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Speaker 3: hour number two this afternoon, as well as in our

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Speaker 3: number two from Fox nineteen. We'll talk to our good

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Speaker 3: friend Joe Daniman. He'll join us at one o'clock. In

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Speaker 3: the third hour. The two o'clock hour, we have some

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Speaker 3: Scott Saderfield audio Scott Saderfield and in the next couple

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Speaker 3: minutes we'll speak in Clifton about their upcoming matchup. Big

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Speaker 3: noon kickoff happening Saturday afternoon. That will tie over to

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Speaker 3: Saturday night, an eight pm start for the Bearcats against

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Speaker 3: the BYU Cougar's. You'll hear from head coach Scott Saderfield.

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Speaker 3: We've got some audio that we've picked out from what

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Speaker 3: Zach Taylor had to say in his Monday afternoon press

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Speaker 3: conference yesterday. We'll talk all things Bengals. We'll talk from

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Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson, We'll talk some Cam Taylor Britt, perhaps from

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Speaker 3: Jermaine Burton, and of course we will talk more Jamar

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Speaker 3: where we at least have to have a discussion about

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Speaker 3: what's going on with Hunter Green. And when I say

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Speaker 3: what's going on with Hunter Green, I mean the I

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Speaker 3: would say whispers, the rumblings that there are some within

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Speaker 3: the organization that may be unhappy with Hunter Green. That

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Speaker 3: was the topic of conversation on a very recent article

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Speaker 3: with the Cincinnati Reds On Sports Illustrated, Greg Kufner wrote

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Speaker 3: an article some member of the Reds organization may be

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Speaker 3: unhappy with Hunter Green, goes on to talk about Hunter

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Speaker 3: Green trade Rumors continue to swirl. Would the Reds trade him?

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Speaker 3: We'll discuss that at some point this afternoon. Also tonight,

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Speaker 3: college basketball slate is a good one. Xavier is going

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Speaker 3: to play host to Old Dominion at the Centas Center.

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Speaker 2: Louisville.

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Speaker 3: U See's opponent on Friday night is up to number

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Speaker 3: six in the college basketball rankings, and we have a

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Speaker 3: pair of top twenty five matchups tonight. Duke takes on

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Speaker 3: Kansas and the twelfth rank Kentucky Wildcats take on Tom

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Speaker 3: Izzo's Michigan State Spartans. We will talk all things college

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Speaker 3: basketball as well. Let's get you up to speak with

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Speaker 3: everything else going on in the sports world, and we'll

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Speaker 3: take your phone calls along the way. Five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 3: fifteen thirty Monday Night Football. Last night, Austin, Monday Night Football.

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Speaker 3: It was an impressive one for the Dallas Cowboys. Is

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Speaker 3: there a correlation that Logan Wilson comes to the Cowboys

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Speaker 3: and all of a sudden that defense looked okay?

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Speaker 2: I don't know that Logan Wilson is the correlation, but

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Speaker 2: Quinn Williams looked pretty damn good. Williams wasn't bad. The

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Speaker 2: Raiders also continue to have struggles with their offensive line,

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Speaker 2: and I saw a little bit of that last night

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Speaker 2: as well. Dak Prescott looked good last night. Dak Prescott

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Speaker 2: looked George Pickens looked good last night. Now, George Pickens

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Speaker 2: and Ceedee Lamb both didn't participate in this opening drive

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Speaker 2: for the Cowboys, and what appeared to be a coach's

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Speaker 2: decision slash disciplinary something. Brian Schottenheimer was then pretty buddy

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Speaker 2: buddy with him on the sideline after that. So not

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Speaker 2: sure what to make of that. But the Cowboys, you know,

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Speaker 2: they look better, and they have a big game coming

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Speaker 2: up against Philadelphia team They're able to beat Philadelphia and

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Speaker 2: then right back in it. You know, I don't think

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Speaker 2: it's crazy to think that with a marginally better defense,

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Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys could make some noise in the NF.

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Speaker 3: They added Quinn Williams, they added Logan Wilson. They also

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Speaker 3: the George Pickens move makes a lot more. George Pickens

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Speaker 3: is playing extremely well. That seems to be a good

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Speaker 3: fit alongside Ceed Lamb, Jake Ferguson. That's a good offense.

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Speaker 3: That is a good offense in Dallas. They round off

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Speaker 3: the uh what is it? Week eleven of the NFL

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Speaker 3: slate last night with a big win over the Las

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Speaker 3: Vegas Raiders, who by the way, fall to two and

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Speaker 3: eight on the season. I expected a little more from

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Speaker 2: Especially when you consider Week one they beat the New

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Speaker 2: England Patriots in New England. Yeah, kind of hard to believe. Yep.

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Speaker 3: How about this speaking hard to believe? We keep having

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Speaker 3: these NFL plays is getting their homes broken into.

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Speaker 2: What's up with this? It's the same.

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Speaker 3: Situation we've been dealing with for a long time. Shaud

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Speaker 3: Door Sanders had his home broken into during his NFL debut.

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Speaker 3: In the last year or so, burglaries have taken place

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Speaker 3: at the homes of Luka Doncik, Joe Burrow, Pat Mahomes,

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Speaker 2: We'd be better with this, isn't there. I want to

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Speaker 2: say there was another NBA guy too, maybe a couple

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Speaker 2: of NBA guys. It's just the unfortunate reality of the

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Speaker 2: world in which we live. When people know where you're

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Speaker 2: gonna be and you're gonna be away, and if you

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Speaker 2: do anything to make your address or your whereabouts known, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you become a target for some of these people.

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Speaker 3: True, there is a new coach in place in college football,

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Speaker 3: James Franklin has agreed to become the new head coach

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Speaker 3: of the Virginia Tech Hokies.

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Speaker 2: You can't lose any big games if you don't play

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Speaker 3: Moiger asked me yesterday when we talked about this news

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Speaker 3: come together and rejoice when he loses games at Virginia

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Speaker 3: Tech like the sports world did when he lost games

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Speaker 3: at Penn State.

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Speaker 2: No, because Virginia Tech is irrelevant. Penn State was relevant

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Speaker 2: because of the years of Joe Paterno, and then they

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Speaker 2: became a punching bag, and deservedly so for the Paterno

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Speaker 2: and Jerry Sandusky situation where people rooted against them and

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Speaker 2: wanted that program to fail. And so when they rose

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Speaker 2: back to national prominence, and there was always this this

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Speaker 2: arrogance about Penn State that I perceived that they thought

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Speaker 2: they were a little bit bigger and better and more

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Speaker 2: important than they really were. Sure, and so teams would

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Speaker 2: revel in the losses of Penn State, and yeah, it was.

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Speaker 2: It was a beautiful day. I think James Franklin's a

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Speaker 2: good guy. I just never really rooted for him to win. Sure,

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Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people feel that way

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Speaker 2: about And I hope that's how people feel. And I

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Speaker 2: know that's how people feel about Ohio State. People think

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Speaker 2: they're arrogant, root against them, want them to lose. Bama

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Speaker 2: is that same way, Michigan is that same way. It's

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Speaker 2: that's you know, one of the foundational pieces of college

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Speaker 2: football is hate watching against other people. It is it is.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of the college football coaching carousel, Old Miss has

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Speaker 3: handed Lane Kiffen an ultimatum. Oh boy, Now he is

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Speaker 3: a rumored candidate of LSU and Florida openings, and so

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Speaker 3: Old Miss came back and said, here you go, buddy,

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Speaker 3: You're gonna have to decide on your future by November

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Speaker 3: twenty eighth for the Egg Bowl. Do you do you

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Speaker 3: agree with this from Old Miss? Because here's a team

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Speaker 3: at Old Miss. They are in the thick of the

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Speaker 3: college football playoff race, They're trying to play for a

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Speaker 3: by touple schools right now. Do you agree with Old

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Speaker 3: Miss coming in and saying, hey, We're gonna give you

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Speaker 3: an ultimatum here, you gotta let us know by this date.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is one of the best seasons in ole

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Speaker 2: Miss football. Lane Kiffin is one of the highest paid

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Speaker 2: coaches in college football. He's obviously done a lot of

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Speaker 2: good things here, and it's embarrassing for them, insulting for them,

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Speaker 2: insulting for the players on the team to have Lane

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Speaker 2: Kiffin gallivanting around to other SEC schools in the midst

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Speaker 2: of a season in which you're expected to go to

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Speaker 2: the college football Playoff and compete for a national championship.

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Speaker 2: Old Miss has treated Lane Kiffin really well, treated his

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Speaker 2: family really well, paid him handsomely. So they have the

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Speaker 2: right to say, hey, man, you have a month to

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Speaker 2: figure this out, because we got to get a jump

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Speaker 2: and we're not going to be dealing with this mess

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Speaker 2: in the postseason. Yeah. And I think it's kind of

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Speaker 2: similar to we're right around the time where the portal

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Speaker 2: So it's kind of aligning with that. It's like Okay,

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Speaker 2: we need to figure out what our coach is going

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Speaker 2: to do. Yeah, a local wise, hope, I hope he

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Speaker 2: doesn't leave. I too, it'll be good for college football

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Speaker 2: to have him stay. I think it would be obviously,

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Speaker 2: like it's entertaining if he goes somewhere else. But I've

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Speaker 2: been enamored by his role in the success of Old Miss.

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Speaker 2: I think he's a fascinating end. It's also very open.

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Speaker 2: He's brought a level of relevance to Old Miss that

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Speaker 2: maybe they haven't had in a while. I think it

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Speaker 2: would be fun if he was the head coach of

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Speaker 3: A couple other injury notes, Justice Haynes, the running back

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Speaker 3: for Michigan, is likely out for the rest of the

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Speaker 3: regular season, which means that at Cincinnati and Mohler product

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Speaker 3: Jordan Marshall is in the top running back slot now.

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Speaker 3: He moved into that role, but left Saturday's game against

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Speaker 3: Mohler's Jordan Marshall would now be the lead back for

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Speaker 3: the Michigan Wolverines. And speaking of injury news, Tom Pella

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Speaker 3: Sero reporting earlier today that Aaron Rodgers has underwent further

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Speaker 3: test that confirmed he won't need surgery on his fractured

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Speaker 3: left wrist. Rogers is pushing to play Sunday at Chicago,

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Speaker 3: but doctors must clear him and the status is still

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Speaker 2: I like Aaron Rodgers. I like the rivalry that he

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Speaker 2: him play Chicago in Chicago, maybe the last time. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I would be interested to see that. I hope that

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Speaker 2: he is able to play, and also I don't know

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Speaker 2: this part, I don't know. It might actually be, you know,

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Speaker 2: both those things being a positive. Yeah. By the way,

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Speaker 2: you mentioned high school football, you mentioned Mohler. Have you

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Speaker 2: seen this grassroots campaign continuing to garner strength led by

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Speaker 2: one of our own rocky boymen. Yeah, try to get

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Speaker 2: this game between Seinex and Elder to be played at

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Speaker 2: pay Corp Stadium. Oh HSAA, figure it out. That's not

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Speaker 2: a bright organization.

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Speaker 3: Listen, and what we're learning as well, like the tickets

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Speaker 3: went on sale like during school hours, so a lot

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Speaker 3: of I'm hearing a lot of the students missed out

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Speaker 3: According to Rocky Boyman, folks that he's talked to at

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Speaker 3: the Bengals and Hamilton County are on board to put

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Speaker 3: it at pay Corps. He says, give the fans an

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Speaker 2: Doesn't seem like the OHSAA is going to budge on this,

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Speaker 5: Zack, if you had conversations with Jamar about what happened.

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Speaker 6: Yesterday in Pittsburgh, I have to myself you.

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Speaker 7: Well, first of all, I've always been impressed with how

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Speaker 7: And I've always thought it was unbelievable Always handled himself

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Speaker 8: I guess the reason I ask you is because you're

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and how do you feel? How do they feel?

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Speaker 3: So I see what's happening here, and I'll give Mike

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Speaker 3: Zach knows what's happening. I just don't think Zach can

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Speaker 2: I don't know that he's ever going to get that answer.

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Speaker 2: I've been thinking about this too, because you know, well

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Speaker 6: So I can't say a lot more about it.

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Speaker 2: And said, you know, you don't anticipate any personality tackling.

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Speaker 2: Why why why is that.

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Speaker 6: Well, tackling is not the only thing we have to

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Speaker 6: And so there's more than just tackling.

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Speaker 7: It's frustrating when tackling is an issue, but there's a

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Speaker 7: lot more that goes into whether player players not. We

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Speaker 7: factor in everything, and we talk about these things every

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Speaker 7: week on whether we want to make a personal.

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Speaker 6: Decision or not.

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Speaker 7: But there's just more that's got a factor into it

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Speaker 7: than one element of his game. And there are times,

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Speaker 7: I'm sure there's been times where there's been one element

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Speaker 7: that's been a deciding factor on whether guys players or not.

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Speaker 7: But I think in some of these cases that you're

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Speaker 7: probably bringing up, there's more to it that plays into it,

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Speaker 7: and we have to make a sound decision. We're not

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Speaker 7: afraid to make a decision if we think that there's

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Speaker 7: a better way to approach it. If we don't know

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Speaker 7: that there's a better way to necessarily approach something, then

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Speaker 7: we'll keep trying to fix the ones with the guys

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Speaker 7: we got when it comes to all.

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Speaker 3: Right, so very I think this is Zach going in

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Speaker 3: a little more detail. He was asked after the game

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Speaker 3: about personnel changes. He shot it down immediately. This is

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Speaker 3: just peeling back the curtain a little bit into It's

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Speaker 3: more than just can we substitute a guy in that

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Speaker 3: can tackle better? It's do they fit in the system?

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Speaker 3: Do they know their responsibility to the other calls their checks?

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Speaker 3: Are they getting everyone else lined up? Are they lined

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Speaker 3: up correctly? There's a lot that goes into it, and

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Speaker 3: a lot of tackling is effort, but the end of

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Speaker 3: the day, that means the effort hasn't been good enough.

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Speaker 3: Because the tackling hasn't been good enough, this is a

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Speaker 3: terrible tackling team at this point. Are we passed the

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Speaker 3: whole Well, it's more than that. Are we ready to

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Speaker 3: start seeing other guys get opportunities for this defense?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I think this could be the point in which it changes,

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Speaker 2: because now the season is over, Like there really is

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Speaker 2: no path unless you went out and get a lot

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Speaker 2: of help, and nobody expects that to happen. But basically,

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Speaker 2: to me, that translation was PJ. Jewles and Tyson Anderson

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Speaker 2: and those guys they don't know the playbook well enough.

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Speaker 2: They don't know where to get lined up. We don't

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Speaker 2: have faith in their ability to understand the defense. So

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Speaker 2: we aren't playing them, and so now number one, that's

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Speaker 2: an indictment on them. That's how I perceived that message.

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Speaker 2: And number two, now that we've reached the point where

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Speaker 2: the season is basically over, are you willing to take

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Speaker 2: more chances with those guys? And I also appreciated that

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Speaker 2: he acknowledged it looks bad, the effort looks bad, and

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Speaker 2: there's only so much we can do about that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's only so many players on the roster. There's

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Speaker 3: only so many guys you can get in there. Lastly,

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Speaker 3: on the the criticism around what's going on with this team.

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Speaker 2: Zach, do you get a sense of the frustration around

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Speaker 2: the city from fans kind of as the season kind

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Speaker 2: of goes the way it does in the last couple

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Speaker 2: of years, how they've went, you get a sense of

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Speaker 2: kind of frustration that that kind of.

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Speaker 7: I'm not oblivious. I have to isolate myself. I have

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Speaker 7: to that's the only way I can function. And I

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Speaker 7: think that's understandable. But you also, again, it's no one

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Speaker 7: puts more pressure on us than I do on myself

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Speaker 7: to get it right.

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Speaker 6: And so.

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Speaker 7: I'm not oblivious to frustration. And I know what our

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Speaker 7: record is and so that would have lead to that,

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Speaker 7: And I don't blame anybody for feeling that way. It's

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Speaker 7: it's our job as a as an NFL team to

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Speaker 7: go find wins and create energy and joy in this

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Speaker 7: fan base and our organization, in our locker room, coaching staff.

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Speaker 6: Winning.

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Speaker 7: Winning helps everybody do their job the next day, the

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Speaker 7: next week, and I want nothing more than that. And

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Speaker 7: I know if we can string together some wins, we'll

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Speaker 7: start to build build, build some some optimism. But but

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Speaker 7: first we've got to show a step in the right direction.

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Speaker 6: I'm doing that. So until we do that, I understand

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Speaker 6: how difficult it is, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, I just that to me is important because it's

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Speaker 3: at least a coach now that's looking this square in

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Speaker 3: the eye of Yeah. I understand what's going on. I

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Speaker 3: understand the voices that are out there. I understand the

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Speaker 3: angst among fans, and yes, we have to win games.

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Speaker 3: I think there's an emphasis on that now. It does

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Speaker 3: put more pressure on to win, but at least he's

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Speaker 3: not up there acting completely blind to the fact of

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Speaker 3: the criticism that is now surrounding this organization.

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Speaker 2: I have to isolate myself. That's the only way I

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Speaker 2: can function This to me goes back to the first

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Speaker 2: answer and the first question about how we don't hear

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Speaker 2: from anyone else. We don't hear from Duke Tobin. Now

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Speaker 2: I can. I've watched enough of Zach Taylor and seen

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Speaker 2: him and been around him and heard enough to feel

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Speaker 2: pretty confident in the character and the person that is

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Speaker 2: Zach Taylor. I believe he's a good man. I think

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Speaker 2: he's a good leader. I think he's a good football coach.

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Speaker 2: I've said that many times, and I believe more than anything,

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Speaker 2: he's a stand up, high character individual. When I see

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Speaker 2: that guys like Duke Tobin don't speak, that then leads

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Speaker 2: me to question their character. I don't know anything about

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Speaker 2: Duke Tobin, don't know anything about I'd literally know nothing

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Speaker 2: about that guy other than who his father is and

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Speaker 2: what his job has been over the last twenty years.

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Speaker 2: And if it were me in that situation, if I

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Speaker 2: were in the shoes of Duke Tobin, and this guy

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Speaker 2: that I work with every single day has to answer

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Speaker 2: for my transgressions and is having to isolate himself and

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Speaker 2: I'm sure in ways his family so that he can function.

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Speaker 2: And I don't do anything to put myself out there

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Speaker 2: to say hey, here, I'll talk, I'll explain, here's my

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Speaker 2: side of things, here's what we're going through as an organization.

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Speaker 2: That to me is a reflection of poor character. I

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Speaker 2: don't know him. I don't know what his character's like,

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Speaker 2: know nothing about Duke Tobin. He's done nothing to really

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Speaker 2: prove to me that he is this real good stand

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Speaker 2: up guy. But to me, that's like an example of

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Speaker 2: being a bad teammate. Duke Tobin not not willing to

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Speaker 2: raise his hand and say, hey, let me answer some

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Speaker 2: of these tough I'm responsible for this as well. And

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Speaker 2: you know that just the more I think about it,

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Speaker 2: the more it doesn't sit right with me. And maybe

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Speaker 2: my opinion would be different if I heard from Duke frequently.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, especially when things go as poorly as

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Speaker 2: they have, and you know, you could could be listening

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Speaker 2: to this and saying, well, you should hold the owners

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Speaker 2: to the same standard, and to an extent I do. However,

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Speaker 2: I will say there's not a lot of owners across

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Speaker 2: the NFL to talk. That's not that common. But players,

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Speaker 2: player personnel directors, gms, those people are talking very frequently.

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Speaker 3: Especially on a bye week, especially when things are going

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Speaker 3: the way in which it has. Someone has to stand

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Speaker 3: up there and help Zach Taylor. It's hard because I

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Speaker 3: listened that and I genuinely do think Zach Taylor is

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Speaker 3: a great person, and I think Zach Taylor has done

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Speaker 3: good things here. I don't allow that to change the

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Speaker 3: fact that I don't think he should be the head

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Speaker 3: coach after this season.

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Speaker 2: Sure, that's fair, but it's.

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Speaker 3: Almost like he's he's doing this with one hand tied

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Speaker 3: behind his back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the hard part.

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Speaker 3: That's what I think pulls at you a little bit

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Speaker 3: because it's not a fair situation what he's being asked

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Speaker 3: to do.

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Speaker 2: And that's also what makes firing him complicated, because, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you have a patient ownership group, you have an elite quarterback,

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Speaker 2: and you have finances that you're able to spend moving

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Speaker 2: forward when it comes to the cap, the salary cap

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Speaker 2: that make the job attractive. But you are a punching

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Speaker 2: bag for the organization. No one has your back in

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Speaker 2: the media, nobody. Yeah, and you are dealing with a

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Speaker 2: style of business that some would say requires you to

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Speaker 2: have one hand tied behind your back. And so if

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Speaker 2: that's the case, are you ever going to be able

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Speaker 2: to get the best candidate to coach this team. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and the affair, and that's what makes a question, that's

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Speaker 2: what makes it difficult about to me, at least, flip

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Speaker 2: flopping on whether Zach should be fired or not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll take a break, we'll come back. We'll hear

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Speaker 3: Since he three to sixty rolled along on a Tuesday

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Speaker 3: afternoon ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Let's take some

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Speaker 3: phone calls for the first time this afternoon. Doc is

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Speaker 3: calling in.

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Speaker 2: What's up? Doc?

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Speaker 13: Hey?

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Speaker 14: First of all, Tony, I'm glad you're back, and you

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Speaker 14: might remember me. I first saw you when you were

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Speaker 14: twenty inches long.

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Speaker 2: That might give you a yes, yes, how are you?

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Speaker 14: I'm some fine getting holds hell, but it's still there.

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Speaker 14: I'll hear you two questions with quarterbacks quickly and your

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Speaker 14: and your opinion.

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Speaker 15: Uh.

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Speaker 14: First one is Joe Burrow rumors which keep you know,

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Speaker 14: which are not probably real, But if you got four

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Speaker 14: or five first round draft choices for him, would you

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Speaker 14: take it? And the second one is Brandon Soresby. The

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Speaker 14: sites on Chad's website and stuff, a lot of people

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Speaker 14: think they need to hold on to him at all costs,

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Speaker 14: and uh break the bank for him. And I think

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Speaker 14: they're a fair number of coquarterbacks. I'd like to keep him,

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Speaker 14: but I think there are current number of quarterbacks out

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Speaker 14: there that there that we could find it would be

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Speaker 14: pretty much equal. And I think we need to spend

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Speaker 14: their money in the defense of secondary in mind receiver rooms.

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Speaker 14: So it's fun to know what your opinions are.

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Speaker 3: Doc, I appreciate it. Thank you, Austin. Oddly enough, that

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Speaker 3: was that's the doctor who delivered me. Pretty cool that

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Speaker 3: first question. No, I would not give up Joe Burrow

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Speaker 3: for anything. It is so hard to come across a

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Speaker 3: franchise quarterback in this league. I would not give up

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow for any amount of first round picks. Would

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Speaker 3: you no for Brendan Soarsby. That question's tough because I

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Speaker 3: would have to see how he finishes the year. If

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Speaker 3: he struggles finishing the year, that would be two years

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Speaker 3: in a row where he has struggled down the stretch.

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Speaker 3: But if he picks it back up and finishes the

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Speaker 3: year strong, I would ask the question, who else better

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Speaker 3: could you get? I don't think that is out there,

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Speaker 3: so I would, in my opinion, again, because quarterback makes

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Speaker 3: this go, I would do everything I could to keep

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Speaker 3: renting Sortsman.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Soresby talking to the media right now.

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Speaker 2: He says his ankle is in good shape. He got

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Speaker 2: rolled up on against Arizona, but it sounds like he's

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Speaker 2: good to go for b Why there we go? What's up, Maso?

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Speaker 16: What's going on? Boys?

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Speaker 10: How are we doing today?

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Speaker 2: You tell me?

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Speaker 10: Well, unfortunately, Tony, I just got a text for Mali.

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Speaker 11: Uh.

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Speaker 10: There's a little protest on the beer pong tournament for

652
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 10: an elbow infraction.

653
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. I figured that would be coming at some point.

654
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Speaker 10: Yeah, So I don't know, you might have to return

655
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 10: that leg lamp trophy. But speaking of protest. Was there

656
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 10: a protest by the UC student Sunday night or what.

657
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen I've seen a lot of this going around.

658
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 3: I don't know what's to blame right now, students are

659
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 3: in school. To my knowledge, it was one of the

660
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 3: weakest student sections I've ever seen. I have no problem

661
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 3: calling that out. Uh, students have to be better. They've

662
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 3: got to show up to basketball games. I agree.

663
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Speaker 10: Okay, that's I was going to ask your stance on that,

664
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Speaker 10: and you can chime in if you want. But yeah,

665
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 10: I'm like, it should never be at least seventy five percent,

666
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 10: you know, it should be always seventy five percent full.

667
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't understand, especially like experience, in my opinion,

668
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 3: I get as well, Like if it's Thanksgiving or Christmas

669
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 3: break and students are just gone, but classes are in

670
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 3: session right now. It's a Sunday at six o'clock. How

671
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 3: are more things?

672
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Speaker 2: That's the issue? Sunday at six.

673
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Speaker 3: But it's also like it, But it's also like, enrollment's

674
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 3: never been higher at the University of Cincinnati. How are

675
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 3: you not filling that with two hundred students? As crazy

676
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 3: to No, I get it, I get it. I'm just

677
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 3: assuming that the games day and time is probably the biggest.

678
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Speaker 11: Reason why, right, Yeah.

679
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Speaker 10: I saw some different people saying, you know, it's Mount

680
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 10: Saint Mary's.

681
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 6: Too, and I shouldn't matter care who the opponent is.

682
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 16: Yeah, it shouldn't matter the opponent. It shouldn't matter.

683
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Speaker 10: You know. Everybody was saying, well, the team has been

684
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Speaker 10: terrible for seven years, haven't been to a you know,

685
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 10: NCAA tournament.

686
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Speaker 16: It doesn't matter. You're only in college for four years.

687
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 16: Live it up.

688
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 10: Yeah, go there, enjoy it, Go to every sporting event

689
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 10: that you can, and stop sitting on your phones and

690
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 10: your dorm rooms.

691
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 2: Go come ont preach, all right?

692
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Speaker 10: Anyway, Also onto the Bengals. I heard something yesterday which

693
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 10: was kind of funny. So if you go to a

694
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 10: restaurant for thirty some odd years and the food is

695
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 10: absolutely garbage, would you.

696
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 16: Still keep going to that restaurant?

697
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 2: Probably?

698
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Speaker 11: Not?

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00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 10: Okay, Then why do Bengals fans keep putting up with

700
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 10: this crap? It's stupid, it's it's trash what they put

701
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 10: out there.

702
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Speaker 16: Year in and year out.

703
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: I think that's the analogy is sports is just very

705
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 10: unique because because your team can duck for years and

706
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 10: years and years. But man, you keep on going, you

707
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 10: keep buying their gear, you keep coming back. But if

708
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 10: you go to a restaurant and you're and you get

709
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,919
Speaker 10: a bad play of food, you're probably not even going

710
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 10: back to a second time. Sure, it's just it kind

711
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 10: of struck. It was a funny analogy I heard on

712
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 10: Dan Patrick in this was like, yeah, that's yeah, that's

713
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 10: kind of an interesting one. So why, yeah, why do

714
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 10: we put ourselves through this misery? Because I'm at the

715
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 10: point where I'm not even mad anymore. Like I don't

716
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 10: get mad when they win or lose, or when they lose.

717
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 16: I'm at apathy.

718
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 10: I'm apathetic, like I don't even care.

719
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's that's the dangerous point, Maso, thank you,

720
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 3: brother yep By. That's the dangerous part is when people

721
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 3: stop caring. I would say to that analogy, there are

722
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 3: a lot of other restaurant options. There are a lot

723
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 3: of other choices that you could go to to eat.

724
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 3: There's not as many sporting teams locally that you can

725
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 3: pull for, and there's just something about sports that does

726
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 3: drag you in. And for this organization, they teased you.

727
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 3: You know, they went to the super Bowl, they went

728
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 3: to back to back AFC title games, and now you

729
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 3: have that taste. And I would equate it to the

730
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 3: opp I said Austin. I would equate it to going

731
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 3: somewhere and you get a taste of something really good

732
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 3: and then you keep trying to chase that to find

733
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 3: that high again. And I feel like that's what fans

734
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 3: are doing constantly with their sporting teams.

735
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Speaker 2: I get the restaurant analogy, and it does make sense.

736
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 2: But you know, May says right, if you don't like

737
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: a place, you can stop going. And the NFL is

738
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 2: no different. If you don't want to be a fan

739
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: of a team anymore, no one's forcing you to be

740
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 2: a fan of a team, which is why I think

741
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: the analogy of marriage fits better, because you've made a

742
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 2: commitment at some point in your life. This is my team.

743
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 2: This is who I'm gonna root for, This is who

744
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be a fan of, This is who I'm

745
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 2: going to live and die with. And there are times

746
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 2: where they're gonna make you mad, but you committed to them, right, Yeah,

747
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: there are times when you're gonna sleep on the couch,

748
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 2: but you committed to them, you know, And I think

749
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 2: that is the more apt comparison, but there's also an

750
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 2: out there too, and so if you choose to do that,

751
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: you're allowed to do that. And plenty of fans over

752
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 2: the the course of time have done that.

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00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, can I can? I just I got a text

754
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 3: from a good buddy of mind, and he makes a

755
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 3: good point, because can we just in a in a

756
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 3: nutshell think about what Maso's call was just about. Did

757
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 3: he criticize fans for not going to UC games and

758
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 3: then push back on fans for supporting the Bengals? Correct,

759
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 3: So we're just going on a circle, which come on

760
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 3: which organization you see basketball.

761
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Speaker 2: Which hasn't been to a tournament in seven years, or

762
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals football over the last twenty five years has

763
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 2: been better? Well, I mean take over the last seven years.

764
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: I didn't ask that part of the question. I asked

765
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Speaker 2: twenty five twenty five, which has been probably still the Bengals. Okay,

766
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 2: but I think I mean that is I gotta call

767
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 2: my guy masa out. I mean, if it's shaken with

768
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Speaker 2: your right and holding a rocket.

769
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's the same thing you want to Well,

770
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 3: fans need to show up. And now it's coming from

771
00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 3: a I know it comes from a point in love

772
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Speaker 3: with Maso because I believe Austin in Maso's time at

773
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Speaker 3: I won't share his college.

774
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 2: I believe he was years in college.

775
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 10: I was.

776
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 3: I believe he was banned from going to certain sporting

777
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 3: events in college because not surprise, he's a little bit

778
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 3: over the top.

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Speaker 2: Maybe there's too many Maso's that you see. Maybe, I mean,

780
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Speaker 2: I think it's a little bit different to have Maso's

781
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 2: back here. I think it's a little bit different if

782
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 2: you're a college student. Yeah, enjoy that experience. That's a

783
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 2: little bit.

784
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, he wasn't. He wasn't criticizing fans. He said to students.

785
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and for especially so many of them live on campus.

786
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 2: It's an easy trip, correct, So that I think, and

787
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 2: it's cheaper, you know, so that you know, in Maso's point,

788
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: I have his back.

789
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 3: Around it on that well taken. Uh, we'll take a break,

790
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 3: we'll come back. We'll try to wrap up the hour

791
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 3: with a call or two before we get to Joe

792
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 3: Daniman and boy do we have a lot to talk

793
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 3: about with Joe All coming up next to ESPN fifteen

794
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 3: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station Thanks to Skyline Chile, sure.

795
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Speaker 2: Welcome back.

796
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Speaker 3: Since he three sixty, we are rolling along. It's our

797
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Speaker 3: number one. Joe Daniman is going to join us in

798
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Speaker 3: just a few minutes. We've got a ton to get

799
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Speaker 3: to as it relates to the Cincinnati Bengals. Before we

800
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 3: get to that, we'll try to wrap up these phone

801
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 3: calls here in our number one. Coop is calling in.

802
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 3: What's up, Coop?

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Speaker 15: Hi?

804
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 2: You buddy good? How are you pretty good?

805
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 16: Uh? Pimp?

806
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 2: How are we living so?

807
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 13: Coop?

808
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 6: All right?

809
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 16: Hey?

810
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 10: An interesting.

811
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Speaker 17: Connection here is during the Payton era.

812
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Speaker 10: I was in Indianapolis and.

813
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 2: Bill Pollian was the GM.

814
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Speaker 17: Bill Pollian was out front and center on everything.

815
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Speaker 10: They had a weekly calling show.

816
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 17: Bill Pollian would take calls from local fans calling in.

817
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 16: He ran interference for everything.

818
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 17: He wanted the coaches to coach, and he would control

819
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Speaker 17: everything else.

820
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

821
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 17: Now maybe was a little over the top. Now the

822
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 17: coaches would get up and give a weekly press conference,

823
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 17: but he was out front and center. He was answering

824
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 17: all the questions for the organization, not the head coach. Coaches, coach,

825
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 17: the GM handles everything else.

826
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Speaker 10: Did it seemed to work?

827
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Speaker 16: It worked?

828
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 10: Well?

829
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Coop, that's a great point. We appreciate the phone call.

830
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 3: Look, I don't even think we're I'm not even asking

831
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 3: for that, obviously, Bill Pollian, on a weekly basis getting

832
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 3: up there and taking phone calls from listeners from Austin,

833
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 3: that would be like Duke Tobin coming on this show

834
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 3: once a week and taking calls he should He's welcome to.

835
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 3: He's more than welcome to. I'm not even asking for

836
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,959
Speaker 3: that extent. But on a bye week, when your team

837
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 3: is spiraling in the wrong direction, you need to stand

838
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 3: up there and take some ownership. As you said, it's

839
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 3: supposed to be a team. Everyone's supposed to have each

840
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:07,720
Speaker 3: other's backs. Duke Tobin last week essentially sat back Austin

841
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 3: and watched and listened to Zach Taylor have to answer

842
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 3: for all of his mistakes and didn't think too say,

843
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 3: you know what, I gotta put this to bed. I

844
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 3: got to go talk that to me. And as you

845
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 3: mentioned earlier, that to me is a little bit of

846
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 3: a character issue. That should not be the case. Something

847
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 3: should eat away at you so much to say, and

848
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 3: I'm done letting this guy take the fall for me.

849
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 3: I'm done listening to him had to answer for my

850
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 3: mistakes and to the time, yet that's not been the case. John,

851
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 3: last call here to wrap it up.

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Speaker 16: What's up John, Good afternoon, fellas.

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Speaker 18: I think this all leads back to something you touched

854
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 18: on yesterday, the lack of sense of urgency in the organization.

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00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 16: I mean, your owner's ninety one years old.

856
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 18: If I make it to ninety one years old, I'm

857
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 18: only buying green bananas.

858
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 16: I'm not buying green bananas.

859
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 18: Actually I'm buying yellow bananas or maybe brown bananas, because

860
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 18: who knows how long it's gonna last. But you just

861
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 18: look at Duke Tobin and can you believe this? Of

862
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 18: one hundred and twenty four professional sports franchises in North America,

863
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 18: he's the second longest tenured executive. The only one that's

864
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 18: been in their job longer is Brian Cashman with the

865
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 18: New York Yankees. Right two World Series with Brian Cashman.

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Speaker 18: There so lack of urgency white throughout the entire organization,

867
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Speaker 18: So it permeates down to the coaches, the players. It's

868
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 18: kind of more of a country club atmosphere that there's

869
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 18: going to be no repercussions. The other thing too, I

870
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 18: think one of the callers touched on this yesterday, you know,

871
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Speaker 18: for ten fifteen years ago, they were a bad boy Bengals, right,

872
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Speaker 18: Chris Henry pac Man, Jones, Bontest Burfect. Has the organization

873
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Speaker 18: done a one eighty and just wants to draft high

874
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Speaker 18: character guys like Demetrius Knight.

875
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Speaker 16: Seems like a great guy.

876
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 18: He's already a dad, was working as uber driving a

877
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Speaker 18: support his family.

878
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Speaker 2: I want that guy to be my son in law.

879
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Speaker 18: I don't know if I wanted to be.

880
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Speaker 16: My football player.

881
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Speaker 19: So you know, they've done like a flip of like

882
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 19: no more questionable car because we want just nice guys

883
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Speaker 19: and they may not be really good football players. So

884
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Speaker 19: a lot of that is from thirty thousand feet away.

885
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, there's a point that John, thank you for

886
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 3: the call. As always, there was a point Austin where

887
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Speaker 3: it felt like it shifted to where they were wanting

888
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 3: high character guys and captains right of successful teams. And again,

889
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 3: that's good to have on your team. Sometimes that doesn't

890
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 3: equate to the best football player, and I think you

891
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 3: have to find a balance between the two.

892
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Speaker 11: Yeah.

893
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Speaker 2: I think they did that for a couple of years

894
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Speaker 2: and built what they thought was a good culture and

895
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Speaker 2: then deviated from that a little bit with some picks,

896
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Speaker 2: but the culture was so strong that you thought you

897
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Speaker 2: could deviate from that. Yes, that's my point. Zach Jackson

898
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Speaker 2: Carmen was one of those selections that you started to deviate.

899
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Speaker 2: Jermaine Burton has been one of those selections that you

900
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Speaker 2: start to deviate, and those picks haven't worked out. Now

901
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 2: some of the high character picks haven't worked out either.

902
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Speaker 2: It's not an exact science, but there's been a little

903
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 2: bit of both in recent years and it makes me

904
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 2: wonder if they'll go back towards that type of process

905
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Speaker 2: when drafting some.

906
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 3: It takes a little tinkering and you've got to figure

907
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 3: you've got to figure out the most successful way, because

908
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Speaker 3: it hasn't been what's happening as of late. Joe Danaman

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921
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Speaker 3: join us right now. The problem is, Austin, I just

922
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Speaker 3: don't know if there's enough storylines that we can talk

923
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 3: about today with Joe, So we're gonna have to dig

924
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 3: pretty deep to try to figure out how to get

925
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Speaker 3: a segment out of this with Joe Daniman joining us

926
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Speaker 3: right now.

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Speaker 2: What's up, Joe?

928
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Speaker 16: I thought we were going to talk about elbow infractions

929
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 16: on beer pong elbow infractions.

930
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Speaker 3: That is a false claim. I was clearly three feet

931
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Speaker 3: behind the table. People just don't like greatness, Joe. Your

932
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 3: arms are four feet long. People struggle with greatness at

933
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Speaker 3: different times.

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Speaker 16: You're so tall you can just reach across and just

935
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Speaker 16: drop the ball right into a cup. It's unfair.

936
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

937
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,439
Speaker 3: Well, I was carried by my wife, so I didn't

938
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Speaker 3: even play the best.

939
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Speaker 2: So there's that. Did you catch any of John Cena's

940
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Speaker 2: final Monday Night We're all last night?

941
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Speaker 16: Oh my gosh, it's on tape on record. Haven't gotten

942
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Speaker 16: there yet, so no spoilers. Just yet.

943
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Speaker 2: Uh, do we have any traction?

944
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 3: I know we're going to dive into the Bengals any chance,

945
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Speaker 3: Elder say Next is going to be played at pay

946
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Speaker 3: Course Stadium.

947
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Speaker 16: Boy, That's what I've been working on the last half hour.

948
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Speaker 16: Let me say this. I can say this publicly because

949
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Speaker 16: I have it confirms from two people. I do know

950
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Speaker 16: that workers are being mobilized to be ready for Friday

951
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Speaker 16: night and a high school football game at pay Course Stadium.

952
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Speaker 16: That does not mean it's for sure happening. I know

953
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Speaker 16: there is another venue in the Tri State that's also

954
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Speaker 16: in play, that is trying to get this game at

955
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Speaker 16: their venue. But I think the big winner here is

956
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Speaker 16: State Next Elder and high school football in Cincinnati. That

957
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Speaker 16: we can get a bigger venue for a game that

958
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Speaker 16: deserves to be played at a bigger venue. It's the

959
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Speaker 16: biggest hig school football game of the year here in Cincinnati.

960
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Speaker 16: So the fact that I'm always of, yes, let's play

961
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Speaker 16: it at a high school venue, yet let's make it

962
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Speaker 16: feel exclusive. But if there are that many people who

963
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Speaker 16: want to come see this game played, why would we

964
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Speaker 16: not use the facilities that are here in town to

965
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Speaker 16: get more people in to see.

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Speaker 2: What will be a great game for sure, without a doubt.

967
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Speaker 3: Now, outside of that, it has been a pretty busy

968
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Speaker 3: week around the Cincinnati Bengals with everything that happened in

969
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Speaker 3: the loss of the Pittsburgh Dealer is let's start with

970
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 3: the Jamar Chase incident. Let's start with I think let's

971
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Speaker 3: start with how it's being handled from the organization. We

972
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Speaker 3: weren't able. We see the video, and then we hear

973
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Speaker 3: Jamar Chase's response and then the suspension, and we've really

974
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Speaker 3: yet to hear from Jamar Chase to this point. How

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00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 3: do you view how this has been handled internally from

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00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 3: the Bengals up to this point.

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Speaker 16: It's interesting because Jamar choosing not to speak is his decision.

978
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Speaker 16: And the way Mondays work at pay Course Stadium with

979
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Speaker 16: open locker room, the team comes out of the team

980
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 16: meeting and the entire team flows into the locker room

981
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Speaker 16: at the exact same time. So there was a heavier

982
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Speaker 16: presence of media than usual on Monday afternoon. We were

983
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 16: all waiting around Jamar's locker. You would think he would

984
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Speaker 16: have to stop there, get some personal items and leave.

985
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Speaker 16: He did not. He just walked right to the locker room.

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Speaker 16: Ben Baby from ESPN was the one who kind of

987
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,919
Speaker 16: branched out to kind of go over there and test

988
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Speaker 16: the water so to speak with Jamar to see who

989
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 16: wanted to talk. He asked him and he shook his

990
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Speaker 16: head no. He said, can we take that as an

991
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 16: official no comment? He shook his head yes, and he

992
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 16: was out of the room. So Jamar Chase chose not

993
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 16: to speak. I don't know. I'm okay with him not speaking,

994
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 16: but I also think there was an opportunity there for

995
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 16: him to speak and say what he wanted to say,

996
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 16: if it's an apology or if it's him a misunderstanding

997
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 16: of what happened on Sunday. The hard part for Jamar

998
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 16: in this situation is the video was posted after he

999
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 16: did his postgame interview, So did he think he got

1000
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 16: away with it? One noticed it, and that's why he

1001
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 16: thought he could confidently say he didn't do it. And

1002
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Speaker 16: then the video came out there after, so that that's

1003
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Speaker 16: what put him in a bit of a bind on

1004
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 16: what he said, how it was handled by the organization.

1005
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 16: This is this is how the Bengals do it right,

1006
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 16: that Zach Taylor has to be the voice of the

1007
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 16: organization on this one. That that's part of the job

1008
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 16: description in Cincinnati as Bengals head coaches. You're the voice

1009
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 16: of the organization in good times and in bad And

1010
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Speaker 16: Zach stood by Jamar and he should because I think

1011
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 16: Jamar has firmed that now we've seen Jamar have these

1012
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 16: crashouts that seemed to happen once a year. I mean,

1013
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 16: I think back to last year in Kansas City early

1014
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 16: in the season when he had a moment like this,

1015
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 16: and then he had this one on Sunday in Pittsburgh

1016
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 16: and listen, provoked or not right, I mean, we all

1017
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Speaker 16: understand what Jalen Ramsey's about. You know, if anybody can

1018
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 16: provoke aj Green to do what he did, certainly he's

1019
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 16: he's a master at provoking guys to do things. And

1020
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 16: and and it happened to Jamar Chase on Sunday in Pittsburgh.

1021
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 16: And how it's being handled. This is what they do,

1022
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 16: and Zach Taylor has to answer the questions. He's standing

1023
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 16: by Jamar. It's what he has to do. And I

1024
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,439
Speaker 16: think he should stand by Jamar because I think Jamar

1025
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 16: is about the right stuff. Even though we had that

1026
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 16: moment on Sunday, and yeah, that's just the way the

1027
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 16: Bengals are going to do it. It's going to be

1028
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 16: curious how quickly the appeal plays out for whenever Jamar

1029
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 16: does talk next, because scheduled to speak on Thursday, but

1030
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 16: that likely won't happen this week unless the suspension is

1031
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 16: appealed and won. Otherwise we're not gonna hear from Jamar

1032
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 16: for another week.

1033
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,919
Speaker 3: So that's everything going on away from the field right now.

1034
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,399
Speaker 3: The other issue is what's happening on the field this team,

1035
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 3: with another disappointing loss, things continue to unravel in the

1036
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 3: wrong direction, and now you're looking at the tall task

1037
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 3: of playing the hottest team in football, more than likely

1038
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 3: without your best offensive weapon. At this point, what does

1039
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 3: this mean from just a sheer football standpoint for the

1040
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 3: I mean.

1041
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 16: It's not just your best offensive weapon. You could argue

1042
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 16: that Joe Burrow, Jamar, Chase Trey Hendrickson or this team's

1043
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 16: three best players at worst three of their four best players.

1044
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 16: And now you're playing the team with the best record

1045
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 16: in football without three or your four best players, or

1046
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 16: maybe all three of your best players. It's that's a

1047
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 16: difficult thing. That's the process for this team going forward. Look,

1048
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 16: I feel like the Patriots can be had. I'm not

1049
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 16: sold that they're the best team in the NFL, that

1050
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 16: they've earned their record. They are what they are. Drake

1051
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 16: Mays an awesome player, Mike Brabel is a great coach,

1052
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 16: that they're on the come up. But I do think

1053
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 16: they can be beaten. I just I don't see a

1054
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 16: pass for this team without Trey Hendrickson, with without Jim R. Chase,

1055
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 16: without Joe Burrow to get it done on Sunday. Now,

1056
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 16: with the NFL, we see weird things happen all the

1057
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 16: time in this league. But at the same time, I

1058
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 16: don't see the pass for the Bengals to win on

1059
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 16: Sunday without those three players. Austin, I don't want to

1060
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 16: hijack the conversation. Can you hit the breaking new sounder?

1061
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 2: Oh oh okay, hold on, give me a second and

1062
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 2: we look at this. We now go to the fold

1063
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:18,280
Speaker 2: lines to Joe Danovan from Fox nineteen who has breaking news.

1064
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 16: Joe, a source tell Fox nineteen now that it is

1065
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 16: a done deal State Ax Elder pay Course Stadium on

1066
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 16: Friday night.

1067
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 2: Wow, Wow, that is.

1068
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 16: What a Friday night in downtown Cincinnati. Unbelieve you've see

1069
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 16: Louisville at Heritage Bank Center and then down the street

1070
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 16: you have State X and Elder to be played on

1071
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 16: Friday night. So I'm going to continue this conversation with

1072
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 16: you guys while firing off a tweet. How about this.

1073
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 16: We're going to multitask this.

1074
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 2: This is unbelievable. Take as much time as you.

1075
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 16: Need, tweet as. Let's go ahead and pen the tweet together, guys,

1076
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 16: which is say Door tells Fox nineteen Now.

1077
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:13,760
Speaker 2: Yeah that Now do you put Elder first? Okay? Interesting? Interesting,

1078
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 2: they're the one seed.

1079
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:23,280
Speaker 16: Let's get Older first. That the Elder versus Saint Xavier

1080
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 16: Regional Championship. This is great radio, No, I love it.

1081
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 2: I love it. Turn your notifications on.

1082
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 16: This is breaking news Friday night at pay Core Stadium.

1083
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 3: Incredible. The power of the people in this fine city

1084
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 3: have spoken.

1085
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 16: It's amazing. People get one caveat here this text or

1086
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 16: to this tweet, it would say that public announcement coming soon.

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00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 3: Dang, unbelievable. Good things happened when we talked to Joe

1088
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 3: that game cool. I mean Mason held what seven thousand

1089
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 3: and it sold out immediately?

1090
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 16: Yeah, I don't know. People do be think can can

1091
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 16: get this? I mean what what twenty. Do you do

1092
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 16: we get twenty for SAT Next and Elder Yes, I

1093
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 16: would think so, Yes, easily.

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00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 10: That's good stuff.

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00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 16: Easily stop guy.

1096
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 2: This is fantastic. Thanks thanks for choosing to break that

1097
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 2: news with us, Joe. We appreciate that a lesser person

1098
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 2: would have just hung up the phone. A lesser person

1099
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 2: would have.

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00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,760
Speaker 16: You and I did breaking news together during this show.

1101
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 16: It was when Joe Flacco got traded to the Angle, Yes,

1102
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 16: and we were trying to process that on the air,

1103
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 16: and you think back to that conversation and where the

1104
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 16: Bengals are now, I mean this this it was we

1105
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 16: didn't think, I don't know. On the surface, I was like,

1106
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 16: it's a guy. Joe Flacco doesn't have much less. He's

1107
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 16: been great. I know he came back to Earth on

1108
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 16: Sunday a little bit, and that was always, uh, the

1109
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 16: worry into Tony's last question about the Bengals playing the

1110
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 16: Patriots on Sunday is, Yeah, the defense is the defense,

1111
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 16: but the offense has been pretty elite all season. Now

1112
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,959
Speaker 16: you wonder as Joe flacc will come back to Earth

1113
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 16: a little bit. Now you don't have Jamar Chase. What's

1114
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 16: the past to beating the Patriots. I don't know, other

1115
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 16: than the NFL can get weird.

1116
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 2: Something that I found interesting, Joe is the last two Mondays,

1117
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,919
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor has basically cut off the idea that Trey

1118
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 2: Henderson could play now normally he's pretty coy about these

1119
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 2: injuries and said, we'll see how it happens. We'll see this,

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Speaker 2: We'll see He's immediately said, Trey has been doubtful. Uh,

1121
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 2: both this last press conference yesterday and the Monday before,

1122
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 2: is there any indication about a timetable for Trey Hendrickson

1123
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 2: or what he's going through or if he's going to

1124
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 2: be able to play again this year?

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00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 16: None whatsoever. Yeah, the only information we have is the

1126
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 16: exact information that you've heard from. And I've noticed the

1127
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 16: same thing. And you know, I don't like to say

1128
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 16: these things out loud on public, but I think you

1129
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 16: have to wonder is Trey Hendrickson going to play any

1130
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 16: more meaningful snaps in Cincinnati. I just don't know. Yeah,

1131
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 16: but the only information we've had is what's been given

1132
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 16: from Zach Taylor, and it's been very quick. Doubtful, doubtful, doubtful.

1133
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 16: It's weird that he's always landed on doubtful and never

1134
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 16: an out, but it kind of feels like doubtful with

1135
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 16: an expectation that, oh yeah, he's out, not going to play.

1136
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 16: So I think it has to be in the back

1137
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 16: of everyone's minds that the timetable of Trey Hendrickson could

1138
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 16: include him not playing the rest of the season. I

1139
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 16: think I would bet against that. But at this point,

1140
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 16: the only information we have is that he continues to

1141
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 16: say doubtful on a weekly basis as.

1142
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 3: It relates to who will be available on Sunday against

1143
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 3: the Patriots. If Jamar Chase and the suspension are upheld,

1144
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 3: Do we see Jermaine Burden active for this game?

1145
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 16: I have no idea. That is a curveball. I don't know.

1146
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 16: It feels like he's been weirdly phased out the last

1147
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 16: couple of weeks with whatever this this illness is. He's around.

1148
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 16: We saw him yesterday. Oddly he was the last one

1149
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 16: who was still inside the locker room. Certainly there there's

1150
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 16: a space and an opportunity for him. I would think

1151
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 16: Mitchell Tinsley is the likely choice to get a lot

1152
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 16: of snaps with with Jamar Chase if he's not going

1153
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 16: to play on Sunday, but being active, I mean, man,

1154
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 16: you would think you would think he would have a

1155
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 16: chance to be active. But the way he's been treated

1156
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 16: here the last couple of weeks, with with illnesses and

1157
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 16: just not not being involved, it kind of feels like

1158
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 16: he's almost been put in this this weird category of

1159
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 16: just out of sight, out of mind, and Kenny pop

1160
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 16: up up here in one week in a handful of

1161
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 16: practices and earn his way to an activation on Sunday. Certainly,

1162
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 16: the past is there, but it feels like a long

1163
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 16: shot to me for Jermaine Jermaine Burton to do anything

1164
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 16: that would be of any kind of a difference making

1165
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 16: role on Sunday against the Patriots.

1166
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 3: The questions will remain with Joe Burrow. And you talked

1167
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 3: about Trey Hendrickson and will he play meaningful snaps. It's

1168
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 3: one thing to talk about Joe Burrow in the sense

1169
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 3: when everything was still alive, right going into the Pittsburgh game.

1170
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 3: Beat Pittsburgh and let's reconvene, let's see what happens. Losing

1171
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 3: the game to Pittsburgh, being a big underdog to New England.

1172
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 3: Does that change how you view how Joe Burrow would

1173
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 3: be handled.

1174
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 16: No, it doesn't seem how I view it. But my

1175
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 16: view is completely different from what I'm feeling from the stadium,

1176
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 16: because my view is if the Bengals are not in

1177
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 16: this and don't have a chance to go to the playoffs,

1178
00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 16: and it feels like that for all intents and purpose,

1179
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 16: has died Sunday in Pittsburgh, that he should not play

1180
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 16: because the Bengals are going to enter the offseason with

1181
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 16: so many questions on so many different levels, and that

1182
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 16: extends all the way up to the front office, the

1183
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 16: coaching staff, personnel. How to rebuild this defense, how to

1184
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 16: get this team competitive in twenty twenty six? Do they

1185
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 16: need to hit a reset button? The last thing you

1186
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 16: need is one more giant question on the top of

1187
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 16: all of those mountains of questions of is our quarterback

1188
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 16: going to be ready? Is he going to have to

1189
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 16: be coming back from another injury. Now, what I'm feeling

1190
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 16: from Joe talking and talking to people at the stadium

1191
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 16: is that Joe wants to play football because Joe likes

1192
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 16: to play football, and Joe is paid to play football.

1193
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 16: And I get that, and I think that's most likely

1194
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,919
Speaker 16: what is going to happen. If I had to bet

1195
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 16: it right now that no matter what the record is,

1196
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 16: that Joe Burrow is going to push to play and

1197
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 16: likely will win his push and get on the field

1198
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 16: at some point this season. But does somebody in the

1199
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 16: organization have to protect him from himself? Does somebody else

1200
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 16: have to make that decision? Are we going to get

1201
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 16: another Mike Brown on the golf cart with Joe Burrow

1202
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 16: out of practice and him telling him what's going to

1203
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 16: happen that week? But what happened that week was Joe

1204
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 16: ended up playing on that Sunday night. So it kind

1205
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 16: of feels like, and I don't mean this, I mean

1206
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 16: it somewhat tongue in cheek, is that it feels like,

1207
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 16: sometimes Joe Burrow makes a lot of decisions about himself

1208
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 16: and maybe a lot of decisions that affect other people

1209
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 16: in the organization, and maybe he's earned that. But if

1210
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 16: it were me, I would not play him because I

1211
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 16: would not want to risk adding another giant question mark

1212
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 16: to what is already going to be an offseason full

1213
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 16: of them. But if Joe Burrow is going to push

1214
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 16: to play, and he gets the green light from the

1215
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 16: medical staff that he ready to go, I think you're

1216
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 16: going to see him at some point this season.

1217
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 3: Outside of everything going on with the Bengals, it's a

1218
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:13,439
Speaker 3: huge obviously local sports weekend. We've outlined Friday Night now

1219
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 3: with Elder sat Ex at pay Course Stadium. You see

1220
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 3: in Louisville at Heritage Bank, Saturday, big noon kickoff comes

1221
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 3: to town. You see plays host to BYU for nip

1222
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 3: at Night. This game has obviously lost a little bit

1223
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 3: of the build up because you're now not in control

1224
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 3: of your own destiny if you're the Cincinnati Bearcats. But

1225
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 3: how important is this game, Joe? For a team in

1226
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 3: Scott Saderfield who last year got to five and two

1227
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 3: and lost their last five. They've now reached this great moment.

1228
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 3: They've lost their last two. Here comes another good opponent.

1229
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 3: How important is Saturday for Scott Saderfield and the Bearcats.

1230
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 16: Well, I think you made the great point there, and

1231
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 16: you've made that several times here in the last couple

1232
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 16: of weeks. Is that you see can't repeat what they

1233
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 16: did last season and the fade out at the end

1234
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 16: of the season. When you get spot lit like this,

1235
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 16: you've got to perform, and they're gonna be spot lit

1236
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 16: on Saturday night and on Saturday Morning afternoon with Big

1237
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 16: Noon being there and then them getting the eight o'clock

1238
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 16: game on Fox. When your spotlight light spotlt like this,

1239
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 16: and you're right, you know that the past isn't as

1240
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 16: clear as it was in the Big twelve Championship. That

1241
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 16: shouldn't matter Saturday night. Saturday Night should be about a

1242
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 16: chance for you see football to be on a stage

1243
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 16: and perform. You know, Scott Saturdayfield's done enough this year

1244
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 16: to quiet a lot of people and perhaps even save

1245
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 16: his job. And I think he's done a very good

1246
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,919
Speaker 16: job this year, but there are still questions we all

1247
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 16: have about UC football going into this game on Saturday Night,

1248
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 16: And to me, the biggest spotlight is on the quarterback.

1249
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 16: And I love everything that Brendan Swartzby is about. I

1250
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 16: love the way he handles himself. He's a tough kid.

1251
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 16: He's had a great season, but in some of the

1252
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 16: biggest games of the year, he hasn't played his best football.

1253
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 16: So he's the one I'm watching the most. On a

1254
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 16: stage like Saturday Night, with a lot of people in

1255
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 16: the country watching him, maybe for the first time it

1256
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 16: can he perform like the Brendan Soresby that that can

1257
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 16: make you see. A Top twenty five is team that

1258
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 16: can keep you see alive in a Big twelve race,

1259
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 16: that can get you see to a good bowl game,

1260
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 16: or who knows, get a shot at the Big twelve

1261
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 16: championship and go to the playoffs. But when you get

1262
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 16: a moment like this in a stage, you gotta perform.

1263
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 16: And the person I want to see perform the best

1264
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 16: and the most is the quarterback because we know what

1265
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 16: he's capable of. Yes in the game and some of

1266
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 16: the biggest games of the year, he just hasn't delivered.

1267
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 16: And he's got a shot here right that maybe he's

1268
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 16: last shot against BYU to really deliver in this game

1269
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 16: in front of a national audience.

1270
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 2: He's the one I'm watching obviously.

1271
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 3: That's Saturday Night. Sunday is Bengals Patriots. Sunday night, MESSI

1272
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 3: comes into town. What all do you guys have going

1273
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 3: on at Fox nineteen coming up?

1274
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 16: I mean, you think about Saturday, Big News starts at ten,

1275
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 16: and then you have the Ohio State game on at

1276
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:12,919
Speaker 16: nude and then you had the UC game on at eight.

1277
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 16: I mean, it's a massive day for football watching on Fox.

1278
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 16: So we're excited to have that and then Sunday, Yeah,

1279
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 16: we'll be doing it both. We'll be at pay Court Stadium,

1280
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 16: then we'll finish up with postgame there and head straight

1281
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 16: over to Messi versus FC Cincinnati. And that's such an

1282
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 16: awesome event in such a huge game, And it's been

1283
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:33,919
Speaker 16: one of these things that's been kind of under talked

1284
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 16: about is how well FC Cincinnati has done against Messi

1285
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 16: since he's come to Major League Soccer. But now now

1286
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 16: you're going to get the best Messi shot Right now,

1287
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 16: you're going to get him in an Eastern Conference semi

1288
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 16: final with its winner go home two games away. Then

1289
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 16: if you win that for winning the MLS Cup, that

1290
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 16: to me is going to be theater. It's going to

1291
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 16: be cinema to see what Messi does when the state

1292
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 16: or this high coming to Cincinnati and TQL Stadium. I

1293
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 16: can't wait. Sunday is going to be an absolute banger.

1294
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 16: But it's a great weekend starting Friday night and then

1295
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 16: continues all the way through Sunday.

1296
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 3: What was it yesterday someone asked us to ask Joe

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Speaker 3: Austin about something about Julius's.

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Speaker 2: Chicken with Chicken sandwich that we were told to ask

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Speaker 2: you about a Julia or Julia.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, Julius aid, Indian Hill baby, why go to Chick

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Speaker 16: fil a when you can have Indian Hills chicken all day? Wow?

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Speaker 10: Is huge?

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Speaker 21: Man.

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Speaker 16: That guy was spitting bars at the grill on Friday night. Yes,

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01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 16: it was awesome because you go to a high school game, right,

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01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 16: you get your burgers, your dogs. Indian Hill man, they

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Speaker 16: do it right.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 16: They were doing some grilled chicken. He's a big piece

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Speaker 16: of the chicken.

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Speaker 11: Baby.

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Speaker 16: I was, I was loving it man. Julius was dropping

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Speaker 16: bars at the grill.

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Speaker 3: Was awesome, awesome. You're the best, Joe Man, Thank you

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Speaker 3: so much. Appreciate the breaking news. We'll talk again next week.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Joe yea fifteen thirty Cincinnati sports station. Your talkbacks

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Speaker 3: are next.

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Speaker 22: Backs.

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Speaker 23: Press the microphone and record your message or Austin in tone,

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Speaker 23: please keep it clean and don't be mean and a.

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Speaker 13: Sprinkle sprinkle, drip drifts.

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Speaker 2: It's that time for talkbacks.

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Speaker 23: It's our favorite tarter Sincy three sixty. So Austin buddy,

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Speaker 23: play those talkbacks on your screen and please try out

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Speaker 23: to sabotages.

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Speaker 2: Did you like that updated ditty there? I like that

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Speaker 2: our guy, former President Reagan, I don't know if he

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01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 2: wants his real name out there, so I'm just gonna

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Speaker 2: keep calling him former President Reagan.

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Speaker 16: Uh.

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Speaker 2: He sent that along this morning says he's working on

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Speaker 2: a Christmas one as well, So I mean, we basically

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01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 2: should hire our guy at this point. I love it

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01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 2: with the productions. You know, about a week and a

1335
01:07:56,120 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 2: half ago, I submitted a request for updated for What's Coming.

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01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 2: I did it for Read and React, for quick hits,

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Speaker 2: for buy or Sell, for Call the Day.

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Speaker 16: All that.

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Speaker 2: Bob producer, Well I just gave out his name. Bob

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01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 2: produces him better than we faster than we do.

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Speaker 3: How about this? I had to say this as well.

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Speaker 3: This weekend in stores only, While Supplies Last, SINSI Shirts

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Speaker 3: has a new shirt design.

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Speaker 2: This is great, bless this mess.

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Speaker 3: Thanksgiving twenty twenty five. It's got a picture of a

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Speaker 3: Bengal tiger eating what is that?

1347
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Speaker 2: A chicken?

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Speaker 15: Leg?

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Speaker 3: Turn duncan turn ducking. Customers going to get a free

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Speaker 3: Turkey drop T shirt as well with the fifty dollars

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Speaker 3: purchase check it out at cintishirts dot com. But you

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Speaker 3: got to go in store to get the shirt. While

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Speaker 3: Supplies Last a WKRP Turkey tests. Oh boy, that's great,

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Speaker 3: SINSI shirts.

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Speaker 2: You want to start playing some of the talkback shirt today,

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Speaker 2: let's do it.

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Speaker 24: James Addison Bloomington school record eleven and oh well, whoop

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01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 24: Purdue waiting for the Buckeyes and the Big Ten championship

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Speaker 24: at the Dome in Indy.

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Speaker 2: Wha, all right, too far, Jeff got the Hoosiers involved. Now,

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01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,879
Speaker 2: speaking of Hoosiers, did you see that the Pittsburgh Pirates

1362
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:29,759
Speaker 2: are allegedly in on Kyle Schwarber. Now, Josh Naylor signed

1363
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 2: a big contract with the Seattle Mariners yesterday. Apparently the

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01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 2: Pirates offered him eighty million dollars. Oh are they trying

1365
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 2: to make a splash maybe and fit this into the

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01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 2: Paul Skeins window. They should. Could you imagine the reaction

1367
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Speaker 2: from Reds fans? No, if Kyle Schwarber signs with the

1368
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Pirates, No, that would be a rough day. You

1369
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:57,799
Speaker 2: were talking about a meltdown.

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Speaker 25: It's the Lord, you know, and the tailor press conferences.

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01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:06,759
Speaker 25: I wish there were ten Kelsey Conways asking questions. She's

1372
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 25: bold and unique and she's always asked the tough questions.

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01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 25: I wish the rest of the reporters could be like that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Well, at the Kelsey Power rankings are

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Speaker 2: coming out at the.

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Speaker 6: Kelsey, Tony and Audie.

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Speaker 26: It's Chad ben Dale's good friend Marvin Freeman. Mor just

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01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 26: wanted to say, love your show. Unfortunately, I sense brave

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01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 26: danger for our Bearcats this Saturday versus b Yu. I'm

1380
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 26: on the fire sadderfield train myself. Chugg chugger chew chew chew.

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Speaker 27: Hello, this is former President Ronald Regan. Well, just once,

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01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 27: I would like to hear Zach Taylor speak like a

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01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 27: drill sergeant instead of giving us the fluff talk of

1384
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 27: a politician. I don't want to hear that he trusts

1385
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 27: his guys or the process when it's obvious to everyone

1386
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 27: else that it's not working. He may as well say,

1387
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 27: are you're not a crook? Or I didn't inhale. That's

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01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:15,759
Speaker 27: what his press conferences have become.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, man boy, hey.

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Speaker 4: I approached it from a former baggage handler. Do not

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01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 4: put your name and home address on your bag tag

1392
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 4: when you go on your big fancy vacation to Hawaii.

1393
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:38,799
Speaker 4: Anybody that touches that bag and they see the tag

1394
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 4: with Honolulu on it knows you ain't home tonight and

1395
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:45,679
Speaker 4: they can come rob your blind back.

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01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:46,600
Speaker 10: You.

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Speaker 2: What do you put on your bag tag? Just my name?

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01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 2: That's it. That's all. No way to contact you. No, well,

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01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 2: that doesn't make a lot.

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Speaker 3: Also, don't I mean we really don't fly much outside

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01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 3: of flying with the team. My bag tag and I

1402
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 3: say that you write on the right on the plane

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01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 3: my first and last name. Okay, that's Austin Elmore, my

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01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 3: phone number five to one three no, and my apt

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01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 3: at Audiomo. Those are my three things. I also have

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01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 3: an air tag.

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01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 2: Hidden in it on the same next game from a

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Speaker 2: distance away.

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Speaker 11: Isn't it supposed to.

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01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 2: Rain all day long on Friday?

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01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 17: And the Bengals have a home game on Sunday?

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01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:26,640
Speaker 2: Am I missing something here? Oh? No, what's wrong with that?

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01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 2: The field is going to be messed up. It's turf,

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Speaker 2: I know.

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01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 28: Oh hey, guys, armchair prosecution of this assertion that Mike

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01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 28: Brown wants to win. Since nineteen ninety one, Mike has

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01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 28: only had eleven winning seasons in thirty four years. He

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01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:40,879
Speaker 28: has a five and eleven average over.

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01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 2: Those other twenty three years.

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Speaker 28: For comparison, the Steelers in the same timeframe have only

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Speaker 28: had four losing seasons and compiled twenty six winning seasons.

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01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 28: Now the Terrible Tree are systematically destroying the Burrow era.

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01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 28: Losing is Mike Brown's calling card. He prefers a lukewarm

1424
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 28: bowl of oat me on a side of dry toast

1425
01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 28: to winning. There is zero defense on the field and

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01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 28: zero defense for him.

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Speaker 2: I keep trying to tell people the truth. I don't

1428
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 2: know if they're listening. Mike Brown wants to win, but

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01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 2: he wants to win his way and his processes, I

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01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 2: believe are flawed. That's the issue. It's not that he's

1431
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 2: just I don't think Mike Brown wakes up in the

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01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 2: morning and says, how can we go nine to eight

1433
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 2: and miss the playoffs? No? I don't believe that.

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01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 28: Hey, guys, armchair prosecution of this search.

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01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 2: I just played that.

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Speaker 16: Sorry, Okay.

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01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 2: So obviously Zach Taylor cance it up there and speak

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01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 2: his mind. His job's on the line.

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01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 29: Just like you guys can sit up there and say

1440
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:37,799
Speaker 29: one hundred percent of what you want to say because

1441
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 29: you can get fired. I get it, your livelihood's on

1442
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 29: the line. But answer me this. Why isn't anyone and

1443
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 29: this includes like podcasters that can say whatever the heck

1444
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 29: they want. Why doesn't anyone reach out to Marvin Lewis

1445
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:50,719
Speaker 29: gotten some answers from him? Is the guy that buttoned

1446
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 29: up that he won't say anything about the Bengals. He

1447
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 29: was there when Duke Copen was there. He knows how

1448
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 29: the sausage is made.

1449
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:58,679
Speaker 30: Why does anybody reach out to him to get these answers?

1450
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:02,879
Speaker 2: How does it benefit Marvin Lewis to air out the laundry?

1451
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 2: Tell all for Marvin? How does that benefit him? I

1452
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 2: don't think it does. He's also still really good friends

1453
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 2: with Mike Brown. We'd also love to have him on

1454
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 2: the show. Yeah, Marvin's welcome anytime. I know he does

1455
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 2: games now national radio. You know he did a Bengals game,

1456
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:18,719
Speaker 2: the Bears game. Yeah, why don't we have Mond? Where

1457
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 2: were they at? They were on the road. Where was that?

1458
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 2: Let's have him on the preview a game, the Packers game.

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01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 2: Marvin was there, gave Mike Brown a big hug. I'll

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01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 2: reach out.

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Speaker 21: I have a start mentioning cut for Dave fort and No,

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01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 21: he's visit the Cincinnati and the pizza reas.

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01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 2: Okay, I have.

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01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:39,559
Speaker 16: Ramon dos. Which one would you go with?

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01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 2: I would go Donados. He was gonna say, Tony has

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01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 2: to go with Donado's. I would do any of them

1467
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 2: because I don't have a pizza endorsement. I always go Donados.

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01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:51,839
Speaker 2: I want a pizza endorsement. I will speak on behalf

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01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 2: of any pizza player of Cincinnati. I think, get you anything. Well,

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01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:57,719
Speaker 2: I could be proven wrong.

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01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 15: The person says anything about Zach Taylor's family, You'll point

1472
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 15: him out, We'll get him out of here.

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01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:08,480
Speaker 4: You don't live in Cleveland, You'll live in Cincinnati.

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01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 2: Gosh, we could use some sandwish these days, Tony, haughty, Rachel.

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01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 21: Please, just a question of hypothetical. Really, Okay, let's say

1476
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 21: Zach Taylor goes. I personally don't believe he'd be fired

1477
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 21: because the Brown's put up with mediocrity. But let's say

1478
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 21: he would get fired. Do you think there's a coach

1479
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 21: out there that's worth their weight that would really want

1480
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 21: this job. Don't you think most good coaches would want

1481
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 21: to avoid having to work with the Brown family.

1482
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, we outlined this a little bit earlier. I do

1483
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 2: think the idea of the cap space, the quarterback, and

1484
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 2: a patient ownership group are enough to get some guys

1485
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 2: to want to come here.

1486
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 30: One common strait that great head coaches seem to have

1487
01:15:56,520 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 30: is that they hold their best players to a standard

1488
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 30: that's a little bit higher than everybody else. So the

1489
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 30: accountability I think are the best of the best than

1490
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:13,720
Speaker 30: it is for everybody else. And when you look at

1491
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 30: this team, the fact that Joe Burrow decides whether or

1492
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 30: not he's going to go under center kind of sums

1493
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 30: that part of it.

1494
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:25,640
Speaker 2: I think it's a little more delicate than that. I

1495
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 2: hope that we get because this has been talked about

1496
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:32,600
Speaker 2: seemingly endlessly, the under center thing. The Bengals did a

1497
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 2: lot more of it in the first two games with

1498
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow. I hope that there are questions asked of

1499
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:40,679
Speaker 2: Joe the next time he meets with the media about

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01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 2: that and so that we could get some clarification on it. Yeah.

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01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 2: I just don't know how much he'll be able to

1502
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 2: do with the with the.

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01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 12: Tone, man, turn that seat back up, hot, it's time

1504
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:51,640
Speaker 12: to flame him.

1505
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 15: Up.

1506
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 16: Body.

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01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 12: I'm irritated not featuring Joe Roy and his offense. I

1508
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 12: don't understand this. We don't win big games on national TV.

1509
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:05,720
Speaker 12: I mean, come on, man, get real marshmallowsoft defense for

1510
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 12: the Bengals and Barracats FC Cincinnati. You better say us

1511
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 12: this weekend, send the goat home packing and you see

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01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 12: basketball don't get exposed.

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01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 2: But I think it's going to happen.

1514
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 3: Oh Okay, there's not a lot of hope for UC

1515
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 3: hoops on Friday that I've heard.

1516
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 31: Hey, guys, it is Gary from del High. Serious question

1517
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 31: today for we really want a good start, bench cut

1518
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 31: out of this one. But which organization is most serious

1519
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 31: about winning a champions Cincinnati Reds, Cincinnati Bengals or the

1520
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 31: Washington Generals. And for those of you who don't know,

1521
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 31: the Washington Generals are the team that gets pounded on

1522
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:43,639
Speaker 31: by the hard and globe trotters.

1523
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 3: I would still thanks, I will listen. I would start

1524
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 3: the Bengals. Yes, bench the Reds and cut the Generals.

1525
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:52,919
Speaker 2: I agree.

1526
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 32: For the sake about our own sanity. Let us not

1527
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 32: compare Bill Pollian.

1528
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 2: To Duke and Tobin. Okay, I agree with that.

1529
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 32: And to that point, when does Zach say, Hey, Duke,

1530
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 32: I'm fielding questions with which everyone knows I don't have

1531
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 32: the answer to.

1532
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:21,639
Speaker 2: Would you like to be a capable, you.

1533
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:24,759
Speaker 32: Know, member of the team and field the question? Seeing

1534
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 32: as you do have the answers, and they were your decisions.

1535
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 32: I mean, kind of looking out for Zach in that way,

1536
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 32: if he did, I don't know.

1537
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 2: I do wonder if that's kind of part of the

1538
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 2: trade off. You get a longer leash or more with

1539
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 2: you got to deal with all the crap.

1540
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 33: Well, let me tell you something mean, take it from

1541
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 33: your old pail dandy savage man doesn't want you or

1542
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 33: anybody in the locker room, but in a single dime

1543
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 33: on those Bengals to win from here on out that decent.

1544
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 33: It's this terrible change. I haven't seen anybody. It's easy

1545
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 33: to score on since lived in the night.

1546
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 2: Oh no, don't you do it.

1547
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 33: If you do it, gonna lose your money faster than

1548
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:11,719
Speaker 33: you can snip into a slenting gym.

1549
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's pretty good. That's pretty good.

1550
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 34: Spinning on a player is never acceptable under any circumstance.

1551
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 34: But in a hypothetical situation, if somebody was gonna spit

1552
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 34: on somebody in an athletic event, could you pick a

1553
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 34: better candidate than Jalen Ramsey in the Pittsburgh Steelers uniform.

1554
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 34: I mean, like I said, disavow, I disavow. Yeah, But

1555
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 34: come on, it's the Steelers in Jalen Ramsey, so.

1556
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:45,800
Speaker 35: Picked a good one.

1557
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 2: At least, what would happen? Tone if balling ain't easy,

1558
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 2: spit on you at the Memorial Day three on three,

1559
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 2: well hands being thrown.

1560
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:57,680
Speaker 3: There would have Usually something like that happens because a

1561
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 3: rivalry has ensued because one side has won a game,

1562
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 3: right right, Like a spit from Ballin would just be

1563
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 3: out of anger because he's yet to win. It'd just

1564
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 3: be like rain, Yeah, I'd be like, all right cool.

1565
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:11,520
Speaker 3: By the way, Mike Tomlin was asked about this today.

1566
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:14,640
Speaker 11: You know, I'd have no message. If someone spits in

1567
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 11: your face, do what comes natural?

1568
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 2: Shut up? Tomblotoo man. I kind of respect that answer.

1569
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 2: He's a real one for it.

1570
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 22: Yeah, this is Dakota Cole Ringe Township's upcoda classic Natty

1571
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 22: put the rich Catholic Boys on the main stage in

1572
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:35,840
Speaker 22: the pro stadium. You ain't doing that for col Rain,

1573
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:39,720
Speaker 22: You ain't doing that for Wynn Woods. Doing for the

1574
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 22: rich Catholic Boys and Jama Chase. He don't need to

1575
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:46,799
Speaker 22: speak to the media. That's what Zach's for. Zach answers

1576
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 22: all and every question that anyone has from plumbing to

1577
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 22: play a personnel.

1578
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 2: That's what he does. Uh, we're in a good place today.

1579
01:20:58,880 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 2: Jeff from the Peers.

1580
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:02,720
Speaker 36: You know, keeping in mind that I am a Bobcat.

1581
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:07,639
Speaker 36: I would hate to think that this expanded playoff. Uh

1582
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:10,599
Speaker 36: you know where you see, you know, has have a shot,

1583
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 36: had a shot, would and not be quite there would

1584
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 36: make this game unimportant?

1585
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 2: What just make me sad? What did he just say?

1586
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:25,600
Speaker 2: I don't know. Let's try it again, Let's see if

1587
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:27,800
Speaker 2: we can figure it out. I'm struggling to follow this one.

1588
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 2: Jeff from the piers.

1589
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:32,720
Speaker 36: You know, keeping in mind that I am a Bobcat.

1590
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 36: I would hate to think that this expanded playoff. Uh

1591
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,799
Speaker 36: you know where you see, you know has have a shot?

1592
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 36: I had a shot, would and not be quite there

1593
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:49,559
Speaker 36: would make this game unimportant?

1594
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 11: What just make me sad?

1595
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 2: I'm still don't I'm not getting so he's saying that

1596
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 2: he I think he's saying it makes him sad that

1597
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 2: the b YU game no longer has playoff significance. Okay,

1598
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:03,759
Speaker 2: I think that's what he's saying.

1599
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:07,720
Speaker 15: Okay, Hey guys, Marcus from the Grove, Marcus, when it

1600
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 15: comes to the National Baseball Hall of fame list. I

1601
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 15: think the only newcomer that's on the ballad should be

1602
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:20,960
Speaker 15: coll Hanmiles, as well as Carlos, Beltron, Mark Burley, Omar

1603
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 15: Vesquel and King Felix.

1604
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you Marcus. Hey guys, this is Steve Markle.

1605
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 27: Our Bengals suck, our Bearcat suck and our red suck.

1606
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 2: Golass seat.

1607
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:36,680
Speaker 34: I didn't know.

1608
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 2: I didn't know Erkle was au since he fan, Thanks sir,

1609
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 2: I don't know he's a since fan.

1610
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:50,280
Speaker 37: Tony Austin, this is Captain James T. Kirk of the

1611
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 37: story Shooting Enterprise. I predict a Bengals win on Sunday

1612
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 37: will do nothing to turn around the season, but at

1613
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 37: least we won't look as bad as the Brown Okay

1614
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:14,040
Speaker 37: is that?

1615
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 2: Don't tell me that? Don't I know that? Uh what

1616
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 2: that's from? I mean he literally told you they said

1617
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:26,400
Speaker 2: the Starship Enterprise. What's the star Trek? Star Trek? Yes,

1618
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 2: I know the name. I couldn't I couldn't think of it.

1619
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:32,600
Speaker 30: Uh huh, Tony, if balling ain't easy, you would that

1620
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 30: be a spitball.

1621
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 2: Thoughts. Sure it's a good one, Yeah, Tony, it will

1622
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 2: be like man you ought to be used to it.

1623
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 2: I'm always raining threes in your guys face. You guys

1624
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:46,479
Speaker 2: just stacked your team.

1625
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 11: Kevin Johnson, come on.

1626
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:52,679
Speaker 2: Man, ballin. You need to you need to be doing

1627
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:53,759
Speaker 2: some working. Free agency.

1628
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 3: He does every year he's got a big player coming in.

1629
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 3: They just don't show up on Saturday.

1630
01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:00,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's least, at least he talks about it. He's

1631
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 2: no Duke Tobin. He doesn't run from his No, he's

1632
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 2: all mistakes. He's out there, he is all right. That

1633
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 2: was our last night. Good deal. But I saw a

1634
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 2: tweet from GCL Sports saying, thank you, Peycorp. Let's go,

1635
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 2: let's go. What about the other games? Though? Heard it

1636
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:20,639
Speaker 2: here first, heard it here first. That's what we do, yep,

1637
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:22,760
Speaker 2: bing bong.

1638
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 3: Football in the Natti to finish up our number two.

1639
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 2: Pirates. Oh my god, we'll lose my marbles. Can you imagine?

1640
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:36,240
Speaker 2: Would that be a wake up call? Marinate on that

1641
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 2: for a second. We'll be back. What's she doing?

1642
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:42,559
Speaker 3: Let's call her three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1643
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1649
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1650
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1651
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1652
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1661
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Speaker 3: One thing we didn't talk about Austin, as it relates

1662
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 3: to Jamar Chase, the suspension appeal. I got to give

1663
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:54,680
Speaker 3: it to him. I appreciate the effort. I appreciate the

1664
01:25:54,720 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 3: effort of essentially saying, listen, if I were to on someone, yeah,

1665
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:02,559
Speaker 3: I'd spit on his face.

1666
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 2: I can't help but laugh. It is right, I can't

1667
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 2: help but laugh like.

1668
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:11,839
Speaker 3: That was a legitimate report from I believe Ian Rappaport

1669
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:15,600
Speaker 3: yesterday that the appeal is gonna be based around the

1670
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 3: fact that if he were to spit intentionally on someone,

1671
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 3: he'd do it to his face.

1672
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:21,760
Speaker 2: I almost think there's like an angle, like they're trying

1673
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 2: to take the side that the just the angle. The

1674
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:30,759
Speaker 2: angle makes it look like he's spitting on Jalen Ramsey,

1675
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 2: but he's not. Actually. I think that's the other side

1676
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:36,000
Speaker 2: of it. And I have about a minute of audio

1677
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:40,680
Speaker 2: here from Mike Florio, and Florio says this is the

1678
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 2: argument that Jamar Chase should make in his appeal.

1679
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 38: Bengals receiver Jamar Chase has been suspended one game without

1680
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:49,759
Speaker 38: pay for spitting on Steelers' safety Jalen Ramsey.

1681
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 2: So what will Chase his argument be on appeal. He

1682
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 2: clearly won't say he didn't do it. He tried that

1683
01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 2: one the video shows.

1684
01:26:56,960 --> 01:27:00,080
Speaker 38: Otherwise, he could make the argument that the NFL's lost

1685
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 38: anding precedent is not to suspend a player for spitting,

1686
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 38: but to find him and for years that's what the

1687
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 38: punishment was. It changed with Jalen carter back in Week

1688
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 38: one when the Eagles defensive tackle spit on Cowboys quarterback

1689
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 38: Dak Prescott. But you could make the argument he wasn't

1690
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 38: really suspended. He was ejected and it was fine the

1691
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:22,559
Speaker 38: amount of a game check. And they said it was

1692
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 38: basically a suspension because he missed all of the game

1693
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 38: because he spit on Dak Prescott before the first offensive

1694
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 38: play from scrimmage, he still wasn't suspended. That may be

1695
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 38: the best argument, That may be the only argument that

1696
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:38,200
Speaker 38: Chase can make. There's never been a suspension, a true

1697
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:42,799
Speaker 38: suspension for spitting. The punishment has always been a fine.

1698
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 38: I don't think that that will be successful, but it

1699
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:49,759
Speaker 38: is an argument that Jamar Chase can make to Jordan Nelson,

1700
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:52,600
Speaker 38: the hearing officer, and we'll see whether or not he

1701
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:55,680
Speaker 38: has any shot at playing this weekend against the Patriots.

1702
01:27:55,800 --> 01:28:01,959
Speaker 3: Okay, thought on that that's a makes sense. Yeah, yeah,

1703
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:04,920
Speaker 3: I think he should go with that. Other than the

1704
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 3: if I wanted to spit on him, I'd have done

1705
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 3: it to his face.

1706
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 2: Right, and you know, I know he doesn't want.

1707
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:13,600
Speaker 3: There are people that are like wet talkers. That was

1708
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:16,439
Speaker 3: a loogie. It was a lugie.

1709
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 11: Now.

1710
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:20,759
Speaker 2: The other thing that's interesting is you heard Mike Florio

1711
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:25,719
Speaker 2: mention Jordie Nelson as the hearing officer. It was between

1712
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 2: like Jordi Nelson, Derek Brooks or Ramone Foster. Do you

1713
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:34,640
Speaker 2: remember Ramone Foster the name I do.

1714
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 11: Yes.

1715
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 2: Ramone Foster used to be an offensive lineman for the

1716
01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:43,560
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers. Oh that ain't who you want hearing it.

1717
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:49,120
Speaker 2: And now he's one big hearing officers. And I went

1718
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:52,080
Speaker 2: to look him up because I know that I didn't

1719
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:54,200
Speaker 2: like him in the past. Not the big Swagu, the

1720
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 2: big regul, the big ragu. And Ramone Foster has me

1721
01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:02,280
Speaker 2: blocked on Twitter? What which I probably said something mean

1722
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:04,800
Speaker 2: to him in a Bengals Steelers game when I was

1723
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 2: like fifteen, would be my guess, wow, you kid though,

1724
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 2: Yeah I was. I mean I was coming at you

1725
01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 2: as a kid. I don't think he said anything to me.

1726
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 2: I think it was just I probably said something to

1727
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:24,479
Speaker 2: him that was enough. Yeah, that was enough to have it. Yeah. Oh,

1728
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:28,320
Speaker 2: never tell you the story about how I got blocked

1729
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:33,120
Speaker 2: by Lance McAllister. No, I had said something that I

1730
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:36,759
Speaker 2: really was fifteen years old. And it was a twenty

1731
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:40,439
Speaker 2: ten season where the Reds were making this push for

1732
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:42,880
Speaker 2: the playoffs, right, They're trying to win the National League Central.

1733
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:45,599
Speaker 2: And I would listen to Sports Talk every night and

1734
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 2: it felt like all Lance talked about to the fifteen

1735
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:51,040
Speaker 2: year old me was what the Cardinals were doing in

1736
01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 2: this race for the NL Central. And I said something

1737
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:56,839
Speaker 2: along the lines of no one cares about the Cardinals?

1738
01:29:56,840 --> 01:30:00,600
Speaker 2: Can you talk about the rets? Ooh? And Lance? That

1739
01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:03,679
Speaker 2: was worthy of a block? And I think I said,

1740
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:05,880
Speaker 2: no one gives a bleep, if you know what I mean,

1741
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:10,840
Speaker 2: I know, dude. And so fast forward years later, I'm

1742
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:14,880
Speaker 2: working with Lance consistently, right, like for a year or so.

1743
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 2: I was his producer on Sports Talk every night. And

1744
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:20,880
Speaker 2: one night, at the end of the show, I said

1745
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:24,080
Speaker 2: to him, Hey, man, it's kind of a weird, weird request,

1746
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:26,439
Speaker 2: but could you unblock me on Twitter?

1747
01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:32,599
Speaker 3: His jaw almost hit the floor. How long into being

1748
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:34,439
Speaker 3: the producer? What did it take for you to bring

1749
01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:34,800
Speaker 3: that up?

1750
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 16: Like?

1751
01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 2: How long did you sit with that? I had been

1752
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:43,639
Speaker 2: employed here for probably a year. I had probably been

1753
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:48,160
Speaker 2: doing his show for a few months. A few months. Now,

1754
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:49,639
Speaker 2: in a month or so, you'll be doing a Christmas

1755
01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 2: special with us? Yeah, Oh, I did that last year too.

1756
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:55,640
Speaker 2: His jaw almost hit the floor. He's like, what I

1757
01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:57,599
Speaker 2: blocked you? And I was like, yeah, I deserved it.

1758
01:30:57,680 --> 01:31:00,400
Speaker 2: I mean I was cursing at you as a fifteen

1759
01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:04,800
Speaker 2: year old. I deserved it. Where's Phil Elmore? You got

1760
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:07,559
Speaker 2: a fifteen year old sending curse words on tweets. I

1761
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:09,800
Speaker 2: guarantee he didn't know about that. Well he does now.

1762
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 2: He probably does now, Phil, I'm gonna see him tonight. Phil,

1763
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 2: take care of this well. I took my dad to

1764
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:19,640
Speaker 2: Knippert Stadium on Saturday, first game he's ever seen it

1765
01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 2: at Knippert, and every time he saw Tony pike jersey

1766
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:26,479
Speaker 2: he about had an aneurysm. He was like, the point

1767
01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:29,280
Speaker 2: speak here it is. There's one right there speaking to that.

1768
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:32,040
Speaker 3: Someone sent me this on social media, shout out to

1769
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:34,320
Speaker 3: the member of the Trans Siberian Orchestra that was rocking

1770
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:37,519
Speaker 3: the Adida's fifteen jersey over the weekend.

1771
01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:42,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did see. I appreciate that, and I appreciate Phil.

1772
01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:44,599
Speaker 3: I just never thought he would allow his fifteen year

1773
01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:46,080
Speaker 3: old to be sending tweets like that.

1774
01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:48,479
Speaker 2: Oh he wasn't allowing it. I was doing it, Phil,

1775
01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 2: take it was my fault his Phil ground him tonight.

1776
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:55,759
Speaker 2: I also took him through the corridor at Knippert Stadium

1777
01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:58,120
Speaker 2: there and showed him the pictures. Oh yeah, like the

1778
01:31:58,160 --> 01:32:01,320
Speaker 2: twenty one team and the twenty team and blah blah blah.

1779
01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:03,759
Speaker 2: And I said, guess how many of those Bowl games

1780
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:07,960
Speaker 2: they won? What do you say? He's like, how many?

1781
01:32:08,479 --> 01:32:17,240
Speaker 2: I said, none? Not a single one. Phil helped me.

1782
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:19,200
Speaker 2: I did. I had to explain to him that there

1783
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:21,639
Speaker 2: was somebody wearing your jersey with the Orange Bowl batch

1784
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:25,879
Speaker 2: oh and went through good either Tony pick yeah, story

1785
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:28,400
Speaker 2: and all that. That's good. I'm glad we provided content. Well,

1786
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:30,759
Speaker 2: I just wanted to make sure he fully understood the history.

1787
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:32,679
Speaker 2: Are we going to talk about what I also said

1788
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:36,599
Speaker 2: with the people I saw a number three? Okay, but first,

1789
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:39,160
Speaker 2: Scott Sadderfield is gonna get you all caught up to

1790
01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:41,960
Speaker 2: speed on BYU and close the book on Arizona. Next.

1791
01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:44,719
Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1792
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:49,599
Speaker 1: You've been listening to football in the NATI on ESPN

1793
01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:57,640
Speaker 1: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals. This

1794
01:32:58,120 --> 01:33:03,920
Speaker 1: is Tony Pikes since he three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati,

1795
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:08,360
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1796
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1797
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1798
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1799
01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:23,160
Speaker 1: Thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 3: All right, we're here to the third and final hour

1801
01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:29,880
Speaker 3: of Cincy three sixty on a Tuesday. Thanks to our

1802
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 3: friends at Penn Station. Thank you for listening. If you

1803
01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 3: follow along the week, we do have scheduled guests throughout

1804
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:40,759
Speaker 3: the week. We have scheduled press conferences that happen. For instance,

1805
01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor speaks on Wednesdays, we carry that Scott Saderfield

1806
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:47,360
Speaker 3: speaks on Tuesdays, and we like to play that back

1807
01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:50,120
Speaker 3: for you as well, especially with this Cincinnati Bearcat team

1808
01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:52,559
Speaker 3: now coming off back to back lawsuits with a bye

1809
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:57,360
Speaker 3: week sandwiched in between. They host BYU Saturday night. It's

1810
01:33:57,360 --> 01:34:00,800
Speaker 3: an eight pm start, Big noon Kickoff is in a

1811
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:03,400
Speaker 3: very disappointing loss coming out of the buy to Arizona.

1812
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:06,639
Speaker 3: They no longer control their own destiny, but they are

1813
01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 3: still mathematically eligible to have a path to the Big

1814
01:34:10,240 --> 01:34:13,639
Speaker 3: twelve championship that would go away with a lost Saturday

1815
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:16,719
Speaker 3: night against b YU. So here is what Scott Saderfield

1816
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:19,440
Speaker 3: had to say in his weekly press conference earlier this afternoon.

1817
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:24,400
Speaker 39: Excited about this opportunity. B YU A great team. Kline.

1818
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:28,639
Speaker 39: He's done a phenomenal job there. Very mature team, UH.

1819
01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:32,200
Speaker 11: Physical, big coached well.

1820
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 16: UH.

1821
01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:36,520
Speaker 39: Defense is one of the best defenses in the country. Offensively,

1822
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:38,680
Speaker 39: you know, coming into the season, they thought, okay, well

1823
01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:41,400
Speaker 39: a new quarterback. They're they're maybe struggle a little bit,

1824
01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:44,840
Speaker 39: but back Myers played outstanding. He's playing like he's a

1825
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:47,880
Speaker 39: he's an older player, like an experienced player that plays

1826
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:51,400
Speaker 39: with great poise, throws the ball really well and then

1827
01:34:51,479 --> 01:34:53,360
Speaker 39: can run the football, which is you know, he's done

1828
01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:56,519
Speaker 39: a great job as a dual threat, big running back.

1829
01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:59,439
Speaker 39: He's a great, great player. And then number two is

1830
01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:02,080
Speaker 39: an outstand receiver. We played against him two years ago.

1831
01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:06,400
Speaker 39: You know, eleven creates some big time plays, has some

1832
01:35:06,439 --> 01:35:08,960
Speaker 39: great speed. I think they're very very good into special

1833
01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:11,240
Speaker 39: teams as well, so not not too much weakness. When

1834
01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:14,559
Speaker 39: you think about BYU, you know, a team that's used

1835
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:15,800
Speaker 39: to win and I think they're twenty and three in

1836
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:19,880
Speaker 39: the last two years. So an outstanding football team. You know,

1837
01:35:20,160 --> 01:35:23,160
Speaker 39: opportunity for US. Our seniors Senior day for US, so

1838
01:35:23,240 --> 01:35:25,519
Speaker 39: twenty two seniors will be be coming out for the

1839
01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:27,720
Speaker 39: last time. So I'm sure there'll be a lot of

1840
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:30,680
Speaker 39: emotions out there, and guys like Gavin Garhart's gonna make

1841
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:33,720
Speaker 39: his forty seventh start, which is incredible, you know, one

1842
01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:35,840
Speaker 39: of the best leaders I've ever been around, and of

1843
01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:38,920
Speaker 39: course Corleone and some of the other guys. I mean,

1844
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:42,479
Speaker 39: it's it's just a special group and so exciting day

1845
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:43,320
Speaker 39: for them as well.

1846
01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:48,400
Speaker 40: Any questions you'd mentioned after the game that Evan Pryor

1847
01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:51,799
Speaker 40: and Caleb Goodie should be back this week. Any update

1848
01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:55,040
Speaker 40: on that and are you surprised how much you missed him?

1849
01:35:55,600 --> 01:35:57,839
Speaker 39: No, I'm not surprised so much we missed him. We certainly,

1850
01:35:57,880 --> 01:35:59,840
Speaker 39: you know, two big playmakers for us that have great

1851
01:36:00,320 --> 01:36:02,479
Speaker 39: I mean, that's that's certainly something that you want to

1852
01:36:02,520 --> 01:36:05,080
Speaker 39: have on the field. We feel good about both those

1853
01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:07,600
Speaker 39: guys being available this week. Obviously, because a week goes on,

1854
01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:08,559
Speaker 39: we'll know more.

1855
01:36:08,360 --> 01:36:10,519
Speaker 11: But feel good about those guys.

1856
01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:14,839
Speaker 39: Goodie for sure will be ready to go, and priors

1857
01:36:15,160 --> 01:36:17,120
Speaker 39: I said this last week he's very close. Last week,

1858
01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:19,599
Speaker 39: I feel still feel good about him being available this.

1859
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:22,160
Speaker 11: Week running game.

1860
01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:24,640
Speaker 41: You had the two big explosive plays with Tawee, but

1861
01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:26,559
Speaker 41: then I think he was ten for twenty six and

1862
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:28,360
Speaker 41: the rest of us carries. When you went back and

1863
01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:31,600
Speaker 41: watched the film, what did Arizona do to quell that?

1864
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:33,400
Speaker 11: And what can you do against ba Well, I one

1865
01:36:33,439 --> 01:36:35,800
Speaker 11: of one of the big runs had him stop on

1866
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:36,400
Speaker 11: the right side.

1867
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:38,040
Speaker 39: He did a good job of just bouncing it, you know,

1868
01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:40,360
Speaker 39: and creating a big play on the back side of

1869
01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:43,479
Speaker 39: that run. They're a good defense. I mean we knew

1870
01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:47,519
Speaker 39: that coming in, you know. I think I think we

1871
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:49,439
Speaker 39: popped some good runs in the first quarter. I think

1872
01:36:49,439 --> 01:36:51,360
Speaker 39: we had one hundred and forty yards after the first quarter,

1873
01:36:51,439 --> 01:36:54,400
Speaker 39: so you know, some big runs there, you know, to

1874
01:36:54,439 --> 01:36:54,800
Speaker 39: get us.

1875
01:36:54,760 --> 01:36:59,280
Speaker 11: Some points on the board and score. But they're good defense.

1876
01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:01,720
Speaker 39: They muddy up the front, a lot of movement, a

1877
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:05,000
Speaker 39: lot of twists, move using their linebackers. They're good in

1878
01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:07,000
Speaker 39: the secondary, so they can do a lot of different things,

1879
01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:09,519
Speaker 39: you know. And I think there are three safeties I

1880
01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:13,080
Speaker 39: thought played really really good football as well. Uh forty

1881
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:15,200
Speaker 39: three's of man a good good football player, played a

1882
01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:17,760
Speaker 39: lot of ball, you know, and I think we just

1883
01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:20,280
Speaker 39: you know, we're not consistent enough in the run game

1884
01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:23,000
Speaker 39: there late in the game, you know, particularly in the

1885
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:26,000
Speaker 39: in the when we had we had the one touchdown

1886
01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:28,519
Speaker 39: lead fourteen to seven. I thought our defense at that

1887
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:31,800
Speaker 39: point was getting them off the field and holding the

1888
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:34,440
Speaker 39: field goal attempts, and that that's where me like, offensively,

1889
01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:36,960
Speaker 39: you know, we we needed to attack to get to

1890
01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:39,639
Speaker 39: get up up to scores. You get up two scores, now, okay,

1891
01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:41,640
Speaker 39: maybe a different ball game. We never were able to

1892
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:44,680
Speaker 39: do that. And then in the second half when we

1893
01:37:44,680 --> 01:37:47,040
Speaker 39: were moving the ball some we couldn't get them off

1894
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:47,400
Speaker 39: the field.

1895
01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:47,559
Speaker 11: You know.

1896
01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:50,160
Speaker 39: We we score to make it a one possession game,

1897
01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:52,160
Speaker 39: three point game was six and a half minutes, you know,

1898
01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:53,800
Speaker 39: and then we got the ball back think a minute

1899
01:37:53,800 --> 01:37:55,760
Speaker 39: and a half, you know. And you know, so we

1900
01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:58,400
Speaker 39: just didn't did not play complimentary football, like when when

1901
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:00,479
Speaker 39: one side of the other needed some help, we do it.

1902
01:38:00,520 --> 01:38:02,360
Speaker 11: And I think that was a big part of that game.

1903
01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:06,120
Speaker 42: Coach, you mentioned two standouts on the offensive side of

1904
01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:09,760
Speaker 42: the ball for BYU. L. J. Martin and Chase Roberts.

1905
01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:12,000
Speaker 42: What stands out about them and what do you remember

1906
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:13,880
Speaker 42: from the last time you guys played. Obviously those two

1907
01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:14,760
Speaker 42: had three touchdowns.

1908
01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:16,799
Speaker 11: Come on, yeah, good good players.

1909
01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:20,200
Speaker 39: Well I remember size really I think you know number

1910
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:22,960
Speaker 39: two is a long player that can run, has really

1911
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:26,640
Speaker 39: good hands. I remember the player out there on our sideline,

1912
01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:28,120
Speaker 39: you know, threats that sitting there. It look like he's

1913
01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:29,280
Speaker 39: getting ready to pick the ball, and then all of

1914
01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:31,160
Speaker 39: a sudden, two comes out of nowhere. It catches it

1915
01:38:31,680 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 39: and zig zags and scores a touchdown. And the running backs,

1916
01:38:35,200 --> 01:38:36,960
Speaker 39: I mean, I don't know how big two thirty twenty five,

1917
01:38:37,160 --> 01:38:40,640
Speaker 39: he's a big back that that that has speed. I

1918
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:42,479
Speaker 39: think is he leading the big twelve and rushing maybe?

1919
01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:45,360
Speaker 39: I mean he's he's good. And I think he missed

1920
01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:47,400
Speaker 39: the game or two with some injuries, but he came back.

1921
01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:49,840
Speaker 39: I mean he's he's a really good player, a very

1922
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:50,599
Speaker 39: solid player.

1923
01:38:52,040 --> 01:38:52,240
Speaker 16: You know.

1924
01:38:52,439 --> 01:38:54,519
Speaker 39: I just think they're very efficient in what they do

1925
01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:59,280
Speaker 39: offensively and in boch Myers taking care of the football.

1926
01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:01,439
Speaker 11: You know. I think the one game they turned.

1927
01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:03,000
Speaker 39: It over a couple of times maybe against Texas Tech.

1928
01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:04,920
Speaker 39: That was the one game they lost this year. So

1929
01:39:06,200 --> 01:39:09,080
Speaker 39: they just very efficient offense. And they're therefore, you know,

1930
01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:10,960
Speaker 39: when you play great defense, when the fishing, you give

1931
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:11,759
Speaker 39: yourself a chance.

1932
01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 11: To win Scott.

1933
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:15,840
Speaker 35: The last two games obviously haven't gone the way you

1934
01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:18,960
Speaker 35: guys hoped for, But is there anything you can take

1935
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:22,960
Speaker 35: away from them that you think, this is what we

1936
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:25,879
Speaker 35: need to do to take that next step towards becoming

1937
01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:29,800
Speaker 35: a championship caliber program in this conference, which you guys

1938
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:31,679
Speaker 35: have been close to this season.

1939
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:32,200
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1940
01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:34,120
Speaker 39: I mean, I just think you have to play complete,

1941
01:39:34,360 --> 01:39:38,000
Speaker 39: complete football game like you in all three phases.

1942
01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:40,000
Speaker 11: You have to be very very solid.

1943
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:42,880
Speaker 39: I think about the teams that are that are good

1944
01:39:42,880 --> 01:39:45,200
Speaker 39: in all three phases, they're usually the teams on top.

1945
01:39:45,240 --> 01:39:47,640
Speaker 39: I think, you know, think about Texas Tech right now.

1946
01:39:47,720 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 39: The way they're playing football BYU, the way they're playing

1947
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:52,599
Speaker 39: football all three phases are good. Even if you look

1948
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:55,320
Speaker 39: at a national scope, you know, like Indiana, who's done

1949
01:39:55,320 --> 01:39:57,639
Speaker 39: an unbelievable job. Go look what they're doing on offense

1950
01:39:57,680 --> 01:40:00,479
Speaker 39: and defense, Like they're top five in a country both.

1951
01:40:00,760 --> 01:40:03,640
Speaker 39: It's amazing to me, like how good you are at

1952
01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:06,479
Speaker 39: all three phases. You know, if you have one side

1953
01:40:06,479 --> 01:40:08,719
Speaker 39: of the ball that is not doing what they're supposed

1954
01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:10,080
Speaker 39: to do, it is going to be hard to win.

1955
01:40:10,479 --> 01:40:12,160
Speaker 39: You can still win, but it's going to be a

1956
01:40:12,240 --> 01:40:14,760
Speaker 39: lot more difficult to win. So in order to be

1957
01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:17,559
Speaker 39: that championship caliber team, you got to be really solid

1958
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:20,320
Speaker 39: in all three phases. Just like Saturday, I thought special

1959
01:40:20,360 --> 01:40:22,280
Speaker 39: teams were solid. We were good enough to win in

1960
01:40:22,360 --> 01:40:25,200
Speaker 39: special teams. Man, we did some good things. You know,

1961
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:26,720
Speaker 39: we gotta be a little bit more consistent on others,

1962
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:28,000
Speaker 39: the two sides of the ball, I mean, as the

1963
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:30,080
Speaker 39: bottom line in that game. And then having said that,

1964
01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:32,760
Speaker 39: we still had an opportunity, a chance to go win

1965
01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:35,160
Speaker 39: that game. You just got to make a few more plays.

1966
01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:37,040
Speaker 39: It just makes it a lot more difficult because the margins.

1967
01:40:37,080 --> 01:40:38,560
Speaker 39: We talked about this all year. The margins is the

1968
01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:38,960
Speaker 39: big twelve.

1969
01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:39,080
Speaker 1: Man.

1970
01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:41,920
Speaker 39: They're they're they're tight. You know, a play hero play

1971
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:43,840
Speaker 39: there could be the difference in the game. And that's

1972
01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:45,840
Speaker 39: trouven to proven to be true.

1973
01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:49,479
Speaker 40: Because look at black Myers and swersby stats, they're almost

1974
01:40:49,640 --> 01:40:53,160
Speaker 40: carbon copies, almost the same build, you know, same type player.

1975
01:40:53,479 --> 01:40:57,600
Speaker 40: Can Brendan bounce back after two games and obviously just

1976
01:40:57,640 --> 01:41:00,040
Speaker 40: had difficulty with the man coverage and all that, and

1977
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:02,560
Speaker 40: and you kind of know what's coming? Is it in

1978
01:41:02,680 --> 01:41:03,519
Speaker 40: him to bounce back?

1979
01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:04,280
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1980
01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:05,720
Speaker 39: I mean I think so. I mean I said this

1981
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:07,759
Speaker 39: after the game. I mean, you know, we had four drops,

1982
01:41:07,800 --> 01:41:10,360
Speaker 39: potentially five drops in that game. If our guys catch

1983
01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:13,000
Speaker 39: the football, then his stats are gonna look a lot different,

1984
01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:14,599
Speaker 39: you know. And I think, you know, I think that's

1985
01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:16,599
Speaker 39: the part. It's not just sprending. I thought I thought

1986
01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:18,320
Speaker 39: he had a really bad decision on the first play

1987
01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:21,559
Speaker 39: of the game, like that was awful. But really after that,

1988
01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:23,640
Speaker 39: it really played pretty good. I mean, he threw the

1989
01:41:23,640 --> 01:41:25,840
Speaker 39: ball good. I mean, you know that post ball which

1990
01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:28,599
Speaker 39: has been forty five fifty yards added to his stats.

1991
01:41:28,600 --> 01:41:30,080
Speaker 11: I mean, you got to catch that ball, you know.

1992
01:41:30,160 --> 01:41:31,920
Speaker 11: And I think you know, and.

1993
01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:34,040
Speaker 39: Our receivers will be the first to tell you, yeah,

1994
01:41:34,040 --> 01:41:35,599
Speaker 39: I got to catch that, you know. And I think

1995
01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:37,680
Speaker 39: so it just not just on one player. I mean

1996
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:40,040
Speaker 39: I think it's the whole team. You got to protect good,

1997
01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:42,080
Speaker 39: you got to run the good route, you got to

1998
01:41:42,080 --> 01:41:46,360
Speaker 39: make the catches, and you know, so yeah, absolutely.

1999
01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:46,680
Speaker 11: Can bounce back, you know.

2000
01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:49,760
Speaker 39: I think I think that's what we're practicing forward, striving forward,

2001
01:41:49,800 --> 01:41:50,959
Speaker 39: to go out and play well.

2002
01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:53,200
Speaker 11: And and to be clicking on all cylinders.

2003
01:41:54,479 --> 01:41:59,320
Speaker 41: How much, man, are you expecting to see against Bayu'll.

2004
01:41:57,880 --> 01:41:59,360
Speaker 39: Be some man, I mean, that's what they do you know,

2005
01:41:59,479 --> 01:42:01,760
Speaker 39: play Man, play three, they mix it up. You're gonna

2006
01:42:01,720 --> 01:42:05,120
Speaker 39: pay a lot of different things, you know. I think, uh,

2007
01:42:05,640 --> 01:42:07,920
Speaker 39: you know, they're really good on defense. I think they've

2008
01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:10,320
Speaker 39: created a lot of turnovers because of that. I think

2009
01:42:10,320 --> 01:42:14,080
Speaker 39: their corners are good where they're supposed to be. Their

2010
01:42:14,120 --> 01:42:16,200
Speaker 39: linebackers make plays. I mean a lot of people talk

2011
01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:19,080
Speaker 39: about their linebackers. I mean their long can run, their

2012
01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:22,599
Speaker 39: physical Yeah, I mean, they're they're they're a solid team.

2013
01:42:22,720 --> 01:42:24,640
Speaker 39: So we'll we'll, we'll see a little bit everything, but

2014
01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:26,440
Speaker 39: they're gonna do what they do.

2015
01:42:26,439 --> 01:42:29,439
Speaker 41: Does a part of you after the struggles with Man,

2016
01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:32,640
Speaker 41: do you want to not really tear it down but

2017
01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:35,080
Speaker 41: be more experimental to try something different, or do you

2018
01:42:35,080 --> 01:42:37,120
Speaker 41: stick to what's gotten you to seven three?

2019
01:42:37,200 --> 01:42:37,400
Speaker 16: No?

2020
01:42:37,439 --> 01:42:39,200
Speaker 39: I mean I think we gotta we gotta obviously try

2021
01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:42,120
Speaker 39: to do things that will get us, get us in

2022
01:42:42,120 --> 01:42:43,240
Speaker 39: a position to make plays.

2023
01:42:43,479 --> 01:42:44,840
Speaker 11: So whatever that takes.

2024
01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:47,320
Speaker 39: You know, it's one thing that we can sit here

2025
01:42:47,320 --> 01:42:49,400
Speaker 39: as coaches and we can draw up all kind of stuff,

2026
01:42:50,040 --> 01:42:51,799
Speaker 39: you know, and then our guys have to go execute,

2027
01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:51,920
Speaker 39: you know.

2028
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:53,680
Speaker 11: I mean, so it takes both of that.

2029
01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:55,439
Speaker 39: You know, we have to put our guy position and

2030
01:42:55,880 --> 01:42:57,240
Speaker 39: players in position to make plays.

2031
01:42:57,360 --> 01:42:58,599
Speaker 11: Then they have to go make the place.

2032
01:42:58,640 --> 01:43:00,479
Speaker 39: I mean, you have to get the protect, you got

2033
01:43:00,479 --> 01:43:01,880
Speaker 39: to make the throw, you got to make the catch,

2034
01:43:03,120 --> 01:43:05,880
Speaker 39: you know. And it's difficult playing against good defenses. If

2035
01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:12,320
Speaker 39: you guys look up defensive pass efficiency in our league,

2036
01:43:12,560 --> 01:43:17,360
Speaker 39: Arizona or are they ranked top five Utah or they

2037
01:43:17,439 --> 01:43:21,439
Speaker 39: ranked six? I think you Arizona's three in the country,

2038
01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:22,639
Speaker 39: their number six in the country.

2039
01:43:22,720 --> 01:43:25,160
Speaker 11: There's one hundred and thirty sixteen. They're pretty good on defense.

2040
01:43:26,040 --> 01:43:28,559
Speaker 39: This team is too. I think this team's ranked thirteenth

2041
01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:30,960
Speaker 39: and pass official defense. So you know, we're playing a

2042
01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:31,759
Speaker 39: lot of good teams.

2043
01:43:31,760 --> 01:43:32,240
Speaker 11: With that.

2044
01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:36,200
Speaker 39: When you're playing those teams, there is less room for era.

2045
01:43:36,360 --> 01:43:38,080
Speaker 39: You have to be on point, like you have to

2046
01:43:38,160 --> 01:43:40,360
Speaker 39: run Chris Brouts, you have to throw the ball on time.

2047
01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:42,439
Speaker 11: You've got to be able to make contested catches.

2048
01:43:42,479 --> 01:43:45,760
Speaker 39: So all those things come into play, and you know,

2049
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:47,360
Speaker 39: if you're not, it's going to be one of those

2050
01:43:47,400 --> 01:43:48,679
Speaker 39: days you gonna look up and look at the stats

2051
01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:51,040
Speaker 39: and it's not very good, you know, And so so

2052
01:43:51,200 --> 01:43:52,519
Speaker 39: you got to be on point. We got to continue

2053
01:43:52,520 --> 01:43:53,160
Speaker 39: to work to get better.

2054
01:43:53,840 --> 01:43:56,759
Speaker 42: Coach, You've obviously been around a lot of veteran leaders

2055
01:43:56,800 --> 01:43:59,160
Speaker 42: throughout your coaching career. Is it going to be a

2056
01:43:59,200 --> 01:44:02,760
Speaker 42: little emotional on Saturday night seeing Gavin and Dante take

2057
01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:04,639
Speaker 42: the field for the last time after pouring their heart

2058
01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:06,000
Speaker 42: and soul into this program last night?

2059
01:44:06,920 --> 01:44:10,400
Speaker 39: It's this, it's the finale for those guys in Knippert

2060
01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:12,920
Speaker 39: Man and and and for those guys in particular, I

2061
01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:16,439
Speaker 39: think about Gavin, who's committed as a sophomore here in

2062
01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:17,040
Speaker 39: high school.

2063
01:44:17,680 --> 01:44:19,439
Speaker 11: That's a long time man that he's been.

2064
01:44:19,800 --> 01:44:22,160
Speaker 39: You know, he's been in his blood, sweat and tears

2065
01:44:22,160 --> 01:44:23,840
Speaker 39: for the Bearcats and know and for him to go

2066
01:44:23,920 --> 01:44:26,439
Speaker 39: out and I think it's just that's the last time

2067
01:44:26,479 --> 01:44:28,280
Speaker 39: he knows he's gonna be running out in the stadium there.

2068
01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:31,080
Speaker 11: This will be very emotion for those guys, but also for.

2069
01:44:31,040 --> 01:44:33,800
Speaker 39: US coaches because of what you know, particularly those guys

2070
01:44:33,800 --> 01:44:35,600
Speaker 39: have done for this program. They've seen a lot of

2071
01:44:35,680 --> 01:44:37,920
Speaker 39: change and coaches.

2072
01:44:37,640 --> 01:44:38,880
Speaker 11: New conference and all that.

2073
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:42,400
Speaker 39: But man, they're great human beings and you know they

2074
01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:44,800
Speaker 39: obviously have bright futures ahead for them.

2075
01:44:46,240 --> 01:44:46,559
Speaker 2: All right.

2076
01:44:46,640 --> 01:44:49,479
Speaker 3: That is a part of Scott's Saderfield from earlier Today. Again,

2077
01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:52,000
Speaker 3: I think it's cool for for a lot of seniors

2078
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:53,040
Speaker 3: on this team to get to go out with a

2079
01:44:53,120 --> 01:44:56,920
Speaker 3: nipp at night. From experience, there's nothing better than a

2080
01:44:57,040 --> 01:45:01,479
Speaker 3: night game at Knippert Stadium. But the idea of complimentary football.

2081
01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:05,080
Speaker 3: That's when this team was winning, and they won seven

2082
01:45:05,080 --> 01:45:08,640
Speaker 3: games in a row, they were playing complimentary football. And

2083
01:45:08,680 --> 01:45:10,920
Speaker 3: in each of these losses the last couple of games,

2084
01:45:11,400 --> 01:45:15,640
Speaker 3: it's been little chinks in the armor, turnovers on offense inefficiency.

2085
01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:18,160
Speaker 3: When you have a fourteen to seven leading, you get

2086
01:45:18,200 --> 01:45:20,760
Speaker 3: the ball back four straight times, you got to go

2087
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:23,880
Speaker 3: put points on the board. You've got to expand that lead.

2088
01:45:24,240 --> 01:45:27,160
Speaker 3: Defense has not gotten the stops. Special teams has not

2089
01:45:27,240 --> 01:45:30,320
Speaker 3: been as strong. It's complimentary football and that's what the

2090
01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:32,680
Speaker 3: best teams are doing. And I certainly agree to that.

2091
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:39,080
Speaker 3: But Scott' Satifield alluded to it U Tah great defensive ranking,

2092
01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:43,080
Speaker 3: Arizona great defensive ranking BYU great defensive ranking. Guess what,

2093
01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:46,600
Speaker 3: You've eventually got to win that game. You've got to

2094
01:45:46,600 --> 01:45:49,439
Speaker 3: beat that team, and that has eluded this team for

2095
01:45:49,479 --> 01:45:52,120
Speaker 3: the most part in the Scotts Saderfield era. That has

2096
01:45:52,200 --> 01:45:55,639
Speaker 3: to change. On Saturday night. You can't go to three

2097
01:45:55,680 --> 01:45:57,960
Speaker 3: straight losses and then you can't open the door to

2098
01:45:58,280 --> 01:46:00,760
Speaker 3: end the season with another four game lose streak before

2099
01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:03,879
Speaker 3: a bowl game. It's just it is a very important

2100
01:46:03,880 --> 01:46:09,360
Speaker 3: game Saturday night at Nippert Stadium. If you are holding

2101
01:46:09,400 --> 01:46:12,559
Speaker 3: on and you're clinging to the hope that there is

2102
01:46:12,600 --> 01:46:16,559
Speaker 3: still a path for the Cincinnati Bearcats, there are two

2103
01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:20,320
Speaker 3: there are four two lost teams in the Big Twelve.

2104
01:46:21,040 --> 01:46:24,559
Speaker 3: Utah already has the heads up against the Cincinnati Bearcats.

2105
01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:27,320
Speaker 3: You would you would take the heads up against BYU,

2106
01:46:27,400 --> 01:46:29,400
Speaker 3: so you wouldn't have to worry about them. But you

2107
01:46:29,479 --> 01:46:33,360
Speaker 3: got a factor in Houston who still has to play

2108
01:46:33,400 --> 01:46:36,559
Speaker 3: TCU and then Baylor. Not an easy stretch for Houston,

2109
01:46:36,600 --> 01:46:41,120
Speaker 3: so that's possible. You would have to factor in Arizona State.

2110
01:46:41,360 --> 01:46:44,920
Speaker 3: Arizona State going forward has a game against Colorado and

2111
01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:48,640
Speaker 3: then they finish up their season against Arizona. That's a

2112
01:46:48,720 --> 01:46:51,880
Speaker 3: possibility because we just watched that Arizona team play against

2113
01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:54,680
Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Bearcats. The problem I think is going to

2114
01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:59,400
Speaker 3: be Utah. Utah hosts Kansas State on Saturday, and then

2115
01:46:59,439 --> 01:47:02,720
Speaker 3: they travel to Kansas on the day after Thanksgiving. So

2116
01:47:03,439 --> 01:47:08,679
Speaker 3: there is still a slight path, albeit not ideal. Because

2117
01:47:08,680 --> 01:47:11,519
Speaker 3: of the situation the Bearcats have put themselves in by

2118
01:47:11,560 --> 01:47:14,719
Speaker 3: not getting that win against Arizona and continuing that idea

2119
01:47:14,800 --> 01:47:17,439
Speaker 3: of win out and you control your own destiny. You

2120
01:47:17,439 --> 01:47:19,519
Speaker 3: now got to count on the help of others. We

2121
01:47:19,640 --> 01:47:22,080
Speaker 3: got plenty more to get to today, including your phone calls.

2122
01:47:22,120 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 3: Five one, three, seven, four nine, fifteen thirty. We'll open

2123
01:47:25,160 --> 01:47:29,479
Speaker 3: the phone lines back up. We've got UC BYU. We've

2124
01:47:29,479 --> 01:47:32,920
Speaker 3: got Bengals, Patriots, We've got FC Cincinnati and enter Miami.

2125
01:47:33,520 --> 01:47:37,880
Speaker 3: You've got college basketball tonight, Xavier in action, Kentucky in action,

2126
01:47:38,439 --> 01:47:41,160
Speaker 3: you see in Louisville on Friday night, high school action.

2127
01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:43,280
Speaker 3: Whatever you want to talk about, give us a call.

2128
01:47:43,320 --> 01:47:43,720
Speaker 2: We'll do so.

2129
01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:46,720
Speaker 3: Next five one, three, seven, four nine, fifteen thirty on

2130
01:47:46,760 --> 01:47:49,559
Speaker 3: the Home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

2131
01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:55,840
Speaker 1: Every sport, every story, every angle. Loeggar Today at three

2132
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Speaker 1: pm on ESPN fifteen thirty.

2133
01:48:01,160 --> 01:48:03,439
Speaker 2: Another summer is ended, and you may have he's done.

2134
01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:06,880
Speaker 20: FC Cincinnati's chased for the Cup, Yes the end, fifteen thirty,

2135
01:48:07,120 --> 01:48:08,599
Speaker 20: Cincinnati Sports Station.

2136
01:48:19,720 --> 01:48:23,960
Speaker 2: Shout out to the weather today. It is a little

2137
01:48:23,960 --> 01:48:27,040
Speaker 2: bit purple ring going on today. Come on, maybe a

2138
01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:30,000
Speaker 2: purple Friday at pay Corps. Ooh what do we think

2139
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:32,040
Speaker 2: about that. I don't want to take sides. All right,

2140
01:48:32,800 --> 01:48:34,760
Speaker 2: we'll do that Friday with me. Make picks. Well, I'm

2141
01:48:34,760 --> 01:48:37,720
Speaker 2: not here Friday. I can tell you who I'm gonna pick.

2142
01:48:37,760 --> 01:48:37,920
Speaker 11: Who.

2143
01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:40,680
Speaker 2: Give me Saint X.

2144
01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:41,520
Speaker 9: Wow?

2145
01:48:43,240 --> 01:48:46,320
Speaker 2: Wow, there isn't an elder person who just said something

2146
01:48:46,360 --> 01:48:49,240
Speaker 2: really offensive to me in a private text message. Okay,

2147
01:48:49,400 --> 01:48:51,960
Speaker 2: so because of that, I'm out. Deal on elder, I

2148
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:56,000
Speaker 2: get it. Give me Rocky Boyman, Luke Keikley, who's it?

2149
01:48:56,120 --> 01:48:59,320
Speaker 2: Max Claire? Wow? In the Saint X Bomber Chase Wolf,

2150
01:48:59,640 --> 01:49:02,880
Speaker 2: Chase Wolf, Yes, about that right, we love the Wolf family. Man.

2151
01:49:03,920 --> 01:49:05,559
Speaker 2: Might just let this play for a while. I'll tell

2152
01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:07,719
Speaker 2: you what. I used to be the public address announcer

2153
01:49:07,720 --> 01:49:12,280
Speaker 2: for Sidney Yellowjacket Baseball, and we'd get these yellow jackets,

2154
01:49:12,280 --> 01:49:14,800
Speaker 2: we'd get these rain delays. That's where we'd go with

2155
01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:17,200
Speaker 2: and I just blast this. I'll tell you the parents

2156
01:49:17,240 --> 01:49:19,599
Speaker 2: loved it. A little purple rain, Just a little purple

2157
01:49:19,720 --> 01:49:22,080
Speaker 2: rain on a day like today. Come well done, sing

2158
01:49:22,120 --> 01:49:32,240
Speaker 2: it to us friends, well done? Wow wow? All right,

2159
01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:35,599
Speaker 2: let's do this for a second. By the way, thanks

2160
01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:38,679
Speaker 2: to penn Station here now number three. You think Prince

2161
01:49:38,720 --> 01:49:48,240
Speaker 2: ever had pen station absolutely, Yeah, did did. That's one

2162
01:49:48,280 --> 01:49:50,400
Speaker 2: of the craziest days on this show. I thought you

2163
01:49:50,400 --> 01:49:53,439
Speaker 2: were lying through your teeth. Nope, let me get this.

2164
01:49:54,200 --> 01:49:58,400
Speaker 3: Uh, I'm I'm minding my business this this morning, and

2165
01:49:58,479 --> 01:50:01,240
Speaker 3: I'm talking. I'm looking at stuff with the Bengals and

2166
01:50:01,880 --> 01:50:05,040
Speaker 3: talk about Trey Hendrickson, and we've talked about Jamar Chase

2167
01:50:05,080 --> 01:50:07,400
Speaker 3: and what's going on around this team and certainly a

2168
01:50:07,439 --> 01:50:10,000
Speaker 3: big week for the Cincinnati Bearcats. What I didn't have

2169
01:50:10,600 --> 01:50:12,519
Speaker 3: on my card today was talking at all about the

2170
01:50:12,560 --> 01:50:15,000
Speaker 3: Reds or Hunter Green. And then I came across the

2171
01:50:15,040 --> 01:50:20,559
Speaker 3: story by Greg Kufner on Cincinnati Reds for SI, and

2172
01:50:20,920 --> 01:50:25,000
Speaker 3: it essentially outlines how there are members of the Reds

2173
01:50:25,080 --> 01:50:29,320
Speaker 3: organization who may be unhappy with Hunter Green. Now, we've

2174
01:50:29,320 --> 01:50:32,479
Speaker 3: seen a lot of these trade rumors that have come up,

2175
01:50:32,520 --> 01:50:34,639
Speaker 3: and you kind of just quickly shoot it down because

2176
01:50:34,640 --> 01:50:37,280
Speaker 3: it's like, why would you trade Hunter Green. He's got

2177
01:50:37,280 --> 01:50:39,400
Speaker 3: one of the most team friendly deals at all of baseball,

2178
01:50:39,400 --> 01:50:42,679
Speaker 3: and he's a great starting pitcher. And then the more

2179
01:50:42,720 --> 01:50:47,720
Speaker 3: you kind of reading between the lines, you know he

2180
01:50:48,200 --> 01:50:53,879
Speaker 3: had the groin injury, he was rehabbing, he reported symptoms

2181
01:50:53,920 --> 01:50:56,679
Speaker 3: and canceled his own rehab assignment, but the MRI accorded

2182
01:50:56,680 --> 01:50:59,160
Speaker 3: to the Reds and Terry Francona came back clean, so

2183
01:50:59,200 --> 01:51:03,000
Speaker 3: it kind of just got pushed on. Well, it's gonna

2184
01:51:03,000 --> 01:51:07,599
Speaker 3: be when Hunter's comfortable, It's gonna bree when Hunter's ready

2185
01:51:07,640 --> 01:51:11,160
Speaker 3: to go. I just feel like any time you read

2186
01:51:11,200 --> 01:51:13,519
Speaker 3: as much about a player as we've heard or read

2187
01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:18,080
Speaker 3: about Hunter Green, maybe there's more there. Maybe there's more

2188
01:51:18,120 --> 01:51:23,800
Speaker 3: there into teammate leader, clubhouse, maybe there's more into how

2189
01:51:23,800 --> 01:51:26,960
Speaker 3: he was coming back from injury. I don't know because

2190
01:51:26,960 --> 01:51:29,920
Speaker 3: we're not there, But does this feel something to you,

2191
01:51:30,040 --> 01:51:33,240
Speaker 3: Austin that is is something that's just kind of thrown

2192
01:51:33,280 --> 01:51:34,960
Speaker 3: at the wall, or do you think that there's got

2193
01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:36,760
Speaker 3: some staying.

2194
01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:38,680
Speaker 2: Power here with an article like this. I get the

2195
01:51:38,840 --> 01:51:44,839
Speaker 2: sense that the Hunter Green trade rumors basically came from

2196
01:51:45,240 --> 01:51:49,559
Speaker 2: this story and the idea that there was some sort

2197
01:51:49,600 --> 01:51:54,519
Speaker 2: of conflict between Hunter Green and the Rents where instead

2198
01:51:54,520 --> 01:51:57,400
Speaker 2: of coming back maybe at the timeline the Reds expected

2199
01:51:57,479 --> 01:52:00,559
Speaker 2: him to come back, Hunter Green went and got his

2200
01:52:00,760 --> 01:52:05,000
Speaker 2: own second opinion, third opinion. And I think the word

2201
01:52:05,000 --> 01:52:07,160
Speaker 2: that Charlie Goldsmith used when he was on our air

2202
01:52:07,280 --> 01:52:11,880
Speaker 2: over the summer was it's Hunter's timeline, which would to

2203
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:17,400
Speaker 2: me signal the idea of a disagreement between the Reds

2204
01:52:17,400 --> 01:52:21,919
Speaker 2: and their medical staff and Hunter Green. I would assume

2205
01:52:22,280 --> 01:52:25,599
Speaker 2: there might be a layer of distrust there based off

2206
01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:27,760
Speaker 2: some of the injuries we've seen in the past, and

2207
01:52:27,800 --> 01:52:29,960
Speaker 2: we've spent a lot of time on this show making

2208
01:52:30,040 --> 01:52:34,280
Speaker 2: fun of and questioning the timelines and medical staff that

2209
01:52:34,320 --> 01:52:37,080
Speaker 2: the Reds have. We're not doctors, we don't pretend to be.

2210
01:52:37,600 --> 01:52:40,920
Speaker 2: But there have been multiple times where players or managers

2211
01:52:41,080 --> 01:52:43,639
Speaker 2: or others have kind of put their foot in their

2212
01:52:43,640 --> 01:52:48,840
Speaker 2: mouth based off of this staff, and so I think

2213
01:52:48,920 --> 01:52:53,760
Speaker 2: Hunter was especially cautious with his injury to the point

2214
01:52:53,800 --> 01:52:56,880
Speaker 2: where it was probably frustrating for Reds fans, for other

2215
01:52:56,920 --> 01:52:59,639
Speaker 2: players on the team, for the coaching staff. I'm sure

2216
01:52:59,640 --> 01:53:03,040
Speaker 2: all of it, and I would assume that that's where

2217
01:53:03,080 --> 01:53:09,479
Speaker 2: the idea of a disconnect could lead to a trade.

2218
01:53:08,960 --> 01:53:11,679
Speaker 2: That's how I read this story.

2219
01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:14,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, and again this is us speculating. This is obviously

2220
01:53:14,720 --> 01:53:16,640
Speaker 3: nothing we know. But I even think if you go

2221
01:53:16,720 --> 01:53:20,679
Speaker 3: down on this article, Nick Krawl essentially addressed the rumors

2222
01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:22,960
Speaker 3: and said, look, we're trying to do what's best for

2223
01:53:23,000 --> 01:53:24,760
Speaker 3: our team. I don't want to rule anything out. But

2224
01:53:24,840 --> 01:53:26,559
Speaker 3: that's a hard one to actually say, hey, we're going

2225
01:53:26,640 --> 01:53:28,080
Speaker 3: to trade the guy that has a chance to be

2226
01:53:28,120 --> 01:53:29,799
Speaker 3: the ace of your staff and top of the rotation

2227
01:53:29,920 --> 01:53:33,880
Speaker 3: guy going to the postseason. But even that, it's not

2228
01:53:34,160 --> 01:53:36,960
Speaker 3: as reassuring as shooting something down and saying no, we're not.

2229
01:53:36,880 --> 01:53:39,439
Speaker 2: Going to move him. Well, I think that's Nick Krawl's

2230
01:53:39,479 --> 01:53:42,360
Speaker 2: way of shooting it down. I don't think it was

2231
01:53:42,479 --> 01:53:47,040
Speaker 2: ever a true consideration that the Reds would trade Hunter Green.

2232
01:53:47,760 --> 01:53:50,840
Speaker 2: I think it was just, hey, this thing happened, and

2233
01:53:50,920 --> 01:53:52,880
Speaker 2: I wonder if that would be enough for them to

2234
01:53:52,920 --> 01:53:55,439
Speaker 2: consider it. I don't think the Reds ever really have

2235
01:53:55,560 --> 01:53:58,160
Speaker 2: considered it. Yeah, it doesn't feel like they have no

2236
01:53:58,439 --> 01:54:01,519
Speaker 2: and they shouldn't no reason to. We've talked about it

2237
01:54:01,520 --> 01:54:03,920
Speaker 2: a lot. He's the eighty third or whatever it is,

2238
01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:06,559
Speaker 2: highest paid picture you have a chance to win. It's

2239
01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:09,000
Speaker 2: with Hunter Green. If the guy is making thirty million

2240
01:54:09,040 --> 01:54:11,719
Speaker 2: dollars and he can't start and he's having these injuries,

2241
01:54:12,040 --> 01:54:14,679
Speaker 2: then that's a different story. Maybe you do trade him,

2242
01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:17,240
Speaker 2: but he's not and he's under control for a long time,

2243
01:54:17,640 --> 01:54:19,720
Speaker 2: and we have seen when he's healthy he's as good

2244
01:54:19,720 --> 01:54:22,639
Speaker 2: as anybody in baseball, and that includes guys like Paul Skeins,

2245
01:54:22,640 --> 01:54:24,960
Speaker 2: because there was a stretch this summer where those two

2246
01:54:24,960 --> 01:54:28,959
Speaker 2: were nasty. Yeah, just flat out and so too. Yeah, exactly.

2247
01:54:29,040 --> 01:54:32,360
Speaker 2: So I think that's like the the bread crumbs of

2248
01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:35,240
Speaker 2: like what might have happened to like even consider this

2249
01:54:35,360 --> 01:54:38,560
Speaker 2: being a thing. But I doubt that the Reds, at

2250
01:54:38,640 --> 01:54:43,840
Speaker 2: least Nick Crawl never really considered something like this. Yeah,

2251
01:54:44,240 --> 01:54:47,640
Speaker 2: still something to But if that's the case, though that

2252
01:54:47,800 --> 01:54:52,840
Speaker 2: like there was some sort of disagreement between what Hunter

2253
01:54:52,920 --> 01:54:56,080
Speaker 2: felt was best for him and the Reds organization. I

2254
01:54:56,080 --> 01:54:59,280
Speaker 2: would give them credit for allowing Hunter to go and

2255
01:54:59,320 --> 01:55:02,440
Speaker 2: do his own thing, but also I would be working

2256
01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:06,880
Speaker 2: hard on that relationship this offseason to fix it so

2257
01:55:06,960 --> 01:55:10,800
Speaker 2: that we don't face this type of issue again, because

2258
01:55:11,280 --> 01:55:17,040
Speaker 2: that's not good for anybody. No, let's uh, let's take

2259
01:55:17,080 --> 01:55:19,400
Speaker 2: a call before we get to a break here. Tim

2260
01:55:19,440 --> 01:55:20,000
Speaker 2: is calling in.

2261
01:55:20,040 --> 01:55:23,200
Speaker 16: Hello, Tim, Hey, how you guys doing.

2262
01:55:25,080 --> 01:55:25,320
Speaker 37: Hey?

2263
01:55:25,440 --> 01:55:30,280
Speaker 10: I want to ask you Tonya, how's the help of Soresby?

2264
01:55:30,520 --> 01:55:32,560
Speaker 16: Because he was hurt the night game?

2265
01:55:32,680 --> 01:55:35,800
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, Austin you heard him earlier. I believe he

2266
01:55:35,800 --> 01:55:38,080
Speaker 3: said that the ankle was is okay. Yeah, our guy

2267
01:55:38,200 --> 01:55:40,240
Speaker 3: Keegan Nicholson. Yeah, he was asked earlier.

2268
01:55:40,760 --> 01:55:42,920
Speaker 2: He says, is his ankle is good even though he

2269
01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:44,400
Speaker 2: got rolled up on against Arizona.

2270
01:55:44,480 --> 01:55:46,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it inhibited from running late in that

2271
01:55:46,480 --> 01:55:50,320
Speaker 3: game against Arizona. He did get rolled up on, but

2272
01:55:50,400 --> 01:55:53,360
Speaker 3: as we learned today, he is healthy.

2273
01:55:53,560 --> 01:55:54,680
Speaker 2: Yeah ahead of b y U.

2274
01:55:56,080 --> 01:55:58,880
Speaker 16: All right, thanks? He awesome real quick.

2275
01:55:58,960 --> 01:56:04,360
Speaker 13: Hey listen, I'm gonna I understand you want to tax

2276
01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:06,760
Speaker 13: is fine. I put a little side bet on a

2277
01:56:06,920 --> 01:56:07,800
Speaker 13: fun side bet.

2278
01:56:08,280 --> 01:56:09,760
Speaker 2: What do you got?

2279
01:56:10,600 --> 01:56:15,840
Speaker 16: I don't know, like uh uh hot, like like the

2280
01:56:16,080 --> 01:56:16,560
Speaker 16: kind of him.

2281
01:56:17,240 --> 01:56:19,920
Speaker 2: I'll think about it, Tim, I'll get back to Okay,

2282
01:56:20,000 --> 01:56:22,360
Speaker 2: all right, thank you, Tim, Okay, we'll think about it.

2283
01:56:22,400 --> 01:56:25,880
Speaker 2: That's some hot fun Sunday bets. I've I've picked against

2284
01:56:25,920 --> 01:56:32,040
Speaker 2: elder once ever and they won. So if I pick

2285
01:56:32,080 --> 01:56:35,160
Speaker 2: against them again. So you're trying to help him, perhaps,

2286
01:56:35,680 --> 01:56:41,400
Speaker 2: I don't know. Unless the person who you know said

2287
01:56:41,400 --> 01:56:45,200
Speaker 2: this awful thing to me you're asking for, unless he apologizes,

2288
01:56:45,520 --> 01:56:50,320
Speaker 2: that could be how you know my mind and comes

2289
01:56:50,360 --> 01:56:52,120
Speaker 2: to an end based on a text that you received,

2290
01:56:52,160 --> 01:56:54,880
Speaker 2: already got a text. I see how it is. You'll

2291
01:56:54,880 --> 01:56:57,320
Speaker 2: be sorry. Okay, you have an opportunity to fix this

2292
01:56:57,320 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 2: they don't want to fix it. Now there see what happened,

2293
01:57:00,000 --> 01:57:01,560
Speaker 2: doublin down. I don't want to do this to the

2294
01:57:01,600 --> 01:57:04,360
Speaker 2: great folks at Elder Love the people at Elder Well,

2295
01:57:04,480 --> 01:57:06,880
Speaker 2: I think you already gone runk and others. You already

2296
01:57:06,920 --> 01:57:07,800
Speaker 2: have my guy.

2297
01:57:08,200 --> 01:57:10,840
Speaker 3: We'll take a break more to go next to ESPN.

2298
01:57:10,880 --> 01:57:13,520
Speaker 3: I wish they could go to this gate Cincinnati sports station.

2299
01:57:14,000 --> 01:57:16,960
Speaker 9: The school is in session when the Bengals look to

2300
01:57:17,080 --> 01:57:20,800
Speaker 9: take New England to task. Who new history class could

2301
01:57:20,880 --> 01:57:24,960
Speaker 9: get this violent? Speaking of the Patriots. I wonder how

2302
01:57:25,080 --> 01:57:28,560
Speaker 9: I would look in a powdered wig. Probably not good.

2303
01:57:28,760 --> 01:57:32,560
Speaker 9: Coverage begins at nine am Sunday, stream for free on

2304
01:57:32,680 --> 01:57:37,160
Speaker 9: the new and improved iHeart Radio app or ESPN fifteen thirty,

2305
01:57:37,480 --> 01:57:45,000
Speaker 9: the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

2306
01:57:45,400 --> 01:57:50,120
Speaker 2: I got to bring something up, Tony. Okay, and I

2307
01:57:50,280 --> 01:57:53,680
Speaker 2: swear on everything. Okay, I am not trying to rage

2308
01:57:53,720 --> 01:57:56,200
Speaker 2: me now, listen, I promise you I'm not.

2309
01:57:56,320 --> 01:57:59,720
Speaker 3: When you say something like that, yes, you are a

2310
01:57:59,760 --> 01:58:01,840
Speaker 3: saying I'm going to rage bait.

2311
01:58:01,960 --> 01:58:07,760
Speaker 2: No, I'm saying this could be taken as rage bait,

2312
01:58:08,200 --> 01:58:13,640
Speaker 2: but it's not because I don't want to get people

2313
01:58:13,720 --> 01:58:15,960
Speaker 2: riled up. I swear to God, I'm not trying to

2314
01:58:15,960 --> 01:58:19,240
Speaker 2: do that. So I was at the UC game on Saturday,

2315
01:58:20,000 --> 01:58:22,200
Speaker 2: and I had a great time. A lot has changed

2316
01:58:22,240 --> 01:58:24,480
Speaker 2: in the nine years since I had been there, Sure,

2317
01:58:24,960 --> 01:58:29,800
Speaker 2: and people were lovely, people were wonderful. But I was

2318
01:58:29,920 --> 01:58:35,240
Speaker 2: shocked that I saw at least five people because I

2319
01:58:35,320 --> 01:58:40,600
Speaker 2: kept count at least five people wearing Ohio State football

2320
01:58:40,640 --> 01:58:46,440
Speaker 2: gear inside Knippert Stadium for that big twelve clash between

2321
01:58:46,480 --> 01:58:51,960
Speaker 2: the Bearcats and the Wildcats. I'm shocked by that number

2322
01:58:51,960 --> 01:58:54,760
Speaker 2: one just because I know UC fans do not like

2323
01:58:54,800 --> 01:59:01,000
Speaker 2: Ohio State. Sure, and just kind of looking for an

2324
01:59:01,000 --> 01:59:04,560
Speaker 2: explanation or is there is there something I might have

2325
01:59:04,680 --> 01:59:09,800
Speaker 2: missed here? Well, because I could not believe what I

2326
01:59:09,880 --> 01:59:11,600
Speaker 2: was seeing. And then I think at one point there

2327
01:59:11,720 --> 01:59:15,320
Speaker 2: was a gentleman that saw me and was shocked to

2328
01:59:15,360 --> 01:59:18,440
Speaker 2: see me. Now I wasn't wearing Ohio State gear. I

2329
01:59:18,920 --> 01:59:20,640
Speaker 2: tried to be as respectful as I could. I had

2330
01:59:20,640 --> 01:59:23,440
Speaker 2: a red hat that said Cincinnati on it. It's a

2331
01:59:23,520 --> 01:59:25,640
Speaker 2: it's a Red's hat, but it's just a Cincinnati across

2332
01:59:25,680 --> 01:59:28,400
Speaker 2: the front. I was all black. I was trying to

2333
01:59:28,480 --> 01:59:33,520
Speaker 2: look like I was on a coach sideline but I

2334
01:59:33,520 --> 01:59:36,520
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe what I had seen. Now, Nippert Stadium

2335
01:59:36,560 --> 01:59:39,160
Speaker 2: holds around forty thousand. Huh.

2336
01:59:39,560 --> 01:59:41,800
Speaker 3: Anytime you get a big gathering together, you're gonna have

2337
01:59:42,440 --> 01:59:44,760
Speaker 3: some eggs, some bad eggs in the building.

2338
01:59:44,960 --> 01:59:45,400
Speaker 2: Interesting.

2339
01:59:45,960 --> 01:59:51,120
Speaker 3: I would also imagine that with UC Arizona being a

2340
01:59:51,120 --> 01:59:53,240
Speaker 3: noon game, that there were probably people in attendance that

2341
01:59:53,280 --> 01:59:54,200
Speaker 3: probably double dipped.

2342
01:59:55,040 --> 01:59:56,800
Speaker 2: Oh that's a good point.

2343
01:59:56,520 --> 01:59:59,600
Speaker 3: That watched the game and then made the drive up

2344
01:59:59,680 --> 02:00:01,839
Speaker 3: to colle to watch the night game in the show.

2345
02:00:01,720 --> 02:00:04,440
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe they were just already ready for that, Okay,

2346
02:00:05,200 --> 02:00:08,720
Speaker 2: makes sense. I just I to me, no, I swear

2347
02:00:08,760 --> 02:00:13,120
Speaker 2: because I I debated even bringing it up, but then

2348
02:00:13,160 --> 02:00:15,560
Speaker 2: I saw we got a call here from Yeah, what's

2349
02:00:15,600 --> 02:00:16,920
Speaker 2: Matt want to talk about? Balling?

2350
02:00:16,960 --> 02:00:18,160
Speaker 11: Ain't easy? What a balling?

2351
02:00:19,920 --> 02:00:20,640
Speaker 2: Hey, how's it going?

2352
02:00:20,720 --> 02:00:20,960
Speaker 20: Guys?

2353
02:00:20,960 --> 02:00:23,560
Speaker 2: Thanks for taking my call? Sure, absolutely, thanks for calling.

2354
02:00:24,960 --> 02:00:27,560
Speaker 43: Well, yeah, Austin, I really appreciate you. I'm really calling

2355
02:00:27,600 --> 02:00:29,160
Speaker 43: to talk to Austin. This is this is going to

2356
02:00:29,240 --> 02:00:34,440
Speaker 43: be a Buckeye centered talk if that's okay with you, guys, Yeah,

2357
02:00:34,560 --> 02:00:35,320
Speaker 43: I appreciate it.

2358
02:00:35,400 --> 02:00:35,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2359
02:00:36,000 --> 02:00:39,560
Speaker 43: So basically what you're seeing is all these Ohio State

2360
02:00:39,600 --> 02:00:40,600
Speaker 43: fans Ohio State.

2361
02:00:40,640 --> 02:00:42,680
Speaker 2: We're going to carry the torch for the state of Ohio.

2362
02:00:42,800 --> 02:00:45,360
Speaker 43: I've been talking with my UC fans and they seem

2363
02:00:45,400 --> 02:00:47,080
Speaker 43: to really be okay with the idea. I texted them,

2364
02:00:47,080 --> 02:00:49,200
Speaker 43: I said, guys, I know things are kind of falling

2365
02:00:49,240 --> 02:00:52,000
Speaker 43: apart in Clifton, Easy, that's okay, I get it. But

2366
02:00:52,760 --> 02:00:54,600
Speaker 43: we can carry the torch for you in Columbus.

2367
02:00:54,640 --> 02:00:55,560
Speaker 2: We're going all the way.

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Speaker 43: Austin, I want to hear from you. How do you

2369
02:00:57,640 --> 02:00:59,920
Speaker 43: feel confidence? Why this year for our chance to reap

2370
02:01:00,600 --> 02:01:01,920
Speaker 43: do you have a confidence level?

2371
02:01:02,120 --> 02:01:06,839
Speaker 2: Uh? My confidence is an eight out of ten. And

2372
02:01:07,240 --> 02:01:11,400
Speaker 2: the big thing that I'm most worried about is if

2373
02:01:11,520 --> 02:01:14,960
Speaker 2: the Jeremiah Smith injury turns out to be worse than

2374
02:01:15,000 --> 02:01:18,600
Speaker 2: we thought. And also Indiana scares the hell out of me.

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Speaker 43: Okay, So was he limping before the game against Yeah?

2376
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Speaker 2: So, According to Ohio State's radio broadcast, he had quad

2377
02:01:31,120 --> 02:01:33,600
Speaker 2: tightness that he had been dealing with the day of

2378
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Speaker 2: the game, quadrat He played like the first quarter and

2379
02:01:37,600 --> 02:01:39,720
Speaker 2: a half they got up and then he didn't really

2380
02:01:39,720 --> 02:01:40,640
Speaker 2: play much after that.

2381
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Speaker 43: And Tony, this is the Power five conversation.

2382
02:01:46,680 --> 02:01:47,280
Speaker 2: This is being.

2383
02:01:52,120 --> 02:01:53,600
Speaker 16: Not when you when.

2384
02:01:58,720 --> 02:02:00,280
Speaker 2: The power no.

2385
02:02:01,760 --> 02:02:05,520
Speaker 43: Listen on surviving this schedule on a week to week baseball.

2386
02:02:06,640 --> 02:02:08,920
Speaker 2: A part this is this is tough football. We're talking

2387
02:02:08,960 --> 02:02:13,080
Speaker 2: about big ten baby. Oh yeah, Rutgers is gonna put

2388
02:02:13,120 --> 02:02:15,800
Speaker 2: up a big fight. Greg Ciano and his wood chopping.

2389
02:02:17,200 --> 02:02:19,720
Speaker 2: No chance we could beat him. We could beat him

2390
02:02:19,760 --> 02:02:21,800
Speaker 2: with with me and Austin at wide receiver. This week.

2391
02:02:22,320 --> 02:02:27,240
Speaker 2: What's your best route they're balling? Probably a fly pattern?

2392
02:02:27,920 --> 02:02:29,200
Speaker 2: All right?

2393
02:02:29,240 --> 02:02:32,680
Speaker 3: Maybe start picking up the seven on seven championships instead

2394
02:02:32,680 --> 02:02:33,360
Speaker 3: of three on three.

2395
02:02:35,320 --> 02:02:39,880
Speaker 43: I listen, hey, I played very well, played exceptionally well

2396
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Speaker 43: this year.

2397
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Speaker 2: I just I gotta I gotta build around myself. You

2398
02:02:43,000 --> 02:02:45,360
Speaker 2: know that, you do? I get it, I get it?

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Speaker 2: All right? It's that okay, thank you, thank you guys.

2400
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Speaker 2: You know does didn't our guy Rocky Boyman and he's

2401
02:02:53,240 --> 02:02:55,200
Speaker 2: like starting to seven on seven leagues. I don't know,

2402
02:02:55,840 --> 02:02:57,720
Speaker 2: By the way, who's to say? I mean, could we

2403
02:02:57,760 --> 02:03:01,520
Speaker 2: maybe build a team? Could you throw? Oh yeah? Do

2404
02:03:01,560 --> 02:03:04,440
Speaker 2: you think legit? You could? You know, if you get

2405
02:03:04,560 --> 02:03:07,640
Speaker 2: a band of no, no, a band of misfits like

2406
02:03:07,760 --> 02:03:10,000
Speaker 2: me and balling ain't easy, and a guy like James

2407
02:03:10,040 --> 02:03:13,000
Speaker 2: Orpene or Tearing Bland, you think we could win some

2408
02:03:13,040 --> 02:03:16,000
Speaker 2: seven on seven yes, with you at quarterback.

2409
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Speaker 3: And James would be my center. He'd be my least

2410
02:03:20,680 --> 02:03:23,360
Speaker 3: confident guy to throw a ball to. By the way,

2411
02:03:23,880 --> 02:03:26,840
Speaker 3: just to put a bow on this, five people out

2412
02:03:26,840 --> 02:03:29,800
Speaker 3: of forty thousand is point zero one two five percent.

2413
02:03:30,360 --> 02:03:32,560
Speaker 3: I know, I'm just putting that out there. No, I know,

2414
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Speaker 3: like that's point zero one two five. Honest to god,

2415
02:03:35,840 --> 02:03:39,360
Speaker 3: I was shocked. I really was. You probably go to

2416
02:03:39,400 --> 02:03:44,200
Speaker 3: fifteen jerseys in Columbus too. You see jerseys. You see

2417
02:03:44,480 --> 02:03:47,320
Speaker 3: maybe people were asked to wear black and that was

2418
02:03:47,360 --> 02:03:48,560
Speaker 3: the only black shirt they had.

2419
02:03:48,640 --> 02:03:52,640
Speaker 2: Well, the one guy was not wearing black, and he

2420
02:03:52,760 --> 02:03:55,960
Speaker 2: was he was trying to stand out, all right. There

2421
02:03:56,000 --> 02:03:58,160
Speaker 2: was a decent amount of Arizona fans there too. There

2422
02:03:58,240 --> 02:04:00,280
Speaker 2: was they travel well, which that's the story play they

2423
02:04:00,280 --> 02:04:02,920
Speaker 2: always do. I think if I was a fan of

2424
02:04:02,960 --> 02:04:06,160
Speaker 2: another Big twelve team like Nippert would be on my bucket.

2425
02:04:06,160 --> 02:04:08,880
Speaker 2: Cincinnati would be a that's cool. I would like to come. Absolutely.

2426
02:04:09,840 --> 02:04:11,200
Speaker 3: I'll tell you a place A lot of people would

2427
02:04:11,200 --> 02:04:14,360
Speaker 3: like to go to, Oakley Greens. Moulagger's posted up there

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Speaker 3: right now. We'll go to him next. Posted on ESPN

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Speaker 3: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 20: Hey It's it's time for Cincy three sixty Quick Hits fifteenth.

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Speaker 3: They're looking for We found Moy's at Oakley Greens. The

2432
02:04:28,240 --> 02:04:32,040
Speaker 3: weather outside may be frightful, but Oakley Greens inside, I'm

2433
02:04:32,040 --> 02:04:34,760
Speaker 3: sure is delightful. Moe's there right now, Mo, what's happening.

2434
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Speaker 13: Well, we're getting ready for a show. This is going

2435
02:04:37,560 --> 02:04:40,000
Speaker 13: to be a short show. We're done at five o'clock today. Wow,

2436
02:04:40,320 --> 02:04:42,520
Speaker 13: the UK basketball pre game show is going to bump

2437
02:04:42,640 --> 02:04:44,840
Speaker 13: us out of the way in our early Kentucky and

2438
02:04:44,880 --> 02:04:47,720
Speaker 13: Michigan State in the Champions Classic at the home of

2439
02:04:47,720 --> 02:04:50,800
Speaker 13: the Knicks, Madison Square Garden. But we're doing something special

2440
02:04:50,800 --> 02:04:53,440
Speaker 13: today here at Oakley Greens. You know, it's it's the

2441
02:04:53,440 --> 02:04:56,320
Speaker 13: week before Thanksgiving. Folks are getting into that festive mood.

2442
02:04:57,120 --> 02:04:59,680
Speaker 13: And so if you come to Oakley Greens and if

2443
02:04:59,720 --> 02:05:03,200
Speaker 13: you were overserved, our producer today, Drew wester Heidi, has

2444
02:05:03,200 --> 02:05:06,480
Speaker 13: offered to drive people home. And what he has told

2445
02:05:06,480 --> 02:05:08,920
Speaker 13: me is tell folks don't call an uber, instead call

2446
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Speaker 13: a Druber.

2447
02:05:10,200 --> 02:05:13,080
Speaker 3: If I stop buying to say hello today, will Drew

2448
02:05:13,120 --> 02:05:13,840
Speaker 3: park my car?

2449
02:05:15,760 --> 02:05:17,000
Speaker 13: I don't know if we're doing that.

2450
02:05:17,600 --> 02:05:21,960
Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, knee, I've got this thing going on with

2451
02:05:22,000 --> 02:05:22,440
Speaker 2: my knee.

2452
02:05:22,480 --> 02:05:25,520
Speaker 13: So five dollars valet plus a tid. Can I chime

2453
02:05:25,520 --> 02:05:28,360
Speaker 13: in on your Hunter Green conversation please that you guys

2454
02:05:28,360 --> 02:05:32,800
Speaker 13: were having. I think there is this belief that is

2455
02:05:33,320 --> 02:05:37,480
Speaker 13: I think I think it's a misnomer that the Reds

2456
02:05:37,520 --> 02:05:41,400
Speaker 13: have like this overabundance of starting pitching, which allows them

2457
02:05:41,440 --> 02:05:44,960
Speaker 13: to just trade away all of their established pictures. At

2458
02:05:44,960 --> 02:05:46,240
Speaker 13: the end of the year, they were kind of like

2459
02:05:46,320 --> 02:05:47,920
Speaker 13: running out of guys they had to go trade for

2460
02:05:48,040 --> 02:05:52,080
Speaker 13: Zach Lttel. I think there's this belief that, like they

2461
02:05:52,120 --> 02:05:54,920
Speaker 13: have so many pictures that they could just give away Nicolodola,

2462
02:05:55,000 --> 02:05:58,920
Speaker 13: or give away Hunter Green, or like I know nobody

2463
02:05:58,960 --> 02:06:01,760
Speaker 13: wants to give those guys. Number One, all I hear

2464
02:06:01,880 --> 02:06:05,000
Speaker 13: is you can never have enough starting pitching. Okay, well good,

2465
02:06:05,040 --> 02:06:08,440
Speaker 13: then don't just trade away dudes. Number two. I'm not

2466
02:06:08,480 --> 02:06:11,880
Speaker 13: sure they have enough established starting pitchers for them to

2467
02:06:11,920 --> 02:06:15,000
Speaker 13: be cavalier about moving on from guys who are proven,

2468
02:06:15,240 --> 02:06:18,600
Speaker 13: whether that's Hunter Green or Andrew Abbott or Nicko Littolo

2469
02:06:18,920 --> 02:06:19,680
Speaker 13: or anybody else.

2470
02:06:20,600 --> 02:06:21,880
Speaker 3: What are you gout coming up on the show today?

2471
02:06:21,880 --> 02:06:24,440
Speaker 3: Outside of some Hunter Green might just talk about that

2472
02:06:24,480 --> 02:06:25,040
Speaker 3: for a few hours.

2473
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Speaker 2: I like this.

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Speaker 13: Paul Danner Junior is gonna be here. He has written

2475
02:06:29,640 --> 02:06:33,520
Speaker 13: in this sea of like bad takes about Jamar. Chase

2476
02:06:33,640 --> 02:06:38,480
Speaker 13: count on Paul Danner Junior to write the definitive, like, mature,

2477
02:06:39,000 --> 02:06:42,000
Speaker 13: sensible piece for the Athletic dot Com. Paul and I

2478
02:06:42,080 --> 02:06:43,800
Speaker 13: are gonna talk a little bit about Jamar, and then

2479
02:06:43,800 --> 02:06:46,680
Speaker 13: we're gonna talk about the team itself, Bengals getting ready

2480
02:06:46,720 --> 02:06:50,880
Speaker 13: to play the Patriots, a million different issues, Sean Sayatstat's

2481
02:06:52,160 --> 02:06:54,640
Speaker 13: or in the four o'clock hour, Taylor Twelveman's gonna call

2482
02:06:54,640 --> 02:06:56,800
Speaker 13: in at four forty five to look ahead to the

2483
02:06:56,800 --> 02:06:59,880
Speaker 13: Big tilt on Sunday. We're gonna spend some time on

2484
02:07:00,160 --> 02:07:02,400
Speaker 13: U see football. Not so much Ohios State fans being

2485
02:07:02,440 --> 02:07:08,040
Speaker 13: at the game. But I I this program right now,

2486
02:07:08,280 --> 02:07:11,400
Speaker 13: right now, is that a cross roads? The Scott Saderfield

2487
02:07:11,440 --> 02:07:13,920
Speaker 13: era is at a cross roads. This can now go

2488
02:07:13,960 --> 02:07:16,000
Speaker 13: one of two ways. They're not gonna win a Big

2489
02:07:16,040 --> 02:07:18,120
Speaker 13: twelve title. They're not gonna play in a Big twelve

2490
02:07:18,120 --> 02:07:20,520
Speaker 13: title game, but they have a chance to make people

2491
02:07:20,560 --> 02:07:22,480
Speaker 13: feel good about a nine to three season or make

2492
02:07:22,520 --> 02:07:26,240
Speaker 13: people feel like the program's identity is they melt down

2493
02:07:26,280 --> 02:07:28,320
Speaker 13: at the end of the season. So we're gonna spend

2494
02:07:28,360 --> 02:07:30,480
Speaker 13: some time on that as well, and then I will

2495
02:07:30,480 --> 02:07:32,480
Speaker 13: do I will do one segment on my own on

2496
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Speaker 13: Jamar Chase.

2497
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Speaker 3: Are you gonna do anything about UC Louisville Friday Night

2498
02:07:36,160 --> 02:07:36,760
Speaker 3: or any guests or.

2499
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Speaker 2: Anything tomorrow on the show?

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Speaker 13: Oh, Wes Miller, Wow, the coach of the Bearcats and

2501
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Speaker 13: John Cunningham. Unbelievable Bearcats will be He is supposed to

2502
02:07:47,520 --> 02:07:48,600
Speaker 13: be on my show tomorrow.

2503
02:07:48,760 --> 02:07:50,600
Speaker 2: Unbelievable Because what I am gonna.

2504
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Speaker 13: Do Wes Miller is having a press conference at eleven o'clock.

2505
02:07:54,000 --> 02:07:56,120
Speaker 13: I am gonna go to this press conference and I

2506
02:07:56,120 --> 02:07:58,760
Speaker 13: am gonna pull him aside and say, Coach, we need

2507
02:07:58,800 --> 02:08:02,120
Speaker 13: to talk about this UC for versus Louisville game, and uh,

2508
02:08:02,280 --> 02:08:04,160
Speaker 13: I need you to talk with me about it. And

2509
02:08:04,240 --> 02:08:06,200
Speaker 13: so Wes and I are going to do that tomorrow

2510
02:08:06,400 --> 02:08:09,320
Speaker 13: and then hopefully because I don't want there to be

2511
02:08:09,400 --> 02:08:12,240
Speaker 13: like more Louisville fans than Cincinnati fans. You can't have that.

2512
02:08:13,160 --> 02:08:15,000
Speaker 13: So I don't tell people what to do with their

2513
02:08:15,040 --> 02:08:16,920
Speaker 13: free time and money. This is one of min This

2514
02:08:16,960 --> 02:08:19,600
Speaker 13: is one of my core beliefs. I don't tell people

2515
02:08:19,600 --> 02:08:21,240
Speaker 13: what to do with their time and money unless I'm

2516
02:08:21,280 --> 02:08:23,880
Speaker 13: being paid to, but I don't. I don't want to

2517
02:08:23,920 --> 02:08:27,640
Speaker 13: hear see a r I we need more Bearcat fans

2518
02:08:27,640 --> 02:08:29,920
Speaker 13: and Louisville fans, and so what I am anticipating is

2519
02:08:30,120 --> 02:08:33,200
Speaker 13: once I have Wes tomorrow, fans are gonna go. You

2520
02:08:33,240 --> 02:08:35,240
Speaker 13: know what, I'm gonna go see his team upset the

2521
02:08:35,280 --> 02:08:36,440
Speaker 13: Louisville Cardinals downtown.

2522
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Speaker 3: Makes sense, makes perfect sense, Jamar Chase, do you do

2523
02:08:40,640 --> 02:08:43,520
Speaker 3: you appreciate the appeal in saying that if I really

2524
02:08:43,520 --> 02:08:45,120
Speaker 3: wanted to spit, I would have been able to spit

2525
02:08:45,160 --> 02:08:48,240
Speaker 3: on his face? Is that Do you think that appeal

2526
02:08:48,720 --> 02:08:49,440
Speaker 3: carries anyway?

2527
02:08:50,720 --> 02:08:50,800
Speaker 16: No?

2528
02:08:51,320 --> 02:08:54,480
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think the I think the broader appeal is

2529
02:08:55,040 --> 02:08:57,839
Speaker 13: there's never been a case like this where a player, yeah,

2530
02:08:58,120 --> 02:09:03,480
Speaker 13: has been suspended definitively for a game. Jalen Carter didn't.

2531
02:09:03,520 --> 02:09:06,680
Speaker 13: He was ejected, but he technically wasn't suspended, so they

2532
02:09:06,720 --> 02:09:10,920
Speaker 13: said time served. He's gonna get a one game suspension.

2533
02:09:11,440 --> 02:09:13,880
Speaker 13: What I want to know is who takes his place?

2534
02:09:15,960 --> 02:09:18,480
Speaker 13: It's gonna be Jermaine Burton. Who it's gonna be Jermaine

2535
02:09:18,480 --> 02:09:20,440
Speaker 13: Burton diving into that playbook, going you know what I

2536
02:09:20,480 --> 02:09:22,640
Speaker 13: can be count I'm gonna show up on time.

2537
02:09:22,680 --> 02:09:25,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be there. I'm gonna know which routes to run.

2538
02:09:25,520 --> 02:09:28,200
Speaker 13: I'm gonna stay awake in the meetings, and Joe Flacco

2539
02:09:28,400 --> 02:09:30,680
Speaker 13: or Jake Browning or whoever's playing quarterback for the Bengals

2540
02:09:30,680 --> 02:09:34,280
Speaker 13: on Sunday can rely on me or should they try?

2541
02:09:34,320 --> 02:09:36,440
Speaker 13: Geno's don't at wide receiver because he can't play safe.

2542
02:09:36,520 --> 02:09:40,000
Speaker 13: I don't know, but no, the the idea of, well,

2543
02:09:40,640 --> 02:09:42,560
Speaker 13: you know, if I really meant to spin on him,

2544
02:09:42,560 --> 02:09:45,120
Speaker 13: I would have spit in his face. Jamar, Come on, man,

2545
02:09:45,280 --> 02:09:48,320
Speaker 13: I love you, but dude, just you spit. You got caught,

2546
02:09:48,480 --> 02:09:50,400
Speaker 13: take your punishment, pay your fine.

2547
02:09:50,680 --> 02:09:50,960
Speaker 2: Move on.

2548
02:09:51,160 --> 02:09:51,240
Speaker 15: Mo.

2549
02:09:51,400 --> 02:09:53,520
Speaker 2: I put up a poll question that asked if Trey

2550
02:09:53,560 --> 02:09:57,800
Speaker 2: Hendrickson would play again this season. Eighty three percent said no.

2551
02:09:58,120 --> 02:10:00,520
Speaker 2: Where do you stand on Trey Henderson in his future

2552
02:10:00,520 --> 02:10:01,120
Speaker 2: with the Bengals?

2553
02:10:02,360 --> 02:10:03,360
Speaker 27: Huh.

2554
02:10:03,600 --> 02:10:05,720
Speaker 2: It's one of the things I'm gonna ask Paul about.

2555
02:10:05,840 --> 02:10:09,080
Speaker 3: And it's weird because, like, like what we talked about

2556
02:10:09,080 --> 02:10:11,760
Speaker 3: this yesterday, Like Zach Taylor is never one to like

2557
02:10:11,880 --> 02:10:14,800
Speaker 3: openly rule someone out on a Monday press conference, and

2558
02:10:14,800 --> 02:10:16,640
Speaker 3: for the last two weeks it's been well, he's doubtful.

2559
02:10:16,920 --> 02:10:17,760
Speaker 2: It's just been odd.

2560
02:10:17,920 --> 02:10:21,040
Speaker 13: He's doubtful, but he's weak to week, but he might

2561
02:10:21,080 --> 02:10:24,640
Speaker 13: have surgery. He's a captain, but he's not going to Pittsburgh.

2562
02:10:24,720 --> 02:10:27,240
Speaker 13: He's writing the kids book now, which is admirable. Like

2563
02:10:27,280 --> 02:10:30,720
Speaker 13: there's there's just a lot of weirdness. I'm gonna guess

2564
02:10:30,920 --> 02:10:35,560
Speaker 13: the answer is no. But there's still seven games to go.

2565
02:10:35,760 --> 02:10:38,080
Speaker 13: It feels like it feels like, you know, they got

2566
02:10:38,120 --> 02:10:40,640
Speaker 13: to play two more games and then this hell escape

2567
02:10:40,680 --> 02:10:43,080
Speaker 13: of a season could be over. There's seven more games

2568
02:10:43,080 --> 02:10:47,280
Speaker 13: to go. At some point, I think he's gonna want

2569
02:10:47,280 --> 02:10:49,240
Speaker 13: to prove that he's healthy because he's about to hit

2570
02:10:49,280 --> 02:10:49,839
Speaker 13: free agency.

2571
02:10:50,000 --> 02:10:50,520
Speaker 2: M hm.

2572
02:10:50,520 --> 02:10:54,120
Speaker 13: And so does he view it as I undermine my

2573
02:10:54,240 --> 02:10:58,960
Speaker 13: asking price if I finish the season not healthy. Also,

2574
02:10:59,080 --> 02:11:00,640
Speaker 13: he might need surgery at the end of the year.

2575
02:11:01,000 --> 02:11:03,160
Speaker 13: And so if he's told you need surgery, doesn't I

2576
02:11:03,200 --> 02:11:07,400
Speaker 13: don't know, man, that the Trey Hendrickson experience can be

2577
02:11:07,440 --> 02:11:09,440
Speaker 13: described a lot of different ways. Right now, I would

2578
02:11:09,440 --> 02:11:11,880
Speaker 13: go with weird. I'll guess he doesn't play because the

2579
02:11:11,920 --> 02:11:15,360
Speaker 13: season is going nowhere. But man, with Trey, like nothing

2580
02:11:15,400 --> 02:11:18,000
Speaker 13: would surprise you, Like it wouldn't surprise you if he

2581
02:11:18,040 --> 02:11:20,480
Speaker 13: doesn't play and he's rolled out, but he still puts

2582
02:11:20,520 --> 02:11:23,560
Speaker 13: the uniform on and stands on the sideline. It wouldn't

2583
02:11:23,600 --> 02:11:26,400
Speaker 13: surprise you if, like, he doesn't play, but he sits

2584
02:11:26,400 --> 02:11:29,080
Speaker 13: in the stands and he wears like Tennessee Titans gear,

2585
02:11:29,160 --> 02:11:32,640
Speaker 13: Like I mean literally, no, it wouldn't surprise me if

2586
02:11:32,680 --> 02:11:34,600
Speaker 13: he's like, yeah, I'm gonna play and then he shows

2587
02:11:34,680 --> 02:11:37,320
Speaker 13: up and doesn't have his helmet on, Like no, No,

2588
02:11:37,520 --> 02:11:41,120
Speaker 13: outcome with Trey Hendrickson would be surprising. So I don't

2589
02:11:41,160 --> 02:11:42,480
Speaker 13: want this to end by the way I want them

2590
02:11:42,480 --> 02:11:45,440
Speaker 13: the franchise tag him because I'm not. I still have topics,

2591
02:11:45,480 --> 02:11:47,680
Speaker 13: I still have things I want to say about Trey Hendrickson.

2592
02:11:47,800 --> 02:11:50,320
Speaker 13: I don't I can't end this, Okay. You know it's

2593
02:11:50,360 --> 02:11:52,280
Speaker 13: kind of like a like a weird relationship that you're

2594
02:11:52,280 --> 02:11:54,440
Speaker 13: in where you know, deep down inside it's probably time

2595
02:11:54,480 --> 02:11:56,400
Speaker 13: to move on. But then there's things about it and

2596
02:11:56,440 --> 02:11:58,400
Speaker 13: you're like, I just can't quit them. You know, those

2597
02:11:58,440 --> 02:12:00,800
Speaker 13: crazy operas aren't kind of entertain That's kind of how

2598
02:12:00,800 --> 02:12:01,280
Speaker 13: I feel.

2599
02:12:01,080 --> 02:12:02,440
Speaker 2: About it today. This is it.

2600
02:12:03,360 --> 02:12:07,440
Speaker 3: Finally Mo his twelfth place MVP season in twenty thirteen,

2601
02:12:08,200 --> 02:12:10,080
Speaker 3: where he hit twenty one home runs and batted two

2602
02:12:10,120 --> 02:12:12,560
Speaker 3: eighty five the loan year in Cincinnati. Is that enough

2603
02:12:12,600 --> 02:12:15,160
Speaker 3: to make Shin Sue Chew a Hall of Famer?

2604
02:12:18,120 --> 02:12:18,200
Speaker 37: No?

2605
02:12:18,600 --> 02:12:19,520
Speaker 2: Is he on your ballot?

2606
02:12:19,520 --> 02:12:19,600
Speaker 26: No?

2607
02:12:19,760 --> 02:12:20,800
Speaker 2: Are you voting him in.

2608
02:12:21,760 --> 02:12:22,720
Speaker 11: To be in the Hall of Fame?

2609
02:12:22,880 --> 02:12:25,680
Speaker 13: Yes, I haven't really looked at the new class. Is

2610
02:12:25,720 --> 02:12:28,000
Speaker 13: there anybody who's like a slam dunk first ballot Hall

2611
02:12:28,000 --> 02:12:28,280
Speaker 13: of Famer?

2612
02:12:28,360 --> 02:12:34,080
Speaker 2: On it? It ancient suit Chew. No, Austin, did you

2613
02:12:34,120 --> 02:12:36,320
Speaker 2: think of anybody Carlos Beltround to me?

2614
02:12:38,160 --> 02:12:42,200
Speaker 13: Agreed Cole Hamils and is un. I'd have to look

2615
02:12:42,200 --> 02:12:44,200
Speaker 13: at the numbers. Yeah, Cole Hamil's pitched one of the

2616
02:12:44,200 --> 02:12:47,480
Speaker 13: best postseason games of all time Ryan Brown in Game three.

2617
02:12:48,680 --> 02:12:51,080
Speaker 13: Uh No, and not because of the steroids, just that

2618
02:12:51,240 --> 02:12:53,240
Speaker 13: the overall body of work is not Hall of Fame worthy.

2619
02:12:53,280 --> 02:12:55,480
Speaker 13: I think Carlos Beltrans is, and I think he's it's

2620
02:12:55,560 --> 02:12:59,879
Speaker 13: unfairly used against him. The whole sign stealing thing in Houston.

2621
02:13:00,200 --> 02:13:02,960
Speaker 13: Shin su Chow, though, was fascinating that one year here. Man,

2622
02:13:03,000 --> 02:13:06,280
Speaker 13: he was awesome, And what I remember was when they

2623
02:13:06,280 --> 02:13:08,080
Speaker 13: didn't bring him back, It's like, what do you got

2624
02:13:08,080 --> 02:13:09,640
Speaker 13: for Shin suit Chu? What are you gonna do to

2625
02:13:09,680 --> 02:13:13,000
Speaker 13: replace him, like we've got Billy Hamilton. Yeah, okay, but

2626
02:13:13,040 --> 02:13:16,320
Speaker 13: he can't hit, can he? Well he's really fast, Yeah,

2627
02:13:16,360 --> 02:13:19,480
Speaker 13: but he can't hit. No, but he's really fast. Yeah,

2628
02:13:19,480 --> 02:13:23,360
Speaker 13: I know, but he can't hit. Canny, he's really I nobody,

2629
02:13:23,680 --> 02:13:26,520
Speaker 13: Like he's not a good offensive player, Like he's never hit.

2630
02:13:26,680 --> 02:13:28,960
Speaker 13: So you're gonna replace like the best leadoff hittering the

2631
02:13:28,960 --> 02:13:30,920
Speaker 13: sport with the guy who can't hit. Yeah, because he's

2632
02:13:30,960 --> 02:13:34,360
Speaker 13: really fast. And it just went round and around for years.

2633
02:13:34,600 --> 02:13:39,880
Speaker 2: Yeh's still going on. What about another former red Matt Camp.

2634
02:13:41,760 --> 02:13:43,600
Speaker 13: He's in the Hall of Fame as I'm concerned for

2635
02:13:43,960 --> 02:13:44,720
Speaker 13: dating Rihanna.

2636
02:13:44,920 --> 02:13:48,840
Speaker 2: Okay, well that's that's it. We're done. We have a

2637
02:13:48,840 --> 02:13:51,520
Speaker 2: great show. Tell Drew I'll be there soon.

2638
02:13:52,240 --> 02:13:56,200
Speaker 13: Drew, he's the the Drew ber Drew takes. Do you

2639
02:13:56,240 --> 02:14:01,520
Speaker 13: take Venmo for parking cars? Venmo cash? Yeah, okay, five

2640
02:14:01,560 --> 02:14:05,960
Speaker 13: dollars plus a tip to Vala can't wait microphone on.

2641
02:14:06,000 --> 02:14:07,720
Speaker 13: He's trying to be a great show.

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02:14:08,640 --> 02:14:09,320
Speaker 2: I can't wait.

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Speaker 3: What's next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Have

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02:14:13,160 --> 02:14:16,000
Speaker 3: a great rest of your Tuesday afternoon.

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