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Speaker 1: Not in a few minutes? Why I can talk about

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Speaker 1: HM, love it never had that one cold spaghetti overtoast.

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Speaker 1: Well, I was curious, is it just is it just

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Speaker 1: Well so we could just do instead of alcohol, we

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Speaker 2: Michael, one of our favorites growing up.

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Speaker 1: We're cold barbecued baked beans on bread, great sandwich. So

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Speaker 1: the collection of intelligence is not a expressive conduct, it's

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Speaker 1: an operational conduct. So when information is persistently gathered, you

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Speaker 1: That parallels a military operation. In multiple instances in Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: shot her mouth off way too early saying some really

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Speaker 1: he probably also told Stephen Miller, you stand down too,

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Speaker 1: because right now this is me, Tom Holman and Tim Walls,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna do this. I don't necessarily like to

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Speaker 1: see presidents get that involved, but there are times when

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Speaker 1: it's necessary. Just like when I was trying to get

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Speaker 1: with the Insurrection Act, he just blinked. Bush blinked. I

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Speaker 1: don't think Trump's gonna blink one iota. He's got this

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Speaker 1: person there. Now that person reports directly to him. We're

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Speaker 1: already seeing some reaction from Tim Walls with the deployment

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Speaker 1: of the State Troopers. So slowly but surely things are

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Speaker 1: getting under control. And then Bulvino gets sent off, he

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Speaker 1: gets sent back to California, and the cabal jumps in

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Speaker 1: and says, oh my gosh, look he's gonna get fired.

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Speaker 1: He's been no Trump jumps in squashes that trump'son can

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Speaker 1: and Trump is doing exactly everything that he knows is

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Speaker 1: going to lead to what he ultimately wants, and that

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Speaker 1: is getting those, as they say, the really bad ones

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Speaker 1: out of Minnesota without ICE pulling out. And now Gavin Newsom, JD. Pritzker,

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Speaker 1: Kathy Hochel, are you watching because Tim Walls has now

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Speaker 1: sent out the State Patrol to protect ICE agents from

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Speaker 1: all the harassment of this rocketeer influenced, corrupt organization that's

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Speaker 1: operating in Minnesota and is probably ready to start operating

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Speaker 1: in your states. So Trump's now established the baseline. Trump's

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Speaker 1: established the operational tempo, and the Democrats once again your

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Speaker 1: second heir,