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Speaker 2: Good evening everybody, and welcome on in. Thank you very much, Madison.

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Speaker 2: Always nice to hear your voice. As we begin a

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Speaker 2: Thursday night edition of Nightside. Before we get to tonight,

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Speaker 2: Their titles are somewhat different, but basically Bill Fitzsimmons, the

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Speaker 2: dean of Admission, longtime dean of mission at Harvard University

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Speaker 2: in Grank Goslin. Again, the titles are a little different,

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Speaker 2: I'm just reminding everyone that Monday night at eight o'clock,

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Speaker 2: particularly those who in the family perhaps are applying to

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Speaker 2: which is Thursday night, and we have four really interesting guests.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk with Emily Sweeney, Boston Globe Cold

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Speaker 2: will explain the connections that Lieutenant al Lucier has to

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Speaker 2: Boston Latin School. Now, first up, and we have some

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Speaker 2: He's the general manager of the Centerfolds Club in Boston.

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Speaker 2: welcome back to Night's side. Tell us about the disappearance

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Dan, thank you so much for having me. This

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Speaker 2: That's a good twenty miles. If I remember driving from

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean it's it's a really weird case,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So you know, Mawantia has a you know, statewide

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Speaker 2: Would you work these cases emily? And again, if I'm

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Speaker 2: Or did they just simply tell you what they want

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Speaker 2: Well, you do great jobs at all of these and

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Speaker 2: if there's anyone that has any recollection of this, they

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Speaker 2: Unsolved Crimes Unit in New Hampshire. The easiest, the easiest

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Speaker 2: way would be for them to get in touch with you.

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Speaker 2: How could if someone does here or our interview, you know,

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Speaker 3: Well, my email address you can get me at the Globe.

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Speaker 3: It's Emily dot Sweeney at Globe dot com.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's pretty simple. That is strict to call forward

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Speaker 3: we're trying to get a lot of you know, attention

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Speaker 2: Globe dot com slash cold case Files. Well, Emily, we'll

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Speaker 2: Pleasure Kante. We so appreciate what you're doing. Thanks Emily.

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Speaker 2: All right, when we get back, we're going to talk

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Speaker 2: to an incredible individual, Frank Wiser. I hope I'm pronouncing

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Speaker 2: back on Nightside as we start a celebration on Veteran's Day.

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Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray, I'm WBZ Boston's News Radio.

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Speaker 2: Well, as we approach Veteran's Day next week, I'm honored

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Speaker 2: to introduce to my audience Frank Wiser. He has written

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Speaker 2: a book called Lead Solo learning Life's vectors from an

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Speaker 2: How are you this evening, sir.

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Speaker 5: I'm doing great and I appreciate you having me on.

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Speaker 2: So this book talks about leadership in life's lessons that

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Speaker 2: like everyone knows the Blue Angels, we stand in awe

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Speaker 5: You're right, No, they don't take a whole lot of

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Speaker 2: Of course, yeah, I have one of my dear friends

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Speaker 2: The are we come back when to talk about Stress

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Speaker 1: this Lindsay low hand Man, Lindsay Lowhand with all those

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Speaker 5: What do you what do you want? You know?

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Speaker 1: Why you what do you want?

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Speaker 1: Tell me what you want?

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Speaker 5: Well, I tell you what you want? You want nothing?

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Speaker 1: You want nothing? Soredity now, soredity now?

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Speaker 2: What is that not to get me a relaxation? Cassette

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Speaker 5: Say now and that, people, is what grinds my gears?

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Speaker 2: To Amy, we do a segment here on Nightside sometimes

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Speaker 2: a perfect segue, Amy Leedeker. This is Stress Awareness Week?

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Speaker 2: How can we live stress less? Live more? You're laughing.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, You're a good sport. You have written a

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Speaker 2: I have a good friend of mine who calls Monday

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Speaker 2: here we go again. I can't wait to read your book.

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Speaker 2: Tell me how it's going to make my life less stressful?

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Speaker 6: Thank you, and thank you for making my life less stressful.

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Speaker 6: With the introduction a sign folk clip is always a

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Speaker 6: of how they call it moan day, that's not uncommon.

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Speaker 6: So many people feel that way about Mondays. But the

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Speaker 6: problem is we're going to work two thousand, one hundred

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Speaker 6: and nine Mondays in our lifetime. That's a lot. So

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Speaker 6: if we don't figure out a new way, then we're

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Speaker 6: basically resigning ourselves to not enjoy twenty one hundred days

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Speaker 6: of our life. So this book has a different way.

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Speaker 6: It's a really simple method of how we can look

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Speaker 6: at our stress in a new way, sort it into categories,

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Speaker 6: and then actually solve it and do something about it.

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Speaker 2: So, what did you say two thousand and ninety Mondays?

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Speaker 6: It's two and nine and that comes from in our lifetime,

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Speaker 6: most of us are going to work an average of

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Speaker 6: about ninety thousand hours and that equates to a whole

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Speaker 6: lot of Mondays or a lot of Say I am.

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Speaker 2: So friends, Amy, I know you won't believe this. I'm

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Speaker 2: working on twenty five hundred Mondays. Okay, I've been I've

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Speaker 2: been doing. I was in television for thirty one years

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Speaker 2: as a CBS reporter here in Boston, and now I'm

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Speaker 2: in year nineteen as a talk show host. So I've

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Speaker 2: done my time. You gotta let me go. So so look,

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Speaker 2: I must tell you I think stress is a positive.

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Speaker 2: So now I want you to tell me why I'm

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Speaker 2: deadly wrong. Okay, because I know when I played sports,

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Speaker 2: you always have the butterflies before every game. If you're not,

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Speaker 2: if you don't every night, I do this show at

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Speaker 2: seven duty or so I'm thinking, what have I missed? What? What? What?

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Speaker 2: What have I what? What? Am I? What? What? Am

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Speaker 2: I not? Aware of? All of that? So I look

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Speaker 2: at that stress as positive. Tell me why I'm wrong.

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Speaker 6: You're not wrong at all. So the thing is there

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Speaker 6: are different kinds of stress. So the stress that you're

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Speaker 6: describing is you stress that's positive stress, and it's exactly

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Speaker 6: what you described. It's the butterflies before a presentation. It's

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Speaker 6: what gives us the energy to complete a RaSE. The

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Speaker 6: stress we're talking about this week, especially during National Stress Week,

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Speaker 6: is chronic stress. That's the long term stress that sticks around.

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Speaker 6: It wears you down, and it has the really serious

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Speaker 6: toll on your body and your mind and your health.

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Speaker 2: So I assume that the cause of stress could be

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Speaker 2: manifold that a lot of people could have. They could

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Speaker 2: have economic stress, they could have family stress, they could

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Speaker 2: have you know, work stress, they could have relationship stress.

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Speaker 2: I assume that stress covers a wide range of causes,

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Speaker 2: symptomatic causes. Correct.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, And even when we look at what stress is,

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Speaker 6: it's just our body's reaction when there's a change or

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Speaker 6: a challenge and everything that you just mentioned, finances and family,

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Speaker 6: those can all have changes and challenges. So the key

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Speaker 6: is that we don't try to solve all of those

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Speaker 6: stressors the same way, because we can't. The way you

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Speaker 6: solve a financial stress is going to be very different

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Speaker 6: than the way you solve a family stress. So it's

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Speaker 6: taking the time to really uncover where is your stress

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Speaker 6: coming from so that then you can identify the right solution.

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Speaker 2: How tough is it to figure out where you feel

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Speaker 2: stress or anxiety? I think those words are similar, if

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Speaker 2: not identical, stress anxiety or whatever different words you can

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Speaker 2: mean similar things. How tough is it to discover we

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Speaker 2: have most of your stress is coming from, and then

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Speaker 2: how do you apply Obviously, cheers to Monday. This book

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Speaker 2: is going to help It's going to help me because

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Speaker 2: I'm going to get it, and I hope most people

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Speaker 2: in my audience get it. And that is going to

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Speaker 2: take some stress away from you, by the way, which

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Speaker 2: is a good thing. But in all honesty, so someone says, okay,

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Speaker 2: it's financial stress. But there are some stresses you can't

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Speaker 2: do much about. I mean, you know, other than trying

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Speaker 2: to play the lottery and become a millionaire. But that's unrealistic.

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Speaker 2: Is it always going to a counselor? Or should you

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Speaker 2: talk about it with friends? Or should not talk about

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Speaker 2: it with friends? Give me a quick overview as to

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Speaker 2: once you figured out your stress, how do you what

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Speaker 2: will the book tell me about dealing with it?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so what you described was step once we've got

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Speaker 6: to see it. What are we really feeling is where

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Speaker 6: is the stress coming from? Then the second step is

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Speaker 6: we've got to sort it. So the book talks about

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Speaker 6: at work. There are five distinct kinds of work stress.

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Speaker 6: And so instead of just talking about stress in general terms, getting.

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Speaker 2: Could I could I name them by by by by name?

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Speaker 2: Could I'll give you the nick No, I can't do that. No,

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Speaker 2: go ahead. So you know you're talking about you're not

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Speaker 2: talking about individuals or people. No, I know, so one

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Speaker 2: of the five areas that and I'm getting a little

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Speaker 2: tight on time here, go right ahead.

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Speaker 6: Oh sure, just really quickly. So the first one is

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Speaker 6: when we have schedule stress, there's just not enough time

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Speaker 6: in the day. The second is when there is sudden stress,

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Speaker 6: something comes out of the blue and it requires you

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Speaker 6: to take an action. Then there's social stress, the stress

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Speaker 6: of people. There's system stress when the systems that you're

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Speaker 6: operating in are making it really difficult. And then there's

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Speaker 6: suspense something's happened but it hasn't happened yet and you're

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Speaker 6: feeling that anticipation, that anxiety.

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Speaker 2: I got all of those those, right. I need your book, Amy,

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Speaker 2: I need that book. Okay, how do we get the book?

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Speaker 2: That's the most important question. I assume it's Amazon in

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Speaker 2: places like that. How long has the book been out?

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Speaker 6: By the way, the book launches on March twenty fourth,

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Speaker 6: and right now the pre sale is available wherever books

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Speaker 6: are sold.

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Speaker 2: Wait a second, it hasn't even published yet and we're

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Speaker 2: talking about it.

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Speaker 6: That's good, exactly, I know this is stress week. We

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Speaker 6: got to be talking about it. You are leading the way.

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Speaker 6: Thank you for doing that.

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Speaker 2: So the book debuts in March of twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 2: but it's available now on Amazon. Do you have a

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Speaker 2: website where a lot of the authors have websites and

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Speaker 2: people can get the book directly from the author. Sometimes

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Speaker 2: the author will autograph the book to them, or maybe

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Speaker 2: you present them book to your best friend and you

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Speaker 2: get Amy will inscribe it to your best friend, right.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Amy Leonarker dot com.

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Speaker 2: Leonaker is elie n e k e r Amy Cheers

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Speaker 2: to Monday. The surprisingly shable Method to Lead and Live

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Speaker 2: with Less stress and more joy sounds to me like

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Speaker 2: something we all should read. Thanks Amy, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 6: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I'll bring you back some night if possible. We'll

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Speaker 2: do an hour and we'll take phone calls from listeners.

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Speaker 6: Yes, count me in, sign me up. All right, I'm

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Speaker 6: all there.

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Speaker 2: Right, you volunteered. We're gonna get you. Don't worry. Thanks

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Speaker 2: so much saying we'll talk. We do that a lot

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Speaker 2: more with folks who are on.

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Speaker 5: The on the eighth grade.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 6: I would love it.

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Speaker 2: Thanks all right, Amy Lenoncer Cheers to Monday when we

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Speaker 2: get back, we're going to talk about a Veteran's Day

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Speaker 2: tribute to a local hero. I think you're gonna love

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Speaker 2: this this next segment coming back on Night Shun.

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Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to get right to this next topic because

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Speaker 2: it's an extraordinary story with me is John Casey. John

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Speaker 2: Casey is class of nineteen seventy one at Boston Latin School.

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Speaker 2: He was a little bit ahead of me. He was

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Speaker 2: a quarterback on the football team the wolf Pack that

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Speaker 2: put together a championship season back in nineteen seventy one

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Speaker 2: under then coach Paul Costello. One of the players, one

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Speaker 2: of the key players on the team that protected quarterback

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Speaker 2: John Casey, who joins US tonight from North Carolina, was

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Speaker 2: a tackle named Al Lucier. Al Lucier Junior. John is

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Speaker 2: also ironically a listener of Nightside in North Carolina, and

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Speaker 2: it is pure coincidence. I was sitting across the table

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Speaker 2: at a party for some friends of our Jack and

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Speaker 2: Nancy Ferris a couple of years ago, and John and

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Speaker 2: I were talking and he kind of looked at me

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Speaker 2: and he said, are you the talk show guy that

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Speaker 2: I listened to, and I said, yeah, and we struck

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Speaker 2: up a friendship. It turns out that this story was

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Speaker 2: pointed out to me by another classmate, former Boston School

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Speaker 2: committee man Kevin McCluskey and John I did not know

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Speaker 2: this story. This is a remarkable story. Al Lucier, your

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Speaker 2: team mate in your classmate was a brilliant student. He

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Speaker 2: was a linguist, graduated of Boston Land School, had I guess,

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Speaker 2: an appointment at one of the academies, one of the

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Speaker 2: service academies.

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Speaker 4: That's correct. First of all, thanks thanks a lot for

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Speaker 4: having us Stanley. I really appreciate this opportunity. Yeah. Now

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Speaker 4: was an offensive tackle on our football team, and he

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Speaker 4: was simply he was at the brilliant guy. And you know,

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Speaker 4: the Boston Lane School to be very competitive academically, and

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Speaker 4: he rose to be one of the leading people in

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Speaker 4: our class in terms of academic performance. And he actually

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Speaker 4: received an appointment to the to West Point. So we

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Speaker 4: always had an interest in the military. He decided instead

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Speaker 4: of going to West Point, he was going to go

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Speaker 4: to Columbia. We went to Columbia University, played four years

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Speaker 4: of football down there, and again had a great academic record. Uh,

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Speaker 4: when he was at Latin school. Just to go back

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Speaker 4: a little bit, he actually received what's called the Classical

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Speaker 4: Prize at our school for outstanding performance in the classics

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Speaker 4: Greek and Latin. So he was clearly just a real,

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Speaker 4: real smart, gifted guy.

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Speaker 2: He graduates from Columbia. I just I just want to

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Speaker 2: make sure that I'm following the timeline here. He graduates

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Speaker 2: from Columbia, Uh, doesn't go into the business world, decides

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Speaker 2: to join the Marines. As an enlisted man. In the Marines,

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Speaker 2: they learned of his linguistic skills and he guess, I

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Speaker 2: guess is relocated to Monterey, California, where he learns Mandarin.

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Speaker 4: Uh, that's correct, mandin Chinese study. And at the time he,

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Speaker 4: as you mentioned, he was in a listed marine. They

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Speaker 4: noticed his uh you know, uh scholarship and how smart

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Speaker 4: he was and said you should become an officer, and

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Speaker 4: they he then enrolled into the officer candidate school. Uh

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Speaker 4: after seven a few years as as a lost marine.

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Speaker 2: So he becomes a lieutenant and he's assigned to Alaska.

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Speaker 2: And I wouldn't be a bit surprised if he's listening

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Speaker 2: to radios up in Alaska but he goes out on

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Speaker 2: a rescue mission. There's a civilian who is stranded on

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Speaker 2: the side of a mountain on a ledge, and with

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Speaker 2: some fellow Marines they attempt to save and they did save, uh,

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Speaker 2: the civilian, but in the process of the the the

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Speaker 2: effort to save the civilian, they had to lower a

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Speaker 2: marine down to UH to get hold of the civilian.

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Speaker 5: UH.

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Speaker 2: And they had tied off, you know, making it up

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Speaker 2: as they go along, tied off to a big boulder,

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Speaker 2: a rock, and Al was standing next to the boulder.

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Speaker 2: When the boulders started to slip, Al pushed a fellow

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Speaker 2: marine out of the way, probably saved that marine's life.

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Speaker 2: They were able to get the the hiker and the

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Speaker 2: other marine to safety, and then the boulder, which Al

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Speaker 2: was trying to hold back the earth game way. And

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Speaker 2: Al was killed, not in combat, but obviously in the

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Speaker 2: sacrifice to save colleagues. And for that he was presented

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Speaker 2: the Navy and Marine Corps Medal posthumously to Lieutenant Alfred

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Speaker 2: First Lieutenant Alfred O. Lucier Junior. An incredible story and

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Speaker 2: I know that your class of seventy one was very close.

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Speaker 2: They've dedicated a plaque at Latin School, as I understand

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Speaker 2: it is that.

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Speaker 4: Correct, that's correct. It's right in the what's called the

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Speaker 4: Roads Gym, a brand new gym down at the Latin School.

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Speaker 4: And he's also was inducted to the Athletic Hall of

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Speaker 4: Fame recently. But because of this heroic activities, there was

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Speaker 4: also a special plaque made in his honor, and it's

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Speaker 4: right at the entrance to the World Jim, so people

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Speaker 4: can see. You know, what a heroic life. He led

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Speaker 4: a short life, thirty years old when he passed, but

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Speaker 4: he was really our hero for a lot of people

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Speaker 2: But he gave his life to save the life of

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Speaker 2: another marine and also on an effort to save a

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Speaker 2: civilian who was in a very difficult set of circumstances.

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Speaker 2: You know, I know John, I know a few of

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Speaker 2: you from the class of seventy one, including our mutual

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Speaker 2: story of al Lucier will live with all of you

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Speaker 2: for many years to come, I hope, and he will

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Speaker 2: remain memorialized at Boston Land School. And I could not

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Speaker 2: think of a better story to tell to Minnside audience

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Speaker 2: in advance of veteran state than this one final thought and.

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Speaker 4: Also Dan, well, we do have a scholarship is so

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Speaker 4: if anybody would be inclined to participate in helping to

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Speaker 4: to a graduating senior at Latin School, they can make

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Speaker 4: a contribution at www dot b l S for Boston

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Speaker 4: Latin School b l S dot org backslash Lucier which

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Speaker 4: we are in the process of building funds for that

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Speaker 4: and any contributions would be most welcome. And again it's

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Speaker 4: for very special cars than just truly a person who

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Speaker 4: to save others, and it was.

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Speaker 2: It's sacrifice his own life to save others. B LS

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Speaker 2: please keep listening to Nightside and thank you for keeping

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Speaker 2: the memory of Lieutenant Al Lucier, a proud and distinguished

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Speaker 2: graduate of Boston Land School class of nineteen seventy one

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Speaker 2: and say ahea to my friend Jack Ferris and also

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Speaker 2: to Kevin McCluskey. You guys a thank you keeping alive.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, really appreciate it. And yes, thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: John. Good to know you down there. Stay well, my friends,

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Speaker 2: stay stayhead to all our friends in North Carolina. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that takes care of I think a kind of a

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Speaker 2: spectacular eight o'clock hour, we're going to talk with Paul

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Speaker 2: Baskin about Boston bike lanes. They're not going anywhere. I'm

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Speaker 2: still not a big bike lane guy, but Paul and

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Speaker 2: I have had a couple of well had one conversation.

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Speaker 2: We're going to incorporate you into the conversation during the

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Speaker 2: next hour, right after the nine o'clock news