1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,600 Speaker 1: There we go. 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 2: Your Home for the twelfth Man probably presents the twelfth 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 2: Man Playoff Round Table Show, brought to you by Seattle's 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 2: closest sports book, Snow paull Me Casino and Hotel on 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 2: your Home for the twelfth Man, the NFL Playoffs and 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: Super Bowl sixty Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: r FM. Here's your host, Dave Softy Muller, all. 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 3: Right, three three on a Friday afternoon, live from the 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 3: Occidental Hall right across from loom And Field, right here 10 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 3: on ninety three to three KJRFM. My advice, by the 11 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 3: way to you is getting down here right now for 12 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 3: the game from the market is gonna go cool Man 13 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 3: and absolute zoo. Well, they're already making preparations. They're moving 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 3: all the homeless people out, getting all the businesses in 15 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 3: the hot talk stands, the barbecue pork ribs for tomorrow, 16 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 3: getting ready for back tomorrow at Loumin Field, making the 17 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 3: place all look nice and pretty for national TV and 18 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 3: all the national media coming into this thing. But we 19 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 3: don't get the guys together very often. And I would 20 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 3: just say that to steal a line from Herb brooks Man. 21 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 3: Great Moments, call for great radio, and we're about to 22 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 3: do some great radio here because we got Chuck Bow 23 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 3: joining us on one line, we got Ian Fernest joining 24 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 3: us on the other. And actually, guys, I'm shocked that 25 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 3: Mark James Dick is sitting right here next to. 26 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: H Why are you shocked? 27 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 3: Because he should be on a plane to South Beach 28 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 3: getting ready for the Miami game on Monday night. If 29 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 3: he was a real fan, if he was a real 30 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 3: hard hurt Okay, okay, on a plane to South Florida 31 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 3: getting ready for a game. I am questioning your fan 32 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 3: right now. I have a flight on Sunday morning. Okay, okay, 33 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 3: just number one to four Lauderdale. 34 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 4: But if my ticket's not solidified after the Seahawks forty 35 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 4: nine Ers game on Saturday night, I am not getting 36 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 4: on that. 37 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 3: Wow, come on, man, big ten to one salary guy 38 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 3: like you. 39 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 4: Yeah right, yeah, once in a lifetime. Well it's been 40 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 4: one once in twenty three years lifetime. 41 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 5: Well, I was a little uncomfortable when he he was 42 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 5: telling me that they got the quarterback from Duke. 43 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: He started taking his clothes off. 44 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 6: A little bit uncomfortable already, So that was bad. 45 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 3: Well, Ian and Chuck, you're not missing anything, trust me 46 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 3: being in your respective spots. Hean is at the they'll 47 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 3: call me casino, Chuck is with us as well, and Chuck, 48 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 3: why don't we start with you? 49 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 7: Man? 50 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 3: First of all, thanks for waking up early from your nap. Man, 51 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 3: We appreciate that. 52 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 7: Pal. 53 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 6: After your morning show today, why don't we just go 54 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 6: round the room. 55 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 3: We'll do what Chuck first and you can jump in 56 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 3: after on just the vibe kind of like, what are. 57 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 6: You feeling for this thing tomorrow? 58 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 7: Man? 59 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 3: The Hawks are big favorites by NFL playoff standards, biggest favorite. 60 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 6: On the board by far tomorrow. 61 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 3: Last time these two teams played, the Hawks won the 62 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 3: game by ten, but they physically dominated San Francisco. What's 63 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 3: going through your your morning show brain, buddy, before this 64 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 3: game tomorrow? 65 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 5: Well, first and foremost, I'll say, I'm not at some 66 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,839 Speaker 5: fancy casino right now, but over here at my house 67 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 5: we could play strip poker until you like, so it 68 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 5: is an option for everybody out there to come over. 69 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 70 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 6: He was like, Okay, I'll be there. 71 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: This it's just Chuck. It's just Chuck. That's a pass, buddy. 72 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 5: I mean the Sam Darnold News kind of rocked me 73 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 5: and talking to Hugh today where he issued some concerns 74 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 5: over it, some serious concerns over it, that certainly didn't 75 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 5: make me feel better. I'm sure it's gonna be fine. 76 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sure I'm gonna go ahead and take 77 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 5: Mike McDonald and Sam Donald on their word that everything's fine. 78 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: But going into. 79 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 5: Thursday, before I heard that news, I mean, I just 80 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 5: felt so good about this matchup. I mean, at some 81 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 5: point in the season, you just stopped thinking about what 82 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 5: trick does Kyle Shanahan have up his sleeve, and what 83 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 5: trick does McDonald have up his sleeve? And what trick 84 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 5: do they have up their sleeve sleeve, you know, and 85 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 5: you're trying to figure you know, the x'es and o's 86 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 5: might end up negating themselves, and it just really comes 87 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 5: down to who's got the better players, who's got the 88 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 5: better roster, And through a lot of San Francisco injuries 89 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 5: this year, it's just hard for me to believe that 90 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 5: the forty nine ers can beat the Seahawks. Man from man, 91 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 5: I think they've just got an answer for everything as 92 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 5: long as our quarterback is healthy. So I'm feeling confident. 93 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 5: Maybe that's a scary thing. I went two for five 94 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 5: straight up this past week in the wildcard round, So 95 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 5: I'm not exactly on a roll picking playoff games right now, 96 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 5: but I'm feeling very confident. I just think the Seahawks 97 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 5: are gonna hammer them. 98 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 8: Ian cautiously optimistic, and I say that just because it's 99 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 8: the playoffs, Like we all know how it happens every year. 100 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 8: There's gonna be stuff that happens that no one expects, right, 101 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 8: that you don't see coming, you don't script it. We've 102 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 8: all talked about this game for the last five days 103 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 8: at nauseum, like we've every show on our station, every 104 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 8: host on our station, every guest on our station has 105 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 8: broken it down, and we've done that using what logic, 106 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 8: stats notes, what we've seen, all those things we've done 107 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 8: all that it doesn't matter tomorrow, because something will happen, 108 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 8: Like there will be something that happens that no one 109 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 8: could script out, and we're gonna say, oh. 110 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: My god, like I didn't see that coming. 111 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 8: And hopefully whatever that is, it's good, Like it's really 112 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 8: good for Sea and I think it will. That's why 113 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 8: I say I'm cautiously optimistic. But the Donald thing's interesting. 114 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 8: I wonder what kind of games we're playing here. To 115 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 8: be honest with you, I really do the whole Fred 116 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 8: Warner's gonna play all week. Fred's gonna play, well boy, 117 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 8: you know. Then now Sam's got an injury, and if 118 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,679 Speaker 8: you're San Francisco, like, well, you know what, they're probably 119 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 8: going to brock Purty going what does that mean? Like 120 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 8: like if you have that, well, you can't drive the 121 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 8: ball down the field. Maybe it takes away this or 122 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 8: there's nothing there. He felt like a little zip on 123 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 8: his you know whatever happened and immediately goes inside. And 124 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 8: because of the way the NFL works these days, you 125 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 8: can't you don't have a probable designation anymore. So now 126 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 8: he's questionable, and so now there's these little mind games 127 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 8: going on. 128 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: I hope and trust that he's fine and is not limited. 129 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: I think that's the. 130 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 8: Biggest concern, is that he would be limited to what 131 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 8: he can do. But cautiously optimistic, knowing full well, especially 132 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 8: using Seahawk history for example, and all the playoff games 133 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 8: we've all watched over the years, something goofy's gonna happen. 134 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: I just hope it's for the right guys. 135 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, the question isn't does he play he's gonna start? Yes, 136 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 3: how much does it bother him? 137 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 7: Right? 138 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 6: Exactly? That's the question. 139 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: No, that's right. 140 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 5: And I don't worry about him being effective. What I 141 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 5: do worry about is is there a play? Is there 142 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 5: a play that he's rolling out right, he's got to 143 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 5: throw back to his left and all of a sudden 144 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 5: there's a knife in his side right, and and then 145 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 5: that affects him for the rest of the game. But 146 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 5: you know, my overall feeling for this game, I've got 147 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 5: a lot of respect for teams that have legacy and pedigree, 148 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 5: and we're facing a team that has legacy and pedigree 149 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 5: and an NFC championship coach, multiple time NFC Championship coach, 150 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 5: and Kyle Shanahan Brock Purty. Hey, I don't love brock 151 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 5: Purty as a quarterback, but you know what, he's a dog. 152 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: I gotta give him that. Yeah, he's a dog. 153 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 5: And if we were facing the Carolina Panthers in this game, 154 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 5: I would have zero worry, like zero worry, even though 155 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 5: they played well against the Rams last week. But since 156 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 5: we're playing a team that's got pride, got pedigree, got 157 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 5: a lot of players on that team that have played 158 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 5: in Super Bowls played in playoff games. I do think 159 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 5: it's not nearly going to be as easy as. 160 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: It was two weeks ago. But I still think the Seahawks. 161 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 3: Wan So Mark is with us obviously here from the 162 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 3: beer hall Occidental Beer Hall, and we play a little 163 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 3: game Mark on the air called you can only have one, 164 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 3: where I give you two propositions. You got to pick one. 165 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 3: You can't have both, all right, So here we go. 166 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 3: A win Saturday for the Seahawks or a win Monday 167 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 3: for Miami. 168 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: That's I can have both. 169 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 6: Okay, I'm not answering that question. I can't have both. 170 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 6: I'm not answering that. I'm in charge. Here, answer the 171 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 6: damn you already know the answer to the question. I believe, 172 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 6: I believe the fifth. The answer is yes. The answer 173 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 6: is yes. The answer is yes. 174 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 4: So but listen, they haven't won a playoff game at 175 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 4: home in nine years, basically Detroit, Matthew Stafford that game, 176 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 4: Thomas Rawls. Yeah, so you're going way back. But I 177 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 4: haven't been at this stadium for a playoff game. What 178 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 4: I just got to ask you, softy, dick Ian, Chuck Jackson, 179 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 4: what is this place like I'll tell you like tell 180 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 4: me in a word. 181 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 6: It's simple. Some people put can you hear me right now? Loud? 182 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 6: And you won't hear me on Saturday night. That's how 183 00:07:58,320 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 6: loud it be. 184 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: Were you there at the Rams game? 185 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 7: Yeah? 186 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 5: Yes, that was as close to a playoff game as 187 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 5: we've had in quite a while. 188 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 6: Your ears will that was That was good vibe. 189 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 3: You know how some parents like to put headphones on 190 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 3: their little babies in the game. 191 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 6: You might want to do that for the game on Saturday. 192 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 3: And this is your If you're breaking your cherry tomorrow 193 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 3: night at bloom And Field, you may want to put 194 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 3: some headphones on. 195 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 6: Pop. I have a station obligation a muckleshoot at Galaxy, so. 196 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 4: Actually won't be there, but I just want to I 197 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 4: want to know, and I mean listen. 198 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: You might want to put socks on your hands too, 199 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: but listen. 200 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 4: It's it's interesting that the season started with the forty 201 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 4: nine ers coming into town. If you look at and 202 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 4: you don't even break it down by division, the top 203 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 4: three teams in the in the NFC where the Seahawks, 204 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 4: I record, Seahawks Rams forty nine ers, So now here 205 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 4: come the forty nine ers. They persevere through all this adversity, 206 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 4: all these injuries. George Kittle's done for the next year, 207 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 4: asked Jason Tatum, what it's like to tearing achilles, And 208 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 4: yet here they are. 209 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 6: So my question is this, like how are they here? 210 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 4: Like how did they get by the defending Super Bowl 211 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 4: champions last week on the road, Like it'st a team 212 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 4: that went right through at your Super Bowl watch party 213 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 4: at EQC last. 214 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 3: Year they went through Kansas City with Kansas City was 215 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 3: on the verge of a three pet Well, I would 216 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 3: say Philadelphia is not nearly as good. They've been kind 217 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 3: of a mess all year long, obviously, But Chuck, I 218 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 3: just think for like what Dick said for San Francisco, 219 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 3: I mean, we were kind of getting nervous looking at 220 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 3: their schedule in the month of December, that hey, this 221 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 3: might be a problem, like they might be there, and 222 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 3: they were there, and then, like you said, Heian, weird 223 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 3: things happened. But weird things did happen, Chuck. In Week eighteen, 224 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 3: because Christian McCaffrey dropped the pass that got picked off 225 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: by Drake Thomas. What she never does, Jason Myers misses 226 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 3: two field goals. Chuck and then Sam Darnold just goes 227 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 3: blind on first down and misses a wide open Zach 228 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 3: Sharperney for an easy touchdown. 229 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 6: So there's your weird stuff. We've already had weird stuff. 230 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, and look, I mean, I give San Francisco all 231 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 5: the credit in the world. 232 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: I'd pick Kyle Shanahan for Coach of the Year. 233 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 5: I realize how good he is, I realize how tough 234 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 5: they are, I realize how resilient they've been this season. 235 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 5: But I just feel like the Seahawks have an answer 236 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 5: for everything. Let's use McCaffrey as an example. I mean, 237 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 5: he has not really been that effective on the ground 238 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 5: this year. I think he's averaging under three and a 239 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 5: half yards per carry, which is one of the worst 240 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 5: marks of any starter in the National Football League. Where 241 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 5: he really kills you now is in the passing game, 242 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 5: more so in the running game. Well, number one Seahawks 243 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 5: have the best run defense in the National Football League. 244 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 5: So that feels pretty good for me if I'm rooting 245 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:33,239 Speaker 5: for the Seahawks. 246 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: And then this Nick Emon worry. 247 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 5: I feel as a professional Christian McCaffrey snuffer outer. I mean, 248 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,719 Speaker 5: it's like the ideal guy to have with Christian McCaffrey 249 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 5: on the field trying to catch balls out of the backfield. 250 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: Philadelphia doesn't have an emon worry. And then I just feel. 251 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 5: That, you know, they've got thirteen personnel, which is something 252 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 5: they've been thriving with here toward the last part of 253 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 5: the regular season. Well, thirteen personnel's three tied on the field, 254 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 5: and your number one tight end is out of the game. 255 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 5: He's not playing at all, so everybody else gets moved 256 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 5: up the chain. And yeah, Tungas made a nice catch 257 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 5: against this. 258 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: Tungus, but it's a rekwall and miss jump. 259 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 5: Otherwise, you win that first game of the season, and 260 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 5: they're a far inferior roster now than they were the 261 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 5: time you faced them the first. 262 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 3: Every time you say Tungus, I just think of that 263 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 3: ampm commercial Ta Tungas like touchdowns. But you're your point, 264 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 3: and Ian, back to what you said earlier today, entered 265 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 3: Greg Cosell with you. That says the Seahawks defense, there's 266 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 3: no obvious weakness there that the Niners can take advantage of. 267 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 3: He did mention the Niners being a piss poor pass rush, 268 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 3: and he's right. I mean, they have twenty sacks on 269 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 3: the year, the Seahawks have forty seven, more than double 270 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 3: what San Francisco's got. Boss out warners out obviously, but 271 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 3: why why will things that he and the Hawks on 272 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 3: the wall for thirty eight minutes in that game, they 273 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 3: had three drives that yielded no points because of two 274 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 3: missfield goals and that first down debacle, and they took 275 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 3: a third of the game off the clock. 276 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I think the only thing is is 277 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 8: that you know, no matter who we talk to you 278 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 8: this week, everyone's kind of and we all know this. 279 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: We've all covered enough games over the years. 280 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 8: No games the same, right, like, no games the same, 281 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:14,719 Speaker 8: and things will be different, and it'll be different. I 282 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 8: mean they've been I'm sitting here at the casino. I've 283 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 8: watched They've replayed both San Francisco Seattle games this year 284 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 8: on the NFL network today and you know, now I'm 285 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 8: watching Rams Bears and all these games are different. You know, 286 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 8: players are hurt, same guys aren't there. If I could 287 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 8: just go back for a second, because because you guys 288 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 8: brought up the crowd, and you know, Dick, you and 289 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 8: Softy are season ticket holders. You guys have been to 290 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 8: probably pretty much every game for the last I don't 291 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 8: know how many years, two decades or something plus, right, 292 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 8: and I'm pushing forty years. 293 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I don't want to date all of us. 294 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm the old guy here. 295 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 8: But but listen, I think, you know, a year and 296 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 8: a half, two years ago, we were talking about what 297 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 8: happened to Lumanfield, right, and what happened to that? And 298 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 8: the only reason I feel a little different this year 299 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 8: than maybe you know, the last couple of times in 300 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 8: thirteen and fourteen when they had home field advantages, it 301 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 8: felt like Seattle was invincible in that stadium, absolutely invincible 302 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 8: in that stadium. And obviously that hasn't been the case 303 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 8: the last few years, even this year, you know, losing 304 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 8: to you know, losing to Tampa Bay and so forth. 305 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 8: But to answer the question, I think what Softie says, right, 306 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 8: I think tomorrow it's the return of what Lumenfield is 307 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 8: can be. And I think it's I think it's gonna 308 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 8: be something I've been lucky and Dave and Dick, you 309 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 8: guys have been to a lot of stadiums with the 310 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 8: Seahawks over the years too. I tell this, there is 311 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 8: no place, no place when it's really going and that 312 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 8: includes stupid arrowhead and I've been there five times, that 313 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 8: includes that dump. I'm telling there is no place like 314 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 8: Lumenfield and that makes a difference. That makes a difference 315 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 8: for the for the for the team. 316 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, well in the sacks have to adjust to that. 317 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 5: They've said themselves that it's hard for their defense to communicate. 318 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: It was it. 319 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 5: It never seemed to be hard for the lob, but 320 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 5: for this defense, they have not shown the consistent of 321 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 5: bill to communicate in that environment. 322 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: So hopefully that'll change. 323 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 5: What I want to if I were a Niner fan, 324 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 5: what I would want to see is a completely different 325 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 5: game plan by Robert sla I did not understand the 326 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 5: two deep safeties and say we're just gonna let ken 327 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 5: Walker and Sharboney have five to eight yards of carry 328 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 5: every time they touched the ball. They have got to 329 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 5: bring a safety up. They have got to stop that run, 330 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 5: and they have got. 331 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: To make Sam Darnold beat them. They didn't do that. 332 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: All have one good corner, So the right. 333 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 9: Way, by the way, talking about trash right, not this week. No, Now, 334 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 9: that's the thing last time. That's the thing I heard 335 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 9: I heard this week talking about Lenora this morning. I'm like, 336 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 9: you know, that's a good point. He hasn't been at all. 337 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 6: Imagine how that worked out. He's closing his mouth this week. 338 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, the whole thing about following Jay 339 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 3: Sam was dumb because they never do that. He's literally 340 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 3: barking about wanting to do something he knows as coach 341 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 3: will never let him do. But Mark Im, I'm just 342 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 3: kind of trying to figure out why I should not 343 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 3: feel confident, right, I mean, the obvious stuff is Donald's injury, 344 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 3: Like anybody can say that, turnovers inside the red zone, 345 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 3: your own end, whatever, anybody can say that, guys get hurt. Okay, 346 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 3: that's not why we're here. Why should I not feel confident? 347 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 3: If if we're in a debate class. Yeah, and I'm 348 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 3: mister negative, and I'm charging you, mister negativity. 349 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 6: Negative, Ned, I am. 350 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 3: Your your job is to debate why the Niners will 351 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 3: win this game tomorrow. 352 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 6: What would you say? 353 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 4: Well, that's they're gonna have to make Sam Donald turn 354 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 4: the ball over two times or more. 355 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 6: That's it. 356 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 4: That's what they're gonna have to do, and they're gonna 357 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 4: have to capitalize on those turnovers, and then they're gonna have. 358 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: To stop Charbonnet and Walker who tore them up. 359 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 4: This team had one hundred and seventy three total yards 360 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 4: thirteen nights ago, one hundred and seventy thrushing right, No, 361 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 4: nine total yards of offense. Yes, and Christian McCaffrey only 362 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 4: had twenty three yards rushing. So I mean, I'd like 363 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 4: to sit here and make a compelling point. The only way, 364 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 4: the only way the Seahawks lose this game is by 365 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 4: beating themselves. Okay, that's turning the ball over. And because 366 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 4: there's no way that this team, I don't care injuries 367 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 4: are not They're an inferior team. And let's not Can 368 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 4: I just say this again, Mike McDonald owns Kyle Shanahan. 369 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 4: He did it when he was a defensive coordinat at Baltimore. 370 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 4: They went to Santa Clara thirty three thirteen. They picked 371 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 4: him off five times, four picks by Brock Berdy and 372 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 4: one by Sam Darnold. Yeah, so Mike McDonald has become 373 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan's crypton. 374 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 3: Well, Chuck Mark just said he'd like to make a 375 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 3: compelling point about this game tomorrow. Make one for San Francisco. 376 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 3: Besides the obvious which is turnovers and things like that. 377 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 3: If I'm making you responsible for arguing why the Niners 378 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 3: would win, what would you say? 379 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 5: I think it's just how crazy football can work sometimes. 380 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: That's the chance that I give them. 381 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 5: I mean, let's face it, the Seahawks absolutely dominated them 382 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 5: in week number eighteen, and as you mentioned earlier, McCaffrey 383 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 5: catches that ball instead of it bouncing off of him. 384 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 5: If Mafey doesn't tip it, that's how that play started. 385 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 5: Ma Fey tips it. If he doesn't tip it and 386 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 5: throw it off, McCaffrey catches it. Ifcaffrey catches it somehow, 387 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 5: San Francisco pushes it in a game you dominated and 388 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 5: the forty nine ers are sitting there within three points 389 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter. Football can be crazy sometimes, and 390 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 5: so if the Seahawks allow them to linger, if they 391 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 5: if Jason Myers misses a couple of kicks again, then yeah, 392 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 5: you give them a puncher's chance in the fourth quarter. 393 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 1: They can pull it off. I'm not saying that they 394 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: can't pull it off. 395 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 5: It just if I'm just here to predict who's gonna 396 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 5: win this football game. I mean, it just feels to 397 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 5: me like the Seahawks have just more of the Jimmies 398 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 5: than Joe's. They're just a team that's at least ten 399 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 5: points better than this team on paper right now. But yeah, 400 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 5: there's certainly a way you can lose it. I mean, 401 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 5: if you don't play sharp and if you turn the 402 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,959 Speaker 5: ball over and the wrong part of the field, then 403 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 5: you'll lose the football game. Guys, if I'm a Niners fan, 404 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 5: I'm resting my hopes on three Kyle Shanahan, Brock Purty 405 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 5: and Christian McCaffrey. 406 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: You have the advantage at running back. 407 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 5: You have a head coach that has been to four 408 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 5: NFC Championship games, which is mean, which means he has 409 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 5: won this game right four times in his career against 410 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 5: a coach that has never won a playoff game. And 411 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 5: you've got a quarterback that's five and two and has 412 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 5: beaten the Seahawks in the playoffs before against a quarterback 413 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 5: that has never won a playoff game. If I'm a 414 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 5: Niner fan, that's what I'm banking this. 415 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know it's funny because you think a 416 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 3: McDonald like that he's thirty eight, but got it, I mean, 417 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 3: he doesn't feel like he's thirty eight. 418 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 6: The guy feels like. 419 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 3: He knows what he's doing, that he should be here, 420 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 3: that he's been here before. But it's come back and 421 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 3: talk more about tomorrow. Guys, how we think this thing 422 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 3: is gonna go? I mean, Ian, you mentioned that these 423 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 3: games are always different. Well, in the last three games, 424 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 3: the Hawks and Niners have played thirty total points, sixteen 425 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 3: total points, and thirty seven total points. They've all been 426 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 3: low scoring games for three consecutive games going back the 427 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 3: last three. They had a game that was a higher 428 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 3: scoring game the first game two years ago, but the 429 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 3: last three we have all been fairly low scoring games. 430 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 3: So why do we think tomorrow maybe different? Or maybe 431 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 3: it won't be different? 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Quick run out 439 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 6: to Kenneth Walker, junning wide right. 440 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 5: Thirty thirty five, Blank's at tackle, spins out for the 441 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 5: first down. 442 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,719 Speaker 6: He converts up third and seventeen forty nine. 443 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 3: Ers get out leverage and linebackers get blown up. 444 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: Tatum Bethune very very late. 445 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 6: That is an absolute killer, you know what. I gotta 446 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 6: be honest with you. 447 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 3: We're here from the Occidental Hall across from loomen Field, 448 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 3: Ox where the door is open tomorrow at eleven A. 449 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 3: And we played that last week on our show. That's 450 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 3: K and BR Greg Papa, Tim Ryan, Ian, you know 451 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 3: those guys. I was kind of hoping for a little 452 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 3: more discuss from Greg Papa on that on that third 453 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 3: and seventeen call. 454 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 6: I thought he would be just petrified watching that thing. 455 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 3: But Ian Furness with us, Chuck Paladick, Fain, Mark James 456 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 3: Softy with you from the Ox Hall across from Lumenfield. 457 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 3: We're hanging out until seven o'clock tonight. By the way, 458 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 3: Lee Sterling joining us next segment and then bought the 459 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 3: hill from the game. 460 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 6: Will be here at four o'clock. 461 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 3: And Ian, you were talking to Greg Cosell about this 462 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,479 Speaker 3: today as well. And Ian, when do you start us 463 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 3: off here? Chuck, you can jump on after the running 464 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 3: game for the Seahawks. Man the last three games has 465 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 3: just been unbelievable. One hundred and seventy one, one hundred 466 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 3: and sixty three, one hundred and eighty all three of 467 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 3: them are season highs. Do you feel comfortable saying they 468 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 3: can continue that dominance tomorrow? 469 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 6: Ah? 470 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 8: Comfortable. I'm not comfortable if anything in the playoffs. I'll 471 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 8: be honest with you. Comfortable is a really strong word, 472 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 8: softy like comfortable to no. I think that's what they're 473 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 8: gonna definitely try to do. And you know this, this. 474 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: San Francisco defense isn't good. 475 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 8: That's what kind of is weird about the fact that 476 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 8: they only they didn't do much in terms of scoring 477 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 8: in that game a couple of weeks ago. 478 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I know we all. 479 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 8: Love Robert Sala jumping around his bald ass head on 480 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 8: the sideline and all that stuff, But you know what, dude, like, 481 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 8: you don't have the personnel. You don't have the guys. 482 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 8: You don't have the dudes. You can scheme up all 483 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 8: you want, No Jimmy's and Joe's they should be able 484 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 8: to run against these guys. Maybe Anthony Bradford won't miss 485 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 8: an assignment and make a block at some point, and 486 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 8: they'll be really good running the ball, but I don't 487 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 8: know they're gonna want to do that, especially if there 488 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 8: is any thought whatsoever that Donald is not one hundred percent. 489 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 8: You know, I was thinking back with the Donald stuff, 490 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 8: and you know, three of us on this are golfers, 491 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 8: and we're certainly not high level athletes. 492 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: I guess Faine would be the quo for yourself. Yeah, 493 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: but dude, I'm fifty one. I am no longer a highlight. 494 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 5: Not that I ever really was a high level athlete, 495 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 5: but I'm definitely not anymore. 496 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 8: But anybody listening could probably relate. You Guys can relate 497 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 8: to this if you tweak, like just say like your 498 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 8: back is hurting or something right, like you're something your 499 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 8: swing's jacked up automatically even if it's really shouldn't be, 500 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 8: and you get that it's not that hard. It not 501 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 8: that doesn't hurt that bad. And you know, we've all 502 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 8: talked to Humillin enough over the years throwing a football 503 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 8: and how your mechanics work is it's everything, and you 504 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 8: don't change mechanics, you know, in the middle of a season. 505 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 8: You don't change in the middle of a week or 506 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 8: anything like that. If in the back of his mind, 507 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 8: much like if you're in a golf swing and you're 508 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 8: sitting there, you think it might hurt sublimately, it's gonna 509 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 8: mess you up. 510 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: And so I think they're. 511 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 8: Like, if there truly is an oblique issue, I think 512 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 8: they're gonna really have to try to rely on the 513 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 8: run and San Francisco knows that they know. 514 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 6: Juck. 515 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 5: I realize now my confidence and the Seahawks is making 516 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 5: Ian uncomfortable, so very uncomfortable, Sorry about I mean, I 517 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 5: like that they're running the ball better here down the 518 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 5: end of the sea. I still have the least amount 519 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 5: of faith in the in the four phases, you know, 520 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 5: run defense, pass defense, pass offense, run offense. I still 521 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 5: think I have the least amount of confidence that what 522 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 5: I've seen out of this run offense is going to. 523 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 1: Show up in the playoffs. I will say that. 524 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 5: If they can get it going, and I know they 525 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 5: will commit to it, and particularly because of the Darnald 526 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 5: injury that Ian pointed out so well, some of the 527 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 5: factors there that man, I then then the confidence in 528 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 5: me really sores. So yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't say 529 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 5: I'm comfortable with where the running game is, but I'm 530 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 5: encouraged that it it did finish the regular season much stronger. 531 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I just don't want to let freak 532 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 3: incidents really discourage me much because Ian what you just said. 533 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 3: People wonder why the Hawkston's score more points, Well, they 534 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 3: scored thirteen. They should have had twenty six. Yeah, two 535 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 3: miss field goals. They had a wide open player on 536 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 3: first and goal, but Sam Darnold's got a hit. Those 537 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 3: are freak things that don't happen very often. They put 538 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 3: up three hundred and sixty one yards mark on that defense, 539 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 3: all right, that would have been good enough for seventh 540 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 3: in the NFL this year. That's a buttload of yards. 541 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 3: They had no problem moving the ball. So I'm not 542 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 3: that discouraged about the offensive performance in Week eighteen because 543 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 3: it took some freak incidents to keep thirteen points off 544 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 3: the board. 545 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 4: But are you concerned with the fact that they're thirtieth 546 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 4: in the NFL in red zone touchdown percent? 547 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 6: Absolutely. 548 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 4: We've been talking about that for a month, so Humillan 549 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 4: and Humilian has been the one who's brought this up 550 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 4: some You all credit to him on that forty one 551 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 4: percent red zone touchdown percent since week ten. I'm concerned 552 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 4: about that because in the playoffs, you can't just settle 553 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 4: for threes. 554 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 6: You know, we don't need Steph Curry, you need seven. 555 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 6: You know you can't. 556 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 7: You can't. 557 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 6: Well you're shaking your head, but you can't. 558 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 3: Softy, I'm shaking my head because I wonder if they 559 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 3: can do that in this game with our defense. They 560 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 3: need two touchdown obviously sew to scored re touch but 561 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 3: does that discourage them from taking some crazy risks that 562 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 3: maybe they otherwise would have taken against a different offense. 563 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: That's possible. 564 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 5: And I mean your original question was, are you confident 565 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 5: in the run game? I would say I'm confident ish 566 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 5: in the run game, all. 567 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: Right, I'm more confident right now. 568 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 6: Take ish. 569 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 5: I'm more confident now than I was a month agoing 570 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,959 Speaker 5: And I don't know, I might challenge the assertion that 571 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 5: of the four phases, I might say the run game, 572 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 5: I'm a little more confident with the pass game right now, 573 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:28,479 Speaker 5: because I haven't seen the pass game since like October. So, 574 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 5: I mean, I've seen a couple of shots the JSN, 575 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 5: but I haven't seen a consistent pass game in two 576 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 5: months from this football. 577 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 3: Well, Mark to your point and Chuck Owing and John Binder, 578 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 3: we've been talking about the red zone defense now for 579 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 3: a month on this radio show. I mean, they're one 580 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 3: for six against the Niners in the red zone and 581 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 3: they've been terrible for the last month. Zone defense, red 582 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 3: zone offense, they've been awful. One for six touchdowns. Somebody 583 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 3: cares about field goals. We're talking touchdowns and one for 584 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 3: six against the Niners, Chuck, But I just keep going 585 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 3: back to one thing, and I agree with what Dick's 586 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 3: saying wholeheartedly. The passing game is been kind of a 587 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 3: little bumpy for sure, but I just have so much 588 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 3: faith in this defense. I don't see the Niners moving 589 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 3: the ball, Chuck on these guys tomorrow. 590 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 6: I just can't. 591 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 5: I don't either, And it's going to be interesting, really 592 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 5: interesting to see how Mike McDonald approaches a fourth and 593 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 5: goal from the four again, because I think there is 594 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 5: an argument for what he did, and that is I have. 595 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: Such confidence in my defense. 596 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 5: I want to try to get seven because they're going 597 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 5: to get the ball back at the four. I think 598 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 5: I can get the ball back again as opposed to 599 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 5: kicking a field goal here kicking it off, they get 600 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 5: the ball out at the thirty five of the forty 601 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 5: and have a very good chance of evening that score 602 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 5: at three to three. So I understand that. But also 603 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 5: to your point, Softy, the defense is playing so well 604 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 5: in the playoffs in a one and done elimination. Is 605 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 5: he going to take the points whenever he can get them? 606 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 5: I can't wait to see what he does strategically there. 607 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 3: Well, listen, I'm the guy that's been saying for years 608 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 3: and years and years, I'd rather have the great defense 609 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 3: and the great offense. And I said it going up 610 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 3: against Michigan in the National title game that I'd rather 611 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 3: have Michigan's defense than the Hosky offense, and that played 612 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 3: out to be true. 613 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 6: We got burned by that in that game. 614 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 3: But this kind of reminds me in some ways of 615 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 3: the twenty thirteen game. 616 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 6: From a Seahawk perspective. 617 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 3: This is the best defense they've had since then, right 618 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 3: since twenty thirteen? Questions, So if I go around the 619 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 3: room and I ask for predictions, like I mean, is 620 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 3: this even worth it? 621 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 6: Like asking for predictions for this game? 622 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 3: The only question is does anybody want to go over 623 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 3: the over in this game. Does anybody want to call 624 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 3: for a higher scoring game? Didn't go forty five and 625 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 3: a half? 626 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: I mean, the last three games, what are we looking at? 627 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 5: We're looking at thirteen to three, We're looking at what 628 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 5: seventeen thirteen, seventeen, thirty seventeen. I mean, no way, I 629 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 5: mean that's just my default. Even before this defense was awesome. 630 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 5: A Seahawks San Francisco game. Look at the playoff game 631 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 5: three years ago against the four nine ers. A Seahawks 632 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 5: San Francisco game is gonna end in the thirties. 633 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: That's that's just what happens. 634 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 3: So Hawks win a close or a close scoring game, 635 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 3: Hawks are a low scoring game. 636 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 6: Chuck go ahead twenty three teen Seahawks. 637 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 8: Okay, Ian, Well, first of all, it's an American to 638 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 8: bet the unders, so I can't do that. 639 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: But I think you're so yeah. 640 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 6: I know, Ian. 641 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,959 Speaker 5: You know the great thing about betting under you're always 642 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 5: a winner until you're not. 643 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 6: You're always a luxer. 644 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: That's a great point. You know what I was thinking. 645 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: I was I looked back. 646 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 8: I feel like this is gonna be a lot like 647 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 8: the game that they played three years ago in in 648 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 8: Santa Clara. And what I mean by that is this 649 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,239 Speaker 8: Seattle goes down there. Everyone thought they were gonna get 650 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 8: their doors blown off by the forty nine ers. And 651 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 8: if you remember what happened in that game first half, 652 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 8: so you don't have the lead of the half, yes, 653 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 8: right now, field goal? Right they they had the lead 654 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 8: of the half because even though San Francisco outgained them 655 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 8: by about one hundred yards in the first half, they 656 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 8: had somehow had a one point lead. We were in 657 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 8: the press box, no word of a lie, getting ready 658 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 8: to book travel for wherever the hell we are supposed 659 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 8: to go the next week for the next game. Like 660 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 8: that's like, and we're thinking, these guys are gonna pull 661 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 8: this off. Pete's gonna pull some magic. Shanahan's gonna melt down. 662 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 8: That's what's gonna happen. This is what happened, and this 663 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 8: is why I think's gonna happen tomorrow. This is San 664 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 8: Francisco's second half drives. Touchdown off the kickoff, eighty yard 665 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 8: drive took like eight minutes, touchdown off a Gino Smith fumble, 666 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 8: touchdown off a punt that was another seventy five yard drive, 667 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 8: and then a Gino Smith interception field goal. So twenty 668 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 8: four unanswered points. Thanks for coming. I think we're gonna 669 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 8: see something similar tomorrow. It's gonna be the other way around, Seattle. 670 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 8: It's gonna win going away, but we will not be comfortable. 671 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 8: We will not be comfortable until late all right. 672 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 4: Mark, So the Seahawks obviously didn't play last week, went 673 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 4: to bye. They are now the odds on favorite to 674 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 4: win the NFC at plus one twenty rams or plus 675 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 4: one fifty. According to pet MGM, Seahawks now are the 676 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 4: favorite to win the Super Bowl plus three hundred rams 677 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 4: or plus three twenty What changed in a week? 678 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 6: Nothing? 679 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 4: Seahawks didn't play, rams did, yet they're the favorite. I 680 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 4: don't think there's any chance the Seahawks lose tomorrow. 681 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 6: I think a lot of people you okay. 682 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 3: Time, last time I heard that you the Mariners pissed 683 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 3: away four out of five, I. 684 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 6: Said, so, I said, yeah, yeah, freezing cold takes. Yeah, 685 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 6: freezing cold takes. 686 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 4: In September thirteenth, I said the Miami Hurricanes are the 687 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 4: best team in college football. 688 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: How that age pretty well? 689 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 4: I'd say, like like charlist the run now tomorrow, there's 690 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 4: no chance they lose this game, and I'll just say this, 691 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 4: just get ready for championship Sunday. 692 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 6: You can see the rams A Bears. 693 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 5: Seven of the last eight regular season games against Niners 694 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 5: under forty five and a half. 695 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 8: These guys put some juice on that right now. 696 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 3: I think it's work release Day and Alcatra. These guys 697 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 3: are coming up for a weekend. All right, Mark chuck Ian, 698 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 3: thank you, great stuff, and we'll hear your Monday guys. 699 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 6: Good stuff, guys. All right, get in for anest. 700 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 3: Mark James Dick Faine with us here at the Hall 701 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 3: at Occidental the Ox. We're hanging out until seven o'clock. 702 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 3: Lee Sterling is going to join next, and then Bonte Hill. 703 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 3: We'll see if he's barking at all. At four o'clock 704 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 3: from the game in the Bay Area on ninety three 705 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 3: three kJ R FM. 706 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 2: It it's time for our weekly visit with gambling expert 707 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 2: Lee Sterling. No Paramount Sports brought to you by bail 708 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 2: Breaker Brewing, wherevery hop has grown in the Yakama Valley 709 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 2: family owned bold and proudly Pacific Northwest. Grab their flagship 710 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 2: top Cutter IPA, a citrusy, fine forward classic, at your 711 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 2: local grocery store or visit tap rooms in Seattle. And yeah, 712 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 2: come on now with Lee Sterling. Here's Suffie and Dial. 713 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 3: All right, here we go three forty nine a Friday afternoon, 714 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 3: live from the Occidental Hall across from Looming Field. This 715 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 3: place opens up at eleven o'clock am on Saturday morning. 716 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 3: There's gonna be discounts on booze, by the way, for 717 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 3: Seahawk fans. If you're wearing your Seahawk gear tomorrow, come 718 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 3: in here and they will take care of you. If 719 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 3: you're a Niner fan, they'll charge you double. By the way, 720 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,479 Speaker 3: don't even think about walking in your baby tomorrow. Well 721 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 3: here he is Lee Sterling, Paramount Sports, South Florida. I 722 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 3: getting ready for a big game on Monday night. 723 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 7: Lee. 724 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 3: Before we talk about the weekend, I got a question 725 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 3: for you. We just saw your buddy Mark James. All right, 726 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 3: it was down here. He's wearing his Hurricane gear. He's 727 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 3: all fired up for the game on Monday and he 728 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 3: says he's going to the game Monday night if you 729 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,479 Speaker 3: can get him a ticket. So the question is, is 730 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 3: Mark James going to the game on Monday night? 731 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 7: I'd say about a three percent chance. 732 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 6: You know what I'm not gonna be the one to 733 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 6: tell him that. 734 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, that's a text from you. 735 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 3: We can let him think about it for a couple 736 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 3: of days or a couple hours and think he's got 737 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 3: a shot, and then you're responsible for letting. 738 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 6: Him down, easy man. So three percent chance? 739 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 3: All right, Well, well listen, we'll let the guy walk 740 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 3: around thinking he's gonna go and let him enjoy it 741 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 3: for another night or so. 742 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 7: All right. 743 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 3: NFL Playoffs, Denver at home against Buffalo. 744 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 6: This line has gone back and forth. 745 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 3: It's now the Broncos minus one and a half against 746 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 3: the Bills at Mile High on Saturday tomorrow, one thirty. 747 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 7: What do you think a lot of people forget that 748 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 7: Buffalo won thirty one to seven last year as a 749 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 7: seven and a half point favored in that wildcard round game. 750 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 7: The score though, was ten to seven and a half. 751 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 7: I just think things are just totally different now. Travel 752 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 7: for Buffalo, go cross country. Josh Allen, who knows if 753 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 7: he had a concussion last week. He's got a hand injury, 754 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 7: playing with a twisted knee, his receivers getting no separation. 755 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 7: I just think Denver with an extra week here, the 756 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 7: way they are at home thirteen to one run the 757 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 7: last fourteen straight up at home and week eleven through eighteen. 758 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 7: Everyone talks about their passing game, but it's improved. Number 759 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 7: seven these last eight weeks here in the EPA per 760 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 7: drop back and number eight in passing success rate. Here, 761 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 7: I think they exact that revenge for Lasher's wildcard loss. 762 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 7: I like the Broncos here twenty six to twenty. 763 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 5: All right, New England hosting Houston, New England giving three 764 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 5: and the totals forty and a half. 765 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: They're expecting a low scoring game. What do you expect? 766 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 7: Yeah? And defense I think is going to be in 767 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 7: order here. I mean this Houston defense number one in 768 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 7: the NFL New England, the best tackling unit on defense. 769 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 7: No Nicocollins for Houston, So you got to think that 770 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 7: big plays aren't going to happen as much as often here. 771 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,959 Speaker 7: In legend MVP here of the NFL Patriots, Drake May 772 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 7: was made to look like a second year quarterback last 773 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 7: week against I thought an average Chargers defense here, So 774 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 7: I think defense is in order here. Total sitting at 775 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 7: forty and a half, I could see like a seventeen 776 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 7: to thirteen game. I don't know who's gonna win, But 777 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 7: we're gonna go with the under forty and a half 778 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 7: total points. 779 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 3: I love to take the under forty and a half 780 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 3: in the Houston, New England game. So couple of factoids 781 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 3: for you, Lee, But you, being the expert handicapper that 782 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 3: you are, you probably already know this. Brock Perty has 783 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 3: never lost the game, right diackt Lumanfield is four and 784 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 3: zho is that correct? 785 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 6: Here's the other stat. 786 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,280 Speaker 3: The Seahawks last played on January third, which was thirteen 787 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,919 Speaker 3: days ago. Niners played January eleventh, which is five days ago. 788 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 3: Since nineteen eighty four, forty two years ago, teams with 789 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 3: eight days of rest or more versus teams with five 790 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 3: days or rest or more are seven to zero in 791 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 3: the postseason. They've never lost. So something's got to give. 792 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 3: Either brock Perty loses tomorrow or the Seahawks become the 793 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 3: first team in forty two years with that kind of 794 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 3: rest to lose a football game. 795 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 6: So what happens tomorrow? Hawk's given seven oh. 796 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 7: I think that sist goes in trouble. I think the 797 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 7: only way they can win this game they got to 798 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 7: run the ball with Christian McCaffrey. They've got to make 799 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 7: this like a seven or eight possession game for each team. Here. 800 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 7: Look at the two teams that played in the playoff, 801 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 7: Philadelphia and then the last game regular season. He's only 802 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 7: carried the ball fifteen times versus Philly eight times against 803 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 7: Seattle when they were successful five game stretch. Carried between 804 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 7: twenty and twenty four times before that in the first 805 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 7: game this year twenty two times against Seattle. So that's 806 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,760 Speaker 7: the key. If they can get him the ball twenty 807 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 7: more times, they can shorten the game. They have a 808 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 7: chance here. But I think this Seattle defense, it's a 809 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 7: special here. I think the Seattle's are going to take 810 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,439 Speaker 7: advantage some of those injuries here in San Francisco. They're 811 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 7: not the same team and a little tougher playing a 812 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 7: team a couple of weeks later. But I think the 813 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 7: travel will catch up with San Francisco. And I just 814 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 7: don't trust brock Purty. Obviously, Sam Darnold, you want to 815 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 7: have him on the plus side of the field more. 816 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 7: He's much better there. But I think Seattle is the 817 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 7: right side. I'm taking Seattle here twenty eight twenty. 818 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: Well, I hope you're right. 819 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 5: If you are right, and we're looking at Chicago Rams winner, 820 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 5: I want the Bears. Am I going to get the 821 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 5: Bears there? Plus three and a half at home against 822 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 5: the Rams? 823 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 7: I think there's a good chance you are. I just 824 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 7: think that this Chicago team, I think it's about strike 825 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 7: twelve here. You know, they've won seven games for less 826 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 7: than two minutes here to go in the game. Obviously, 827 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 7: weather is a factor here. Win chills me minus the 828 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 7: minus range here, but Matt's that it has done well. 829 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 7: He has a plus record, a winning record in games 830 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 7: under forty degrees. I just don't think that the Bears 831 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 7: can cover Pooka. I also don't think they can cover 832 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 7: DeVante Adams. I think they're real weak there. Especially you 833 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 7: can attack the safeties. We've seen a couple teams do 834 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 7: that Green Bay, especially during the regular season, running crossing 835 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 7: patterns steep, and they just can't stay up with these 836 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 7: two guys. And the Bears are with out linebacker TJ. Edwards, 837 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 7: and when he's out, opponents have run for more than 838 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 7: six yards of carry here. Yep, I hate to say it. 839 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 7: Rams are going to be coming to Loomin here a 840 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 7: week from now. Rams here thirty one to. 841 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,359 Speaker 3: Twenty all right, Well, I know what I would do 842 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 3: if I were a Hurricane fan for this game Monday. 843 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 3: First of all, I'd be there no matter what it takes. 844 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 3: I'd be there, and you will be there on Monday night. 845 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 3: But I would play the emotional hedge all day. I'd 846 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 3: put a bunch of money on the Hoosiers on the 847 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 3: money line. If I win the game, great, If I 848 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 3: lose the game, I got a couple of bucks in 849 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 3: my pockets. So Indiana's given eight and a half. Now, 850 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,879 Speaker 3: wow against the Hurricanes on Monday. What do you think 851 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 3: are your kine's gonna pull this off Monday night? 852 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,959 Speaker 7: Well, you know they loved. Indiana's defense loves to mess 853 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 7: with the mind of offenses. First down, they almost always 854 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 7: run blitz, second and long. They almost always blitz. Even 855 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 7: some cornerback blitz is here, third and long. Something that's interesting. 856 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 7: They very rarely blitz, and I think by the defensive coordinator, 857 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 7: Corey Heatherman, being Kurt Signetti's defensive coordinator for three years 858 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 7: really helps a lot here. I've watched the tape of 859 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 7: the three games that Indiana was in until the end, 860 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 7: and I think that they're beatable. I mean, look at 861 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 7: the teams they played Penn State, they had to score, 862 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 7: last play the game, win it. They scored twenty seven 863 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 7: thirteen against Ohio State, twenty against Iowa. I think Miami's 864 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 7: the best defense that they've played, and I think Miami's 865 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 7: gonna play that underdog mantra here. They did it against 866 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 7: Nebraska in nineteen eighty three when people said it was 867 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 7: the best team ever. Nebraska was avage fifty two points 868 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 7: per game that year. They ended off up pulling off 869 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 7: the shaker Miami. I think they win the game outright. 870 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 7: I'm taking them plus eight and a half and I'm 871 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,320 Speaker 7: sprinkling a third of my wager on the money line. 872 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 1: The Kaanes win that. 873 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 7: Sixth national title and they get retribution here for twenty 874 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 7: three years later. 875 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 3: Well you know what the only way, Well, I'm fine 876 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 3: with that. I'm I'm rooting for Indiana. I think you 877 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 3: are too, because of what they did to Oregon. We 878 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 3: owe them that after what they did to Oregon. But 879 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 3: I would love for Mario Christobal to win this game 880 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 3: and then have the Miami parade down Eugene, Oregons downtown 881 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,240 Speaker 3: street nice and shove. 882 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 6: It right in their face. 883 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:40,240 Speaker 7: Man. 884 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,320 Speaker 6: All right, good stuff, Lee, We're talking a week, buddy, appreciate. 885 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 7: It, Pal, sounds good. Guys, see you all right. 886 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 6: At least starting with us. 887 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 3: Likes Denver minus the one and a half against Buffalo, 888 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 3: likes the under and the Jet Texan game. He likes 889 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 3: the Hawks minus the seven rams minus the three and 890 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 3: a half, and he likes the Hurricanes plus the eight 891 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 3: and a half against Indiana on Monday night. All right, 892 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,320 Speaker 3: Bonta Hill is set to join up next segment. You 893 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,280 Speaker 3: never know with him though. He could be on a plane, 894 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 3: he could be on a boat, he could be in 895 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 3: a car, he could. 896 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 6: Be doing anything right now. 897 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 3: So we're set to t have Banta Hill from the 898 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 3: game from San Francisco. 899 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 6: From the Bay Area. 900 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,280 Speaker 3: We continue from the Occidental Hall the Ox All Baby 901 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,280 Speaker 3: across from Lumen right here on ninety three three KJARFM.