WEBVTT - Bengals Line with Lance McAlister & Dave Lapham -- 11/24/25 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:07.160 This is Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network pay Corps. 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:10.080 Pay Corp is proud to be the official HR software 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:13.960 provider of US Cincinnati Bengals, Kettering ELF Best Care for 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:17.920 the Best Fans, Kettering ELF Official healthcare provider of US 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:22.720 Cincinnati Bengals. This is seven hundred WLW, the home of 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:24.640 the best Bengals coverage. 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:26.720 All right, let's get it going on this Monday night. 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:28.720 If it's Monday, it must be Bengals Line, and that 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:31.840 means three hours of conversation coming your way. We're gonna 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:34.480 hear from the players and coaches will break it all down. 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:37.239 At a twenty six to twenty loss to the Patriots yesterday, 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:40.319 we'll look to the quick turnaround Thursday night Thanksgiving out 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:44.080 against those Baltimore Ravens in the division. Dave, let's begin here. 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:46.800 We knew going in, the expectation was things would be 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:50.640 difficult without Jamar Chase and then early and unexpected benefit, 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:54.120 the defense gets a pick six. It's ten nothing, you're thinking, okay, 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:57.000 and unfortunately it's kind of the yin and yang of 0:00:57.000 --> 0:00:59.840 this season. Something good will happen, something negative will happen. 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:03.760 It's just kind of the path that this season that 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:08.080 we've seen it navigate from week one through. It balances 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:11.280 out a good moment with a very frustrating moment into 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:13.200 the very end on a drive with a chance to 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:16.319 maybe win. And then know, and we sit here tonight 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:18.600 dissecting twenty six to twenty in defeat. 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:21.920 That sums it up very very well. I'm telling you 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:26.040 that that was a kind of a heartbreaker. Really. I mean, 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:29.000 they played the Patriots off their feet, they really did. 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:31.920 It was it was anybody's football game. Like you said, 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:36.920 they'd make a play, you know, turnover touchdown is about 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:39.039 as good as it gets. Make a play like that, 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:41.880 and then they'd give up a same type of thing, 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:44.720 turnover touchdown or give up a big player, whatever the 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:48.360 case may be. It was. It was the highs and lows, 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:50.440 you know, like they talk about in the wild world 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:53.559 of sports, is the thriller victory, the agony of defeat, 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:55.360 and the highs and lows of it that goes along 0:01:56.080 --> 0:02:00.000 during the course that journey. And that's what the Bengals 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:04.520 organized with yesterday. They played well enough to win, they 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:08.640 really did in most intances, but you have to close 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:10.639 it out, you know, you have to somehow figure out 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:13.080 a way to make a play that ends the game, 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:15.639 that finishes it off, and the Bengals are just having 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:18.240 an extremely difficult time right now finishing. 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:19.880 You think of that. I go back to the sequence, 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:23.400 and it's not just offense defense, it's all three managing 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:25.919 a positive or a negative that I think of the 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:29.120 sweet pass from Flacco to Tinsley at four forty to 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:32.200 go and they're in position, and then the special teams 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:34.480 gives up the thirty six yard kick return, and then 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:37.359 on third and eleven, the defense gives up the completion 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:41.880 and it's just like h everywhere you turn, thinking you 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:44.239 want to clap, then you just like shake your hands 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:44.919 at frustration. 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:48.880 I had a few friends that attended the game, and 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:51.360 that's exactly what they said they were doing. You know, 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:54.960 it was like they be on their feet going absolutely crazy, 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:57.720 going berserk, and then you know, what the heck are 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:00.120 we looking at? You know, they'd be wringing their hands. 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:00.919 Uh it. 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:05.080 There were a good number of big plays, and I 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:07.640 at this point in time, I'd like to give some 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:10.560 credit to Joe Flacco for sucking it up the way 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:12.839 he did. I mean, this guy is a pros pro. 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:17.080 There's there's no question about that. And and uh, you 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:19.360 could tell that he was still in pain, he was 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:23.239 still still fighting it. I you know, shoulder a c joint, 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:25.280 you know, you don't you don't know exactly what it is, 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:28.600 how severe it is. But separations. I've had a shoulder separation. 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:31.160 There is no no picnic, man, it's no joke. There's 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:35.400 a legitimate and serious pain there. And what throwing the football, 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:37.800 it's on a throwing shoulder, you know, I mean, throwing 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:42.000 the football under those conditions is really something else. I mean, 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:45.160 he's uh, he's a tough dude. He's he's hard. Nos, 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:47.240 There's there's no doubt about it. I mean, he's he's 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:50.440 showing leadership both physically and mentally, you know, with his 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:54.480 football team. And and I just can't can't pull together 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:55.560 a victory for him though. 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:56.680 That lost four in a row. 0:03:56.800 --> 0:04:01.480 Now, man, after beating the Pittsburgh Steelers thirty three, thirty one, 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:03.520 they've lost four in a row. They lose by a point, 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:06.440 they lose by five points, they lose by twelve to 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:09.000 Pittsburgh gonna rematch, and then they lose by six. I 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:13.440 mean if two of those games, yes, go the other way. 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:16.559 We'd be talking about a horse of a different color. 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:19.480 You know, you'd be talking about a football team with 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:21.160 five wins, not three. 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:24.479 Boy, And just think as you say that, if you'd 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:27.000 found a way to win yesterday to get to four 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:30.440 and seven, you get in theory, Joe back Thursday night 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:32.919 against the Ravens who are in first at six and five, 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:35.600 you've got two games left against them. I mean, if 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:37.680 we had sat here in week one and you'd said 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:40.000 to us, hey, I think by week eleven the division 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:42.279 leader in the AFC North would be six and five, right, 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:44.760 we would have said, what six and five? I think 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:48.120 the six and five leads the division, and you're still 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:52.599 chasing that. It's just so just missed opportunities along the way. 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:55.479 Yeah, that sums it up right there, missed opportunities. And 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:59.960 this was a year that the AFC North was extreme. 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:02.359 We win all. Let's face him. When you have the 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:05.080 first place team after eleven weeks into the season with 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:08.160 the six and five record, I mean that's very just 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:11.520 a little bit above average, Matt says. And and that's 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:14.279 the way the entire division is playing. You know, you 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:17.039 can't sleep on Cleveland, Cleveland, will you know? Jump up 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:20.440 and bite you in the butt. There's no question about that. Uh, 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:24.920 you know, Baltimore and Pittsburgh right there fighting it out, 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:27.640 little Yin and yang going on between those to those 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:31.000 two clubs and the Bengals, man, it was such an opportunity. 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:34.080 But when you look at it, the football God said, no, 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:36.400 it's not gonna be this year for you guys because 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:38.600 of the injuries. Man. I mean they just said, you know, 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:41.000 you're gonna have to deal with injuries. You're gonna have 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:43.040 to suffer through injuries. You're gonna have to fight through 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:46.640 injuries as an organization, as a football team. And uh, 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:48.880 you know, if you can do that and win the division, 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:52.400 God bless you. You know you're you're a better football 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:53.120 team than we thought. 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:57.040 And Dave, nobody will nobody will say this Bengals defense 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.919 obviously is the doomsday defense of the Steel Curtain, right, 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:03.400 but in the last two weeks they've allowed nineteen and 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:06.320 twenty And early in the season, had we sat here 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:08.480 and said, hey, if they can only give up nineteen 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:10.719 or twenty, they'll probably win the game. And that's another 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:13.560 part of the frustration. The defense has actually looked at 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:16.280 not great, but certainly there's progress being made the last 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:16.640 two weeks. 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:19.040 Yeah, I think I think Al Golden would agree with that. Lance. 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:21.640 I think he would probably say, my defense is progressing, 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:24.480 you know, Is it progressing as quickly as he had 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:28.400 hoped or thought? No? Probably not if I think, definitely not. 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:32.080 But you know, they've had their share of injuries as well. 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:35.080 I mean, they're they're playing a couple of rookie linebackers 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:37.240 in their four two five package now, you know, and 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:40.480 they've had problems with the injury to the outside edge 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:43.440 rush guys, and particularly Trey Hendrickson, who's, you know, if 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:45.520 not the best, one of the best best pass rushers 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:47.800 in the National Football League. And you lose a guy 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:50.599 like Trey Hendrickson, a difference maker like that, it's going 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:52.400 to hurt you, and it has hurt the Bengals. 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:55.599 Let's pick it up with coach Zach Taylor after the 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:57.560 game his thoughts on what transpired. 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:01.880 Zach, the defense allowed nineteen points today, it was twenty 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:02.760 last week. 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:05.040 What progress do you see on that side of the ball. 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:10.000 They're finding rhythm, you know, it's they're believing in each other, 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:12.120 what we're doing, finding ways to get stops. Guys are 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:15.080 stepping up and making plays. I love the communication from 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:17.840 that group, and they're starting to get more and more confidence. 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:19.360 You know, That's just that's how the world works. To 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:22.240 have some success, you get more confidence. There's a lot 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:24.120 of things today. I think that'll continue to build towards 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:28.280 that as well, and we'll build on that moving forward. 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:30.840 Jalen Davis has been part of this team for most 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:33.520 of your tenure. He got an opportunity to play extended 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:35.520 snaps today and I thought he played, well, what did 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:36.200 you think of Jayleen? 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:38.200 He's not afraid to go make a play, you know, 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:41.200 and that's what you saw. He went after him, got 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:43.880 a sack, did a great job fitting the B gap 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:45.920 and getting a holding penalty one time that set him back, 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:47.960 and so you just you see things. He's a competitor, 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:51.880 he's got a high football IQ. He's not afraid to 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:53.800 go make a play, and I saw that from JD today. 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:56.400 I think there was a stretch where New England had 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:59.880 ten straight plays in goal to go situation, so inside 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:03.320 ten where the defense did not allow them to get 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:04.040 in the end zone. 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:05.800 What kind of a building block is that? 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:09.120 That's character, I mean, that's that's character and toughness. And 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:12.280 guys just doing their job and know one that other 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:14.920 guys are gonna do theirs. And that's exactly how point 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:17.360 out and proud of those guys that gave us a 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:19.680 lot of momentum, you know. And they stopped him on 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:21.960 the two and we didn't go score, but we were 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:23.520 able to get the ball out to the forty and 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:25.520 trying to flip the field. And so again I was 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:27.600 proud of the effort on those that drive you're talking 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:28.840 about with this defensive guys. 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:30.920 Chase Brown ran for more than one hundred yards today. 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:33.160 I don't think I'm back at top sixty against the 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:35.960 Patriots defense this year. Do you feel like the running 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:38.319 game now? You can safely say it's more or less 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:40.000 turn the corner and it's pretty reliable. 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:40.280 I do. 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:42.360 Again, that speaks to the confidence. I think the whole 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:44.080 group's got confidence in the run game. The guys up 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:46.480 front are really coming off the ball, doing a great 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:48.959 job there, communication backs, understanding where we're going to fit 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:50.760 these balls. The tight ends are doing excellent job, and 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:53.600 the perimeter receivers are bought in as well, and so 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:55.640 we do have a lot of confidence for a run 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:56.960 game right now. And we'll continue lean on. 0:08:57.480 --> 0:08:59.800 You didn't have Jamar Chase, and you lost T Higgins 0:08:59.880 --> 0:09:02.680 late in this game. Mitch Tinsley caught a touchdown pass. 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:05.400 Andre yoc Bosch made some big catches. But how difficult 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:08.160 is it offensively when you're essentially down to a couple 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:08.960 of wide receivers. 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:10.760 That's just that's the way it works. You got to 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:12.559 find a way. No one wants to hear excuses. You 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:15.040 got to put those guys in a position to be successful. 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:17.480 I think their position coaches have been an excellent job 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:20.280 preparing the next man up, problem solving on the move 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:22.920 there as guys were playing a different position for the 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:26.160 first time and run concepts that hadn't practiced. I thought 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:28.160 our execution was still really at a high level and 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:29.240 give us a chance to win the game. 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:33.360 You seriously considered the possibility of Joe Burrow playing this week. 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:35.840 How quickly would you like to have a decision made 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:37.760 for the Thursday night game against Baltimore. 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:39.520 Yeah, there's got to be clarity, you know, in terms 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:42.360 of just we're not physically practicing, we're walking through and stuff. 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:45.160 But you'd like the quarterbacks step clarity. So Sooner wrote 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:46.559 that later appreciate your time. 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:49.520 Yep, thank you, dam Zach Taylor. After the game, we'll 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:51.360 take a time out of come back here from Joe 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:54.040 Flacco on what transpired yesterday, and we've got a whole 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:56.200 lot to sort through between now and nine o'clock. Thanks 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:58.680 for being here. It's Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:05.520 Network and seven hundred WLW and ESPN fifteen thirty. Hey, 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:07.559 we're back on Bengals Line on this Monday night on 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:11.400 the Bengals Radio Network seven hundred WLW and ESPN fifteen thirty. 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:14.319 Reminder at the bottom of the hour, it's UC basketball 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:17.599 coming up Dan Ontario. Set it up on seven hundred WLW. 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:20.959 We carry on and continue on on ESPN fifteen thirty 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:24.160 the rest of the way. Joe Flacco yesterday, the final 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:27.440 numbers for the Bengals quarterback nineteen of thirty seven passing 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:29.760 one to eighty three through the air, a sack, a touchdown, 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:32.520 an interception, a quarterback rating of sixty three point two, 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:35.480 and a dislocated finger. Yeah, let's pick it up with 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:37.960 Joe Flacco after the game. 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:40.680 I think we took we took our shots, and even 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:43.480 within those shots, we had opportunities. We just didn't quite 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:46.199 get it done. I mean, I just felt like they 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:50.040 did a pretty good job all day of just kind 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:52.920 of slowing us down, not allowing us to get into 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:57.320 a rhythm. Even though we ran the ball well, we 0:10:57.320 --> 0:11:00.839 weren't able to kind of capitalize on that and get 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:04.720 in a rhythm and and and convert some third downs, 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:07.280 and you know, we'd get to midfield forty. 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:08.719 Yard line and then we just kind of wouldn't be 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:09.520 able to keep going. 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.760 And it's probably it's there's always fault on us for 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:16.559 not being able to make that happen. But at the 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:19.040 same time, like I said, I think they just do 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:22.480 a good job of of slowing you down and not 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:25.240 allowing you to do that. And I thought our whole 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:29.520 line played well, and they were just able to do 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:32.400 what they do on defense and and and kind of 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:35.080 not allow us to make any big plays and and 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:36.720 then have to go the long way and we weren't 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:37.120 able to do. 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:41.440 It in the passing game that your kind of clear, 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:43.079 your ahead of that and you have. 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:46.160 To moment Yeah, well, I mean stuff happens throughout the 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:49.200 course of the game. I mean it's a shame. 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:50.880 I mean, I feel bad about the pick six but 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:52.400 at the same time, I didn't see the guy and 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:56.960 it's you know, it's one of those plays you want back. 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:59.600 It's the simplest play in the world. Play action, look 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:03.520 for two, check it down. I gave t all the 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:08.360 opportunities and they just had the right coverage on And yeah, 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:09.320 I mean, like. 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:10.560 I said, you don't draw it up like that. 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:12.640 When that happens, it's it's it's one of the simplest 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:13.440 plays in football. 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:15.720 So those are gonna hurt you. 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:17.160 But how do you feel like you played overall? 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:20.640 Just kind of like I talked about, there were some 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:22.760 things that you know, where we started to kind of 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:24.600 feel like we're going to go put a drive together 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:28.079 and then just got slowed down. And I feel like 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:30.679 the same same with me. I was never really quite 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:32.040 able to get in that rhythm. 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:32.680 And and. 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:37.280 You know, and and complete as many balls as I 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:41.719 would as I was as I would like to. It 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:44.360 seemed like they did a good job of targeting and 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:44.800 trying to. 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:45.679 Take him, for sure. 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:47.400 I think they do a good job of playing top 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:49.720 down and just kind of you know, taking away some 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:52.040 of the quick stuff by coming up and pressing, so 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:53.640 you're not you're not able to get the ball out 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:55.760 of your hands to them really quick. And then in 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:58.200 situations they do a good job of playing top down 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:00.720 with the eyes, with their eyes on the quarterback and 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:04.240 having some help. Yeah, there were times they played man, 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:05.760 but I think they were able to drop some other 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:09.360 guys underneath. And I think with te specifically, you're always 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:11.520 kind of shading his way and then trying to just 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:13.439 throw off his rhythm, whether that's at the line of 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:17.240 scrimmage or you know, holding your ground ten yards down 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:19.280 the field with your eyes back on the quarterback and 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:21.960 making it tough to kind of break leverage. 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:24.320 How difficult or different is it running this offense without 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:26.720 Jamar Chase Well. 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:29.920 I think anytime you lose you know, not only one 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:31.360 of the best players in your team, but one of 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:32.040 the best players in. 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:35.000 Football, you know you have you know, guys have to 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:35.560 step up. 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:40.960 But I think I think we still got a bunch 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:43.480 of good players and it's a shame that we didn't 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:45.240 do what we wanted to today, but I definitely think 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:46.200 we're capable of it. 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:47.679 Besides the Jamar distraction. 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:49.240 Besides the Jamar distraction. 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:51.240 This week, there's a lot of talk about Joe Burrow 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:52.079 potentially playing. 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:54.120 Zach said, you found out on Friday that you'd be 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:54.920 definitely the started. 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:57.800 Did that change preparation or anything like that for you 0:13:57.800 --> 0:13:58.120 this week? 0:13:58.160 --> 0:13:59.040 That was a challenge. 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:03.599 The thing with my situation is, listen, I've played a 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:05.880 lot of football and I probably wasn't gonna practice a 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:09.840 lot this week anyway. You know, I might have got 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:12.400 a couple of reps on Thursday that you know, wouldn't 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:15.840 would have wouldn't have ended up mattering that much. So 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:19.040 now that's just part of this business, is you know, 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:21.600 getting ready for a game, and each week presents its 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:22.440 different challenges. 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:26.720 And you know Joe is you know, he's. 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:29.240 Trying to feel out his body and get back on 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:29.640 the field. 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:31.280 So that's part of what you have to deal. 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:32.520 With the last month. 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:35.800 Is it almost cruel knowing a couple of different plays 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:37.800 and this could look like a much different story. 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:40.720 Well yeah, listen, I mean it's all about winning in 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:45.120 this league, and you know, I've talked about it a lot. 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:46.760 In order to get to that point. In order to 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:49.000 win football games, everybody has to focus on their job 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:51.080 and then the wins come and take care of themselves. 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:55.080 And you know, I think a lot of I think 0:14:57.240 --> 0:14:58.960 you know, we've done a good job of doing that. 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:03.680 We just haven't been you know, consistently good enough throughout 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:07.120 sixty minutes. Uh. You know, you can see little things 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:09.040 getting better here and little things getting better there, and 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:13.880 we're just not producing wins with those things. It's frustrating, Yes, 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:16.560 it is, especially now that we're sitting here and you 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:19.040 look back on all those But like I've always said, 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:20.720 when you're in the moment, you just got to continue 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:23.240 to do your job little by little and look up 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:24.280 at the end of the day and see what the 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:26.240 results are. And the results haven't been what we want 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:29.400 them to be. But I do think we've done a 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:30.840 lot of good things in that meantime. 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:36.880 Do you think that you'd be able to Thursday? 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:37.640 I assume so. 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:39.280 I mean, you never know with fingers, but I mean 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:40.560 the fact that I was able to get out there 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:42.160 and do it right now and stuff like. 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:43.920 That, like yeah, I mean I literally like get my 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:45.240 shoulder actually feels really good. 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:47.280 I think my shoulder has done nothing but gotten better 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:48.480 the last three weeks, and. 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:54.360 Everything else, you know, feels great. So the last. 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:59.360 Drive, you guys were lining up where you know, the 0:15:59.440 --> 0:15:59.960 leader more. 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:05.800 Double always that last ride for your Yeah, listen, I 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:07.960 mean I have all the confidence in the world and 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:09.640 everybody that we throw out there, and I think you 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:11.640 could see that. I think, you know, a different guy 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:13.880 made a play on each one, you know, as we 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:17.560 started moving down down the field, and you know, Mitch 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:19.920 gets in, you know, the second to last drive and 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:22.160 you know nothing he wasn't in, but you know, gets 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:27.480 a chance on a go ball and wins. And you know, 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:31.640 it's a shame because there are always positives in games 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:33.680 like these, but when you don't win them, you know, 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:35.000 it's hard to feel like it matters. 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:40.680 So, uh, you know, that's that's why winning is such 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:41.160 a big deal. 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:44.600 It It can highlight you know, guys stepping up and 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:47.400 doing good things in those roles, and since we weren't 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:49.880 able to do it, you know, it kind of goes unseen. 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:53.360 Joe Flacco after the game. Much more on Joe and 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:55.760 what he's meant in his time here with the Bengals 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:57.760 a little bit later on in the show as well. 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:00.600 Reminder at the bottom of the hour We're going to 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:04.399 break Away on ESPN fifteen thirty seven hundred WLW You 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:08.040 continues on with UC basketball tonight against New Jersey Institute 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:10.439 of Technology, Dan and Terry will set that up. We 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:13.640 continue till nine on ESPN fifteen thirty. Was so much 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:16.440 more to break down and discuss from yesterday's loss to 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:19.320 the Patriots and the look ahead to Thursday night, Thanksgiving 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:22.159 Night and those Baltimore Ravens as we continue with Bengals 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:28.440 Line on the Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred WLW. Hey, 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:31.359 we continue rolling right along on this Monday night talking Bengals, 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:33.679 all things Bengals over the next three hours of Bengals 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:37.000 Line of the Bengals Radio Network and ESPN fifteen thirty, 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:41.359 Lance McAllister Dave Lapham Let's talk defense Geno Stone yesterday 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:44.920 and Dave, as you referenced it, it's the much maligned 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:48.119 at times Geno Stone had a big day yesterday. For 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:51.080 all the criticism he has earned at times, he deserves 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:53.919 the props of yesterday of a thirteen tackle performance, a 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:57.840 pick six, solid tackling day was probably, I know it 0:17:57.880 --> 0:17:59.280 might be his best day as a Bengal. 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:03.160 Yeah, the thirteen tackles and a thirty two yard pick six. 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:06.560 U that's that dog will hunt right there. Uh. He 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:09.400 made a great play on the on the pick six. 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:11.920 I mean he kind of baited him to throw that football, 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:15.040 hung back there in a deep quadrant of the cover 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:17.560 to his own defense, and then just turned it turned 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:20.640 it on when he came downhill and picked that football off, 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:22.840 and uh, nobody laid a finger on him. I mean, 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:25.240 he he was in the end zone celebrating in the 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:26.720 It was a it was a big moment in the 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:29.640 football game for sure, And he did have a bunch 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:33.080 of tackles, but he still missed some, you know. I 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:35.359 mean it's like it's almost like when you're when you're 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:39.120 having trouble tackling, you have to make about twenty because 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:41.120 they're coming right at you. It seems like every player 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:44.600 is like, I got to make another tackle? What's going 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:47.159 on here? When is anybody else gonna get involved in 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:51.560 this tackling action? But yeah, he's I think I think 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:57.119 he's again. He's another guy. Al Golden. I was talking 0:18:57.119 --> 0:18:59.560 to him after the football game. He said, our guys 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:03.560 are trying. Every single guy is still giving me everything 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:06.080 he's got, and that's all I can ask for. You know, 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:08.800 they want to win games, they want to play for 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:11.439 their teammates, they want, you know, eleven people to be 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:15.240 playing like one they you know, they do. They want 0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:16.960 to they want to play well, They want to do 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:18.840 well for the city of Cincinnati, they want to do 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:23.200 well for the fan base. Just ain't happening as as 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:25.479 you mentioned during the broadcast, and I want to go 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:28.000 through they come up with the two goal line stands. 0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:30.560 One results at no points, one results in a nineteen 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:31.199 yard field goal. 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:32.600 And I think it was the second one. You said 0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:35.560 you could hear playing his day the Bengals defensive booth 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:37.720 next to you guys making a whole lot of noise 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:40.200 in celebration of getting a huge stop at that time. 0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:42.840 Yeah, that was big, big stop. And they were they 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:45.120 were on their feet, they were they were high five 0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:48.120 and high ten and they were. They were all all 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:50.480 jacked up and thought there could be a big turning 0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:51.879 point in the game, which it could have been, but 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:54.120 was not meant to be unfortunately. 0:19:54.600 --> 0:19:56.840 Let's let's pick it up after the game and hear 0:19:56.880 --> 0:19:59.080 from the man who had those thirteen tackles and the 0:19:59.119 --> 0:20:00.960 pick six. Here is Geno Stone. 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:02.840 Gonna start off with, uh, your pick six? 0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:04.600 Who kind to take me back to kind of. 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:05.600 What you saw on that play. 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:07.919 We're just kind of in a you know, m a 0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:10.800 man defense and kind of just went empty. And I 0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:13.560 was reading the quarterback early seeing the free runner kind 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:15.159 of just went over top, and you know, he th 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:16.719 I kind of overthrew it and then I just took 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:17.200 it from there. 0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:18.399 What didn't mean for you. 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:19.560 To make a fool like that? 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:20.880 And especially getting expands? 0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:21.879 Uh? 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:23.960 Nah, I feel like I needed it, you know, just 0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:25.760 haf the past few weeks I had I feel like I, 0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:27.520 you know, I wasn't playing up to what I should 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:28.680 be playing at. And I feel like, you know, today 0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:31.560 I showed what I'm capable of and who I really am. 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:34.080 So I feel like I needed that. You say, take 0:20:34.119 --> 0:20:35.800 that play out of the equation. You still feel like 0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:38.040 it was a pretty solid game for you. Yeah, I 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:39.720 mean I looked up. I think I got thirteen tackles. 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:41.000 I think that's the most ever had in my career. 0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:43.640 So I mean I feel like I checked that box 0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:45.600 off and checked that other box off. So the other 0:20:45.640 --> 0:20:46.439 thing we did, we we did. 0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:47.480 We sent win, you know. 0:20:47.560 --> 0:20:49.199 Individual I mean, I feel good, but end of the day, 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:50.879 I wanna win, and the the win is. 0:20:50.880 --> 0:20:52.520 Like you said, the most important thing, but the the 0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:54.920 gold line stands. I mean, how much couldn't that carry 0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:56.200 forward for this defense. 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:56.640 As a as a whole. 0:20:56.880 --> 0:20:57.920 No, I mean I just feel like, you know, work, 0:20:57.920 --> 0:20:59.359 we're showing who our row identity is. I mean it 0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:01.520 it took a while. I took a lot, so I 0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:04.000 play we're going guys in the race, boss, and we're 0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:05.439 all just you know, playing Hart right though. I mean, 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:08.000 I feel like you guys are flying around and you 0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:10.240 know we're owning uh up to all the things that 0:21:10.280 --> 0:21:12.480 we were mistakes that we had an early in season, 0:21:12.480 --> 0:21:13.639 and we're all just put together right now. 0:21:14.359 --> 0:21:16.160 I think that's happened to me that one that I'm now. 0:21:16.160 --> 0:21:19.600 Going, Uh, get your body ready. I know I'm hurting 0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:20.760 a little bit. You just got you get it ready. 0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:22.879 You know you got a short way. So I know 0:21:22.960 --> 0:21:24.919 the coach you're gonna get a good game plan for us, 0:21:24.920 --> 0:21:26.440 and to get get ready for the Ravers. You know 0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:27.840 the type of team they are is a ABC North, 0:21:27.920 --> 0:21:29.320 So tryta get ready for him. 0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:31.560 We got Joe Burrow coming back. The defense takes a 0:21:31.560 --> 0:21:33.119 step forward. Do you feel like you guys have a 0:21:33.280 --> 0:21:35.080 run in you even though it's been. 0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:36.959 Eight out of nine months. No, definitely, I mean we're 0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:38.320 right there. I mean, I play every game. We have 0:21:38.400 --> 0:21:40.119 a right there, so something that you can't count us out, 0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:42.960 especially gout with Joe Burro, like Joe Burrow. So I 0:21:43.000 --> 0:21:44.239 feel like, you know, the run we had last year, 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:45.000 you just gotta start now. 0:21:45.160 --> 0:21:46.840 I was gonna say last year, does that give you 0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:48.159 guys something to lean on and look? 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:50.600 Yeah, definitely, I mean definitely, And it's especially stressed we 0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:53.680 got coming up. It's all considered team, so it's gonna 0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:55.159 show what we're made up. So we definitely gotta get 0:21:55.160 --> 0:21:55.639 these games right now. 0:21:56.920 --> 0:21:57.800 They have talked about it. 0:21:58.080 --> 0:22:00.720 Can you walk me through the big early in the 0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:03.400 game to create momentum and make a big play. 0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:05.000 Yeah, nothing, I was just saying, it really just a 0:22:05.080 --> 0:22:07.520 man defense kind of just playing the post and uh, 0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:09.240 you know, right the quarterback's eyes and he kind of 0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:10.879 you know, overthrow the you know, tight end by a 0:22:10.920 --> 0:22:12.119 little bit, and uh, you know it's a man to 0:22:12.119 --> 0:22:12.440 pay for it. 0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:14.520 So yeah, when you get the ball in your head, 0:22:14.600 --> 0:22:17.320 I know you're thinking, but did it just open up 0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:18.159 for you in front of you? 0:22:18.480 --> 0:22:18.680 Yeah? 0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:20.280 Kind of, I kind of you know, I'll try to 0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:22.280 skin you up all of our linemen because you know, 0:22:22.359 --> 0:22:24.240 usually you had to go to the sideline and someone 0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:26.160 usually takes an angle gets you out, so I really 0:22:26.200 --> 0:22:27.800 try to just keep up the middle first and then 0:22:27.840 --> 0:22:29.320 bounce it out and then all the guys did a 0:22:29.359 --> 0:22:30.200 great job blocking from me. 0:22:30.320 --> 0:22:32.920 So that's kind of all was happened. Yeah, you guys 0:22:32.960 --> 0:22:34.359 are in the winds business. 0:22:34.480 --> 0:22:38.280 But is today and encouraging for the defense despite the loss? 0:22:38.359 --> 0:22:38.919 Yeah, definitely. 0:22:38.960 --> 0:22:40.040 I mean I feel like we had a bunch of 0:22:40.119 --> 0:22:42.840 goal line stances and I mean what probably all gave 0:22:42.880 --> 0:22:45.000 him one touchdown and then the touchdown was kind of 0:22:45.000 --> 0:22:47.320 schemed up on us. We know what kind of where 0:22:47.320 --> 0:22:47.680 it came from. 0:22:47.760 --> 0:22:49.320 So h hatch off to them. 0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:50.360 But you know, I feel like we did a great 0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:52.359 job today the way we tackled and the way we 0:22:52.480 --> 0:22:53.440 flew around and played. 0:22:53.680 --> 0:22:54.959 You felt like they had the ball on the one 0:22:55.040 --> 0:22:58.320 yard line seven eight different times and couldn't score on 0:22:58.440 --> 0:23:00.639 you guys. What is it about this d defense today 0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:02.200 that it really clicked and you guys. 0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:02.720 Were hard to score on? 0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:04.080 Like I said, I mean, like I said earlier, we 0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:05.280 kind of just owned up to all the mistakes we 0:23:05.320 --> 0:23:07.560 had in the past, and uh, you know, owning everything 0:23:07.600 --> 0:23:09.560 that happen and then taking them forward and then taking 0:23:09.600 --> 0:23:11.280 the next step. I feel like a lot of guys 0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:12.639 that we said, like all the leaders we have in 0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:14.639 the group are leading all the younger guys and take 0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:17.520 taking everyone that's uh, you know that he's messing up 0:23:17.520 --> 0:23:19.640 with myself. We're all taking our next step and getting 0:23:19.680 --> 0:23:20.679 better at each week and each day. 0:23:21.000 --> 0:23:23.000 A lot of guys who are getting the first opportunity, 0:23:23.080 --> 0:23:26.639 who are showing up and making plays for this defense. 0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:28.959 How important is it that anybody who's called up one 0:23:29.000 --> 0:23:29.800 has to come in there and be. 0:23:29.800 --> 0:23:30.280 A difference man. 0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:32.200 No, it's definitely great. I mean it's the next man 0:23:32.240 --> 0:23:33.800 inntality all the time. This is how it's how the 0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:36.200 league works. You know, guys get hurt a lot of 0:23:36.320 --> 0:23:38.640 in this league. So uh, whenever your opportunity is called, 0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:40.280 you gotta get ready to go play. And uh, a 0:23:40.320 --> 0:23:42.639 bunch of guys that are thinking today, especially Jad, so 0:23:42.760 --> 0:23:44.879 he's gotta I say right now that just you know, 0:23:44.960 --> 0:23:47.600 cause came in and we had tip a beat. So 0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:49.480 I'm hats off to him and hats off to all 0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:51.119 the guys who played today and play We played hard. 0:23:51.240 --> 0:23:53.200 Rom If there's anybody in this room who knows what 0:23:53.280 --> 0:23:55.440 the challenge is Thursday night going to Baltimore winning, it's 0:23:55.560 --> 0:23:57.879 you from your time there. Do you feel like this 0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:00.560 team is close though, to kind of get that win 0:24:00.680 --> 0:24:03.320 and just kind of calumbing the water, so to speak? 0:24:03.359 --> 0:24:03.720 With the win? 0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:06.479 Yeah, definitely. I mean, I mean I feel I mean, 0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:07.880 we were right there every game. 0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:08.639 We've been right there. 0:24:08.640 --> 0:24:10.800 It's not like we haven't been there yet. So I mean, 0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:12.639 I feel like all it takes is, you know that 0:24:12.880 --> 0:24:14.600 the last go plays and we's got to finish. 0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:14.960 That's all. 0:24:15.040 --> 0:24:17.200 That's all it takes right now. And I feel like 0:24:17.200 --> 0:24:18.560 we got the guys in a group, especially, we got 0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:21.200 guys home back, so uh, I'm ready for I'm ready 0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:21.600 for those. 0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:25.480 That Geno stone after the game. The one thing that 0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:27.879 jumps out and back to our original theme of the 0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:30.200 yin and yang of all this is as many times 0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:33.600 as they made plays defensively, how many times did the 0:24:33.720 --> 0:24:36.680 Patriots target the middle of the field. The tight ends, 0:24:37.160 --> 0:24:41.320 who combined had ten catches, one hundred and fifty four 0:24:41.440 --> 0:24:44.560 yards and a touchdown. Drake Maye threw for two ninety four, 0:24:44.680 --> 0:24:47.159 so one fifty four. Over half the yards went to 0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:50.360 the tight ends. Dave and Dan mentioned during the broadcast 0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:54.000 just in an incredulous voice, like, why do why do 0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:56.920 the struggles continue of stopping the tight ends over the 0:24:56.960 --> 0:24:59.840 middle of the field. Yeah, the sixty four thousand dollars question, 0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:01.879 but no answer, no question about it. 0:25:02.240 --> 0:25:05.280 It's a difficult thing to answer. And it's like, all right, well, 0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:08.880 are the tight ends just winning? Are they beating linebackers 0:25:08.960 --> 0:25:11.359 in safeties? You know, are they running better real crisp 0:25:11.440 --> 0:25:14.320 routes getting separation? To me, it doesn't look like that. 0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:17.400 It looks like there are blown assignments. I mean, it's 0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:19.720 got to be driving Al Golden crazy. He has to 0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:22.359 be tearing his hair out by the roots, because you know, 0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:24.240 that's not what he's all about. I mean, when he 0:25:24.359 --> 0:25:26.639 was at Notre Dame, they were buttoned up. They did 0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:29.720 not blow assignments. And they might have gotten beaten physically 0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:32.399 because they played against a better opponent or whatever the 0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:35.680 case may be there individually or collectively as a football team, 0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:38.720 but it wasn't giving things away because of mental errors. 0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:41.680 And man Paul Brown used to hate that. Oh jeez. 0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:44.879 I mean, if you get your nose into playbooks on 0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:48.480 understand what we're trying to do here. If you can't 0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:51.399 handle it mentally, we can't play you. We can't put 0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:53.840 you on the football field, or if you do understand 0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:55.760 it mentally and you're trying to make plays and beat 0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:58.520 play hero ball. I don't like that either. I don't 0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:02.159 like hero ball. I like team football. I want us 0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:05.120 to play team defense, and that's what the coaches want, 0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:06.440 and that's what we want as well. 0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:08.760 David, I would think, at least on a day, and 0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:12.119 I know it's a loss is a loss, and you 0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:15.720 still look though for signs and stuff to stack and 0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:18.639 build on it. And we mentioned the progress made by 0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:21.080 the defense, and I thought Chris Jenkins, I wrote his 0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:23.200 name down early in a game for the first time 0:26:23.280 --> 0:26:25.760 in a while. And Jaylen Davis. We'll hear from Jalen 0:26:25.800 --> 0:26:28.399 coming up in this hour on his interception. But there 0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:31.440 are guys who have good moments, which I think gotta 0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:33.800 has got to mean something for them individually and something 0:26:33.880 --> 0:26:36.119 for the unit to say, all right, we've been getting 0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:38.399 our tail kicked, and we've been we've been beating up 0:26:38.440 --> 0:26:41.480 all season long, but maybe some things are starting to 0:26:41.520 --> 0:26:43.359 develop here and there's more reason to believe in what 0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:44.160 we're doing right. 0:26:44.280 --> 0:26:47.280 I mean, Jalen Davis is a great example. Al Golden 0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:49.800 has to be proud of him, and he just keeps 0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:53.680 getting better and better, and he deserves more and more 0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:56.639 playing time, more and more opportunity to make plays. He 0:26:56.760 --> 0:27:00.280 had the interception. I think he was probably as good 0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:02.520 a tackler as it was on the football field. I mean, 0:27:02.600 --> 0:27:04.680 when he hit people, they were on the ground, he 0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:08.360 brought him down. There wasn't you know, mistackle yards after 0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:12.439 initial contact. He did a very good job of form tackling, 0:27:12.480 --> 0:27:15.080 getting the head across the bow and wrapping those arms up. 0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:18.000 That's the key. I think a high percentage of the 0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:22.480 misstackles are due to not wrapping up and taking the 0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:26.159 opponent's ball. Carry would be it running back, wide, receiver, 0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:27.560 tight end, whatever to the ground. 0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:30.040 Still ahead, and we'll flip the script back to the 0:27:30.080 --> 0:27:33.359 offensive side of things. Mitch Tinsley checks in as we 0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:35.800 roll on with Bengals Line and the Bengals Radio Network 0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:47.080 at ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Hey, we were 0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:49.400 rolling right along, and it's monding out of Bengals Line 0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:53.160 of the Bengals Radio Network and ESPN fifteen thirty at. 0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:56.800 Lance's time for the injury report, which unfortunately, fortunately is 0:27:56.880 --> 0:28:01.359 pretty extensive. Nothing real serious, you know, surgery, you know, 0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:03.879 end of season and all that sort of thing. But 0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:06.480 they're beaten up and they're nicked up for sure. And 0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:09.800 that's presented by Kettering Healthy, official healthcare provider of the 0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:13.080 Cincinnati Bengals, providing the best care for the best fans. 0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:15.840 And uh it is. I mean, you know, you've got 0:28:15.920 --> 0:28:20.800 guys out because of injury, and again nothing nothing severe, 0:28:20.880 --> 0:28:23.400 but enough to keep them out of the football game. 0:28:23.880 --> 0:28:26.200 And and then guys get hurt during the course of 0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:28.280 the football game. You know, you get your and it 0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:31.880 always seems like one position group starts to get ravaged, 0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:35.840 you know, and and uh Jamar Chase uh you know 0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:38.480 is missing for this football game and then lo and 0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:41.760 behold uh down goes T Higgins. 0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:42.680 That was scary. 0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:43.320 It was that. 0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:46.000 That's one of those ones you had cringed and kind 0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:48.400 of jumped when you saw the head just snap off 0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:48.840 the turf. 0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:51.640 Yeah that uh man, When you when when it bounces 0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:53.920 like that, when it gets that kind of a kind 0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:57.640 of a bounce, uh you know that that noticeable a bounce, 0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:00.520 You're thinking there could be some damage there and there 0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:04.400 there was hopefully nothing too severe. He won't miss too 0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:07.480 much time. But man, you just I mean, I know 0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:10.840 the fan base is just like, when are we gonna 0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:13.600 have all three of the big three together at the 0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:17.480 same time performing for the Cincinnati Bengals. They're still still 0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:19.800 waiting for that. And Uh, unfortunate enough to wait a 0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:20.560 little longer. 0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:23.440 With the t situation. In a normal week, it's probably 0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:25.600 gonna be it would have been challenging to get through 0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:29.720 concussion protocol on a short week. Probably lean to not 0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:31.560 gonna be able to turn it around that quickly to 0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:32.160 play Thursday. 0:29:32.320 --> 0:29:34.880 Agreed, absolutely, And uh, and also I think that was 0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:38.360 probably a factor in the Joe Burrow decision. All right, well, 0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:41.520 let's just you know, you got you got two games 0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:43.600 in a very short time frame here a quick turnaround. 0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:46.120 You're not gonna have a whole lot of time to 0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:51.080 recover after the after the football game against the Pittsburgh Steelers. 0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:52.960 So what you know are the New England Patriots, So 0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:54.480 what are we gonna what are we gonna do? Well, 0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:57.000 let's just wait and let's let them go against the 0:29:57.320 --> 0:30:01.000 Baltimore Ravens. Let's let them match up against lamarg They've 0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:04.760 had some incredible matchups in the past. And and Joe 0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:07.040 Burrow has done a great job of going into Baltimore 0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:10.320 and giving the Ravens all he can handle and beating him. 0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:12.440 They have a lot of respect for him, and rightfully so. 0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:17.360 Mitch Tinsley yesterday two catches twenty nine yards, a seventeen 0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:20.280 yarder and a touchdown. A really sweet throw from Joe Flacco. 0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:23.600 A really nice catch from Mitchell Tinsley. Here's Mitch after 0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:25.680 the game on the afternoon, we're in the locker room. 0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:29.480 Mitch Tinsley had a touchdown catch today, an opportunity there 0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:32.480 late in the game to potentially pull it out. Unfortunately, 0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:36.040 you guys couldn't quite score that game winning touchdown. But 0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:39.120 what did you think of the Offensi's performance late in 0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:42.160 the game and at least making it a possible come 0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:42.840 from behind wind. 0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:46.560 We did a good job fighting, trying to take advantage 0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:49.080 of opportunities when we were out there. You know, some 0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:51.280 guys went down, and you know some guys stuffed up, 0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:54.080 and I think, you know, we just try to fight today. 0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:57.280 In your touchdown pass was the first that Christian Gonzalez 0:30:57.360 --> 0:30:59.920 is allowed all year. It looked like a perfect throw 0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:04.160 from Joe Flacco. Described the route, described the play, Oh it. 0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:07.280 Was a man coverage and you know, cause that was 0:31:07.320 --> 0:31:09.280 was a great player. But you know I seen him, 0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:12.000 I gave him a great release, stacked him, and you 0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:12.960 know I just looked the ball. 0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:14.880 And Joe put it right right there where I needed to, 0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:16.320 and you know, I just made a play. 0:31:16.840 --> 0:31:19.280 You guys didn't have Jamar for the entire game. It 0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:20.880 didn't have t late. 0:31:21.440 --> 0:31:23.600 How did that affect you and Andre and some of 0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:27.440 the other guys trying to you know, take up for 0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:29.400 that absence and make plays down the stretch. 0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:31.920 I mean, I feel like all of us just tried 0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:33.880 to do a good job of, you know, approaching every 0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:36.640 single day in practice and you know, just every just 0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:39.480 every day mentality like where the starters. So I I think, 0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:41.600 you know, we had to go in knowing that, with 0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:44.400 the confidence, knowing that we can make plays, uh you 0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:46.280 know when our numbers called, and just being ready for 0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:46.960 the opportunity. 0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:50.120 I mentioned the touchdown catch. How about the the catch 0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:52.320 on fourth down late in the game. I'm not sure 0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:54.800 how you caught that. It looked like went right through 0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:57.200 the defensive back's hands and you someholp up the found 0:31:57.200 --> 0:31:58.240 the ball and state in violence. 0:31:58.760 --> 0:32:01.480 Yeah, it was just h is a focus then, honestly, 0:32:01.600 --> 0:32:03.800 because I wasn't sure if he was gonna get high 0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:05.840 enough for anything to you know, to get hand on it, 0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:07.440 and they want to see him go through his hands 0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:09.440 time or reaction to everything, because where I thought the 0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:11.040 ball was gonna go and where it actually ended up. 0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:12.520 You know, I just had to react to it. 0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:15.800 But yeah, it was And I just try to make. 0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:18.440 A point, Mitchell, are you encouraged by what the defense 0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:20.920 is doing. It's two weeks now where the defense at 0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:23.400 least has given up twenty or fewer points to the 0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:24.360 other team's offense. 0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:26.360 I have full confidence in our defense. 0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:26.520 You know. 0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:29.240 I feel like they grind, they go hard every single day. 0:32:29.440 --> 0:32:30.440 You know, they have a great. 0:32:30.320 --> 0:32:33.480 Mentality the way they approach practice every single week, and 0:32:33.680 --> 0:32:35.160 you know, I think it's showing out there this week 0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:38.320 so last week. So I mean, I know they're gonna 0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:40.000 continue to do with what they've been doing. 0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:41.920 And you know, just go go on to the next 0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:45.320 congratulating your second TV. Thank you. That's Mitchy. 0:32:45.360 --> 0:32:48.160 Mitch Tinsley After the game and Dave, we talk about 0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:51.880 guys taking advantage of opportunities. Bengal saw something in him 0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:54.640 in camp. I think everybody was kind of buzzing, like, hey, 0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:55.920 this is Tinsley. 0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:56.920 He's got something going on. 0:32:57.040 --> 0:32:59.880 Here, and he's taken advantage of the opportunities when presented this. 0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:03.000 He really has, I mean five catches, two of them 0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:06.440 are touchdowns. That's pretty damn good production right there. He's 0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:09.920 averaging fifteen point six per catch along of twenty seven. 0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:13.120 So when he's been given the opportunity, he's answered the bell. 0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:17.000 There's no doubt. And I think you know, Joe Flacco 0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:20.160 and Joe Burrow both have confidence in this kid. It's 0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:21.920 like when he's on the football viil, it's not like 0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:24.600 should I or shouldn't I. No, they're cutting it loose. 0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:27.160 They're they're getting the ball to to mits Tinseley, and 0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:30.560 he's showing them that they should. He's a great story, 0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:33.840 there's no question, and the all the teammates love him. 0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:37.320 He works hard, man, he's, you know, on the football field, 0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:38.720 one of the first ones out in the field, one 0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:40.840 of the last ones to leave kind of guy. He's 0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:44.640 given everything he's got. He knows that how fortunate he 0:33:44.800 --> 0:33:49.120 is that not everybody playing football and walking the earth 0:33:49.240 --> 0:33:51.440 is going to get a chance to play professional football 0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:54.760 and he's getting one, so he wants to capitalize big time. 0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:57.800 And I guess you could say the opposite of not 0:33:57.960 --> 0:34:00.640 taking the opposite of taking advantage of opportun unities would 0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:03.760 be somebody like Unfortunately, Jermaine Burton, who on a day 0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:07.160 there's no Jamar Chase, your third round pick, the eightieth 0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:10.040 pickoverall a couple of years ago, is inactive, which I 0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:12.960 think speaks volumes about where Jermaine Burton fits into the 0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:13.839 grand scheme of things. 0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:16.680 Absolutely, you know, they just don't feel like he's ready yet. 0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:20.240 You know that that mentally he's he's there. Yet mentally 0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:23.279 he understands everything that needs needs to understand all the 0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:26.880 nuances of the offense, particularly at the wide receiver position. 0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:29.680 And you know, I mean, the relationship between quarterback and 0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:32.239 receiver has to be you know strong. I mean, it 0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:36.160 has to be like an unbreakable bond. We I'm expecting 0:34:36.200 --> 0:34:38.759 you to be there when I throw the football. You 0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:41.480 got to be there. And if you're not there and 0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:45.640 I suffer an interception or worse, an interception pick six, 0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:48.320 you know we got problems. We got issues, and you 0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:50.799 know he's just, uh, he's got work to do, that's 0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:51.200 for sure. 0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:53.960 We will take a time out and head down the 0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:56.439 stretch final segment of our first hour of the first 0:34:56.520 --> 0:34:59.200 of three big hours. We'll hear from Evan McPherson coming 0:34:59.280 --> 0:35:03.319 up in our hour. Also, Orlando Brown will talk Joe 0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:06.560 Burrow and more as we make our way through this 0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:09.640 Monday night of all things Bengals. Conversation on Bengals Line, 0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:17.480 the Bengals Radio Network at ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Hey, 0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:20.040 we're back on Bengals Line and the Bengals Radio Network 0:35:20.080 --> 0:35:23.040 at ESPN fifteen thirty. Lance but candlister Dave Lapham hanging 0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:26.120 out on a Monday night. Yes, Sir Lanson, everybody should 0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:28.600 shock the Bengals Pro Shop. Find the best selection of 0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:31.719 Bengals merchandise anywhere is at the Pro Shop, seven days 0:35:31.719 --> 0:35:34.040 a week, located on the north side of Pey Court Stadium, 0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:37.000 or shop online at Bengals dot Com. Dave final thought 0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:39.080 on the hour. We'll hear from Jalen Davis later on 0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:42.480 in the show about his day. But he was part 0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:44.920 of a blitz and I don't have the numbers in 0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:47.200 front of me, but it seems like they blitzed more 0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:50.800 yesterday and it created some things and maybe leads to 0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:53.799 maybe trying more. There's always you know that you're you'll 0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:55.800 get burned every once in a while. But seemed to 0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:57.080 create some problems yesterday. 0:35:57.160 --> 0:36:00.600 Yeah, I agree. I think Al Golden has started to 0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:04.800 increase that. I think he feels that confident that the 0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:06.560 blitz is going to get home. We're going to at 0:36:06.640 --> 0:36:09.719 least cause problems, yes, And the worst thing that can 0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:11.640 happen is when you blitz and it gets taken up 0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:14.839 and everybody gets stoned and there's no pressure and now 0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:17.160 you're a man short in the back end and it's like, 0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:20.600 oh no, you gritting your teeth, you close your eyes, 0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:23.120 and you hope that quarterback doesn't find the right place 0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:25.960 to throw the football. But I agree, I think Al 0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:28.920 Golden by nature is an aggressive guy, you know, in 0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:32.480 terms of his mindset, how he wants to play football defensively, 0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:34.560 he wants to get after you. He doesn't want to 0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:35.799 allow you to take it to him. 0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:40.359 Let's put this hour in the books and let's look 0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:43.080 forward to our second hour. Evan McPherson and Orlando Brian. 0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:46.080 We'll talk Joe Flacco's time here, We'll talk Joe Burrows, 0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:50.320 perhaps return on Thursday night, and here from Jalen Davis. 0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:52.640 All of that and our second of three tonight. 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We're sorting through yesterday at twenty six 0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:44.240 twenty loss to the Patriots, looking ahead of those Baltimore 0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:47.840 Ravens on Thursday night and Thanksgiving Football. 0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:50.239 Hey Bengals fans on Fridays, make sure to listen to 0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:53.400 myself and Dan Horde from Bengals pep Rally presented by 0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:56.080 Just Bear Chicken on the air from three to six 0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:58.320 pm on ESPN fifteen thirty. 0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:03.080 Evan McPherson yesterday sixty three yarder for a franchise record, 0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:06.680 first Bengal to hit beyond sixty. The previous record was 0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:09.480 hit sixty or beyond. The previous record was fifty nine. 0:38:09.560 --> 0:38:11.920 Evan said that in the twenty twenty two opener, and 0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:14.839 Kate York forgot about him, almost tied it well, kicking 0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:17.719 in his place during the injury and Dave there are 0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:20.080 you know, and I'm gonna make the baseball analogy. Tell 0:38:20.120 --> 0:38:23.840 me if this makes sense. There's that saying with guys 0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:27.239 like Aaron Judge or Albert Poohols in batting practice. The 0:38:27.320 --> 0:38:30.400 ball just sounds differently coming off of bat right. I 0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:32.560 think the same could be said coming off the foot 0:38:32.719 --> 0:38:36.200 of Evan McPherson. It is it's really something to behold. 0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:39.600 It is lace. I mean, you're right on. It's there's 0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:42.719 a big, a big analogy there. It's a good one 0:38:42.760 --> 0:38:45.520 that you're making. When he hits that thing in warm 0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:49.040 ups even it's like bump man. It's a big old 0:38:49.120 --> 0:38:54.680 thud and he it does. It catches you if you're 0:38:54.760 --> 0:38:56.959 daydreaming at all, it'll wake you up. There's no question 0:38:57.040 --> 0:39:00.320 about that. And the thing about him is his legs strength, 0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:03.400 it's it's twofold. He can kick for distance. I mean, 0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:06.000 he can drill the heck out of the football. And 0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:09.120 he hits the ball when I watch him, watch him 0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:13.040 a little bit during practices and on the sideline even 0:39:13.719 --> 0:39:17.000 you know, before game pregame. He hits more toward the 0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:19.680 middle of the football than down in that lower portion 0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:22.520 of the football. And of course the ball is you know, oblong, 0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:26.080 it's a sphere shaped type thing, and he hits it 0:39:26.200 --> 0:39:28.680 where there's a little bit more leather and a little 0:39:28.680 --> 0:39:31.160 bit more air. You know, he puts a good pounding 0:39:31.239 --> 0:39:35.279 on that football. The other thing where he hits it. 0:39:35.719 --> 0:39:39.919 It amazes me how quickly he gets elevation, how high 0:39:40.000 --> 0:39:42.279 he gets the football. You know, usually if you hit 0:39:42.360 --> 0:39:44.480 the thing, the lower you hit it toward the tip 0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:47.040 the point of the football, the more elevation you're going 0:39:47.120 --> 0:39:49.640 to get. This guy breaks that rule. Man, He hits 0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:52.000 it more toward the middle of the football and still 0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:55.000 gets airborne about as quickly as anybody I've ever seen. 0:39:55.480 --> 0:39:59.440 Let's hear from Muddy Mack. Here's Evan after the game yesterday. 0:39:59.640 --> 0:40:02.640 Evan Pearson made team history today with a sixty three 0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:06.240 yard field goal. It was the exact set of circumstances 0:40:06.600 --> 0:40:09.360 that you've talked about before forgetting an opportunity like that. 0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:12.600 And I don't play of the half sixty plus let 0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:13.120 a rip. 0:40:13.000 --> 0:40:13.759 From sixty three. 0:40:14.560 --> 0:40:16.400 Yeah, you know, I felt like I felt like we 0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:18.560 had a good chance to get a shot there at 0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:19.200 the end of the half. 0:40:19.280 --> 0:40:20.920 And you never You're never out of it. 0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:22.719 And that's kind of what I learned throughout the years 0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:28.160 is never take time off, never let your mind wander, 0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:30.480 because in a blink of an eye, you can be 0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:32.640 thrown out there for a long field. 0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:33.200 Goal at the end of the half. 0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:35.440 And so I think we did a good job stand 0:40:35.960 --> 0:40:38.560 in the game and not just looking the foard to halftime, 0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:41.680 and we executed really well snap hold kick. 0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:43.359 Everybody blocked really well. 0:40:43.480 --> 0:40:45.359 And yeah, you know, it's just a lot of fun 0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:47.160 to get to go out there and attempt those and 0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:50.000 I'm just really happy that this one worked out for us. 0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:52.840 There aren't that many members at the sixty yard club 0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:53.920 in the NFL. 0:40:54.120 --> 0:40:56.719 Maybe all does, and I don't know, but it's not 0:40:56.800 --> 0:40:57.560 a huge list. 0:40:58.080 --> 0:41:00.600 How significant is it to have that one extra yard 0:41:00.640 --> 0:41:02.279 from your previous long of fifty nine? 0:41:02.400 --> 0:41:03.800 Yeah, yeah, I've always thought about it. 0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:06.560 It would be cool to get one on the other 0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:09.680 side of the field one day. And you know, I'm 0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:12.680 just blessed if you putting that situation, that opportunity, that 0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:14.800 coach just trust me to go out there and make it. 0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:18.200 And I'm just glad that, you know, they have that. 0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:18.800 Trust in me. 0:41:19.160 --> 0:41:22.000 A little extra special after the sixty seven yarder that 0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:24.520 was good but didn't count at Green Bank. 0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:27.640 Yeah, yeah, you know, I always enjoy like I feel 0:41:27.680 --> 0:41:30.560 like my rookieyar. I enjoyed the fifty plus attempts and 0:41:30.800 --> 0:41:33.560 now it's kind of switched to like sixty plus. It 0:41:33.880 --> 0:41:35.360 is a lot of fun just go out there and 0:41:35.400 --> 0:41:38.239 swing away and kind of see what happens. And I 0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:41.880 feel like when we go out there, we're looked at 0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:44.520 to make those kicks, and so you know, I felt 0:41:44.560 --> 0:41:47.960 confident going into it, and with how we've been hitting 0:41:47.960 --> 0:41:50.680 it in practice and the operation and how everything's going, 0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:53.719 so it felt good run out would feel for that one. 0:41:54.000 --> 0:41:56.960 The NFL record is sixty eight. Now yeah, how long 0:41:57.000 --> 0:41:59.200 would that have been good from? But the way you 0:41:59.239 --> 0:42:02.399 struck that ball, man, I don't we needed the track man. 0:42:02.840 --> 0:42:04.480 You know how they used to have to set up 0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:05.200 good from. 0:42:06.600 --> 0:42:07.160 I'm not sure. 0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:10.120 I think maybe you got. 0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:12.680 Another five on it or so. 0:42:13.480 --> 0:42:15.919 It's hard to really tell, but uh, i'd say maybe 0:42:16.000 --> 0:42:16.960 about another five. 0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:19.680 I think you're right. The rights on the record, thank 0:42:19.719 --> 0:42:22.560 you is that you would as you can hit the ball. Yeah, 0:42:22.560 --> 0:42:23.480 I hit that one pretty cool. 0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:28.360 Yeah, it's probably the best hit of the day, I 0:42:28.440 --> 0:42:30.840 would say, but yeah, that was kind of like the 0:42:30.880 --> 0:42:33.279 perfect perfect and it all be the show. 0:42:33.400 --> 0:42:34.920 Yeah, yeah, good reference. 0:42:35.160 --> 0:42:37.200 They had you up on the big book on the 0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:39.239 video board after they announced the record. 0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:40.640 Were you aware it was a record? 0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:44.680 Yeah, I know. I mean we hit the fifty nine 0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:49.680 yarder in my second year and that was the record, 0:42:49.719 --> 0:42:51.560 and them Kaide came in last year and tied it, 0:42:53.200 --> 0:42:56.560 and I just I was aware that the record was 0:42:56.600 --> 0:43:00.239 fifty nine and now we just kind of keep from 0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:00.680 the back. 0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:02.440 I guess because there's something magical about. 0:43:02.239 --> 0:43:06.360 Sixty magical backseat. I mean, it just feels good, honestly, 0:43:06.800 --> 0:43:08.319 it feels good to get one on the other side 0:43:08.320 --> 0:43:11.120 of the field, and I think it's impressive when other 0:43:11.160 --> 0:43:13.239 guys do it. So I'm just happy that I could 0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:15.919 go out there and do it as well fourteenth time 0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:16.800 in NFL history. 0:43:16.840 --> 0:43:18.440 From that far away there you go. 0:43:19.000 --> 0:43:21.319 From sixty three or just sixty four, the sixty three 0:43:21.719 --> 0:43:25.200 all right, you had Tom Dempsey that he was he was. 0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:25.719 The first one. 0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:28.160 Is sixty three auted from the record exactly? 0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:29.960 Yeah, so long before you were born. 0:43:30.600 --> 0:43:31.520 That was very correct. 0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:33.960 Yeah, it has been surpassed, but I mean for a 0:43:34.000 --> 0:43:35.680 long time, sixty three is kind of the white whale 0:43:35.760 --> 0:43:37.719 that was the I'm sure when you were growing up 0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:39.120 that was the mark. 0:43:39.239 --> 0:43:41.840 Is that meaningful, the sixty three in of itself? 0:43:42.480 --> 0:43:44.560 Yeah, No, I mean it's very meaningful because I mean 0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:46.800 as a kid going through college and high school, like 0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:49.960 you always dream of those situations and you know, I 0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:53.120 mean I hit the sixty yarder like in high school 0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:56.040 and had the state record for a little bit until 0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:59.640 my little brother broke it. But uh, you always dream 0:43:59.719 --> 0:44:02.480 of the type of situations just to kind of keep 0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:04.839 the energy up going to the halftime, you know, get 0:44:04.880 --> 0:44:08.279 the team rolling a little bit. And I was just 0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:10.400 I just be really excited to get that opportunity. 0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:13.600 Did you uh knew he was a record? 0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:15.920 Did you talk about it with Kate when he tied it? 0:44:16.160 --> 0:44:17.120 Did you guys talk about that? 0:44:17.760 --> 0:44:17.920 Yeah? 0:44:17.960 --> 0:44:19.479 I think I gave him a little bit of grief 0:44:19.520 --> 0:44:21.680 about it, and like he come in for a few 0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:24.920 weeks and he tied my my franchise record. But uh no, 0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:28.480 you know, in the moment, obviously happy for him because 0:44:29.960 --> 0:44:32.360 you know, I don't rid against any kickers anytime, and 0:44:32.840 --> 0:44:35.080 I just want everybody to to out there succeed and 0:44:36.000 --> 0:44:39.040 if that kick game another opportunity on a team, you know, 0:44:39.080 --> 0:44:40.000 I'd be happy for him. 0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:41.560 So but uh. 0:44:43.120 --> 0:44:45.400 After it was all the other guy with the other guy, Yeah. 0:44:45.239 --> 0:44:49.440 He was just saying obviously congrats, and I think he 0:44:49.640 --> 0:44:52.200 topped my kick for sure with that last one that 0:44:52.280 --> 0:44:54.440 he had. I think that that last kick that he 0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:57.200 had tops my why kick of the half just the 0:44:58.160 --> 0:45:00.319 the point in the game obviously made a sick point, 0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:02.400 gave me a touchdown. We couldn't just go down there 0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:03.960 and kick a long field goal to tight and send 0:45:03.960 --> 0:45:06.440 it overtime. So I think I think Andy got us 0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:09.240 right there at the end, and that was really impressive 0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:09.879 kick by him. 0:45:10.360 --> 0:45:11.480 Congratulations, Yeah, thank you. 0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:12.880 You talked about stand ready all the time. 0:45:12.920 --> 0:45:14.839 When when Chase rips off that twenty one yard run, 0:45:14.920 --> 0:45:16.480 is that when the juices really start pumping. 0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:17.600 Like we might have a shot at this, you know, 0:45:17.920 --> 0:45:19.680 it's like, I feel like that's kind of what I 0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:23.360 struggled with as a rookie is there's twenty seconds left 0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:25.920 and into the first half, I'm like, oh, there's no 0:45:26.080 --> 0:45:30.239 way we're gonna kick, and sure enough, you break a 0:45:30.320 --> 0:45:33.360 long pass, break a long run, and you're up. So 0:45:34.200 --> 0:45:36.640 I feel like since then, it's just kind of you 0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:39.240 never take a down off. You know, anything can happen, 0:45:40.680 --> 0:45:41.720 especially with this offense. 0:45:42.239 --> 0:45:44.200 So you said best kick of the day, Does that 0:45:44.239 --> 0:45:46.880 include warm ups because you were blasting enough from Yeah, I. 0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:47.440 Would say so. 0:45:47.640 --> 0:45:50.239 I think I hit that one probably the cleanest out 0:45:50.280 --> 0:45:52.040 of any ball all day, and I was hitting it 0:45:52.080 --> 0:45:52.560 pretty well. 0:45:53.239 --> 0:45:53.360 You know. 0:45:53.400 --> 0:45:55.880 I was happy with the first field goal and the 0:45:56.000 --> 0:45:59.080 extra points. I thought I hit him well and definitely 0:45:59.160 --> 0:46:00.279 hit the six three. 0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:03.719 You hit the up right from sixty and warm ups, 0:46:03.760 --> 0:46:05.200 it looked like that one would have beener from seventy. 0:46:05.239 --> 0:46:06.480 It was way up on right. 0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:08.160 Yep, yeah, going the same way. 0:46:08.280 --> 0:46:08.440 Yeah. 0:46:08.520 --> 0:46:12.840 So we had a good feeling, like through pregame of 0:46:12.960 --> 0:46:13.759 what our range was. 0:46:14.000 --> 0:46:17.040 Evan after the record setting day, he matched the legendary 0:46:17.200 --> 0:46:20.080 Tom Dempsey with a sixty three. A last there's a 0:46:20.200 --> 0:46:23.719 name blast from the past. No fun intended fourteenth time 0:46:23.760 --> 0:46:26.440 in NFL history a kicker has hit from sixty or beyond. 0:46:26.800 --> 0:46:31.080 The Dempsey record stood for forty three years. Wow, Matt 0:46:31.160 --> 0:46:35.080 Prater got to sixty four yards in twenty thirteen. The 0:46:35.200 --> 0:46:38.440 record sixty eight by Cam Little just three weeks ago. 0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:42.359 And the way the kicking game is going, somebody may 0:46:42.400 --> 0:46:46.480 get yesterday. The way it looked, Evans kick had another 0:46:46.840 --> 0:46:49.640 four or five yards beyond that, somebody may get Cam 0:46:49.800 --> 0:46:51.879 Little sixty eight yards before the season's over. 0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:53.799 I agree with you, Lance, I mean when he hit 0:46:53.920 --> 0:46:56.080 that field goal, when it hit the net, it was 0:46:56.120 --> 0:46:58.560 halfway up the net. You know, it wasn't just barely 0:46:58.680 --> 0:47:03.440 over the crossbar. He cleared that bad boy easily, easily. 0:47:03.960 --> 0:47:08.360 So I mean there's more yards left for Evan McPherson 0:47:08.440 --> 0:47:09.399 to gain, that's for sure. 0:47:10.160 --> 0:47:12.560 I had forgotten he hit a sixty earner, he said 0:47:12.560 --> 0:47:14.640 in high school, and had the state record for a 0:47:14.719 --> 0:47:17.840 little bit until his little brother broke his record. So 0:47:17.960 --> 0:47:21.759 clearly the kicking McPherson family the way they booted, and 0:47:21.840 --> 0:47:25.600 according to the Elias Sports Bureau, McPherson becomes the fourth 0:47:25.680 --> 0:47:28.080 kicker in history to kick a sixty yarder and a 0:47:28.160 --> 0:47:30.960 fifty yarder in the same game. And while we're on it, 0:47:31.080 --> 0:47:34.160 let's give let's give Darren Simmons some credit. Special Teams 0:47:34.239 --> 0:47:37.920 Unit some credit. Evan went through some stages of his 0:47:38.040 --> 0:47:40.760 confidence waivered last year. He had gone through an injury. 0:47:41.080 --> 0:47:44.160 They bring in a new long snapper, and it has 0:47:44.239 --> 0:47:47.240 certainly all come together to work as a well oiled machine. 0:47:47.280 --> 0:47:50.359 And he's feeling obviously, Evan is feeling fully confident right now. 0:47:50.440 --> 0:47:53.879 Yeah, I agree. And Darren Simmons is extremely confident in him. 0:47:53.920 --> 0:47:56.680 There's no question about that. He just he thinks, you know, 0:47:56.760 --> 0:47:59.879 it's automatic. I mean, it's money. Mack is as out 0:47:59.880 --> 0:48:03.040 of because he's ever been around. And Darren Simmons does 0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:04.719 a hell of a job. I mean, he's the best 0:48:04.719 --> 0:48:06.640 special teams coach the Bengals I've ever had, and I 0:48:06.680 --> 0:48:09.000 think he's the best special teams coach in the NFL 0:48:09.040 --> 0:48:12.239 has ever seen. I think he is extraordinary with what 0:48:12.360 --> 0:48:16.040 he does. He's kind of on the cutting edge. He's 0:48:16.080 --> 0:48:18.640 at the forefront of everything. He's not always trying to 0:48:18.680 --> 0:48:21.239 catch up. He's always the guy that's like, hey, I 0:48:21.320 --> 0:48:23.480 got something new and different. Let's take a look at 0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:27.800 this and Moneymack and kickers in general, because Darren was 0:48:27.840 --> 0:48:32.160 a kicker himself at the collegiate level, so kickers do 0:48:32.360 --> 0:48:34.800 respond to him, and he knows how to handle kickers. 0:48:34.880 --> 0:48:37.640 He understands the psyche and psychology a kickers. 0:48:37.920 --> 0:48:40.760 And Dave Sitcha, it can't be understated what a weapon 0:48:40.840 --> 0:48:43.319 it is to have somebody like may Peerson, who when 0:48:43.360 --> 0:48:45.840 you're on a drive and can think, right, if we 0:48:45.920 --> 0:48:48.520 get to you know, the forty, the opponent's forty. I mean, 0:48:48.600 --> 0:48:52.080 yesterday that hole was on the logo. I mean, it 0:48:52.239 --> 0:48:55.000 just changes if you're Zach you're play calling late in 0:48:55.080 --> 0:48:57.840 games where you looking for field goal range compared to 0:48:57.920 --> 0:48:59.320 a lot of other kickers in the NFL. 0:48:59.480 --> 0:49:02.640 Absolutely, and in my mind, not just Evan, but all 0:49:02.680 --> 0:49:05.320 the kickers that you referenced, seventy yards is going to 0:49:05.360 --> 0:49:08.439 happen at some point, somebody's gonna drill a seventy yard 0:49:08.520 --> 0:49:10.800 field goal and it's like, are you kidding me? Shouldn't 0:49:10.800 --> 0:49:13.319 they be turned around kicking the other way? They're kicking 0:49:13.360 --> 0:49:16.520 at the wrong goalpost, aren't they. I mean, it's amazing 0:49:16.960 --> 0:49:19.880 the range that these kickers have. It really is all right. 0:49:19.920 --> 0:49:21.960 We are up and running in our second hour tonight, 0:49:22.080 --> 0:49:24.640 let's talk a little O line. We'll hear from Orlando 0:49:24.960 --> 0:49:27.399 Brown Junior and more in the day for Chase Brown 0:49:27.520 --> 0:49:30.320 running the football, that is, we continue Bengals line of 0:49:30.360 --> 0:49:33.879 the Bengals Radio Network and ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 0:49:38.560 --> 0:49:41.280 We're rolling right along on this Monday night talking Bengals 0:49:41.360 --> 0:49:44.080 on the show we call Bengals on Bengals Radio Network 0:49:44.120 --> 0:49:47.400 and ESPN fifteen thirty Alliance. McAllister. He is Dave Lapham. 0:49:47.440 --> 0:49:50.200 We've got plenty to sort through between now and nine 0:49:50.200 --> 0:49:53.879 o'clock tonight. We've worked our way through this Patriots game. 0:49:53.920 --> 0:49:56.319 We'll eventually get to the Baltimore Ravens on Thursday night. 0:49:56.440 --> 0:49:59.200 Let's not leave out the offensive line. Yeah, yesterday Joe 0:49:59.280 --> 0:50:02.080 Flacco sack so one time in thirty eight drop backs. 0:50:02.320 --> 0:50:04.279 On the ground, they rushed for one hundred and twenty 0:50:04.360 --> 0:50:07.120 yards as a team, five point two yards per carry. 0:50:07.320 --> 0:50:09.359 Here's Orlando Brown after the game. 0:50:09.840 --> 0:50:12.680 Orlando, obviously, you guys fought really hard, went down to 0:50:12.719 --> 0:50:14.480 the wire. It seems like every game right now it's 0:50:14.520 --> 0:50:16.560 going down to the wire. Come up a bit short. 0:50:16.840 --> 0:50:20.040 Yeah, oh man, It's it's tough, you know, I can't 0:50:20.080 --> 0:50:22.480 say enough great things about the men in here though, 0:50:22.719 --> 0:50:25.120 you know, to continue to come out here day after day, 0:50:25.160 --> 0:50:26.880 week after week and continue to fight no matter what 0:50:26.920 --> 0:50:30.359 the circumstances are. It's unfortunate that, you know, we haven't 0:50:30.400 --> 0:50:32.200 done enough to win some of these games, but. 0:50:33.800 --> 0:50:36.960 The fight is there when you see the defense do 0:50:37.080 --> 0:50:38.799 what they've done. There's been so much talk, it seems 0:50:38.840 --> 0:50:40.960 back and forth. Earlier this season, it was the offense. 0:50:41.520 --> 0:50:43.440 You get Flacco in there, the offense picks up, the 0:50:43.520 --> 0:50:46.440 defense flags a bit, and then this week they come up. 0:50:46.440 --> 0:50:49.360 I think they have nine plays inside the five and 0:50:49.480 --> 0:50:52.239 they don't let the Patriots score. Obviously had the pick 0:50:52.360 --> 0:50:54.440 sixth today that you know, they had another goal line 0:50:54.440 --> 0:50:55.800 stand where they hold them to a field goal to 0:50:55.880 --> 0:50:58.640 keep it a one possession game. Just their fight and 0:50:58.719 --> 0:50:59.080 what you saw. 0:50:59.400 --> 0:51:01.440 Yeah, no, man, I think it's always important to keep 0:51:01.440 --> 0:51:05.040 perspective when we talk about ball, and you know, offensively, 0:51:05.960 --> 0:51:08.520 you know, obviously we've got a ton of notoriety because 0:51:08.520 --> 0:51:10.320 of the superstars on our side of the field, but 0:51:11.239 --> 0:51:13.640 our defensive guys come in and they work hard. You know, 0:51:13.800 --> 0:51:16.600 coach coach Al and his staff man they work hard. 0:51:17.719 --> 0:51:19.920 You know, they they love the game, and you know, 0:51:19.960 --> 0:51:21.880 I'm so happy that they were able to come out 0:51:21.920 --> 0:51:25.200 here today and make the plays that they made, especially 0:51:25.320 --> 0:51:27.799 during that goal line red zone situation. Man, it's it's 0:51:27.800 --> 0:51:30.239 always hard on the defense to do that, and you know, 0:51:30.280 --> 0:51:33.839 it seems like they did it without blinking. And you know, man, 0:51:33.840 --> 0:51:35.960 it's unfortunately we didn't go down to score points after that. 0:51:36.080 --> 0:51:39.400 But you know, man, we we're growing. 0:51:39.560 --> 0:51:41.760 We're growing, and to me, that's that's really important. 0:51:42.280 --> 0:51:44.800 It's always tough when you don't have Jamar Chase. Of course, 0:51:45.400 --> 0:51:47.440 Joe Flacco figured it out at the end. He was 0:51:47.440 --> 0:51:49.279 starting to get out. You guys are getting into a 0:51:49.320 --> 0:51:50.840 bit of a rhythm. One thing that stood out to 0:51:50.880 --> 0:51:53.279 me Chase Brown average five plus yards to carry, one 0:51:53.320 --> 0:51:56.800 hundred plus yards rushing. You guys have been consistent, it 0:51:56.880 --> 0:51:58.880 seems like running the ball over the past five or 0:51:58.920 --> 0:51:59.400 six weeks. 0:51:59.719 --> 0:52:02.040 Yeah, No, we have, man, And that's a testament to 0:52:03.120 --> 0:52:05.400 you know, our our coaches just putting us in great position, 0:52:06.640 --> 0:52:09.080 allowing calling the runs. You know what I mean, chaste, 0:52:09.120 --> 0:52:12.800 making a lot of people miss receivers, blocking man. Running 0:52:12.800 --> 0:52:15.200 the ball is it is a twelve man effort and 0:52:15.400 --> 0:52:17.799 that includes a coach, we don't really to play caller. 0:52:17.960 --> 0:52:20.719 So you know, man, I think all those things have 0:52:20.800 --> 0:52:22.759 been falling in line for us in that area. 0:52:23.920 --> 0:52:26.719 It's a short week. How do you rebound and get 0:52:26.760 --> 0:52:27.719 ready for bothim. 0:52:27.760 --> 0:52:30.279 We get some sleep, ready to go kick some masks 0:52:30.320 --> 0:52:32.640 on Thanksgiving. Man, it's my first time playing on Thanksgiving. 0:52:33.560 --> 0:52:36.759 We'll be back in Baltimore against a really good Baltimore team. Man, 0:52:36.880 --> 0:52:38.080 So I'm excited. 0:52:38.239 --> 0:52:41.040 Orlando Brown summon up the afternoon by the O line. 0:52:41.080 --> 0:52:42.640 What did you make of the performance of the O 0:52:42.800 --> 0:52:43.760 line as a whole, Dave. 0:52:43.840 --> 0:52:46.759 Well, the numbers you referenced there, Lance averaging five point 0:52:46.840 --> 0:52:49.840 two or carry and give up one quarterback sack against 0:52:49.920 --> 0:52:53.359 a Mike Rabel coach defensive football team. That's pretty damn 0:52:53.400 --> 0:52:56.279 good effort. Yeah, that's a good performance right there. Uh. 0:52:56.480 --> 0:52:59.480 And I thought that the on the on the edges, 0:52:59.600 --> 0:53:02.319 I thought the tackle has played one of their best 0:53:02.360 --> 0:53:05.359 games combined, you know, the tandem, the duo of those 0:53:05.400 --> 0:53:07.520 two guys. I thought Orlando Brown or Marius men has 0:53:07.520 --> 0:53:09.279 played at a pretty high level. I thought that they 0:53:09.719 --> 0:53:11.960 did a good job of keeping Joe Flacco upright and 0:53:12.040 --> 0:53:14.719 allowing him to throw the football and feel confident he 0:53:14.800 --> 0:53:17.120 wasn't going to get hit while he was throwing the football. 0:53:17.160 --> 0:53:20.440 I thought Ted Krris played well inside. You know, he's 0:53:20.480 --> 0:53:22.600 obviously one of the captains of the football team, a 0:53:22.719 --> 0:53:26.360 tremendous leader, and he's going to battle you every single snap. 0:53:26.440 --> 0:53:30.000 And he kept the pocket firm for Joe Flacco to to, 0:53:30.280 --> 0:53:33.000 you know, climb the pocket if need be. And thought 0:53:33.040 --> 0:53:35.839 the young guards, you know, Dylan Fairchild, I thought played 0:53:35.840 --> 0:53:38.920 pretty pretty well. He plays hard man, and you know 0:53:39.040 --> 0:53:41.400 he's he's a powerful kid. I mean, he's he's got 0:53:41.400 --> 0:53:43.440 a bright future in the National Football League. He's going 0:53:43.480 --> 0:53:45.000 to be around a long time. He's not going to 0:53:45.000 --> 0:53:47.960 be a one hit wonder here for a rookie season 0:53:48.040 --> 0:53:51.840 and then gone elsewhere in the National Football League. So overall, 0:53:51.960 --> 0:53:54.520 I thought, probably it was one of the better games, 0:53:54.600 --> 0:53:57.640 if not the best game that they've had collectively as 0:53:57.640 --> 0:54:00.400 an offensive line, particularly when you consider it the the 0:54:00.440 --> 0:54:01.520 defense they played against. 0:54:01.719 --> 0:54:04.040 Chase Brown goes for one hundred and seven on the ground. 0:54:04.160 --> 0:54:06.600 That's five straight games with at least one hundred yards 0:54:06.680 --> 0:54:11.080 of one hundred yards from scrimmage, and Dave I would 0:54:11.120 --> 0:54:13.080 have lost a bet on this. I'm looking this morning 0:54:13.280 --> 0:54:15.960 there as a team averaging four point four yards of carry. 0:54:16.560 --> 0:54:19.080 That would be their best season average on the ground 0:54:19.239 --> 0:54:22.800 since twenty eighteen, when they averaged four point seven, and 0:54:22.880 --> 0:54:25.440 even our guy Joe Goodbary Bengals on the Brain was 0:54:25.480 --> 0:54:27.840 pointing out it's the most efficient run game of the 0:54:28.000 --> 0:54:31.239 Zach Taylor era. It certainly didn't feel like that early 0:54:31.320 --> 0:54:33.239 in the year, but there's some momentum for how they're 0:54:33.280 --> 0:54:34.120 running the football now. 0:54:34.239 --> 0:54:35.920 Yeah, and I think Chase Brown has a lot to 0:54:36.000 --> 0:54:38.399 do with that. I think this kid is the real deal. 0:54:39.280 --> 0:54:41.880 He's you know, they'd list him at five ten, maybe 0:54:42.719 --> 0:54:44.719 they list him at two ten. I think he's a 0:54:44.760 --> 0:54:47.080 little bit more than that. But he has got a 0:54:47.160 --> 0:54:51.600 low center of gravity. He runs extremely hard. He's very 0:54:51.760 --> 0:54:55.320 very physical. He doesn't give you any hitting surface. He 0:54:55.440 --> 0:54:59.520 runs with a body lean, so he really breaks a 0:54:59.560 --> 0:55:03.480 lot of timeckles. He'll avoid contact. He's very quick. I mean, 0:55:03.560 --> 0:55:05.120 in a phone booth, it'd be hard to get a 0:55:05.200 --> 0:55:08.239 finger nail on the guy. And you know, he's a 0:55:08.480 --> 0:55:12.200 great combination. He also runs good routes and catches the football, 0:55:12.320 --> 0:55:15.320 does both of those things exceptionally well. Joe Flaco and 0:55:15.440 --> 0:55:18.000 Joe Burrow love to throw the football to him. When 0:55:18.000 --> 0:55:19.680 they check it down, they know they're going to get 0:55:19.760 --> 0:55:21.200 something out of it. You know it's not going to 0:55:21.239 --> 0:55:24.000 be check it down across your fingers and hope, hope 0:55:24.040 --> 0:55:27.360 and pray so and then the final thing that he 0:55:27.440 --> 0:55:31.120 does that Joe Flacco and Joe Burrow appreciate even more 0:55:31.200 --> 0:55:33.200 so is he'll stick his nose right in the middle 0:55:33.200 --> 0:55:36.040 of the chest of a linebackground blitz pick up. I mean, 0:55:36.120 --> 0:55:39.400 he'll like snap their heads, he'll knock them back. He 0:55:39.560 --> 0:55:41.239 is a football player in every sense of the word. 0:55:41.520 --> 0:55:44.640 You know, it's funny to say it that there's one 0:55:44.719 --> 0:55:46.600 more phase of his game, and I don't know how 0:55:46.640 --> 0:55:48.799 to put it into proper words, but there's so many 0:55:48.920 --> 0:55:51.880 times he will bust a nice run of fifteen twenty 0:55:52.000 --> 0:55:55.640 yards and he's like one one like grab of his 0:55:55.760 --> 0:55:57.759 shoe away from going. I thought yesterday he was going 0:55:57.760 --> 0:55:59.680 for seventy or seventy five to the house on to score. 0:56:00.040 --> 0:56:01.680 But and you think of what it would mean to 0:56:01.760 --> 0:56:05.080 his yarts per carry average after the twenty yard game 0:56:05.160 --> 0:56:07.239 if he just gets past that one last grab of 0:56:07.320 --> 0:56:09.080 his shoe for even more yards. 0:56:08.880 --> 0:56:12.960 Right right, Yeah, he is. He is special. And the 0:56:13.080 --> 0:56:17.680 thing about him. He's never satisfied now. He always wants 0:56:17.760 --> 0:56:20.000 to do more. It's like I could have gotten more 0:56:20.040 --> 0:56:22.919 out of that run. Boy, I appreciate the quarterback throwing 0:56:22.960 --> 0:56:24.399 me to the football. I get to get more yards 0:56:24.440 --> 0:56:26.760 for him after catch. He's that type of a player, 0:56:26.760 --> 0:56:29.400 and you know, and that's a good trait to have. 0:56:30.000 --> 0:56:33.399 Never be content, never be satisfied, always strive for more. 0:56:33.600 --> 0:56:36.040 When we continue, let's talk a little bit more about 0:56:36.120 --> 0:56:39.359 Joe Flacco and what he's brought to this team. If 0:56:39.440 --> 0:56:42.240 it is in fact Joe Burrow who takes over Thursday 0:56:42.320 --> 0:56:44.720 night and this is it for Joe Flacco for this season, 0:56:45.080 --> 0:56:47.560 there's a lot of praise to be directed towards Joe 0:56:47.640 --> 0:56:49.680 Flacco for not just what he's done on the field, 0:56:49.719 --> 0:56:51.839 but I think off the field. Let's spend some time 0:56:51.920 --> 0:56:54.120 on that as we continue with Bengals on It the 0:56:54.120 --> 0:57:06.200 Bengals Radio Network at ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Hey, 0:57:06.280 --> 0:57:08.360 let's keep things moving along on this Monday night of 0:57:08.400 --> 0:57:11.319 Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network in ESPN fifteen thirty. 0:57:11.400 --> 0:57:13.640 Lance but cant Lester Dave Lapham, Let's talk some more 0:57:13.719 --> 0:57:15.600 Joe Flaccowe hit don't even heard from him a little 0:57:15.600 --> 0:57:17.680 bit earlier. We'll hear from him later on in our 0:57:17.760 --> 0:57:20.920 third hour, and we'll talk Joe Burrow in our next segment, 0:57:20.920 --> 0:57:23.880 And if Joe returns on Thursday night, maybe it's that's 0:57:23.920 --> 0:57:26.600 it for Joe Flacco. But Dave, I think he's worthy 0:57:26.640 --> 0:57:29.440 of a segment of discussion of what he's meant to 0:57:29.600 --> 0:57:32.160 this franchise. I just I keep going back to. I 0:57:32.240 --> 0:57:34.640 know it's cliche to call him a pros pro, but 0:57:34.800 --> 0:57:40.360 there is such a wise, veteran presence and perspective that 0:57:40.520 --> 0:57:43.360 he's lent to this team that I think is in 0:57:43.480 --> 0:57:45.600 hearing all the guys talk week to week on this show. 0:57:45.920 --> 0:57:51.360 He just sounds different in his view, like looking down 0:57:51.440 --> 0:57:53.560 on it as a forty year old, right, looking down 0:57:53.600 --> 0:57:56.240 on everybody, but just looking at it from the biggest 0:57:56.280 --> 0:57:58.560 picture that anybody has on the team. There's just a 0:57:58.800 --> 0:58:01.760 unique positive he brings to this team. 0:58:01.800 --> 0:58:02.440 Does that make sense? 0:58:02.520 --> 0:58:05.280 I'm struggling to put into proper words, but there's just 0:58:05.360 --> 0:58:06.320 something about him. 0:58:06.240 --> 0:58:09.440 Yeah, he does. He has he has a charisma, you know, 0:58:10.000 --> 0:58:12.720 I mean, there is there's some kind of a a 0:58:13.000 --> 0:58:16.040 there's a calm to him. Yeah, oh yeah, Joe Cool 0:58:16.080 --> 0:58:19.760 and Joe comm. Yeah, Joe borrows Joe Cool, Joe Flacco's 0:58:19.800 --> 0:58:22.280 Joe comm And I do think those are the two 0:58:22.360 --> 0:58:26.120 quarterbacks that that'll be the duo, that the tandem next year. 0:58:26.640 --> 0:58:29.200 And uh and I think Joe Flacco will be okay 0:58:29.280 --> 0:58:33.040 with that now unless somebody offers him, you know, gobs 0:58:33.080 --> 0:58:35.800 of money and a starting opportunity. If you're a player 0:58:35.800 --> 0:58:37.480 in the National Football League, you want to start, you 0:58:37.520 --> 0:58:40.520 want to be a starting quarterback. But if there's no 0:58:40.680 --> 0:58:43.520 offers like that out there, Joe flaccol I think that 0:58:43.640 --> 0:58:48.280 he would be very content being not not content, that's 0:58:48.280 --> 0:58:51.440 probably the wrong word, but he would appreciate the opportunity 0:58:51.960 --> 0:58:54.480 to continue to be a part of this organization. He 0:58:54.760 --> 0:58:58.760 likes this football team a lot. He talks about hanging 0:58:58.840 --> 0:59:03.320 with the guys and uh and and he that's that's 0:59:03.400 --> 0:59:06.640 big to him, having that kind of a connection with 0:59:06.760 --> 0:59:12.680 his teammates. You know, it's playing sports is a unique 0:59:12.720 --> 0:59:15.360 thing in in that way in terms of bonding with 0:59:15.440 --> 0:59:19.240 other human beings, bonding with other people, and at the 0:59:19.320 --> 0:59:23.240 professional level, it's the most unique. I mean, it's crazy. 0:59:23.880 --> 0:59:24.000 Uh. 0:59:24.320 --> 0:59:28.040 And to get an opportunity to do it is something 0:59:28.120 --> 0:59:32.400 that I'll always treasure, There's no question about that. And 0:59:32.520 --> 0:59:34.240 then to do it for for ten years. I was 0:59:34.280 --> 0:59:35.200 fortunate enough to do that. 0:59:35.760 --> 0:59:36.120 And and. 0:59:37.640 --> 0:59:40.360 You just you look back on players and you have reunions. 0:59:40.400 --> 0:59:43.400 You know, you'll get together with teammates five, ten, twenty 0:59:43.480 --> 0:59:46.360 five years down the road. And Joe Flacco seems to 0:59:46.400 --> 0:59:49.680 be that kind of guy where he'll he'll want to 0:59:49.720 --> 0:59:52.320 talk to teammates about what they're doing with their lives 0:59:52.400 --> 0:59:55.600 and how their lives have gone. And uh, Flaco, he's 0:59:55.640 --> 0:59:59.080 got five kids, man, he and his wife five young children, 0:59:59.200 --> 1:00:01.760 so he's got a lot on his plate and and 1:00:01.840 --> 1:00:04.479 he handles it oh so well. And he's a great 1:00:04.520 --> 1:00:08.920 example for young players to understand how to be a 1:00:09.080 --> 1:00:11.800 pros pro. Like you say, do everything you need to 1:00:11.840 --> 1:00:14.200 get ready to play at the highest level you possibly 1:00:14.280 --> 1:00:17.160 can on a weekly basis, as well as take care 1:00:17.200 --> 1:00:19.880 of your family. That's a that's a big burden, that's 1:00:19.880 --> 1:00:23.000 a big task, and Flacco does pretty flawlessly, no doubt. 1:00:23.000 --> 1:00:25.640 I mean, I think the example part is such a 1:00:25.720 --> 1:00:28.919 good thing. And I've heard people say and it's weird 1:00:29.000 --> 1:00:33.080 sometimes because there's so much love and support for Joe Burrow. 1:00:33.200 --> 1:00:35.760 Sometimes it's taken if you say something positive about Flacco, 1:00:35.880 --> 1:00:38.120 it's meant as a negative Joe. That's that has nothing 1:00:38.160 --> 1:00:41.800 to out of that. It's two separate worlds. Joe Flacco 1:00:41.920 --> 1:00:45.240 can be a great example for how he handles himself 1:00:45.280 --> 1:00:48.920 in news, the press conferences, in the locker room, and 1:00:49.360 --> 1:00:51.320 in the game and on the sidelines. That has nothing 1:00:51.360 --> 1:00:53.800 to do with Joe Burrow. It's just Joe's just very 1:00:53.960 --> 1:00:57.080 good at that at the whole package. Whether and I'm 1:00:57.240 --> 1:00:59.680 trying to remember the example now of the moment where 1:01:01.120 --> 1:01:03.200 it was Yoshi, after Yoshi had had the game with 1:01:03.280 --> 1:01:06.120 a couple of drops. Yoshi related that that Joe went 1:01:06.200 --> 1:01:07.880 to him and talked to him after the game and 1:01:07.960 --> 1:01:10.040 let you know, hang in the you know, paraphrasing, hang 1:01:10.120 --> 1:01:12.760 in there. You know everybody has days like that. That's 1:01:12.880 --> 1:01:16.200 part of the quality that makes Joe Flacco valuable to 1:01:16.240 --> 1:01:16.960 a football team. 1:01:17.040 --> 1:01:18.960 Yeah, and that's the stuff that Joe Burrow could learn 1:01:19.040 --> 1:01:21.320 from him, and not that Joe Burrow doesn't do it already. 1:01:21.600 --> 1:01:24.280 Joe Burrow, his teammates said that Joe Burrow is great. 1:01:24.680 --> 1:01:28.520 You know, when you make a crucial mistake that hurts 1:01:28.560 --> 1:01:31.160 the football team. Joe's Borrow's the first one over there. Hey, 1:01:31.240 --> 1:01:33.080 forget about it. Let's you know, don't let one bad 1:01:33.520 --> 1:01:36.080 play turn it to do uh, let's move on from 1:01:36.120 --> 1:01:38.080 the mistakes and let's go get it done. Let's go 1:01:38.200 --> 1:01:40.440 win a football game. And that's what Paul Brown was 1:01:40.440 --> 1:01:42.800 all about, you know, don't let those kind of things linger. 1:01:43.280 --> 1:01:45.880 And uh and and I and I think Joe Flacco. 1:01:45.920 --> 1:01:48.320 That's why I think those two is a duo. There's 1:01:48.360 --> 1:01:50.120 a lot to uh, you know, a lot to be 1:01:50.240 --> 1:01:53.800 gained by uh, by the two Joe's Joe common, Joe 1:01:53.880 --> 1:01:56.040 cool as as a tandement as a duo, and they 1:01:56.080 --> 1:01:58.680 can learn from each other. I mean, Joe Burrow. When 1:01:58.760 --> 1:02:01.360 Joe Flacco comes off the field, Joe Burrow is the 1:02:01.400 --> 1:02:03.040 first one there to give him a nugget, you know. 1:02:03.200 --> 1:02:06.320 And I'm sure Flacco really appreciates it. I'm sure he 1:02:06.400 --> 1:02:08.080 takes it in the right way. And he's going to 1:02:08.120 --> 1:02:09.760 be able to do that for Joe Burrow as well 1:02:10.080 --> 1:02:13.240 when Joe Burrow is back and playing for the Cincinnati Bengals. 1:02:13.280 --> 1:02:15.560 And I think I think Joe's looking forward to and 1:02:15.600 --> 1:02:18.160 I think both quarterbacks enjoy that part of it. 1:02:18.840 --> 1:02:21.280 I think if there's there's so many different Joe Flacco 1:02:21.440 --> 1:02:24.000 moments I'm going to take from this season, but yesterday's 1:02:24.040 --> 1:02:26.440 the latest. We're talking about a forty year old quarterback 1:02:26.720 --> 1:02:29.120 who's dealing with at least something in his shoulder, who 1:02:29.200 --> 1:02:31.840 dislocates his finger, who leaves for one play, who comes 1:02:31.920 --> 1:02:35.280 back and then throws just one of the prettiest passes 1:02:35.360 --> 1:02:37.400 in the corner of the end zone to Tinsley, And 1:02:37.440 --> 1:02:40.200 I'm like, Joe, that would look at that. Look what 1:02:40.360 --> 1:02:41.600 Joe Flacco just did. 1:02:41.960 --> 1:02:46.120 Yeah, I mean, there's only only a few people walking 1:02:46.200 --> 1:02:49.080 planet Earth that can do that man, and Joe Flacco 1:02:49.560 --> 1:02:51.720 he's definitely one of them. He throws it beautiful. 1:02:51.880 --> 1:02:53.840 And Dave had I said when they traded for him. 1:02:53.880 --> 1:02:55.520 Had We've been sitting here and said, all right, let's 1:02:55.520 --> 1:02:58.200 say he quarterbacks for the next six games. How about 1:02:58.240 --> 1:03:01.120 if he completes sixty two percent of it, passes thirteen 1:03:01.240 --> 1:03:04.520 touchdowns to only four interceptions. We would have thought, WHOA, 1:03:04.640 --> 1:03:06.480 You're gonna get all of that from the forty year 1:03:06.480 --> 1:03:08.920 old Joe Flack who just joined this team. And they 1:03:09.040 --> 1:03:11.480 have and I know it's a bottom line business, and 1:03:11.520 --> 1:03:13.920 people say they only won one game with him, it's 1:03:14.000 --> 1:03:18.080 a team game, and he carried himself so well and 1:03:18.200 --> 1:03:20.560 put up numbers to go with it. I know he 1:03:20.960 --> 1:03:23.120 had took a sack that took him out of a 1:03:23.120 --> 1:03:25.000 field goal range yesterday and threw a pick six. He 1:03:25.040 --> 1:03:27.480 hasn't been perfect, but man, what he's added to this team. 1:03:27.640 --> 1:03:30.600 It's a pretty nice pickup for a trade midweek for 1:03:30.680 --> 1:03:31.480 a six round. 1:03:31.360 --> 1:03:33.320 Pick, no question about it. What it would go down 1:03:33.360 --> 1:03:34.880 as one of the one of the better trades in 1:03:34.960 --> 1:03:38.000 franchise history, quite honestly. And when you have a quarterback 1:03:38.080 --> 1:03:40.640 rating in ninety one point four at any age, I'm 1:03:40.680 --> 1:03:43.680 not talking about you know, forty years old. That's unbelievable 1:03:43.960 --> 1:03:45.960 at forty years old, but a quarterback rating in ninety 1:03:46.000 --> 1:03:49.040 one point four is getting it done. And like you said, 1:03:49.320 --> 1:03:52.640 the touchdown to interception ratio better than three to one, 1:03:53.160 --> 1:03:56.600 and you know that, and any quarterback I know Kenny 1:03:56.680 --> 1:03:59.640 Anderson would always want to be at least two to one, 1:04:00.040 --> 1:04:01.520 and a lot of times he was three to one 1:04:01.640 --> 1:04:03.840 or better. But that's that's what you're looking for. You're 1:04:03.840 --> 1:04:06.280 looking for helping the football team as many times as 1:04:06.360 --> 1:04:09.000 you can and not hurting the football team as many 1:04:09.040 --> 1:04:09.640 times as you can. 1:04:10.200 --> 1:04:12.680 I would imagine over the years, final thought on the 1:04:12.840 --> 1:04:15.439 dislocation of the finger, and it was back in place, 1:04:15.480 --> 1:04:17.040 and he goes in and through it. I would imagine 1:04:17.040 --> 1:04:18.840 you dislocated a finger or two and you're. 1:04:19.080 --> 1:04:22.400 Yees, absolutely think I think all told, I think I 1:04:22.520 --> 1:04:26.440 dislocated four the ten. So yeah, popped him. The quicker 1:04:26.480 --> 1:04:28.000 you pop him back in though, I can tell you 1:04:28.080 --> 1:04:30.120 this from experience. So quicker you pop back in, the 1:04:30.200 --> 1:04:33.080 less swelling you get, and less disfigureing you get, so 1:04:33.320 --> 1:04:34.720 and you know, and you can get some ice on 1:04:34.800 --> 1:04:37.040 it right away after the game. I'm sure I said. 1:04:37.040 --> 1:04:40.280 In fact, I saw him before I came in here 1:04:40.440 --> 1:04:43.800 to work, to work together with you, and I think 1:04:43.840 --> 1:04:46.200 he was going in to get some treatment and make 1:04:46.240 --> 1:04:48.640 sure that he's ready to rock and roll, because he 1:04:48.720 --> 1:04:51.040 threw the ball really well. I mean that ball came 1:04:51.120 --> 1:04:53.480 off his hand pretty darn well. I think most of 1:04:53.560 --> 1:04:55.680 the time it was going where he wanted it. 1:04:55.760 --> 1:04:59.040 To take a time out to come back from one 1:04:59.120 --> 1:05:01.640 quarterback to the other. Let's talk about Joe Burrow in 1:05:01.720 --> 1:05:04.840 the potential return or all signs pointing to his return 1:05:04.920 --> 1:05:07.840 on Thursday night. He is Dave Lapham. I'm Lance Pacalister. 1:05:07.920 --> 1:05:10.240 It's Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network in seven 1:05:10.320 --> 1:05:22.160 hundred WLW. Hey, welcome back to Bengals Line in this 1:05:22.280 --> 1:05:24.520 Monday night. Thanks for hanging out and tagging along with 1:05:24.640 --> 1:05:27.440 us as we talk Bengals football each and every Monday 1:05:27.520 --> 1:05:30.920 night for three rock solid hours. We're making our way 1:05:30.960 --> 1:05:33.600 through yesterday's twenty six twenty loss to the Patriots. We'll 1:05:33.640 --> 1:05:36.400 get to those Baltimore Ravens as well. Lance Pacalister, along 1:05:36.440 --> 1:05:39.160 with Dave Lapham and Dave from one quarterback to the other, 1:05:39.240 --> 1:05:42.400 Joe Flacco to Joe Burrow. And would be fair to 1:05:42.520 --> 1:05:46.800 say all signs are pointing to the return of Joe 1:05:46.880 --> 1:05:48.360 Burrow on Thursday night. 1:05:48.840 --> 1:05:50.520 I would say so, Lance, I would think so. And 1:05:50.600 --> 1:05:54.520 I know the biggest driver of that is Joe Burrow himself. 1:05:54.880 --> 1:05:57.919 Joe Burrow is like enough is enough. I can't take 1:05:57.960 --> 1:06:02.840 it anymore, you know, I just absolutely despise watching my 1:06:02.960 --> 1:06:06.480 football team that I should be quarterbacking for. Uh go 1:06:06.600 --> 1:06:09.040 to war without me, go to battle? So I do. I. 1:06:09.200 --> 1:06:12.040 I think I think Joe Burrow will be at the 1:06:12.120 --> 1:06:15.400 quarterback position and I think it'll give give the entire 1:06:15.760 --> 1:06:19.440 you know, franchise a boost, a lift Uh in the offense. Uh, 1:06:19.560 --> 1:06:22.440 I know we'll we'll feel that. And I know for 1:06:22.520 --> 1:06:26.600 a fact the offensive line will. He's tight with those guys. 1:06:26.680 --> 1:06:29.080 He takes care of those guys. Uh. They they want 1:06:29.120 --> 1:06:30.600 to they want to make sure they take care of 1:06:30.680 --> 1:06:32.680 him and keep him safe and upright. 1:06:33.840 --> 1:06:37.760 He he's been through a lot, He's rehabbed his tail 1:06:37.800 --> 1:06:38.120 off to. 1:06:38.160 --> 1:06:38.959 Get to this point. 1:06:39.200 --> 1:06:39.480 You know. 1:06:39.680 --> 1:06:45.280 The the the debate among fans is why, why with 1:06:45.440 --> 1:06:48.000 the record the way it is, would you risk Joe Burrow? 1:06:48.360 --> 1:06:50.440 And I'll go back to it. I'll defer to what 1:06:50.800 --> 1:06:55.080 Zach said. After the game, winning is important, and they 1:06:55.160 --> 1:06:58.400 may be three and eight and there may only be 1:06:58.920 --> 1:07:02.360 six games left and the chances maybe minuscule of making 1:07:02.400 --> 1:07:06.959 the playoffs. But I always I fall back on players play, 1:07:07.240 --> 1:07:11.840 and if he's healthy, I understand him playing. Can it 1:07:11.920 --> 1:07:14.120 be as simple as that that players play? Is there 1:07:14.600 --> 1:07:18.000 is there any argument to be made where the record 1:07:18.160 --> 1:07:21.440 is would mean he shouldn't play. I just can't subscribe 1:07:21.480 --> 1:07:21.640 to that. 1:07:21.880 --> 1:07:24.560 No, I'm in total concert with you. I mean, if 1:07:24.640 --> 1:07:29.560 he's able to play, he will play. Biggest reason because 1:07:29.680 --> 1:07:34.840 he wants to play. Desperately wants to play football. He 1:07:34.960 --> 1:07:38.360 gets paid handsomely to play the game of football. And 1:07:38.720 --> 1:07:41.600 you know, he knows that the Cincinnati Bengals are a 1:07:41.680 --> 1:07:45.040 better football team when he's out there playing the quarterback position. 1:07:45.600 --> 1:07:47.400 So he wants to get out there and make the 1:07:47.440 --> 1:07:51.640 team hole again. And if you know, if you string 1:07:51.720 --> 1:07:55.600 together a few wins, man the difference between nine and 1:07:55.680 --> 1:07:59.600 eight and eight nine could be man a legitimate outside 1:07:59.640 --> 1:08:02.280 shot at the playoffs as opposed to no shot at 1:08:02.320 --> 1:08:06.200 the playoffs. So I think Joe Burrow, for many reasons, 1:08:06.720 --> 1:08:09.120 some that we just talked about, wants to play as 1:08:09.160 --> 1:08:10.760 many games as he possibly can. 1:08:11.080 --> 1:08:14.080 Yeah, and oh here, I hear this refrain a lot 1:08:14.160 --> 1:08:16.960 from people. They should they should tank and get a 1:08:17.040 --> 1:08:20.599 better draft pick. And I always say, I haven't played 1:08:20.600 --> 1:08:22.720 the game obviously, but I always say, how do you 1:08:22.840 --> 1:08:25.320 think that would play out? If you want a team 1:08:25.400 --> 1:08:25.800 to tank? 1:08:26.200 --> 1:08:26.800 What is that? 1:08:27.120 --> 1:08:29.320 How do you tell a team to tank? No player 1:08:29.439 --> 1:08:31.720 is not gonna want to play hard. You can't say 1:08:31.760 --> 1:08:33.839 all of a sudden, I'm gonna play all the backups 1:08:33.880 --> 1:08:35.760 and not play any of the starters because we're gonna 1:08:35.760 --> 1:08:38.880 secretly tank. It just it drives me when people say 1:08:38.920 --> 1:08:42.040 it like it's something so easily executed and understood by 1:08:42.080 --> 1:08:45.120 the actual players who would be told or not told, 1:08:45.280 --> 1:08:46.400 you're gonna be part of a tank. 1:08:46.520 --> 1:08:49.280 Yeah, there'd be a revolution. I mean, you know, the players, 1:08:49.439 --> 1:08:51.760 they're be an uprising. The players would be like, I 1:08:51.800 --> 1:08:53.160 don't want to be part of that, and I'm gonna 1:08:53.160 --> 1:08:55.200 go public about it. I'm gonna I'm gonna tell everybody 1:08:55.280 --> 1:08:57.880 that I know and uh and get on the get 1:08:57.960 --> 1:09:01.040 on my microphone and tell people that you know, Hey, 1:09:01.200 --> 1:09:04.080 they want us to lose football games. No, you want 1:09:04.080 --> 1:09:07.799 to You're you're making money. You're you're you're a professional. 1:09:07.880 --> 1:09:11.240 You're paid to play. You're not paid to lose. You're 1:09:11.320 --> 1:09:14.600 paid to win football games. You go out there, you 1:09:14.720 --> 1:09:15.240 suck it up. 1:09:15.640 --> 1:09:15.760 Uh. 1:09:15.880 --> 1:09:17.519 If you if you nicked up, dinged up, you suck 1:09:17.560 --> 1:09:19.559 it up and you go try to win a football game. 1:09:19.960 --> 1:09:23.280 And that's uh, that's why you're gonna be invited back 1:09:23.320 --> 1:09:25.800 the following year. If you don't do that, you're not 1:09:25.840 --> 1:09:27.920 gonna be around the National Football League very long. 1:09:28.360 --> 1:09:31.200 There's also the idea of if if you were to 1:09:31.479 --> 1:09:33.479 tell Joe, no, we're not going to play even though 1:09:33.479 --> 1:09:36.640 you're completely healthy, I would think everybody else in the 1:09:36.720 --> 1:09:39.599 locker room who's dealing with something a shoulder, a knee, 1:09:39.640 --> 1:09:42.000 an ankle, who's not feeling very good, Like, what about me? 1:09:42.160 --> 1:09:44.679 My thought would be, well, wait a minute, you're completely 1:09:44.800 --> 1:09:47.200 healthy and they're not going to play you. But I'm 1:09:47.320 --> 1:09:50.000 like barely hanging on here, strapped together with duct tape, 1:09:50.040 --> 1:09:51.920 with injuries, and I have to go out and play. 1:09:52.040 --> 1:09:53.240 The optics just don't work. 1:09:53.439 --> 1:09:55.840 Yeah, And I'm sure that's happened around the league, and 1:09:55.880 --> 1:09:58.800 I'm sure it's caused problems. It's caused issues. I mean, 1:09:59.160 --> 1:10:01.000 it could lead to fish. It's the cuffs, man. I mean, 1:10:01.080 --> 1:10:04.120 you know, it's like these guys are prideful and uh, 1:10:04.280 --> 1:10:07.439 you know, the the only way that you're evaluated, uh 1:10:07.760 --> 1:10:10.680 is wins and losses. That's the bottom line. It's like that, 1:10:11.160 --> 1:10:13.439 that's what you're all about. When you, uh, when you 1:10:13.520 --> 1:10:16.000 reflect back in your career, you know, you go back, Okay, well, 1:10:16.080 --> 1:10:18.120 jeezs in the seventies, oh man, we were eleven to three. 1:10:18.240 --> 1:10:19.880 That was a hell of a football team. Man. We 1:10:20.000 --> 1:10:22.200 had a good run. We had great players. What what 1:10:22.280 --> 1:10:25.000 a what a year that was? Oh two and fourteen, 1:10:25.040 --> 1:10:27.960 Oh Jesus, that was that was horsepucky man. I mean, 1:10:28.200 --> 1:10:31.080 it's just I can't I can't believe that that we 1:10:31.200 --> 1:10:34.040 played as poorly as we played. They never saw that coming. 1:10:34.400 --> 1:10:37.040 That that that's a total shock and embarrassment and we 1:10:37.160 --> 1:10:39.559 were embarrassment and embarrassment to the entire city. 1:10:39.840 --> 1:10:42.519 One final thought, and this would be perfect for you 1:10:42.760 --> 1:10:46.720 and I get this A lot the the fan thought of, well, 1:10:46.880 --> 1:10:49.479 Joe Flacco doesn't get sacked as much because he just 1:10:49.560 --> 1:10:51.920 gets rid of the ball, and Joe Burrow should do that. 1:10:52.120 --> 1:10:54.360 We know Joe is about extending plays and trying to 1:10:54.439 --> 1:10:57.800 create something. Can you is there anything to be drawn 1:10:57.880 --> 1:11:01.680 from all this? Or or say, did Joe like, hey, 1:11:01.960 --> 1:11:05.560 maybe try to get throw it away earlier? Can you 1:11:05.680 --> 1:11:08.479 do that? Or Joe six years into his career? Is 1:11:08.800 --> 1:11:09.679 is Joe the quarterback? 1:11:09.720 --> 1:11:09.880 He is? 1:11:09.920 --> 1:11:12.120 And you can't change him? Should you try to change him? 1:11:12.120 --> 1:11:13.160 What do you make of all that? 1:11:13.360 --> 1:11:18.640 Yeah, I mean there's there's a lot, yeah, but but 1:11:18.800 --> 1:11:21.439 the bottom line is, you know, you can't really change 1:11:22.200 --> 1:11:24.840 the way the quarterback wants to play the football game. 1:11:24.880 --> 1:11:28.560 And Joe, Joe Flacco is not you know, flee to 1:11:28.600 --> 1:11:30.479 foot now, He's not you know, he's not a stiff. 1:11:30.560 --> 1:11:33.000 It's not like he can't move. He moves pretty well. 1:11:33.320 --> 1:11:35.280 And he'll climb the pocket and he'll go side to 1:11:35.400 --> 1:11:39.800 side and he'll throw the football well. Uh, Joe Burrow, though, 1:11:39.960 --> 1:11:41.840 when you get him out of pocket, he's a threat. 1:11:41.880 --> 1:11:43.240 When he tucks it, he's a threat. 1:11:43.520 --> 1:11:43.640 You know. 1:11:43.800 --> 1:11:45.680 He'll probably run like four or five, you know, and 1:11:46.080 --> 1:11:48.760 in that range. I'm not sure what he ran coming 1:11:48.800 --> 1:11:51.080 out of college, but I bet he runs every bit 1:11:51.160 --> 1:11:53.360 as well as that now, maybe even a little bit better. 1:11:54.000 --> 1:11:54.040 So. 1:11:54.840 --> 1:11:57.600 And everybody who says that Joe Burrow should give up 1:11:57.640 --> 1:11:59.760 on a play and just throw it away, they're the 1:11:59.800 --> 1:12:02.240 same people who praised him when he extended to play 1:12:02.520 --> 1:12:04.600 and was stepping up in the pocketing diving ahead like 1:12:04.760 --> 1:12:07.200 Superman and throwing the ball into the endzone for a touchdown. 1:12:07.240 --> 1:12:09.880 They say, what a play that he extended and made 1:12:09.960 --> 1:12:12.920 something of. And that's how a lot of plays are 1:12:12.960 --> 1:12:16.080 made by Joe Burrow extending and buying some extra time 1:12:16.160 --> 1:12:18.880 to get Jamar Chase and opening her tea and opening. 1:12:18.720 --> 1:12:20.880 And I'll tell you what, all the defensive quarters in 1:12:20.960 --> 1:12:23.439 the National Football League would vote to have Joe Burrow 1:12:23.479 --> 1:12:27.080 and not run around anymore. And extending create plays because 1:12:27.439 --> 1:12:29.200 now I was talking to Marvin Lewis about that. He 1:12:29.760 --> 1:12:32.960 did the game for. I can't remember what network hed 1:12:33.000 --> 1:12:35.080 he was working with. He was doing color for the 1:12:35.120 --> 1:12:37.720 football game, and he said, in his mind, that's one 1:12:37.720 --> 1:12:40.200 of the big things that's a separator in Joe Burrow's 1:12:40.200 --> 1:12:42.760 favor And he said, it's a defensive coordinator. It's like 1:12:42.840 --> 1:12:45.960 you can't really scheme for that, you know, That's like 1:12:46.680 --> 1:12:50.000 that's the intangible, that's the variable that it makes Joe 1:12:50.080 --> 1:12:51.200 Burrow special. 1:12:51.840 --> 1:12:54.920 Let's take a time out, head down the stretch, final 1:12:55.000 --> 1:12:57.439 segment of they are here from Jalen Davis on his 1:12:57.600 --> 1:13:01.320 big day yesterday. He's Dave Lapham, Land McAllister Bengals Line, 1:13:01.360 --> 1:13:05.080 Bengals Radio Network and ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 1:13:12.160 --> 1:13:14.040 Down the stretch we go in our second of three 1:13:14.160 --> 1:13:16.599 big hours tonight. I Bengals one of the Bengals Radio 1:13:16.680 --> 1:13:19.880 network at ESPN fifteen thirty Lions. But callister Dave Lapham. 1:13:19.880 --> 1:13:22.200 We talked to defense earlier in Jalen Davis and his 1:13:22.320 --> 1:13:25.400 big day. Let's hear from Jalen on the day that 1:13:25.760 --> 1:13:27.240 was against the Patriots. 1:13:27.520 --> 1:13:29.320 Jalen, you moved into the starting line of today. I 1:13:29.360 --> 1:13:31.000 thought you played a great game. How did you feel 1:13:31.000 --> 1:13:31.839 about your performance? 1:13:32.479 --> 1:13:34.840 I feel like I played good, but you know, things 1:13:34.840 --> 1:13:37.240 feel a lot better when you win. So yeah, I 1:13:37.280 --> 1:13:39.200 played good, but we gotta go back to the droboard 1:13:40.240 --> 1:13:40.639 get better. 1:13:40.680 --> 1:13:43.320 On Thursday night, let's talk about what the defense did well. 1:13:43.600 --> 1:13:46.479 You held their offense to nineteen points, they scored a 1:13:46.560 --> 1:13:49.120 defensive touchdown. That's two weeks in a row now where 1:13:49.120 --> 1:13:52.479 it's been twenty or less. Do you see significant progress 1:13:52.800 --> 1:13:53.960 on the defensive side. 1:13:53.760 --> 1:13:54.120 Of the ball. 1:13:54.360 --> 1:13:57.080 Oh, I feel like we've been actually getting better every 1:13:57.200 --> 1:13:59.360 every week. We may getting better, but like I said, 1:13:59.400 --> 1:14:01.519 we still got a so much more to improve. So 1:14:01.640 --> 1:14:03.479 we all just gotta, like I said, get back to 1:14:03.520 --> 1:14:06.600 the von board, look all the mistakes, and just do 1:14:06.760 --> 1:14:07.160 better than. 1:14:07.600 --> 1:14:09.840 It seemed like the one thing the Patriots did that 1:14:10.000 --> 1:14:12.160 hurts you guys was find their kite ends over the 1:14:12.200 --> 1:14:15.479 middle of the field. Anything stand out from your perspective 1:14:15.560 --> 1:14:16.280 on those plays? 1:14:18.760 --> 1:14:19.680 Not that I can say right now. 1:14:19.720 --> 1:14:21.080 I just have to look at the film again and 1:14:21.400 --> 1:14:22.200 then go from there. 1:14:23.000 --> 1:14:25.720 Got to pick six defensive score from Geno Stone and 1:14:25.800 --> 1:14:27.240 gave the team a ten to nothing lead. 1:14:27.720 --> 1:14:28.840 What was your view of that play. 1:14:29.400 --> 1:14:30.559 Oh, it was turned up. 1:14:30.600 --> 1:14:32.479 You know what I'm saying, Boy, gotta pick six. There's 1:14:32.600 --> 1:14:33.280 none better than that. 1:14:33.520 --> 1:14:35.080 But like I said, we just gotta keep their foot 1:14:35.120 --> 1:14:37.479 on the next and don't let them in the next 1:14:37.560 --> 1:14:37.960 lether time. 1:14:39.479 --> 1:14:41.560 Guys gotta stop late in the game to give the 1:14:41.680 --> 1:14:44.040 offensive chance to pull it out. I mean, the Patriots 1:14:44.080 --> 1:14:46.400 did score three, but they weren't able to score a 1:14:46.479 --> 1:14:50.000 touchdown to pull away. Is that progress because there have 1:14:50.040 --> 1:14:51.720 been some games this year where you needed to get 1:14:51.760 --> 1:14:53.560 that stop late and couldn't quite do it. 1:14:55.120 --> 1:14:57.599 Proads for sure, but that's not the standard, the standards 1:14:57.680 --> 1:14:59.840 to not even give up three. So, like I said, 1:15:00.000 --> 1:15:02.240 gotta go back to the dramare and just get better, 1:15:02.520 --> 1:15:02.960 get better. 1:15:03.439 --> 1:15:06.200 How much did you enjoy having this opportunity today? 1:15:07.640 --> 1:15:09.280 I met everything so mean, man, I ain't been out 1:15:09.320 --> 1:15:12.479 there in a very long time, so I appreciate my 1:15:12.560 --> 1:15:13.720 brother's always holding me down. 1:15:15.080 --> 1:15:15.280 Yeah. 1:15:15.720 --> 1:15:16.960 Jalen, congrats and a great game. 1:15:17.000 --> 1:15:17.439 Appreciate it. 1:15:17.720 --> 1:15:18.599 That's Jalen Davis. 1:15:18.960 --> 1:15:22.320 Jayalen Davis on his Afternoon We mentioned it earlier, taking 1:15:22.360 --> 1:15:25.559 advantage of our opportunities promoted from the practice squad plugged 1:15:25.600 --> 1:15:29.000 in and results that'll that'll give him some confidence and 1:15:29.160 --> 1:15:32.040 continue to give coaches confidence. At eight, he's earned some 1:15:32.120 --> 1:15:32.960 more opportunities. 1:15:33.080 --> 1:15:36.360 Absolutely. I mean, you see a guy that his path 1:15:36.400 --> 1:15:39.600 to the National Football League was a difficult one. You know, 1:15:40.000 --> 1:15:43.280 he wasn't the star you know at every level. Oh, 1:15:43.320 --> 1:15:45.000 I shouldn't say that. He was probably hell of a 1:15:45.080 --> 1:15:48.200 player at high school, college levels, but you know, the 1:15:48.280 --> 1:15:50.800 superstar kind of guy, the immediate Hall of Fame or 1:15:50.840 --> 1:15:53.519 the Pro Bowl kind of guy. He's not that type 1:15:53.520 --> 1:15:55.360 of player. But when the coaches put him out there 1:15:55.720 --> 1:15:58.479 and he makes plays, they start to gain confidence in him, 1:15:58.720 --> 1:16:00.519 and he starts to gain confidence. It's in his own 1:16:00.560 --> 1:16:02.679 ability to go out. It's like I knew I could 1:16:02.680 --> 1:16:05.000 do this at the NFL level. I just needed a shot. 1:16:05.320 --> 1:16:08.000 I needed an opportunity. I needed somebody to give me 1:16:08.080 --> 1:16:13.040 the chance. And the Cincinnati Bengals organization and Al Golden 1:16:13.160 --> 1:16:15.360 they're giving me the chance. They're giving the opportunity, and 1:16:15.680 --> 1:16:17.519 they're rewarding me. So I'm going to reward them. 1:16:18.000 --> 1:16:20.719 Two hours in the books, Hang Tight. More from Zach Taylor, 1:16:20.840 --> 1:16:24.200 more from Joe Flacco. We'll hear fun facts with Dylan Fairchaw. 1:16:24.320 --> 1:16:28.000 Look at those Baltimore Ravens and more. 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I'm Lance Bacallister. 1:17:05.640 --> 1:17:08.679 He is Dave Leppo, Yes, Sir Lance, and Bengals Friday 1:17:08.760 --> 1:17:11.960 Night Stripes Tours presented by a hole Kat and it's 1:17:12.080 --> 1:17:14.280 back for more for all locations this season. Go to 1:17:14.320 --> 1:17:16.360 Bengals dot Com slash community. 1:17:16.520 --> 1:17:20.200 Twenty six twenty the final Yesterday the Baltimore Ravens. Next 1:17:20.320 --> 1:17:23.760 up on Thursday. Here's Zach after the game on what 1:17:24.000 --> 1:17:26.400 transpired and what's ahead on Thursday night. 1:17:29.160 --> 1:17:29.280 Fight. 1:17:29.720 --> 1:17:31.320 Well, the fight, I mean, it is what it is. 1:17:31.400 --> 1:17:36.559 We're we don't we want to we don't appreciate losing. 1:17:37.320 --> 1:17:42.800 It's it's an awful feeling, sick. But our guys they 1:17:42.880 --> 1:17:46.280 just keep showing up. Man, they keep they keep doing 1:17:46.320 --> 1:17:48.439 a great job during the course of the week, keep 1:17:48.520 --> 1:17:51.600 practicing their tails off. They're giving everything they can on 1:17:51.680 --> 1:17:53.280 the field. We just came up short. You saw a 1:17:53.320 --> 1:17:55.080 different gait. You saw guys that have played all year force. 1:17:55.120 --> 1:17:56.400 You said, guys that came in there and got their 1:17:56.400 --> 1:17:58.400 first opportunities, Guys that came in there on a one 1:17:58.439 --> 1:18:01.000 play notice, and guys kept fighting, and we thought we 1:18:01.040 --> 1:18:02.519 were gonna win the game, and we came up short. 1:18:02.560 --> 1:18:07.120 And it's it's a sickening feeling. We can't question the 1:18:07.120 --> 1:18:09.200 fight for one second, and at some point that's gonna 1:18:09.200 --> 1:18:09.720 pay off for us. 1:18:10.920 --> 1:18:14.600 So to your decision as to why Joe burrow. 1:18:16.560 --> 1:18:18.800 Him to start, we'll see. I'm not going to declare 1:18:18.800 --> 1:18:21.000 anything for Thursday, yet, I thought he put himself in 1:18:21.000 --> 1:18:23.040 a great position to be ready to play this weekend, 1:18:23.600 --> 1:18:25.439 and the best decision for us was was to wait 1:18:25.439 --> 1:18:28.879 a couple more days. How's tea, Zach, He's in concussion 1:18:28.920 --> 1:18:34.479 protocol t Taj Taj Brooks, Marker got a hamstring and 1:18:34.960 --> 1:18:38.479 Flacco had a issue with his finger on staring. 1:18:38.320 --> 1:18:40.360 Hand dislocated, popped back in. 1:18:40.960 --> 1:18:43.760 I don't remember that's what That's what it sounded like 1:18:43.840 --> 1:18:45.639 at the time. I can't remember what the trainer storm. 1:18:45.800 --> 1:18:48.360 How do you feel like he played overall to FO Yeah, 1:18:48.600 --> 1:18:50.640 I think he continues to just fight for us, man 1:18:50.680 --> 1:18:54.640 and give us a chance and him and him and 1:18:54.640 --> 1:18:56.439 a lot of other guys in all three phases today, 1:18:56.479 --> 1:18:57.840 I thought he just kept fighting for us and he 1:18:57.880 --> 1:18:59.040 gave us chance to at the end of the game. 1:18:59.120 --> 1:19:02.760 He plays through a lot of pa and just keeps 1:19:02.880 --> 1:19:04.519 keeps giving us a chance to win. We just we 1:19:04.640 --> 1:19:06.280 just haven't able to do as team yet. What did 1:19:06.280 --> 1:19:09.560 you see defensively from alcol They felt like crazy. I 1:19:09.640 --> 1:19:13.479 mean they a lot of different ways. They didn't didn't 1:19:13.479 --> 1:19:15.800 allow things to be easy for New England, kept finding 1:19:15.800 --> 1:19:17.559 them in the goal line stands. I think representing who 1:19:17.560 --> 1:19:19.880 these guys are right now, just just keep coming back. 1:19:20.000 --> 1:19:22.280 Got a penalty first and goal on the one. Kept 1:19:22.280 --> 1:19:26.439 fighting got to stop and there's a lot of trust, 1:19:26.600 --> 1:19:29.560 you know when they keep playing that way. You know, 1:19:29.640 --> 1:19:32.160 I factor then the fourth and one. You know, we 1:19:32.240 --> 1:19:33.760 didn't go for fourth and one kind of in our 1:19:33.760 --> 1:19:35.519 own field position. I think we're on the minus forty, 1:19:35.600 --> 1:19:37.400 and like we could pin them down in there and 1:19:37.400 --> 1:19:38.920 get a stop and get the ball back right where 1:19:38.960 --> 1:19:40.800 we just kicked it from. And so again, I thought 1:19:40.840 --> 1:19:42.320 those guys fought for us, got to turn over a 1:19:42.400 --> 1:19:45.040 pick six, gave us some moment ium early in the game, 1:19:45.680 --> 1:19:47.840 and just keep leaving those guys. They're gonna keep fighting 1:19:47.880 --> 1:19:49.719 for us and finding away. 1:19:50.439 --> 1:19:50.760 In the game. 1:19:50.800 --> 1:19:54.960 You're out there trying to come back. No Jamar, no Ti, no, 1:19:55.120 --> 1:19:55.760 no Joe Burrow. 1:19:55.840 --> 1:19:58.679 Obviously, I mean, how does that challenge as it change 1:19:58.720 --> 1:19:59.920 the way you approached the call? 1:20:00.360 --> 1:20:01.400 How you do a driveway? 1:20:01.600 --> 1:20:04.479 Yeah, just a lot of credit to those guys out there, 1:20:04.560 --> 1:20:07.519 because those personnel groupings aren't things that we've ever operated 1:20:07.560 --> 1:20:09.519 out of before. And so guys just understand what position 1:20:09.520 --> 1:20:13.280 they're playing, who's in the game, Concepts that most of 1:20:13.360 --> 1:20:15.080 those guys have not worked all week, at least at 1:20:15.080 --> 1:20:16.560 the position they were probably playing. At the end of 1:20:16.600 --> 1:20:18.840 the game, I thought the coaches did a great job 1:20:18.920 --> 1:20:21.280 on the sidelines, the position coaches getting trying to cover 1:20:21.360 --> 1:20:22.920 every base. I mean, we have to cover the last 1:20:22.920 --> 1:20:24.599 plays on the move there AND's had the thirty yard 1:20:24.640 --> 1:20:26.599 line with guys that none of those guys have been 1:20:26.600 --> 1:20:31.080 in that position before, and so you still felt we 1:20:31.120 --> 1:20:32.720 were going to find a way. I mean, he's he 1:20:32.880 --> 1:20:35.439 takes an alert to Niche for a touchdown, you know, 1:20:35.600 --> 1:20:37.639 and that's that's the kind of game it was where 1:20:37.680 --> 1:20:39.400 guys just kept stepping up and you kept believing that 1:20:39.560 --> 1:20:42.280 that eventually we're going to find a way to win it. 1:20:42.280 --> 1:20:43.920 And just came up Cobo short. 1:20:44.120 --> 1:20:46.120 Oh what do you feel like kept the passing gave him? 1:20:48.040 --> 1:20:49.559 I think you got to give credits a New England. 1:20:49.680 --> 1:20:52.240 First of all, they're a well coached group. They play hard, 1:20:52.360 --> 1:20:54.479 they keep trying to keep you off balanced as much 1:20:54.479 --> 1:20:57.280 as they can, so you got to give them credit. 1:20:57.600 --> 1:21:00.400 And you know, there was some opportunit. I felt like 1:21:00.400 --> 1:21:01.720 there was a drive there in the second quarter. Some 1:21:01.800 --> 1:21:04.479 penalties just just bid us where I felt like we're 1:21:04.479 --> 1:21:07.040 getting some good momentum and then ended up having a punt. 1:21:08.360 --> 1:21:10.200 So just I don't think there's one thing you can 1:21:10.240 --> 1:21:13.200 put your finger on that that limited a rhythm. I 1:21:13.280 --> 1:21:14.479 do think you got to give a New England a 1:21:14.479 --> 1:21:17.040 lot of credit for that, and we just got to 1:21:17.040 --> 1:21:19.120 find a way to do a better job on the 1:21:19.160 --> 1:21:19.519 other side. 1:21:19.560 --> 1:21:21.439 What you see out of Jayalen Davis today, his first 1:21:21.439 --> 1:21:22.280 game up since. 1:21:22.120 --> 1:21:25.360 The nothing that surprised me. That's JD. I mean, JD 1:21:25.439 --> 1:21:27.759 has had an unbelievable attitude every day he's been this building. 1:21:27.840 --> 1:21:29.920 He's a fan favorite in the locker room because he 1:21:30.040 --> 1:21:33.360 just competes. He loves football. He embraces whatever role there's 1:21:33.400 --> 1:21:35.360 a scout team player on the practice, whatever it is, 1:21:35.520 --> 1:21:38.040 and then it's his opportunity. Hasn't playing a game all 1:21:38.080 --> 1:21:40.599 season and goes out there and and fights like crazy, 1:21:40.720 --> 1:21:42.800 you know, and gets a sack and doing a great 1:21:42.880 --> 1:21:44.599 job fit in the run game, draws a holding penalty 1:21:44.640 --> 1:21:46.640 on a run play, you know. So there there's a 1:21:46.680 --> 1:21:50.160 lot to love about JD. And I thought he stepped 1:21:50.160 --> 1:21:53.280 in there and did a nice shout for us, the 1:21:53.320 --> 1:21:55.200 same thing I'm just saying, you know, these guys are 1:21:55.320 --> 1:21:59.080 they're they're working, it's important to them. They're not giving 1:21:59.160 --> 1:22:01.160 up on each other. They keep trying to find a 1:22:01.200 --> 1:22:03.240 way to win. Just been in one of those years 1:22:03.280 --> 1:22:05.280 where we just we haven't found a way at the 1:22:05.360 --> 1:22:07.519 end of the game, and that's been frustrating. It's frustrating 1:22:07.560 --> 1:22:12.080 for everybody. But guys aren't losing hope. It's important to 1:22:12.160 --> 1:22:14.920 everybody to just keep at this thing and find a 1:22:14.960 --> 1:22:16.639 way to get someonement hum here. And it's gonna start 1:22:16.640 --> 1:22:18.760 with one win, and we just haven't foind a way 1:22:18.800 --> 1:22:20.760 to get that in a while since that Thursday night game, 1:22:20.800 --> 1:22:24.479 and that's disappointing. He is frustrating, his heartbreaking. I feel 1:22:24.560 --> 1:22:26.200 for these guys because they're giving us everything that we 1:22:26.280 --> 1:22:27.720 ask him to give us during the course of the 1:22:27.760 --> 1:22:32.360 week and out there on Sunday, and she just got 1:22:32.479 --> 1:22:34.080 to find a way to win, so we can remember 1:22:34.120 --> 1:22:34.640 what that feels like. 1:22:34.720 --> 1:22:37.920 We about Gino still multiple times just for him to 1:22:38.520 --> 1:22:39.519 plan the way he did today. 1:22:39.960 --> 1:22:42.880 Really excited to see that. You know, it's especially the 1:22:42.920 --> 1:22:45.200 turnover early in the game. Finish it in the end zone, 1:22:45.400 --> 1:22:47.040 something we've been talking about like crazy. It's going to 1:22:47.080 --> 1:22:48.240 come to us. We got to finish it in the 1:22:48.320 --> 1:22:49.600 end zone. We got to finish through the back of 1:22:49.640 --> 1:22:51.719 the end line. All the things that we've been talking about. 1:22:52.280 --> 1:22:52.599 He did. 1:22:53.200 --> 1:22:55.280 And again, he's just he's one of those guys gonna 1:22:55.320 --> 1:22:58.560 keep fighting for us and and find a way to 1:22:58.600 --> 1:23:00.720 find a win here. At some point at three and eight, 1:23:00.800 --> 1:23:03.240 what are y'all building wellment him for to just find 1:23:03.280 --> 1:23:03.479 a win. 1:23:04.520 --> 1:23:06.679 What do you what have you appreciated the most about 1:23:06.680 --> 1:23:07.800 the way flackloes balot this. 1:23:07.880 --> 1:23:10.120 Maybe, I mean you just you can't put into words. 1:23:12.880 --> 1:23:14.720 You know, he didn't owe anything of this team. He 1:23:14.800 --> 1:23:16.840 just showed up, you know, and so he could take 1:23:16.840 --> 1:23:20.599 the easy way out and nurse and injury and say, 1:23:20.680 --> 1:23:22.800 you know, I need more rest and all that stuff, 1:23:22.840 --> 1:23:24.559 and he has. He just keeps walking on the field 1:23:24.600 --> 1:23:29.720 and pops his finger out and whatever happened there, I'm 1:23:30.280 --> 1:23:32.400 hurting your throwing hands. Not easy, you know, to go 1:23:32.479 --> 1:23:35.040 out there and push through that. And Chake's response, he 1:23:35.080 --> 1:23:37.400 goes out, there's one pass for fifteen yards with not 1:23:37.479 --> 1:23:38.240 a moment's notice. 1:23:38.280 --> 1:23:38.479 And so. 1:23:40.600 --> 1:23:42.960 Just a lot of examples the guys just just wanting 1:23:43.000 --> 1:23:44.320 to do whatever it takes to find a win. 1:23:45.240 --> 1:23:48.200 To call a pass there with Jake coming in, I'm 1:23:48.200 --> 1:23:48.920 gonna have to run. 1:23:48.840 --> 1:23:49.479 And grab his helmet. 1:23:49.600 --> 1:23:52.559 There wasn't there wasn't a lot of choice there. I mean, 1:23:52.600 --> 1:23:54.240 we were we were down two scores, I think at 1:23:54.240 --> 1:23:57.680 that moment when Jake did it, and Jake went in 1:23:57.720 --> 1:24:00.360 there and did a great job, bought some time, found 1:24:00.360 --> 1:24:04.040 the backside crosser big completion. Appreciate that. 1:24:06.400 --> 1:24:08.200 What's that You've seen a lot of big kicks from 1:24:08.240 --> 1:24:11.400 having right before halftime sixty three yard or a new 1:24:11.439 --> 1:24:14.400 franchise record your thoughts on how it come out. 1:24:15.760 --> 1:24:17.839 Yeah, he's in a great rhythm, has a lot of confidence. 1:24:17.920 --> 1:24:20.560 I think the operation has been really good, and so 1:24:20.680 --> 1:24:23.800 we have a lot of confidence in him. So it's 1:24:23.840 --> 1:24:27.640 not surprising, you know too, for him to take that 1:24:27.680 --> 1:24:31.400 opportunity that was the sixty three yards really didn't didn't 1:24:31.439 --> 1:24:34.439 bat an eye at it. I double checked it Darren, 1:24:34.520 --> 1:24:35.800 just to make sure we're in good shape there. He 1:24:36.000 --> 1:24:39.160 didn't hesitate, and then once we line up for the kick, 1:24:39.200 --> 1:24:41.160 you just assume what's going on. That's the point you're 1:24:41.160 --> 1:24:41.880 at with Evan right now. 1:24:44.160 --> 1:24:49.519 Yeah, so Mitch's ketch on Flimm said the impression of 1:24:49.600 --> 1:24:50.840 the catch, and then I guess they. 1:24:51.080 --> 1:24:51.600 Wanted to get the. 1:24:53.600 --> 1:24:54.640 That was the one right in front of me at 1:24:54.760 --> 1:24:58.760 our sideline. Yeah yeah, I mean just just you know, 1:24:58.960 --> 1:25:00.640 layered it right over the I think it was a 1:25:00.760 --> 1:25:04.120 nickel right there. Mitch did a great job securing it 1:25:04.600 --> 1:25:06.120 out of bounds. They didn't touch them, so they end 1:25:06.160 --> 1:25:07.640 up putting the time back on the clock. But it's 1:25:07.680 --> 1:25:09.320 it's a big moment for us, you know, fourth down 1:25:09.360 --> 1:25:12.600 and got to make a play and happy that it 1:25:12.640 --> 1:25:13.320 stepped up for us. 1:25:13.600 --> 1:25:15.720 What's probably the most frustrating thing about not being able 1:25:15.720 --> 1:25:18.640 to get more winds with the stint with flaccoing. 1:25:18.200 --> 1:25:21.519 That is the most frustrating thing. Losing. Losing is the worst. 1:25:21.800 --> 1:25:28.320 I mean it's the worst and you were accountable for it. 1:25:28.960 --> 1:25:31.720 We were. We make all the adjustments we've got to make, 1:25:31.800 --> 1:25:32.840 and then you got to turn the page and you 1:25:32.840 --> 1:25:34.680 gotta get ready for the next week. That's that's life 1:25:34.720 --> 1:25:36.560 in the NFL. We're gotta get ready for Thursday. So 1:25:37.040 --> 1:25:38.400 not a lot of time to sit here and. 1:25:41.120 --> 1:25:41.160 Do. 1:25:41.280 --> 1:25:43.040 We just got to move forward and we got to 1:25:43.080 --> 1:25:44.400 go back to work and I know these guys are 1:25:44.439 --> 1:25:47.120 gonna do that, and we got to do it great 1:25:47.240 --> 1:25:50.639 energy and belief that we're gonna walk on that field 1:25:50.680 --> 1:25:52.439 and go find a win on Thursday night on the road. 1:25:52.680 --> 1:25:54.479 And that's that's what we're gonna set forth to do 1:25:54.560 --> 1:25:55.640 and start tomorrow morning with. 1:25:55.720 --> 1:25:58.680 A situation when you know who's starting today. 1:25:59.160 --> 1:26:02.080 Flat do on front. You know on Friday was started. 1:26:02.120 --> 1:26:05.920 Exactly he going down when he did lay in the 1:26:06.000 --> 1:26:09.840 game Uh, we're obviously going a short week now and 1:26:10.160 --> 1:26:10.880 this pops up. 1:26:11.120 --> 1:26:13.800 That's big questions there in the last couple of minutes, 1:26:14.479 --> 1:26:18.519 is that I feel like reassurance just for the passing 1:26:18.560 --> 1:26:19.200 game overall. 1:26:21.040 --> 1:26:22.880 Yeah, I thought a lot of guys stepped up, you know, 1:26:23.040 --> 1:26:25.559 so again they they've shown that we should have confidence 1:26:25.600 --> 1:26:27.800 and then you know, and I think that's just what's 1:26:27.840 --> 1:26:29.360 been built up over there with with a lot of 1:26:29.360 --> 1:26:31.680 the skill players on offenses, as you put them in, 1:26:31.720 --> 1:26:33.160 you expect them to make a play, and then they 1:26:33.200 --> 1:26:34.040 keep showing up for us. 1:26:35.439 --> 1:26:37.800 With the lost today, I'm Tripp's question is surprised you. 1:26:37.840 --> 1:26:41.160 There'll be a lot of talk externally about why the 1:26:41.320 --> 1:26:45.280 organization feels that it's in the best interested Joe if 1:26:45.600 --> 1:26:48.200 you do decide to play him, communities to address what 1:26:48.400 --> 1:26:50.040 what you guys are factoring. 1:26:49.680 --> 1:26:50.599 In the pit. 1:26:50.760 --> 1:26:53.080 Yeah, winning is important. We want to win, and Joe 1:26:53.120 --> 1:26:55.360 gives us a great chance to win. And again Flacco 1:26:55.520 --> 1:26:58.599 has has given us every every opportunity. We haven't lost 1:26:58.600 --> 1:27:00.800 games because of Joe Flacco. He's gone out there and 1:27:00.840 --> 1:27:04.800 give us everything and he understands that. That being said, 1:27:04.800 --> 1:27:07.280 Walls will be excited to watch Joe Burrow. We all 1:27:07.280 --> 1:27:08.800 have Joe Brown now for six years and see the 1:27:08.840 --> 1:27:12.360 things he can do as well. And so again it's 1:27:12.479 --> 1:27:14.559 it's he's worked really hard to get himself back. He's 1:27:14.560 --> 1:27:17.360 a football player. He wants to play football. We want 1:27:17.360 --> 1:27:19.760 to win football games, and so that will lead into 1:27:19.800 --> 1:27:20.200 that decision. 1:27:20.640 --> 1:27:23.120 Zach Taylor after the game yesterday, Dave, if there were 1:27:23.280 --> 1:27:25.320 one play I'd like to go back and I could 1:27:25.400 --> 1:27:27.760 rewrite or recall. And it's been to bug me for 1:27:27.840 --> 1:27:30.960 a while. The third and one from the forty five, 1:27:31.800 --> 1:27:35.920 and they they have Joe Flacco throws leading to fourth 1:27:36.000 --> 1:27:37.719 and one. There was a delay a game. They wound 1:27:37.800 --> 1:27:40.559 up putting on a as soon as Joe Flacco dropped 1:27:40.600 --> 1:27:42.880 on third and one to throw, and I'm screaming, they're 1:27:42.880 --> 1:27:45.559 averaging five yards of carriages. Run the ball and move 1:27:45.640 --> 1:27:48.880 the chains to keep the drive going. And it's didn't 1:27:48.920 --> 1:27:53.320 happen just bumping that one, my man. I just as 1:27:53.360 --> 1:27:56.000 soon as he dropped back, I screamed, like it's slow motion. 1:27:56.920 --> 1:27:59.240 Yes, I am with you. I'm with you. 1:28:00.080 --> 1:28:02.080 Call me old school. The third and one run the 1:28:02.160 --> 1:28:03.000 damn football. 1:28:03.560 --> 1:28:06.080 I mean, you know, every once in a while, yeah, 1:28:06.120 --> 1:28:09.040 play action pass, you know, particularly get your running game established, 1:28:09.040 --> 1:28:11.240 your running game going, you know, trying to throw it 1:28:11.320 --> 1:28:13.839 over their heads and make a huge play, a difference 1:28:13.880 --> 1:28:16.360 maker in the course of the football game. But I mean, 1:28:16.760 --> 1:28:19.879 nine times out of ten third and one, run the football, 1:28:19.960 --> 1:28:22.559 get a fresh set of downs, do more damage, probe 1:28:22.560 --> 1:28:24.800 a little bit, find out what the defense is trying 1:28:24.840 --> 1:28:25.000 to do. 1:28:25.520 --> 1:28:30.320 I mean, and it's not like they were if they 1:28:30.360 --> 1:28:33.040 were struggling to run. Maybe you could debate it. And 1:28:33.160 --> 1:28:35.160 I know he believed in his defense at that point. 1:28:35.240 --> 1:28:37.160 He said, I know the defense is playing well, but 1:28:37.240 --> 1:28:39.880 your average in five yards a pop, and you just 1:28:40.040 --> 1:28:42.320 need one on third and one. 1:28:42.240 --> 1:28:45.880 And I'll guarantee you Mike Vrabel can count on one 1:28:45.960 --> 1:28:48.519 hand the number of times his team gave up five 1:28:48.560 --> 1:28:50.240 and a half yards of carry in a game for 1:28:50.800 --> 1:28:53.960 the entire football game. I mean, that's that's a heck 1:28:54.000 --> 1:28:57.760 of an accomplishment. And man, on third and one, do 1:28:57.920 --> 1:28:58.559 what you're doing. 1:28:58.520 --> 1:29:02.799 Well that game. I one more to wrap up the segment, 1:29:02.880 --> 1:29:05.559 what did you make after seeing the Patriots first hand? 1:29:05.800 --> 1:29:07.479 They're a team that there's a lot of debate, and 1:29:07.520 --> 1:29:09.760 actually they haven't played the toughest of schedules. I get that, 1:29:09.840 --> 1:29:11.519 but they've won nine in the row. They're ten and two, 1:29:12.160 --> 1:29:14.240 and you referenced last week, there's not a lot of 1:29:14.320 --> 1:29:17.200 like Pro Bowlers or big names that jump out. They 1:29:17.280 --> 1:29:19.920 almost feel like one of those, greater than the some 1:29:20.080 --> 1:29:23.200 of their parts and taking on the personality their coach 1:29:23.280 --> 1:29:25.679 and go and doing more than you would think they'd 1:29:25.680 --> 1:29:26.160 be able to do. 1:29:26.600 --> 1:29:28.280 I think you hit on it right there, Lance, I 1:29:28.360 --> 1:29:31.599 think they are taking on the personality of Mike Vrabel. 1:29:31.640 --> 1:29:35.720 Mike Vrabel was an extremely high football IQ player. I 1:29:35.800 --> 1:29:40.519 mean gifted physically, big, you know, broad shalden, big outside linebacker, 1:29:40.640 --> 1:29:42.760 the rush guy for Ohio State, and I mean he 1:29:42.880 --> 1:29:47.400 trans translated well to the National Football League and Bill Belichick. 1:29:47.520 --> 1:29:51.080 I'm sure Mike Vrabel even learned more football. I mean 1:29:51.160 --> 1:29:54.639 he got his master's and doctorate from from Bill Belichick 1:29:54.680 --> 1:29:56.960 playing for him for the number of years that he did. 1:29:57.400 --> 1:30:01.080 But you know, I think that that the New England 1:30:01.120 --> 1:30:04.439 Patriots are a viable playoff team. I mean they shoot there. 1:30:04.760 --> 1:30:06.960 They're the best team in the AFC right now, you know, 1:30:07.080 --> 1:30:08.479 so you've got to give them their props. You gotta 1:30:08.479 --> 1:30:10.800 give them their just due. And the Bengals hung right 1:30:10.880 --> 1:30:12.679 with them. I mean it wasn't like they didn't belong 1:30:12.760 --> 1:30:13.760 on that same football. Yeah. 1:30:14.720 --> 1:30:16.920 More ahead, We'll hear a little bit more from Joe 1:30:17.080 --> 1:30:19.880 Flacco up next as we continue on with Bengals line 1:30:19.880 --> 1:30:22.880 at the Bengals Radio Network at ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati 1:30:22.960 --> 1:30:30.840 Sports Station. We are rolling right along in this Monday 1:30:30.920 --> 1:30:33.439 night three big hours of Bengals on and the Bengals 1:30:33.560 --> 1:30:36.800 Radio Network and ESPN fifteen three Cincinnati Sports Station. 1:30:37.080 --> 1:30:39.479 Hey, Bengals fans, make sure to catch me and Dan 1:30:39.560 --> 1:30:42.559 Horde every Wednesday of this season for Bengals Game Plan 1:30:42.680 --> 1:30:44.880 presented by Bud Light on the air from six to 1:30:44.960 --> 1:30:47.439 eight pm on ESPN fifteen thirty. 1:30:47.520 --> 1:30:50.600 Here's more from Joe Flacco yesterday again one hundred and 1:30:50.680 --> 1:30:53.800 eighty three yards through the air, the touchdown, and the 1:30:54.439 --> 1:30:56.840 thoughts on yesterday and the thoughts on what might be 1:30:56.920 --> 1:30:59.720 ahead with the potential return of Joe Burrow on Thursday night. 1:30:59.840 --> 1:31:00.880 Here is Joe Flacco. 1:31:01.200 --> 1:31:02.640 I just want to follow up on what you were 1:31:02.720 --> 1:31:06.360 saying about how it's your job to get ready. Is 1:31:07.600 --> 1:31:10.000 it hard to deal with the situation you're going to 1:31:10.160 --> 1:31:12.040 for the next whether it's a few days or two 1:31:12.120 --> 1:31:14.559 leaves in the storyline, about what you joke, go back 1:31:14.920 --> 1:31:18.360 in that if you do end up being his backup 1:31:18.400 --> 1:31:19.560 whenever he comes. 1:31:19.320 --> 1:31:21.040 Like you didn't lose your job because of the. 1:31:21.160 --> 1:31:24.120 Results, saying like you're playing really well or or you're 1:31:24.160 --> 1:31:24.879 not a part. 1:31:24.720 --> 1:31:27.360 Like does it make it that much harder to accept? 1:31:27.439 --> 1:31:29.960 Or like what's this like for you? Behind the scenes? 1:31:31.960 --> 1:31:33.840 I think as a competitor, you're always want to be 1:31:33.880 --> 1:31:35.560 out there on the field. I mean, this is what 1:31:35.680 --> 1:31:37.719 I live to do, is go out in that field 1:31:37.760 --> 1:31:42.479 and play football. But at the same time, I feel 1:31:42.520 --> 1:31:46.160 really fortunate to have kind of found myself in this situation. 1:31:46.520 --> 1:31:48.200 As much as I would have loved to see us 1:31:48.280 --> 1:31:50.000 win games, I still have had a lot of fun 1:31:50.040 --> 1:31:53.840 here with these guys in the locker room. Going out 1:31:54.080 --> 1:31:57.280 lacing them up with these guys has been a lot 1:31:57.360 --> 1:32:01.080 of fun. And I've felt right home and have had 1:32:01.120 --> 1:32:07.599 a blast doing it. And I don't think I really 1:32:08.120 --> 1:32:12.080 am looking anything past that. You know, I get it, 1:32:14.040 --> 1:32:16.560 I get how certain feelings could be involved with this, 1:32:16.760 --> 1:32:18.920 but in this case, it's you know, it's easy for 1:32:19.040 --> 1:32:21.120 me to kind of put those aside and just look 1:32:21.160 --> 1:32:25.080 at the positives of the whole thing, and you know, 1:32:25.280 --> 1:32:28.479 and be excited for another teammate trying to work his 1:32:28.600 --> 1:32:33.400 way back. So it might sound like crap and like 1:32:33.479 --> 1:32:36.280 I'm lying, And yeah, there is a tough part of 1:32:36.360 --> 1:32:37.040 not being out there. 1:32:37.080 --> 1:32:37.760 There always is. 1:32:40.160 --> 1:32:41.519 But I feel like I've put my head down and 1:32:41.560 --> 1:32:45.680 worked hard the last however long it's been, and I've 1:32:45.720 --> 1:32:47.599 had a lot of fun with these guys, and it's 1:32:47.640 --> 1:32:55.880 always it's always, I don't know, it's just always, I 1:32:55.920 --> 1:32:56.200 don't know. 1:32:56.560 --> 1:32:59.280 I keep saying fun, but I want to say something else. 1:32:59.560 --> 1:33:01.320 But when you're in there with guys and you make 1:33:01.400 --> 1:33:03.240 relationships with them, and you're out there battling on the 1:33:03.280 --> 1:33:05.519 field with them and you can look each other in 1:33:05.560 --> 1:33:07.240 the eyes and know that you've been doing out the 1:33:07.320 --> 1:33:09.800 right way, then you really can't worry about the other things. 1:33:10.720 --> 1:33:13.000 You just are going out there playing and let the 1:33:13.080 --> 1:33:14.880 rest of it take care of yourself. Is that I 1:33:14.960 --> 1:33:15.880 think That's what I think. 1:33:15.920 --> 1:33:18.360 That's ultimately kind of the secret in terms of like 1:33:18.720 --> 1:33:21.880 playing football is like you want things right, you want 1:33:21.960 --> 1:33:25.880 things to happen, but there's got to be a piece 1:33:26.200 --> 1:33:27.599 that lets it happen. 1:33:28.160 --> 1:33:31.240 You know, you can't force things, and you can't try to. 1:33:32.520 --> 1:33:34.679 You know, you just can't. 1:33:35.280 --> 1:33:37.000 And I think as you get older and the more 1:33:37.040 --> 1:33:39.720 you play and the more you just experience everything, you 1:33:39.880 --> 1:33:43.360 realize that you know, you get you gain a little 1:33:43.360 --> 1:33:45.680 bit of perspective and you realize and then and then 1:33:45.800 --> 1:33:47.240 there's times in the moment where you still want to 1:33:47.280 --> 1:33:50.200 try to do too much or whatever it is, and 1:33:50.320 --> 1:33:54.040 worry about what's happening at the end. But I think 1:33:54.080 --> 1:33:55.640 the more you do it, you do find out that 1:33:55.720 --> 1:33:57.680 the secret is to just go out there and do 1:33:57.800 --> 1:33:59.280 what you love to do to the best of your 1:33:59.320 --> 1:34:01.680 ability and let the things fall in place. And I 1:34:01.760 --> 1:34:03.960 think if you get a collective group of guys doing that, 1:34:04.160 --> 1:34:05.840 then you have then you have what you want. 1:34:06.800 --> 1:34:08.840 Two quick things, just to circle back on the game 1:34:08.880 --> 1:34:11.519 real quick, is the lack of rhythm maybe affect how 1:34:11.560 --> 1:34:12.120 you see the field? 1:34:12.240 --> 1:34:14.400 Is that is that is there a correlationship probably how 1:34:14.439 --> 1:34:16.080 you saw today the rhythm. 1:34:18.040 --> 1:34:22.879 No, I mean it's it's you know, it's good defense 1:34:22.960 --> 1:34:25.160 and maybe not as good of offense as we would like. 1:34:25.280 --> 1:34:31.040 And that's what good teams do. Like even like today, 1:34:31.080 --> 1:34:33.679 it didn't feel like anything crazy, but it was harder 1:34:33.760 --> 1:34:36.439 because they just are good at what they do and 1:34:37.840 --> 1:34:40.360 they make it tough for you to complete underneath passes. 1:34:40.640 --> 1:34:42.120 You know, there's times where you drop the ball down 1:34:42.160 --> 1:34:44.519 underneath and you get twenty five yard games and stuff 1:34:44.560 --> 1:34:46.439 like that. And these guys, because they they're able to 1:34:46.520 --> 1:34:48.240 rally the ball and do things like that, they make it. 1:34:48.320 --> 1:34:49.840 They make those things hard. They're not going to give 1:34:49.840 --> 1:34:55.000 you anything, and listen, this is the type of games. 1:34:55.920 --> 1:34:57.240 This is the type of game it ends up being 1:34:57.960 --> 1:35:00.439 when you put when you go against good teams, it's 1:35:00.479 --> 1:35:02.240 twenty six to twenty and you have a chance to win. 1:35:04.120 --> 1:35:06.040 It's kind of how we felt like the game against 1:35:06.040 --> 1:35:09.479 Pittsburgh should have probably went last week, but we made mistakes. 1:35:10.680 --> 1:35:12.400 Obviously we did make a mistake in this game, but 1:35:12.479 --> 1:35:13.479 ultimately we didn't. 1:35:13.560 --> 1:35:15.720 We kept the game within striking distance and we just 1:35:15.760 --> 1:35:16.639 weren't able to get it done. 1:35:16.640 --> 1:35:18.760 Again, it's tefinitely going going back to the win, one 1:35:18.840 --> 1:35:20.600 questioning was going, what's it? 1:35:20.680 --> 1:35:21.840 What was it like kind of walking off? What was 1:35:21.920 --> 1:35:23.719 running through your mind as you walked off the field. 1:35:23.600 --> 1:35:25.360 At the end of that one? What were you thinking about? 1:35:26.200 --> 1:35:31.120 I don't know, the same thing you're probably always thinking 1:35:31.200 --> 1:35:33.519 when you know you come up a little short, you're 1:35:33.560 --> 1:35:37.360 just a little bit you know, you're thinking about what 1:35:37.400 --> 1:35:39.599 you could have done on the last couple of plays 1:35:39.640 --> 1:35:42.639 and can't wait to go look at it and maybe 1:35:42.680 --> 1:35:44.880 see what you could have done and beat yourself up 1:35:45.080 --> 1:35:45.920 about it a little bit. 1:35:47.800 --> 1:35:51.760 The same as always your feel like tomorrow compared to 1:35:53.000 --> 1:35:53.519 thirty one. 1:36:01.360 --> 1:36:03.200 I think playing quarterback, it's always week to week. 1:36:03.280 --> 1:36:05.120 Sometimes you get really beat up and sometimes you play 1:36:05.160 --> 1:36:08.880 really physical games and other times you don't. And I 1:36:09.040 --> 1:36:12.240 really don't think because I'm forty, I feel different waking up. 1:36:12.280 --> 1:36:14.479 I mean, everybody always says that you know, once you 1:36:14.560 --> 1:36:17.120 hit thirty or once you hit forty, wait till you 1:36:17.160 --> 1:36:20.960 get out of bed and this happens. Yeah, I have 1:36:21.040 --> 1:36:22.720 to stay on top of things more. But in terms 1:36:22.760 --> 1:36:25.599 of waking up and how my body, how my body reacts, 1:36:26.479 --> 1:36:29.200 I'm so much better at taking care of myself and 1:36:29.360 --> 1:36:32.679 like and actually doing the things to prepare your body 1:36:32.760 --> 1:36:34.680 for success than I was when I was twenty five 1:36:34.760 --> 1:36:38.320 years old. So I think the if there is any 1:36:38.400 --> 1:36:41.120 drop off at forty, it just it makes up that 1:36:41.200 --> 1:36:42.880 you're a little bit more aware of how of how 1:36:42.920 --> 1:36:43.479 to do things. 1:36:43.520 --> 1:36:45.840 So how often do you get to top your finger? 1:36:46.160 --> 1:36:47.639 Is that common when you have to do that mid 1:36:47.680 --> 1:36:48.400 game before or. 1:36:48.479 --> 1:36:51.360 Is that I've never I've never done that. I've never 1:36:51.439 --> 1:36:51.880 had to do it. 1:36:56.360 --> 1:36:57.360 I mean, I didn't feel like much. 1:36:57.400 --> 1:36:59.200 I mean I didn't know I did it until I looked. 1:36:59.000 --> 1:37:00.599 Down at it, and then I came over and Matt 1:37:00.680 --> 1:37:02.800 just popped it in, you know, popped it back into place, 1:37:02.880 --> 1:37:05.080 and then it was just like, Okay, I can throw. 1:37:05.520 --> 1:37:06.160 Yeah there you go. 1:37:06.520 --> 1:37:06.840 Serious? 1:37:06.840 --> 1:37:07.479 What that first throw? 1:37:07.479 --> 1:37:08.960 I was going to feel like after you popped it 1:37:09.040 --> 1:37:09.280 back in? 1:37:09.600 --> 1:37:10.000 Yeah, I was. 1:37:10.479 --> 1:37:11.840 I threw a couple of balls in the sideline and 1:37:11.960 --> 1:37:14.479 Jake did a good job completed the ball, and you know, 1:37:14.800 --> 1:37:15.400 but I didn't want. 1:37:15.280 --> 1:37:16.439 To let him have too much fun out there. 1:37:16.479 --> 1:37:19.560 So Flaco after the game, and I want to go 1:37:19.640 --> 1:37:21.400 back to something you said because I think it makes 1:37:21.439 --> 1:37:25.439 so much sense. In twenty twenty six, Joe Flacco will 1:37:25.439 --> 1:37:28.280 be forty one in January. Could there be a team 1:37:28.360 --> 1:37:31.880 that offers him a starting job? Maybe not likely. So 1:37:32.000 --> 1:37:35.080 if you're if you're Joe Flacco and you like being 1:37:35.200 --> 1:37:40.200 here and you could be the backup to Joe Burrow 1:37:40.240 --> 1:37:43.120 and make a nice amount of money in a system 1:37:43.160 --> 1:37:46.599 you're comfortable in. He'd be an awfully nice insurance policy 1:37:46.640 --> 1:37:49.160 for this football team to have as the backup quarterback. 1:37:48.840 --> 1:37:51.760 No question, man. I mean that whatever premium they're paying, 1:37:51.800 --> 1:37:55.680 it's worth. Yes, Joe Flacco as the backup quarterback. And 1:37:55.760 --> 1:37:57.920 I do think that he's got a lot of respect 1:37:58.000 --> 1:38:02.679 for for what Zach Taylor's mentality is from an offensive standpoint. 1:38:02.760 --> 1:38:06.679 I think he realizes that Zach Taylor is an offensive 1:38:06.760 --> 1:38:09.880 guy as such and understands the game. I think he 1:38:10.040 --> 1:38:12.479 likes Dan Pitcher. I think he likes all the offensive coaches. 1:38:12.520 --> 1:38:17.680 I think he thinks they're young, very exciting and intelligent 1:38:18.080 --> 1:38:21.360 guys to be around. So and I think he and 1:38:21.720 --> 1:38:26.320 Joe Burrow have right away established a bond that is 1:38:27.280 --> 1:38:31.280 is significant. I think Joe Flacco could do a lot 1:38:31.360 --> 1:38:33.200 worse than come back and be a member of the 1:38:33.280 --> 1:38:38.120 Cincinnati Bengals. Up next, Dylan Fairchild the subject of fantastic 1:38:38.240 --> 1:38:38.840 fun Facts. 1:38:38.880 --> 1:38:41.400 We love fun facts, just Dan Horde. We'll hear that 1:38:41.600 --> 1:38:44.360 next Bengals on in the Bengals Radio Network and ESPN 1:38:44.400 --> 1:38:53.960 fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. We continue on this Monday 1:38:54.040 --> 1:38:58.200 night Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network. Lance Bacaviister 1:38:58.520 --> 1:39:00.080 Dave Lapham. 1:39:00.080 --> 1:39:02.840 Last pay Court is proud to be the official hr, 1:39:03.000 --> 1:39:05.519 software provider of the Cincinnati Bengal. 1:39:05.640 --> 1:39:08.680 Each week we take a listen to Dan Hord's Fantastic 1:39:08.840 --> 1:39:10.920 Fun Facts, a chance to go behind the scenes, pull 1:39:10.960 --> 1:39:14.360 the curtain back and learn more about a Bengal player 1:39:14.400 --> 1:39:17.680 beyond just the player in him. And this week the 1:39:17.760 --> 1:39:22.120 subject the spotlight on Dylan Fairchild. Here is Fantastic Fun Facts. 1:39:23.200 --> 1:39:27.200 No fantastic fun facts with Dan Ord. 1:39:27.960 --> 1:39:30.840 Time for some fun facts with offensive lineman Dylan Fairchild 1:39:30.960 --> 1:39:35.040 from Coming, Georgia, about forty minutes north of Atlanta, the 1:39:35.120 --> 1:39:39.200 birthplace of country music stars Zach Brown, among others. Your 1:39:39.280 --> 1:39:41.800 excellence as a high school wrestler is a big part 1:39:41.840 --> 1:39:45.160 of your bio. It's a sport that's not for everybody. 1:39:45.560 --> 1:39:46.920 Why did you enjoy it so much? 1:39:47.520 --> 1:39:50.000 I just love the grit. You know, it's a gritty sport. 1:39:50.040 --> 1:39:52.200 It's a difficult thing to do. I didn't love it 1:39:52.240 --> 1:39:55.720 every day, but some of those days I remember, like I, 1:39:56.720 --> 1:39:59.880 you know, there were Sundays. Every Sunday my dad would 1:39:59.880 --> 1:40:03.080 take me to go to my gym and wrestle, and 1:40:03.760 --> 1:40:06.040 just I that was one of those days. We're growing up, 1:40:06.160 --> 1:40:08.240 like I didn't really want to go on Sunday, But 1:40:08.960 --> 1:40:11.519 now that I look back, I realized, like those sundays 1:40:11.560 --> 1:40:15.680 were obviously we're playing athletics on Sundays now, so you know, 1:40:15.920 --> 1:40:18.200 like it. I think that kind of just like put 1:40:18.280 --> 1:40:20.840 discipline into me even more, because you know, there's nothing 1:40:20.880 --> 1:40:23.000 better than just sitting at home chilling on Sunday, but 1:40:23.560 --> 1:40:26.840 when you're over there grinding and stuff like it just 1:40:26.920 --> 1:40:29.240 really put me, put some core values in my in 1:40:29.320 --> 1:40:31.960 my brain and in my body, and just you know, 1:40:32.200 --> 1:40:33.719 helped me develop as a person the most. 1:40:34.400 --> 1:40:36.960 You were an undefeated state champion as a junior and 1:40:37.240 --> 1:40:40.000 as a senior. What was your fastest pin? 1:40:40.880 --> 1:40:42.560 Oh gosh, I don't even know. I think it was 1:40:42.640 --> 1:40:46.920 like four seconds. This guy like he just rolled over. 1:40:47.080 --> 1:40:48.280 I was like, are you serious? 1:40:49.400 --> 1:40:50.160 No, it was it was. 1:40:50.479 --> 1:40:51.600 It was pretty ridiculous. 1:40:51.640 --> 1:40:51.880 I was. 1:40:53.040 --> 1:40:53.719 I was shocked. 1:40:53.760 --> 1:40:56.439 I didn't even like he just immediately shook hands and 1:40:56.720 --> 1:40:59.879 basically laid down. I was like, Wow, this is crazy. 1:41:00.760 --> 1:41:03.400 Be nice if defensive lineman did that, No, that'd be great. 1:41:04.320 --> 1:41:05.040 He's so great. 1:41:05.720 --> 1:41:08.320 On the flip side, did anybody give you a really 1:41:08.360 --> 1:41:10.400 good match in those last two years? 1:41:10.640 --> 1:41:10.760 Oh? 1:41:10.880 --> 1:41:12.920 Absolutely, there was a couple of great guys. There's a 1:41:13.000 --> 1:41:16.080 kid from Central I ends up forgetting his name central Verscyth. 1:41:16.600 --> 1:41:19.160 It's a really tough kid, like impossible to try to 1:41:19.200 --> 1:41:23.160 turn and pin. My hardest match ever was a kid 1:41:23.240 --> 1:41:27.360 named Tamari Fox. He went to un C North Carolina 1:41:27.520 --> 1:41:30.680 and played I believe DN there and it was just 1:41:30.760 --> 1:41:33.640 a stud athlete like he gave me, by far, the 1:41:33.680 --> 1:41:37.679 hardest match I remember walking away from. I ended up losing. 1:41:37.800 --> 1:41:40.920 I walked away and I wasn't even upset because I 1:41:41.000 --> 1:41:43.960 just I gave everything I had. I threw up profusely 1:41:44.000 --> 1:41:48.000 in the bathroom and was like, I knew I emptied 1:41:48.000 --> 1:41:50.960 the tank. So that was by far, Like that was 1:41:51.000 --> 1:41:55.240 one of my most thrilling matches, even though I lost, 1:41:55.400 --> 1:41:58.479 So it was just fun. Sounds like something you grew from. 1:41:58.880 --> 1:42:02.080 Absolutely Yeah, No, I knew, like I've been training for 1:42:02.160 --> 1:42:04.320 him for months and months and months at a time. 1:42:06.000 --> 1:42:07.880 And after the match, I mean I was gonna be 1:42:07.960 --> 1:42:10.800 so I pre pre match and pre tournament. It was 1:42:10.880 --> 1:42:12.400 a state tournament, so I was like, I wanted to 1:42:12.439 --> 1:42:15.080 win really bad, and I thought I'd be really upset, 1:42:15.120 --> 1:42:17.519 but I wasn't because I knew like I had given 1:42:17.640 --> 1:42:20.800 everything and I learned a lesson that day, Like when 1:42:20.800 --> 1:42:23.240 you give everything you've got, like it's everything you got, 1:42:23.439 --> 1:42:26.280 you know, so win or lose, you at least can 1:42:26.360 --> 1:42:29.320 go to sleep knowing everything you gave everything you had 1:42:29.400 --> 1:42:32.000 to try to get a win, you know that day. 1:42:32.080 --> 1:42:34.080 So sometimes it just doesn't turn out in your favor. 1:42:34.840 --> 1:42:37.720 We're chatting a Dylan Fairchild. You're from Georgia and you 1:42:37.800 --> 1:42:40.320 went to Georgia. You played at the University of Was 1:42:40.400 --> 1:42:41.600 that the dream growing up? 1:42:41.840 --> 1:42:45.400 I think so? Yeah, I think so. I knew I honestly, like, 1:42:45.479 --> 1:42:47.080 I didn't know what I was gonna do. I thought 1:42:47.120 --> 1:42:48.640 I was going to wrestle for a long time. Then 1:42:48.680 --> 1:42:50.559 I thought I was gonna play football, Then I thought 1:42:50.560 --> 1:42:52.080 I was gonna wrestle. Like I was kind of back 1:42:52.120 --> 1:42:54.400 and forth. But as always a Georgia fan. I was 1:42:54.439 --> 1:42:57.920 always watching those national championships when they were in it, 1:42:58.160 --> 1:43:01.680 and just somehow it pulls through. I'm not gonna I'm 1:43:01.720 --> 1:43:05.200 not gonna talk about it, but no, but I was 1:43:05.280 --> 1:43:07.920 definitely a Georgia fan my whole life. My dad raised 1:43:07.960 --> 1:43:10.120 me a Georgia fan. We always pulled for the dogs, 1:43:10.160 --> 1:43:12.320 and I just knew that was the place to go. 1:43:12.720 --> 1:43:12.880 You know. 1:43:12.960 --> 1:43:15.600 It was the hardest place I could possibly go to 1:43:15.920 --> 1:43:18.600 other than one more and I'm not gonna mention it 1:43:18.840 --> 1:43:23.280 happens to be our neighbor. But you know, those two 1:43:23.360 --> 1:43:26.040 programs are by far the best programs you know at 1:43:26.080 --> 1:43:29.640 the time, and we're the toughest programs, had the best recruits. 1:43:29.200 --> 1:43:29.479 And so. 1:43:31.479 --> 1:43:32.760 But it was a no brainer for me. If I 1:43:32.800 --> 1:43:34.519 was gonna challenge myself, that's the place to do it. 1:43:35.200 --> 1:43:38.120 We learned from your college teammate of Marius Mims, that 1:43:38.280 --> 1:43:42.559 your nickname at Georgia was Pickle. What is the origin 1:43:42.760 --> 1:43:44.599 story of the pickle nickname? 1:43:44.760 --> 1:43:47.200 Mimmes was the one who started it. I don't even know. 1:43:47.360 --> 1:43:51.320 I think I honestly couldn't tell you. I have no idea. 1:43:52.160 --> 1:43:54.160 I think Memes this one day said it and it 1:43:54.360 --> 1:43:57.479 just stuck, and then all the boys, all the guys 1:43:57.560 --> 1:44:00.280 started calling calling me Pickle, and it just we just 1:44:00.320 --> 1:44:01.439 wrote it out from there on. 1:44:01.720 --> 1:44:02.280 And that was it. 1:44:02.800 --> 1:44:05.200 Since Mimes is in the building here, has that nickname 1:44:05.479 --> 1:44:06.920 migrated to Cincinnati. 1:44:07.280 --> 1:44:09.240 It has with Memes. Yeah, I think I'll always be 1:44:09.280 --> 1:44:11.640 Pickled to Memes. But I don't think some of these 1:44:11.680 --> 1:44:12.920 older guys are going to buy into that. 1:44:14.520 --> 1:44:17.439 You're a twenty two year old rookie and a married man. 1:44:17.560 --> 1:44:19.960 You got married about a month before the NFL draft. 1:44:20.200 --> 1:44:22.360 Why did you and Elizabeth decide to get married at 1:44:22.400 --> 1:44:23.200 such an early age. 1:44:24.000 --> 1:44:26.600 I think it's just the way I grew up. My 1:44:26.760 --> 1:44:31.120 parents were divorced, and I just I love God and 1:44:31.320 --> 1:44:34.000 I love her, and I knew that she has led 1:44:34.080 --> 1:44:38.360 me to success in ways that you know, it's hard 1:44:38.400 --> 1:44:41.880 for me to you know, reciprocate, and like she's just 1:44:42.000 --> 1:44:44.439 given me a piece to be able to come here 1:44:44.560 --> 1:44:47.160 every single day and do my job and fully focus 1:44:47.240 --> 1:44:50.040 on my job. And that's really what I want, you know. 1:44:50.200 --> 1:44:52.560 And I love her the most out of any you know, 1:44:53.120 --> 1:44:56.120 anything and anyone other than the Lord above. And I 1:44:56.200 --> 1:44:59.160 knew that we were going to pursue, continue to pursue God, 1:44:59.200 --> 1:45:01.680 and continue to pursu to each other. So there was 1:45:02.240 --> 1:45:04.640 really no questions, you know, there was just that The 1:45:04.680 --> 1:45:08.280 answer was we wanted to get married, and it was quick. 1:45:08.360 --> 1:45:11.320 It was a free wedding, so we actually didn't go 1:45:11.520 --> 1:45:14.880 like we didn't e lope, but it wasn't like a 1:45:14.960 --> 1:45:17.160 full wedding, so it was It's pretty cool. 1:45:17.439 --> 1:45:17.880 Yeah, it was. 1:45:18.160 --> 1:45:20.040 I'm glad that we did it. She's glad we did it, 1:45:20.840 --> 1:45:22.240 and I wouldn't want it any other way. 1:45:22.960 --> 1:45:25.439 We're chatting with Dylan Fairchild. So a month after that, 1:45:25.640 --> 1:45:27.800 really big day came the other one when you were 1:45:27.840 --> 1:45:29.800 selected in the third round by the Bengals in this 1:45:29.960 --> 1:45:33.680 year's draft. Describe that entire day. I know, it can 1:45:33.760 --> 1:45:36.320 be really stressful leading up to getting the phone call 1:45:36.360 --> 1:45:37.120 from Zach Taylor. 1:45:37.280 --> 1:45:38.719 No, it was extremely stressful. 1:45:38.880 --> 1:45:39.120 I was. 1:45:39.280 --> 1:45:41.680 I was really The third round was where we were 1:45:41.760 --> 1:45:45.400 helping me, my agent, just my whole family. You know, 1:45:45.520 --> 1:45:47.639 obviously you want to continue to do better and better, 1:45:47.720 --> 1:45:50.240 but you know, that was where we had hopefully predicted 1:45:50.280 --> 1:45:52.519 where I would go, and I did not know it 1:45:52.520 --> 1:45:56.280 would be at Cincinnati. I had no idea. This was 1:45:56.360 --> 1:45:58.000 one of the last places I had on my mind 1:45:58.040 --> 1:45:59.600 of where I thought I would be too. I just 1:46:00.600 --> 1:46:02.280 we had a couple of meetings, but it just wasn't, 1:46:02.320 --> 1:46:05.760 you know, like it wasn't just it wasn't what I thought, 1:46:05.880 --> 1:46:09.160 you know, And so there were some picks, you know, 1:46:09.360 --> 1:46:11.760 at some times where they slipped by and I was like, oh, 1:46:12.000 --> 1:46:14.840 you know, we may be waiting another day, and then 1:46:15.479 --> 1:46:17.720 my friend started ringing, and it just the whole day, 1:46:17.720 --> 1:46:20.160 it was just like that was probably the most stressed 1:46:20.160 --> 1:46:22.040 out I think I've ever been, because there was nothing, 1:46:22.920 --> 1:46:25.280 nothing I could do. Nothing's in your control, you know, 1:46:25.520 --> 1:46:28.280 like it's all in God's hands, it's all in the 1:46:28.400 --> 1:46:31.479 coach's hands, in the in the owner's hands. So there's 1:46:31.560 --> 1:46:33.160 nothing that you can really do about it besides just 1:46:33.200 --> 1:46:35.719 sit and wait. And that feeling is kind of scary, 1:46:35.920 --> 1:46:38.320 you know, you just sitting there waiting to get a 1:46:38.360 --> 1:46:41.320 phone call. But and when I did, I I couldn't 1:46:41.320 --> 1:46:43.160 even believe it. Like I just answered the phone and 1:46:43.320 --> 1:46:46.400 I felt so robotic. I was like hello, you know, 1:46:46.600 --> 1:46:49.559 and so it was it was really a huge blessing, 1:46:49.640 --> 1:46:52.280 and like I just, you know, I was so shocked 1:46:52.320 --> 1:46:54.439 and just couldn't believe it. And I was just immediately 1:46:54.560 --> 1:46:57.000 so blessed. And you know, you're nervous, is you don't, 1:46:57.080 --> 1:47:00.720 you know, you'd love to be anywhere on any NFL team, 1:47:00.800 --> 1:47:03.120 But it's scary, you know, growing up in Georgia. Going 1:47:03.160 --> 1:47:07.960 to Georgia, you could move literally completely across the entire country, 1:47:08.920 --> 1:47:11.960 coast to coast. So it's really cool being like I'm 1:47:12.040 --> 1:47:13.960 still on the East coast, just being close to home, 1:47:14.160 --> 1:47:15.800 like it's a seven hour drive, which is and I 1:47:15.880 --> 1:47:18.080 love the drive too, so it was really awesome to 1:47:18.280 --> 1:47:21.400 just it's a huge blessing, you know, it was immediate blessing. 1:47:21.560 --> 1:47:23.400 Just my whole family and my mom started crying. It 1:47:23.520 --> 1:47:24.799 was awesome. It was awesome. 1:47:25.240 --> 1:47:27.880 We're having this visit about midway through your rookie year. 1:47:27.960 --> 1:47:30.439 How would you describe your first NFL season to day? 1:47:31.479 --> 1:47:33.120 I'm just trying to be a sponge, you know, and 1:47:33.240 --> 1:47:35.920 just absorb, absorb, absorb all the information and knowledge I 1:47:36.000 --> 1:47:38.360 can and then on Sunday, just letting it fly, you know, 1:47:38.600 --> 1:47:41.800 just letting it go. Treating every day as if I 1:47:41.880 --> 1:47:43.559 have nothing to lose, you know, and that's the only 1:47:43.640 --> 1:47:45.960 way I know how to do it, and just going 1:47:46.560 --> 1:47:49.960 you know, the balls of the wall. There's no other 1:47:50.000 --> 1:47:52.840 way to put it. It's just hard every day, you know, 1:47:53.000 --> 1:47:56.800 just go hard every day. And yeah, that's really all 1:47:56.840 --> 1:47:58.400 I It's all I do is I try to look 1:47:58.439 --> 1:48:00.800 forward every single day all right. 1:48:00.880 --> 1:48:03.720 Time for a few wild card topics now with Dylan Fairchild, 1:48:03.920 --> 1:48:07.519 who is your all time favorite athlete in any sport? 1:48:08.280 --> 1:48:11.600 And why, I'd probably have to say Nate Dia is 1:48:11.640 --> 1:48:14.280 my favorite. Yeah, you know, I don't I don't know 1:48:14.320 --> 1:48:18.000 if you know, is that like a UFC guy fighter? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:48:18.240 --> 1:48:22.360 he uh, he's just a dog like he's not He's 1:48:22.400 --> 1:48:26.280 just one of those guys. It's like he doesn't ever stop, 1:48:26.479 --> 1:48:29.200 Like he just doesn't quit ever. You know, they say 1:48:29.280 --> 1:48:31.280 Nate Diez doesn't lose fights. He just runs out of time, 1:48:31.560 --> 1:48:33.880 you know. Like he he's just one of those guys 1:48:33.920 --> 1:48:36.400 that nobody wants to fight because he's just a dog, 1:48:36.640 --> 1:48:39.679 like he has no inch of care in his body 1:48:39.760 --> 1:48:41.240 and he's willing to put it all out there on 1:48:41.320 --> 1:48:44.120 the line every time. And I feel the same way. 1:48:44.280 --> 1:48:46.000 You know, I don't think i'd do what he does. 1:48:46.200 --> 1:48:48.439 But he's a little he's just a couple of steps 1:48:48.479 --> 1:48:51.920 above us. But he's probably my favorite guy that I 1:48:52.000 --> 1:48:54.960 look to. Is just like inspiration. Like when things don't 1:48:55.000 --> 1:48:57.920 go well, Like he's a nasty dude, you know, and 1:48:58.560 --> 1:49:01.200 things don't go well for him, you know, it might 1:49:01.240 --> 1:49:02.840 be vulgar, but he gives him the middle finger and 1:49:02.960 --> 1:49:05.800 like he just keeps going, you know. And that's that's 1:49:05.800 --> 1:49:07.400 the way my father raised me. That's the way that 1:49:07.479 --> 1:49:09.439 I've I've been you know, taught my whole life. And 1:49:10.880 --> 1:49:13.120 I just love he embodies that. So he's probably my 1:49:13.200 --> 1:49:14.360 favorite for sure. 1:49:15.080 --> 1:49:17.760 Final fun fact for Dylan Fairchild. This one's a little 1:49:17.800 --> 1:49:22.519 bit deep. If you could meet anybody in history, living 1:49:22.760 --> 1:49:24.800 or deceased, who would that person be? 1:49:25.360 --> 1:49:29.280 I go Jesus, Absolutely, yeah, no, I would. I'd love 1:49:29.320 --> 1:49:32.120 to meet Jesus. Hopefully That's where I'm going, you know, 1:49:32.439 --> 1:49:36.280 one day. But that was absolutely who I would go 1:49:36.400 --> 1:49:37.200 to meet for sure. 1:49:37.520 --> 1:49:37.680 You know. 1:49:37.720 --> 1:49:40.799 I try to root myself in that and just ground 1:49:40.840 --> 1:49:44.360 myself no matter what happens, good or bad, and just 1:49:44.479 --> 1:49:47.519 live live that life, you know, and I do a 1:49:47.560 --> 1:49:49.560 better job talking about it than being about it, you know, 1:49:49.800 --> 1:49:52.960 just being honest with you and fall short like everybody else. 1:49:54.280 --> 1:49:55.920 But again, like I just try to live with that 1:49:56.240 --> 1:49:58.400 that type of love you know, in my heart and 1:49:59.240 --> 1:50:02.120 just love and forget people. And that's just again like 1:50:02.360 --> 1:50:04.600 my wife does an amazing job of just bringing me 1:50:04.720 --> 1:50:08.519 back to that base level every day. 1:50:08.840 --> 1:50:09.040 You know. 1:50:09.240 --> 1:50:12.960 She's absolutely the reason that I was brought back to 1:50:13.000 --> 1:50:16.160 the Lord and she's my rock. And so yeah, no 1:50:16.280 --> 1:50:17.760 it it'd be Jesus for sure. 1:50:18.520 --> 1:50:19.320 This has been fun. 1:50:19.600 --> 1:50:21.519 Really appreciate your time, best of luck the rest of 1:50:21.560 --> 1:50:21.800 the year. 1:50:21.880 --> 1:50:22.760 Fair Thank you so much. 1:50:23.040 --> 1:50:27.639 Dylan Fairchild with Dan Horde. More of that and more 1:50:28.040 --> 1:50:31.439 Bengals stuff on the Bengals Booth podcast if you want 1:50:31.479 --> 1:50:34.120 to catch up there. Up next, let's talk about those 1:50:34.160 --> 1:50:36.439 Baltimore Ravens. Next in the sights of the Bengals on 1:50:36.600 --> 1:50:39.479 Thursday night, as we roll on with Bengals Line on 1:50:39.479 --> 1:50:43.639 the Bengals Radio Network and ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station. 1:50:52.040 --> 1:50:54.240 We are a cruise and right along this Monday night 1:50:54.280 --> 1:50:57.120 of Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network and ESPN 1:50:57.200 --> 1:50:59.920 fifteen thirty. Dave, always time for our final card. 1:50:59.800 --> 1:51:03.200 Of the absolutely Lance and as we all know, Alta 1:51:03.280 --> 1:51:06.000 Fiber is the official Wi Fi and Internet provider of 1:51:06.080 --> 1:51:09.560 the Bengals and Greater Cincinnati's fastest Internet with up to 1:51:09.640 --> 1:51:11.120 two gig symmetrical speeds. 1:51:11.120 --> 1:51:14.679 All right, Next up those Baltimore Ravens. Thursday night in Baltimore, 1:51:14.840 --> 1:51:18.479 Ravens started one in five. They're now six and five. 1:51:18.680 --> 1:51:22.400 They've won five straight, beat the Jets yesterday twenty three 1:51:22.479 --> 1:51:25.559 to ten, and Dave, the thing that jumps out immediately 1:51:25.640 --> 1:51:28.439 about what they have done during this turnaround. They're playing 1:51:28.520 --> 1:51:31.680 much better defense. In their first five games, they gave 1:51:31.760 --> 1:51:34.639 up one hundred and seventy seven points. Yeah, the most 1:51:34.720 --> 1:51:37.439 in a five game sequence in the history of the franchise. 1:51:37.479 --> 1:51:39.960 They were given up thirty five points a game. But 1:51:40.080 --> 1:51:44.759 in the last six they've held each opponent under twenty points. 1:51:44.880 --> 1:51:50.840 They've allowed seventeen, sixteen, six, nineteen, sixteen, fifteen. They have 1:51:50.920 --> 1:51:53.040 gotten that defense in order. 1:51:53.280 --> 1:51:55.719 They certainly have. And as you said, in the beginning 1:51:55.760 --> 1:51:58.240 of the season, they gave forty one to Buffalo, Oh, 1:51:58.640 --> 1:52:01.280 they gave up forty one to Cleveland. He give up 1:52:01.320 --> 1:52:04.080 thirty eight to Detroit, thirty seven of Kansas City, forty 1:52:04.160 --> 1:52:07.679 forty Houston Man. The Rams game was seventeen to three, 1:52:07.920 --> 1:52:10.519 and then they went on their five game They lost 1:52:10.560 --> 1:52:12.280 that Rams game, then they went on their five game 1:52:12.479 --> 1:52:17.360 winning streak. So, I mean, the defense has really turned 1:52:17.400 --> 1:52:22.479 it around and they're playing much like the defense that 1:52:24.120 --> 1:52:28.000 John Harbaugh was expecting. And they've they've got players. I mean, 1:52:28.080 --> 1:52:30.320 there's there's no question about it. You look at every 1:52:31.600 --> 1:52:33.920 level or layer of the of the defense. They've they've 1:52:33.960 --> 1:52:38.040 got players. Brent Urban is a good defensive end, good 1:52:38.120 --> 1:52:41.280 rush guy. Rookie Mike Green is making some noise, Rokwan 1:52:41.439 --> 1:52:45.160 Smith at middle linebacker, Kyle van Noy at a strong 1:52:45.240 --> 1:52:49.519 side outside backer, Kyle Hamilton at the strong safety position 1:52:49.720 --> 1:52:54.240 is a crazy athlete, Marlon Humphrey at corner. They've got 1:52:54.280 --> 1:52:57.240 players on that defensive football team and it is amazing 1:52:57.360 --> 1:52:59.960 to me that they were given up thirty five games. Yeah, 1:53:00.600 --> 1:53:02.840 for the first six games of the season. It's nuts. 1:53:03.120 --> 1:53:05.160 On the other side of Lamar Jackson has dealt with 1:53:05.439 --> 1:53:08.040 a lot of injuries throughout the season. They're they're winning 1:53:08.160 --> 1:53:10.640 with the defense and a run game. I saw a 1:53:10.720 --> 1:53:14.000 note this morning. Lamar has gone three straight games without 1:53:14.120 --> 1:53:16.840 throwing for two hundred yards, first time that's happened in 1:53:16.920 --> 1:53:19.200 five years. And he's gone back to back games without 1:53:19.200 --> 1:53:22.479 throwing a touchdown, the first time that's happened in six years. 1:53:22.680 --> 1:53:24.720 But when you have somebody like Derreck Henry, you can 1:53:24.800 --> 1:53:27.360 tote the ball at four point seven yards at carry 1:53:27.400 --> 1:53:31.120 and is really tough to tackle, you've you've got a chance. 1:53:31.200 --> 1:53:34.400 And he's he's rolling like, oh, he never gets old. 1:53:34.479 --> 1:53:36.400 It seems he just keeps rolling right along. 1:53:36.760 --> 1:53:37.000 It is. 1:53:37.120 --> 1:53:40.240 It's incredible. And the guy his size, he is a 1:53:40.400 --> 1:53:43.680 physical specimen, there's no question about it. And they're one 1:53:43.720 --> 1:53:45.800 of the only teams in the NFL that still run 1:53:45.880 --> 1:53:50.000 a true fullback offensively, and Patrick Ricard who can. He's 1:53:50.120 --> 1:53:53.000 very versatile, he can play both ways. He gets them 1:53:53.040 --> 1:53:58.320 some defensive snaps at defensive tackle, so he's he's an 1:53:58.439 --> 1:54:02.920 unbelievable football player. Mark Andrews at tight end is a force. 1:54:03.080 --> 1:54:06.479 You know, they say Flowers at the receiver position can 1:54:06.840 --> 1:54:09.240 can take it deep for shot Bateman or rookie is 1:54:09.320 --> 1:54:12.680 playing well for them. But I do think I think 1:54:12.760 --> 1:54:15.599 it's gonna come down to who runs the ball best 1:54:16.080 --> 1:54:18.760 in this football game. I think both defenses are going 1:54:18.800 --> 1:54:20.680 to really try to, you know, stack the line of 1:54:20.720 --> 1:54:23.320 scrimmage to stop the running game. And who's going to 1:54:23.360 --> 1:54:24.479 be able to solve that equation? 1:54:24.720 --> 1:54:26.880 We were talking off air. I looked at the weather 1:54:27.000 --> 1:54:30.400 forecast this morning for Thursday in Baltimore. I saw at 1:54:30.560 --> 1:54:34.080 night thirty two degrees windy with gusting wins up to 1:54:34.200 --> 1:54:36.760 twenty five miles an hour. If that doesn't screen me 1:54:36.840 --> 1:54:37.680 better run the football. 1:54:37.720 --> 1:54:40.440 I don't know what does. Yeah, absolutely, particularly that win, 1:54:40.600 --> 1:54:43.760 you know, I mean thirty two that's chilli. Yeah. But players, 1:54:43.840 --> 1:54:47.960 you know, the players can handle freezing temperature, literally freezing 1:54:47.960 --> 1:54:50.840 at thirty two degrees on the thermometer. But man that 1:54:51.040 --> 1:54:53.320 win twenty five miles an hour. That's a stiff Reezon 1:54:53.360 --> 1:54:55.960 now that will that'll move the football around on you 1:54:56.000 --> 1:54:56.720 a little bit. Boy. 1:54:56.760 --> 1:55:00.360 In the two names you mentioned offensively, Derrick Henry, we've 1:55:00.400 --> 1:55:03.440 mentioned Bengals gotta tackle better. He better tackle Derek Henry 1:55:03.640 --> 1:55:06.520 out in trouble covering the tight end. Better cover Andrews, 1:55:06.600 --> 1:55:10.040 who haves He has five touchdowns, He's second on the 1:55:10.040 --> 1:55:11.960 team in touchdowns this year, to go with his thirty 1:55:12.000 --> 1:55:12.640 three catches. 1:55:12.800 --> 1:55:15.720 And he's been a Bengal killer. Yes, he has hurt 1:55:15.800 --> 1:55:19.680 the Bengals multiple times. I mean, I will tell you 1:55:19.800 --> 1:55:26.080 that there's no question Marvin lewis just. I mean, he 1:55:26.480 --> 1:55:30.200 respected the Baltimore Ravens. But the guy that hurt him 1:55:30.440 --> 1:55:33.440 and gave him tremendous headaches of Mark Andrews. 1:55:33.840 --> 1:55:37.240 Let's take our final time out. When we continue, Dave tomorrow. 1:55:37.320 --> 1:55:40.200 Could he a significant day for our guy? Ken Anderson 1:55:40.480 --> 1:55:43.760 is the next step in the cutdown to the Hall 1:55:43.760 --> 1:55:46.560 of Fame. Let's talk about that as we continue. He's 1:55:46.640 --> 1:55:49.080 Dave Lapham, I'm Lance, but callister. It's Bengals on on 1:55:49.080 --> 1:55:53.080 the Bengals Radio Network at ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station. 1:55:58.800 --> 1:56:01.440 All right, down there we go, final segment of the 1:56:01.520 --> 1:56:03.080 night on the show We Call Bengals on and the 1:56:03.080 --> 1:56:06.640 Bengals Radio Network in ESPN fifteen thirty on Lance Bacallister, 1:56:06.800 --> 1:56:10.320 He is Dave Lapham and Tomorrow a significant day. Nine 1:56:10.400 --> 1:56:13.800 individuals have reached the semi finalist stage in the seniors 1:56:13.920 --> 1:56:16.400 category for the Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of 1:56:16.440 --> 1:56:19.000 twenty twenty six. They started at one hundred and eighty 1:56:19.080 --> 1:56:22.000 two nominees. They're down to nine semi finalists. 1:56:22.040 --> 1:56:22.240 Wow. 1:56:22.400 --> 1:56:26.080 The Blue Ribbon Committee meets tomorrow Tuesday to determine three 1:56:26.280 --> 1:56:30.520 former players who become finalist for the new class, and 1:56:30.640 --> 1:56:34.440 that will be unveiled early in December. The nine semi 1:56:34.560 --> 1:56:40.520 finalists at this point Roger Craig, Henry Ellard, L. C. Greenwood, 1:56:40.920 --> 1:56:46.560 Joe Jacobi, Eddie Medder, Stanley Morgan, Steve Tasker, Otis Taylor, 1:56:46.880 --> 1:56:51.840 and our guy Kenny Anderson is one more cutdown away 1:56:51.880 --> 1:56:54.400 from advancing to the finals for the Pro Football Hall 1:56:54.440 --> 1:56:57.160 of Fame. Big day tomorrow. Best of luck to Kenny, 1:56:57.400 --> 1:57:00.560 Best to luck to Kenny and all. Though those guys 1:57:00.960 --> 1:57:04.760 were great football players, but they didn't play quarterback. Ken 1:57:04.880 --> 1:57:06.040 Anderson played quarterback the. 1:57:06.080 --> 1:57:10.080 Most important position in all of sports, not just football, 1:57:10.200 --> 1:57:13.320 I mean all of sports. That's what's being said by 1:57:13.400 --> 1:57:17.240 everybody that follows sports these days. And Kenny Anderson played 1:57:17.240 --> 1:57:20.120 it so well. I'll tell you what. Bill Walsh was 1:57:20.280 --> 1:57:23.080 amazed when he went up to Tiny Augustan and worked 1:57:23.080 --> 1:57:25.600 out Kenny Anderson. And I remember him coming back saying 1:57:25.600 --> 1:57:30.040 that the report that he filed, I saw a copy 1:57:30.120 --> 1:57:31.720 of it. Mike Brown, let me read the copy of it. 1:57:31.800 --> 1:57:35.280 How accurate he said. This kid throws the football as 1:57:35.400 --> 1:57:41.040 accurately as I have ever seen. He should be a 1:57:41.160 --> 1:57:43.920 first round pick, but he might be there in rounds 1:57:43.920 --> 1:57:45.760 two and three, and we got to be ready to 1:57:45.840 --> 1:57:47.560 pull the trigger. Man, oh man. 1:57:48.200 --> 1:57:51.879 I don't know who makes up the Blue Ribbon committee 1:57:51.920 --> 1:57:55.840 that is making this final decision. I just I feel 1:57:55.920 --> 1:57:59.680 sometimes that I'd like to take some voters who might 1:57:59.720 --> 1:58:02.000 be on a younger side and drop him into football 1:58:02.040 --> 1:58:04.880 in the seventies and eighties and understand the way the 1:58:04.960 --> 1:58:08.120 game was played then compared to now. I understand just 1:58:08.320 --> 1:58:11.120 how good Kenny. Kenny would have been good in any era. 1:58:11.280 --> 1:58:14.440 But just I don't want him short changed because the 1:58:14.520 --> 1:58:17.040 numbers may be different than a than a Drew Brees, 1:58:17.200 --> 1:58:20.200 Aaron Rodgers, Peyton, somebody from this era, right, It just 1:58:20.840 --> 1:58:23.600 it should translate better in the understanding of just how 1:58:23.720 --> 1:58:24.720 damn good Kenny was. 1:58:24.840 --> 1:58:27.840 I mean, nowadays, throw the ball forty times game is? 1:58:28.000 --> 1:58:30.600 You know, no big deal. Back in the day, I 1:58:30.680 --> 1:58:32.680 mean it was. If you throw it twenty five times, 1:58:32.720 --> 1:58:35.320 that was a lot. Forty times was unheard of, maybe 1:58:35.360 --> 1:58:38.680 in overtime or double overtime for something. But and and 1:58:38.800 --> 1:58:41.720 Kenny put up big, big numbers, you know, throwing it 1:58:41.800 --> 1:58:44.000 twenty five times a game. I'm telling you, if you 1:58:44.080 --> 1:58:47.360 were playing in today's era, he would be rewriting the 1:58:47.480 --> 1:58:52.400 record book for attempts, completions, yards, touchdowns, you name it. 1:58:52.520 --> 1:58:55.480 Kenny Anderson would have all the records across the board. 1:58:55.880 --> 1:58:59.240 One name that also popped out on this list. To 1:58:59.360 --> 1:59:02.560 me to ask you about when I say L. C. Green, 1:59:03.400 --> 1:59:04.400 what do you think of? 1:59:04.560 --> 1:59:05.240 Tell me about it? 1:59:05.520 --> 1:59:07.960 Sorry to bring up bad memories day, Tell me memories 1:59:07.960 --> 1:59:09.000 of Greenwood. 1:59:09.160 --> 1:59:11.840 I think of the steel curtain defense and automatically, boy, 1:59:11.880 --> 1:59:15.400 but automatically comes right right in my face, slaps me away. 1:59:15.840 --> 1:59:18.480 I'm telling you. And of course I played against Joe Green. 1:59:18.560 --> 1:59:19.920 Joe Green was the guy that I had to try 1:59:19.960 --> 1:59:22.800 to block in the steel curtain defense. But I played 1:59:22.920 --> 1:59:25.760 right next to Vernon Suckie Holland and Sukie and Elsie 1:59:25.800 --> 1:59:27.240 Greenwood had some battles. 1:59:27.280 --> 1:59:27.400 Man. 1:59:27.800 --> 1:59:31.760 Elsie was tall, but he was long, long arms, long legs, 1:59:31.840 --> 1:59:35.440 big feet, big hands. He was very unusual. It looked 1:59:35.480 --> 1:59:37.080 like you could have played in the NBA. He was 1:59:37.120 --> 1:59:39.360 built like that, but a sturdy you know, like a 1:59:39.520 --> 1:59:43.400 very physical NBA type player, very strong guy. You know, 1:59:43.520 --> 1:59:45.400 he worked in the weight room to put on good, 1:59:45.520 --> 1:59:47.240 good muscle mass and did a hell of a job 1:59:47.320 --> 1:59:49.480 of it. But boy, I'll tell you what those steel 1:59:49.520 --> 1:59:53.240 curtain defenses in Elsie Greenwood, man, I'll tell you they 1:59:53.360 --> 1:59:55.480 they could They could play. They played the game, They 1:59:55.560 --> 1:59:58.160 played the game the right way, and they played it hard. 1:59:58.400 --> 1:59:58.520 You know. 1:59:58.760 --> 2:00:01.160 The other thing that jumps out of else Greenwood. And 2:00:01.440 --> 2:00:03.880 we talk a lot about identifying talent and how good 2:00:04.000 --> 2:00:06.520 Paul Brown was. Yeah, and you look at the Steelers' 2:00:06.560 --> 2:00:09.920 ability to identify Elsie Greenwood was a tenth round pick 2:00:10.040 --> 2:00:13.760 out of Arkansas Pine Bluff who winds up with seventy 2:00:13.880 --> 2:00:17.240 eight career sacks, six time pro bowler, and just that 2:00:17.520 --> 2:00:20.240 eye for talent. In being able to scour and find 2:00:20.320 --> 2:00:21.720 it anywhere around the country. 2:00:21.920 --> 2:00:25.920 Yeah, and Chuck Nole, who played for Paul Brown with 2:00:26.000 --> 2:00:28.480 the Cleveland Browns, he was a messenger guard, so he 2:00:28.600 --> 2:00:33.600 knew great interior or he knew great offensive or defensive lineman, 2:00:33.960 --> 2:00:37.280 interior or exterier. And I'm sure he gave the thumbs 2:00:37.360 --> 2:00:40.880 up the AOK to draft Elsie Greenwood, particularly in the 2:00:40.960 --> 2:00:45.600 tenth round. Man, that's unbelievable for a guy of that 2:00:46.160 --> 2:00:48.440 talent to last until the tenth round. 2:00:48.560 --> 2:00:52.320 That happened sometimes, Yep, no doubt. And again, those nine 2:00:52.360 --> 2:00:56.080 are all have outstanding resume. Steve Tasker arguably the greatest 2:00:56.080 --> 2:00:58.840 special teamers of all time. Jo Jacobe a heck of 2:00:58.920 --> 2:01:02.520 an offensive line rocker, Craig dual threat thousand yards receiving 2:01:02.560 --> 2:01:04.920 thousand yard rushing in the same season for the Niners. 2:01:05.040 --> 2:01:05.520 That's nuts. 2:01:05.560 --> 2:01:08.880 But man, just our fingers are crossed. And we're thinking 2:01:08.920 --> 2:01:12.120 about Kenny tomorrow as they cut it down to three finalists. 2:01:12.520 --> 2:01:15.640 And here's to Kenny Anderson being one of those final three. 2:01:16.320 --> 2:01:18.880 Best The luck, my friend, You've earned it, you deserve. 2:01:18.600 --> 2:01:21.960 It, absolutely all right. We are out of time. We'll 2:01:22.000 --> 2:01:25.680 be back at you one week from tonight, Thanksgiving in Baltimore. 2:01:25.800 --> 2:01:28.480 For will it be crab cakes for Thanksgiving? Or will 2:01:28.520 --> 2:01:30.919 it be turkey for things? How about turkey for Thanksgiving? 2:01:31.000 --> 2:01:32.320 Dave with a side of crab cakes. 2:01:32.400 --> 2:01:35.400 Yeah, maybe a little crab cake advertiser, and then just 2:01:35.960 --> 2:01:39.160 kill the turkey man. Just worked that bird hard. 2:01:39.440 --> 2:01:41.920 Yes, well, Happy Thanksgiving to you and to you and 2:01:42.040 --> 2:01:45.080 to everybody listening. And we'll catch you one from tonight. 2:01:45.160 --> 2:01:45.760 Sound like a plan. 2:01:45.920 --> 2:01:47.320 Sounds like a big time plan. Sir. 2:01:47.520 --> 2:01:50.160 He's Dave Lapham, I'm Lance Pacalister. 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