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Speaker 1: The obligatory Kevin Faulness Minnesota Wild mention.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not a game exactly, want to remember fondly, the.

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Speaker 3: Disappointing loss for a team that hasn't had many of

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Speaker 3: Winner, Tom was a puck that came in for long

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Speaker 3: range that gave Gussison trouble. I don't know if it

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Speaker 4: Is the wildfall six to three in Tampa. And to

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if you're a box score reader, it looks like

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Speaker 5: in my opinion, that got away losers in Tampa sixty

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so and that and there's fairness and savagery. That's fair.

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Speaker 2: to take a stand and I just don't that code.

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Speaker 5: The latest injury report I see is Ioasumu questionable with

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Speaker 5: Minneapolis applying to host the NFL Draft, But I want

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Speaker 5: Richie Garcia. He's a former umpire. Yeah, remember than he's

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Speaker 5: Good is that I'm the umpire and I know all

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Speaker 2: It's just can you argue with them?

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Speaker 2: How can you argue with him? The umpires bald strike

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Speaker 5: It's always a great bit of the state affair. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: And then the number of times where oh it's a

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Speaker 2: there's any question. But he might be able to get

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Speaker 2: the draft because Green Bay you you had it right,

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Speaker 2: I'll change everything. Indianapolis has had it right, they have everything.

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Speaker 2: down for three days as we talked about it. That

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Speaker 2: clearly done as a society material, that's for sure. But

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Speaker 2: we're in the mix. I don't know how many do

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Speaker 2: we know? Does the story indicate how many are vying

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Speaker 2: While we were in the mix. Yeah we tried, you know,

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Speaker 5: Some great shows to grant be cause you know Arena

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Speaker 2: Flim Flamm is very unhappy with your top five at

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Speaker 4: I did nothing wrong at the Minneapolis Airport.

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Speaker 2: Senator was so god and now to help Dan break

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Speaker 2: On a fan here's your toss up questions. Oh, here

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Speaker 2: You ready, This is from your buddy Marty out of Richfield.

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Speaker 2: There's something maddening to me about a communicator, whether you're

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Speaker 2: a mind on him on the Arrow that much. And

434
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Speaker 2: the first few times I did, You're going, well, where's

435
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 2: this going? I mean, he seems so deadpan. Is anybody

436
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 2: getting anything out of this? But then you have this

437
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 2: tipping point where I go, no, that's the bit with Bream.

438
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 2: He's not bored, but he's understated and he is deadpan.

439
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 2: That's what he does. And now I love it about

440
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 2: him because he describes it well. He almost does come

441
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 2: across as Okay, I can't wait for this to be over,

442
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 2: even though it's the furthest thing from the truth. He

443
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 2: just stayed on for another hour.

444
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 4: Well number one, many of us feel that way. That's

445
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 4: number one. Yes, But with Bream, what I noticed when

446
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,959
Speaker 4: when you're interviewing him, he is very measured and and

447
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 4: he waits that you hear after you ask a question, yes,

448
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 4: there's like a one yes, there's a couple of three

449
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 4: second pause and like he's really considering what he's going

450
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 4: to say, so ay delays.

451
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 2: He's a little like Chris Carter in that you think

452
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 2: he's done with his six sentences, you got to sort

453
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,360
Speaker 2: of wait an extra beat, which creates some silence because

454
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 2: he's still got something else he's going to say. But

455
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 2: he's not going to rush to get there.

456
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're on my time now, Yes, you asked

457
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 4: the question. So circling back then to Springsteen and No Kings,

458
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 4: he's going to be here for No Kings. I'm not

459
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 4: gonna lie. I thought about going to New No Kings

460
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 4: just so I could see Springsteen perform, and I know

461
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 4: you would go because you're kind of a folky with

462
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 4: Joan Baez.

463
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. And did you say, Hanoy Jane's going

464
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 2: to be there? Is that true?

465
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 4: Remember that Jane Jane Fonda, your gal looking great at

466
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 4: eighty plus years old? And how old is Joan Bayez?

467
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 4: She's got to be eighty something.

468
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 2: You got to be close to ninety, doesn't she.

469
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 4: We'll look it up. Yeah, I mean, but she's going

470
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 4: to sing there. But he's all fired up, he is

471
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 4: ready to go. That's true Springsteen, as he told John

472
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 4: Breem in that interview, again really interesting interview with talking

473
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 4: to talking about Springsteen, he said that playing his Streets

474
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 4: of Minneapolis protest song at First Avenue with Tom Morello

475
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 4: was the most meaningful concert he's ever played. He said

476
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 4: a shot to the top that is you like us,

477
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 4: you really really like us. That was really cool to me.

478
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 2: By the way, there's a lot of Dylan disparaging going on.

479
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 4: No, now that's uncalled for.

480
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 2: Here's seven sixth three. Guys, you guys are still talking

481
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 2: about Dylan. He's never been able to sing. Here's another

482
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 2: seven sixth three. It's the same one. Actually, you know,

483
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 2: if not the were singers ever in history record of music. Now,

484
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 2: that's that's demonstrably false, even on the basis of taste.

485
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 2: It's demonstrably fat. But you know what it is. Here's

486
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 2: what it is. It's it's some people evaluate singers on

487
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 2: a technical level. Right, Neil Young, I mean, Neil Young

488
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 2: has this cracked voice, just raw, but no one would

489
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 2: call it like soaring beautiful. But it's effective. And I

490
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,719
Speaker 2: think for a lot of people they evalue and Dylan

491
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 2: is quirky, he's got his own style. He doesn't sound

492
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 2: like Sinatra, right, He's not Michaeka Mablay come on. But

493
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 2: I think that's for people who evaluate in that technical sense,

494
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 2: as opposed to does he emote? What do you get

495
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 2: out of it is. There is there a style to

496
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 2: what he does that he makes all his own, regardless

497
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 2: of the notes that he hits or can't hit.

498
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 4: And the words that he writes are literature. Yeah, come on, people,

499
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 4: I mean he won the Nobel Prize for literature, which

500
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 4: is an amazing feet and he has for poetry, he

501
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 4: has some of the best poetry of the modern age.

502
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 4: So I'm sorry. I love Dylan, was disappointed with him,

503
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 4: and now I have to make the decision. If me

504
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 4: and seven to six three guy, who's the guy who

505
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 4: wants to go to with me?

506
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: I can't remember the name?

507
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, So I mean you want to go with me,

508
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 4: I'll go.

509
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 2: You know when Kessler says he saw Dylan without lights,

510
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: is that because there was no electricity back then? Wow?

511
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 2: That's a shot.

512
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 4: Wow.

513
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 2: When I saw this is Larry Mondelo guy, When I

514
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 2: saw Dylan at Farm Made, I was convinced that it

515
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 2: was actually the unibomber pretending to be Dylan.

516
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 4: Well how about that? Well that's really the advice is

517
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 4: that the big did That's the bit, very funny, Larry

518
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 4: Mondelo guy.

519
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 2: Joan Biez is eighty five, Jamie Fonda is eighty eight,

520
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:48,360
Speaker 2: So Fonda is old.

521
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 4: That's incredible, which is interesting. Well, sees no, Joe Biden,

522
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 4: I'm going to say that.

523
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 2: This this is going to really annoy you.

524
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 4: Okay.

525
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 2: If Dylan was not one of us, we would never

526
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 2: mention his name, especially at eighty four years old.

527
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 4: I know that one of our listeners is saying that, then, sir,

528
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 4: I reject your statement. I reject your statement. Yeah. I mean,

529
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 4: Dylan is iconic. He is part of our generation. He's

530
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 4: the fabric of American cultural life for the last seventy years.

531
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 4: So he has really dictated tastes and music and how

532
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 4: we write and how we perform, and to be honest,

533
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 4: how stars quote unquote how rock stars act.

534
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 2: And he doesn't give it. You know what, he didn't care,

535
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: Well I did. We talked about this with Breema. I

536
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 2: liked his answer about blowback. He said, I'm going to

537
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 2: do what I'm going to do, and then the folks

538
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:49,959
Speaker 2: who want to react to me good or bad can

539
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: do what everything.

540
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 4: Well.

541
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 2: I like that. Yeah, So I'm sure that's the deal.

542
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 2: He's not I say something, yeah, and you respond to me,

543
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 2: you can't go ahead or whatever you want to do,

544
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 2: hammer me, make fun of me. Love me whatever, whatever

545
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 2: the case may be.

546
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 4: So he's going to be here for this big thing,

547
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 4: and I believe that this could be one of the

548
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 4: biggest gatherings, one of the biggest protest gatherings that Minnesota

549
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 4: has seen. Certainly when we had fifty thousand people marching

550
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 4: in downtown Minneapolis on January eighth, when it was twenty

551
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 4: frickin below zero, that was a sight to behold. I

552
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 4: have a feeling that this is going to rival that

553
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 4: We'll see how it goes at the State Captain.

554
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 2: Doctor Mike writes to you, I'd recommend you should switch

555
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 2: to Springsteen. Obviously has similarities with Dylan, but Bruce is

556
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 2: the anti Dylan when it comes to putting on a show,

557
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: love and respecting his fans. He still puts the band

558
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: together before every show to remind them how much people

559
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 2: have paid to see them, and so they must be

560
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 2: at their very best. Springsteen fandom is a great place

561
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: to be, and it gets better and better.

562
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 4: I'm a big Springsteen fan. I can't argue with any

563
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 4: of that, absolutely, and I completely agree.

564
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,719
Speaker 2: I'm not religious about his music. I like it religious,

565
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 2: but I have always respected I think I've seen him

566
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 2: twice maybe maybe three times is no matter what generation,

567
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: you know, whatever decade we're talking about here, he works it.

568
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 2: I mean he you know, there's so much get your

569
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 2: money frustration and complaints about load management in the NBA

570
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 2: and didn't show up. Whatever the case may be. You

571
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: can't but help, I think, but admire the guy seemingly

572
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 2: giving pretty much everything he's got to give every night. Right,

573
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: three hour concerts on a regular basis. I think he

574
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 2: still does that. I mean what he say about whatever

575
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 2: the event is, whether it's a sporting event or a concert,

576
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 2: whatever is, just try to give me my money. Just

577
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 2: make me feel like you care about the fact that

578
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 2: I spent my money to be here. Right, that's the

579
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 2: ultimate compliment.

580
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 4: I have seen him many times and there has never

581
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 4: been a bad show ever. And with Dylan, I've seen

582
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 4: him also many times. Sounds like there's been several bad shows. Well,

583
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 4: you know, it's just that he doesn't care if you're

584
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 4: there or not. That's kind of how I act sometimes,

585
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 4: you know, he disregards the audience.

586
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 2: That's what's interesting because you can make the argument that

587
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 2: that's part of what allows Dylan to be Dylan. But

588
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 2: I gotta believe on performance night. It's not something to

589
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 2: be proud of. Because my comeback with then to Dylan

590
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 2: would be, don't perform in front of people. Just don't perform.

591
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 2: If if it's so hard for you to acknowledge that

592
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 2: they're out there, don't just don't have the show.

593
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I gently pushed back on that in

594
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 4: that he performs in his own way and the way

595
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 4: he performs the songs are fantastic, they're beautiful. He just

596
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 4: doesn't acknowledge that that I'm sitting in the audience. Well

597
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 4: you're to say thank you everybody for coming that.

598
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about

599
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 2: what you said is if he can't be heard.

600
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's recent. That's absolutely recent. Sorry, that's that's

601
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 4: not that's not agree with. That's not like all that

602
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,479
Speaker 4: makes him a character. No it doesn't. It's it's kind

603
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 4: of giving the not caught. You know, I'm caught. I'm

604
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 4: boxed because I can't get up and walk out because

605
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 4: he's my lifetime hero. So what am I supposed to do?

606
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 2: You know, I too enjoy bream uh like his unorthodox,

607
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: measured style, not unlike a Bill garn interview. That's Scott

608
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 2: from Minneapolis. If I wanted literature, I'd read and read.

609
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: I don't wait f in poem.

610
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 4: I read a freaking poem.

611
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: Oh I see.

612
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 4: I mean, dude, yeah, lady, whoever you are, you know

613
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 4: this is read a book. Uh. Songs music can be literature.

614
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 4: Also it can be poetry. I mean, I know Kid

615
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 4: Rock who's holding an alternate uh instead of No Kings

616
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 4: Many Kings rally?

617
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 2: You know?

618
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 4: Is that poetry? Well, I'm just asking.

619
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Speaker 2: I don't. Maybe it's my cup of tea, but I'm

620
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: not gonna I love I love some of Kid Rocks music. Yeah,

621
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 2: what I would say is, I'm not I don't like

622
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 2: this selective idea that you can be political as long

623
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 2: as you're offering the sentiment that I'm looking for.

624
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 4: Got it.

625
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 2: I don't think that's very I didn't mean to go.

626
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 4: Down that road. What what I was saying is that

627
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 4: sometimes when you've got somebody like a Springsteen, yes, that

628
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 4: is a different level of music.

629
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 2: There's no question and well, yeah, you're not going to get.

630
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 4: This with the Stones, with the rolling Stones, but it's

631
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 4: also an extremely entertaining.

632
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 2: But they're not trying. I don't think they're trying. To

633
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 2: do something.

634
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 4: But that's those people are trying. Kid Rock's not trying

635
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 4: to be political in his music. In the music, yeah, yeah,

636
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 4: he's not trying to be political.

637
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 2: Right, do we now give me the latest we have

638
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: on Iran in the In this regard my understanding is

639
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: the last headline I saw today said that Iran had

640
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:11,760
Speaker 2: rejected a fifteen point proposal that have been offered by

641
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 2: the Trump administration. Is there any can you put any

642
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 2: meat on those bones? I mean, where are we on that?

643
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 2: Was there a real proposal because there was even a debate,

644
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 2: but Trump saying we've been we're constantly negotiating, and then

645
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 2: whoever is in charge ostensibly in Iran saying, well, we

646
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 2: haven't heard had any conversations. But yet now they've rejected

647
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: a fifteen point piece plan, which would indicate there's been

648
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 2: at least been some back and forth. So where are

649
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Speaker 2: we on this story? Is it about? Is it about

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Speaker 2: to stay at the same level for a while? Is

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Speaker 2: it about to get smaller or is it about to

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Speaker 2: get bigger? Regarding these reports about it, what is it?

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Speaker 2: A thousand marines?

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Speaker 4: I think maybe another one thousand marines know in their way.

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Speaker 4: In addition, edition to just arriving. In addition, five thousand

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Speaker 4: who went a week or so ago. Well, let's say

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Speaker 4: that somebody is talking to somebody, and President Trump, as

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Speaker 4: per normal, is vak about this. But this sounds like

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Speaker 4: it is somebody in America talking to somebody in Pakistan

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Speaker 4: who is talking to someone who knows someone.

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Speaker 2: In Iran intermediaries.

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Speaker 4: Yes, so that's kind of where it is. The President

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Speaker 4: says that they have proposed a fifteen point proposal, a

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Speaker 4: plan for a ceasefire and ending the hostilities. But Iran

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Speaker 4: says that no or not, we're not talking to anybody.

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Speaker 4: So here's what's in the fifteen points that, according to

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Speaker 4: the reports, open up the Straight of Hormuz, immediately give

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Speaker 4: up all your nuclear material. Sign of things says we'll

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Speaker 4: never have a nuclear bomb. And those are just some

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Speaker 4: of them. Those are the big ones. Iran says, No,

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Speaker 4: I mean you started this. We can decide when it ends.

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Speaker 4: We will control the Strait of hor moves. We will

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Speaker 4: talk about future nuclear stuff, all the stuff they talked

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Speaker 4: about with Obama. That we'll talk about that, but there

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Speaker 4: must be an immediate ceasefire. Those are just somebody somewhere

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Speaker 4: is talking you gotta believe that's a good thing. We're

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Speaker 4: in what day are we in twenty five? I don't

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Speaker 4: even know anymore? Are we in day twenty five of this?

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Speaker 2: I think we're about three weeks excursion.

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Speaker 4: Of this kind of opper military operation. But don't call

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Speaker 4: it a war. Whatever it is. Somebody's talking somewhere, so

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Speaker 4: that's probably a good thing. But while they're talking, Israel

683
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Speaker 4: is still bombing the hell out of Lebanon and also

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Speaker 4: places in Iran. Iran is shooting missiles here and there,

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Speaker 4: and the United States will see what happens. President Trump

686
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Speaker 4: again today said that he's going to blow Iran up

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Speaker 4: in a way that nobody's ever seen before. So a

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Speaker 4: lot of bellicost language and action, but it sounds like

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Speaker 4: whispers of somebody doing something.

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Speaker 2: Not soon, though, And we don't know for sure whether

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Speaker 2: there is going to be a massive m not say massive,

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Speaker 2: even one thousand, two thousand soldiers on the ground. We

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Speaker 2: know that they're preparing, so can we assume something is

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Speaker 2: coming there or not? So much?

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Speaker 4: You don't know what to expect with President Trump. He's

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Speaker 4: kind of asymmetrical when it comes to you know, what

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Speaker 4: am I going to do next? It's unlike other military

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Speaker 4: commanders or commanders in chief of the United States. Usually

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Speaker 4: when the United States sends troop somewhere, it is to

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Speaker 4: put them on the ground and fight. In Trump's case,

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Speaker 4: it could be to pressure people to enter into diplomacy.

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Speaker 4: And maybe it'll work, who knows. But it's hard to

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Speaker 4: believe that this is going to end without some kind

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Speaker 4: of limited action, and maybe more than that with military,

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Speaker 4: with with the Marines, with other kinds of air people,

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Speaker 4: air men and women, on on ending up on the ground.

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Speaker 4: We just that's the way it looks like it's going.

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Speaker 2: All right, I run the risk of getting you into

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Speaker 2: trouble with this question again. I'm going to it wasn't

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Speaker 2: on your list, but I think and it's you could say,

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Speaker 2: by current standards it's ancient history, but it's not really

712
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Speaker 2: that long ago that the story broke on Bob Muller

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Speaker 2: passing away. I believe at the age of is it

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Speaker 2: eighty one years old.

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Speaker 4: Yes, eighty one years old.

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Speaker 2: For Saul Parkinson has been well established. The President of

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Speaker 2: the United States, showing unusual grace, basically said didn't basically say,

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Speaker 2: he said, good, good, glass gone.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad he's dead.

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Speaker 2: So the question on the table is, and we've talked

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Speaker 2: about this before over the years, we always talk about, well,

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Speaker 2: this is this, this is worse than ever or this.

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Speaker 2: Everything else pales in comparison. And this is the thing

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Speaker 2: that's gonna have an impact. Even among the people who

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Speaker 2: say President Trump is the greatest president ever, they're going

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Speaker 2: to notice that every other previous president, including at least

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Speaker 2: one Republican in w tried to be a little classier

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Speaker 2: in death in their descriptions, and and and and to

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Speaker 2: also talk about flesh out all of Mueller's career, not

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Speaker 2: just the part that affected this as current president. And

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm left with The reaction was almost like, well, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we we. I mean, this is a guy did start

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Speaker 2: with McCain. I mean the first one that I remember

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Speaker 2: was the McCain Yeah, well, I like my prisoners of

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Speaker 2: war don't get caught ever that John McCain, Yeah I don't.

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Speaker 2: And you could say ever since then this day was coming,

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Speaker 2: but did this one? Does none of it have any

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Speaker 2: impact anymore? Because it's just well that's that's the latest one,

739
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Speaker 2: and there'll be another one again tomorrow. So therefore we

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Speaker 2: don't even spend more than a minute saying what a

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Speaker 2: bad look it is for the president of the most

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Speaker 2: powerful nation in the country in the world to revel

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Speaker 2: in the death of an individual, whether he wants to

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Speaker 2: describe him as a rival or not, the death of

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Speaker 2: an individual is gone.

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Speaker 4: And he says, good, well, this is something you're right

747
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Speaker 4: that I think that has been coming for some time.

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Speaker 4: What's really shocking to me is that none of the

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Speaker 4: minions and mermidons of President Trump are calling him out

750
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Speaker 4: or saying this is ridiculous. So you can't talk this

751
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Speaker 4: way what this opens the door for And by the way,

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Speaker 4: I'm old enough to remember when the horrible, terrible Charlie

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Speaker 4: Kirk assassination, where the trumpet rustration, specifically Vice President Vance

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Speaker 4: was calling for people to be docked and called out

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Speaker 4: on social media and fired from their jobs because they

756
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Speaker 4: weren't sufficiently honoring Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 2: And there were people who were not only not honoring,

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Speaker 2: they were reveling.

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Speaker 4: In it astely.

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Speaker 2: So we're looking for here again as a little bit

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Speaker 2: of consistency, especially when it comes from the president, right,

762
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Speaker 2: not just your average roof on the internet.

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Speaker 4: So you raised the question, I mean, we knew it

764
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Speaker 4: was coming. How are we going to react when President Trump,

765
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Speaker 4: as we all do, passes from this earth. How are

766
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 4: we supposed to react? People have been really careful over

767
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Speaker 4: time not to react to the way President Trump reacts

768
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Speaker 4: to many different things, but particularly in person relationships, not

769
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Speaker 4: just people who died, people who quote unquote betray him,

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Speaker 4: people he consider traders, people who don't agree with him,

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Speaker 4: people who vote against him, his best friend Marjorie Taylor Green.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we just look at this, how it gets

773
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Speaker 4: so personal, so fast and gets so harsh. Do we

774
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Speaker 4: respond in kind when President Trump leaves us? I don't know.

775
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Speaker 4: I mean, what's it going to be like when Joe

776
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:33,479
Speaker 4: Biden goes or Barack Obama? I don't know. I don't

777
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Speaker 4: know the answer to this because we always thought, well,

778
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Speaker 4: this is the one that he will never get reelected again,

779
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 4: this is the one where he's gone too far. But

780
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Speaker 4: we have come to learn I believe there is no bottom.

781
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Speaker 4: There is no bottom, and so you say whatever you want. Well,

782
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Speaker 4: you know that's what he thinks. I give him credit

783
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Speaker 4: for a saying he's honest about it. He's honest. Yeah, Well,

784
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Speaker 4: the problem is he actually thinks this stuff. That's the problem.

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Speaker 4: So he's the president of the United States. He deserves

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Speaker 4: the honor that we should give to the office of president.

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Speaker 4: But man, oh man, are we getting it in return?

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Speaker 2: Well, but again I would argue, he disgraces that the

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Speaker 2: honor of the job when he lowers himself to that level. Again,

790
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Speaker 2: I'm not surprised, but I'm saying that's supposed to be

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Speaker 2: the point of that role, right, the responsibility that goes

792
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Speaker 2: along with it, And the fact that he still can't

793
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Speaker 2: help but scratch the same itches, regardless of the position

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Speaker 2: he's in.

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Speaker 4: Is that says something about a person. Yes, and yet

796
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Speaker 4: we are bound I believe to respect the institution of

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00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 4: the presidency of the United States, which is why it

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Speaker 4: makes it difficult to respond in kind to the person

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Speaker 4: who is the leader of our country, whether we like

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Speaker 4: it or not.

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Speaker 2: Let's make this the top of the hour. Pause. I've

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Speaker 2: got a couple of regional stories that I want to

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Speaker 2: get to. Is it possible? And We've asked Kessler this

804
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Speaker 2: I think twelve straight years, but I'm gonna ask him

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Speaker 2: for the thirteenth year. This is the legislative session in

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Speaker 2: which a gambling deal is going to get done. They

807
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Speaker 2: keep telling me. This time it's different. This time, it

808
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Speaker 2: feels like there's real momentum. We'll see if he agrees,

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Speaker 2: and get to a couple of other stories as well.

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Speaker 2: We were chatting much earlier in the program about the Vikings

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Speaker 2: confirming they are throwing this market into the market, hat

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Speaker 2: into the ringay to get the to secures the hope

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Speaker 2: being the host city of the twenty twenty eight National

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Speaker 2: Football League Draft. And I predicted that you would have

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Speaker 2: no difficulty or hesitation carrying the water yet again of

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Speaker 2: Lester Bagley and therefore really the Wilts Wow, that you

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Speaker 2: would be like, oh, this would be a great honor,

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Speaker 2: and Lester's anything we can do I can do to

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Speaker 2: help you grease the wheels along the way.

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Speaker 4: Well you did that with the stadium, No quit that.

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Speaker 2: Well you you admitted it on the stadium years later,

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Speaker 2: that's true.

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Speaker 4: Well, I had to tell yeah, I had to be

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Speaker 4: fair when I was reporting on it then. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean, this would be a tremendous thing for the statement.

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Speaker 2: Well it's okay now, mom, So do you subscribe to

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Speaker 2: what I love?

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Speaker 4: The draft?

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Speaker 2: Well? Do you subscribe to what the Pittsburgh market is doing?

835
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Speaker 2: The Pittsburgh school system? The draft this year is going

836
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Speaker 2: to be in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that's true.

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Speaker 2: They are closing public schools for three days. Well you

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Speaker 2: feel you comfortable with that? Well, we're supposed to be

840
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Speaker 2: an education state. I thought once upon a time.

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Speaker 4: Who is a better education state, Minnesota or Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I'm just going to ask them. Well, if I may

844
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Speaker 4: very gently and lovingly push back on that. Yeah, they're

845
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Speaker 4: not allowing the kids to go downtown because there are

846
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Speaker 4: going to be three quarters of a million people.

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Speaker 2: So then don't host it.

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Speaker 4: Nowadays, what we have is a.

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Speaker 2: Football So you're telling me an NFL draft hosting a

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Speaker 2: draft is more important than kids education?

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Speaker 4: Well you can. What they're doing is ordering mandating at

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Speaker 4: home online education.

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Speaker 2: Which means that there will be no education.

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Speaker 4: Well, come on, man, I mean, do you you know

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Speaker 4: we don't have snow days in Minnesota anymore?

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Speaker 2: We had one this year, So let's just cut to

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Speaker 2: the chase. You will endorse if that same edict needs

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Speaker 2: to be in effect in order for us to secure

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Speaker 2: the services of twenty twenty eight draft NFL Draft. You're

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Speaker 2: fine with sending the kids home.

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Speaker 4: To protect the children so that they don't have.

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Speaker 2: To go on the little bush, let's do all.

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Speaker 4: So I'm the drunken football fans downtown who are gonna

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Speaker 4: rock am. They're going to rock the bus am on

865
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Speaker 4: the back and forth that you know that Green Bay,

866
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 4: you know that, Well, they go hard.

867
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 2: That's why.

868
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you can't you can't believe you do

869
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 4: day drinking if.

870
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 2: You don't start in the stand for something and you're

871
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 2: you're you're more of a sports guy than I.

872
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 4: All right, or here's the thing. So yeah, I mean,

873
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 4: if you want to have at home learning, online learning,

874
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 4: I think as they're doing, I think it's probably a

875
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 4: good idea. But that's not what's going to happen here.

876
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 4: I'm really curious as to how this will play out.

877
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 4: So as we know, the Minnesota Vikings, the state of Minnesota,

878
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 4: the city of Minneapolis, they're all they're applying for the draft,

879
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 4: and I love the draft. How many do you watch

880
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 4: the Draft.

881
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: No, I don't, I Dan, I might watch part of

882
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: day one night one might that's it. I don't have one,

883
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 2: Daniel Burrera, I don't have one.

884
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 4: I am. I'm surprised.

885
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 2: But you watched maybe ten minutes.

886
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 4: I watched the whole thing.

887
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 2: Well you got time now I start.

888
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 4: No, all the time. I love the draft. So it's

889
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 4: a it's a. It's a it's a really big deal,

890
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 4: and I think it's for the state of Minnesota. It

891
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 4: would be pretty incredible. Uh, the economic impact is one

892
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 4: hundred to two hundred million dollars the Minnesota Sports.

893
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 2: And Events for the Chamber of Commerce.

894
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 4: No, no, I mean is taxpayer money going to be involved?

895
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 2: Probably, you know, as much as left question.

896
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 4: Well, maybe they could sentence some of these fraud people

897
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 4: to turn over the money for the NFL Draft.

898
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 2: Still, that'd be nice, nice change.

899
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 4: All right, So Minnesota Sports, Just so people understand this,

900
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 4: Minnesota Sports and Events, it's a it's a local organization

901
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 4: that helps bring big events they got in other wise. Yeah, absolutely,

902
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 4: big events, large and small, bring them to the Twin Cities.

903
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 4: Because nowadays, you have to have a bid, you have

904
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 4: to spend money on the bid, you have to convince

905
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 4: the NFL our main competitor in twenty twenty eight is

906
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 4: when we want the draft? Is you know that?

907
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 2: Oh good? That's why I was asked Buffalo and Buffalo get.

908
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 4: It because they're going to have a new stadium by

909
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 4: twenty twenty eight.

910
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 2: They've already pledged they will close the schools for two

911
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 2: weeks in order to make sure because it takes time

912
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 2: to get all the infrastructure and.

913
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 4: Don't close the bars. Yeah, that's right, that's all that matters.

914
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 2: That's it.

915
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 4: So they have a new stadium. But I mean, Minnesota

916
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 4: has been been applying for the NFL draft since twenty nineteen.

917
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 4: Now I'm going to I'd be a little serious here.

918
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 4: I know it's very difficult, but this would go a

919
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 4: long way to what to helping restore the image of Minneapolis.

920
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 2: We've had. The image of Minneapolis has been restored.

921
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 4: It absolutely is. I believe that it reinforces that what

922
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 4: a great uplifting place this is to live the draft.

923
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 4: I think that helps. Man. I'm just saying. I'm just saying, after.

924
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 2: All the station.

925
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 4: Chaos and the violence and the financial wreckage that Ice.

926
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 2: Has caused here, and let me ask you a question.

927
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 4: Do you know it? Man, it'd be great. I mean,

928
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 4: why not. I want the Final Four here, It'll be great.

929
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 2: That's fine, I'd love it badly. Helped get a stadium, right,

930
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 2: And I submitted that when he got that deal for

931
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 2: the Wilfs, that he was grandfathered in for the rest

932
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 2: of his career with the Vikings, because that's such a

933
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 2: big move if you're the owners. But is it possible

934
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 2: now that Wilf said, you know, but we've allowed you

935
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 2: to rest on your laurels for ten years since then,

936
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 2: but now now it's time. We basically said, that was

937
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 2: it all you needed to do, but we need one

938
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 2: more thing for you to do. I'm just asking.

939
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 4: Let's just say that I think Lester Bagley's hidden hand

940
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 4: is in a lot of the events, a lot of

941
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 4: the bids, a lot of the things that go on,

942
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 4: not just with the Vikings, but with other sports organizations

943
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 4: in the Twin Cities. I mean, you think about the education,

944
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 4: the pH D education that you get, yes, by shepherding

945
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 4: through a stadium, not just for the NFL, for the Twins,

946
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 4: for an arena, for a new basketball facility for the Timberwolves.

947
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 4: I mean, this is this is a tough, a pretty

948
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,919
Speaker 4: heavy lift. So yeah, I mean to get this one

949
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 4: thing I think is a is a big deal. I

950
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 4: still think we need the wrestling WrestleMania, but you know

951
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:02,919
Speaker 4: that's what I think. I'm still disappointed about that. You yeah,

952
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 4: I mean, so when are we up twenty thirty five

953
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 4: or something?

954
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 2: You know what's happened?

955
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 4: I mean it was very close.

956
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 2: So why did Channel five have an online story KSTP

957
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 2: indicating that the headline was basically, this time around, there's

958
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 2: a real chance of a gambling deal going through the

959
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 2: House and the Senate. Do you think there is something

960
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 2: different or is this just the teas that we hear

961
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 2: every year about this time in the count Well?

962
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 4: Embarrassing, I did not see this, So it was a

963
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 4: Tom Hauser story.

964
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 2: It's a good question. I can't I say, yeah, absolutely,

965
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 2: then that would give it credibility to me.

966
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it would not to you.

967
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 2: Incredible, No, are you aware of anything that's changing? I

968
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 2: mean we talked about the uh, what what's the other market?

969
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 2: Betting market?

970
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 4: Oh?

971
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 2: These and the yeah that stuff that that what because I.

972
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 4: Have the prediction market.

973
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 2: The prediction market that somebody said, well, because that's stuff

974
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 2: isn't being policed. We might as well stop acting puritanical

975
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 2: about it. So let's just get in the water with

976
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 2: everybody else. But I'm going to be skeptical. You've said this.

977
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,479
Speaker 2: I mean, it's hard not to be skeptical, no matter

978
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 2: how many times we say we're closer and closer and

979
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 2: it's about to happen, until it happens. I'm just trying

980
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 2: to get a feel on if there's anything significant that's changing.

981
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 4: Well, I've been talking to people, and I haven't been

982
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 4: in the last couple of weeks. I mean, are they

983
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 4: going to tweak it here and there? I don't see

984
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 4: the votes changing. We are at a point in the legislature.

985
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 4: What day is today? Wednesday? I think we have one

986
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 4: of the very first deadlines for bills to pass. It's

987
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 4: got to pass somewhere within the next forty eight hours

988
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 4: in order for it to survive for the year. So

989
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 4: I think there is urgency to this, but I'm not

990
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 4: sure that the numbers have changed a hell of a lot.

991
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 4: And again, we talk every year, as we have since

992
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 4: the late seventies, you and me about this where this

993
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 4: this is one of these rare occasions where the far

994
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 4: left and the far right have joined forces, and they've

995
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:09,280
Speaker 4: circled back around each other for different reasons, for different reasons,

996
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 4: but some of them is government doesn't belong in this.

997
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 4: This is immoral, that we should not be doing this.

998
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 4: It's going to hurt kids. And there's more and more

999
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 4: evidence of this right now. I don't see the boats.

1000
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 4: I don't see it, and I don't have anybody telling

1001
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:24,959
Speaker 4: me that they're there.

1002
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 2: Well, we'll say, well, we'll paytent. We have time to

1003
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 2: continue to pursue it. Ed in Saint Paul, I think

1004
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 2: makes a really good suggestion. Kessler says Buffalo is the

1005
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 2: prime competition for the Vikings to host the twenty twenty

1006
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 2: eight draft. Can you make the argument that neither of

1007
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 2: these markets should get its first shot at the draft

1008
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 2: until one of them actually wins a Super Bowl?

1009
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 4: Well, then it's going to be in Green Bay or

1010
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 4: all the for the.

1011
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 2: Years, Chicago, there's a lot of play's going to be

1012
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I do.

1013
00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 4: It's going to be in Kansas City for the next.

1014
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 2: They're combined oh to nine in the super Bowl, Buffalo

1015
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 2: and Minnesota.

1016
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 4: Man, And you make a really really good point, And

1017
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 4: it hurts that truth hurts? Does it hurts? But if

1018
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 4: it's between US and Minneapolis, maybe this is the second

1019
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 4: place prize. If we don't have the super Bowl. I

1020
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 4: think this is a big deal. I do, and I

1021
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 4: hope we get it and I go. I probably probably will.

1022
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 2: You know what you'd go because you'd end up in

1023
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 2: the beautiful people.

1024
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 4: If I had a section or I could go where

1025
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 4: I could get in and out quickly. I mean, it's

1026
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 4: it's it's crazy. I'm at an age where if there's

1027
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 4: one hundred thousand people, yeah, sadly, you know, should I

1028
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 4: should I go to No Kings this weekend? How many

1029
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 4: people are going to be there? If there's fifty thousand

1030
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 4: people on the lawn of the state Capitol, I don't

1031
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 4: know if I want to be there.

1032
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I.

1033
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 4: Don't know what to say, but yeah, I will commit

1034
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 4: that if we get the five hundred thousand, I'll go

1035
00:55:58,320 --> 00:55:59,479
Speaker 4: with you and me together.

1036
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 2: That's fair enough. All right, we're out of time, were not?

1037
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 4: Are we?

1038
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 2: We had six sixteen? We're actually late. I'm gonna go

1039
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 2: when we come back. We've got some breaking Minnesota Timberwolves

1040
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:16,760
Speaker 2: news to discuss, and then we'll wrap things up for tonight. Stay.

1041
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 2: It's the Bumper to Bumper show Wrap brought to by

1042
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 2: American Pression. Very eclectic program today almost start to finish.

1043
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 2: We appreciate all the outstanding contributions from the Rubes out there.

1044
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 2: It's been a lot of fun and sometimes it's a

1045
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:43,919
Speaker 2: bit controversial. We had guests on the thirties tonight, Mitch

1046
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 2: Lawrence at three thirty to talk NBA, John Breem at

1047
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 2: four thirty to talk basically Springsteen and Dylan to legendary

1048
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 2: popular music figures, and then Kessler on just about everything.

1049
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 2: The breaking Wolves news is that Iodsumu will not be

1050
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 2: available for the Wolves tonight against the Houston Rockets, and

1051
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 2: an important game if you care about seating and standings.

1052
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 2: So we know Edwards is out already for tonight, and

1053
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 2: now a guy who has played really well. I think

1054
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 2: the more we've seen him, the more responsibility that he

1055
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 2: has taken and assumed, the better he has looked. So

1056
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 2: that is a loss for the club tonight. Maybe Bones

1057
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 2: Highland can dominate the way he did against the Boston Celtics,

1058
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 2: but the Wolves will have to get it done tonight

1059
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 2: without the guard that they acquired via trade just before

1060
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 2: the trade deadline tomorrow is Thursday. Correct, this is Wednesday.

1061
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 2: It is so tomorrow's broadcast. We're right now. It's a

1062
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 2: talker Tuesday on a Thursday. I think I don't think

1063
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 2: we have anything. My goal is to try to get

1064
00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 2: Russo tomorrow. We get Russo every week, and Friday's a

1065
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 2: little more cluttered, so we'll talk to him and see

1066
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 2: if that works for him. I'd like to get Russo

1067
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 2: on tomorrow if at all possible, and we might add

1068
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:14,479
Speaker 2: a couple of pieces. I wouldn't mind a college Big

1069
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 2: Dance presence tomorrow, whether it's Rick Boss again or somebody

1070
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 2: else who can articulate exactly what's going on in college

1071
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 2: basketball now that we're down to sixteen teams, because there's

1072
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 2: a lot of I think there are a lot of

1073
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 2: good matchups, certainly on the men's side. Women's side feels

1074
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 2: a little bit more one sided, but nevertheless, of course,

1075
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 2: the Gophers will be playing Friday night, a game that

1076
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 2: you'll be able to hear on the fan as soon

1077
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 2: as we're done at six point thirty Gophers against the

1078
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Speaker 2: heavily favored UCLA Bruins. So we'll see what comes together

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Speaker 2: overnight and into tomorrow. But there should be more than

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Speaker 2: enough for us, more than enough. There's certainly enough fodder.

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Speaker 2: And there's several stories done as related stories that I

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Speaker 2: not even bothered to get to today that we might

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Speaker 2: get into tomorrow. I have nominated Kessler for PST, saying

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Speaker 2: the Vikings getting the draft would be like a second

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Speaker 2: place prize to a super Bowl. That's fairly well stated,

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Speaker 2: and maybe that will end up being a would be

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Speaker 2: end up being PST worthy as well. Guards he's gonna

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Speaker 2: check in tomorrow. I forgot about that. He is on

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Speaker 2: the list for tomorrow, maybe for an extended period. So

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Speaker 2: we got that in our back pocket as well, So

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Speaker 2: it'd be a little bit of everything tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: Tonight, what do we got Wild Weekly and then Wolves?

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Speaker 2: The Wolves are a late game tonight, a national TV

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Speaker 2: game as well. Now, thanks for watching today, thank you

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Speaker 2: for listening every day, and we'll talk to you tomorrow

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Speaker 2: beginning at three