: what you love to do to the best of your
Speaker 7: ability and let the things fall in place. And I
Speaker 7: think if you get a collective group of guys doing that,
Speaker 7: then you have then you have what you want.
Speaker 11: Two quick things, just to circle back on the game
Speaker 11: real quick, is the lack of rhythm maybe affect how
Speaker 11: you see the field?
Speaker 6: Is that is that is there a correlationship probably how
Speaker 6: you saw today the rhythm.
Speaker 7: No, I mean it's it's you know, it's good defense
Speaker 7: and maybe not as good of offense as we would like.
Speaker 7: And that's what good teams do. Like even like today,
Speaker 7: it didn't feel like anything crazy, but it was harder
Speaker 7: because they just are good at what they do and
Speaker 7: they make it tough for you to complete underneath passes.
Speaker 7: You know, there's times where you drop the ball down
Speaker 7: underneath and you get twenty five yard games and stuff
Speaker 7: like that. And these guys, because they they're able to
Speaker 7: rally the ball and do things like that, they make it.
Speaker 7: They make those things hard. They're not going to give
Speaker 7: you anything, and listen, this is the type of games.
Speaker 7: This is the type of game it ends up being
Speaker 7: when you put when you go against good teams, it's
Speaker 7: twenty six to twenty and you have a chance to win.
Speaker 7: It's kind of how we felt like the game against
Speaker 7: Pittsburgh should have probably went last week, but we made mistakes.
Speaker 7: Obviously we did make a mistake in this game, but
Speaker 7: ultimately we didn't.
Speaker 8: We kept the game within striking distance and we just
Speaker 8: weren't able to get it done.
Speaker 16: Again, it's tefinitely going going back to the win, one
Speaker 16: questioning was going, what's it?
Speaker 6: What was it like kind of walking off? What was
Speaker 6: running through your mind as you walked off the field.
Speaker 3: At the end of that one? What were you thinking about?
Speaker 7: I don't know, the same thing you're probably always thinking
Speaker 7: when you know you come up a little short, you're
Speaker 7: just a little bit you know, you're thinking about what
Speaker 7: you could have done on the last couple of plays
Speaker 7: and can't wait to go look at it and maybe
Speaker 7: see what you could have done and beat yourself up
Speaker 7: about it a little bit.
Speaker 6: The same as always your feel like tomorrow compared to
Speaker 6: thirty one.
Speaker 8: I think playing quarterback, it's always week to week.
Speaker 7: Sometimes you get really beat up and sometimes you play
Speaker 7: really physical games and other times you don't. And I
Speaker 7: really don't think because I'm forty, I feel different waking up.
Speaker 7: I mean, everybody always says that you know, once you
Speaker 7: hit thirty or once you hit forty, wait till you
Speaker 7: get out of bed and this happens. Yeah, I have
Speaker 7: to stay on top of things more. But in terms
Speaker 7: of waking up and how my body, how my body reacts,
Speaker 7: I'm so much better at taking care of myself and
Speaker 7: like and actually doing the things to prepare your body
Speaker 7: for success than I was when I was twenty five
Speaker 7: years old. So I think the if there is any
Speaker 7: drop off at forty, it just it makes up that
Speaker 7: you're a little bit more aware of how of how
Speaker 7: to do things.
Speaker 3: So how often do you get to top your finger?
Speaker 9: Is that common when you have to do that mid
Speaker 9: game before or.
Speaker 8: Is that I've never I've never done that. I've never
Speaker 8: had to do it.
Speaker 6: I mean, I didn't feel like much.
Speaker 8: I mean I didn't know I did it until I looked.
Speaker 7: Down at it, and then I came over and Matt
Speaker 7: just popped it in, you know, popped it back into place,
Speaker 7: and then it was just like, Okay, I can throw.
Speaker 3: Yeah there you go.
Speaker 11: Serious?
Speaker 3: What that first throw?
Speaker 9: I was going to feel like after you popped it
Speaker 9: back in?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was.
Speaker 7: I threw a couple of balls in the sideline and
Speaker 7: Jake did a good job completed the ball, and you know,
Speaker 7: but I didn't want.
Speaker 8: To let him have too much fun out there.
Speaker 2: So Flaco after the game, and I want to go
Speaker 2: back to something you said because I think it makes
Speaker 2: so much sense. In twenty twenty six, Joe Flacco will
Speaker 2: be forty one in January. Could there be a team
Speaker 2: that offers him a starting job? Maybe not likely. So
Speaker 2: if you're if you're Joe Flacco and you like being
Speaker 2: here and you could be the backup to Joe Burrow
Speaker 2: and make a nice amount of money in a system
Speaker 2: you're comfortable in. He'd be an awfully nice insurance policy
Speaker 2: for this football team to have as the backup quarterback.
Speaker 3: No question, man. I mean that whatever premium they're paying,
Speaker 3: it's worth. Yes, Joe Flacco as the backup quarterback. And
Speaker 3: I do think that he's got a lot of respect
Speaker 3: for for what Zach Taylor's mentality is from an offensive standpoint.
Speaker 3: I think he realizes that Zach Taylor is an offensive
Speaker 3: guy as such and understands the game. I think he
Speaker 3: likes Dan Pitcher. I think he likes all the offensive coaches.
Speaker 3: I think he thinks they're young, very exciting and intelligent
Speaker 3: guys to be around. So and I think he and
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow have right away established a bond that is
Speaker 3: is significant. I think Joe Flacco could do a lot
Speaker 3: worse than come back and be a member of the
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bengals. Up next, Dylan Fairchild the subject of fantastic
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Speaker 2: Fun Facts, a chance to go behind the scenes, pull
Speaker 2: the curtain back and learn more about a Bengal player
Speaker 2: beyond just the player in him. And this week the
Speaker 2: subject the spotlight on Dylan Fairchild. Here is Fantastic Fun Facts.
Speaker 1: No fantastic fun facts with Dan Ord.
Speaker 4: Time for some fun facts with offensive lineman Dylan Fairchild
Speaker 4: from Coming, Georgia, about forty minutes north of Atlanta, the
Speaker 4: birthplace of country music stars Zach Brown, among others. Your
Speaker 4: excellence as a high school wrestler is a big part
Speaker 4: of your bio. It's a sport that's not for everybody.
Speaker 4: Why did you enjoy it so much?
Speaker 9: I just love the grit. You know, it's a gritty sport.
Speaker 9: It's a difficult thing to do. I didn't love it
Speaker 9: every day, but some of those days I remember, like I,
Speaker 9: you know, there were Sundays. Every Sunday my dad would
Speaker 9: take me to go to my gym and wrestle, and
Speaker 9: just I that was one of those days. We're growing up,
Speaker 9: like I didn't really want to go on Sunday, But
Speaker 9: now that I look back, I realized, like those sundays
Speaker 9: were obviously we're playing athletics on Sundays now, so you know,
Speaker 9: like it. I think that kind of just like put
Speaker 9: discipline into me even more, because you know, there's nothing
Speaker 9: better than just sitting at home chilling on Sunday, but
Speaker 9: when you're over there grinding and stuff like it just
Speaker 9: really put me, put some core values in my in
Speaker 9: my brain and in my body, and just you know,
Speaker 9: helped me develop as a person the most.
Speaker 4: You were an undefeated state champion as a junior and
Speaker 4: as a senior. What was your fastest pin?
Speaker 9: Oh gosh, I don't even know. I think it was
Speaker 9: like four seconds. This guy like he just rolled over.
Speaker 9: I was like, are you serious?
Speaker 3: No, it was it was.
Speaker 9: It was pretty ridiculous.
Speaker 5: I was.
Speaker 3: I was shocked.
Speaker 9: I didn't even like he just immediately shook hands and
Speaker 9: basically laid down. I was like, Wow, this is crazy.
Speaker 4: Be nice if defensive lineman did that, No, that'd be great.
Speaker 9: He's so great.
Speaker 4: On the flip side, did anybody give you a really
Speaker 4: good match in those last two years?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 9: Absolutely, there was a couple of great guys. There's a
Speaker 9: kid from Central I ends up forgetting his name central Verscyth.
Speaker 9: It's a really tough kid, like impossible to try to
Speaker 9: turn and pin. My hardest match ever was a kid
Speaker 9: named Tamari Fox. He went to un C North Carolina
Speaker 9: and played I believe DN there and it was just
Speaker 9: a stud athlete like he gave me, by far, the
Speaker 9: hardest match I remember walking away from. I ended up losing.
Speaker 9: I walked away and I wasn't even upset because I
Speaker 9: just I gave everything I had. I threw up profusely
Speaker 9: in the bathroom and was like, I knew I emptied
Speaker 9: the tank. So that was by far, Like that was
Speaker 9: one of my most thrilling matches, even though I lost,
Speaker 9: So it was just fun. Sounds like something you grew from.
Speaker 9: Absolutely Yeah, No, I knew, like I've been training for
Speaker 9: him for months and months and months at a time.
Speaker 9: And after the match, I mean I was gonna be
Speaker 9: so I pre pre match and pre tournament. It was
Speaker 9: a state tournament, so I was like, I wanted to
Speaker 9: win really bad, and I thought I'd be really upset,
Speaker 9: but I wasn't because I knew like I had given
Speaker 9: everything and I learned a lesson that day, Like when
Speaker 9: you give everything you've got, like it's everything you got,
Speaker 9: you know, so win or lose, you at least can
Speaker 9: go to sleep knowing everything you gave everything you had
Speaker 9: to try to get a win, you know that day.
Speaker 9: So sometimes it just doesn't turn out in your favor.
Speaker 4: We're chatting a Dylan Fairchild. You're from Georgia and you
Speaker 4: went to Georgia. You played at the University of Was
Speaker 4: that the dream growing up?
Speaker 9: I think so? Yeah, I think so. I knew I honestly, like,
Speaker 9: I didn't know what I was gonna do. I thought
Speaker 9: I was going to wrestle for a long time. Then
Speaker 9: I thought I was gonna play football, Then I thought
Speaker 9: I was gonna wrestle. Like I was kind of back
Speaker 9: and forth. But as always a Georgia fan. I was
Speaker 9: always watching those national championships when they were in it,
Speaker 9: and just somehow it pulls through. I'm not gonna I'm
Speaker 9: not gonna talk about it, but no, but I was
Speaker 9: definitely a Georgia fan my whole life. My dad raised
Speaker 9: me a Georgia fan. We always pulled for the dogs,
Speaker 9: and I just knew that was the place to go.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 9: It was the hardest place I could possibly go to
Speaker 9: other than one more and I'm not gonna mention it
Speaker 9: happens to be our neighbor. But you know, those two
Speaker 9: programs are by far the best programs you know at
Speaker 9: the time, and we're the toughest programs, had the best recruits.
Speaker 5: And so.
Speaker 9: But it was a no brainer for me. If I
Speaker 9: was gonna challenge myself, that's the place to do it.
Speaker 4: We learned from your college teammate of Marius Mims, that
Speaker 4: your nickname at Georgia was Pickle. What is the origin
Speaker 4: story of the pickle nickname?
Speaker 9: Mimmes was the one who started it. I don't even know.
Speaker 9: I think I honestly couldn't tell you. I have no idea.
Speaker 9: I think Memes this one day said it and it
Speaker 9: just stuck, and then all the boys, all the guys
Speaker 9: started calling calling me Pickle, and it just we just
Speaker 9: wrote it out from there on.
Speaker 3: And that was it.
Speaker 4: Since Mimes is in the building here, has that nickname
Speaker 4: migrated to Cincinnati.
Speaker 9: It has with Memes. Yeah, I think I'll always be
Speaker 9: Pickled to Memes. But I don't think some of these
Speaker 9: older guys are going to buy into that.
Speaker 4: You're a twenty two year old rookie and a married man.
Speaker 4: You got married about a month before the NFL draft.
Speaker 4: Why did you and Elizabeth decide to get married at
Speaker 4: such an early age.
Speaker 9: I think it's just the way I grew up. My
Speaker 9: parents were divorced, and I just I love God and
Speaker 9: I love her, and I knew that she has led
Speaker 9: me to success in ways that you know, it's hard
Speaker 9: for me to you know, reciprocate, and like she's just
Speaker 9: given me a piece to be able to come here
Speaker 9: every single day and do my job and fully focus
Speaker 9: on my job. And that's really what I want, you know.
Speaker 9: And I love her the most out of any you know,
Speaker 9: anything and anyone other than the Lord above. And I
Speaker 9: knew that we were going to pursue, continue to pursue God,
Speaker 9: and continue to pursu to each other. So there was
Speaker 9: really no questions, you know, there was just that The
Speaker 9: answer was we wanted to get married, and it was quick.
Speaker 9: It was a free wedding, so we actually didn't go
Speaker 9: like we didn't e lope, but it wasn't like a
Speaker 9: full wedding, so it was It's pretty cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 9: I'm glad that we did it. She's glad we did it,
Speaker 9: and I wouldn't want it any other way.
Speaker 4: We're chatting with Dylan Fairchild. So a month after that,
Speaker 4: really big day came the other one when you were
Speaker 4: selected in the third round by the Bengals in this
Speaker 4: year's draft. Describe that entire day. I know, it can
Speaker 4: be really stressful leading up to getting the phone call
Speaker 4: from Zach Taylor.
Speaker 9: No, it was extremely stressful.
Speaker 5: I was.
Speaker 9: I was really The third round was where we were
Speaker 9: helping me, my agent, just my whole family. You know,
Speaker 9: obviously you want to continue to do better and better,
Speaker 9: but you know, that was where we had hopefully predicted
Speaker 9: where I would go, and I did not know it
Speaker 9: would be at Cincinnati. I had no idea. This was
Speaker 9: one of the last places I had on my mind
Speaker 9: of where I thought I would be too. I just
Speaker 9: we had a couple of meetings, but it just wasn't,
Speaker 9: you know, like it wasn't just it wasn't what I thought,
Speaker 9: you know, And so there were some picks, you know,
Speaker 9: at some times where they slipped by and I was like, oh,
Speaker 9: you know, we may be waiting another day, and then
Speaker 9: my friend started ringing, and it just the whole day,
Speaker 9: it was just like that was probably the most stressed
Speaker 9: out I think I've ever been, because there was nothing,
Speaker 9: nothing I could do. Nothing's in your control, you know,
Speaker 9: like it's all in God's hands, it's all in the
Speaker 9: coach's hands, in the in the owner's hands. So there's
Speaker 9: nothing that you can really do about it besides just
Speaker 9: sit and wait. And that feeling is kind of scary,
Speaker 9: you know, you just sitting there waiting to get a
Speaker 9: phone call. But and when I did, I I couldn't
Speaker 9: even believe it. Like I just answered the phone and
Speaker 9: I felt so robotic. I was like hello, you know,
Speaker 9: and so it was it was really a huge blessing,
Speaker 9: and like I just, you know, I was so shocked
Speaker 9: and just couldn't believe it. And I was just immediately
Speaker 9: so blessed. And you know, you're nervous, is you don't,
Speaker 9: you know, you'd love to be anywhere on any NFL team,
Speaker 9: But it's scary, you know, growing up in Georgia. Going
Speaker 9: to Georgia, you could move literally completely across the entire country,
Speaker 9: coast to coast. So it's really cool being like I'm
Speaker 9: still on the East coast, just being close to home,
Speaker 9: like it's a seven hour drive, which is and I
Speaker 9: love the drive too, so it was really awesome to
Speaker 9: just it's a huge blessing, you know, it was immediate blessing.
Speaker 9: Just my whole family and my mom started crying. It
Speaker 9: was awesome. It was awesome.
Speaker 4: We're having this visit about midway through your rookie year.
Speaker 4: How would you describe your first NFL season to day?
Speaker 9: I'm just trying to be a sponge, you know, and
Speaker 9: just absorb, absorb, absorb all the information and knowledge I
Speaker 9: can and then on Sunday, just letting it fly, you know,
Speaker 9: just letting it go. Treating every day as if I
Speaker 9: have nothing to lose, you know, and that's the only
Speaker 9: way I know how to do it, and just going
Speaker 9: you know, the balls of the wall. There's no other
Speaker 9: way to put it. It's just hard every day, you know,
Speaker 9: just go hard every day. And yeah, that's really all
Speaker 9: I It's all I do is I try to look
Speaker 9: forward every single day all right.
Speaker 4: Time for a few wild card topics now with Dylan Fairchild,
Speaker 4: who is your all time favorite athlete in any sport?
Speaker 9: And why, I'd probably have to say Nate Dia is
Speaker 9: my favorite. Yeah, you know, I don't I don't know
Speaker 9: if you know, is that like a UFC guy fighter? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 9: he uh, he's just a dog like he's not He's
Speaker 9: just one of those guys. It's like he doesn't ever stop,
Speaker 9: Like he just doesn't quit ever. You know, they say
Speaker 9: Nate Diez doesn't lose fights. He just runs out of time,
Speaker 9: you know. Like he he's just one of those guys
Speaker 9: that nobody wants to fight because he's just a dog,
Speaker 9: like he has no inch of care in his body
Speaker 9: and he's willing to put it all out there on
Speaker 9: the line every time. And I feel the same way.
Speaker 9: You know, I don't think i'd do what he does.
Speaker 9: But he's a little he's just a couple of steps
Speaker 9: above us. But he's probably my favorite guy that I
Speaker 9: look to. Is just like inspiration. Like when things don't
Speaker 9: go well, Like he's a nasty dude, you know, and
Speaker 9: things don't go well for him, you know, it might
Speaker 9: be vulgar, but he gives him the middle finger and
Speaker 9: like he just keeps going, you know. And that's that's
Speaker 9: the way my father raised me. That's the way that
Speaker 9: I've I've been you know, taught my whole life. And
Speaker 9: I just love he embodies that. So he's probably my
Speaker 9: favorite for sure.
Speaker 4: Final fun fact for Dylan Fairchild. This one's a little
Speaker 4: bit deep. If you could meet anybody in history, living
Speaker 4: or deceased, who would that person be?
Speaker 9: I go Jesus, Absolutely, yeah, no, I would. I'd love
Speaker 9: to meet Jesus. Hopefully That's where I'm going, you know,
Speaker 9: one day. But that was absolutely who I would go
Speaker 9: to meet for sure.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 9: I try to root myself in that and just ground
Speaker 9: myself no matter what happens, good or bad, and just
Speaker 9: live live that life, you know, and I do a
Speaker 9: better job talking about it than being about it, you know,
Speaker 9: just being honest with you and fall short like everybody else.
Speaker 9: But again, like I just try to live with that
Speaker 9: that type of love you know, in my heart and
Speaker 9: just love and forget people. And that's just again like
Speaker 9: my wife does an amazing job of just bringing me
Speaker 9: back to that base level every day.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 9: She's absolutely the reason that I was brought back to
Speaker 9: the Lord and she's my rock. And so yeah, no
Speaker 9: it it'd be Jesus for sure.
Speaker 5: This has been fun.
Speaker 4: Really appreciate your time, best of luck the rest of
Speaker 4: the year.
Speaker 9: Fair Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Dylan Fairchild with Dan Horde. More of that and more
Speaker 2: Bengals stuff on the Bengals Booth podcast if you want
Speaker 2: to catch up there. Up next, let's talk about those
Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens. Next in the sights of the Bengals on
Speaker 2: Thursday night, as we roll on with Bengals Line on
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Speaker 2: We are a cruise and right along this Monday night
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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. Dave, always time for our final card.
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Speaker 2: All right, Next up those Baltimore Ravens. Thursday night in Baltimore,
Speaker 2: Ravens started one in five. They're now six and five.
Speaker 2: They've won five straight, beat the Jets yesterday twenty three
Speaker 2: to ten, and Dave, the thing that jumps out immediately
Speaker 2: about what they have done during this turnaround. They're playing
Speaker 2: much better defense. In their first five games, they gave
Speaker 2: up one hundred and seventy seven points. Yeah, the most
Speaker 2: in a five game sequence in the history of the franchise.
Speaker 2: They were given up thirty five points a game. But
Speaker 2: in the last six they've held each opponent under twenty points.
Speaker 2: They've allowed seventeen, sixteen, six, nineteen, sixteen, fifteen. They have
Speaker 2: gotten that defense in order.
Speaker 3: They certainly have. And as you said, in the beginning
Speaker 3: of the season, they gave forty one to Buffalo, Oh,
Speaker 3: they gave up forty one to Cleveland. He give up
Speaker 3: thirty eight to Detroit, thirty seven of Kansas City, forty
Speaker 3: forty Houston Man. The Rams game was seventeen to three,
Speaker 3: and then they went on their five game They lost
Speaker 3: that Rams game, then they went on their five game
Speaker 3: winning streak. So, I mean, the defense has really turned
Speaker 3: it around and they're playing much like the defense that
Speaker 3: John Harbaugh was expecting. And they've they've got players. I mean,
Speaker 3: there's there's no question about it. You look at every
Speaker 3: level or layer of the of the defense. They've they've
Speaker 3: got players. Brent Urban is a good defensive end, good
Speaker 3: rush guy. Rookie Mike Green is making some noise, Rokwan
Speaker 3: Smith at middle linebacker, Kyle van Noy at a strong
Speaker 3: side outside backer, Kyle Hamilton at the strong safety position
Speaker 3: is a crazy athlete, Marlon Humphrey at corner. They've got
Speaker 3: players on that defensive football team and it is amazing
Speaker 3: to me that they were given up thirty five games. Yeah,
Speaker 3: for the first six games of the season. It's nuts.
Speaker 2: On the other side of Lamar Jackson has dealt with
Speaker 2: a lot of injuries throughout the season. They're they're winning
Speaker 2: with the defense and a run game. I saw a
Speaker 2: note this morning. Lamar has gone three straight games without
Speaker 2: throwing for two hundred yards, first time that's happened in
Speaker 2: five years. And he's gone back to back games without
Speaker 2: throwing a touchdown, the first time that's happened in six years.
Speaker 2: But when you have somebody like Derreck Henry, you can
Speaker 2: tote the ball at four point seven yards at carry
Speaker 2: and is really tough to tackle, you've you've got a chance.
Speaker 2: And he's he's rolling like, oh, he never gets old.
Speaker 2: It seems he just keeps rolling right along.
Speaker 8: It is.
Speaker 3: It's incredible. And the guy his size, he is a
Speaker 3: physical specimen, there's no question about it. And they're one
Speaker 3: of the only teams in the NFL that still run
Speaker 3: a true fullback offensively, and Patrick Ricard who can. He's
Speaker 3: very versatile, he can play both ways. He gets them
Speaker 3: some defensive snaps at defensive tackle, so he's he's an
Speaker 3: unbelievable football player. Mark Andrews at tight end is a force.
Speaker 3: You know, they say Flowers at the receiver position can
Speaker 3: can take it deep for shot Bateman or rookie is
Speaker 3: playing well for them. But I do think I think
Speaker 3: it's gonna come down to who runs the ball best
Speaker 3: in this football game. I think both defenses are going
Speaker 3: to really try to, you know, stack the line of
Speaker 3: scrimmage to stop the running game. And who's going to
Speaker 3: be able to solve that equation?
Speaker 2: We were talking off air. I looked at the weather
Speaker 2: forecast this morning for Thursday in Baltimore. I saw at
Speaker 2: night thirty two degrees windy with gusting wins up to
Speaker 2: twenty five miles an hour. If that doesn't screen me
Speaker 2: better run the football.
Speaker 3: I don't know what does. Yeah, absolutely, particularly that win,
Speaker 3: you know, I mean thirty two that's chilli. Yeah. But players,
Speaker 3: you know, the players can handle freezing temperature, literally freezing
Speaker 3: at thirty two degrees on the thermometer. But man that
Speaker 3: win twenty five miles an hour. That's a stiff Reezon
Speaker 3: now that will that'll move the football around on you
Speaker 3: a little bit. Boy.
Speaker 2: In the two names you mentioned offensively, Derrick Henry, we've
Speaker 2: mentioned Bengals gotta tackle better. He better tackle Derek Henry
Speaker 2: out in trouble covering the tight end. Better cover Andrews,
Speaker 2: who haves He has five touchdowns, He's second on the
Speaker 2: team in touchdowns this year, to go with his thirty
Speaker 2: three catches.
Speaker 3: And he's been a Bengal killer. Yes, he has hurt
Speaker 3: the Bengals multiple times. I mean, I will tell you
Speaker 3: that there's no question Marvin lewis just. I mean, he
Speaker 3: respected the Baltimore Ravens. But the guy that hurt him
Speaker 3: and gave him tremendous headaches of Mark Andrews.
Speaker 2: Let's take our final time out. When we continue, Dave tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Could he a significant day for our guy? Ken Anderson
Speaker 2: is the next step in the cutdown to the Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame. Let's talk about that as we continue. He's
Speaker 2: Dave Lapham, I'm Lance, but callister. It's Bengals on on
Speaker 2: the Bengals Radio Network at ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station.
Speaker 2: All right, down there we go, final segment of the
Speaker 2: night on the show We Call Bengals on and the
Speaker 2: Bengals Radio Network in ESPN fifteen thirty on Lance Bacallister,
Speaker 2: He is Dave Lapham and Tomorrow a significant day. Nine
Speaker 2: individuals have reached the semi finalist stage in the seniors
Speaker 2: category for the Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. They started at one hundred and eighty
Speaker 2: two nominees. They're down to nine semi finalists.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 2: The Blue Ribbon Committee meets tomorrow Tuesday to determine three
Speaker 2: former players who become finalist for the new class, and
Speaker 2: that will be unveiled early in December. The nine semi
Speaker 2: finalists at this point Roger Craig, Henry Ellard, L. C. Greenwood,
Speaker 2: Joe Jacobi, Eddie Medder, Stanley Morgan, Steve Tasker, Otis Taylor,
Speaker 2: and our guy Kenny Anderson is one more cutdown away
Speaker 2: from advancing to the finals for the Pro Football Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame. Big day tomorrow. Best of luck to Kenny,
Speaker 2: Best to luck to Kenny and all. Though those guys
Speaker 2: were great football players, but they didn't play quarterback. Ken
Speaker 2: Anderson played quarterback the.
Speaker 3: Most important position in all of sports, not just football,
Speaker 3: I mean all of sports. That's what's being said by
Speaker 3: everybody that follows sports these days. And Kenny Anderson played
Speaker 3: it so well. I'll tell you what. Bill Walsh was
Speaker 3: amazed when he went up to Tiny Augustan and worked
Speaker 3: out Kenny Anderson. And I remember him coming back saying
Speaker 3: that the report that he filed, I saw a copy
Speaker 3: of it. Mike Brown, let me read the copy of it.
Speaker 3: How accurate he said. This kid throws the football as
Speaker 3: accurately as I have ever seen. He should be a
Speaker 3: first round pick, but he might be there in rounds
Speaker 3: two and three, and we got to be ready to
Speaker 3: pull the trigger. Man, oh man.
Speaker 2: I don't know who makes up the Blue Ribbon committee
Speaker 2: that is making this final decision. I just I feel
Speaker 2: sometimes that I'd like to take some voters who might
Speaker 2: be on a younger side and drop him into football
Speaker 2: in the seventies and eighties and understand the way the
Speaker 2: game was played then compared to now. I understand just
Speaker 2: how good Kenny. Kenny would have been good in any era.
Speaker 2: But just I don't want him short changed because the
Speaker 2: numbers may be different than a than a Drew Brees,
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, Peyton, somebody from this era, right, It just
Speaker 2: it should translate better in the understanding of just how
Speaker 2: damn good Kenny was.
Speaker 3: I mean, nowadays, throw the ball forty times game is?
Speaker 3: You know, no big deal. Back in the day, I
Speaker 3: mean it was. If you throw it twenty five times,
Speaker 3: that was a lot. Forty times was unheard of, maybe
Speaker 3: in overtime or double overtime for something. But and and
Speaker 3: Kenny put up big, big numbers, you know, throwing it
Speaker 3: twenty five times a game. I'm telling you, if you
Speaker 3: were playing in today's era, he would be rewriting the
Speaker 3: record book for attempts, completions, yards, touchdowns, you name it.
Speaker 3: Kenny Anderson would have all the records across the board.
Speaker 2: One name that also popped out on this list. To
Speaker 2: me to ask you about when I say L. C. Green,
Speaker 2: what do you think of?
Speaker 3: Tell me about it?
Speaker 2: Sorry to bring up bad memories day, Tell me memories
Speaker 2: of Greenwood.
Speaker 3: I think of the steel curtain defense and automatically, boy,
Speaker 3: but automatically comes right right in my face, slaps me away.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you. And of course I played against Joe Green.
Speaker 3: Joe Green was the guy that I had to try
Speaker 3: to block in the steel curtain defense. But I played
Speaker 3: right next to Vernon Suckie Holland and Sukie and Elsie
Speaker 3: Greenwood had some battles.
Speaker 17: Man.
Speaker 3: Elsie was tall, but he was long, long arms, long legs,
Speaker 3: big feet, big hands. He was very unusual. It looked
Speaker 3: like you could have played in the NBA. He was
Speaker 3: built like that, but a sturdy you know, like a
Speaker 3: very physical NBA type player, very strong guy. You know,
Speaker 3: he worked in the weight room to put on good,
Speaker 3: good muscle mass and did a hell of a job
Speaker 3: of it. But boy, I'll tell you what those steel
Speaker 3: curtain defenses in Elsie Greenwood, man, I'll tell you they
Speaker 3: they could They could play. They played the game, They
Speaker 3: played the game the right way, and they played it hard.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: The other thing that jumps out of else Greenwood. And
Speaker 2: we talk a lot about identifying talent and how good
Speaker 2: Paul Brown was. Yeah, and you look at the Steelers'
Speaker 2: ability to identify Elsie Greenwood was a tenth round pick
Speaker 2: out of Arkansas Pine Bluff who winds up with seventy
Speaker 2: eight career sacks, six time pro bowler, and just that
Speaker 2: eye for talent. In being able to scour and find
Speaker 2: it anywhere around the country.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Chuck Nole, who played for Paul Brown with
Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns, he was a messenger guard, so he
Speaker 3: knew great interior or he knew great offensive or defensive lineman,
Speaker 3: interior or exterier. And I'm sure he gave the thumbs
Speaker 3: up the AOK to draft Elsie Greenwood, particularly in the
Speaker 3: tenth round. Man, that's unbelievable for a guy of that
Speaker 3: talent to last until the tenth round.
Speaker 2: That happened sometimes, Yep, no doubt. And again, those nine
Speaker 2: are all have outstanding resume. Steve Tasker arguably the greatest
Speaker 2: special teamers of all time. Jo Jacobe a heck of
Speaker 2: an offensive line rocker, Craig dual threat thousand yards receiving
Speaker 2: thousand yard rushing in the same season for the Niners.
Speaker 3: That's nuts.
Speaker 2: But man, just our fingers are crossed. And we're thinking
Speaker 2: about Kenny tomorrow as they cut it down to three finalists.
Speaker 2: And here's to Kenny Anderson being one of those final three.
Speaker 3: Best The luck, my friend, You've earned it, you deserve.
Speaker 2: It, absolutely all right. We are out of time. We'll
Speaker 2: be back at you one week from tonight, Thanksgiving in Baltimore.
Speaker 2: For will it be crab cakes for Thanksgiving? Or will
Speaker 2: it be turkey for things? How about turkey for Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2: Dave with a side of crab cakes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe a little crab cake advertiser, and then just
Speaker 3: kill the turkey man. Just worked that bird hard.
Speaker 2: Yes, well, Happy Thanksgiving to you and to you and
Speaker 2: to everybody listening. And we'll catch you one from tonight.
Speaker 2: Sound like a plan.
Speaker 3: Sounds like a big time plan. Sir.
Speaker 2: He's Dave Lapham, I'm Lance Pacalister. This has been Bengals
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