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Speaker 2: All right, let's get it going on this Monday night.

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Speaker 2: If it's Monday, it must be Bengals Line, and that

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Speaker 2: means three hours of conversation coming your way. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: hear from the players and coaches will break it all down.

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Speaker 2: At a twenty six to twenty loss to the Patriots yesterday,

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Speaker 2: we'll look to the quick turnaround Thursday night Thanksgiving out

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Speaker 2: against those Baltimore Ravens in the division. Dave, let's begin here.

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Speaker 2: We knew going in, the expectation was things would be

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Speaker 2: difficult without Jamar Chase and then early and unexpected benefit,

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Speaker 2: the defense gets a pick six. It's ten nothing, you're thinking, okay,

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Speaker 2: and unfortunately it's kind of the yin and yang of

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Speaker 2: this season. Something good will happen, something negative will happen.

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Speaker 2: It's just kind of the path that this season that

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Speaker 2: we've seen it navigate from week one through. It balances

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Speaker 2: out a good moment with a very frustrating moment into

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Speaker 2: the very end on a drive with a chance to

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Speaker 2: maybe win. And then know, and we sit here tonight

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Speaker 2: dissecting twenty six to twenty in defeat.

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Speaker 3: That sums it up very very well. I'm telling you

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Speaker 3: that that was a kind of a heartbreaker. Really. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they played the Patriots off their feet, they really did.

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Speaker 3: It was it was anybody's football game. Like you said,

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Speaker 3: they'd make a play, you know, turnover touchdown is about

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Speaker 3: as good as it gets. Make a play like that,

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Speaker 3: and then they'd give up a same type of thing,

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Speaker 3: turnover touchdown or give up a big player, whatever the

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Speaker 3: case may be. It was. It was the highs and lows,

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Speaker 3: you know, like they talk about in the wild world

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Speaker 3: of sports, is the thriller victory, the agony of defeat,

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Speaker 3: and the highs and lows of it that goes along

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Speaker 3: during the course that journey. And that's what the Bengals

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Speaker 3: organized with yesterday. They played well enough to win, they

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Speaker 3: really did in most intances, but you have to close

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Speaker 3: it out, you know, you have to somehow figure out

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Speaker 3: a way to make a play that ends the game,

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Speaker 3: that finishes it off, and the Bengals are just having

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Speaker 3: an extremely difficult time right now finishing.

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Speaker 2: You think of that. I go back to the sequence,

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Speaker 2: and it's not just offense defense, it's all three managing

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Speaker 2: a positive or a negative that I think of the

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Speaker 2: sweet pass from Flacco to Tinsley at four forty to

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Speaker 2: go and they're in position, and then the special teams

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Speaker 2: gives up the thirty six yard kick return, and then

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Speaker 2: on third and eleven, the defense gives up the completion

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Speaker 2: and it's just like h everywhere you turn, thinking you

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Speaker 2: want to clap, then you just like shake your hands

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Speaker 2: at frustration.

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Speaker 3: I had a few friends that attended the game, and

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Speaker 3: that's exactly what they said they were doing. You know,

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Speaker 3: it was like they be on their feet going absolutely crazy,

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Speaker 3: going berserk, and then you know, what the heck are

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Speaker 2: Uh it.

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Speaker 3: There were a good number of big plays, and I

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Speaker 3: at this point in time, I'd like to give some

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Speaker 3: credit to Joe Flacco for sucking it up the way

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Speaker 3: he did. I mean, this guy is a pros pro.

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Speaker 3: There's there's no question about that. And and uh, you

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Speaker 3: could tell that he was still in pain, he was

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Speaker 3: a legitimate and serious pain there. And what throwing the football,

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Speaker 3: There's there's no doubt about it. I mean, he's he's

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Speaker 3: showing leadership both physically and mentally, you know, with his

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Speaker 3: a victory for him though.

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Speaker 2: That lost four in a row.

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Speaker 3: Now, man, after beating the Pittsburgh Steelers thirty three, thirty one,

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh gonna rematch, and then they lose by six. I

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Speaker 3: mean if two of those games, yes, go the other way.

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Speaker 3: We'd be talking about a horse of a different color.

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Speaker 2: Boy, And just think as you say that, if you'd

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Speaker 2: against the Ravens who are in first at six and five,

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Speaker 2: you've got two games left against them. I mean, if

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Speaker 2: to us, hey, I think by week eleven the division

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Speaker 2: leader in the AFC North would be six and five, right,

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Speaker 2: we would have said, what six and five? I think

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Speaker 2: chasing that. It's just so just missed opportunities along the way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that sums it up right there, missed opportunities. And

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Speaker 3: this was a year that the AFC North was extreme.

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Speaker 3: We win all. Let's face him. When you have the

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Speaker 3: the six and five record, I mean that's very just

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Speaker 3: the way the entire division is playing. You know, you

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Speaker 3: can't sleep on Cleveland, Cleveland, will you know? Jump up

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Speaker 3: and bite you in the butt. There's no question about that. Uh,

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Speaker 3: two clubs and the Bengals, man, it was such an opportunity.

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Speaker 3: But when you look at it, the football God said, no,

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Speaker 3: it's not gonna be this year for you guys because

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Speaker 3: you're gonna have to deal with injuries. You're gonna have

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Speaker 3: you know, if you can do that and win the division,

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Speaker 3: God bless you. You know you're you're a better football

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Speaker 2: And Dave, nobody will nobody will say this Bengals defense

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Speaker 2: obviously is the doomsday defense of the Steel Curtain, right,

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Speaker 2: but in the last two weeks they've allowed nineteen and

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Speaker 2: part of the frustration. The defense has actually looked at

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Speaker 2: not great, but certainly there's progress being made the last

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think Al Golden would agree with that. Lance.

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Speaker 3: But you know, they've had their share of injuries as well.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they're they're playing a couple of rookie linebackers

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Speaker 3: they've had problems with the injury to the outside edge

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Speaker 2: Let's pick it up with coach Zach Taylor after the

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Speaker 2: game his thoughts on what transpired.

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Speaker 4: Zach, the defense allowed nineteen points today, it was twenty

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Speaker 4: last week.

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Speaker 5: What progress do you see on that side of the ball.

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Speaker 6: They're finding rhythm, you know, it's they're believing in each other,

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Speaker 6: what we're doing, finding ways to get stops. Guys are

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Speaker 6: stepping up and making plays. I love the communication from

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Speaker 6: that group, and they're starting to get more and more confidence.

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Speaker 6: You know, That's just that's how the world works. To

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Speaker 6: have some success, you get more confidence. There's a lot

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Speaker 6: of things today. I think that'll continue to build towards

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Speaker 6: that as well, and we'll build on that moving forward.

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Speaker 4: Jalen Davis has been part of this team for most

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Speaker 4: of your tenure. He got an opportunity to play extended

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Speaker 4: you think of Jayleen?

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Speaker 6: He's not afraid to go make a play, you know,

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Speaker 6: and that's what you saw. He went after him, got

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Speaker 6: and so you just you see things. He's a competitor,

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Speaker 6: he's got a high football IQ. He's not afraid to

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Speaker 6: go make a play, and I saw that from JD today.

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Speaker 4: I think there was a stretch where New England had

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Speaker 5: What kind of a building block is that?

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Speaker 6: That's character, I mean, that's that's character and toughness. And

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Speaker 6: guys just doing their job and know one that other

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Speaker 6: out and proud of those guys that gave us a

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Speaker 6: lot of momentum, you know. And they stopped him on

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Speaker 6: the two and we didn't go score, but we were

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Speaker 6: proud of the effort on those that drive you're talking

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Speaker 4: Chase Brown ran for more than one hundred yards today.

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Speaker 4: I don't think I'm back at top sixty against the

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Speaker 4: Patriots defense this year. Do you feel like the running

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 6: Again, that speaks to the confidence. I think the whole

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Speaker 6: group's got confidence in the run game. The guys up

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Speaker 6: job there, communication backs, understanding where we're going to fit

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Speaker 6: these balls. The tight ends are doing excellent job, and

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Speaker 6: we do have a lot of confidence for a run

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Speaker 6: game right now. And we'll continue lean on.

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Speaker 4: You didn't have Jamar Chase, and you lost T Higgins

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Speaker 4: late in this game. Mitch Tinsley caught a touchdown pass.

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Speaker 4: Andre yoc Bosch made some big catches. But how difficult

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Speaker 4: is it offensively when you're essentially down to a couple

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Speaker 6: That's just that's the way it works. You got to

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Speaker 6: find a way. No one wants to hear excuses. You

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Speaker 6: got to put those guys in a position to be successful.

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Speaker 6: I think their position coaches have been an excellent job

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Speaker 6: preparing the next man up, problem solving on the move

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Speaker 6: there as guys were playing a different position for the

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Speaker 6: first time and run concepts that hadn't practiced. I thought

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Speaker 6: our execution was still really at a high level and

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Speaker 6: give us a chance to win the game.

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Speaker 4: You seriously considered the possibility of Joe Burrow playing this week.

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Speaker 4: How quickly would you like to have a decision made

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Speaker 4: for the Thursday night game against Baltimore.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's got to be clarity, you know, in terms

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Speaker 6: of just we're not physically practicing, we're walking through and stuff.

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Speaker 6: But you'd like the quarterbacks step clarity. So Sooner wrote

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Speaker 6: that later appreciate your time.

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Speaker 2: Yep, thank you, dam Zach Taylor. After the game, we'll

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Speaker 2: Lance McAllister Dave Lapham Let's talk defense Geno Stone yesterday

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the thirteen tackles and a thirty two yard pick six.

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Speaker 3: were on their feet, they were they were high five

439
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Speaker 3: and high ten and they were. They were all all

440
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Speaker 3: jacked up and thought there could be a big turning

441
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Speaker 3: point in the game, which it could have been, but

442
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Speaker 3: was not meant to be unfortunately.

443
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Speaker 2: Let's let's pick it up after the game and hear

444
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Speaker 2: from the man who had those thirteen tackles and the

445
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Speaker 2: pick six. Here is Geno Stone.

446
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Speaker 6: Gonna start off with, uh, your pick six?

447
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Speaker 8: Who kind to take me back to kind of.

448
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Speaker 4: What you saw on that play.

449
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Speaker 12: We're just kind of in a you know, m a

450
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Speaker 12: man defense and kind of just went empty. And I

451
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Speaker 12: was reading the quarterback early seeing the free runner kind

452
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Speaker 12: of just went over top, and you know, he th

453
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Speaker 12: I kind of overthrew it and then I just took

454
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Speaker 12: it from there.

455
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Speaker 2: What didn't mean for you.

456
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Speaker 13: To make a fool like that?

457
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Speaker 8: And especially getting expands?

458
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Speaker 6: Uh?

459
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Speaker 12: Nah, I feel like I needed it, you know, just

460
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Speaker 12: haf the past few weeks I had I feel like I,

461
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Speaker 12: you know, I wasn't playing up to what I should

462
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Speaker 12: be playing at. And I feel like, you know, today

463
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Speaker 12: I showed what I'm capable of and who I really am.

464
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Speaker 12: So I feel like I needed that. You say, take

465
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Speaker 12: that play out of the equation. You still feel like

466
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Speaker 12: it was a pretty solid game for you. Yeah, I

467
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Speaker 12: mean I looked up. I think I got thirteen tackles.

468
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Speaker 12: I think that's the most ever had in my career.

469
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Speaker 12: So I mean I feel like I checked that box

470
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Speaker 12: off and checked that other box off. So the other

471
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Speaker 12: thing we did, we we did.

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Speaker 8: We sent win, you know.

473
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Speaker 12: Individual I mean, I feel good, but end of the day,

474
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Speaker 12: I wanna win, and the the win is.

475
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Speaker 10: Like you said, the most important thing, but the the

476
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Speaker 10: gold line stands. I mean, how much couldn't that carry

477
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Speaker 10: forward for this defense.

478
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Speaker 9: As a as a whole.

479
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Speaker 12: No, I mean I just feel like, you know, work,

480
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Speaker 12: we're showing who our row identity is. I mean it

481
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Speaker 12: it took a while. I took a lot, so I

482
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Speaker 12: play we're going guys in the race, boss, and we're

483
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Speaker 12: all just you know, playing Hart right though. I mean,

484
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Speaker 12: I feel like you guys are flying around and you

485
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Speaker 12: know we're owning uh up to all the things that

486
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Speaker 12: we were mistakes that we had an early in season,

487
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Speaker 12: and we're all just put together right now.

488
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Speaker 6: I think that's happened to me that one that I'm now.

489
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Speaker 12: Going, Uh, get your body ready. I know I'm hurting

490
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 12: a little bit. You just got you get it ready.

491
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Speaker 12: You know you got a short way. So I know

492
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Speaker 12: the coach you're gonna get a good game plan for us,

493
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Speaker 12: and to get get ready for the Ravers. You know

494
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Speaker 12: the type of team they are is a ABC North,

495
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Speaker 12: So tryta get ready for him.

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Speaker 10: We got Joe Burrow coming back. The defense takes a

497
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Speaker 10: step forward. Do you feel like you guys have a

498
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Speaker 10: run in you even though it's been.

499
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Speaker 12: Eight out of nine months. No, definitely, I mean we're

500
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Speaker 12: right there. I mean, I play every game. We have

501
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Speaker 12: a right there, so something that you can't count us out,

502
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Speaker 12: especially gout with Joe Burro, like Joe Burrow. So I

503
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Speaker 12: feel like, you know, the run we had last year,

504
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Speaker 12: you just gotta start now.

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Speaker 9: I was gonna say last year, does that give you

506
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Speaker 9: guys something to lean on and look?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, definitely, I mean definitely, And it's especially stressed we

508
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Speaker 12: got coming up. It's all considered team, so it's gonna

509
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Speaker 12: show what we're made up. So we definitely gotta get

510
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Speaker 12: these games right now.

511
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Speaker 9: They have talked about it.

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Speaker 11: Can you walk me through the big early in the

513
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Speaker 11: game to create momentum and make a big play.

514
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Speaker 12: Yeah, nothing, I was just saying, it really just a

515
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Speaker 12: man defense kind of just playing the post and uh,

516
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Speaker 12: you know, right the quarterback's eyes and he kind of

517
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Speaker 12: you know, overthrow the you know, tight end by a

518
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Speaker 12: little bit, and uh, you know it's a man to

519
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Speaker 12: pay for it.

520
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Speaker 11: So yeah, when you get the ball in your head,

521
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Speaker 11: I know you're thinking, but did it just open up

522
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Speaker 11: for you in front of you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: Kind of, I kind of you know, I'll try to

525
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Speaker 12: skin you up all of our linemen because you know,

526
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Speaker 12: usually you had to go to the sideline and someone

527
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Speaker 12: usually takes an angle gets you out, so I really

528
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Speaker 12: try to just keep up the middle first and then

529
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Speaker 12: bounce it out and then all the guys did a

530
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Speaker 12: great job blocking from me.

531
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Speaker 9: So that's kind of all was happened. Yeah, you guys

532
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Speaker 9: are in the winds business.

533
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Speaker 11: But is today and encouraging for the defense despite the loss?

534
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Speaker 9: Yeah, definitely.

535
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Speaker 12: I mean I feel like we had a bunch of

536
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Speaker 12: goal line stances and I mean what probably all gave

537
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Speaker 12: him one touchdown and then the touchdown was kind of

538
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 12: schemed up on us. We know what kind of where

539
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Speaker 12: it came from.

540
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Speaker 3: So h hatch off to them.

541
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Speaker 12: But you know, I feel like we did a great

542
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Speaker 12: job today the way we tackled and the way we

543
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Speaker 12: flew around and played.

544
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Speaker 11: You felt like they had the ball on the one

545
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Speaker 11: yard line seven eight different times and couldn't score on

546
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Speaker 11: you guys. What is it about this d defense today

547
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Speaker 11: that it really clicked and you guys.

548
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 5: Were hard to score on?

549
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Speaker 12: Like I said, I mean, like I said earlier, we

550
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Speaker 12: kind of just owned up to all the mistakes we

551
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Speaker 12: had in the past, and uh, you know, owning everything

552
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Speaker 12: that happen and then taking them forward and then taking

553
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Speaker 12: the next step. I feel like a lot of guys

554
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Speaker 12: that we said, like all the leaders we have in

555
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 12: the group are leading all the younger guys and take

556
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Speaker 12: taking everyone that's uh, you know that he's messing up

557
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Speaker 12: with myself. We're all taking our next step and getting

558
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Speaker 12: better at each week and each day.

559
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Speaker 11: A lot of guys who are getting the first opportunity,

560
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Speaker 11: who are showing up and making plays for this defense.

561
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Speaker 11: How important is it that anybody who's called up one

562
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Speaker 11: has to come in there and be.

563
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Speaker 2: A difference man.

564
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Speaker 12: No, it's definitely great. I mean it's the next man

565
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 12: inntality all the time. This is how it's how the

566
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Speaker 12: league works. You know, guys get hurt a lot of

567
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,640
Speaker 12: in this league. So uh, whenever your opportunity is called,

568
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 12: you gotta get ready to go play. And uh, a

569
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Speaker 12: bunch of guys that are thinking today, especially Jad, so

570
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Speaker 12: he's gotta I say right now that just you know,

571
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Speaker 12: cause came in and we had tip a beat. So

572
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Speaker 12: I'm hats off to him and hats off to all

573
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Speaker 12: the guys who played today and play We played hard.

574
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Speaker 11: Rom If there's anybody in this room who knows what

575
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Speaker 11: the challenge is Thursday night going to Baltimore winning, it's

576
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Speaker 11: you from your time there. Do you feel like this

577
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Speaker 11: team is close though, to kind of get that win

578
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Speaker 11: and just kind of calumbing the water, so to speak?

579
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Speaker 3: With the win?

580
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Speaker 12: Yeah, definitely. I mean, I mean I feel I mean,

581
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 12: we were right there every game.

582
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Speaker 9: We've been right there.

583
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Speaker 12: It's not like we haven't been there yet. So I mean,

584
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Speaker 12: I feel like all it takes is, you know that

585
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Speaker 12: the last go plays and we's got to finish.

586
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Speaker 3: That's all.

587
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Speaker 12: That's all it takes right now. And I feel like

588
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 12: we got the guys in a group, especially, we got

589
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Speaker 12: guys home back, so uh, I'm ready for I'm ready

590
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Speaker 12: for those.

591
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Speaker 2: That Geno stone after the game. The one thing that

592
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Speaker 2: jumps out and back to our original theme of the

593
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Speaker 2: yin and yang of all this is as many times

594
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Speaker 2: as they made plays defensively, how many times did the

595
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Speaker 2: Patriots target the middle of the field. The tight ends,

596
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Speaker 2: who combined had ten catches, one hundred and fifty four

597
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Speaker 2: yards and a touchdown. Drake Maye threw for two ninety four,

598
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Speaker 2: so one fifty four. Over half the yards went to

599
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Speaker 2: the tight ends. Dave and Dan mentioned during the broadcast

600
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Speaker 2: just in an incredulous voice, like, why do why do

601
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Speaker 2: the struggles continue of stopping the tight ends over the

602
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Speaker 2: middle of the field. Yeah, the sixty four thousand dollars question,

603
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Speaker 2: but no answer, no question about it.

604
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Speaker 3: It's a difficult thing to answer. And it's like, all right, well,

605
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Speaker 3: are the tight ends just winning? Are they beating linebackers

606
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Speaker 3: in safeties? You know, are they running better real crisp

607
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 3: routes getting separation? To me, it doesn't look like that.

608
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 3: It looks like there are blown assignments. I mean, it's

609
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Speaker 3: got to be driving Al Golden crazy. He has to

610
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Speaker 3: be tearing his hair out by the roots, because you know,

611
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Speaker 3: that's not what he's all about. I mean, when he

612
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Speaker 3: was at Notre Dame, they were buttoned up. They did

613
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Speaker 3: not blow assignments. And they might have gotten beaten physically

614
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Speaker 3: because they played against a better opponent or whatever the

615
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Speaker 3: case may be there individually or collectively as a football team,

616
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Speaker 3: but it wasn't giving things away because of mental errors.

617
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Speaker 3: And man Paul Brown used to hate that. Oh jeez.

618
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Speaker 3: I mean, if you get your nose into playbooks on

619
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Speaker 3: understand what we're trying to do here. If you can't

620
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Speaker 3: handle it mentally, we can't play you. We can't put

621
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Speaker 3: you on the football field, or if you do understand

622
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Speaker 3: it mentally and you're trying to make plays and beat

623
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Speaker 3: play hero ball. I don't like that either. I don't

624
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Speaker 3: like hero ball. I like team football. I want us

625
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Speaker 3: to play team defense, and that's what the coaches want,

626
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Speaker 3: and that's what we want as well.

627
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Speaker 2: David, I would think, at least on a day, and

628
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Speaker 2: I know it's a loss is a loss, and you

629
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Speaker 2: still look though for signs and stuff to stack and

630
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Speaker 2: build on it. And we mentioned the progress made by

631
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Speaker 2: the defense, and I thought Chris Jenkins, I wrote his

632
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Speaker 2: name down early in a game for the first time

633
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Speaker 2: in a while. And Jaylen Davis. We'll hear from Jalen

634
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Speaker 2: coming up in this hour on his interception. But there

635
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Speaker 2: are guys who have good moments, which I think gotta

636
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 2: has got to mean something for them individually and something

637
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Speaker 2: for the unit to say, all right, we've been getting

638
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Speaker 2: our tail kicked, and we've been we've been beating up

639
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 2: all season long, but maybe some things are starting to

640
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 2: develop here and there's more reason to believe in what

641
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Speaker 2: we're doing right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Jalen Davis is a great example. Al Golden

643
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Speaker 3: has to be proud of him, and he just keeps

644
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 3: getting better and better, and he deserves more and more

645
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 3: playing time, more and more opportunity to make plays. He

646
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Speaker 3: had the interception. I think he was probably as good

647
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 3: a tackler as it was on the football field. I mean,

648
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Speaker 3: when he hit people, they were on the ground, he

649
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 3: brought him down. There wasn't you know, mistackle yards after

650
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Speaker 3: initial contact. He did a very good job of form tackling,

651
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 3: getting the head across the bow and wrapping those arms up.

652
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Speaker 3: That's the key. I think a high percentage of the

653
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 3: misstackles are due to not wrapping up and taking the

654
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Speaker 3: opponent's ball. Carry would be it running back, wide, receiver,

655
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Speaker 3: tight end, whatever to the ground.

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Speaker 2: Still ahead, and we'll flip the script back to the

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Speaker 2: offensive side of things. Mitch Tinsley checks in as we

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Speaker 2: roll on with Bengals Line and the Bengals Radio Network

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Speaker 2: rolling right along, and it's monding out of Bengals Line

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Speaker 2: of the Bengals Radio Network and ESPN fifteen thirty at.

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Speaker 3: Lance's time for the injury report, which unfortunately, fortunately is

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Speaker 3: pretty extensive. Nothing real serious, you know, surgery, you know,

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Speaker 3: end of season and all that sort of thing. But

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Speaker 3: they're beaten up and they're nicked up for sure. And

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Speaker 3: And uh it is. I mean, you know, you've got

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Speaker 3: guys out because of injury, and again nothing nothing severe,

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Speaker 3: but enough to keep them out of the football game.

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Speaker 3: And and then guys get hurt during the course of

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Speaker 3: the football game. You know, you get your and it

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Speaker 3: always seems like one position group starts to get ravaged,

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Speaker 3: you know, and and uh Jamar Chase uh you know

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Speaker 3: is missing for this football game and then lo and

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Speaker 3: behold uh down goes T Higgins.

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Speaker 2: That was scary.

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Speaker 11: It was that.

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Speaker 2: That's one of those ones you had cringed and kind

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Speaker 2: of jumped when you saw the head just snap off

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Speaker 2: the turf.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that uh man, When you when when it bounces

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Speaker 3: like that, when it gets that kind of a kind

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Speaker 3: of a bounce, uh you know that that noticeable a bounce,

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Speaker 3: You're thinking there could be some damage there and there

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Speaker 3: there was hopefully nothing too severe. He won't miss too

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Speaker 3: much time. But man, you just I mean, I know

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Speaker 3: the fan base is just like, when are we gonna

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Speaker 3: have all three of the big three together at the

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Speaker 3: same time performing for the Cincinnati Bengals. They're still still

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Speaker 3: waiting for that. And Uh, unfortunate enough to wait a

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Speaker 3: little longer.

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Speaker 2: With the t situation. In a normal week, it's probably

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Speaker 2: gonna be it would have been challenging to get through

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Speaker 2: concussion protocol on a short week. Probably lean to not

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Speaker 2: gonna be able to turn it around that quickly to

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Speaker 2: play Thursday.

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Speaker 3: Agreed, absolutely, And uh, and also I think that was

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Speaker 3: probably a factor in the Joe Burrow decision. All right, well,

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Speaker 3: let's just you know, you got you got two games

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Speaker 3: in a very short time frame here a quick turnaround.

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Speaker 3: You're not gonna have a whole lot of time to

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Speaker 3: recover after the after the football game against the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 3: So what you know are the New England Patriots, So

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Speaker 3: what are we gonna what are we gonna do? Well,

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Speaker 3: let's just wait and let's let them go against the

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Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens. Let's let them match up against lamarg They've

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Speaker 3: had some incredible matchups in the past. And and Joe

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Speaker 3: Burrow has done a great job of going into Baltimore

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Speaker 3: and giving the Ravens all he can handle and beating him.

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Speaker 3: They have a lot of respect for him, and rightfully so.

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Speaker 2: Mitch Tinsley yesterday two catches twenty nine yards, a seventeen

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Speaker 2: yarder and a touchdown. A really sweet throw from Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 2: A really nice catch from Mitchell Tinsley. Here's Mitch after

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Speaker 2: the game on the afternoon, we're in the locker room.

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Speaker 4: Mitch Tinsley had a touchdown catch today, an opportunity there

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Speaker 4: late in the game to potentially pull it out. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 4: you guys couldn't quite score that game winning touchdown. But

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Speaker 4: what did you think of the Offensi's performance late in

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Speaker 4: the game and at least making it a possible come

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Speaker 13: We did a good job fighting, trying to take advantage

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Speaker 13: of opportunities when we were out there. You know, some

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Speaker 13: guys went down, and you know some guys stuffed up,

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Speaker 13: and I think, you know, we just try to fight today.

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Speaker 4: In your touchdown pass was the first that Christian Gonzalez

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Speaker 4: is allowed all year. It looked like a perfect throw

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Speaker 4: from Joe Flacco. Described the route, described the play, Oh it.

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Speaker 13: Was a man coverage and you know, cause that was

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Speaker 13: was a great player. But you know I seen him,

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Speaker 13: I gave him a great release, stacked him, and you

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Speaker 13: know I just looked the ball.

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Speaker 9: And Joe put it right right there where I needed to,

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Speaker 9: and you know, I just made a play.

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Speaker 5: You guys didn't have Jamar for the entire game. It

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Speaker 5: didn't have t late.

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Speaker 4: How did that affect you and Andre and some of

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Speaker 4: the other guys trying to you know, take up for

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Speaker 4: that absence and make plays down the stretch.

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Speaker 13: I mean, I feel like all of us just tried

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Speaker 13: to do a good job of, you know, approaching every

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Speaker 13: single day in practice and you know, just every just

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Speaker 13: every day mentality like where the starters. So I I think,

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Speaker 13: you know, we had to go in knowing that, with

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Speaker 13: the confidence, knowing that we can make plays, uh you

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Speaker 13: know when our numbers called, and just being ready for

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Speaker 13: the opportunity.

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Speaker 4: I mentioned the touchdown catch. How about the the catch

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Speaker 4: on fourth down late in the game. I'm not sure

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Speaker 4: how you caught that. It looked like went right through

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Speaker 4: the defensive back's hands and you someholp up the found

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Speaker 4: the ball and state in violence.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, it was just h is a focus then, honestly,

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Speaker 13: because I wasn't sure if he was gonna get high

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Speaker 13: enough for anything to you know, to get hand on it,

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Speaker 13: and they want to see him go through his hands

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Speaker 13: time or reaction to everything, because where I thought the

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Speaker 13: ball was gonna go and where it actually ended up.

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Speaker 8: You know, I just had to react to it.

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Speaker 9: But yeah, it was And I just try to make.

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Speaker 4: A point, Mitchell, are you encouraged by what the defense

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Speaker 4: is doing. It's two weeks now where the defense at

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Speaker 4: least has given up twenty or fewer points to the

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Speaker 4: other team's offense.

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Speaker 9: I have full confidence in our defense.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 13: I feel like they grind, they go hard every single day.

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Speaker 9: You know, they have a great.

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Speaker 13: Mentality the way they approach practice every single week, and

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Speaker 13: you know, I think it's showing out there this week

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Speaker 13: so last week. So I mean, I know they're gonna

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Speaker 13: continue to do with what they've been doing.

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Speaker 5: And you know, just go go on to the next

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Speaker 5: congratulating your second TV. Thank you. That's Mitchy.

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Speaker 2: Mitch Tinsley After the game and Dave, we talk about

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Speaker 2: guys taking advantage of opportunities. Bengal saw something in him

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Speaker 2: in camp. I think everybody was kind of buzzing, like, hey,

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Speaker 2: this is Tinsley.

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Speaker 3: He's got something going on.

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Speaker 2: Here, and he's taken advantage of the opportunities when presented this.

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Speaker 3: He really has, I mean five catches, two of them

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Speaker 3: are touchdowns. That's pretty damn good production right there. He's

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Speaker 3: averaging fifteen point six per catch along of twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: So when he's been given the opportunity, he's answered the bell.

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Speaker 3: There's no doubt. And I think you know, Joe Flacco

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Speaker 3: and Joe Burrow both have confidence in this kid. It's

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Speaker 3: like when he's on the football viil, it's not like

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Speaker 3: should I or shouldn't I. No, they're cutting it loose.

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Speaker 3: They're they're getting the ball to to mits Tinseley, and

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Speaker 3: he's showing them that they should. He's a great story,

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Speaker 3: there's no question, and the all the teammates love him.

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Speaker 3: He works hard, man, he's, you know, on the football field,

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Speaker 3: one of the first ones out in the field, one

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Speaker 3: of the last ones to leave kind of guy. He's

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Speaker 3: given everything he's got. He knows that how fortunate he

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Speaker 3: is that not everybody playing football and walking the earth

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Speaker 3: is going to get a chance to play professional football

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Speaker 3: and he's getting one, so he wants to capitalize big time.

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Speaker 2: And I guess you could say the opposite of not

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Speaker 2: taking the opposite of taking advantage of opportun unities would

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Speaker 2: be somebody like Unfortunately, Jermaine Burton, who on a day

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Speaker 2: there's no Jamar Chase, your third round pick, the eightieth

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Speaker 2: pickoverall a couple of years ago, is inactive, which I

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Speaker 2: think speaks volumes about where Jermaine Burton fits into the

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Speaker 2: grand scheme of things.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, you know, they just don't feel like he's ready yet.

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Speaker 3: You know that that mentally he's he's there. Yet mentally

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Speaker 3: he understands everything that needs needs to understand all the

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Speaker 3: nuances of the offense, particularly at the wide receiver position.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I mean, the relationship between quarterback and

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Speaker 3: has to be like an unbreakable bond. We I'm expecting

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Speaker 3: you to be there when I throw the football. You

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Speaker 3: got to be there. And if you're not there and

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Speaker 3: I suffer an interception or worse, an interception pick six,

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Speaker 3: you know we got problems. We got issues, and you

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Speaker 3: know he's just, uh, he's got work to do, that's

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Speaker 3: for sure.

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Speaker 2: We will take a time out and head down the

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Speaker 2: stretch final segment of our first hour of the first

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Speaker 2: of three big hours. We'll hear from Evan McPherson coming

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Speaker 2: up in our hour. Also, Orlando Brown will talk Joe

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Speaker 2: Burrow and more as we make our way through this

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Speaker 2: Monday night of all things Bengals. Conversation on Bengals Line,

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Speaker 2: we're back on Bengals Line and the Bengals Radio Network

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Speaker 2: on the hour. We'll hear from Jalen Davis later on

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Speaker 2: in the show about his day. But he was part

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Speaker 2: of a blitz and I don't have the numbers in

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Speaker 2: front of me, but it seems like they blitzed more

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Speaker 2: yesterday and it created some things and maybe leads to

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Speaker 2: maybe trying more. There's always you know that you're you'll

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Speaker 2: get burned every once in a while. But seemed to

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Speaker 2: create some problems yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I think Al Golden has started to

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Speaker 3: increase that. I think he feels that confident that the

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Speaker 3: blitz is going to get home. We're going to at

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Speaker 3: least cause problems, yes, And the worst thing that can

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Speaker 3: and everybody gets stoned and there's no pressure and now

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Speaker 3: you're a man short in the back end and it's like,

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Speaker 3: oh no, you gritting your teeth, you close your eyes,

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Speaker 3: and you hope that quarterback doesn't find the right place

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Speaker 3: to throw the football. But I agree, I think Al

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Speaker 3: Golden by nature is an aggressive guy, you know, in

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Speaker 3: terms of his mindset, how he wants to play football defensively,

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Speaker 3: he wants to get after you. He doesn't want to

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Speaker 3: allow you to take it to him.

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Speaker 2: Let's put this hour in the books and let's look

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Speaker 2: forward to our second hour. Evan McPherson and Orlando Brian.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk Joe Flacco's time here, We'll talk Joe Burrows,

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Speaker 2: perhaps return on Thursday night, and here from Jalen Davis.

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Speaker 3: Hey Bengals fans on Fridays, make sure to listen to

875
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,400
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876
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877
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,320
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Speaker 2: Evan McPherson yesterday sixty three yarder for a franchise record,

879
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 2: first Bengal to hit beyond sixty. The previous record was

880
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 2: hit sixty or beyond. The previous record was fifty nine.

881
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: Evan said that in the twenty twenty two opener, and

882
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 2: Kate York forgot about him, almost tied it well, kicking

883
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 2: in his place during the injury and Dave there are

884
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 2: you know, and I'm gonna make the baseball analogy. Tell

885
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 2: me if this makes sense. There's that saying with guys

886
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 2: like Aaron Judge or Albert Poohols in batting practice. The

887
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 2: ball just sounds differently coming off of bat right. I

888
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: think the same could be said coming off the foot

889
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: of Evan McPherson. It is it's really something to behold.

890
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 3: It is lace. I mean, you're right on. It's there's

891
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 3: a big, a big analogy there. It's a good one

892
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 3: that you're making. When he hits that thing in warm

893
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 3: ups even it's like bump man. It's a big old

894
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 3: thud and he it does. It catches you if you're

895
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,959
Speaker 3: daydreaming at all, it'll wake you up. There's no question

896
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 3: about that. And the thing about him is his legs strength,

897
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 3: it's it's twofold. He can kick for distance. I mean,

898
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 3: he can drill the heck out of the football. And

899
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 3: he hits the ball when I watch him, watch him

900
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 3: a little bit during practices and on the sideline even

901
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 3: you know, before game pregame. He hits more toward the

902
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 3: middle of the football than down in that lower portion

903
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 3: of the football. And of course the ball is you know, oblong,

904
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 3: it's a sphere shaped type thing, and he hits it

905
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 3: where there's a little bit more leather and a little

906
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 3: bit more air. You know, he puts a good pounding

907
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 3: on that football. The other thing where he hits it.

908
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 3: It amazes me how quickly he gets elevation, how high

909
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 3: he gets the football. You know, usually if you hit

910
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 3: the thing, the lower you hit it toward the tip

911
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 3: the point of the football, the more elevation you're going

912
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 3: to get. This guy breaks that rule. Man, He hits

913
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 3: it more toward the middle of the football and still

914
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 3: gets airborne about as quickly as anybody I've ever seen.

915
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Speaker 2: Let's hear from Muddy Mack. Here's Evan after the game yesterday.

916
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 4: Evan Pearson made team history today with a sixty three

917
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 4: yard field goal. It was the exact set of circumstances

918
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Speaker 4: that you've talked about before forgetting an opportunity like that.

919
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 4: And I don't play of the half sixty plus let

920
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 4: a rip.

921
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Speaker 5: From sixty three.

922
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Speaker 14: Yeah, you know, I felt like I felt like we

923
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 14: had a good chance to get a shot there at

924
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 14: the end of the half.

925
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Speaker 9: And you never You're never out of it.

926
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Speaker 14: And that's kind of what I learned throughout the years

927
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Speaker 14: is never take time off, never let your mind wander,

928
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 14: because in a blink of an eye, you can be

929
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Speaker 14: thrown out there for a long field.

930
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Speaker 8: Goal at the end of the half.

931
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Speaker 14: And so I think we did a good job stand

932
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 14: in the game and not just looking the foard to halftime,

933
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 14: and we executed really well snap hold kick.

934
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Speaker 9: Everybody blocked really well.

935
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Speaker 14: And yeah, you know, it's just a lot of fun

936
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 14: to get to go out there and attempt those and

937
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 14: I'm just really happy that this one worked out for us.

938
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Speaker 4: There aren't that many members at the sixty yard club

939
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 4: in the NFL.

940
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 5: Maybe all does, and I don't know, but it's not

941
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 5: a huge list.

942
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 4: How significant is it to have that one extra yard

943
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 4: from your previous long of fifty nine?

944
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I've always thought about it.

945
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 14: It would be cool to get one on the other

946
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 14: side of the field one day. And you know, I'm

947
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 14: just blessed if you putting that situation, that opportunity, that

948
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 14: coach just trust me to go out there and make it.

949
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Speaker 14: And I'm just glad that, you know, they have that.

950
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Speaker 9: Trust in me.

951
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 4: A little extra special after the sixty seven yarder that

952
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 4: was good but didn't count at Green Bank.

953
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, you know, I always enjoy like I feel

954
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 14: like my rookieyar. I enjoyed the fifty plus attempts and

955
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 14: now it's kind of switched to like sixty plus. It

956
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 14: is a lot of fun just go out there and

957
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 14: swing away and kind of see what happens. And I

958
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 14: feel like when we go out there, we're looked at

959
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 14: to make those kicks, and so you know, I felt

960
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 14: confident going into it, and with how we've been hitting

961
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 14: it in practice and the operation and how everything's going,

962
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Speaker 14: so it felt good run out would feel for that one.

963
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 4: The NFL record is sixty eight. Now yeah, how long

964
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 4: would that have been good from? But the way you

965
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 4: struck that ball, man, I don't we needed the track man.

966
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 4: You know how they used to have to set up

967
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 4: good from.

968
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 5: I'm not sure.

969
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 3: I think maybe you got.

970
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 2: Another five on it or so.

971
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,919
Speaker 14: It's hard to really tell, but uh, i'd say maybe

972
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 14: about another five.

973
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 5: I think you're right. The rights on the record, thank

974
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 5: you is that you would as you can hit the ball. Yeah,

975
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 5: I hit that one pretty cool.

976
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Speaker 14: Yeah, it's probably the best hit of the day, I

977
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 14: would say, but yeah, that was kind of like the

978
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 14: perfect perfect and it all be the show.

979
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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, good reference.

980
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 11: They had you up on the big book on the

981
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Speaker 11: video board after they announced the record.

982
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 8: Were you aware it was a record?

983
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 14: Yeah, I know. I mean we hit the fifty nine

984
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Speaker 14: yarder in my second year and that was the record,

985
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 14: and them Kaide came in last year and tied it,

986
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 14: and I just I was aware that the record was

987
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 14: fifty nine and now we just kind of keep from

988
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 14: the back.

989
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 12: I guess because there's something magical about.

990
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 14: Sixty magical backseat. I mean, it just feels good, honestly,

991
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 14: it feels good to get one on the other side

992
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 14: of the field, and I think it's impressive when other

993
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 14: guys do it. So I'm just happy that I could

994
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,919
Speaker 14: go out there and do it as well fourteenth time

995
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 14: in NFL history.

996
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 8: From that far away there you go.

997
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 9: From sixty three or just sixty four, the sixty three

998
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 9: all right, you had Tom Dempsey that he was he was.

999
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 3: The first one.

1000
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 12: Is sixty three auted from the record exactly?

1001
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, so long before you were born.

1002
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 6: That was very correct.

1003
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 15: Yeah, it has been surpassed, but I mean for a

1004
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 15: long time, sixty three is kind of the white whale

1005
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 15: that was the I'm sure when you were growing up

1006
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 15: that was the mark.

1007
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 9: Is that meaningful, the sixty three in of itself?

1008
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 14: Yeah, No, I mean it's very meaningful because I mean

1009
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 14: as a kid going through college and high school, like

1010
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 14: you always dream of those situations and you know, I

1011
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 14: mean I hit the sixty yarder like in high school

1012
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 14: and had the state record for a little bit until

1013
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 14: my little brother broke it. But uh, you always dream

1014
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 14: of the type of situations just to kind of keep

1015
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 14: the energy up going to the halftime, you know, get

1016
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 14: the team rolling a little bit. And I was just

1017
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 14: I just be really excited to get that opportunity.

1018
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 9: Did you uh knew he was a record?

1019
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 12: Did you talk about it with Kate when he tied it?

1020
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 5: Did you guys talk about that?

1021
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1022
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,479
Speaker 14: I think I gave him a little bit of grief

1023
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 14: about it, and like he come in for a few

1024
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 14: weeks and he tied my my franchise record. But uh no,

1025
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 14: you know, in the moment, obviously happy for him because

1026
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 14: you know, I don't rid against any kickers anytime, and

1027
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 14: I just want everybody to to out there succeed and

1028
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 14: if that kick game another opportunity on a team, you know,

1029
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 14: I'd be happy for him.

1030
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 4: So but uh.

1031
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 12: After it was all the other guy with the other guy, Yeah.

1032
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 14: He was just saying obviously congrats, and I think he

1033
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 14: topped my kick for sure with that last one that

1034
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 14: he had. I think that that last kick that he

1035
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 14: had tops my why kick of the half just the

1036
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 14: the point in the game obviously made a sick point,

1037
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 14: gave me a touchdown. We couldn't just go down there

1038
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 14: and kick a long field goal to tight and send

1039
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 14: it overtime. So I think I think Andy got us

1040
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,240
Speaker 14: right there at the end, and that was really impressive

1041
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 14: kick by him.

1042
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 3: Congratulations, Yeah, thank you.

1043
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 9: You talked about stand ready all the time.

1044
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 15: When when Chase rips off that twenty one yard run,

1045
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 15: is that when the juices really start pumping.

1046
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 14: Like we might have a shot at this, you know,

1047
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 14: it's like, I feel like that's kind of what I

1048
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 14: struggled with as a rookie is there's twenty seconds left

1049
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 14: and into the first half, I'm like, oh, there's no

1050
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 14: way we're gonna kick, and sure enough, you break a

1051
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 14: long pass, break a long run, and you're up. So

1052
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 14: I feel like since then, it's just kind of you

1053
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 14: never take a down off. You know, anything can happen,

1054
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 14: especially with this offense.

1055
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 15: So you said best kick of the day, Does that

1056
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 15: include warm ups because you were blasting enough from Yeah, I.

1057
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 9: Would say so.

1058
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 14: I think I hit that one probably the cleanest out

1059
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 14: of any ball all day, and I was hitting it

1060
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 14: pretty well.

1061
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 5: You know.

1062
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 14: I was happy with the first field goal and the

1063
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 14: extra points. I thought I hit him well and definitely

1064
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 14: hit the six three.

1065
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 15: You hit the up right from sixty and warm ups,

1066
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 15: it looked like that one would have beener from seventy.

1067
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 9: It was way up on right.

1068
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 14: Yep, yeah, going the same way.

1069
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Speaker 8: Yeah.

1070
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Speaker 9: So we had a good feeling, like through pregame of

1071
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 9: what our range was.

1072
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Speaker 2: Evan after the record setting day, he matched the legendary

1073
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 2: Tom Dempsey with a sixty three. A last there's a

1074
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 2: name blast from the past. No fun intended fourteenth time

1075
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 2: in NFL history a kicker has hit from sixty or beyond.

1076
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: The Dempsey record stood for forty three years. Wow, Matt

1077
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 2: Prater got to sixty four yards in twenty thirteen. The

1078
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 2: record sixty eight by Cam Little just three weeks ago.

1079
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 2: And the way the kicking game is going, somebody may

1080
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 2: get yesterday. The way it looked, Evans kick had another

1081
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 2: four or five yards beyond that, somebody may get Cam

1082
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,879
Speaker 2: Little sixty eight yards before the season's over.

1083
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 3: I agree with you, Lance, I mean when he hit

1084
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 3: that field goal, when it hit the net, it was

1085
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 3: halfway up the net. You know, it wasn't just barely

1086
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 3: over the crossbar. He cleared that bad boy easily, easily.

1087
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 3: So I mean there's more yards left for Evan McPherson

1088
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 3: to gain, that's for sure.

1089
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 2: I had forgotten he hit a sixty earner, he said

1090
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 2: in high school, and had the state record for a

1091
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 2: little bit until his little brother broke his record. So

1092
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 2: clearly the kicking McPherson family the way they booted, and

1093
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Speaker 2: according to the Elias Sports Bureau, McPherson becomes the fourth

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00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: kicker in history to kick a sixty yarder and a

1095
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 2: fifty yarder in the same game. And while we're on it,

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Speaker 2: let's give let's give Darren Simmons some credit. Special Teams

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00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 2: Unit some credit. Evan went through some stages of his

1098
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 2: confidence waivered last year. He had gone through an injury.

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00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 2: They bring in a new long snapper, and it has

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Speaker 2: certainly all come together to work as a well oiled machine.

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00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 2: And he's feeling obviously, Evan is feeling fully confident right now.

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00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. And Darren Simmons is extremely confident in him.

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00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 3: There's no question about that. He just he thinks, you know,

1104
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 3: it's automatic. I mean, it's money. Mack is as out

1105
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 3: of because he's ever been around. And Darren Simmons does

1106
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 3: a hell of a job. I mean, he's the best

1107
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 3: special teams coach the Bengals I've ever had, and I

1108
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 3: think he's the best special teams coach in the NFL

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00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 3: has ever seen. I think he is extraordinary with what

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00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 3: he does. He's kind of on the cutting edge. He's

1111
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 3: at the forefront of everything. He's not always trying to

1112
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 3: catch up. He's always the guy that's like, hey, I

1113
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 3: got something new and different. Let's take a look at

1114
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 3: this and Moneymack and kickers in general, because Darren was

1115
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 3: a kicker himself at the collegiate level, so kickers do

1116
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 3: respond to him, and he knows how to handle kickers.

1117
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 3: He understands the psyche and psychology a kickers.

1118
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 2: And Dave Sitcha, it can't be understated what a weapon

1119
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 2: it is to have somebody like may Peerson, who when

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Speaker 2: you're on a drive and can think, right, if we

1121
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 2: get to you know, the forty, the opponent's forty. I mean,

1122
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 2: yesterday that hole was on the logo. I mean, it

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Speaker 2: just changes if you're Zach you're play calling late in

1124
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 2: games where you looking for field goal range compared to

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00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 2: a lot of other kickers in the NFL.

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00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and in my mind, not just Evan, but all

1127
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 3: the kickers that you referenced, seventy yards is going to

1128
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,439
Speaker 3: happen at some point, somebody's gonna drill a seventy yard

1129
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 3: field goal and it's like, are you kidding me? Shouldn't

1130
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 3: they be turned around kicking the other way? They're kicking

1131
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 3: at the wrong goalpost, aren't they. I mean, it's amazing

1132
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 3: the range that these kickers have. It really is all right.

1133
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Speaker 2: We are up and running in our second hour tonight,

1134
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 2: let's talk a little O line. We'll hear from Orlando

1135
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 2: Brown Junior and more in the day for Chase Brown

1136
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 2: running the football, that is, we continue Bengals line of

1137
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Speaker 2: the Bengals Radio Network and ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1138
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,280
Speaker 2: We're rolling right along on this Monday night talking Bengals

1139
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 2: on the show we call Bengals on Bengals Radio Network

1140
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 2: and ESPN fifteen thirty Alliance. McAllister. He is Dave Lapham.

1141
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 2: We've got plenty to sort through between now and nine

1142
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 2: o'clock tonight. We've worked our way through this Patriots game.

1143
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 2: We'll eventually get to the Baltimore Ravens on Thursday night.

1144
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 2: Let's not leave out the offensive line. Yeah, yesterday Joe

1145
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 2: Flacco sack so one time in thirty eight drop backs.

1146
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 2: On the ground, they rushed for one hundred and twenty

1147
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 2: yards as a team, five point two yards per carry.

1148
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Speaker 2: Here's Orlando Brown after the game.

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Speaker 16: Orlando, obviously, you guys fought really hard, went down to

1150
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 16: the wire. It seems like every game right now it's

1151
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 16: going down to the wire. Come up a bit short.

1152
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 17: Yeah, oh man, It's it's tough, you know, I can't

1153
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 17: say enough great things about the men in here though,

1154
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 17: you know, to continue to come out here day after day,

1155
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 17: week after week and continue to fight no matter what

1156
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 17: the circumstances are. It's unfortunate that, you know, we haven't

1157
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 17: done enough to win some of these games, but.

1158
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Speaker 16: The fight is there when you see the defense do

1159
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 16: what they've done. There's been so much talk, it seems

1160
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 16: back and forth. Earlier this season, it was the offense.

1161
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Speaker 16: You get Flacco in there, the offense picks up, the

1162
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 16: defense flags a bit, and then this week they come up.

1163
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Speaker 16: I think they have nine plays inside the five and

1164
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 16: they don't let the Patriots score. Obviously had the pick

1165
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 16: sixth today that you know, they had another goal line

1166
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 16: stand where they hold them to a field goal to

1167
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 16: keep it a one possession game. Just their fight and

1168
00:50:58,719 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 16: what you saw.

1169
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Speaker 17: Yeah, no, man, I think it's always important to keep

1170
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 17: perspective when we talk about ball, and you know, offensively,

1171
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 17: you know, obviously we've got a ton of notoriety because

1172
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 17: of the superstars on our side of the field, but

1173
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 17: our defensive guys come in and they work hard. You know,

1174
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 17: coach coach Al and his staff man they work hard.

1175
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 17: You know, they they love the game, and you know,

1176
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 17: I'm so happy that they were able to come out

1177
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 17: here today and make the plays that they made, especially

1178
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 17: during that goal line red zone situation. Man, it's it's

1179
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 17: always hard on the defense to do that, and you know,

1180
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 17: it seems like they did it without blinking. And you know, man,

1181
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 17: it's unfortunately we didn't go down to score points after that.

1182
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 3: But you know, man, we we're growing.

1183
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,760
Speaker 9: We're growing, and to me, that's that's really important.

1184
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 16: It's always tough when you don't have Jamar Chase. Of course,

1185
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 16: Joe Flacco figured it out at the end. He was

1186
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 16: starting to get out. You guys are getting into a

1187
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 16: bit of a rhythm. One thing that stood out to

1188
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 16: me Chase Brown average five plus yards to carry, one

1189
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 16: hundred plus yards rushing. You guys have been consistent, it

1190
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 16: seems like running the ball over the past five or

1191
00:51:58,920 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 16: six weeks.

1192
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 17: Yeah, No, we have, man, And that's a testament to

1193
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 17: you know, our our coaches just putting us in great position,

1194
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 17: allowing calling the runs. You know what I mean, chaste,

1195
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 17: making a lot of people miss receivers, blocking man. Running

1196
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 17: the ball is it is a twelve man effort and

1197
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 17: that includes a coach, we don't really to play caller.

1198
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 17: So you know, man, I think all those things have

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Speaker 17: been falling in line for us in that area.

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Speaker 16: It's a short week. How do you rebound and get

1201
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 16: ready for bothim.

1202
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 17: We get some sleep, ready to go kick some masks

1203
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 17: on Thanksgiving. Man, it's my first time playing on Thanksgiving.

1204
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 17: We'll be back in Baltimore against a really good Baltimore team. Man,

1205
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 17: So I'm excited.

1206
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 2: Orlando Brown summon up the afternoon by the O line.

1207
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Speaker 2: What did you make of the performance of the O

1208
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:43,760
Speaker 2: line as a whole, Dave.

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Speaker 3: Well, the numbers you referenced there, Lance averaging five point

1210
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 3: two or carry and give up one quarterback sack against

1211
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 3: a Mike Rabel coach defensive football team. That's pretty damn

1212
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 3: good effort. Yeah, that's a good performance right there. Uh.

1213
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 3: And I thought that the on the on the edges,

1214
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 3: I thought the tackle has played one of their best

1215
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 3: games combined, you know, the tandem, the duo of those

1216
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 3: two guys. I thought Orlando Brown or Marius men has

1217
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 3: played at a pretty high level. I thought that they

1218
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 3: did a good job of keeping Joe Flacco upright and

1219
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 3: allowing him to throw the football and feel confident he

1220
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 3: wasn't going to get hit while he was throwing the football.

1221
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 3: I thought Ted Krris played well inside. You know, he's

1222
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 3: obviously one of the captains of the football team, a

1223
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 3: tremendous leader, and he's going to battle you every single snap.

1224
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 3: And he kept the pocket firm for Joe Flacco to to,

1225
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 3: you know, climb the pocket if need be. And thought

1226
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 3: the young guards, you know, Dylan Fairchild, I thought played

1227
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 3: pretty pretty well. He plays hard man, and you know

1228
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 3: he's he's a powerful kid. I mean, he's he's got

1229
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 3: a bright future in the National Football League. He's going

1230
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 3: to be around a long time. He's not going to

1231
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 3: be a one hit wonder here for a rookie season

1232
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 3: and then gone elsewhere in the National Football League. So overall,

1233
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 3: I thought, probably it was one of the better games,

1234
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 3: if not the best game that they've had collectively as

1235
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 3: an offensive line, particularly when you consider it the the

1236
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 3: defense they played against.

1237
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 2: Chase Brown goes for one hundred and seven on the ground.

1238
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 2: That's five straight games with at least one hundred yards

1239
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 2: of one hundred yards from scrimmage, and Dave I would

1240
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 2: have lost a bet on this. I'm looking this morning

1241
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 2: there as a team averaging four point four yards of carry.

1242
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 2: That would be their best season average on the ground

1243
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,800
Speaker 2: since twenty eighteen, when they averaged four point seven, and

1244
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 2: even our guy Joe Goodbary Bengals on the Brain was

1245
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 2: pointing out it's the most efficient run game of the

1246
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor era. It certainly didn't feel like that early

1247
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 2: in the year, but there's some momentum for how they're

1248
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 2: running the football now.

1249
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think Chase Brown has a lot to

1250
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 3: do with that. I think this kid is the real deal.

1251
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 3: He's you know, they'd list him at five ten, maybe

1252
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 3: they list him at two ten. I think he's a

1253
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 3: little bit more than that. But he has got a

1254
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 3: low center of gravity. He runs extremely hard. He's very

1255
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 3: very physical. He doesn't give you any hitting surface. He

1256
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 3: runs with a body lean, so he really breaks a

1257
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 3: lot of timeckles. He'll avoid contact. He's very quick. I mean,

1258
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 3: in a phone booth, it'd be hard to get a

1259
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 3: finger nail on the guy. And you know, he's a

1260
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 3: great combination. He also runs good routes and catches the football,

1261
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 3: does both of those things exceptionally well. Joe Flaco and

1262
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow love to throw the football to him. When

1263
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 3: they check it down, they know they're going to get

1264
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 3: something out of it. You know it's not going to

1265
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 3: be check it down across your fingers and hope, hope

1266
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 3: and pray so and then the final thing that he

1267
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 3: does that Joe Flacco and Joe Burrow appreciate even more

1268
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 3: so is he'll stick his nose right in the middle

1269
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 3: of the chest of a linebackground blitz pick up. I mean,

1270
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 3: he'll like snap their heads, he'll knock them back. He

1271
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 3: is a football player in every sense of the word.

1272
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny to say it that there's one

1273
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 2: more phase of his game, and I don't know how

1274
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 2: to put it into proper words, but there's so many

1275
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 2: times he will bust a nice run of fifteen twenty

1276
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 2: yards and he's like one one like grab of his

1277
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 2: shoe away from going. I thought yesterday he was going

1278
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 2: for seventy or seventy five to the house on to score.

1279
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 2: But and you think of what it would mean to

1280
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 2: his yarts per carry average after the twenty yard game

1281
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 2: if he just gets past that one last grab of

1282
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 2: his shoe for even more yards.

1283
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 3: Right right, Yeah, he is. He is special. And the

1284
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 3: thing about him. He's never satisfied now. He always wants

1285
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 3: to do more. It's like I could have gotten more

1286
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,919
Speaker 3: out of that run. Boy, I appreciate the quarterback throwing

1287
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,399
Speaker 3: me to the football. I get to get more yards

1288
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,760
Speaker 3: for him after catch. He's that type of a player,

1289
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 3: and you know, and that's a good trait to have.

1290
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 3: Never be content, never be satisfied, always strive for more.

1291
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 2: When we continue, let's talk a little bit more about

1292
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco and what he's brought to this team. If

1293
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,240
Speaker 2: it is in fact Joe Burrow who takes over Thursday

1294
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,720
Speaker 2: night and this is it for Joe Flacco for this season,

1295
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 2: there's a lot of praise to be directed towards Joe

1296
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 2: Flacco for not just what he's done on the field,

1297
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,839
Speaker 2: but I think off the field. Let's spend some time

1298
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 2: on that as we continue with Bengals on It the

1299
00:56:54,120 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 2: Bengals Radio Network at ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Hey,

1300
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 2: let's keep things moving along on this Monday night of

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Speaker 2: Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network in ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: Lance but cant Lester Dave Lapham, Let's talk some more

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Speaker 2: Joe Flaccowe hit don't even heard from him a little

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Speaker 2: bit earlier. We'll hear from him later on in our

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Speaker 2: third hour, and we'll talk Joe Burrow in our next segment,

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Speaker 2: And if Joe returns on Thursday night, maybe it's that's

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Speaker 2: it for Joe Flacco. But Dave, I think he's worthy

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Speaker 2: of a segment of discussion of what he's meant to

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Speaker 2: this franchise. I just I keep going back to. I

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00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 2: know it's cliche to call him a pros pro, but

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Speaker 2: there is such a wise, veteran presence and perspective that

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Speaker 2: he's lent to this team that I think is in

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Speaker 2: hearing all the guys talk week to week on this show.

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Speaker 2: He just sounds different in his view, like looking down

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Speaker 2: on it as a forty year old, right, looking down

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Speaker 2: on everybody, but just looking at it from the biggest

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Speaker 2: picture that anybody has on the team. There's just a

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Speaker 2: unique positive he brings to this team.

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Speaker 3: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 2: I'm struggling to put into proper words, but there's just

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Speaker 2: something about him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he does. He has he has a charisma, you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean, there is there's some kind of a a

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Speaker 3: there's a calm to him. Yeah, oh yeah, Joe Cool

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Speaker 3: and Joe comm. Yeah, Joe borrows Joe Cool, Joe Flacco's

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Speaker 3: Joe comm And I do think those are the two

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks that that'll be the duo, that the tandem next year.

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Speaker 3: And uh and I think Joe Flacco will be okay

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Speaker 3: with that now unless somebody offers him, you know, gobs

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Speaker 3: of money and a starting opportunity. If you're a player

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Speaker 3: in the National Football League, you want to start, you

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Speaker 3: want to be a starting quarterback. But if there's no

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Speaker 3: offers like that out there, Joe flaccol I think that

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Speaker 3: he would be very content being not not content, that's

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Speaker 3: probably the wrong word, but he would appreciate the opportunity

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Speaker 3: to continue to be a part of this organization. He

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Speaker 3: likes this football team a lot. He talks about hanging

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Speaker 3: with the guys and uh and and he that's that's

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Speaker 3: big to him, having that kind of a connection with

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Speaker 3: his teammates. You know, it's playing sports is a unique

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Speaker 3: thing in in that way in terms of bonding with

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Speaker 3: other human beings, bonding with other people, and at the

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Speaker 3: professional level, it's the most unique. I mean, it's crazy.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 3: And to get an opportunity to do it is something

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Speaker 3: that I'll always treasure, There's no question about that. And

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Speaker 3: then to do it for for ten years. I was

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Speaker 3: fortunate enough to do that.

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Speaker 5: And and.

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Speaker 3: You just you look back on players and you have reunions.

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Speaker 3: You know, you'll get together with teammates five, ten, twenty

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Speaker 3: five years down the road. And Joe Flacco seems to

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Speaker 3: be that kind of guy where he'll he'll want to

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Speaker 3: talk to teammates about what they're doing with their lives

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Speaker 3: and how their lives have gone. And uh, Flaco, he's

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Speaker 3: got five kids, man, he and his wife five young children,

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Speaker 3: so he's got a lot on his plate and and

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Speaker 3: he handles it oh so well. And he's a great

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Speaker 3: example for young players to understand how to be a

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Speaker 3: pros pro. Like you say, do everything you need to

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Speaker 3: get ready to play at the highest level you possibly

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Speaker 3: can on a weekly basis, as well as take care

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Speaker 3: of your family. That's a that's a big burden, that's

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Speaker 3: a big task, and Flacco does pretty flawlessly, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think the example part is such a

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Speaker 2: good thing. And I've heard people say and it's weird

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Speaker 2: sometimes because there's so much love and support for Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes it's taken if you say something positive about Flacco,

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Speaker 2: it's meant as a negative Joe. That's that has nothing

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Speaker 2: to out of that. It's two separate worlds. Joe Flacco

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Speaker 2: can be a great example for how he handles himself

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Speaker 2: in news, the press conferences, in the locker room, and

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Speaker 2: in the game and on the sidelines. That has nothing

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Speaker 2: to do with Joe Burrow. It's just Joe's just very

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Speaker 2: good at that at the whole package. Whether and I'm

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Speaker 2: trying to remember the example now of the moment where

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Speaker 2: it was Yoshi, after Yoshi had had the game with

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Speaker 2: a couple of drops. Yoshi related that that Joe went

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Speaker 2: to him and talked to him after the game and

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Speaker 2: let you know, hang in the you know, paraphrasing, hang

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Speaker 2: in there. You know everybody has days like that. That's

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Speaker 2: part of the quality that makes Joe Flacco valuable to

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Speaker 2: a football team.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's the stuff that Joe Burrow could learn

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Speaker 3: from him, and not that Joe Burrow doesn't do it already.

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow, his teammates said that Joe Burrow is great.

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Speaker 3: You know, when you make a crucial mistake that hurts

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Speaker 3: the football team. Joe's Borrow's the first one over there. Hey,

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Speaker 3: forget about it. Let's you know, don't let one bad

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Speaker 3: play turn it to do uh, let's move on from

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Speaker 3: the mistakes and let's go get it done. Let's go

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Speaker 3: win a football game. And that's what Paul Brown was

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Speaker 3: all about, you know, don't let those kind of things linger.

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Speaker 3: And uh and and I and I think Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 3: That's why I think those two is a duo. There's

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Speaker 3: a lot to uh, you know, a lot to be

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Speaker 3: gained by uh, by the two Joe's Joe common, Joe

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Speaker 3: cool as as a tandement as a duo, and they

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Speaker 3: can learn from each other. I mean, Joe Burrow. When

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Speaker 3: Joe Flacco comes off the field, Joe Burrow is the

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Speaker 3: first one there to give him a nugget, you know.

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Speaker 3: And I'm sure Flacco really appreciates it. I'm sure he

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Speaker 3: takes it in the right way. And he's going to

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Speaker 3: be able to do that for Joe Burrow as well

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Speaker 3: when Joe Burrow is back and playing for the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 3: And I think I think Joe's looking forward to and

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Speaker 3: I think both quarterbacks enjoy that part of it.

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Speaker 2: I think if there's there's so many different Joe Flacco

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Speaker 2: moments I'm going to take from this season, but yesterday's

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Speaker 2: the latest. We're talking about a forty year old quarterback

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Speaker 2: who's dealing with at least something in his shoulder, who

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Speaker 2: dislocates his finger, who leaves for one play, who comes

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Speaker 2: back and then throws just one of the prettiest passes

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Speaker 2: in the corner of the end zone to Tinsley, And

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Speaker 2: I'm like, Joe, that would look at that. Look what

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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco just did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, there's only only a few people walking

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Speaker 3: planet Earth that can do that man, and Joe Flacco

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Speaker 3: he's definitely one of them. He throws it beautiful.

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Speaker 2: And Dave had I said when they traded for him.

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Speaker 2: Had We've been sitting here and said, all right, let's

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Speaker 2: say he quarterbacks for the next six games. How about

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Speaker 2: if he completes sixty two percent of it, passes thirteen

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Speaker 2: touchdowns to only four interceptions. We would have thought, WHOA,

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Speaker 2: You're gonna get all of that from the forty year

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Speaker 2: old Joe Flack who just joined this team. And they

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Speaker 2: have and I know it's a bottom line business, and

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01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 2: people say they only won one game with him, it's

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Speaker 2: a team game, and he carried himself so well and

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Speaker 2: put up numbers to go with it. I know he

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01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 2: had took a sack that took him out of a

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Speaker 2: field goal range yesterday and threw a pick six. He

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Speaker 2: hasn't been perfect, but man, what he's added to this team.

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Speaker 2: It's a pretty nice pickup for a trade midweek for

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Speaker 2: a six round.

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Speaker 3: Pick, no question about it. What it would go down

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Speaker 3: as one of the one of the better trades in

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Speaker 3: franchise history, quite honestly. And when you have a quarterback

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Speaker 3: rating in ninety one point four at any age, I'm

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Speaker 3: not talking about you know, forty years old. That's unbelievable

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01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 3: at forty years old, but a quarterback rating in ninety

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Speaker 3: one point four is getting it done. And like you said,

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Speaker 3: the touchdown to interception ratio better than three to one,

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01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 3: and you know that, and any quarterback I know Kenny

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01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 3: Anderson would always want to be at least two to one,

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01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 3: and a lot of times he was three to one

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01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 3: or better. But that's that's what you're looking for. You're

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Speaker 3: looking for helping the football team as many times as

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01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 3: you can and not hurting the football team as many

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01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 3: times as you can.

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Speaker 2: I would imagine over the years, final thought on the

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Speaker 2: dislocation of the finger, and it was back in place,

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01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 2: and he goes in and through it. I would imagine

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Speaker 2: you dislocated a finger or two and you're.

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Speaker 3: Yees, absolutely think I think all told, I think I

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01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 3: dislocated four the ten. So yeah, popped him. The quicker

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Speaker 3: you pop him back in though, I can tell you

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01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 3: this from experience. So quicker you pop back in, the

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01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 3: less swelling you get, and less disfigureing you get, so

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01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 3: and you know, and you can get some ice on

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Speaker 3: it right away after the game. I'm sure I said.

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Speaker 3: In fact, I saw him before I came in here

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Speaker 3: to work, to work together with you, and I think

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Speaker 3: he was going in to get some treatment and make

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Speaker 3: sure that he's ready to rock and roll, because he

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Speaker 3: threw the ball really well. I mean that ball came

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Speaker 3: off his hand pretty darn well. I think most of

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01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 3: the time it was going where he wanted it.

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Speaker 2: To take a time out to come back from one

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Speaker 2: quarterback to the other. Let's talk about Joe Burrow in

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Speaker 2: the potential return or all signs pointing to his return

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Speaker 2: on Thursday night. He is Dave Lapham. I'm Lance Pacalister.

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Speaker 2: It's Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network in seven

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01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 2: hundred WLW. Hey, welcome back to Bengals Line in this

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Speaker 2: Monday night. Thanks for hanging out and tagging along with

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01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 2: us as we talk Bengals football each and every Monday

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01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 2: night for three rock solid hours. We're making our way

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01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 2: through yesterday's twenty six twenty loss to the Patriots. We'll

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01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 2: get to those Baltimore Ravens as well. Lance Pacalister, along

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01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 2: with Dave Lapham and Dave from one quarterback to the other,

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01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco to Joe Burrow. And would be fair to

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01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 2: say all signs are pointing to the return of Joe

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01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 2: Burrow on Thursday night.

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Speaker 3: I would say so, Lance, I would think so. And

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01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 3: I know the biggest driver of that is Joe Burrow himself.

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01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:57,919
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow is like enough is enough. I can't take

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01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 3: it anymore, you know, I just absolutely despise watching my

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01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 3: football team that I should be quarterbacking for. Uh go

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01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 3: to war without me, go to battle? So I do. I.

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01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 3: I think I think Joe Burrow will be at the

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01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 3: quarterback position and I think it'll give give the entire

1492
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 3: you know, franchise a boost, a lift Uh in the offense. Uh,

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01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 3: I know we'll we'll feel that. And I know for

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01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 3: a fact the offensive line will. He's tight with those guys.

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01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 3: He takes care of those guys. Uh. They they want

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01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 3: to they want to make sure they take care of

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01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 3: him and keep him safe and upright.

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Speaker 2: He he's been through a lot, He's rehabbed his tail

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01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 2: off to.

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Speaker 3: Get to this point.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 2: The the the debate among fans is why, why with

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01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 2: the record the way it is, would you risk Joe Burrow?

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01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:50,440
Speaker 2: And I'll go back to it. I'll defer to what

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01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 2: Zach said. After the game, winning is important, and they

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01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 2: may be three and eight and there may only be

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01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 2: six games left and the chances maybe minuscule of making

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01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:06,959
Speaker 2: the playoffs. But I always I fall back on players play,

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01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 2: and if he's healthy, I understand him playing. Can it

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01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 2: be as simple as that that players play? Is there

1511
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 2: is there any argument to be made where the record

1512
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 2: is would mean he shouldn't play. I just can't subscribe

1513
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 2: to that.

1514
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 3: No, I'm in total concert with you. I mean, if

1515
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 3: he's able to play, he will play. Biggest reason because

1516
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 3: he wants to play. Desperately wants to play football. He

1517
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 3: gets paid handsomely to play the game of football. And

1518
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 3: you know, he knows that the Cincinnati Bengals are a

1519
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 3: better football team when he's out there playing the quarterback position.

1520
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 3: So he wants to get out there and make the

1521
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 3: team hole again. And if you know, if you string

1522
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 3: together a few wins, man the difference between nine and

1523
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 3: eight and eight nine could be man a legitimate outside

1524
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 3: shot at the playoffs as opposed to no shot at

1525
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 3: the playoffs. So I think Joe Burrow, for many reasons,

1526
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 3: some that we just talked about, wants to play as

1527
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 3: many games as he possibly can.

1528
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and oh here, I hear this refrain a lot

1529
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 2: from people. They should they should tank and get a

1530
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:20,599
Speaker 2: better draft pick. And I always say, I haven't played

1531
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 2: the game obviously, but I always say, how do you

1532
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 2: think that would play out? If you want a team

1533
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 2: to tank?

1534
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 3: What is that?

1535
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 2: How do you tell a team to tank? No player

1536
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:31,720
Speaker 2: is not gonna want to play hard. You can't say

1537
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:33,839
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I'm gonna play all the backups

1538
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 2: and not play any of the starters because we're gonna

1539
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 2: secretly tank. It just it drives me when people say

1540
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 2: it like it's something so easily executed and understood by

1541
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 2: the actual players who would be told or not told,

1542
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 2: you're gonna be part of a tank.

1543
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, there'd be a revolution. I mean, you know, the players,

1544
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 3: they're be an uprising. The players would be like, I

1545
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 3: don't want to be part of that, and I'm gonna

1546
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 3: go public about it. I'm gonna I'm gonna tell everybody

1547
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 3: that I know and uh and get on the get

1548
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 3: on my microphone and tell people that you know, Hey,

1549
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 3: they want us to lose football games. No, you want

1550
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:07,799
Speaker 3: to You're you're making money. You're you're you're a professional.

1551
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 3: You're paid to play. You're not paid to lose. You're

1552
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:14,600
Speaker 3: paid to win football games. You go out there, you

1553
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 3: suck it up.

1554
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 2: Uh.

1555
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 3: If you if you nicked up, dinged up, you suck

1556
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 3: it up and you go try to win a football game.

1557
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 3: And that's uh, that's why you're gonna be invited back

1558
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 3: the following year. If you don't do that, you're not

1559
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 3: gonna be around the National Football League very long.

1560
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 2: There's also the idea of if if you were to

1561
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 2: tell Joe, no, we're not going to play even though

1562
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:36,640
Speaker 2: you're completely healthy, I would think everybody else in the

1563
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,599
Speaker 2: locker room who's dealing with something a shoulder, a knee,

1564
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 2: an ankle, who's not feeling very good, Like, what about me?

1565
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:44,679
Speaker 2: My thought would be, well, wait a minute, you're completely

1566
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 2: healthy and they're not going to play you. But I'm

1567
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 2: like barely hanging on here, strapped together with duct tape,

1568
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 2: with injuries, and I have to go out and play.

1569
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 2: The optics just don't work.

1570
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm sure that's happened around the league, and

1571
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 3: I'm sure it's caused problems. It's caused issues. I mean,

1572
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 3: it could lead to fish. It's the cuffs, man. I mean,

1573
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 3: you know, it's like these guys are prideful and uh,

1574
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 3: you know, the the only way that you're evaluated, uh

1575
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 3: is wins and losses. That's the bottom line. It's like that,

1576
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 3: that's what you're all about. When you, uh, when you

1577
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 3: reflect back in your career, you know, you go back, Okay, well,

1578
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 3: jeezs in the seventies, oh man, we were eleven to three.

1579
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 3: That was a hell of a football team. Man. We

1580
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 3: had a good run. We had great players. What what

1581
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 3: a what a year that was? Oh two and fourteen,

1582
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 3: Oh Jesus, that was that was horsepucky man. I mean,

1583
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 3: it's just I can't I can't believe that that we

1584
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 3: played as poorly as we played. They never saw that coming.

1585
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 3: That that that's a total shock and embarrassment and we

1586
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 3: were embarrassment and embarrassment to the entire city.

1587
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 2: One final thought, and this would be perfect for you

1588
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 2: and I get this A lot the the fan thought of, well,

1589
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco doesn't get sacked as much because he just

1590
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 2: gets rid of the ball, and Joe Burrow should do that.

1591
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 2: We know Joe is about extending plays and trying to

1592
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 2: create something. Can you is there anything to be drawn

1593
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:01,680
Speaker 2: from all this? Or or say, did Joe like, hey,

1594
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:05,560
Speaker 2: maybe try to get throw it away earlier? Can you

1595
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 2: do that? Or Joe six years into his career? Is

1596
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:09,679
Speaker 2: is Joe the quarterback?

1597
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 5: He is?

1598
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 2: And you can't change him? Should you try to change him?

1599
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 2: What do you make of all that?

1600
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:18,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's there's a lot, yeah, but but

1601
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 3: the bottom line is, you know, you can't really change

1602
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 3: the way the quarterback wants to play the football game.

1603
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:28,560
Speaker 3: And Joe, Joe Flacco is not you know, flee to

1604
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 3: foot now, He's not you know, he's not a stiff.

1605
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 3: It's not like he can't move. He moves pretty well.

1606
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 3: And he'll climb the pocket and he'll go side to

1607
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 3: side and he'll throw the football well. Uh, Joe Burrow, though,

1608
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 3: when you get him out of pocket, he's a threat.

1609
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 3: When he tucks it, he's a threat.

1610
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:43,640
Speaker 8: You know.

1611
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 3: He'll probably run like four or five, you know, and

1612
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 3: in that range. I'm not sure what he ran coming

1613
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 3: out of college, but I bet he runs every bit

1614
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 3: as well as that now, maybe even a little bit better.

1615
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 8: So.

1616
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:57,600
Speaker 2: And everybody who says that Joe Burrow should give up

1617
01:11:57,640 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 2: on a play and just throw it away, they're the

1618
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 2: same people who praised him when he extended to play

1619
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:04,600
Speaker 2: and was stepping up in the pocketing diving ahead like

1620
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 2: Superman and throwing the ball into the endzone for a touchdown.

1621
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 2: They say, what a play that he extended and made

1622
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 2: something of. And that's how a lot of plays are

1623
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 2: made by Joe Burrow extending and buying some extra time

1624
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 2: to get Jamar Chase and opening her tea and opening.

1625
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you what, all the defensive quarters in

1626
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 3: the National Football League would vote to have Joe Burrow

1627
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 3: and not run around anymore. And extending create plays because

1628
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 3: now I was talking to Marvin Lewis about that. He

1629
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 3: did the game for. I can't remember what network hed

1630
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 3: he was working with. He was doing color for the

1631
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 3: football game, and he said, in his mind, that's one

1632
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 3: of the big things that's a separator in Joe Burrow's

1633
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 3: favor And he said, it's a defensive coordinator. It's like

1634
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 3: you can't really scheme for that, you know, That's like

1635
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 3: that's the intangible, that's the variable that it makes Joe

1636
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 3: Burrow special.

1637
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 2: Let's take a time out, head down the stretch, final

1638
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 2: segment of they are here from Jalen Davis on his

1639
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 2: big day yesterday. He's Dave Lapham, Land McAllister Bengals Line,

1640
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 2: Bengals Radio Network and ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1641
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 2: Down the stretch we go in our second of three

1642
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:16,599
Speaker 2: big hours tonight. I Bengals one of the Bengals Radio

1643
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 2: network at ESPN fifteen thirty Lions. But callister Dave Lapham.

1644
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 2: We talked to defense earlier in Jalen Davis and his

1645
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 2: big day. Let's hear from Jalen on the day that

1646
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 2: was against the Patriots.

1647
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 4: Jalen, you moved into the starting line of today. I

1648
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 4: thought you played a great game. How did you feel

1649
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:31,839
Speaker 4: about your performance?

1650
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 13: I feel like I played good, but you know, things

1651
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 13: feel a lot better when you win. So yeah, I

1652
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 13: played good, but we gotta go back to the droboard

1653
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 13: get better.

1654
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 5: On Thursday night, let's talk about what the defense did well.

1655
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:46,479
Speaker 4: You held their offense to nineteen points, they scored a

1656
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 4: defensive touchdown. That's two weeks in a row now where

1657
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 4: it's been twenty or less. Do you see significant progress

1658
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 4: on the defensive side.

1659
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 5: Of the ball.

1660
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 13: Oh, I feel like we've been actually getting better every

1661
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 13: every week. We may getting better, but like I said,

1662
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 13: we still got a so much more to improve. So

1663
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 13: we all just gotta, like I said, get back to

1664
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:06,600
Speaker 13: the von board, look all the mistakes, and just do

1665
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 13: better than.

1666
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 4: It seemed like the one thing the Patriots did that

1667
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 4: hurts you guys was find their kite ends over the

1668
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 4: middle of the field. Anything stand out from your perspective

1669
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 4: on those plays?

1670
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:19,680
Speaker 12: Not that I can say right now.

1671
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 13: I just have to look at the film again and

1672
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 13: then go from there.

1673
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 4: Got to pick six defensive score from Geno Stone and

1674
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 4: gave the team a ten to nothing lead.

1675
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 5: What was your view of that play.

1676
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 9: Oh, it was turned up.

1677
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 12: You know what I'm saying, Boy, gotta pick six. There's

1678
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 12: none better than that.

1679
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 13: But like I said, we just gotta keep their foot

1680
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 13: on the next and don't let them in the next

1681
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 13: lether time.

1682
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:41,560
Speaker 4: Guys gotta stop late in the game to give the

1683
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 4: offensive chance to pull it out. I mean, the Patriots

1684
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 4: did score three, but they weren't able to score a

1685
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 4: touchdown to pull away. Is that progress because there have

1686
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 4: been some games this year where you needed to get

1687
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:53,560
Speaker 4: that stop late and couldn't quite do it.

1688
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,599
Speaker 13: Proads for sure, but that's not the standard, the standards

1689
01:14:57,680 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 13: to not even give up three. So, like I said,

1690
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 13: gotta go back to the dramare and just get better,

1691
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 13: get better.

1692
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 5: How much did you enjoy having this opportunity today?

1693
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 13: I met everything so mean, man, I ain't been out

1694
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 13: there in a very long time, so I appreciate my

1695
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 13: brother's always holding me down.

1696
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1697
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 5: Jalen, congrats and a great game.

1698
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 9: Appreciate it.

1699
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:18,599
Speaker 5: That's Jalen Davis.

1700
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 2: Jayalen Davis on his Afternoon We mentioned it earlier, taking

1701
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:25,559
Speaker 2: advantage of our opportunities promoted from the practice squad plugged

1702
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 2: in and results that'll that'll give him some confidence and

1703
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 2: continue to give coaches confidence. At eight, he's earned some

1704
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 2: more opportunities.

1705
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 3: Absolutely. I mean, you see a guy that his path

1706
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:39,600
Speaker 3: to the National Football League was a difficult one. You know,

1707
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 3: he wasn't the star you know at every level. Oh,

1708
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 3: I shouldn't say that. He was probably hell of a

1709
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 3: player at high school, college levels, but you know, the

1710
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 3: superstar kind of guy, the immediate Hall of Fame or

1711
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 3: the Pro Bowl kind of guy. He's not that type

1712
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 3: of player. But when the coaches put him out there

1713
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 3: and he makes plays, they start to gain confidence in him,

1714
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 3: and he starts to gain confidence. It's in his own

1715
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:02,679
Speaker 3: ability to go out. It's like I knew I could

1716
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 3: do this at the NFL level. I just needed a shot.

1717
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 3: I needed an opportunity. I needed somebody to give me

1718
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 3: the chance. And the Cincinnati Bengals organization and Al Golden

1719
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 3: they're giving me the chance. They're giving the opportunity, and

1720
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 3: they're rewarding me. So I'm going to reward them.

1721
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:20,719
Speaker 2: Two hours in the books, Hang Tight. More from Zach Taylor,

1722
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 2: more from Joe Flacco. We'll hear fun facts with Dylan Fairchaw.

1723
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 2: Look at those Baltimore Ravens and more. Bengals Line on

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Speaker 2: Twenty six twenty the final Yesterday the Baltimore Ravens. Next

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Speaker 2: up on Thursday. Here's Zach after the game on what

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Speaker 2: transpired and what's ahead on Thursday night.

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Speaker 8: Fight.

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01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 6: Well, the fight, I mean, it is what it is.

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01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:36,559
Speaker 6: We're we don't we want to we don't appreciate losing.

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01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 6: It's it's an awful feeling, sick. But our guys they

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01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 6: just keep showing up. Man, they keep they keep doing

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01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 6: a great job during the course of the week, keep

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01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:51,600
Speaker 6: practicing their tails off. They're giving everything they can on

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01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 6: the field. We just came up short. You saw a

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01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 6: different gait. You saw guys that have played all year force.

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01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 6: You said, guys that came in there and got their

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01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 6: first opportunities, Guys that came in there on a one

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01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 6: play notice, and guys kept fighting, and we thought we

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01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 6: were gonna win the game, and we came up short.

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Speaker 6: And it's it's a sickening feeling. We can't question the

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01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 6: fight for one second, and at some point that's gonna

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Speaker 6: pay off for us.

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Speaker 18: So to your decision as to why Joe burrow.

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Speaker 6: Him to start, we'll see. I'm not going to declare

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01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 6: anything for Thursday, yet, I thought he put himself in

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01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 6: a great position to be ready to play this weekend,

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01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 6: and the best decision for us was was to wait

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Speaker 6: a couple more days. How's tea, Zach, He's in concussion

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01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 6: protocol t Taj Taj Brooks, Marker got a hamstring and

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01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 6: Flacco had a issue with his finger on staring.

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Speaker 8: Hand dislocated, popped back in.

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Speaker 6: I don't remember that's what That's what it sounded like

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01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:45,639
Speaker 6: at the time. I can't remember what the trainer storm.

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Speaker 6: How do you feel like he played overall to FO Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I think he continues to just fight for us, man

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01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:54,640
Speaker 6: and give us a chance and him and him and

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01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 6: a lot of other guys in all three phases today,

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Speaker 6: I thought he just kept fighting for us and he

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01:18:57,880 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 6: gave us chance to at the end of the game.

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Speaker 6: He plays through a lot of pa and just keeps

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01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:04,519
Speaker 6: keeps giving us a chance to win. We just we

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01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 6: just haven't able to do as team yet. What did

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01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:09,560
Speaker 6: you see defensively from alcol They felt like crazy. I

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01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 6: mean they a lot of different ways. They didn't didn't

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01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 6: allow things to be easy for New England, kept finding

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Speaker 6: them in the goal line stands. I think representing who

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01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 6: these guys are right now, just just keep coming back.

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01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 6: Got a penalty first and goal on the one. Kept

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01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 6: fighting got to stop and there's a lot of trust,

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Speaker 6: you know when they keep playing that way. You know,

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01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 6: I factor then the fourth and one. You know, we

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01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:33,760
Speaker 6: didn't go for fourth and one kind of in our

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01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 6: own field position. I think we're on the minus forty,

1789
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 6: and like we could pin them down in there and

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Speaker 6: get a stop and get the ball back right where

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01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 6: we just kicked it from. And so again, I thought

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01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 6: those guys fought for us, got to turn over a

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Speaker 6: pick six, gave us some moment ium early in the game,

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01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 6: and just keep leaving those guys. They're gonna keep fighting

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Speaker 6: for us and finding away.

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Speaker 12: In the game.

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Speaker 8: You're out there trying to come back. No Jamar, no Ti, no,

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Speaker 8: no Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 11: Obviously, I mean, how does that challenge as it change

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Speaker 11: the way you approached the call?

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Speaker 8: How you do a driveway?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, just a lot of credit to those guys out there,

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01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 6: because those personnel groupings aren't things that we've ever operated

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01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 6: out of before. And so guys just understand what position

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01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 6: they're playing, who's in the game, Concepts that most of

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01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 6: those guys have not worked all week, at least at

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01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:16,560
Speaker 6: the position they were probably playing. At the end of

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01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 6: the game, I thought the coaches did a great job

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Speaker 6: on the sidelines, the position coaches getting trying to cover

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Speaker 6: every base. I mean, we have to cover the last

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01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:24,599
Speaker 6: plays on the move there AND's had the thirty yard

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Speaker 6: line with guys that none of those guys have been

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Speaker 6: in that position before, and so you still felt we

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Speaker 6: were going to find a way. I mean, he's he

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01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 6: takes an alert to Niche for a touchdown, you know,

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01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:37,639
Speaker 6: and that's that's the kind of game it was where

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01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 6: guys just kept stepping up and you kept believing that

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Speaker 6: that eventually we're going to find a way to win it.

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Speaker 6: And just came up Cobo short.

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Speaker 3: Oh what do you feel like kept the passing gave him?

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Speaker 6: I think you got to give credits a New England.

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Speaker 6: First of all, they're a well coached group. They play hard,

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01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 6: they keep trying to keep you off balanced as much

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01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:57,280
Speaker 6: as they can, so you got to give them credit.

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Speaker 6: And you know, there was some opportunit. I felt like

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01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:01,720
Speaker 6: there was a drive there in the second quarter. Some

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01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 6: penalties just just bid us where I felt like we're

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01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 6: getting some good momentum and then ended up having a punt.

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Speaker 6: So just I don't think there's one thing you can

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01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 6: put your finger on that that limited a rhythm. I

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01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 6: do think you got to give a New England a

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01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 6: lot of credit for that, and we just got to

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01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 6: find a way to do a better job on the

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Speaker 6: other side.

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Speaker 8: What you see out of Jayalen Davis today, his first

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Speaker 8: game up since.

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Speaker 6: The nothing that surprised me. That's JD. I mean, JD

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01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:27,759
Speaker 6: has had an unbelievable attitude every day he's been this building.

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01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 6: He's a fan favorite in the locker room because he

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01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 6: just competes. He loves football. He embraces whatever role there's

1841
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 6: a scout team player on the practice, whatever it is,

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01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 6: and then it's his opportunity. Hasn't playing a game all

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01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 6: season and goes out there and and fights like crazy,

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01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 6: you know, and gets a sack and doing a great

1845
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:44,599
Speaker 6: job fit in the run game, draws a holding penalty

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01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:46,640
Speaker 6: on a run play, you know. So there there's a

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01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 6: lot to love about JD. And I thought he stepped

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01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 6: in there and did a nice shout for us, the

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01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:55,200
Speaker 6: same thing I'm just saying, you know, these guys are

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01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 6: they're they're working, it's important to them. They're not giving

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01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 6: up on each other. They keep trying to find a

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01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 6: way to win. Just been in one of those years

1853
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 6: where we just we haven't found a way at the

1854
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 6: end of the game, and that's been frustrating. It's frustrating

1855
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 6: for everybody. But guys aren't losing hope. It's important to

1856
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:14,920
Speaker 6: everybody to just keep at this thing and find a

1857
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:16,639
Speaker 6: way to get someonement hum here. And it's gonna start

1858
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 6: with one win, and we just haven't foind a way

1859
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:20,760
Speaker 6: to get that in a while since that Thursday night game,

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01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 6: and that's disappointing. He is frustrating, his heartbreaking. I feel

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01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:26,200
Speaker 6: for these guys because they're giving us everything that we

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01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:27,720
Speaker 6: ask him to give us during the course of the

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01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 6: week and out there on Sunday, and she just got

1864
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 6: to find a way to win, so we can remember

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Speaker 6: what that feels like.

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Speaker 16: We about Gino still multiple times just for him to

1867
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 16: plan the way he did today.

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Speaker 6: Really excited to see that. You know, it's especially the

1869
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 6: turnover early in the game. Finish it in the end zone,

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01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 6: something we've been talking about like crazy. It's going to

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01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 6: come to us. We got to finish it in the

1872
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:49,600
Speaker 6: end zone. We got to finish through the back of

1873
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:51,719
Speaker 6: the end line. All the things that we've been talking about.

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Speaker 3: He did.

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Speaker 6: And again, he's just he's one of those guys gonna

1876
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:58,560
Speaker 6: keep fighting for us and and find a way to

1877
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 6: find a win here. At some point at three and eight,

1878
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 6: what are y'all building wellment him for to just find

1879
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 6: a win.

1880
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:06,679
Speaker 2: What do you what have you appreciated the most about

1881
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:07,800
Speaker 2: the way flackloes balot this.

1882
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:10,120
Speaker 6: Maybe, I mean you just you can't put into words.

1883
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 6: You know, he didn't owe anything of this team. He

1884
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 6: just showed up, you know, and so he could take

1885
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:20,599
Speaker 6: the easy way out and nurse and injury and say,

1886
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:22,800
Speaker 6: you know, I need more rest and all that stuff,

1887
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 6: and he has. He just keeps walking on the field

1888
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:29,720
Speaker 6: and pops his finger out and whatever happened there, I'm

1889
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 6: hurting your throwing hands. Not easy, you know, to go

1890
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 6: out there and push through that. And Chake's response, he

1891
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 6: goes out, there's one pass for fifteen yards with not

1892
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 6: a moment's notice.

1893
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 5: And so.

1894
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:42,960
Speaker 6: Just a lot of examples the guys just just wanting

1895
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 6: to do whatever it takes to find a win.

1896
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 16: To call a pass there with Jake coming in, I'm

1897
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 16: gonna have to run.

1898
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 3: And grab his helmet.

1899
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 6: There wasn't there wasn't a lot of choice there. I mean,

1900
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 6: we were we were down two scores, I think at

1901
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:57,680
Speaker 6: that moment when Jake did it, and Jake went in

1902
01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 6: there and did a great job, bought some time, found

1903
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 6: the backside crosser big completion. Appreciate that.

1904
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 7: What's that You've seen a lot of big kicks from

1905
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 7: having right before halftime sixty three yard or a new

1906
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 7: franchise record your thoughts on how it come out.

1907
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:17,839
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's in a great rhythm, has a lot of confidence.

1908
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:20,560
Speaker 6: I think the operation has been really good, and so

1909
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 6: we have a lot of confidence in him. So it's

1910
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:27,640
Speaker 6: not surprising, you know too, for him to take that

1911
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 6: opportunity that was the sixty three yards really didn't didn't

1912
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 6: bat an eye at it. I double checked it Darren,

1913
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 6: just to make sure we're in good shape there. He

1914
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 6: didn't hesitate, and then once we line up for the kick,

1915
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:41,160
Speaker 6: you just assume what's going on. That's the point you're

1916
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 6: at with Evan right now.

1917
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 7: Yeah, so Mitch's ketch on Flimm said the impression of

1918
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 7: the catch, and then I guess they.

1919
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:51,600
Speaker 3: Wanted to get the.

1920
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Speaker 6: That was the one right in front of me at

1921
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:58,760
Speaker 6: our sideline. Yeah yeah, I mean just just you know,

1922
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:00,640
Speaker 6: layered it right over the I think it was a

1923
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:04,120
Speaker 6: nickel right there. Mitch did a great job securing it

1924
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 6: out of bounds. They didn't touch them, so they end

1925
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:07,640
Speaker 6: up putting the time back on the clock. But it's

1926
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 6: it's a big moment for us, you know, fourth down

1927
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:12,600
Speaker 6: and got to make a play and happy that it

1928
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 6: stepped up for us.

1929
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 2: What's probably the most frustrating thing about not being able

1930
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:18,640
Speaker 2: to get more winds with the stint with flaccoing.

1931
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Speaker 6: That is the most frustrating thing. Losing. Losing is the worst.

1932
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Speaker 6: I mean it's the worst and you were accountable for it.

1933
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:31,720
Speaker 6: We were. We make all the adjustments we've got to make,

1934
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 6: and then you got to turn the page and you

1935
01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:34,680
Speaker 6: gotta get ready for the next week. That's that's life

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Speaker 6: in the NFL. We're gotta get ready for Thursday. So

1937
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Speaker 6: not a lot of time to sit here and.

1938
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 8: Do.

1939
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 6: We just got to move forward and we got to

1940
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 6: go back to work and I know these guys are

1941
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 6: gonna do that, and we got to do it great

1942
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:50,639
Speaker 6: energy and belief that we're gonna walk on that field

1943
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:52,439
Speaker 6: and go find a win on Thursday night on the road.

1944
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:54,479
Speaker 6: And that's that's what we're gonna set forth to do

1945
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:55,640
Speaker 6: and start tomorrow morning with.

1946
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:58,680
Speaker 3: A situation when you know who's starting today.

1947
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 6: Flat do on front. You know on Friday was started.

1948
01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:05,920
Speaker 14: Exactly he going down when he did lay in the

1949
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 14: game Uh, we're obviously going a short week now and

1950
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 14: this pops up.

1951
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 7: That's big questions there in the last couple of minutes,

1952
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 7: is that I feel like reassurance just for the passing

1953
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 7: game overall.

1954
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought a lot of guys stepped up, you know,

1955
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:25,559
Speaker 6: so again they they've shown that we should have confidence

1956
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:27,800
Speaker 6: and then you know, and I think that's just what's

1957
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 6: been built up over there with with a lot of

1958
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:31,680
Speaker 6: the skill players on offenses, as you put them in,

1959
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 6: you expect them to make a play, and then they

1960
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:34,040
Speaker 6: keep showing up for us.

1961
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 18: With the lost today, I'm Tripp's question is surprised you.

1962
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 18: There'll be a lot of talk externally about why the

1963
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 18: organization feels that it's in the best interested Joe if

1964
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 18: you do decide to play him, communities to address what

1965
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 18: what you guys are factoring.

1966
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:50,599
Speaker 2: In the pit.

1967
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, winning is important. We want to win, and Joe

1968
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:55,360
Speaker 6: gives us a great chance to win. And again Flacco

1969
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:58,599
Speaker 6: has has given us every every opportunity. We haven't lost

1970
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:00,800
Speaker 6: games because of Joe Flacco. He's gone out there and

1971
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 6: give us everything and he understands that. That being said,

1972
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 6: Walls will be excited to watch Joe Burrow. We all

1973
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:08,800
Speaker 6: have Joe Brown now for six years and see the

1974
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 6: things he can do as well. And so again it's

1975
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:14,559
Speaker 6: it's he's worked really hard to get himself back. He's

1976
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 6: a football player. He wants to play football. We want

1977
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:19,760
Speaker 6: to win football games, and so that will lead into

1978
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 6: that decision.

1979
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:23,120
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor after the game yesterday, Dave, if there were

1980
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 2: one play I'd like to go back and I could

1981
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 2: rewrite or recall. And it's been to bug me for

1982
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 2: a while. The third and one from the forty five,

1983
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:35,920
Speaker 2: and they they have Joe Flacco throws leading to fourth

1984
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:37,719
Speaker 2: and one. There was a delay a game. They wound

1985
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:40,559
Speaker 2: up putting on a as soon as Joe Flacco dropped

1986
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 2: on third and one to throw, and I'm screaming, they're

1987
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 2: averaging five yards of carriages. Run the ball and move

1988
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 2: the chains to keep the drive going. And it's didn't

1989
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 2: happen just bumping that one, my man. I just as

1990
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 2: soon as he dropped back, I screamed, like it's slow motion.

1991
01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:59,240
Speaker 3: Yes, I am with you. I'm with you.

1992
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 2: Call me old school. The third and one run the

1993
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 2: damn football.

1994
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:06,080
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, every once in a while, yeah,

1995
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 3: play action pass, you know, particularly get your running game established,

1996
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 3: your running game going, you know, trying to throw it

1997
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:13,839
Speaker 3: over their heads and make a huge play, a difference

1998
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 3: maker in the course of the football game. But I mean,

1999
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:19,879
Speaker 3: nine times out of ten third and one, run the football,

2000
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 3: get a fresh set of downs, do more damage, probe

2001
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:24,800
Speaker 3: a little bit, find out what the defense is trying

2002
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 3: to do.

2003
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 2: I mean, and it's not like they were if they

2004
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 2: were struggling to run. Maybe you could debate it. And

2005
01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:35,160
Speaker 2: I know he believed in his defense at that point.

2006
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 2: He said, I know the defense is playing well, but

2007
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:39,880
Speaker 2: your average in five yards a pop, and you just

2008
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 2: need one on third and one.

2009
01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:45,880
Speaker 3: And I'll guarantee you Mike Vrabel can count on one

2010
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 3: hand the number of times his team gave up five

2011
01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 3: and a half yards of carry in a game for

2012
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 3: the entire football game. I mean, that's that's a heck

2013
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 3: of an accomplishment. And man, on third and one, do

2014
01:28:57,920 --> 01:28:58,559
Speaker 3: what you're doing.

2015
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:02,799
Speaker 2: Well that game. I one more to wrap up the segment,

2016
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:05,559
Speaker 2: what did you make after seeing the Patriots first hand?

2017
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 2: They're a team that there's a lot of debate, and

2018
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:09,760
Speaker 2: actually they haven't played the toughest of schedules. I get that,

2019
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:11,519
Speaker 2: but they've won nine in the row. They're ten and two,

2020
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:14,240
Speaker 2: and you referenced last week, there's not a lot of

2021
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:17,200
Speaker 2: like Pro Bowlers or big names that jump out. They

2022
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 2: almost feel like one of those, greater than the some

2023
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:23,200
Speaker 2: of their parts and taking on the personality their coach

2024
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:25,679
Speaker 2: and go and doing more than you would think they'd

2025
01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 2: be able to do.

2026
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 3: I think you hit on it right there, Lance, I

2027
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:31,599
Speaker 3: think they are taking on the personality of Mike Vrabel.

2028
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:35,720
Speaker 3: Mike Vrabel was an extremely high football IQ player. I

2029
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 3: mean gifted physically, big, you know, broad shalden, big outside linebacker,

2030
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:42,760
Speaker 3: the rush guy for Ohio State, and I mean he

2031
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:47,400
Speaker 3: trans translated well to the National Football League and Bill Belichick.

2032
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 3: I'm sure Mike Vrabel even learned more football. I mean

2033
01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:54,639
Speaker 3: he got his master's and doctorate from from Bill Belichick

2034
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 3: playing for him for the number of years that he did.

2035
01:29:57,400 --> 01:30:01,080
Speaker 3: But you know, I think that that the New England

2036
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:04,439
Speaker 3: Patriots are a viable playoff team. I mean they shoot there.

2037
01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:06,960
Speaker 3: They're the best team in the AFC right now, you know,

2038
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 3: so you've got to give them their props. You gotta

2039
01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:10,800
Speaker 3: give them their just due. And the Bengals hung right

2040
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:12,679
Speaker 3: with them. I mean it wasn't like they didn't belong

2041
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:13,760
Speaker 3: on that same football. Yeah.

2042
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 2: More ahead, We'll hear a little bit more from Joe

2043
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:19,880
Speaker 2: Flacco up next as we continue on with Bengals line

2044
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 2: at the Bengals Radio Network at ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

2045
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:30,840
Speaker 2: Sports Station. We are rolling right along in this Monday

2046
01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:33,439
Speaker 2: night three big hours of Bengals on and the Bengals

2047
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:36,800
Speaker 2: Radio Network and ESPN fifteen three Cincinnati Sports Station.

2048
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 3: Hey, Bengals fans, make sure to catch me and Dan

2049
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:42,559
Speaker 3: Horde every Wednesday of this season for Bengals Game Plan

2050
01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:44,880
Speaker 3: presented by Bud Light on the air from six to

2051
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:47,439
Speaker 3: eight pm on ESPN fifteen thirty.

2052
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:50,600
Speaker 2: Here's more from Joe Flacco yesterday again one hundred and

2053
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:53,800
Speaker 2: eighty three yards through the air, the touchdown, and the

2054
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:56,840
Speaker 2: thoughts on yesterday and the thoughts on what might be

2055
01:30:56,920 --> 01:30:59,720
Speaker 2: ahead with the potential return of Joe Burrow on Thursday night.

2056
01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:00,880
Speaker 2: Here is Joe Flacco.

2057
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:02,640
Speaker 18: I just want to follow up on what you were

2058
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:06,360
Speaker 18: saying about how it's your job to get ready. Is

2059
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:10,000
Speaker 18: it hard to deal with the situation you're going to

2060
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 18: for the next whether it's a few days or two

2061
01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:14,559
Speaker 18: leaves in the storyline, about what you joke, go back

2062
01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:18,360
Speaker 18: in that if you do end up being his backup

2063
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:19,560
Speaker 18: whenever he comes.

2064
01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:21,040
Speaker 3: Like you didn't lose your job because of the.

2065
01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:24,120
Speaker 6: Results, saying like you're playing really well or or you're

2066
01:31:24,160 --> 01:31:24,879
Speaker 6: not a part.

2067
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:27,360
Speaker 8: Like does it make it that much harder to accept?

2068
01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:29,960
Speaker 3: Or like what's this like for you? Behind the scenes?

2069
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:33,840
Speaker 7: I think as a competitor, you're always want to be

2070
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:35,560
Speaker 7: out there on the field. I mean, this is what

2071
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:37,719
Speaker 7: I live to do, is go out in that field

2072
01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:42,479
Speaker 7: and play football. But at the same time, I feel

2073
01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:46,160
Speaker 7: really fortunate to have kind of found myself in this situation.

2074
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:48,200
Speaker 7: As much as I would have loved to see us

2075
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:50,000
Speaker 7: win games, I still have had a lot of fun

2076
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:53,840
Speaker 7: here with these guys in the locker room. Going out

2077
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:57,280
Speaker 7: lacing them up with these guys has been a lot

2078
01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:01,080
Speaker 7: of fun. And I've felt right home and have had

2079
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:07,599
Speaker 7: a blast doing it. And I don't think I really

2080
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:12,080
Speaker 7: am looking anything past that. You know, I get it,

2081
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:16,560
Speaker 7: I get how certain feelings could be involved with this,

2082
01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:18,920
Speaker 7: but in this case, it's you know, it's easy for

2083
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:21,120
Speaker 7: me to kind of put those aside and just look

2084
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:25,080
Speaker 7: at the positives of the whole thing, and you know,

2085
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:28,479
Speaker 7: and be excited for another teammate trying to work his

2086
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:33,400
Speaker 7: way back. So it might sound like crap and like

2087
01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:36,280
Speaker 7: I'm lying, And yeah, there is a tough part of

2088
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:37,040
Speaker 7: not being out there.

2089
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:37,760
Speaker 8: There always is.

2090
01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:41,519
Speaker 7: But I feel like I've put my head down and

2091
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:45,680
Speaker 7: worked hard the last however long it's been, and I've

2092
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:47,599
Speaker 7: had a lot of fun with these guys, and it's

2093
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:55,880
Speaker 7: always it's always, I don't know, it's just always, I

2094
01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:56,200
Speaker 7: don't know.

2095
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:59,280
Speaker 8: I keep saying fun, but I want to say something else.

2096
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:01,320
Speaker 7: But when you're in there with guys and you make

2097
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:03,240
Speaker 7: relationships with them, and you're out there battling on the

2098
01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:05,519
Speaker 7: field with them and you can look each other in

2099
01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:07,240
Speaker 7: the eyes and know that you've been doing out the

2100
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:09,800
Speaker 7: right way, then you really can't worry about the other things.

2101
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:13,000
Speaker 8: You just are going out there playing and let the

2102
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:14,880
Speaker 8: rest of it take care of yourself. Is that I

2103
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:15,880
Speaker 8: think That's what I think.

2104
01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:18,360
Speaker 7: That's ultimately kind of the secret in terms of like

2105
01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:21,880
Speaker 7: playing football is like you want things right, you want

2106
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 7: things to happen, but there's got to be a piece

2107
01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:27,599
Speaker 7: that lets it happen.

2108
01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:31,240
Speaker 8: You know, you can't force things, and you can't try to.

2109
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:34,679
Speaker 8: You know, you just can't.

2110
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 7: And I think as you get older and the more

2111
01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:39,720
Speaker 7: you play and the more you just experience everything, you

2112
01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:43,360
Speaker 7: realize that you know, you get you gain a little

2113
01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:45,680
Speaker 7: bit of perspective and you realize and then and then

2114
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:47,240
Speaker 7: there's times in the moment where you still want to

2115
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:50,200
Speaker 7: try to do too much or whatever it is, and

2116
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 7: worry about what's happening at the end. But I think

2117
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:55,640
Speaker 7: the more you do it, you do find out that

2118
01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:57,680
Speaker 7: the secret is to just go out there and do

2119
01:33:57,800 --> 01:33:59,280
Speaker 7: what you love to do to the best of your

2120
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:01,680
Speaker 7: ability and let the things fall in place. And I

2121
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:03,960
Speaker 7: think if you get a collective group of guys doing that,

2122
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:05,840
Speaker 7: then you have then you have what you want.

2123
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:08,840
Speaker 11: Two quick things, just to circle back on the game

2124
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:11,519
Speaker 11: real quick, is the lack of rhythm maybe affect how

2125
01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:12,120
Speaker 11: you see the field?

2126
01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:14,400
Speaker 6: Is that is that is there a correlationship probably how

2127
01:34:14,439 --> 01:34:16,080
Speaker 6: you saw today the rhythm.

2128
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:22,879
Speaker 7: No, I mean it's it's you know, it's good defense

2129
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:25,160
Speaker 7: and maybe not as good of offense as we would like.

2130
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:31,040
Speaker 7: And that's what good teams do. Like even like today,

2131
01:34:31,080 --> 01:34:33,679
Speaker 7: it didn't feel like anything crazy, but it was harder

2132
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:36,439
Speaker 7: because they just are good at what they do and

2133
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:40,360
Speaker 7: they make it tough for you to complete underneath passes.

2134
01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:42,120
Speaker 7: You know, there's times where you drop the ball down

2135
01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 7: underneath and you get twenty five yard games and stuff

2136
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:46,439
Speaker 7: like that. And these guys, because they they're able to

2137
01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:48,240
Speaker 7: rally the ball and do things like that, they make it.

2138
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 7: They make those things hard. They're not going to give

2139
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:55,000
Speaker 7: you anything, and listen, this is the type of games.

2140
01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:57,240
Speaker 7: This is the type of game it ends up being

2141
01:34:57,960 --> 01:35:00,439
Speaker 7: when you put when you go against good teams, it's

2142
01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:02,240
Speaker 7: twenty six to twenty and you have a chance to win.

2143
01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:06,040
Speaker 7: It's kind of how we felt like the game against

2144
01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:09,479
Speaker 7: Pittsburgh should have probably went last week, but we made mistakes.

2145
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:12,400
Speaker 7: Obviously we did make a mistake in this game, but

2146
01:35:12,479 --> 01:35:13,479
Speaker 7: ultimately we didn't.

2147
01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:15,720
Speaker 8: We kept the game within striking distance and we just

2148
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:16,639
Speaker 8: weren't able to get it done.

2149
01:35:16,640 --> 01:35:18,760
Speaker 16: Again, it's tefinitely going going back to the win, one

2150
01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:20,600
Speaker 16: questioning was going, what's it?

2151
01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:21,840
Speaker 6: What was it like kind of walking off? What was

2152
01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:23,719
Speaker 6: running through your mind as you walked off the field.

2153
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:25,360
Speaker 3: At the end of that one? What were you thinking about?

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Speaker 7: I don't know, the same thing you're probably always thinking

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01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:33,519
Speaker 7: when you know you come up a little short, you're

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01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:37,360
Speaker 7: just a little bit you know, you're thinking about what

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01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:39,599
Speaker 7: you could have done on the last couple of plays

2158
01:35:39,640 --> 01:35:42,639
Speaker 7: and can't wait to go look at it and maybe

2159
01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:44,880
Speaker 7: see what you could have done and beat yourself up

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01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:45,920
Speaker 7: about it a little bit.

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Speaker 6: The same as always your feel like tomorrow compared to

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01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:53,519
Speaker 6: thirty one.

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01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:03,200
Speaker 8: I think playing quarterback, it's always week to week.

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Speaker 7: Sometimes you get really beat up and sometimes you play

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01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:08,880
Speaker 7: really physical games and other times you don't. And I

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01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:12,240
Speaker 7: really don't think because I'm forty, I feel different waking up.

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01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:14,479
Speaker 7: I mean, everybody always says that you know, once you

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01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:17,120
Speaker 7: hit thirty or once you hit forty, wait till you

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01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:20,960
Speaker 7: get out of bed and this happens. Yeah, I have

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Speaker 7: to stay on top of things more. But in terms

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01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:25,599
Speaker 7: of waking up and how my body, how my body reacts,

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01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:29,200
Speaker 7: I'm so much better at taking care of myself and

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01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:32,679
Speaker 7: like and actually doing the things to prepare your body

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Speaker 7: for success than I was when I was twenty five

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Speaker 7: years old. So I think the if there is any

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01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:41,120
Speaker 7: drop off at forty, it just it makes up that

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01:36:41,200 --> 01:36:42,880
Speaker 7: you're a little bit more aware of how of how

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Speaker 7: to do things.

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Speaker 3: So how often do you get to top your finger?

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01:36:46,160 --> 01:36:47,639
Speaker 9: Is that common when you have to do that mid

2181
01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:48,400
Speaker 9: game before or.

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Speaker 8: Is that I've never I've never done that. I've never

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01:36:51,439 --> 01:36:51,880
Speaker 8: had to do it.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I didn't feel like much.

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01:36:57,400 --> 01:36:59,200
Speaker 8: I mean I didn't know I did it until I looked.

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01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:00,599
Speaker 7: Down at it, and then I came over and Matt

2187
01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:02,800
Speaker 7: just popped it in, you know, popped it back into place,

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01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:05,080
Speaker 7: and then it was just like, Okay, I can throw.

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01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:06,160
Speaker 3: Yeah there you go.

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Speaker 11: Serious?

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01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:07,479
Speaker 3: What that first throw?

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01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:08,960
Speaker 9: I was going to feel like after you popped it

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01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:09,280
Speaker 9: back in?

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01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:10,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was.

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01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:11,840
Speaker 7: I threw a couple of balls in the sideline and

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01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:14,479
Speaker 7: Jake did a good job completed the ball, and you know,

2197
01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:15,400
Speaker 7: but I didn't want.

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Speaker 8: To let him have too much fun out there.

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Speaker 2: So Flaco after the game, and I want to go

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01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:21,400
Speaker 2: back to something you said because I think it makes

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01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 2: so much sense. In twenty twenty six, Joe Flacco will

2202
01:37:25,439 --> 01:37:28,280
Speaker 2: be forty one in January. Could there be a team

2203
01:37:28,360 --> 01:37:31,880
Speaker 2: that offers him a starting job? Maybe not likely. So

2204
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:35,080
Speaker 2: if you're if you're Joe Flacco and you like being

2205
01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:40,200
Speaker 2: here and you could be the backup to Joe Burrow

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01:37:40,240 --> 01:37:43,120
Speaker 2: and make a nice amount of money in a system

2207
01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:46,599
Speaker 2: you're comfortable in. He'd be an awfully nice insurance policy

2208
01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 2: for this football team to have as the backup quarterback.

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Speaker 3: No question, man. I mean that whatever premium they're paying,

2210
01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:55,680
Speaker 3: it's worth. Yes, Joe Flacco as the backup quarterback. And

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01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:57,920
Speaker 3: I do think that he's got a lot of respect

2212
01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:02,679
Speaker 3: for for what Zach Taylor's mentality is from an offensive standpoint.

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01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:06,679
Speaker 3: I think he realizes that Zach Taylor is an offensive

2214
01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:09,880
Speaker 3: guy as such and understands the game. I think he

2215
01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:12,479
Speaker 3: likes Dan Pitcher. I think he likes all the offensive coaches.

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01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:17,680
Speaker 3: I think he thinks they're young, very exciting and intelligent

2217
01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:21,360
Speaker 3: guys to be around. So and I think he and

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01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:26,320
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow have right away established a bond that is

2219
01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:31,280
Speaker 3: is significant. I think Joe Flacco could do a lot

2220
01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:33,200
Speaker 3: worse than come back and be a member of the

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bengals. Up next, Dylan Fairchild the subject of fantastic

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Speaker 3: fun Facts.

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Speaker 2: We love fun facts, just Dan Horde. We'll hear that

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01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:44,360
Speaker 2: next Bengals on in the Bengals Radio Network and ESPN

2225
01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:53,960
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. We continue on this Monday

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Speaker 2: night Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network. Lance Bacaviister

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01:38:58,520 --> 01:39:00,080
Speaker 2: Dave Lapham.

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Speaker 3: Last pay Court is proud to be the official hr,

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Speaker 3: software provider of the Cincinnati Bengal.

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Speaker 2: Each week we take a listen to Dan Hord's Fantastic

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01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:10,920
Speaker 2: Fun Facts, a chance to go behind the scenes, pull

2232
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:14,360
Speaker 2: the curtain back and learn more about a Bengal player

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01:39:14,400 --> 01:39:17,680
Speaker 2: beyond just the player in him. And this week the

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Speaker 2: subject the spotlight on Dylan Fairchild. Here is Fantastic Fun Facts.

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01:39:23,200 --> 01:39:27,200
Speaker 1: No fantastic fun facts with Dan Ord.

2236
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:30,840
Speaker 4: Time for some fun facts with offensive lineman Dylan Fairchild

2237
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:35,040
Speaker 4: from Coming, Georgia, about forty minutes north of Atlanta, the

2238
01:39:35,120 --> 01:39:39,200
Speaker 4: birthplace of country music stars Zach Brown, among others. Your

2239
01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:41,800
Speaker 4: excellence as a high school wrestler is a big part

2240
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Speaker 4: of your bio. It's a sport that's not for everybody.

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01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:46,920
Speaker 4: Why did you enjoy it so much?

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01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 9: I just love the grit. You know, it's a gritty sport.

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01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:52,200
Speaker 9: It's a difficult thing to do. I didn't love it

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01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:55,720
Speaker 9: every day, but some of those days I remember, like I,

2245
01:39:56,720 --> 01:39:59,880
Speaker 9: you know, there were Sundays. Every Sunday my dad would

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01:39:59,880 --> 01:40:03,080
Speaker 9: take me to go to my gym and wrestle, and

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01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:06,040
Speaker 9: just I that was one of those days. We're growing up,

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01:40:06,160 --> 01:40:08,240
Speaker 9: like I didn't really want to go on Sunday, But

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01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:11,519
Speaker 9: now that I look back, I realized, like those sundays

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Speaker 9: were obviously we're playing athletics on Sundays now, so you know,

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Speaker 9: like it. I think that kind of just like put

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01:40:18,280 --> 01:40:20,840
Speaker 9: discipline into me even more, because you know, there's nothing

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01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:23,000
Speaker 9: better than just sitting at home chilling on Sunday, but

2254
01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:26,840
Speaker 9: when you're over there grinding and stuff like it just

2255
01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:29,240
Speaker 9: really put me, put some core values in my in

2256
01:40:29,320 --> 01:40:31,960
Speaker 9: my brain and in my body, and just you know,

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01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:33,719
Speaker 9: helped me develop as a person the most.

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01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:36,960
Speaker 4: You were an undefeated state champion as a junior and

2259
01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:40,000
Speaker 4: as a senior. What was your fastest pin?

2260
01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:42,560
Speaker 9: Oh gosh, I don't even know. I think it was

2261
01:40:42,640 --> 01:40:46,920
Speaker 9: like four seconds. This guy like he just rolled over.

2262
01:40:47,080 --> 01:40:48,280
Speaker 9: I was like, are you serious?

2263
01:40:49,400 --> 01:40:50,160
Speaker 3: No, it was it was.

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01:40:50,479 --> 01:40:51,600
Speaker 9: It was pretty ridiculous.

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01:40:51,640 --> 01:40:51,880
Speaker 5: I was.

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01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:53,719
Speaker 3: I was shocked.

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01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:56,439
Speaker 9: I didn't even like he just immediately shook hands and

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01:40:56,720 --> 01:40:59,879
Speaker 9: basically laid down. I was like, Wow, this is crazy.

2269
01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:03,400
Speaker 4: Be nice if defensive lineman did that, No, that'd be great.

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Speaker 9: He's so great.

2271
01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:08,320
Speaker 4: On the flip side, did anybody give you a really

2272
01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:10,400
Speaker 4: good match in those last two years?

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01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:10,760
Speaker 8: Oh?

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01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:12,920
Speaker 9: Absolutely, there was a couple of great guys. There's a

2275
01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:16,080
Speaker 9: kid from Central I ends up forgetting his name central Verscyth.

2276
01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:19,160
Speaker 9: It's a really tough kid, like impossible to try to

2277
01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:23,160
Speaker 9: turn and pin. My hardest match ever was a kid

2278
01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:27,360
Speaker 9: named Tamari Fox. He went to un C North Carolina

2279
01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:30,680
Speaker 9: and played I believe DN there and it was just

2280
01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:33,640
Speaker 9: a stud athlete like he gave me, by far, the

2281
01:41:33,680 --> 01:41:37,679
Speaker 9: hardest match I remember walking away from. I ended up losing.

2282
01:41:37,800 --> 01:41:40,920
Speaker 9: I walked away and I wasn't even upset because I

2283
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:43,960
Speaker 9: just I gave everything I had. I threw up profusely

2284
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:48,000
Speaker 9: in the bathroom and was like, I knew I emptied

2285
01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:50,960
Speaker 9: the tank. So that was by far, Like that was

2286
01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:55,240
Speaker 9: one of my most thrilling matches, even though I lost,

2287
01:41:55,400 --> 01:41:58,479
Speaker 9: So it was just fun. Sounds like something you grew from.

2288
01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:02,080
Speaker 9: Absolutely Yeah, No, I knew, like I've been training for

2289
01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:04,320
Speaker 9: him for months and months and months at a time.

2290
01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:07,880
Speaker 9: And after the match, I mean I was gonna be

2291
01:42:07,960 --> 01:42:10,800
Speaker 9: so I pre pre match and pre tournament. It was

2292
01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:12,400
Speaker 9: a state tournament, so I was like, I wanted to

2293
01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:15,080
Speaker 9: win really bad, and I thought I'd be really upset,

2294
01:42:15,120 --> 01:42:17,519
Speaker 9: but I wasn't because I knew like I had given

2295
01:42:17,640 --> 01:42:20,800
Speaker 9: everything and I learned a lesson that day, Like when

2296
01:42:20,800 --> 01:42:23,240
Speaker 9: you give everything you've got, like it's everything you got,

2297
01:42:23,439 --> 01:42:26,280
Speaker 9: you know, so win or lose, you at least can

2298
01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:29,320
Speaker 9: go to sleep knowing everything you gave everything you had

2299
01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:32,000
Speaker 9: to try to get a win, you know that day.

2300
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Speaker 9: So sometimes it just doesn't turn out in your favor.

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Speaker 4: We're chatting a Dylan Fairchild. You're from Georgia and you

2302
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Speaker 4: went to Georgia. You played at the University of Was

2303
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:41,600
Speaker 4: that the dream growing up?

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01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:45,400
Speaker 9: I think so? Yeah, I think so. I knew I honestly, like,

2305
01:42:45,479 --> 01:42:47,080
Speaker 9: I didn't know what I was gonna do. I thought

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01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:48,640
Speaker 9: I was going to wrestle for a long time. Then

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01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:50,559
Speaker 9: I thought I was gonna play football, Then I thought

2308
01:42:50,560 --> 01:42:52,080
Speaker 9: I was gonna wrestle. Like I was kind of back

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01:42:52,120 --> 01:42:54,400
Speaker 9: and forth. But as always a Georgia fan. I was

2310
01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:57,920
Speaker 9: always watching those national championships when they were in it,

2311
01:42:58,160 --> 01:43:01,680
Speaker 9: and just somehow it pulls through. I'm not gonna I'm

2312
01:43:01,720 --> 01:43:05,200
Speaker 9: not gonna talk about it, but no, but I was

2313
01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:07,920
Speaker 9: definitely a Georgia fan my whole life. My dad raised

2314
01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:10,120
Speaker 9: me a Georgia fan. We always pulled for the dogs,

2315
01:43:10,160 --> 01:43:12,320
Speaker 9: and I just knew that was the place to go.

2316
01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:12,880
Speaker 3: You know.

2317
01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:15,600
Speaker 9: It was the hardest place I could possibly go to

2318
01:43:15,920 --> 01:43:18,600
Speaker 9: other than one more and I'm not gonna mention it

2319
01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:23,280
Speaker 9: happens to be our neighbor. But you know, those two

2320
01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:26,040
Speaker 9: programs are by far the best programs you know at

2321
01:43:26,080 --> 01:43:29,640
Speaker 9: the time, and we're the toughest programs, had the best recruits.

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Speaker 5: And so.

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Speaker 9: But it was a no brainer for me. If I

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01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:34,519
Speaker 9: was gonna challenge myself, that's the place to do it.

2325
01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:38,120
Speaker 4: We learned from your college teammate of Marius Mims, that

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Speaker 4: your nickname at Georgia was Pickle. What is the origin

2327
01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:44,599
Speaker 4: story of the pickle nickname?

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01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:47,200
Speaker 9: Mimmes was the one who started it. I don't even know.

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01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:51,320
Speaker 9: I think I honestly couldn't tell you. I have no idea.

2330
01:43:52,160 --> 01:43:54,160
Speaker 9: I think Memes this one day said it and it

2331
01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:57,479
Speaker 9: just stuck, and then all the boys, all the guys

2332
01:43:57,560 --> 01:44:00,280
Speaker 9: started calling calling me Pickle, and it just we just

2333
01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:01,439
Speaker 9: wrote it out from there on.

2334
01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:02,280
Speaker 3: And that was it.

2335
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:05,200
Speaker 4: Since Mimes is in the building here, has that nickname

2336
01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:06,920
Speaker 4: migrated to Cincinnati.

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01:44:07,280 --> 01:44:09,240
Speaker 9: It has with Memes. Yeah, I think I'll always be

2338
01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:11,640
Speaker 9: Pickled to Memes. But I don't think some of these

2339
01:44:11,680 --> 01:44:12,920
Speaker 9: older guys are going to buy into that.

2340
01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:17,439
Speaker 4: You're a twenty two year old rookie and a married man.

2341
01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:19,960
Speaker 4: You got married about a month before the NFL draft.

2342
01:44:20,200 --> 01:44:22,360
Speaker 4: Why did you and Elizabeth decide to get married at

2343
01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:23,200
Speaker 4: such an early age.

2344
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:26,600
Speaker 9: I think it's just the way I grew up. My

2345
01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:31,120
Speaker 9: parents were divorced, and I just I love God and

2346
01:44:31,320 --> 01:44:34,000
Speaker 9: I love her, and I knew that she has led

2347
01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:38,360
Speaker 9: me to success in ways that you know, it's hard

2348
01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:41,880
Speaker 9: for me to you know, reciprocate, and like she's just

2349
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:44,439
Speaker 9: given me a piece to be able to come here

2350
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:47,160
Speaker 9: every single day and do my job and fully focus

2351
01:44:47,240 --> 01:44:50,040
Speaker 9: on my job. And that's really what I want, you know.

2352
01:44:50,200 --> 01:44:52,560
Speaker 9: And I love her the most out of any you know,

2353
01:44:53,120 --> 01:44:56,120
Speaker 9: anything and anyone other than the Lord above. And I

2354
01:44:56,200 --> 01:44:59,160
Speaker 9: knew that we were going to pursue, continue to pursue God,

2355
01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:01,680
Speaker 9: and continue to pursu to each other. So there was

2356
01:45:02,240 --> 01:45:04,640
Speaker 9: really no questions, you know, there was just that The

2357
01:45:04,680 --> 01:45:08,280
Speaker 9: answer was we wanted to get married, and it was quick.

2358
01:45:08,360 --> 01:45:11,320
Speaker 9: It was a free wedding, so we actually didn't go

2359
01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:14,880
Speaker 9: like we didn't e lope, but it wasn't like a

2360
01:45:14,960 --> 01:45:17,160
Speaker 9: full wedding, so it was It's pretty cool.

2361
01:45:17,439 --> 01:45:17,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.

2362
01:45:18,160 --> 01:45:20,040
Speaker 9: I'm glad that we did it. She's glad we did it,

2363
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:22,240
Speaker 9: and I wouldn't want it any other way.

2364
01:45:22,960 --> 01:45:25,439
Speaker 4: We're chatting with Dylan Fairchild. So a month after that,

2365
01:45:25,640 --> 01:45:27,800
Speaker 4: really big day came the other one when you were

2366
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:29,800
Speaker 4: selected in the third round by the Bengals in this

2367
01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:33,680
Speaker 4: year's draft. Describe that entire day. I know, it can

2368
01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:36,320
Speaker 4: be really stressful leading up to getting the phone call

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01:45:36,360 --> 01:45:37,120
Speaker 4: from Zach Taylor.

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Speaker 9: No, it was extremely stressful.

2371
01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:39,120
Speaker 5: I was.

2372
01:45:39,280 --> 01:45:41,680
Speaker 9: I was really The third round was where we were

2373
01:45:41,760 --> 01:45:45,400
Speaker 9: helping me, my agent, just my whole family. You know,

2374
01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:47,639
Speaker 9: obviously you want to continue to do better and better,

2375
01:45:47,720 --> 01:45:50,240
Speaker 9: but you know, that was where we had hopefully predicted

2376
01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:52,519
Speaker 9: where I would go, and I did not know it

2377
01:45:52,520 --> 01:45:56,280
Speaker 9: would be at Cincinnati. I had no idea. This was

2378
01:45:56,360 --> 01:45:58,000
Speaker 9: one of the last places I had on my mind

2379
01:45:58,040 --> 01:45:59,600
Speaker 9: of where I thought I would be too. I just

2380
01:46:00,600 --> 01:46:02,280
Speaker 9: we had a couple of meetings, but it just wasn't,

2381
01:46:02,320 --> 01:46:05,760
Speaker 9: you know, like it wasn't just it wasn't what I thought,

2382
01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:09,160
Speaker 9: you know, And so there were some picks, you know,

2383
01:46:09,360 --> 01:46:11,760
Speaker 9: at some times where they slipped by and I was like, oh,

2384
01:46:12,000 --> 01:46:14,840
Speaker 9: you know, we may be waiting another day, and then

2385
01:46:15,479 --> 01:46:17,720
Speaker 9: my friend started ringing, and it just the whole day,

2386
01:46:17,720 --> 01:46:20,160
Speaker 9: it was just like that was probably the most stressed

2387
01:46:20,160 --> 01:46:22,040
Speaker 9: out I think I've ever been, because there was nothing,

2388
01:46:22,920 --> 01:46:25,280
Speaker 9: nothing I could do. Nothing's in your control, you know,

2389
01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:28,280
Speaker 9: like it's all in God's hands, it's all in the

2390
01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:31,479
Speaker 9: coach's hands, in the in the owner's hands. So there's

2391
01:46:31,560 --> 01:46:33,160
Speaker 9: nothing that you can really do about it besides just

2392
01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:35,719
Speaker 9: sit and wait. And that feeling is kind of scary,

2393
01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:38,320
Speaker 9: you know, you just sitting there waiting to get a

2394
01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:41,320
Speaker 9: phone call. But and when I did, I I couldn't

2395
01:46:41,320 --> 01:46:43,160
Speaker 9: even believe it. Like I just answered the phone and

2396
01:46:43,320 --> 01:46:46,400
Speaker 9: I felt so robotic. I was like hello, you know,

2397
01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:49,559
Speaker 9: and so it was it was really a huge blessing,

2398
01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:52,280
Speaker 9: and like I just, you know, I was so shocked

2399
01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:54,439
Speaker 9: and just couldn't believe it. And I was just immediately

2400
01:46:54,560 --> 01:46:57,000
Speaker 9: so blessed. And you know, you're nervous, is you don't,

2401
01:46:57,080 --> 01:47:00,720
Speaker 9: you know, you'd love to be anywhere on any NFL team,

2402
01:47:00,800 --> 01:47:03,120
Speaker 9: But it's scary, you know, growing up in Georgia. Going

2403
01:47:03,160 --> 01:47:07,960
Speaker 9: to Georgia, you could move literally completely across the entire country,

2404
01:47:08,920 --> 01:47:11,960
Speaker 9: coast to coast. So it's really cool being like I'm

2405
01:47:12,040 --> 01:47:13,960
Speaker 9: still on the East coast, just being close to home,

2406
01:47:14,160 --> 01:47:15,800
Speaker 9: like it's a seven hour drive, which is and I

2407
01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:18,080
Speaker 9: love the drive too, so it was really awesome to

2408
01:47:18,280 --> 01:47:21,400
Speaker 9: just it's a huge blessing, you know, it was immediate blessing.

2409
01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:23,400
Speaker 9: Just my whole family and my mom started crying. It

2410
01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:24,799
Speaker 9: was awesome. It was awesome.

2411
01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:27,880
Speaker 4: We're having this visit about midway through your rookie year.

2412
01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:30,439
Speaker 4: How would you describe your first NFL season to day?

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01:47:31,479 --> 01:47:33,120
Speaker 9: I'm just trying to be a sponge, you know, and

2414
01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:35,920
Speaker 9: just absorb, absorb, absorb all the information and knowledge I

2415
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:38,360
Speaker 9: can and then on Sunday, just letting it fly, you know,

2416
01:47:38,600 --> 01:47:41,800
Speaker 9: just letting it go. Treating every day as if I

2417
01:47:41,880 --> 01:47:43,559
Speaker 9: have nothing to lose, you know, and that's the only

2418
01:47:43,640 --> 01:47:45,960
Speaker 9: way I know how to do it, and just going

2419
01:47:46,560 --> 01:47:49,960
Speaker 9: you know, the balls of the wall. There's no other

2420
01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:52,840
Speaker 9: way to put it. It's just hard every day, you know,

2421
01:47:53,000 --> 01:47:56,800
Speaker 9: just go hard every day. And yeah, that's really all

2422
01:47:56,840 --> 01:47:58,400
Speaker 9: I It's all I do is I try to look

2423
01:47:58,439 --> 01:48:00,800
Speaker 9: forward every single day all right.

2424
01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:03,720
Speaker 4: Time for a few wild card topics now with Dylan Fairchild,

2425
01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:07,519
Speaker 4: who is your all time favorite athlete in any sport?

2426
01:48:08,280 --> 01:48:11,600
Speaker 9: And why, I'd probably have to say Nate Dia is

2427
01:48:11,640 --> 01:48:14,280
Speaker 9: my favorite. Yeah, you know, I don't I don't know

2428
01:48:14,320 --> 01:48:18,000
Speaker 9: if you know, is that like a UFC guy fighter? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

2429
01:48:18,240 --> 01:48:22,360
Speaker 9: he uh, he's just a dog like he's not He's

2430
01:48:22,400 --> 01:48:26,280
Speaker 9: just one of those guys. It's like he doesn't ever stop,

2431
01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:29,200
Speaker 9: Like he just doesn't quit ever. You know, they say

2432
01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:31,280
Speaker 9: Nate Diez doesn't lose fights. He just runs out of time,

2433
01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:33,880
Speaker 9: you know. Like he he's just one of those guys

2434
01:48:33,920 --> 01:48:36,400
Speaker 9: that nobody wants to fight because he's just a dog,

2435
01:48:36,640 --> 01:48:39,679
Speaker 9: like he has no inch of care in his body

2436
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:41,240
Speaker 9: and he's willing to put it all out there on

2437
01:48:41,320 --> 01:48:44,120
Speaker 9: the line every time. And I feel the same way.

2438
01:48:44,280 --> 01:48:46,000
Speaker 9: You know, I don't think i'd do what he does.

2439
01:48:46,200 --> 01:48:48,439
Speaker 9: But he's a little he's just a couple of steps

2440
01:48:48,479 --> 01:48:51,920
Speaker 9: above us. But he's probably my favorite guy that I

2441
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:54,960
Speaker 9: look to. Is just like inspiration. Like when things don't

2442
01:48:55,000 --> 01:48:57,920
Speaker 9: go well, Like he's a nasty dude, you know, and

2443
01:48:58,560 --> 01:49:01,200
Speaker 9: things don't go well for him, you know, it might

2444
01:49:01,240 --> 01:49:02,840
Speaker 9: be vulgar, but he gives him the middle finger and

2445
01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:05,800
Speaker 9: like he just keeps going, you know. And that's that's

2446
01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:07,400
Speaker 9: the way my father raised me. That's the way that

2447
01:49:07,479 --> 01:49:09,439
Speaker 9: I've I've been you know, taught my whole life. And

2448
01:49:10,880 --> 01:49:13,120
Speaker 9: I just love he embodies that. So he's probably my

2449
01:49:13,200 --> 01:49:14,360
Speaker 9: favorite for sure.

2450
01:49:15,080 --> 01:49:17,760
Speaker 4: Final fun fact for Dylan Fairchild. This one's a little

2451
01:49:17,800 --> 01:49:22,519
Speaker 4: bit deep. If you could meet anybody in history, living

2452
01:49:22,760 --> 01:49:24,800
Speaker 4: or deceased, who would that person be?

2453
01:49:25,360 --> 01:49:29,280
Speaker 9: I go Jesus, Absolutely, yeah, no, I would. I'd love

2454
01:49:29,320 --> 01:49:32,120
Speaker 9: to meet Jesus. Hopefully That's where I'm going, you know,

2455
01:49:32,439 --> 01:49:36,280
Speaker 9: one day. But that was absolutely who I would go

2456
01:49:36,400 --> 01:49:37,200
Speaker 9: to meet for sure.

2457
01:49:37,520 --> 01:49:37,680
Speaker 11: You know.

2458
01:49:37,720 --> 01:49:40,799
Speaker 9: I try to root myself in that and just ground

2459
01:49:40,840 --> 01:49:44,360
Speaker 9: myself no matter what happens, good or bad, and just

2460
01:49:44,479 --> 01:49:47,519
Speaker 9: live live that life, you know, and I do a

2461
01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:49,560
Speaker 9: better job talking about it than being about it, you know,

2462
01:49:49,800 --> 01:49:52,960
Speaker 9: just being honest with you and fall short like everybody else.

2463
01:49:54,280 --> 01:49:55,920
Speaker 9: But again, like I just try to live with that

2464
01:49:56,240 --> 01:49:58,400
Speaker 9: that type of love you know, in my heart and

2465
01:49:59,240 --> 01:50:02,120
Speaker 9: just love and forget people. And that's just again like

2466
01:50:02,360 --> 01:50:04,600
Speaker 9: my wife does an amazing job of just bringing me

2467
01:50:04,720 --> 01:50:08,519
Speaker 9: back to that base level every day.

2468
01:50:08,840 --> 01:50:09,040
Speaker 3: You know.

2469
01:50:09,240 --> 01:50:12,960
Speaker 9: She's absolutely the reason that I was brought back to

2470
01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:16,160
Speaker 9: the Lord and she's my rock. And so yeah, no

2471
01:50:16,280 --> 01:50:17,760
Speaker 9: it it'd be Jesus for sure.

2472
01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:19,320
Speaker 5: This has been fun.

2473
01:50:19,600 --> 01:50:21,519
Speaker 4: Really appreciate your time, best of luck the rest of

2474
01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:21,800
Speaker 4: the year.

2475
01:50:21,880 --> 01:50:22,760
Speaker 9: Fair Thank you so much.

2476
01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:27,639
Speaker 2: Dylan Fairchild with Dan Horde. More of that and more

2477
01:50:28,040 --> 01:50:31,439
Speaker 2: Bengals stuff on the Bengals Booth podcast if you want

2478
01:50:31,479 --> 01:50:34,120
Speaker 2: to catch up there. Up next, let's talk about those

2479
01:50:34,160 --> 01:50:36,439
Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens. Next in the sights of the Bengals on

2480
01:50:36,600 --> 01:50:39,479
Speaker 2: Thursday night, as we roll on with Bengals Line on

2481
01:50:39,479 --> 01:50:43,639
Speaker 2: the Bengals Radio Network and ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station.

2482
01:50:52,040 --> 01:50:54,240
Speaker 2: We are a cruise and right along this Monday night

2483
01:50:54,280 --> 01:50:57,120
Speaker 2: of Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network and ESPN

2484
01:50:57,200 --> 01:50:59,920
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. Dave, always time for our final card.

2485
01:50:59,800 --> 01:51:03,200
Speaker 3: Of the absolutely Lance and as we all know, Alta

2486
01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:06,000
Speaker 3: Fiber is the official Wi Fi and Internet provider of

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2489
01:51:11,120 --> 01:51:14,679
Speaker 2: All right, Next up those Baltimore Ravens. Thursday night in Baltimore,

2490
01:51:14,840 --> 01:51:18,479
Speaker 2: Ravens started one in five. They're now six and five.

2491
01:51:18,680 --> 01:51:22,400
Speaker 2: They've won five straight, beat the Jets yesterday twenty three

2492
01:51:22,479 --> 01:51:25,559
Speaker 2: to ten, and Dave, the thing that jumps out immediately

2493
01:51:25,640 --> 01:51:28,439
Speaker 2: about what they have done during this turnaround. They're playing

2494
01:51:28,520 --> 01:51:31,680
Speaker 2: much better defense. In their first five games, they gave

2495
01:51:31,760 --> 01:51:34,639
Speaker 2: up one hundred and seventy seven points. Yeah, the most

2496
01:51:34,720 --> 01:51:37,439
Speaker 2: in a five game sequence in the history of the franchise.

2497
01:51:37,479 --> 01:51:39,960
Speaker 2: They were given up thirty five points a game. But

2498
01:51:40,080 --> 01:51:44,759
Speaker 2: in the last six they've held each opponent under twenty points.

2499
01:51:44,880 --> 01:51:50,840
Speaker 2: They've allowed seventeen, sixteen, six, nineteen, sixteen, fifteen. They have

2500
01:51:50,920 --> 01:51:53,040
Speaker 2: gotten that defense in order.

2501
01:51:53,280 --> 01:51:55,719
Speaker 3: They certainly have. And as you said, in the beginning

2502
01:51:55,760 --> 01:51:58,240
Speaker 3: of the season, they gave forty one to Buffalo, Oh,

2503
01:51:58,640 --> 01:52:01,280
Speaker 3: they gave up forty one to Cleveland. He give up

2504
01:52:01,320 --> 01:52:04,080
Speaker 3: thirty eight to Detroit, thirty seven of Kansas City, forty

2505
01:52:04,160 --> 01:52:07,679
Speaker 3: forty Houston Man. The Rams game was seventeen to three,

2506
01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:10,519
Speaker 3: and then they went on their five game They lost

2507
01:52:10,560 --> 01:52:12,280
Speaker 3: that Rams game, then they went on their five game

2508
01:52:12,479 --> 01:52:17,360
Speaker 3: winning streak. So, I mean, the defense has really turned

2509
01:52:17,400 --> 01:52:22,479
Speaker 3: it around and they're playing much like the defense that

2510
01:52:24,120 --> 01:52:28,000
Speaker 3: John Harbaugh was expecting. And they've they've got players. I mean,

2511
01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:30,320
Speaker 3: there's there's no question about it. You look at every

2512
01:52:31,600 --> 01:52:33,920
Speaker 3: level or layer of the of the defense. They've they've

2513
01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:38,040
Speaker 3: got players. Brent Urban is a good defensive end, good

2514
01:52:38,120 --> 01:52:41,280
Speaker 3: rush guy. Rookie Mike Green is making some noise, Rokwan

2515
01:52:41,439 --> 01:52:45,160
Speaker 3: Smith at middle linebacker, Kyle van Noy at a strong

2516
01:52:45,240 --> 01:52:49,519
Speaker 3: side outside backer, Kyle Hamilton at the strong safety position

2517
01:52:49,720 --> 01:52:54,240
Speaker 3: is a crazy athlete, Marlon Humphrey at corner. They've got

2518
01:52:54,280 --> 01:52:57,240
Speaker 3: players on that defensive football team and it is amazing

2519
01:52:57,360 --> 01:52:59,960
Speaker 3: to me that they were given up thirty five games. Yeah,

2520
01:53:00,600 --> 01:53:02,840
Speaker 3: for the first six games of the season. It's nuts.

2521
01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:05,160
Speaker 2: On the other side of Lamar Jackson has dealt with

2522
01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:08,040
Speaker 2: a lot of injuries throughout the season. They're they're winning

2523
01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:10,640
Speaker 2: with the defense and a run game. I saw a

2524
01:53:10,720 --> 01:53:14,000
Speaker 2: note this morning. Lamar has gone three straight games without

2525
01:53:14,120 --> 01:53:16,840
Speaker 2: throwing for two hundred yards, first time that's happened in

2526
01:53:16,920 --> 01:53:19,200
Speaker 2: five years. And he's gone back to back games without

2527
01:53:19,200 --> 01:53:22,479
Speaker 2: throwing a touchdown, the first time that's happened in six years.

2528
01:53:22,680 --> 01:53:24,720
Speaker 2: But when you have somebody like Derreck Henry, you can

2529
01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:27,360
Speaker 2: tote the ball at four point seven yards at carry

2530
01:53:27,400 --> 01:53:31,120
Speaker 2: and is really tough to tackle, you've you've got a chance.

2531
01:53:31,200 --> 01:53:34,400
Speaker 2: And he's he's rolling like, oh, he never gets old.

2532
01:53:34,479 --> 01:53:36,400
Speaker 2: It seems he just keeps rolling right along.

2533
01:53:36,760 --> 01:53:37,000
Speaker 8: It is.

2534
01:53:37,120 --> 01:53:40,240
Speaker 3: It's incredible. And the guy his size, he is a

2535
01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:43,680
Speaker 3: physical specimen, there's no question about it. And they're one

2536
01:53:43,720 --> 01:53:45,800
Speaker 3: of the only teams in the NFL that still run

2537
01:53:45,880 --> 01:53:50,000
Speaker 3: a true fullback offensively, and Patrick Ricard who can. He's

2538
01:53:50,120 --> 01:53:53,000
Speaker 3: very versatile, he can play both ways. He gets them

2539
01:53:53,040 --> 01:53:58,320
Speaker 3: some defensive snaps at defensive tackle, so he's he's an

2540
01:53:58,439 --> 01:54:02,920
Speaker 3: unbelievable football player. Mark Andrews at tight end is a force.

2541
01:54:03,080 --> 01:54:06,479
Speaker 3: You know, they say Flowers at the receiver position can

2542
01:54:06,840 --> 01:54:09,240
Speaker 3: can take it deep for shot Bateman or rookie is

2543
01:54:09,320 --> 01:54:12,680
Speaker 3: playing well for them. But I do think I think

2544
01:54:12,760 --> 01:54:15,599
Speaker 3: it's gonna come down to who runs the ball best

2545
01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:18,760
Speaker 3: in this football game. I think both defenses are going

2546
01:54:18,800 --> 01:54:20,680
Speaker 3: to really try to, you know, stack the line of

2547
01:54:20,720 --> 01:54:23,320
Speaker 3: scrimmage to stop the running game. And who's going to

2548
01:54:23,360 --> 01:54:24,479
Speaker 3: be able to solve that equation?

2549
01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:26,880
Speaker 2: We were talking off air. I looked at the weather

2550
01:54:27,000 --> 01:54:30,400
Speaker 2: forecast this morning for Thursday in Baltimore. I saw at

2551
01:54:30,560 --> 01:54:34,080
Speaker 2: night thirty two degrees windy with gusting wins up to

2552
01:54:34,200 --> 01:54:36,760
Speaker 2: twenty five miles an hour. If that doesn't screen me

2553
01:54:36,840 --> 01:54:37,680
Speaker 2: better run the football.

2554
01:54:37,720 --> 01:54:40,440
Speaker 3: I don't know what does. Yeah, absolutely, particularly that win,

2555
01:54:40,600 --> 01:54:43,760
Speaker 3: you know, I mean thirty two that's chilli. Yeah. But players,

2556
01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:47,960
Speaker 3: you know, the players can handle freezing temperature, literally freezing

2557
01:54:47,960 --> 01:54:50,840
Speaker 3: at thirty two degrees on the thermometer. But man that

2558
01:54:51,040 --> 01:54:53,320
Speaker 3: win twenty five miles an hour. That's a stiff Reezon

2559
01:54:53,360 --> 01:54:55,960
Speaker 3: now that will that'll move the football around on you

2560
01:54:56,000 --> 01:54:56,720
Speaker 3: a little bit. Boy.

2561
01:54:56,760 --> 01:55:00,360
Speaker 2: In the two names you mentioned offensively, Derrick Henry, we've

2562
01:55:00,400 --> 01:55:03,440
Speaker 2: mentioned Bengals gotta tackle better. He better tackle Derek Henry

2563
01:55:03,640 --> 01:55:06,520
Speaker 2: out in trouble covering the tight end. Better cover Andrews,

2564
01:55:06,600 --> 01:55:10,040
Speaker 2: who haves He has five touchdowns, He's second on the

2565
01:55:10,040 --> 01:55:11,960
Speaker 2: team in touchdowns this year, to go with his thirty

2566
01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:12,640
Speaker 2: three catches.

2567
01:55:12,800 --> 01:55:15,720
Speaker 3: And he's been a Bengal killer. Yes, he has hurt

2568
01:55:15,800 --> 01:55:19,680
Speaker 3: the Bengals multiple times. I mean, I will tell you

2569
01:55:19,800 --> 01:55:26,080
Speaker 3: that there's no question Marvin lewis just. I mean, he

2570
01:55:26,480 --> 01:55:30,200
Speaker 3: respected the Baltimore Ravens. But the guy that hurt him

2571
01:55:30,440 --> 01:55:33,440
Speaker 3: and gave him tremendous headaches of Mark Andrews.

2572
01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:37,240
Speaker 2: Let's take our final time out. When we continue, Dave tomorrow.

2573
01:55:37,320 --> 01:55:40,200
Speaker 2: Could he a significant day for our guy? Ken Anderson

2574
01:55:40,480 --> 01:55:43,760
Speaker 2: is the next step in the cutdown to the Hall

2575
01:55:43,760 --> 01:55:46,560
Speaker 2: of Fame. Let's talk about that as we continue. He's

2576
01:55:46,640 --> 01:55:49,080
Speaker 2: Dave Lapham, I'm Lance, but callister. It's Bengals on on

2577
01:55:49,080 --> 01:55:53,080
Speaker 2: the Bengals Radio Network at ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station.

2578
01:55:58,800 --> 01:56:01,440
Speaker 2: All right, down there we go, final segment of the

2579
01:56:01,520 --> 01:56:03,080
Speaker 2: night on the show We Call Bengals on and the

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Speaker 2: Bengals Radio Network in ESPN fifteen thirty on Lance Bacallister,

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Speaker 2: He is Dave Lapham and Tomorrow a significant day. Nine

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Speaker 2: individuals have reached the semi finalist stage in the seniors

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Speaker 2: category for the Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. They started at one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 2: two nominees. They're down to nine semi finalists.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 2: The Blue Ribbon Committee meets tomorrow Tuesday to determine three

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Speaker 2: former players who become finalist for the new class, and

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Speaker 2: that will be unveiled early in December. The nine semi

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Speaker 2: finalists at this point Roger Craig, Henry Ellard, L. C. Greenwood,

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Speaker 2: Joe Jacobi, Eddie Medder, Stanley Morgan, Steve Tasker, Otis Taylor,

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Speaker 2: and our guy Kenny Anderson is one more cutdown away

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Speaker 2: from advancing to the finals for the Pro Football Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame. Big day tomorrow. Best of luck to Kenny,

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Speaker 2: Best to luck to Kenny and all. Though those guys

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Speaker 2: were great football players, but they didn't play quarterback. Ken

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Speaker 2: Anderson played quarterback the.

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Speaker 3: Most important position in all of sports, not just football,

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Speaker 3: I mean all of sports. That's what's being said by

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Speaker 3: everybody that follows sports these days. And Kenny Anderson played

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Speaker 3: it so well. I'll tell you what. Bill Walsh was

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Speaker 3: amazed when he went up to Tiny Augustan and worked

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Speaker 3: out Kenny Anderson. And I remember him coming back saying

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Speaker 3: that the report that he filed, I saw a copy

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Speaker 3: of it. Mike Brown, let me read the copy of it.

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Speaker 3: How accurate he said. This kid throws the football as

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Speaker 3: accurately as I have ever seen. He should be a

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Speaker 3: first round pick, but he might be there in rounds

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Speaker 3: two and three, and we got to be ready to

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Speaker 3: pull the trigger. Man, oh man.

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Speaker 2: I don't know who makes up the Blue Ribbon committee

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Speaker 2: that is making this final decision. I just I feel

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Speaker 2: sometimes that I'd like to take some voters who might

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Speaker 2: be on a younger side and drop him into football

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Speaker 2: in the seventies and eighties and understand the way the

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Speaker 2: game was played then compared to now. I understand just

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Speaker 2: how good Kenny. Kenny would have been good in any era.

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Speaker 2: But just I don't want him short changed because the

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Speaker 2: numbers may be different than a than a Drew Brees,

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, Peyton, somebody from this era, right, It just

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Speaker 2: it should translate better in the understanding of just how

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Speaker 2: damn good Kenny was.

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Speaker 3: I mean, nowadays, throw the ball forty times game is?

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Speaker 3: You know, no big deal. Back in the day, I

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Speaker 3: mean it was. If you throw it twenty five times,

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Speaker 3: that was a lot. Forty times was unheard of, maybe

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Speaker 3: in overtime or double overtime for something. But and and

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Speaker 3: Kenny put up big, big numbers, you know, throwing it

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Speaker 3: twenty five times a game. I'm telling you, if you

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Speaker 3: were playing in today's era, he would be rewriting the

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Speaker 3: record book for attempts, completions, yards, touchdowns, you name it.

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Speaker 3: Kenny Anderson would have all the records across the board.

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Speaker 2: One name that also popped out on this list. To

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Speaker 2: me to ask you about when I say L. C. Green,

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Speaker 2: what do you think of?

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Speaker 3: Tell me about it?

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Speaker 2: Sorry to bring up bad memories day, Tell me memories

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Speaker 2: of Greenwood.

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Speaker 3: I think of the steel curtain defense and automatically, boy,

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Speaker 3: but automatically comes right right in my face, slaps me away.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you. And of course I played against Joe Green.

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Speaker 3: Joe Green was the guy that I had to try

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Speaker 3: to block in the steel curtain defense. But I played

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Speaker 3: right next to Vernon Suckie Holland and Sukie and Elsie

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Speaker 3: Greenwood had some battles.

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Speaker 17: Man.

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Speaker 3: Elsie was tall, but he was long, long arms, long legs,

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Speaker 3: big feet, big hands. He was very unusual. It looked

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Speaker 3: like you could have played in the NBA. He was

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Speaker 3: built like that, but a sturdy you know, like a

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Speaker 3: very physical NBA type player, very strong guy. You know,

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Speaker 3: he worked in the weight room to put on good,

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Speaker 3: good muscle mass and did a hell of a job

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Speaker 3: of it. But boy, I'll tell you what those steel

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Speaker 3: curtain defenses in Elsie Greenwood, man, I'll tell you they

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Speaker 3: they could They could play. They played the game, They

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Speaker 3: played the game the right way, and they played it hard.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: The other thing that jumps out of else Greenwood. And

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Speaker 2: we talk a lot about identifying talent and how good

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Speaker 2: Paul Brown was. Yeah, and you look at the Steelers'

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Speaker 2: ability to identify Elsie Greenwood was a tenth round pick

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Speaker 2: out of Arkansas Pine Bluff who winds up with seventy

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Speaker 2: eight career sacks, six time pro bowler, and just that

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Speaker 2: eye for talent. In being able to scour and find

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Speaker 2: it anywhere around the country.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Chuck Nole, who played for Paul Brown with

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Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns, he was a messenger guard, so he

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Speaker 3: knew great interior or he knew great offensive or defensive lineman,

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Speaker 3: interior or exterier. And I'm sure he gave the thumbs

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Speaker 3: up the AOK to draft Elsie Greenwood, particularly in the

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Speaker 3: tenth round. Man, that's unbelievable for a guy of that

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Speaker 3: talent to last until the tenth round.

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Speaker 2: That happened sometimes, Yep, no doubt. And again, those nine

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Speaker 2: are all have outstanding resume. Steve Tasker arguably the greatest

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Speaker 2: special teamers of all time. Jo Jacobe a heck of

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Speaker 2: an offensive line rocker, Craig dual threat thousand yards receiving

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Speaker 2: thousand yard rushing in the same season for the Niners.

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Speaker 3: That's nuts.

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Speaker 2: But man, just our fingers are crossed. And we're thinking

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Speaker 2: about Kenny tomorrow as they cut it down to three finalists.

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Speaker 2: And here's to Kenny Anderson being one of those final three.

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Speaker 3: Best The luck, my friend, You've earned it, you deserve.

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Speaker 2: It, absolutely all right. We are out of time. We'll

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Speaker 2: be back at you one week from tonight, Thanksgiving in Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: For will it be crab cakes for Thanksgiving? Or will

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Speaker 2: it be turkey for things? How about turkey for Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 2: Dave with a side of crab cakes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe a little crab cake advertiser, and then just

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Speaker 3: kill the turkey man. Just worked that bird hard.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, Happy Thanksgiving to you and to you and

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Speaker 2: to everybody listening. And we'll catch you one from tonight.

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Speaker 2: Sound like a plan.

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Speaker 3: Sounds like a big time plan. Sir.

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Speaker 2: He's Dave Lapham, I'm Lance Pacalister. This has been Bengals

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