1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Look, we found what's up Dave, What's up? 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 2: Ran? What's up? 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Date? 4 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 3: Rick? 5 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: Good to see Rick already gave us some goals in 6 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: the first hour. 7 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 2: What what? 8 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 3: Uh? 9 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: Oh? What'd you do? 10 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 4: I made a couple of bad choices for entertainment purposes. 11 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 4: So what I'm not used to on this show is 12 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 4: you guys tape everything and then they use them as drops. 13 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: So we were describing how wim I be colder weather 14 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: on Saturday potentially, and. 15 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 4: It's supposed to be the coldest day of the week. 16 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 4: I couldn't wait for you to get get hit or 17 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 4: to tell. 18 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: You the blankets, the heating blanket might come out. And 19 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,279 Speaker 1: we were just discussing that and then Rick, just out 20 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: of nowhere offered this. 21 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 4: I'm not going to say I've never sat on his lap. 22 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 4: I'm not going to say that. What in the actual 23 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 4: hell I know? Yeah, all the context, that sounds horrible. 24 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: In the moment. In the moment, that was funny. In 25 00:00:59,040 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: the moment. 26 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 4: I keep forgetting You guys tape everything. So I'm just 27 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 4: going to shut off. 28 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 5: So it would have been funnier had we not taped it. 29 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's out there, then it's gone. 30 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the world I live in, that's the world 31 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 4: I work in. So that's why you stayed employed anyway 32 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 4: so long. And iHeart is if they take half the 33 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 4: stuff that you did back in the day. I was 34 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 4: telling Ryan that off the air, you'd be in prison, 35 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 4: not that bad, No, you'd be there. There's a couple 36 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 4: of them that you would be like sighted, arrested, handcuffed 37 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 4: and booked, certainly canceled out. 38 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: I mean I would have been to day. I would 39 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: I know what your show is that I have. You 40 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: know what I stand by air. 41 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 5: There's nothing I have done on this station that would 42 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 5: require me to be canceled for, even back in the 43 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 5: canceled sort of culture days. 44 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 4: I bet Grant's got some stuff probably in his computer. 45 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 4: Bet he's nothing wrong with a sticky back either. Well, 46 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 4: sticky back don't get your canceled. So I don't know 47 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 4: what that even means to get your date. What's the 48 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 4: context of that. I'm sorry, time for the finger. I 49 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 4: talked over your response there. Yeah, yeah, anyway, good to 50 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 4: see you guys. 51 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: See this is a good text. Love listening to y'all 52 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app out here in South Carolina. You 53 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: think that Sean Payton kept the offense vanilla in the 54 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: last two weeks with the Chiefs and Chargers with the 55 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: idea of saving some better plays and game plan for 56 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: our playoffs. 57 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 4: Evan Evan, Evan, why way we have him at four thirty? 58 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 4: Evan Lucas Luke Evans, look, go join us? Good Lucas. 59 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 4: Good guy. Yep, good guy. 60 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: Evan. 61 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 4: I think he I think he bristled at the question, 62 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 4: but I do think again my take on that, and 63 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 4: I said it the last couple of games. I think 64 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 4: once it's a play caller speaking of NFL, once you 65 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 4: realize after a couple of series, like, what's the flow 66 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 4: of this game going to be, what's the other team 67 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 4: going to be able to do against my defense? 68 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 2: What are we looking at here? 69 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 5: And once you determined, and it was pretty easy to 70 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 5: determine that both Kansas City and the Chargers were not 71 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 5: with those two backup quarterbacks or in Kansas City's case, 72 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 5: back up to the backup, they were not going to 73 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 5: be able to handle the Broncos defense. Well, then I 74 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 5: think it's I think it's logical that you wouldn't want 75 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 5: to show too much you're going to show, you're going 76 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 5: to work on what they say is your stuff and 77 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 5: get better at your stuff and. 78 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 4: Try to win the game. For me, I thought they 79 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 4: just seemed like they were more conservative. I guess there's 80 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 4: a way to put it, because they could afford to 81 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 4: do that. I don't know why you would if you 82 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 4: knew you had the game in hand and you knew 83 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 4: that the Chargers were working to score. I don't know 84 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 4: why you wouldn't pull it back a little bit right. 85 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 4: Style points. Yeah, we talk about style points a lot, 86 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 4: and fans love, you know, see blowouts. 87 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 2: But to me, that was the right thing to do. 88 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:04,839 Speaker 2: I would have done the thing. 89 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: Well, there's a combination of things, and we talked about 90 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: it last week. There's a combination of things where you 91 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: can say, on one hand, maybe you'd like to see 92 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: a little better execution from the offense at times, especially 93 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: against the Chargers. But then simultaneously, Dave, I think pointed 94 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: out perfectly, said, you know, Shawn's looking at his call sheet, 95 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: you get the first couple of plays of the game, 96 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: You're watching Trey Lance out there, and you're just like, huh, oh, hey, 97 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: I know what this game is probably gonna look like. 98 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and just not use this section. 99 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe maybe you don't, you know, take some of 100 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 5: your shot plays. 101 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 2: Maybe. I mean, there's this. 102 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 4: I mean, it's not like he said, hey, I'm going 103 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 4: to become So it was not like a preseason game, right. 104 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 4: They prepared for the game, but I think they quickly 105 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 4: realized that they were. 106 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: Going to be in control of the game, you know. 107 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 5: And had they scored in the red zone, which I 108 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 5: think is the biggest key to Saturday's game, had they 109 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 5: scored in the red zone when they were there against 110 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 5: Kansas City and the Chargers, those scorers would have been 111 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 5: much more lopsided. 112 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to be holding back against 113 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: the Bills. I don't think you're right. I think this 114 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: is going to be one of those where you're gonna 115 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: show everything. And I told Rick at the beginning of 116 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: the show, and I remember telling you a little earlier 117 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: in the week. Scart isn't the word, but I was 118 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: concerned about the Bills. But now I have I flipped 119 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: either side. I can't wait to see what they do. 120 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see. 121 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 5: You don't feel about the Bills like you felt about 122 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 5: Oak City last year in the NBA? 123 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: Did you? 124 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 3: Oh? 125 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, because I think the Broncos. No, no, because 126 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: I think the Broncos can win this. I didn't think 127 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: the Nuggets coun win. 128 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 5: Do you have a poster of Brandon Cooks anywhere in 129 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 5: your house and it cooks? 130 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: I like how you think the most brandom player Brandon Cooks. 131 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 2: Brandon Cooks. 132 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: I do like Brandon Cook's. And remember I wanted Brandon 133 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: Cooks here. 134 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, a little while. Listen. 135 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 4: I think Brandon Cooks it can still do it at 136 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 4: a big catch last week, but. 137 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: You've got better hands. 138 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 4: I don't think there's any question about that. But if 139 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 4: I could ever have run like Brandon Cooks, I would 140 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:56,799 Speaker 4: have been illegal. 141 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: He's uh and that was such a still He's still 142 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: fast and they're gonna have a lot of speed on 143 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: the field, right, I mean between Cooks, Mikoel Hardman, I 144 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: imagine will get called up. I think Curtis Samuel is 145 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: probably gonna play in this game. 146 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 2: They said Hardman's activated. 147 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: They haven't said, but I mean again, they have like 148 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: three healthy wide receivers, and so is Tyrol Shaver. Palmer's 149 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: been on ir They got three like healthy wide receivers, 150 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: So I mean it's a guess that he's going to 151 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: be called up, but still it's gonna be a little 152 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: bit of limited thing there. And of course Josh Allen 153 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: is you know Josh Allen. So we said Garrett Boles 154 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: did admit they had a Ventilla game playing going to 155 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: last year. I think I think Garrett maybe in a 156 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: little bit of retrospect there more so than a this 157 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: is what we planned. 158 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: But I don't know. 159 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: That's my take on it. Why are you looking. 160 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 2: Okay? 161 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: Do you want to share? 162 00:06:54,920 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 4: If I? If I I you just thought, Garrett, what. 163 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: I you know what with the with the benefit of 164 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: conversations with people you know? Never mind, we got a 165 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: we don't have a traffic break here the time for a. 166 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 4: Break time we're supposed to be drinking, unless it's Friday 167 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 4: at five. 168 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 5: We do have a holiday party. So no, no, no, we 169 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 5: don't have the holiday party. The holiday party starts at five, right, 170 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 5: Are we. 171 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: On the air at five? 172 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 4: They've done this every single year, seriously, Yes, for this 173 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 4: is my thirty sixth year calling Broncos games, and thirty 174 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 4: six times consecutively. 175 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 2: They had the party when we're on the air. 176 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: It's pretty apparent. 177 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 2: I think, so I watch at the problem, slow learner, 178 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 2: but I get it. Yeah. 179 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's where are you going? That's what I call 180 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 4: a trend. 181 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: Though. I'm going to be here too with you. Six. 182 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,559 Speaker 2: I'm staying till six. Okay, Well you think I'm leaving 183 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 2: at five party, I didn't know. I mean, I've seen 184 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: you peel out of here in the morning sometimes, you 185 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 2: know I'll be here with you. Okay, good deal. I'm saying, 186 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: okay all the way to the end. 187 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's man, just fiddle over here. By the way, 188 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: it's nice that you acknowledged his morning show. 189 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 2: Was it a fiddle? Violin? Fiddle? 190 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 5: Isn't it is a fiddle the same as a violin? 191 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 5: Because I think it was a violin. You're a musical guy. 192 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: I should know, and my daughter plays violin. 193 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think fiddle is the same 194 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: as violent. 195 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: It probably isn't. I think I just said it fiddle 196 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: because it sounded folksy. 197 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 4: I guess, sort of folks to me, I always thought 198 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 4: it was the way you play it. 199 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: What are we going to get to the point? 200 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 4: Do you think fiddle and violin are the same instrument? 201 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 4: To me, it always has been like violin, though a concert, like, 202 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:53,599 Speaker 4: uh yeah, what does that mean? More like like a 203 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 4: jazz fiddle? To me is more country, more country rock. 204 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 2: Blue ground. 205 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 4: But what about the instrument. I think it's the same 206 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 4: instrument that could be it is. I feel like I 207 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 4: never would have known. I think it's four strings and 208 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 4: a little you know, the little wood, a little bit 209 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 4: the bull, right, four strings and a little wood fiddle, 210 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 4: a little wood and a horse hair bubble. Yeah, don't 211 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 4: read into this adolescent stream. 212 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: I like to say that you've learned, but you, you know, 213 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: continue to come on the show and say some. 214 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: Not even close to it. Oh really no, no, not 215 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 2: even oh no. 216 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 4: I guess you wouldn't be arrested for Bryan there, you know, 217 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 4: I would be fearful, okay, that you would have a 218 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 4: stroke if he went into his old, his old routine. 219 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 4: I think I think. 220 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: We just had to get out the disclaimer again. Man's 221 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: opinions do not represent KAO sports or you know, like, yeah, 222 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: that's what you have to do. By the way, fiddle 223 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: and violent are the same, Yeah, you guys right right 224 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: the style so fiddle means it's just a style of play. 225 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: So that you were right. 226 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 5: So I never would have thought that I mean, I 227 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 5: know a fiddler, well you like fiddler like deep. 228 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 4: South and you know that thing. But I didn't know 229 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 4: that was a that was the same exact interestment interestment instrument, instrument. 230 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 2: Instrument god dyslexic. 231 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 5: That like somebody who's a concert violinist was playing. 232 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 4: The same same, same instrument or very similar fiddle more 233 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 4: for folk, country, bluegrass, celtic music. But it's what I'm 234 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 4: saying though, it's the same instrument, right, same instrument for strings, 235 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 4: and they probably put different strings of the wood. I 236 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 4: would imagine, right, different strings and the wood. I'm not 237 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 4: even gonna saying there's a valid question. Would the wood 238 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 4: size be the same for a fiddle and a violin? 239 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 1: What a great question? 240 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 2: Don't you think that's a question. I don't know. 241 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: I gotta got a measuring tape. 242 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 4: Sure you know what the way I look at it, 243 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 4: even if it's not, you lie. 244 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: Quick question here and we're gonna have Luca Evans joining 245 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: us here in about ten minutes. 246 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 3: Day. 247 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: Can you elaborate on Josh Allen's interest in Denver when 248 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: playing Laramie and why he landed in Buffalo. It's kind 249 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: of a long story, imagine. 250 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, it's been it's been well chronicled. I think 251 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 5: I think Josh would love to have played here. And 252 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 5: I mean John always come out and said that was, 253 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 5: you know, one of those situations where he had to 254 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 5: get the staff to buy in on on Josh and 255 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 5: evidently got some pushback in that regard. I think the 256 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 5: I think the reason that the Broncos didn't make a 257 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 5: move for Josh Allen's directly tied to Paxton Lynch. 258 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 2: They went forward with I. 259 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 4: Think the sixteenth I think it was sixteenth pick in 260 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 4: the first round, and it was an absolute disaster, and 261 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 4: shortly thereafter here's Josh Allen available. Now I think Josh 262 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 4: has turned into fantastic player, hall of Fame player. But 263 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 4: I mean, coming out of college there were some questions 264 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 4: in terms of accuracy and other things, but man, oh man. 265 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 2: Is that he is a flat out player. Now. 266 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think they could have afforded another miss 267 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 4: after Paxton Lynch. The first game I called with you, 268 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 4: Dave was in Jacksonville Paxton Lynch. 269 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 2: That's right, he got started and won. They won that game. 270 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 4: I think that was his only I think Rick, I 271 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 4: think it was that his only win of his career 272 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 4: as a starter. I think I thought you were going 273 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 4: to say on the road, I think he was. I 274 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 4: think he never won one in four. He came back 275 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 4: the next week. You remember, well, you didn't do the 276 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 4: game with me. I think the Falcons were here, right, 277 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 4: and that didn't go well. I think he won one 278 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 4: game wow as an NFL starter, and that was the 279 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 4: game in Jacksonville. So he only started four games. He 280 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 4: started five games, I think, so. 281 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: One to four. 282 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 4: Yep, So would you say they didn't really give him 283 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 4: a fair shot? No five starts and he knew that 284 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 4: they had the wrong guy. There were I think there were. 285 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 4: There were other circumstances involved. You know, you have to 286 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 4: do It's one thing to say a team doesn't give 287 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 4: you a fair shot, or maybe a coach doesn't like you, 288 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 4: and you're not you know, you're not getting the kind 289 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 4: of look that you should get. But you have to 290 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 4: do your part two as a professional athlete. You're not 291 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 4: in college anymore, right, You're not. You're not staying up 292 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 4: all night playing video games, and you know, instead of 293 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 4: maybe studying tape and knowing what the playbook says, I mean, 294 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 4: you have to immerse yourself in the pro football culture 295 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 4: more so than ever if you're the quarterback, and I 296 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 4: just I don't think I don't think Paxton fully understood that. 297 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: That was the interaction with Sean Payton earlier this week. 298 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: Dave Logan, Ryan Edwards, Rick Lewis Lucas, thank you so 299 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: much for the time. 300 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 5: Man. 301 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 2: How are you? 302 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 3: Ah, Man, I'm uh, I'm doing well. You guys just 303 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 3: just had had to throw the clip on there. It's uh, 304 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 3: you know, it's been a it's been a weird last 305 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 3: couple of days. That thing really took off. 306 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 5: I'm gonna nickname you the pinata. 307 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: You know. 308 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 3: How it goes, Yeah, that's. 309 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 2: How it goes. 310 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: No. 311 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 4: Absolutely, so, as you look at this game and you've 312 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 4: you've done a great job covering the Broncos this season. 313 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 4: I mean what we're just kind of asking people that 314 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 4: do this and do it on a regular basis, what 315 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 4: couple of things are most important in your mind for 316 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 4: Saturday's game. 317 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 3: I think a couple of things. I would say number 318 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 3: one is is Buffalo's primary just general kind of weakness 319 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 3: as a team, particularly on the defensive side. It's just 320 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 3: you know, offensives that can run the ball. And I 321 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 3: think for you know, Sean Payton had had just a 322 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 3: really interesting sort of introspective look at himself as a 323 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 3: play caller, you know, after practice today and was just saying, 324 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 3: you know, a younger, as he's getting older, he might 325 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 3: kind of question you know, some of the you know, 326 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 3: if he's running a reverse at the eight yard line 327 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 3: or whatnot. And I think, you know, he said it 328 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 3: in a way that was almost you know, he has 329 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 3: to call plays with more conviction and be more decisive. 330 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 4: But to me, I. 331 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 3: Almost wonder, if you're you're Broncos Country, if you want 332 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 3: him to lean into the conservatism a little bit more 333 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 3: and say, you know, we're going to go into this 334 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 3: game and run the ball thirty to thirty five times, 335 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 3: you know, give R. J. Harvey and Julil McLaughlin their 336 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 3: touches and see what happens. So I think that, you know, 337 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 3: if if Denver can establish the ground game, I think 338 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 3: that's a huge key. And then also just you know, 339 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 3: it's been a consistent theme for Vance Joseph's defense all year, 340 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 3: even in a terrific season, is the ability to can 341 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 3: they consistently cover tight ends and running back in the 342 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 3: passing game, And this Bill's tight end room is you know, 343 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 3: as good as it gets with Kincaid, you know, Dawson 344 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 3: Knox and Jackson Hawes the rookie they got over there. 345 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 3: So you know, that's an interesting question because you know, 346 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 3: what do you do as a defense you get do 347 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 3: you do you play bigger to try and stop the run? 348 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 3: And James Cook do you you know, do you play more? 349 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 3: Jade barn who can you know check tight ends at times? 350 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 3: It'll be uh, it'll be interesting. Those are the two 351 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 3: things I kind of look up. 352 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 4: Hey, Lucas Rickles to kind of follow up on Dave's question, 353 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 4: if you could picture just one of two things that 354 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 4: would give the Broncos the best chance to win. What 355 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 4: did be stopping James Cook in the run game or 356 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 4: the Broncos being able to run effectively. 357 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 3: I'd say I'd say stopping James Cook. I think the 358 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 3: Broncos are looking at that, you know. Sean Payton pointed 359 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 3: to what Jacksonville did to limit him. I think fifteen carries, 360 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 3: you know, less than than fifty yards. And the Jaguars 361 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 3: really put themselves in a position to win that wildcard 362 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 3: matchup before you know, Josh Allen worked his magic and 363 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 3: they couldn't execute offensively. I think if Denver finds themselves 364 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 3: in a similar spot, you know, as to where Jacksonville 365 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 3: was and in that matchup, they feel pretty good about himselves. 366 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 1: How would you assess Bonix's play this season? 367 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 3: Who uh man, that's a. 368 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: That's a Rubik's. 369 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 3: Cube of a question. I would say overall, you know, 370 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 3: I don't know if you're grading a season, maybe it's 371 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 3: like A. I'd say it's like a B plus, you know, 372 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 3: be to a B plus factoring in kind of everything. 373 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 3: I think he and Sean Payton are still almost in 374 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 3: this process of figuring each other out of you know, 375 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 3: of of Sean Payton, figuring out how how though Nicks 376 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 3: fits out of his offense and into it. At times 377 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 3: He's had some obviously fantastic fourth quarter moments, as we know, 378 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 3: but the the numbers and the efficiency when he's under pressure, 379 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 3: when he's he's throwing kind of in the intermediate area 380 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 3: of the field, they aren't where I think you would 381 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 3: want them to be yet, And so overall, you know, 382 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 3: I think he's he's been one of the most clutch 383 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 3: quarterbacks in the league. That counts her for plenty. I 384 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 3: would I would I would give him a solid and 385 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 3: not spectacular grade overall. I would say, when. 386 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 5: You when you look at this Broncos team in throughout 387 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 5: the season, in in the big picture, is there a 388 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 5: spot or two that you think they have improved in 389 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 5: the most. 390 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great that's a great question. I would say, 391 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 3: I think this is a very hyper specific thing, but 392 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 3: I think at times early on in the year, you 393 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 3: saw just a real lack of ability to connect kind 394 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 3: of in in the deep passing game, or you know, 395 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 3: Bonex didn't seem like he had great chemistry with Troy 396 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 3: Franklin and in those situations or whomever it is. And 397 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 3: I think, you know, I'm going to shelve sort of 398 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 3: the last two games of the year because those almost 399 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 3: felt like their own individual, you know, conservative time of 400 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 3: possession game plans. But I do think that that that 401 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 3: Boneck Sean Payton were able to hit on a lot 402 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 3: of the those those looks more consistently. I think Troy 403 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 3: Franklin improved a ton over the course of the year 404 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 3: in that regard. I think they got smarter about when 405 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,959 Speaker 3: to find Courtland Sutton sort of you know, matched up 406 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 3: one on one, when to just look directly at him, 407 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 3: and so I think that's I mean, that's going to 408 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 3: be a huge aspects going into this game, just with Frankly, 409 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 3: the Bill's safety room dinged up pretty bad and you know, 410 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 3: how do you beat shell coverage? So yeah, I think 411 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 3: that'll be big. 412 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 2: Luca, you got a tough. 413 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 4: Job beat you know, beat writer, beat reporter for the 414 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 4: Denver Broncos. Does it my question for you before I 415 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 4: let you go? This is my last question. So when 416 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 4: a coach, future Hall of Fame coach like that Bristol's 417 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 4: had a question, are you able to just brush that off. 418 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 2: Like no big deal? 419 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 4: Or does that actually bother you a little bit? Does 420 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 4: that stay with you a little bit? 421 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 3: I think for the most part you're able to brush 422 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 3: it off pretty easily because I think you you know, 423 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 3: to me, it's it's and maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm 424 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 3: I'm off base here, but to me, it's an understanding 425 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 3: of who Sean Payton is. Like players all the time 426 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 3: talk about how he will respect you in a sense 427 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 3: if you're able to go back and forth with him 428 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 3: a little bit and able to have thick skin and 429 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 3: all those concepts, and I think it's really the same 430 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 3: in a lot of ways if you're going about covering 431 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 3: him and figuring out how to do that. So I 432 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 3: just you know, uh, I understand you know this this 433 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 3: the uh the thing Tuesday or whatever it was, I 434 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 3: really thought was just him poking fun and he said 435 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 3: as much today, And you know, I just I think 436 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 3: that's that's how it goes sometimes as a reporter, and 437 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 3: you got to you gotta take whatever licks come your 438 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 3: way and just you know, head out there the next time. 439 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 3: And so yeah, don't I definitely don't take it personally. 440 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 3: Just it's just it's just the game. 441 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you do a great job with it. Luca Evans 442 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 1: joining us last one for me as well here. So yeah, 443 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: I mean you're around the team all the time. You 444 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: obviously travel, you're in the locker room every single day, 445 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 1: you do the uh the press, press conferences. What's what's 446 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: the vibe for you? How do you How confident do 447 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: you think this team is going to this game versus 448 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: what they were last year? And and I guess how 449 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: confident are you that the Broncos are going to be 450 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: able to go toe to toe with the Bills coming 451 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: up on Saturday. 452 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 3: I think they understand the stake certainly, I think that's 453 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 3: I don't think, you know, the concept of a bye 454 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 3: is maybe there's a little bit of rest. I don't 455 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 3: think we see that, uh at all, you know, heading 456 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 3: into this one. I think I just I can't imagine 457 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 3: that as Sean Payton coach, team would would would come 458 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 3: out slow or one with kind of the characters and 459 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 3: the personality that this defense has. And so I do 460 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 3: think that overall there is I wouldn't say I wouldn't 461 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 3: say there's this massive sort of underdog mentality or you know, 462 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 3: I know people have made a big deal about whatever 463 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 3: the betting line is. I wouldn't say either that there's 464 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 3: this whole revenge team. But you know, I was talking 465 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 3: to tell Aoufunga, you know, and and a couple of 466 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 3: days ago and him saying, just he's a chip on 467 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 3: his shoulder for the kind of the guys last year 468 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 3: and the loss. And so I think there is a 469 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 3: little bit of that. And I think the veterans the 470 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 3: guys have experienced, you know, the Hafunga, the Green Laws 471 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 3: who have been in this situation before, well we'll get 472 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 3: them up. I don't think there's there's any worry with that. 473 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 3: And I know the. 474 00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 2: Man. 475 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 3: It's gonna be it's gonna be really, uh something to 476 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 3: see what the city of Denver just brings on on Saturday. 477 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 3: Because I know that Sean Payton has coached up the 478 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 3: fans plenty of times this year, so it'll be something. 479 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: No doubt. Hey man, keep crushing it. We we love 480 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: the way you cover this team. Always ask fantastic questions. 481 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean I thought the way that sort 482 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: of exploded to your point that interaction with Sean, people 483 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: didn't really understand the dynamic of how he is with 484 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: you and Chris Thomasin and mar Kisla and there's I 485 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: mean again, I think on its surface, people will read 486 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: into that and say, well, Sean's just being mean. But 487 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: there's a little bit of a back and forth. You 488 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: had what was the thing earlier where you did the 489 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: Evan Evan Evan thing. 490 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 3: Yeah that was you know, that was well in that regard, 491 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 3: it's like you gotta you gotta, you gotta poke back 492 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 3: a little bit. Yeah, you know, I'm not just gonna 493 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 3: I'm not just gonna sit there and and uh and uh, 494 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 3: you know, have the have someone call me the you know, 495 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 3: my last name or whatnot, and and there's it's not 496 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 3: and it's not it's not a you know, I don't 497 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 3: think it. 498 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 2: I don't. 499 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 3: I certainly don't think Sean Payte is spending much time 500 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 3: thinking about me or the interactions with me or this 501 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 3: or that. But it's just, you know, in those settings, 502 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 3: it's a I think, you know, you got to have 503 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 3: a mutual respect and things don't really stick so uh, 504 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 3: you know, And it's not like, uh, there's been anything 505 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 3: just absolutely massive. It's just, you know, it's a little 506 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 3: there's a little back and forth always and I think 507 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 3: that's that's how it always. 508 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 2: Is, no doubt. 509 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 1: Well, keep up the good work man. We really appreciate 510 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: you giving us a few minutes here. 511 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, anytime. Thank you guys. 512 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 1: All right, Luca Evans, not Evan. 513 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 2: What do you know about attacking downhill in the run game? 514 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 4: You know what, Luka, to his credit, has has hung 515 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 4: in there. Yes, and I will I will say I 516 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 4: don't think that's the easiest thing to do. 517 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 2: When even if now. 518 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 5: The coach said it was all in jest, When a 519 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 5: coach sort of fires on you in an NFL press 520 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 5: conference setting after you've asked him a question that quite 521 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 5: obviously he didn't particularly care for it. 522 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 4: Takes a little something to hang in there, so you know, 523 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 4: I'm good on him. I was going to say, I 524 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 4: think it's a brand builder for him. I think this 525 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 4: raises up his profile. You know, more people talking about 526 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 4: him now than if Sean Payton wouldn't have pushed back 527 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 4: on him at all. I think this is actually good 528 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 4: for his brand. Although it's a hard job, very difficult job, 529 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 4: but him being a young reporter, I think this is. 530 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 2: Good for him. 531 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: And it's interesting with Beat guys. You know, the concept 532 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: of brand. I mean, maybe that's a bigger deal now. 533 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 1: I guess when over I think about Beat writers like 534 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: they're just like I cover the team, I ask questions, 535 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: I write my articles. That's the brand. The brand is 536 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 1: whatever is going on with the team, I'm covering it. 537 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,479 Speaker 1: So maybe maybe we do a live in an arrow 538 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: where you have to be brand conscious. 539 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I think most people are trying to 540 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 4: acquire listeners or attention or clicks or what happens social 541 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 4: media right, social media, So. 542 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 2: I agree with Rick. 543 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 4: I think for people that might not even have had 544 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 4: known who Luca was after dust Up one and now 545 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 4: this one, I think they you know, if you're a 546 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 4: Broncos fan, you might want to say what I'm going 547 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 4: to find out a little bit about this Luca Evans guy. 548 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 2: Absolutely true. 549 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: He asked really good questions, and I liked the question 550 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: there about would you rather see them run the ball 551 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: effectively or stop the run? And he went immediately to 552 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 1: stop the run. I thought, I probably agree with that, Dave. 553 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 1: I mean, if you like, could only pick one in 554 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 1: this game, one thing to have, the Broncos are very 555 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: efficient in stopping the run, or they're very efficient running 556 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: the ball. Which what would you take? 557 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 5: You mean, the Broncos defense to stop the Bills running 558 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 5: a game or the Broncos offense to run the ball effectively. 559 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 2: Correct In all honesty, I would go the other way. Okay, 560 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 2: that's what I mean. Jacksonville did. 561 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 4: Jacksonville ran the ball well stopped they got away from 562 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 4: it too, right, So I think I think what Buffalo 563 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 4: proved against Jacksonville is that. 564 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,479 Speaker 5: And I'm a big stop the run guy. Right, That's 565 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 5: that's defense one on one. I don't care what level 566 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 5: of football, even in the in the age of spread offense, 567 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 5: you you better find a way to get a hold 568 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 5: of the run and then when you get a hold 569 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 5: of the run, then you can make the necessary adjustments 570 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 5: in the passing game. But I I think this, if 571 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 5: the Broncos can not run the ball efficiently, I think 572 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 5: it's I think it's uphill sledden if if the Broncos 573 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 5: can't stop If they can run the ball, but the 574 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 5: Broncos defense has a hard time stopping the Bills offense. 575 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 5: Closer game, a game you don't have any control over. 576 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 5: But I still think you can hang in there. But 577 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 5: if the Broncos can't run the ball efficiently and it 578 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 5: turns into a bon Nix like the Jacksonville game, did. 579 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 4: You know forty whatever? Forty five plus throws? I don't 580 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 4: like that game plan. What is more likely you think 581 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 4: from this football team running the ball effectively or stopping 582 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 4: their run? 583 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 3: Oh? 584 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 4: I think stopping their run? Yeah, I mean you can 585 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 4: stop Listen, you can stop the run. 586 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 2: You just have to. 587 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 5: I mean, you've got to gauge as to how aggressive 588 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 5: you want to be. You know, a lot of stopping 589 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 5: the run is mindset of the box and safety play. 590 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 4: If you want to bring guys down. Now, the risk 591 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 4: you run on that is once. 592 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 5: They see that, that's sort of your mo and then 593 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 5: they come back and they want to have a check 594 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 5: with me sort of series, and you get one of 595 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 5: those safeties, are both of them down, Well, then you 596 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 5: got to be able to hold up outside. That to me, 597 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 5: I think is a Broncos strength. Honestly, You've got two 598 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 5: good corner, you have one great corner. And I'm still 599 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 5: a Riley Moss fan, even though I know Broncos fans 600 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 5: have been frustrated and he has had some pass interference call. 601 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 5: I just think, I mean, I've studied that position my 602 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 5: whole life. 603 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 4: I think Riley Moss is a very good player that 604 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 4: is going to get better as he becomes even more seasoned. 605 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 4: So you got guys that can cover on the outside. 606 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 4: So I would not be surprised if vance early in 607 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 4: this game is where as the Bills are breaking the 608 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 4: huddle and we're looking over in the Broncos defense and 609 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 4: you look and see, okay, these safeties are you know, 610 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 4: Ufunga is down in the box and they're going to 611 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 4: play one free or at times even zero. And so 612 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 4: that's when Denver saying you are not running the ball 613 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 4: on this down. 614 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: One of the things I was telling Rick earlier in 615 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: the show is It kind of went down the rabbit 616 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: hole on Bill's podcast this week and Bill's Twitter and 617 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: just kind of getting a sense of how they view 618 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: the matchups of the Broncos, and the one thing they 619 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: kept bringing up is the size of their offensive line 620 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: versus the Broncos defensive line, because they're the lightest guy 621 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: for the offensive line of the Bills of three hundred 622 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: eight pounds. They're the massive human beats all of them, 623 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: three hundred plus some close to three forty. I mean, 624 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: they got some really big dudes. The Broncos. 625 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 2: Both tackles are very very good place, yes. 626 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: And they're very good players, right, no doubt about that. 627 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: But then I mean, you don't become one of the best, 628 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: if not the best rushing attack in the NFL for 629 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: that reason unless you are that good. But the Broncos, meanwhile, 630 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: I say light in the pants comparatively, right, But DJ 631 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: Jones is your heaviest guy three. 632 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 2: Lives called light in the pockets. Okay, lightening pockets again 633 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 2: in the pants. 634 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: It feels it feels like a rick is. 635 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's something I like to come it. 636 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,959 Speaker 1: But they but they feel as though that's their matchup, 637 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: like like they'll be able to wear down the defensive 638 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: line because their offensive line so big. 639 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 2: Well, that's where again. 640 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 4: I mean, big, strong offensive lines do tend to wear 641 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 4: on a defense. If if you're you know, you're getting 642 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 4: ten play drives, then it stands to reason is the 643 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 4: game goes on, I mean, you're going to start to 644 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 4: wear on those guys. 645 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 2: That's where the Broncos offense. 646 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 5: Again, I think the I mean there's pressure on the 647 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 5: entire team to play well and to find a way 648 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 5: to win. I think there's there's separate pressure on the 649 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 5: Broncos offense. 650 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 4: Uh. And I've said this before. You know, we used 651 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 4: to call it who wears the hat? Well, to me, 652 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 4: the Broncos offense wears the hat. Man you have you 653 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 4: got to stay on the field. It can't be a 654 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 4: game that you look up in the first half and 655 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 4: you've had of your possessions, you've had four three or 656 00:32:58,480 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 4: four three and outs. 657 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 2: We can't do that. 658 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 4: One you're not moving the ball and you're not giving 659 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 4: yourself a chance really to generate points as much. 660 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 5: And two you're putting your defense back out on the field. 661 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 5: And then it gets back in just what we were 662 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 5: talking about, A big, strong, offensive line dedicated to running it, 663 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 5: world class running back and a quarterback that is good 664 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 5: enough even though he's banged up, and athletic enough and 665 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 5: huge to be a factor in the running game too. 666 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 5: So the Broncos offense, and I was glad to hear 667 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 5: Sean address that today. I was out at the Broncos 668 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 5: facility and listening to his post practice press conference, and 669 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 5: they talked about the need of the Broncos offense to 670 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 5: string together drives and to stay on the field, and 671 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 5: how he was going to write on his call sheet 672 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 5: run the ball. So I think it's a double buckle 673 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 5: chin strap game for both defensive teams.