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Speaker 2: All right, we are back five o'clock hour. We'll get

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Speaker 2: to back to plenty of Viking stuff a little later.

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Speaker 2: I did, by the way, uh briefly talk as Brett

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Speaker 2: Blakemore knows about the Golden Gopher's latest visit to Columbus, Ohio.

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Speaker 2: I'm wondering if our next guest had a chance to

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Speaker 2: see any of that. Mike Conley, man, that was that

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Speaker 2: was That's a hell of a defense that club had.

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Speaker 3: Your club has.

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Speaker 4: Sure, Yeah, we're gonna be all right again, hopefully, uh

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Speaker 4: hopefully we can repeat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're in good shape.

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Speaker 2: I think I don't think you've given up double digit

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Speaker 2: a nice club.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: Good to have you back, Thank you, And I know

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Speaker 2: you've kind of covered a lot of this elsewhere, But

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Speaker 2: to set this up, I think we should talk about

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Speaker 2: it a little bit. It sounds like the contrast for

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Speaker 2: is huge and pretty dramatic in terms of your ability

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Speaker 2: us a little, you know, insight into that contrast.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, last summer I spent most of that time

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Speaker 5: But to have a summer.

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Speaker 5: As you get closer to.

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Speaker 4: The season, and I think that that's going to bowl

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Speaker 2: Were you ever in the off season at any point

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Speaker 3: Did you ever come close to that? H?

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Speaker 4: I think that's why I'm still here is I still

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Speaker 3: There, it still burns in you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, competitive part and that you enjoy that that has

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Speaker 4: That's I was talking earlier today, I think to one

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Speaker 3: Heart. You've talked about this with us before.

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Speaker 2: As you get older, obviously you have to work harder

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Speaker 2: Everybody has a theory on what this team, your team

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Speaker 2: What priorities do you think should take hold for this

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Speaker 4: the situation we're in is where we're in, and and

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Speaker 5: From Aunt Jaden and nas. You can go down the line.

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Speaker 4: Can we continue to get better individually and continue to

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Speaker 2: A lot of discussion on the offensive side is we

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's a it's a former structure that I'm

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Speaker 3: Are you comfortable with that yourself?

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Speaker 4: I think that there's in the years past, maybe I

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Speaker 4: And you can tell they've been doing it the entire season,

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Speaker 4: That's that's the mark of like, you know, teams that

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Speaker 4: Like I said, if you throw the ball ahead three

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Speaker 2: The other thing that and I don't know if if

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Speaker 2: I'm not that guy. So if I'm going to be

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't know how well you've gotten to

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Speaker 2: What do you know about about Julius that maybe you

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Speaker 4: I think the first thing, he's not as mean obviously

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Speaker 3: Where does you know?

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Speaker 4: energy is contagious and then's something that he's he's been

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Speaker 4: really good at for us, like his ability to crash

441
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Speaker 4: and get offensive rebounds, extra possessions. He's one of our

442
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Speaker 4: better guys on defense, like going up and contesting shots

443
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Speaker 4: and blocking people and just creating opportunities for us. And

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Speaker 4: that energy, uh is something that we're gonna you know,

445
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Speaker 4: lean on. You know, we need that from him. Uh.

446
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Speaker 5: He knows that he's his role.

447
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Speaker 4: You know, he's gonna get bigger and bigger obviously Nick

448
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Speaker 4: Hill being out, you know, Ron, and you know we're

449
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Speaker 4: gonna rely on him and TJ and guys like that

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Speaker 4: to to fill you know a lot of that and

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Speaker 4: and and he's I'll be ready to go.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's get one quick break.

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Speaker 2: And I want to try to hold you over if

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Speaker 3: Can we do that? Yeah, you're good on time?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm good.

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Speaker 2: Well, that sounds like there may not be agreement. I'll

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Speaker 2: Three body got its corner pocket from Mike Conley.

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Speaker 3: One ninety four clutch from Mike.

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Speaker 2: A couple more minutes with Mike Conley kind of have

477
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Speaker 2: to join us in studio this evening. There's been a

478
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Speaker 2: lot of talk obviously about ever since the team you know,

479
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:26,399
Speaker 2: uh found a way to draft Rob to to you know,

480
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Speaker 2: project in terms of how quickly he could become a

481
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Speaker 2: part of this rotation. From your standpoint, how vital for

482
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Speaker 2: this year's team is it for him to take a

483
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Speaker 2: big jump?

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Speaker 5: What do you think?

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Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, there you yeah, I think that you know,

486
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Speaker 4: he's done everything we've asked of him, uh, the coaching staff,

487
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Speaker 4: He's come in, put the work in. He's a guy

488
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Speaker 4: that you know, wants to be perfect. He wants he

489
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Speaker 4: wants to perform and be himself. And we're all in

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Speaker 4: this corner to try to you know, fast track this

491
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Speaker 4: as fast as we can because we know his capabilities

492
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Speaker 4: and what he can bring to you know, our team

493
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Speaker 4: that that you know, we lack that kind of a

494
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Speaker 4: playmaker and the way that he can he can move

495
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Speaker 4: and how quick he is fast. He's got a lot

496
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Speaker 4: of juice and and can do a lot of things.

497
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Speaker 4: And he's just learning the NBA game. He's learning the

498
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Speaker 4: nuances of it. He's learning a lot defensively. I think

499
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Speaker 4: that's where he's trying to make the biggest growth because

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Speaker 4: you know, Jeah, Finchy and everybody's really big on defense

501
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Speaker 4: here and that's an easy way to get on the court.

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Speaker 4: And I think that he's doing a great job of

503
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Speaker 4: just you know, soaking it all in and listening to

504
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Speaker 4: everybody's advice and you know, hopefully, you know, this is

505
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Speaker 4: the year where he makes that jump and able to

506
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Speaker 4: really really help the team.

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Speaker 3: Does he But does he have your head?

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Speaker 2: You know, your mental I mean some of that is

509
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Speaker 2: you could say you've got more experience, but I think

510
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Speaker 2: you kind of always have had that to a certain extent.

511
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Speaker 2: Does he have that, because I think he's going to

512
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Speaker 2: have to learn it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we're just we're different, you know, in

514
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Speaker 4: a sense, like you said, when I was younger, I've

515
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Speaker 4: always kind of been this type of player, you know,

516
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Speaker 4: high you know, IQ, just always thinking the game. He

517
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Speaker 4: is by far one of the most talentsed like hoopers

518
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Speaker 4: you'll ever see, you know what I mean. And I

519
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Speaker 4: think it's came easy a lot, you know, and in

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Speaker 4: this game, as you grow and get get to you know,

521
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Speaker 4: reach different levels, you know, guys get better and better,

522
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Speaker 4: and and now he's having to think a lot more.

523
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Speaker 4: He's having to think how to get the ball or

524
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Speaker 4: how to you know, run these certain plays and and

525
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Speaker 4: kind of grasp the.

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Speaker 5: Whole playbook and stuff like that.

527
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Speaker 4: So it's just kind of new, newer to him, and

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Speaker 4: I think it's just taken some time. And like I said,

529
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Speaker 4: he's done a great job of locking in on that

530
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Speaker 4: and been really impressed with the way he's been able

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Speaker 4: to handle it through this offseason.

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Speaker 2: The funky catch twenty two is he needs to play,

533
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Speaker 2: but the way Finchy is you got to play well

534
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Speaker 2: before you're gonna get to play right.

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Speaker 3: So that, to me, that's going to be the trick.

536
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Speaker 2: You got some young players on this team who now

537
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Speaker 2: almost have to be a bigger part of it. But

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Speaker 2: it's a question of whether they're going to be get

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Speaker 2: the time. What do you think?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and we got a lot of guys that I

541
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Speaker 4: look back and I'm like, I expect him to play.

542
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Speaker 5: I expect him to play.

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Speaker 4: And you look at TJ, look at Jalen, you look

544
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Speaker 4: at Rob, you look at you know, Joan and all

545
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Speaker 4: of our rookies, Like, we got a lot of talents

546
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 4: at young depth there and uh and all at some

547
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 4: point will make big strides for us and do big

548
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Speaker 4: things for our team. So it's just you know, you'll

549
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 4: know when it would be obviously this coach's decision, but

550
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Speaker 4: we got to get these guys to to you know,

551
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Speaker 4: conform to what we do and and be ready to

552
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Speaker 4: go as quickly as possible.

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Speaker 2: Compare your relationship with Finchy with other coaches that you've

554
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Speaker 2: played for. Now that you've been around here a while,

555
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Speaker 2: I'm kind of curious to know what the relationship is like,

556
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Speaker 2: how much dialogue there is how much back and forth

557
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Speaker 2: there is, et cetera.

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Speaker 4: No, we're tight, you know, we're tight. We we talk

559
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Speaker 4: a lot about the game. We talk a lot about

560
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Speaker 4: our team. He bounces a lot of ideas off of me,

561
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 4: different different things he's thinking about implementing and practices or

562
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Speaker 4: or games or different plays I've run in the past. Like,

563
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Speaker 4: he's not over, you know, learning different things and trying

564
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Speaker 4: different different opportunities for different guys. So I think it's

565
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Speaker 4: really cool to have that kind of relationship with a coach.

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Speaker 4: I think most guys, you know, you see him yelling

567
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Speaker 4: on the sideline, and he can be a little aggressive

568
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Speaker 4: and assertive, but I tell him and remind him, and

569
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Speaker 4: you know, you got a good coach here. Don't don't uh, don't,

570
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Speaker 4: don't think about this too much and look too hard

571
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Speaker 4: into this.

572
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Speaker 5: But he's a really good one, you.

573
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Speaker 3: Know, Rudy really well.

574
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Speaker 2: Uh. There have been a lot that's already gone viral.

575
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Speaker 2: A couple of his offensive moves in the preseason game

576
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Speaker 2: the other day. I think it was the one in

577
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Speaker 2: San Diego, And so now people are all projecting, Oh,

578
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Speaker 2: is that is that a new Rudy We're going to see? Offensively?

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Speaker 2: Is it realistic to think that what we saw some

580
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Speaker 2: of those moves, including that left handed hook, that we're

581
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Speaker 2: gonna be able to see in games.

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Speaker 3: Is there another side of Rudy that's about to be revealed?

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Speaker 5: I sure hope so.

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Speaker 4: Because you know, we loved every bit of what he

585
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Speaker 4: did in the preseason game and all the things that

586
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Speaker 4: he shown, and he honestly works on that stuff all

587
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Speaker 4: the time, so it's a matter if.

588
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Speaker 5: He chooses to do it or not in the game.

589
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Speaker 4: So he's maybe he's showing us a little sneak preview

590
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Speaker 4: of what he's got got in store for this season.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you coming in.

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Speaker 5: I really do. Thanks.

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Speaker 2: We're looking forward to the visits throughout the season again

594
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Speaker 2: again this year, and best of luck this year. Glad

595
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Speaker 2: you're healthy, and most importantly, I'm glad you got a

596
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Speaker 2: hole in one. Maybe that's the maybe that's the little

597
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Speaker 2: offseason message that tells you something big is coming.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it definitely is.

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Speaker 4: I say I got a hold on one after every interview,

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Speaker 4: so that's just everybody knows.

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Speaker 2: That's even better. Thanks man, appreciate you. Thank you Mike

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Speaker 2: Conley kind enough to come in to say hello, We'll

603
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Speaker 2: get caught up, and we've got a lot of Viking stuff,

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Speaker 2: including several Vikings talking points. We can get to the

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Speaker 2: rest of the way. We are going the distance until

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Speaker 2: Adam and White bear Lake, Dan, I missed almost all

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Speaker 2: of the Conley interview Mike Conley. Will that soon be

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Speaker 2: available on the on the Timberwolves channel on Heart Radio.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it'll be on the Timberwolves channel immediately,

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Speaker 2: but I'm sure it'll be on the podcast that you'll

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Speaker 2: wrap up after this show is complete, correct.

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Speaker 1: You know, because I'm in the giving mood. Yeah, I'll

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Speaker 1: post it on the Yeah, I appreciate I'll go, I'll go.

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Speaker 2: Out of my way. I appreciate it because yes, that's

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Speaker 3: So Adam, there you go.

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Speaker 2: It'll be on the Timberwolves channel. I think we have

624
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Speaker 2: a preseason game tomorrow night, don't we? Yeah? Raight Sewan

625
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Speaker 2: Brian Kafan text line is open reaction to our discussion

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Speaker 2: with the Wolves point guard. Well, I think is making

627
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Speaker 2: it clear he's not going to go uh softly into

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Speaker 2: the night. Whatever that's saying is. I think he wants

629
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Speaker 2: to be a big part of what this team does

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Speaker 2: this season, and it's that I guess progression. How that

631
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Speaker 2: goes probably is going to have to play a major

632
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Speaker 2: part in how this season goes for this club as well.

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Speaker 2: Looking forward to visiting with him intermittently throughout the season

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Speaker 2: as we have in the past. Vikings, I want to

635
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Speaker 2: get a lot more Vikings input here in the final

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Speaker 2: what forty five minutes of today's broadcast or so, right

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Speaker 2: in that range. We have some more Vikings talking points

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Speaker 2: to get to as well.

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Speaker 3: I'm guessing.

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00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 2: If your polydana ish about the Purple, you come out

641
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 2: of the five game stretch before the bye going okay,

642
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Speaker 2: the record isn't great.

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Speaker 3: We didn't look dominant, but we.

644
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Speaker 2: Got a lot of injuries, two key linebackers out defensively,

645
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: Harrison Smith's kind of working his way back into the

646
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Speaker 2: rotation an offensive line that is basically all backups right now,

647
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Speaker 2: or at least was on the last drive, the game

648
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 2: winning drive. So you know, when we get the band

649
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Speaker 2: back together, we might actually be okay. If you're Danny Downer,

650
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Speaker 2: you go, man. You should be four and one at worst,

651
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Speaker 2: maybe five and zero. Give yourself a chance to withstand

652
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 2: the challenging middle of this schedule. Even if some of

653
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 2: those games look a bit more inviting, look a little

654
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: more inviting than they did a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: those are all legitimate teams you're playing now.

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Speaker 3: Largely.

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Speaker 2: The only gimme in there would be the Bears, and

658
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Speaker 2: I'm not even sure you can call the Bears a

659
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 2: gimme at this point. And that you've got, you got,

660
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 2: at the very least an open question a quarterback, correct.

661
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 3: I mean there's.

662
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 2: The Wentz fans, the carsonobos who say, if it don't,

663
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 2: if it ain't broke, don't you don't know, if it

664
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 2: ain't broke, don't fix it? Is that the saying we

665
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 2: won with him, keep him out there. And if you

666
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 2: buy the notion that the offensive line has been a

667
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 2: train wreck largely because of injuries, you can make the

668
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: argument that all the more reason to laud Wentz for

669
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: playing through all of that looking like he knows what

670
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 2: he's doing. Keeping significant blundering to a minimum a very

671
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 2: underrated part of being a quarterback.

672
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 3: And let's face it.

673
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 2: Is he a guy that you're going, Yeah, he could

674
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: lead us to the Promised Land. Probably not, but we

675
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: don't know if JJ McCarthy can either, At least at

676
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: this point. I think there's significant question about whether he's

677
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 2: quite ready for prime time with this team. So again

678
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: I said Friday, there was too much fear and loathing

679
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 2: about this game that you just got to go win

680
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: the game, which they ultimately did. They didn't do it

681
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 2: in very impressive fashion. On the other hand, that's the

682
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 2: kind of game Cleveland sort of makes you play to

683
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 2: a certain degree, one could say. And the most important

684
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 2: thing ultimately is that indeed the team got the victory.

685
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 2: That's what mattered more than anything. I just think coming

686
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 2: back from Europe two and three after this five game

687
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 2: stretch where you had it it was so inviting for

688
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: your club would have been semi disastrous.

689
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 3: For this team.

690
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 2: But I don't think that's you know, again, there's anything

691
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 2: that's happened to this point where you go, Hell yeah,

692
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: we're going to capitalize and build on what we did

693
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 2: last year at fourteen and three. I just don't think

694
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 2: I can with a straight face say that's how we

695
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 2: look right now. Fortunately, now you have the buy and

696
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 2: you have a chance to sort of regroup and then

697
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: maybe you get something going. You get healthier, you get

698
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: your linebackers back, you get Aaron Jones back. So you're not,

699
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 2: you know, just asking one running back to be the

700
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: guy start to finish. So we'll have to see six

701
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: four six eighty six is the bratch On Bryant kfan

702
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 2: text line. There was a clinical drive at the end

703
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 2: of the game against a good Cleveland defense. When in

704
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 2: the end the drive the Vikings had to have to

705
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 2: win the game.

706
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 3: They got. So we just.

707
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 2: Simply call this particular Vikings talking point the drive.

708
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 6: Carson Wentz settled the shotgun low snap from Brandelle handoff

709
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 6: Mason Room up the middle. He's between the hashmarks to

710
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 6: the twenty twenty five and is chopped down at about

711
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 6: the twenty nine yard line. Run of nine second and one,

712
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 6: and your Minnesota Vikings are in a hurry two minutes

713
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 6: to go in the game. Minnesota with one time out

714
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 6: remaining second and four from their own thirty seven is

715
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 6: Parson Wentz goes back to pass and he throws over

716
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 6: the middle, caught TJ. Hockinson. Eighty seven is coming up big.

717
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 6: Caught it at the fifty and he'll rally to a

718
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 6: forty eight yard line for a fourteen yard first down.

719
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 3: Game.

720
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 8: That's Carson Sweessenger, the rookie. You just losing his angle

721
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 8: because a disguise, and with enough time still left in

722
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 8: this game, you're able to hit a big play across

723
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 8: the middle of the field.

724
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 6: Wentz shotgun first down, throws right and no what by

725
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 6: Justin Jefferson at the twenty six on Denzel Ward, and

726
00:33:53,720 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 6: that reception was spectacularorson. Wentz goes under center, two receivers right,

727
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 6: two receiving options left. Jordan Mason, the tailback, takes the snap.

728
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 6: Wentz back to pass, throws another quickie to the left side,

729
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 6: caught by Jordan Addison, and he barely got enough for

730
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 6: the first down to about the sixteen yard line, but

731
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 6: he could not get out of bounds. It's a gain

732
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 6: of five. It is seventeen fourteen Cleveland, thirty eight thirty

733
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 6: seven thirty six thirty five. Wentz won second and five

734
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 6: from the Cleveland twelve. He works out of the shot again,

735
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 6: takes the snap, four man rush, throws to the right side,

736
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 6: cot touch don Jordan Addison.

737
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 3: He's the minute of the match, and.

738
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 6: He gives the Minnesota Vikings a twenty to seventeen lead.

739
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 8: This Cleveland defense will challenge you, Paul, even if it's

740
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 8: their detriment you. They're rolling up, they're jamming, they're one

741
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 8: on one on the outside. They're not giving their corner

742
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 8: as much help they're not. It's amazing. But for Jordan

743
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 8: Addison missing the first quarter of this football game and

744
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 8: to end it this way, what a response by that

745
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 8: young man. What a great throw by Carson Wentz in

746
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 8: the fourth quarter, A couple of great throw Wentz was.

747
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 2: I believe nine for nine on that last drive. And

748
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: I had got some texts from people earlier going, as

749
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 2: bad as I've seen Wentz, look the last couple of weeks,

750
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 2: you're going to possibly play them?

751
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 5: Are you nuts?

752
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 3: I don't know what people are watching.

753
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 2: I again am not here to suggest he's top five,

754
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 2: top ten quarterback right now, Wentz, but I do know this.

755
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 2: If JJ McCarthy a JJ McCarthy led Vikings offense had

756
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 2: fourteen points, meandered to a game and had fourteen points

757
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: heading into the last drive. They gave the drive in

758
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 2: which you either win or lose the game, and went

759
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 2: nine for nine, nine for nine, including a very nice

760
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 2: touchdown pass to take the lead and ultimately win the game.

761
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 2: They would be calling for him to get a lifetime

762
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: contract extension, So I know you're in a hurry. I

763
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 2: get it, you're in a hurry to see what the

764
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 2: kid has. But for the same reasons that you know

765
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: the JJ obos keeps saying to me, well, have you

766
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 2: seen the offensive line he's had to work with? Well, yeah,

767
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 2: if you want to play that game, what about the

768
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: offensive line Wentz has had to work with? And I

769
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 2: think he's overall, he's held in better. I think we're

770
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 2: out at sermons the day the story broke that they'd

771
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 2: signed him, and I was like, oh, humming it. If

772
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 2: you remember you were out there with me, Blake Moore,

773
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 2: and I was like, Okay, I guess I don't know

774
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: happy for you. I've watched too much Wentz the last

775
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 2: few years. I just don't I just don't have I

776
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: don't feel a buzz with him at all. I don't

777
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 2: know why you would do it, but I actually have

778
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 2: been impressed with his toughness, with his ability to hang

779
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 2: in and as I mentioned, the most underrated aspect of

780
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 2: what he's done is not throw stupid interceptions. He's had

781
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: a couple of picks. I think they last week. They

782
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 2: were both tipped balls, if not miss at least one

783
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 2: of them. And in this game, though, I think that's

784
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: an underrated strength that he has not forced all that much.

785
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 2: And I think he made a number of very nice

786
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 2: throws in this game. His biggest mistake was that second

787
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 2: scramble that resulting in his shoulder getting hurt. Kind of

788
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: an unnecessary play where he would have been better off

789
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 2: just getting rid of the ball. But I I thought

790
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 2: he was clinical against against a good obviously a good

791
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 2: Cleveland defense now in Cleveland's The defense to Cleveland's defense

792
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 2: is they got no chance because they know. I mean

793
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 2: there are I don't think look up the Browns for

794
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 2: this season, I don't think they've scored one. I don't

795
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 2: think they've had one game in the twenties yet. Offensively,

796
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: I think they've been it's all been single digits and

797
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 2: teams for them.

798
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: Let's see seventeen, seventeen, thirteen. Don't ask me about that one.

799
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: Ten and seventeen.

800
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you know, I mean, the biggest defense of

801
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 2: the Cleveland defense is they're not getting any help. And

802
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 2: ultimately they didn't get they got a good running game

803
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 2: until they didn't until I think the Vikings finally figured

804
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 2: out we're gonna dare the kid to throw, and they

805
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 2: got they got a little better handle on the running

806
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 2: game at that point, and at that point Cleveland was doomed.

807
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 2: Sooner or later, it was going to be a game

808
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 2: where I think the Vikings, if you keep getting opportunities

809
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 2: as an offense to score, sooner or later, you got

810
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 2: to plant your feet and say, we can't lose this.

811
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 2: As many opportunities as we've had here in the second

812
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 2: half of this game, we can't possibly lose it. We

813
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 2: got to go ahead and have it least one drive

814
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: where we go down the field, and ultimately that's that's

815
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: exactly what they've done. Dan, you are apparently president of

816
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 2: Carson's Condos for sure, not really. I just I'm trying

817
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 2: to be fair and I have a lot of I'm not.

818
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 3: Gonna lie to you.

819
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 2: I was traumatized by the JJ performance in his last game.

820
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 2: I'm not i as a guy who absolutely endorsed the

821
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 2: drafting of JJ. And by the way, that's still about

822
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 2: me saying he's Christian Ponder two point zero. That's a

823
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 2: constant theme we get on the text line. I don't

824
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 2: I'm not ready to say that at all. Quite frankly,

825
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 2: I think McCarthy's a lot more dynamic. But I am

826
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 2: worried that he might be a guy that needs to

827
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 2: sit for even longer. I am a little concerned about

828
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 2: that because it did look like it was way way

829
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 2: too big for him. He looked skittish, he looked like

830
00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 2: he didn't know he was what city he was in.

831
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 3: And I don't think can say that about Wentz.

832
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 2: It's very clear he's done this for a while and

833
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: he doesn't seem overwhelmed by it. Even if he's not

834
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 2: always making you'd say the perfect play. He made some

835
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 2: nice throws he got. Yes, did he get some help

836
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: from JJ, of course, But every let's go on a limit, say,

837
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 2: every good quarterback has been helped out by having a

838
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 2: good wide receiver that turns a fifty to fifty ball

839
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 2: into his ball as well.

840
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 3: Top of the hour.

841
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 2: Pause will come back with a couple more or talking

842
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 2: points and a lot of good texts are coming in.

843
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 2: Is your team ever going to play again? Are you

844
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 2: playing this week? It feels like forever. It doesn't feel

845
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 2: like they do. They get the Bengals at home, that's

846
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 2: a gimme. Well it should be a bot that week

847
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 2: three too, and here we are. Yeah, well that was

848
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 2: because of the flukey. Wasn't it a block kick?

849
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a block kick that changed every That

850
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: was pretty much it. Babies cry and that's normal. But

851
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: if you're feeling overwhelmed, it's okay to just step away.

852
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: Never shake a baby. Shaking can kill one and four

853
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 1: don't survive, and survivors often face permanent brain damage.

854
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 3: Learn more and give today at never Shake nm dot.

855
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: Com Viking's talking points. We're talking it or calling it,

856
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 2: I should say the punt of the century.

857
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 6: They are going to be punting with Ryan Wright from

858
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 6: the twenty yard line, snap right with a bomb for

859
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 6: a spiral holding cow with a punt by right.

860
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 8: Flag on the.

861
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 6: Play bounces at the eighteen fifteen, inside the ten to

862
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 6: the five and it rolls down to the two yard line.

863
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 6: So that's going to be a seventy eight yard punt,

864
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 6: a career long for Ryan pending in fraction it's against them.

865
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: During the kick holding receiving team in cowenty eight.

866
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 3: Half the distance to the goal first down.

867
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,720
Speaker 6: Seventy eight yard punt by Ryan.

868
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 8: It's exactly what you need at this time, Paul. And

869
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 8: now the defense is I gotta go out there and

870
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 8: stop whoah.

871
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 3: I was cut off very abruptly.

872
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: I think it was seventy seven officially, and then it

873
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 2: was then they it's half the distance as a goal afterwards,

874
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 2: so I think they started at the one.

875
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 3: That was a hell of a punt. That was a

876
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 3: big time, big time punt. For sure. You need a

877
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 3: lot of things.

878
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 2: If you're gonna knock off the Cleveland Browns twenty one

879
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 2: to seventeen Red Blake Bore, you got to have a

880
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 2: lot of things go your way, right, I mean that's

881
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 2: it's it's not gonna be one or two things. It

882
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 2: gonna be like eight or nine things conspiring to get

883
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 2: you there. And you know, you wouldn't even know about

884
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 2: beating the Cleveland balls. I mean you you're a tough task.

885
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 2: It's even tougher, right I I I just don't know

886
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 2: what to tell these folks. I don't know they're they're well,

887
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 2: i'll just read you the text. So we're supposed to

888
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 2: wait another year to see if JJ is a guy

889
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 2: that's really dumb, Neil, here's the fraudulent part of your observation.

890
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 2: I'll just ask the question point blank, are you prepared

891
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 2: potentially to sacrifice this season in order to get an

892
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 2: up close and personal look at JJ McCarthy, And if

893
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 2: you are, I'll respect it. Say no, I start the clock,

894
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 2: even if it means not giving this team the best

895
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 2: chance to be successful. We got to start the clock,

896
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 2: because that's the problem I have with that position.

897
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 3: You have to.

898
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 2: You can't then later whine about it if indeed the

899
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 2: rest of the team is no longer given the best

900
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 2: chance to be whatever it is now, you may make

901
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 2: the argument after five weeks that it really doesn't matter

902
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 2: who they have at quarterback right now, that they're not

903
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 2: as good as advertised anyway, So you might as well

904
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 2: start the clock on JJ McCarthy.

905
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 3: I just I don't. I don't.

906
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 2: I don't get that sentiment at all, because I don't

907
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 2: think folks are consistent with it. He's saying it because

908
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 2: his assumption is all those JJ McCarthy highlight real things

909
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 2: he saw, He's gonna see really really quick.

910
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 3: He wants because.

911
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 2: He looks good. He looked good in the fourth quarter

912
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 2: against the Bears. This is from seven to one guy

913
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 2: two things with Wentz and JJ one. The youngsters want

914
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: a young now with it and while franchise QB so

915
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 2: they really undervalue anything Wentz does, Ding Ding Ding Two.

916
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 3: I added the dings by the way.

917
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: Two.

918
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 2: I know you may not give this oxygen, but Minnesotan's

919
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 2: took that look their nose down at North Dakota and NDSU,

920
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 2: so heaven forbid, Carson produces that said, I too want

921
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 2: a franchise quarterback for the next two decades.

922
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 3: I'm not sure I buy number two. Do you. I

923
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 3: really don't.

924
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 2: Think that's driving any of the patronizing on wins. I

925
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 2: do think what does drive it is Number one. You

926
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 2: want to see, even waiting your whole life for the

927
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 2: shiny toy. JJ McCarthy, you want to see it so

928
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 2: bad and you've already put on in your mind how

929
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 2: miserable he was. He has a QBR rating that is

930
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 2: the lowest in football. Right now, what do we quote,

931
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 2: it's like twenty one to one. He wouldn't even make

932
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 2: the top forty. But you're so you've put that out

933
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 2: of your mind very quickly as being that just that's,

934
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 2: you know, that's not that big a deal. And while

935
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 2: you're doing that, you're gonna downplay nine for nine. I'm

936
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 2: at last drive, picture perfect drive in which Wentz did

937
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 2: everything that he needed to do. He got good play calling,

938
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 2: good execution from players, he got help from players.

939
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 3: There's no question it was a marriage of.

940
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 2: Good I guess I think it diversified play calls, series

941
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 2: of play calls, and everybody getting the job done offensive line,

942
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 2: receivers and quarterback. And you're kind of conveniently putting that

943
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 2: aside because it doesn't fit what you're looking for. So look,

944
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 2: maybe you'll be right. And I've never said I'm done

945
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 2: seeing JJ this year. What I've said is I don't

946
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 2: think football teams work this way where you just can

947
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 2: sort of give the back of your hand to winning.

948
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 2: And I think even if you want to believe McCarthy's

949
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 2: the guy forever or going to be the guy forever,

950
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 2: I just don't think teams look at it like, well,

951
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ignore results in the introm So.

952
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 3: A lot of this may be academic.

953
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 2: Maybe Wentz's shoulder is gonna end up being worse than

954
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:17,240
Speaker 2: we think allegedly he's being examined right now. Once again,

955
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 2: there might be a maybe that's the soft benching for

956
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 2: Wentz this time as opposed to the last soft benching

957
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 2: last time for JJ, where JJ has to become the

958
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 2: guy because they're not gonna, as much as it'll annoy

959
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 2: guard Gie, they're not gonna. They do not want Max

960
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 2: Brosmer to start right now.

961
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 5: They just don't.

962
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: I think if you're gonna make the JJ argument, like

963
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: if you're in a debate team, you've got to take

964
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: the argument. I think it's how much more of a

965
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: ceiling do you have with Wentz this season.

966
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 3: For twenty twenty five? Exactly right?

967
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 1: Because if they're going, let's just say they're not going

968
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: to the big game for all intentsive purposes, just for

969
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 1: the sake of debate, right, and they might let's say

970
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 1: with Wentz they go ten and seven? Is that worth

971
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: putting off? If I were making the case for McCarthy

972
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 1: to play, is a ten and seventh season winning enough

973
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: to put off a year of potential growing pains for

974
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 1: McCarthy that if I was trying to defend JJ, that's

975
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: why I would go, well, is that much? Is that

976
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 1: three more wins worth it in the long term to

977
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: maybe set him back in his growing pain?

978
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 2: Well, that that's where it gets tricky, because it sounds

979
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 2: like you're setting it up in a way that well,

980
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 2: then you might as well just go with JJ because

981
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 2: there's not that big a gap. The problem with this

982
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 2: whole thing is the way this team has been constructed.

983
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: This team has been constructed as if every season matters,

984
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 2: including this one, and they've got they've added age. In fact,

985
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 2: it's already kind of bitten them in the butt. Regarding

986
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 2: the center, one could say age as in too much

987
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 2: experience and now the concussion issue.

988
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 3: And that's where it gets. That's the disconnect.

989
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 2: You add all these parts as if no, we're we're

990
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 2: not sacrificing any season, including this season. And I don't know,

991
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 2: can you tell that to your players with a straight face.

992
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 2: I mean, you got a lot of other players who

993
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 2: don't want to write right off any seasons at all.

994
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 2: I just I saw a guy that needs a lot

995
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 2: of work man, and I get it. It's catch twenty two.

996
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 2: The only way he gets the work is if he's

997
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 2: out there. But does that make sense with a team

998
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 2: that's not as old as this team. That's still the

999
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 2: contradiction to me that we've talked about before. All right,

1000
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 2: let's do this. We'll get one more pause in because

1001
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 2: again what I've said all along is likely Wentz comes

1002
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 2: back to the pack, no pun intended. And as he

1003
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 2: comes back to the pack, then I think it's easier

1004
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 2: to say, we got nothing to lose.

1005
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 3: You might as well put the kid back in.

1006
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 2: Maybe he got some juice, Maybe you learned a couple

1007
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 2: of things when I was out, Maybe some other things

1008
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 2: will come.

1009
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 3: Together for him.

1010
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 2: It was never me committing the entire season to Carson Wentz.

1011
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 2: I just I've been around this team quarterbacks for a

1012
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 2: long time, and I tend to come from the philosophy

1013
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 2: of you got a guy who's going okay, and you're

1014
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 2: winning a decent number of your games.

1015
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 3: Let it play out. He'll come back to the pack.

1016
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 2: Probably he'll he'll he'll revert, and the minute he reverts

1017
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 2: you then you can make that move. And by my goodness,

1018
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 2: if he doesn't revert, you play it out a lot longer.

1019
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 2: I still don't buy. Where is JJ McCarthy going not

1020
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 2: going anywhere? Your guy sat for five years?

1021
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 3: Didn't he? Well, wasn't that long? Was three still a

1022
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 3: lot longer than JJ did? It's the bumper to bumper show.

1023
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: Rack inscribed to buy American pressure.

1024
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 4: Uh.

1025
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 2: This whole talk about JJ and Carson is irrelevant because

1026
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 2: Carson is just going to get hurt.

1027
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:48,240
Speaker 3: Anyways.

1028
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 2: I think I've said that about five times that that

1029
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 2: could change everything. But okay, on the NDSU angle, this

1030
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 2: is an absolute thing. For those who are also Gopher fans,

1031
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 2: the brozbor Bobos would rather lose with him than win

1032
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 2: with Wentz. Wentz was a Vikings fan most of his life,

1033
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 2: but will never be one of us. Brosemer hangs on

1034
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 2: campus for six months, and somehow he is grandfathered in

1035
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 2: on JJ McCarthy. Correct if I'm wrong. Aaron Rodgers set two,

1036
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 2: if not three seasons for far. Also, JJ was a year,

1037
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 2: not two years, younger than when Rogers started. As long

1038
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 2: as they're winning with Carson Wentz, what's the rush? Blakemore

1039
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 2: hit the nail on the head ten to seventh season

1040
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 2: with the first round playoff bounds, isn't worth it.

1041
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 3: We've seen this movie.

1042
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 2: Time to take our lumps, developing the new kid you

1043
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 2: catches on quickly. Here you may sneak in the playoffs

1044
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 2: and get some experience. Either way, it's time to get

1045
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 2: back to JJ again. I get it, but I'll ask

1046
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 2: for the fifth time. That's not the way this team

1047
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:51,240
Speaker 2: operated in this offseason. If you believe what that individual believes,

1048
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 2: you don't make the moves that they've made with aging veterans.

1049
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 3: It just doesn't.

1050
00:51:56,440 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 2: It's counterintuitive, and that has been kind of the central tradiction.

1051
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 2: I think if this whole season hindsight's twenty twenty. But

1052
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,919
Speaker 2: didn't bow Nicks look good on Sunday? He was picked

1053
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:12,720
Speaker 2: after JJ. Knicks has looked good. I you know, again,

1054
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 2: he hasn't led them to the Promised Land yet, but

1055
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 2: he has been better than I thought he would be.

1056
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 2: And by the way, to those who want to play

1057
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 2: the young kid, he played a lot last year, so

1058
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 2: you could say that's the kind of experience you need,

1059
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 2: and that's why you need to start the clock on

1060
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy.

1061
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 3: I'm thirty eight.

1062
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 2: Absolutely want McCarthy to work out, also want the Vikings

1063
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 2: to be as competitive as possible.

1064
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 3: In years when we argue we have the town to

1065
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 3: do so.

1066
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 2: The current roster went healthy as a talent to hang

1067
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 2: in with the league that is currently filled with parody.

1068
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 2: Wentz has totally won me over. We're not the best,

1069
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 2: but a team like the Ravens is currently one in four.

1070
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 2: As long as we can cobble together wins, we should

1071
00:52:53,320 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 2: keep trying to win. McCarthy absolutely has potential where well so,

1072
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 2: which means that the coaching staff completely misjudge JJ's readiness

1073
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 2: to start the year. Well, that's worth of conversation. Maybe

1074
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 2: we'll have some of that conversation with Kevin Seffert. In fairness,

1075
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 2: we haven't seen enough of McCarthy, I think to conclude that,

1076
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: and I don't like what I've seen, but you got

1077
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 2: to have a little bit more before you can flat

1078
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 2: out say he is not particularly ready. Brosmer will lap

1079
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 2: JJ at training camp this upcoming season.

1080
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 3: Now would that be next season? Or is it that?

1081
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 3: Is that like the next Sunday discussion. Good to hear

1082
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 3: guards he's listening to this.

1083
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 2: Well, uh, it's okay with if it's okay with Danny

1084
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 2: foemantor let's leave the Vikings starting quarterback decision.

1085
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 3: To kao C. Listening to weeks of this is losing

1086
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 3: its luster.

1087
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 2: I can't help the fact that McCarthy's.

1088
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 3: Been hurt what he's supposed to do.

1089
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 2: The games are still being played, there's still decisions.

1090
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 3: That have to be made. I didn't play it this way.

1091
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 3: Don't get hurt.

1092
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 2: McCarthy might be the worst quarterback selected in that draft.

1093
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 2: Think about it, man, And people say I'm negative. I mean, man,

1094
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 2: And by the way, it's not like I was disagreeing

1095
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:14,919
Speaker 2: with you. No, no, I know, No, you're making the point.

1096
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,439
Speaker 2: I had a problem with that point. No way, Max

1097
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 2: Brosmer is ready this season. No way, don't want to

1098
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,479
Speaker 2: stay in the middle forever like the Wild. We're done

1099
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 2: staying forever in the middle. That's all we got. We

1100
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 2: got our guy signed, Caprice off. We're on our way now, right,

1101
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 2: new era starts now. Nothing's going to stop us at

1102
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 2: this point. No preezy suitter contracts to hunt hinder us.

1103
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 2: Come on, isn't box bo Nicks twenty five already? McCarthy

1104
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 2: is only twenty two, and I think Brozmur's twenty eight.

1105
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 2: But we still like him. Well, I'm exaggerating a little bit.

1106
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 2: He's been around a little bit. Uh, can JJ stay healthy?

1107
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 3: That's from Scooter. I don't know.

1108
00:54:54,080 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 2: We'll have to see. That's it's a fair question. There

1109
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 2: are college quarterbacks playing right now that are older than JJ.

1110
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 2: All that proves to me is it's not going to

1111
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 2: be the end of the world if he sits a

1112
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 2: longer period of time. Hell, he could sit four years

1113
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 2: and still be younger than bo Nicks, for God's sake.

1114
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 3: So we'll see how it goes. I don't know. Now,

1115
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 3: we got a plenty.

1116
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 2: The problem is now we got with the bye week,

1117
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,439
Speaker 2: we got nothing but time, and there's gonna be even

1118
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 2: more and more of this kind of conversation and discussion.

1119
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 2: But that's good because that gives us something to talk about.

1120
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,760
Speaker 2: I don't even know the guest lineup tomorrow. I'm hoping

1121
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 2: Seffert's back because I think he's back from across the Pond,

1122
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 2: and because we move Johnny to today.

1123
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 3: Oh Adam Field is added.

1124
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 2: I think he is scheduled for three point thirty on

1125
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,959
Speaker 2: tomorrow's program. There'll be plenty to talk about with him.

1126
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 2: No rights Hendo in Minneapolis. We don't care about the

1127
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 2: NDSU angle. We embraced far after hating him forever. Well,

1128
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 2: the truth is you didn't embrace him right away.

1129
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 3: I was there.

1130
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 2: I remember because I said you should embrace him right away.

1131
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 2: And there are a lot of Oh, I don't know,

1132
00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 2: I don't know if I can ever do this, I'll

1133
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 2: go frauds. If he wins enough games, you'll absolutely love him.

1134
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 3: And you should.

1135
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 2: But in the beginning there was a little bit of

1136
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 2: pushback on what are we doing with number four?

1137
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 1: And let's be honest, the Packers are about a thousand

1138
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: times more hated in this town than end.

1139
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 2: YESU, no question, that's not even closer. Right with that

1140
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 2: one hundred percent. I think guards he's back tomorrow. I

1141
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 2: think I appreciate the help. Brett Blake Moore podcast will

1142
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 2: be available later. A lot of good Vikings, talking points,

1143
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 2: Mike Conley in studio with us, Ben Lieber with US.

1144
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 3: Today and what else do we have?

1145
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,240
Speaker 2: Guest Wise, that was it, right, Mike Conley, Yeah, Conley

1146
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 2: liber yeah, because the first hour was why and Johnny?

1147
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 3: How could I ever forget?

1148
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 5: Johnny?

1149
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 3: Thanks for listening. We'll talk to you tomorrow. Three