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Speaker 1: Gears kf Hans, Ron Johnson and Eric George Quist.

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Speaker 2: Well, despite drinking water, I mean choking to death on

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Speaker 2: water feels almost as entertaining and his delightful experience as

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Speaker 2: what we saw in the border battle today, I'm NORDO

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Speaker 2: from nine to noon. Ron Johnson joining me shortly the

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Speaker 2: head coach. Before we try to explain what happened in

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Speaker 2: today's loss, maybe the head coach can offer us some

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Speaker 2: words of wisdom.

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Speaker 3: Just what are we doing as coaches?

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Speaker 4: What are we doing, you know, to emphasize how to

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Speaker 4: play smart football, you know as the starting point, and

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Speaker 4: you know on that play, I know what Miles is

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Speaker 4: trying to do. He's trying to fair catch. And then

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Speaker 4: you know, see if he can get a piece of

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Speaker 4: the gunner to to try to help the ball have

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Speaker 4: time to get in the end zone.

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Speaker 3: But first and foremost, you know, we've got to be

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Speaker 3: able to make the.

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Speaker 4: Initial play, which was the decision not to catch that ball,

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Speaker 4: and then we've got to get all Minnesota vikings away

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Speaker 3: And if they end up downing it, you know.

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Speaker 4: Like we were able to do a couple of times

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Speaker 3: But if we if they end up downing it down in.

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Speaker 4: Their tight then it's on the offense to try to

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Speaker 4: sustain a drive and at least flip the field field

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Speaker 4: position wise.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, we've got to get some of those things handled.

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Speaker 5: You think JJ is just in terms of handling this

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Speaker 5: because in a couple of weeks that really seemed like

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Speaker 4: Do Yeah, I think, first of all, yeah, the formula

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Speaker 4: cannot be to you know, end up being down double

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Speaker 4: digits in the in the second half and at least

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Speaker 4: you know, knowing where you know, it kind of takes

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Speaker 4: when you're in coming into halftime. Ten to six, you know,

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Speaker 4: thinking a defensive stop and then you know, having a

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Speaker 4: third quarter, and then the game can kind of stay

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Speaker 4: where where you want it, whether where we're really close

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Speaker 4: in the first half time of possession, we're really close,

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Speaker 4: you know, yards and able to kind of every single

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Speaker 4: one of those positive run plays should hopefully be setting

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Speaker 4: And we just can't quite get to that point without

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Speaker 4: having some you know, some things happening around JJ or

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Speaker 4: there where and when you're playing a good defense and

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Speaker 4: still definitely a work in progress for sure, but I

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Speaker 3: He's he's absolutely under control.

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Speaker 4: From a play call standpoint, There's little things, you know

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Speaker 4: points on the board. But it is one of those

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Speaker 4: things where I do believe wholeheartedly that, you know, it

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Speaker 3: Running the ball is great.

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Speaker 4: And got a play pass to justin early and ended

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Speaker 4: And it's just little things like that where you know,

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Speaker 4: can be left for chance. I appreciate it's not just

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Speaker 2: But can you can you win what he's doing right now?

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Speaker 3: I think you can.

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Speaker 4: I do believe that, but it does require, you know,

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Speaker 4: as a football team not doing things that that that

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Speaker 4: loses games and special teams turnover I believe in you know,

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Speaker 3: And then ultimately, you know, the.

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Speaker 4: Defense is out there battling, they're they're they're trying to get.

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Speaker 3: The ball back for us as much as we can.

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Speaker 4: But then there's you know, some things where you can't

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Speaker 4: while also giving him a chance to grow, but but

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Speaker 4: But also all eleven guys in that huddle are doing

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Speaker 4: play the phase where I thought will unbelievable with those

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Speaker 4: where you know, drives where if you get points there,

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Speaker 4: you got to you're staying in the football game, staying

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Speaker 6: It just the amount of the pressure they generate enough front.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we we we had a pretty good

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Speaker 4: the general the general feel sometimes is are we using

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Speaker 4: right off that and jumping on that player right off

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Speaker 4: those those bumps and those protections because outside of you know,

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Speaker 4: calling calling plays where you're doing that, you're essentially when

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Speaker 4: you're down points, you're you know, there's that that that

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Speaker 4: call sheet can shrink in a hurry, and we've experienced

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Speaker 4: it at times this year with guys having to step in,

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Speaker 4: half of games. And we didn't handle it well today whatsoever.

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Speaker 7: Brian O'Neill fucking locker and got a need for emergency

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Speaker 7: and the guys just understanding of their job is on

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Speaker 7: every single play. As you think about urgency for these players,

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Speaker 7: where where does that express itself to.

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Speaker 2: You in the game of to see it?

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Speaker 4: Well, I think it's a mix, right. I think we've

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Speaker 4: seen examples of guys pressing. Maybe they try to make

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Speaker 4: that's where you feel pressing at times. But then there's

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Speaker 4: other times where it's got to be technique. It's got

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Speaker 4: to be strained, it's got to be fundamentals, and the

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Speaker 4: eleven guys in the huddle doing their jobs. You know,

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Speaker 4: no errors, No, you know, we don't really don't. You

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Speaker 4: don't get chances for doovers. So when those things turn

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Speaker 4: sustain a drive, maybe we pick up the special teams

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Speaker 4: after that turnover. I know the defense is going out

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Speaker 4: we're gonna hold him out right here, and they punch

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Speaker 3: Big deal.

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Speaker 4: Let's go take the ball and let's put a drive

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Speaker 4: to be in this game, and just keep applying pressure

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Speaker 4: to the opponent. But we can't allow that that feeling

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Speaker 3: And that's not.

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Speaker 4: Really referencing the quarterback in any way, shape or form.

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Speaker 4: But he's still an experienced guy that's building it up

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Speaker 4: as he goes. And there's just too much bad football today,

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Speaker 4: specifically in the second half, really second half only that

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Speaker 2: Hey, that's head coach Kevin O'Connell addressing the media from

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Speaker 2: lambeau Field. We'll let you know potentially if Ben Lieber

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Speaker 2: has any other pending chats with any members of the

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Speaker 2: Vikings down in the locker room following the twenty three

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Speaker 2: to six loss. Welcome to Vikings fan Line and Ernest

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Speaker 2: Nordo from nine to noon. Ron Johnson is here with

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Speaker 2: me as the Vikings just were never really competitive in

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Speaker 2: the border battle this afternoon, or I should say, I mean,

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Speaker 2: you get ten six at half, you're kind of feeling good,

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Speaker 2: you force the punt, and then Miles Price and the

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Speaker 2: rest is history from there, which is why we're here.

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Speaker 2: We're going to dig into this, whether it's the phone

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Speaker 2: calls eight hundred and three two zero five three two

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Speaker 2: lines open for business as well. But to get Ron

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Speaker 2: Johnson's analysis, let's get to let's get to the phone calls.

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Speaker 2: Justin and Iowa Justin. Welcome to Vikings fan Line.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, hey guys, so actually you guys really just touched

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Speaker 8: on it. I really want to talk about Miles Price

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Speaker 8: in the last few weeks. How he's really been on

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Speaker 8: the decline please, just's been messing up and casting the

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Speaker 8: vikings big points. Yeah, we gave up that best down,

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Speaker 8: you know, inside the ten yard line today, but I

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Speaker 8: mean he's been doing it the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I appreciate the call. Let's let's start there. Ron

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Speaker 2: lots to dig into. Lots of bad things took place

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Speaker 2: today in Green Bay. And that's not just the fans

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Speaker 2: near the Fleet Farm entrance at lambeau Field. I'm talking

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Speaker 2: about the actual gameplay. My goodness, what a freaking disaster.

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Speaker 2: You're looking for a momentum into the second half, you

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Speaker 2: force the punt. I think it was five or six

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Speaker 2: That was almost kind of the my goodness, this might

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Speaker 5: Yeah, No, that's not his fault, it's not so in

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Speaker 2: Somebody has to.

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Speaker 5: Yell Peter, Peter, poison, poison, whatever their call is to everybody.

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Speaker 5: Scatter if it's just scatter, scatters like whatever, because the gunners,

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Speaker 2: That's just a bad bounce. That thing bounce right back.

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Speaker 5: But the fact that he's still blocking and nobody's yelling

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Speaker 5: this kid is great. Can we get him on offense?

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Speaker 5: Blah blah. So you got to take the good with

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Speaker 5: big plays don't happen a lot, and he makes them.

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Speaker 5: But that play is not his fault. That's the guys

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Speaker 5: He's blocking the gunner to stop him from downing the

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Speaker 2: That's the play. If I want the gunner to not

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Speaker 5: A punt return, I'm going to look up as long

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Speaker 5: I don't know if they changed this rule. The punt

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Speaker 5: can't hit the ball. That's all Miles Price is doing.

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Speaker 5: He's he's doing his job. That's just a bad bounce.

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Speaker 5: That's a bad bounce. And then nobody else alerted him.

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Speaker 5: It didn't look like it. They just kept blocking, because

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Speaker 5: Coach should say, Coach Daniel should say, hey, after it

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Speaker 5: Again that's a different conversation, but yeah, they're definitely taught

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Speaker 2: there's twelve guys when there's actually just eleven. Correct. This

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Speaker 5: Running over calling the time out screaming too as well

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Speaker 2: We couldn't find the twelve guys. Somebody gets in Ko's year,

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Speaker 5: No, we couldn't find the upstairs because they were the

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Speaker 5: So both Lafleur, Kevin O'Connell, the refs, everybody was wrong.

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Speaker 2: And there wasn't. It's all part of an incredibly disorganized

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Speaker 2: Reker maybe the most consistent player on the Minnesota Vikings

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Speaker 2: from sixty five. Yeah, in this special team thing. Man,

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Speaker 2: Chris and O Aatana Chris, Welcome to Vikings fan line. Hey, Chris,

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Speaker 2: Chris is listening to the radio. That's that's terrific. Chris

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Speaker 2: callback if so inclined? How about JP, JP and Rochester

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Vikings fan line.

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Speaker 10: Hey, thank you, and Rob Johnson you're the man anyway,

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Speaker 10: I think Ron, I think I think it's all good.

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Speaker 10: I don't think JJ McCarthy is ready yet. I really don't.

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Speaker 10: I don't know if he's ever going to be. And

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Speaker 10: I don't like the interceptions happen when you're young. Look

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Speaker 10: first started, they were throwing picks all the time. We

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Speaker 10: he's overthrowing. I just don't think that he feels comfortable.

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Speaker 10: Something else is going on with that team because the

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Speaker 10: rest today I thought were terrible. They've been bad the

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Speaker 10: last three weeks. I don't know. I think it's time that,

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Speaker 10: let's just see what Max Blosberg can do. I don't

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Speaker 10: know why that's such a bad word. You know, you're

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Speaker 10: not taking anything away from JJ McCarthy. You know, cinema

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Speaker 10: I appreciate what's your take.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate it, JP Ron, that's kind of been

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Speaker 2: four win team you were hoping for five. It's not

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Speaker 2: happening in teams four and seven. It was awful at

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Speaker 2: lambeau Field today. Bud. You're thinking, maybe, you know, as

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Speaker 2: the fan line, you're thinking, well, at least I could

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Speaker 2: see some progression out of JJ McCarthy. Yep. And and

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Speaker 2: there you know, there are many angles to take with that.

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Speaker 2: We had seen fewer sacks over the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: Super pumped to see all five on the offensive line

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Speaker 2: That's just terrific. Uh, twenty twenty five in a nutshell

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Speaker 2: And then I threw a pick on the next play. Yep,

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Speaker 5: Howkins is wide open to his left. Yeah, if he

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Speaker 5: Like somebody said he's thinking too much, or the broadcast

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Speaker 5: The ball came out his arm and then what's called

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Speaker 2: How did it even happened while Justin's school having to

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Speaker 2: eight per reception. Even got a cute little push push attempt. Yeah,

437
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Speaker 2: on the this is funny.

438
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Speaker 5: In the pregame show, I did my three minute Drew,

439
00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,159
Speaker 5: I literally said the tight end is going to be

440
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Speaker 5: the number one receiver.

441
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Speaker 2: In the three minute Drow, I was like.

442
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Speaker 5: You have to go to the tight every team they've played,

443
00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,600
Speaker 5: they've given up, like, what was it, eighty one targets

444
00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,840
Speaker 5: to tight ends, five hundred yards of tight ends, five

445
00:19:55,920 --> 00:20:00,480
Speaker 5: touchdowns out of thirteen where the tight ends McBride zach

446
00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,240
Speaker 5: Ertz all those tight ends eight Because when the receivers

447
00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,719
Speaker 5: go their dbs all worry about the receivers and they

448
00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,360
Speaker 5: forget about the tight end underneath.

449
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Speaker 2: I literally said, that was my four plays in the

450
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Speaker 2: in the thing.

451
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Speaker 5: And then the one touchdown to Pickens was because the

452
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Speaker 5: Cavender Twins husband Ferguson was hooking.

453
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Speaker 2: I don't know if he had a picture of one

454
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Speaker 2: of the girls on his back, but Cavender Twins have

455
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Speaker 2: a singular husband. Oh yeah, they share them on TikTok. Yeah,

456
00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 2: when you marry one twin, the other one's always there.

457
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Speaker 5: She doesn't have a boyfriend. Her boyfriend was the quarterback

458
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,040
Speaker 5: for Miami. He broke up with her or she broke

459
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Speaker 5: up with him, so you get both of them. But

460
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Speaker 5: like the safeties are staring at Jake Ferguson, which.

461
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Speaker 2: Lee's Pickens wide open?

462
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Speaker 5: That was the one time a receiver with an open

463
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Speaker 5: tight end route worked in the red zone.

464
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Speaker 2: And I said, I was like, whether it's t. J.

465
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Speaker 5: Hawkinson or Josh Oliver, they've got to have some plays

466
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,240
Speaker 5: drawn up for them, and they did, but it just

467
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,359
Speaker 5: wasn't enough. Like Jordan Addison nowhere to be found, and

468
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Speaker 5: again with eighty seven yards, I don't think you can

469
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Speaker 5: find Jordan Adison in that twelve like twelve throws twelve

470
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Speaker 5: complet like it just it just wasn't good. And I

471
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Speaker 5: don't understand why they don't go up timboy a little

472
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Speaker 5: bit just to say that's what JJ plays best when

473
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Speaker 5: he's not thinking he plays best.

474
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Speaker 2: We saw the Packers do that a few times today. Yeah,

475
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 2: they like the personnel group they saw maybe from from

476
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 2: our lot defensively and they're like, all right, we're gonna

477
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,159
Speaker 2: keep these guys on the field and try to just

478
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 2: push it a little bit.

479
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Speaker 5: Somebody on the pregame show said Kevin o'connough made the

480
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 5: comment about that and said something like or not not

481
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 5: he did that person say, yeah, and JJ McCarthy plays fast.

482
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Speaker 2: But you can't do that all game? Why not?

483
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 3: Like what?

484
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 2: At what point do you just try stuff?

485
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Speaker 5: Now you're four and seven, you might as well come

486
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,199
Speaker 5: out the gate against what was next Seattle. You might

487
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:38,439
Speaker 5: as well come out the gate because you don't want

488
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Speaker 5: Sam Darnald to see this. Like I mean, if you're

489
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 5: going to see your ex girlfriend, you better show up

490
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,439
Speaker 5: with a bit ley like this offense got that has

491
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Speaker 5: to come out moving. You cannot go there to see

492
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Speaker 5: your ex girlfriend and then you pull up in a

493
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 5: hooftie cause she's like, Oh, I'm glad I broke up

494
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 5: with you, Like this is what I was gonna have

495
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,119
Speaker 5: to deal with, Like Sam Darnald versus JJ McCarthy, this

496
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 5: is what we all thought was gon be a great day, right,

497
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 5: a great Sunday afternoon, three o'clock prime time.

498
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Speaker 2: I don't feel like it.

499
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Speaker 5: I at this moment, it feels like Jackson Smith and

500
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,119
Speaker 5: Jigba and Sam Darnold are gonna make Kevin O'Connell be like,

501
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 5: how do we get this kid quarterback to play better?

502
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Speaker 2: Well, I'll be honest, I haven't. I haven't thought that

503
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 2: this was going to be a great Sunday afternoon in

504
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,919
Speaker 2: about two months. Maybe, well maybe I shouldn't say that.

505
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 2: Maybe after we beat the kiddies, I'm thinking, okay, pathways,

506
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,679
Speaker 2: we're headed in the right direction. And but here's the thing.

507
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 2: I don't get.

508
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 5: Aaron Jones rips off a great run and then you

509
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 5: throw the ball like five straight times after that. That

510
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 5: makes no sense.

511
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, opening driving the game like the run was a

512
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 2: super productive runs and then you even then you even

513
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 2: had the fifteen yard er to Jefferson correct, So you

514
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 2: get to first downs, run the ball again and then

515
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 2: just three kind of I mean, and they have There

516
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 2: was one. I think it was a quick out and

517
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Speaker 2: I forget maybe it was Addison. I think it's Javonne.

518
00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 2: Bullard was more ready for that. The screen. He hit

519
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 2: the corner the screen. The corner jumped it so quickly

520
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 2: that they didn't They didn't even have a chance to

521
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 2: get off, and we threw our way into well, it's

522
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 2: a it's a tunnel screen.

523
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Speaker 5: I think if I'm if I'm the way the way

524
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 5: it's supposed to be is most dangerous man.

525
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 2: Somebody was slow to get out there. Yeah, like TJ.

526
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 5: Hockinson kind of was waiting as if Jordan Nas was

527
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Speaker 5: going to run at him and run it more like

528
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 5: a tunnel, and Addison stepped back like it was going

529
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Speaker 5: to be like they're going to come to him and

530
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Speaker 5: then he's going to catch it and go up. So again, fundamentally,

531
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Speaker 5: somebody screwed that up because that's not supposed to happen

532
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 5: that way, and there's no way Addison runs backwards and

533
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Speaker 5: has no blockers. He either he was just supposed to

534
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 5: come down the tunnel and catch it, or Hawkinson.

535
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 2: Was supposed to go full speed.

536
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,959
Speaker 5: At his guy to hit him and decapitate him early,

537
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 5: and then Addison can catch it and go up the field.

538
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 2: So it just didn't look right. Yeah, you're right. The

539
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 2: dB turns his turns around to pick six to the line.

540
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Speaker 2: To the phone lines again, Mike and Tampa. Mike, welcome

541
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Speaker 2: to Vikings fan line.

542
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Speaker 12: A.

543
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Speaker 9: Thanks for having me.

544
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Speaker 13: Off of what Ron said, I think that the biggest

545
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 13: high on this team is Will Rekerts.

546
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 9: That kid is just a beast.

547
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 13: I think that JJ could learn some neurological pathways and

548
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 13: says psychology from him. But I just want to feed

549
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 13: up what Ron just said. This team is undisciplined from

550
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 13: all facets. I think that the coaching is having a

551
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 13: difficult time. You don't see the fight in the eyes.

552
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 13: There's no identity. I just want you guys to exploud

553
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 13: on that and kind of, you know, feed into what

554
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 13: is going wrong. We have no identity. This is not

555
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 13: a Vikings team that I've seen in many, many, many years.

556
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 2: No, I appreciate the phone call in terms of identity

557
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 2: at this stage for a four and sevent team, I

558
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 2: kind of think, I mean, I hate to put it

559
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,360
Speaker 2: so bluntly, I think their identity is bad, Like that's

560
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 2: that's the word there, and you want it's like an

561
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 2: episode of Scooby Doo. You just want at the end

562
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 2: somebody's going to pull the mask off and it's like,

563
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 2: oh surprise, we're actually we're a competent, competitive operation. I

564
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 2: don't think that mask pulling moment's gonna happen at this stage.

565
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 5: So if you had Adrian Peterson at running back, okay,

566
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 5: and let's say Sean Mannion at quarterback, you got forty plays,

567
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 5: how many of those are you gonna run the ball?

568
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 2: Well, Adrian's gonna get his customary twenty five to thirty

569
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 2: technically for sure.

570
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 5: And I'm not saying Aaron Jones, I mean or Jordan

571
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 5: Mason is is Adrian Peterson in twenty twelve?

572
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, an MVP season in which I believe Christian Ponder

573
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 2: was the featured option under center.

574
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 5: And Christian Ponder they I think that came up on

575
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 5: the telecast too. Maybe somebody bought him up for some reason.

576
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 5: I don't know, if there was something about his first

577
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 5: couple games or something. Well, they're starting to make that comparison.

578
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 5: That's not that's not good for the image of the Yeah,

579
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 5: I didn't understand what that was, like, you know that

580
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 5: was that was twenty twelve.

581
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was twenty well, twenty twelve. Bill Musgrave

582
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 2: had a play calling sheet about the size of the

583
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Speaker 2: average post. It just run right and seventy five percent

584
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 2: of the post that just had the number twenty eight

585
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 2: written on it. And they found a way, I think,

586
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 2: to win ten games, including the final four to get in. Yeah,

587
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 2: the walkoff, I believe against the Packers, maybe in a

588
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,959
Speaker 2: high scoring affair at Metrodome to seal the playoff opportunity.

589
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

590
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, so here's the problem. You have Justin

591
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 2: jan the ball.

592
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 5: You have Justin Jefferson, you have Jordan Adison, right, so

593
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 5: you can't say I need.

594
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 2: To run the ball.

595
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 5: But the problem is the person getting them the ball.

596
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 5: You have to say I have to run the ball.

597
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 5: And that's why the team lacks identity. Yeah, and that's

598
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 5: you're right what we're seeing it because you have you

599
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 5: have weapons on the outside in Addison, Jefferson, Naylor. Like

600
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 5: Naylor was actually open on that last play. Like there's

601
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 5: a lot of guys opening, he was open on that

602
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 5: last play. He just feed it in there a little bit,

603
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 5: a little touch, you know, not a show Heyo Tani fastball.

604
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 5: You just gotta a little change up, little screwball, get

605
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 5: it to him.

606
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 2: I know it was an overthrow in the second interception,

607
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 2: I was a bad overthrow. Yes, it was a bad overthrow.

608
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Speaker 2: Kids press seeing kids out of his head. Kid hasn't

609
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 2: been good enough. Kids not showing progress. That whole thing

610
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 2: I did not see a ton of. And again it's

611
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 2: the lack of passing attempts in the first place. He

612
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 2: kept going three and out and then specifically in the

613
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 2: second half. I'm just looking at the play by play,

614
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 2: the drive sheet via ESPN. Did they finish the second

615
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 2: half with negative yards? I'm doing the math. My main

616
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 2: Cato math puts them at minus one based on the

617
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 2: drive sheet. Yeah, please do. But but yes, no, there

618
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 2: were receivers open today and the team, by the way,

619
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 2: you're talking about running the ball, we don't have Adrian Peterson.

620
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 2: We do have Aaron Jones and Jordan Mason. Fifteen carries

621
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: for eighty six yards in the first half by those

622
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 2: two guys, it's not great in the second well, fifteen

623
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Speaker 2: carries for eighty six yards in the first half is terrific.

624
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 5: No, I mean less than that's not great that they

625
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 5: didn't keep doing it, like.

626
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 2: Two carries from minus three right, keep running the ball

627
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: in the entire time.

628
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 5: I was gonna say something to because they brought this up.

629
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 5: We talked about this last week. I talked about the

630
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 5: number of double digit drives. Remember I'm ought this up

631
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 5: last week and I said, the Vikings have a problem

632
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 5: with like patients, it's.

633
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 2: No patience in the offense where they.

634
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 5: Don't it's almost like, Okay, we get one ten play drive,

635
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 5: maybe one twelve play drive, and it's like, nope, I

636
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 5: got to get a four player. I gotta take the

637
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 5: I gotta slay the dragon. I got to I'm David,

638
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 5: that's the live. Let me give me my sling shot.

639
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,719
Speaker 5: The head coach likes explosive plays. It loves explosive plays.

640
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 5: But the problem is when you have the lowest amount

641
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 5: of ten play drives in the NFL.

642
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 2: There's something to that.

643
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 5: If you're four and seven, if you're seven and four,

644
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 5: I don't think anybody cares. They're like, yep, it works right.

645
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 5: So there's the thing we can always say, why not

646
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 5: do this? If they're winning? Who cares?

647
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 2: Right? When he's winning fourteen games. Nobody cared what he did. Wow,

648
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 2: nobody cared about this stuff. Dak Prescott just threw a

649
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 2: deep ball. I thought it was J. J. McCarthy highlight

650
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 2: for a second. I'm sorry. Six starts, six starts. We

651
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 2: gotta be patient. Back to the phone lines, Roger and Blaine,

652
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: Roger Walkome the Vikings fan line.

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Speaker 14: Hey guys, thanks for taking my car. But I like

654
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Speaker 14: to say I have to be honest with you. My

655
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Speaker 14: name is Hollerin.

656
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Speaker 2: James, Howard. Hollering, Oh, Hollering Howard, James.

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Speaker 14: Oh, hey man.

658
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 11: You know, I like to know.

659
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 14: If I'm the right caller to win those tickets to

660
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Speaker 14: the box suite to the Vikings. Mister Johnson, mister nerdo,

661
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 14: I haven't been on your show for a very very

662
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 14: long time, due to discretion of the intakers of the secretaries.

663
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Speaker 2: I hold the position.

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Speaker 11: I'm holding my car.

665
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Speaker 14: I love your show so much. I'm an advocate listener.

666
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 14: I listen to Kate Fan all the time, you know,

667
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 14: And I tell you one thing, those Vikings. I'm still

668
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 14: putting the faith in them. I still think they could

669
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Speaker 14: pull it out and win a couple more James in

670
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Speaker 14: the North Division NFCFC Central Division. I used to follow

671
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 14: in the Black and Blue Division, and I met Ellen Page,

672
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 14: I met Carl Eller, and there's other radio people who

673
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 14: I know in the station that I have met, like

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Speaker 14: Marky rose In and Ben Mauller and as many sports

675
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Speaker 14: talk radio show guys I've met. I'm telling you, I'm

676
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Speaker 14: here in the scoop boom and I'm really loving you

677
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 14: on the show. I'm really what you're putting on. And

678
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 14: you know what, I believe you. I believe that they ain't.

679
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Speaker 11: Gonna find that right quarterback of that's Grove her road

680
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 11: from from the University of Minnesota, and they find him

681
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 11: and he plays a good potessional skill and he shows

682
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Speaker 11: he can't complete the job as long as we get

683
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Speaker 11: a winning team put back in the market. And I

684
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Speaker 11: want to thank you for taking my call. And I

685
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 11: got some information for you, and you're rolling to give

686
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Speaker 11: me an he's saying that's.

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Speaker 2: Available to me by I don't have tickets for.

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Speaker 8: You, hollering yeah, Height from the show hats yeah.

689
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 2: I mean, well we'll scrape we'll scrape something up. I

690
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 2: mean there's a lot of there's a lot of games left. Hollerant,

691
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 2: I do get the number of yards in the second half.

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Speaker 2: But here's the deal.

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Speaker 15: Holler.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you stop telling the screener that that you're

695
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Speaker 2: Roger and Blaine. Just be real about it, my friend.

696
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 2: Just it's it's hollering. Ready to holler. Absolutely, I want

697
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Speaker 2: to holler.

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Speaker 11: And don't let me holler, man because I'm gonna steal

699
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 11: my show. That's not my line, right, my lie must not.

700
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Speaker 11: Just two years show, mister Johnson, mister Well co existed

701
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Speaker 11: with you and facilitate with you. How are you sure

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Speaker 11: you'll progressed.

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00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 8: No, I appreciate progress, see.

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Speaker 11: And best of you guys in this career as announcers.

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Speaker 2: That's that's incredibly nice. And I appreciate you calling. And

706
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 2: you've stolen my heart is what you have done. And

707
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Speaker 2: we've teared up a little bit. I got a little appreciate.

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Speaker 2: I was teared up.

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Speaker 5: And then also want to let you know it wasn't

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Speaker 5: negative yards nor in the second half.

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Speaker 2: You can calm down. What was the total? Four That's

712
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Speaker 2: just awful. That's just awful and unacceptable. It was negative

713
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Speaker 2: ten in the third quarter, fourteen fourteen in the fourth

714
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Speaker 2: so four my math is right, that's fourteen minus ten Bennett,

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Speaker 2: Yeah four, Ben and Alabama. I mean those are tough.

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Speaker 2: That's a tough act to follow him out four yards

717
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: though that was probably hard for Ben well. Ben, Yeah, Ben,

718
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Speaker 2: welcome to fanline.

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Speaker 9: I don't know how I'm gonna, you know, come after that,

720
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 9: but I've.

721
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Speaker 2: Gotta cry, man, you gotta cry, drop a tear.

722
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 3: I can't do that.

723
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Speaker 9: I'm so pissed at this game.

724
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 2: But tell us why, man, I have to change.

725
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 9: You guys might need to drop that song. Quation never

726
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 9: fails in a free agency because boy, you signed so

727
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 9: many players over the age of thirty, and that's not

728
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 9: we need football. Almost safety on the first almost safety,

729
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 9: Brian Kelly just got bull rushed by Parsons and yeah,

730
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 9: I thought he was going to take JAG's and off.

731
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 9: But yeah, JJ's not progressing. I was originally calling about that,

732
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 9: but I just don't see what we're gonna do. We

733
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 9: need to resign Redband to a long term extension. But

734
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Speaker 9: other than that, I'm just wondering, Oh, we're not given

735
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 9: enough credit to our punter. He had a great couple

736
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Speaker 9: of kicks today, But wondering, you know, when you sign

737
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Speaker 9: all these guys over thirty Aaron Jones, Brian Kelly, I

738
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Speaker 9: know I'm missing a few, Yeah, but hard Grave, Yeah,

739
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Speaker 9: I'm just wondering what your thoughts on that. They take

740
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Speaker 9: care love you guys, have a great day.

741
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you too, Bet, I appreciate it.

742
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

743
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 2: The fact that so when that happened in free agency

744
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 2: ran and we're kind of watching Isaiah Rodgers digging that

745
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 2: pick up, digging the you know, the financial aspects of

746
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 2: that pickup as well. There are a lot of things

747
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 2: I'm not digging now. But it stinks because in the

748
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 2: off season, like if you listen to nine to noon,

749
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 2: we start adding up everybody that we added effectively via

750
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 2: free agency this last spring has had some sort of

751
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 2: injury issue. Gave a bunch of cash to Will Fryes

752
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 2: he missed most of the season last year. Jonathan Allen

753
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 2: missed most of the half the season, I think, and

754
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: then Javon Hargrave I believe missed all but three games.

755
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 2: Ryan Kelly with the concussion issues he missed time last year.

756
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Speaker 2: And as we're talking about it, we're talking about it

757
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 2: in the spring with an optimistic tinge to it, where well,

758
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 2: if these guys play out, this is terrific, right, measured

759
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 2: spending spree. We know that cap issues are going to

760
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 2: get more difficult. We've been trying to get more financially flexible,

761
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 2: but we've had to do some work in free agency

762
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 2: because the draft has just been putrid. I mean, there's

763
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 2: just no getting around it. The drafts have been awful

764
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 2: and terrible, and that has to get better, especially four

765
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 2: and seven. If things keep on the wrong way, you're

766
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: gonna have a fat You're gonna have a nice draft

767
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 2: pick next April, and you got to you gotta hit

768
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 2: a grand slam with it one way or another. Can't

769
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 2: get cute with it. You got to pick a highlight

770
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 2: player in that draft. But now that plays into it.

771
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 2: The team is old, so you get financially flexible, but

772
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 2: you actually don't get younger. You get much older. And

773
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 2: now we're seeing whether it's the degradation of the play

774
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 2: from some of these veterans, or we're seeing injury issues

775
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 2: plaguing in this team in some regard, which has really

776
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 2: been across the entire roster. We're old. We don't have

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00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 2: a bunch of young talent, which kind of leads fans

778
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 2: down the road. Whether it's been and many others that

779
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: I've seen over the recent weeks just kind of where's

780
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,919
Speaker 2: the hope around how this roster gets better into twenty

781
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 2: twenty six, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't.

782
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I mean, honestly, that's a that's the million dollar question

784
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 5: of why gms get paid so much money With the

785
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 5: age thing that you talked about, you have to look

786
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 5: at the injuries with that age, right, So which guys

787
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 5: of age made it?

788
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 2: You know, who played this whole season?

789
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 5: Who do you coho can you retain and not feel

790
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 5: like you're giving away money to somebody who this might

791
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 5: be their last year they might not make it the

792
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 5: entire season. From there, I mean, you got to look

793
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 5: at the free agent market of guys that are you know,

794
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 5: like again Donovan Jackson going or sorry, Donovan Jackson pick

795
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 5: up seemed great, right, But injuries we just can't stay

796
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 5: on the field. And it's not his fault, Like the

797
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 5: one was friendly fire today, his own guy got blown

798
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 5: up and then hitting to him.

799
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Speaker 2: So it's just it's overall. I like Donovan, oh yeah, no,

800
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. He's good, but he says the injury

801
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 2: missed that game earlier with the risk finally comes back

802
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 2: and right, we'll see how this. And he played through

803
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: the risk though too.

804
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 5: He played through the risk to have surgery, like, hey,

805
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 5: we need you to keep going a little bit and

806
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 5: then we'll get you surgery. So yeah, no, I thought

807
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 5: he was a great pickup. I'm just saying the rest

808
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,240
Speaker 5: of these guys, like you said, the number of pickups,

809
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 5: it felt like a lot of the draft picks were

810
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 5: traded away for you know, no reason. I think now

811
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 5: looking back on that Adam Field trade, you know, was

812
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 5: that draft pick worth it?

813
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 3: Like?

814
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 5: Could you have used that for something else? You got

815
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 5: all these draft pick because Jalen Naylor is doing just fine.

816
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 5: Addison's absence at Feeland didn't add anything to it, you.

817
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 2: Know, So it's like, was that pick worth it?

818
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 15: Or you?

819
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 5: Can you trade some pieces now or not trade? Sorry

820
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 5: you missed the trade deadline? You know, can you figure

821
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 5: out this offseason to make some moves to get some

822
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 5: draft picks back potentially after the season ends, to say like,

823
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 5: hey we'll trade you this guy for this if we

824
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 5: can move up in the draft now. Yeah, it's got

825
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 5: to be one of those. And again, and I know

826
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 5: this is not the answer, I really do wonder what

827
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 5: Max Brosmer has, Like I do. I just like, I

828
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 5: don't know if it's just the gopher in me the

829
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 5: eighty seven yards today, twelve or nineteen. I don't know

830
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 5: which one of those is the reason. But I'm like,

831
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 5: at what point do you just see if you put

832
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 5: him in like because because again and I know that

833
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 5: creates another storm, because if he goes out there and

834
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 5: throws for two seventy five and goes, you know, nineteen

835
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 5: for twenty two, you got a problem on your hands.

836
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 2: And that's a problem you do though from a like

837
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: the world standpoint and how everybody's gonna view that, Like,

838
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: did you really have to move on from jaj McCarthy.

839
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 2: They need to find somebody that can throw the ball roun. Yeah.

840
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 2: So I mean we're we're in week eleven, week twelve,

841
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 2: kind of joking about it through the week, and we're

842
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: talking about neurological pathways. We're talking about getting extra reps

843
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 2: when we take the dogs for a walk. We're talking

844
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,720
Speaker 2: about corks popping off of bottles, power the completion, imagine

845
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 2: all imagine if mangle shoulders, footwork, the whole thing. We're

846
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 2: talking about that in week.

847
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 5: Twelve, imagine if he was Shad Door Sanders with that

848
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 5: media following Max Brozman I'm talking about, they would be

849
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 5: calling from in the game, you know, because it's Dylan

850
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 5: Gabriel versus or Sanders, Like, why not try it? Max

851
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 5: Brozman just was an undrafted quarterback. So there's not a

852
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 5: huge media push for.

853
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 2: Well, absolutely there's a huge fan pushing for it.

854
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 3: Luckily.

855
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I joll know. But that's the thing though, is

856
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,919
Speaker 2: I do believe that that if he is not Max

857
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 2: Brosmer from Minnesota, that if he's actually Max Brosmer from

858
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 2: New Hampshire, and there was not that ever, not ever

859
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: a local connection. I don't think you're hearing that. I

860
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 2: think you're playing out the string New Hampshire. Yeah, I

861
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 2: think you're playing out the string yep to see what

862
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 2: what JJ. I don't think Max really enters the conversation

863
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 2: that he is, at least to that of the local angle.

864
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 2: I do believe that there there is some some fan

865
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 2: bias and not that and it's not judging. I'm not

866
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 2: mad at it. I just thin Delaware. So yeah, and

867
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: he got it done. He's from Delaware, absolutely Delaware, New Hampshire. Uh,

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Speaker 2: when we come back We're we're gonna hit all the

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Speaker 2: states on the Eastern seaboard and continue to take your

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Speaker 2: calls as part of Vikings Fan Lives twenty three six.

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Speaker 2: That's the final Vikings are four and seven border battle.

872
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 2: Uh there, there are maybe a few things we love

873
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Speaker 2: the productivity of the run in the first half specifically,

874
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Speaker 2: but a lot of negatives off of this one as

875
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Speaker 2: the team falls to four and seven. Uh, those on, hold,

876
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Speaker 2: we got you. I got some talkback style up. We're

877
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Speaker 2: gonna play at the open of the segment and we're

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Speaker 2: going to continue on. This is Minnesota Vikings Footballnnesota Sports.

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Speaker 16: The Leader, Minnesota Sports Leader is FM one hundred point three.

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00:39:55,719 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 2: Day the fan, Welcome back Vikings fan line. Some calls

881
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 2: around the corner here. Vikings lose twenty three to six,

882
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Speaker 2: But let's hear from the talkback machine. Today was awful.

883
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Speaker 17: But let's zoom out and get optimistic for two seconds

884
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 17: fourth place schedule next year. But holy moly, Quacy and

885
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 17: Kaos have a lot of work to do. KOs we

886
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 17: have no identity on offense none.

887
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 2: We play slow.

888
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 17: It's I mean, it just doesn't make sense to me. Quacy,

889
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 17: you have got to nail some draft picks. You have

890
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 17: got to figure this out or we are in so

891
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 17: much trouble. The ty Felton pick now even is more

892
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 17: head scratching than ever.

893
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 2: Thanks for the talkback identity none talkback machine. I love

894
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 2: this coaching staff.

895
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 18: Don't want him to go anywhere.

896
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 16: Not a big fan of Quasi to be honest, but

897
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 16: I just don't know how this coaching staff went into

898
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 16: the off seas and thought JJ McCarthy was ready. This

899
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 16: is a year to your business and it looks awful.

900
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 16: I mean, there's no defending it. I'm not saying his

901
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 16: career is over. We've seen so many quarterback revival but it,

902
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 16: I mean obviously carries on.

903
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 2: What y'all think?

904
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 16: How much longer can you keep up with this before

905
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 16: you put someone else in?

906
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 2: What's a good question as we were talking about last segment,

907
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 2: well how about this talkback? I mean, can we just

908
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 2: put Max Brosmer in? McCarthy is a bust. The season

909
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 2: has went pair shape. Let's just see what the kid

910
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 2: can do. We got nothing to lose. Well, through six starts,

911
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 2: the fan base has gone from excited to see JJ

912
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 2: make his debut, get the win and soldier field two

913
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 2: up he's heard again, kids missing more games, already missed

914
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 2: a full season. Two welcome back, and then now they're tired.

915
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 2: They don't want the progression. Have they seen have you

916
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 2: seen as the as the common Vikings fan, I'm a

917
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: common Vikings fan. You're just like, we're all just commiserating together.

918
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 2: Have you seen progression from the kid?

919
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 19: Hey, this is Dudley from all Tana. Hey, this team

920
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 19: is really rocking and rolling. I mean that offense is clicking,

921
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 19: that defense is it's making every tackle. There's no mistackles.

922
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 2: Just kidding with JJ.

923
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 19: I mean, how much patience do you have because every

924
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 19: one of his cohorts, Drake May and Bo Nicks and Daniels,

925
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 19: I mean, everybody's skyrocketing, and he gets worse every game.

926
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Speaker 2: I get it.

927
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Speaker 19: He hasn't been here for five years. I know it's

928
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 19: the Minnesota tradition for the moral victory. I guess we'll

929
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Speaker 19: wait till the middle of next year.

930
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:41,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't take that moral victory tradition away from us. Okay, Dudley, did.

931
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Speaker 20: You guys hear at the beginning of the game on

932
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Speaker 20: TV when Greg Olsen said that Kevin O'Connell said that

933
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Speaker 20: JJ McCarthy is the best quarterback he's ever coached.

934
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Speaker 2: Pre snap, it's just the post snap where he has

935
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 2: the problems. If not looking back. I heard that one.

936
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: What kind of malarkey is that?

937
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 3: Yeah?

938
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 2: I was. I was, Ah, there's this cool spot behind

939
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 2: target field raise food haul, Oh yeah, by Travail. It's

940
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: actually it's awesome, man, I got different food and have

941
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: some beers, the whole thing. Great place to watch the game,

942
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 2: great place just to hang out. I heard that, yeah,

943
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 2: and it did kind of stick with me for a

944
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 2: minute to figure that out.

945
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 5: I didn't want to negatively tweet that out because I'm like,

946
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 5: let me think about it from a coaching perspective. So

947
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 5: I was trying to find every positivity in that, like, oh, okay,

948
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 5: he gets them into the right player. He you know,

949
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 5: he's willing to can can or kill kill a play

950
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 5: into the proper play. I think a lot of people

951
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 5: can do that. Yeah, Like you could do that. It's counting. Literally,

952
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 5: you find, you find, you find the mic, and you

953
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 5: count how many linemen are there, how many dds are there?

954
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 5: Let me kill this play because I can't throw.

955
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 2: I want to run this. Oh wait, I want to

956
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 2: kill this and go opposite, opposite.

957
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,479
Speaker 5: I don't want to run left because there's five guys

958
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 5: to my left, there's three guys to my right.

959
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 2: Let me run into the right. I feel like a

960
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: lot of guys can do that. Yeah.

961
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 5: The what's the ball snaps is where you want? Yeah,

962
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 5: that's where you want people. That's like saying, man, this

963
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 5: receiver runs great routes, but he can't catch well even

964
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 5: like you can't keep them.

965
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 2: We were talking about it throughout the week. PA had

966
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Speaker 2: this this stat and sadly, I don't think I mean,

967
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 2: I think this stat even is going down downhill pretty quickly.

968
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 2: That his first two possessions of the game. JJ McCarthy

969
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 2: has like a buck twenty five passer rating and generating touchdowns.

970
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 2: Like there's a lot of good things happening. Here's two

971
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 2: drives or two plays drives every game. Yeah, it's played

972
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 2: in five okay through the first five into today and

973
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 2: and so you know there are implications off of that.

974
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: So it's is it scripted? It just you know, you

975
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 2: start with momentum and then it wanes and then he's

976
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 2: shown the ability, which is true, to find his way

977
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 2: into the end zone. Later stages of the game comporting

978
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 2: himself getting three soldier field. You think about last week,

979
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 2: you get that touchdown against the Bears, you actually had

980
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 2: the lead minus the There's a special team's gaff of

981
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 2: the week another local Chevy Dealers. Awesome people that they are.

982
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 2: They do the drive of the week. I think we

983
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 2: should offer a sponsorship to another great company in town

984
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 2: and just do the Special Teams Gaff of the Week

985
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: presented by my Buddy's at the Barbecue Shop. They can

986
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 2: sponsor that. No, but but we talked to it. It's

987
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 2: just those it's the moments in between. Well that's not like, hey,

988
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 2: in the third quarter, that's like the middle forty minutes

989
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 2: of the freaking game. So whether it's Alwa he's the

990
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 2: best pre snap guy I've ever coached, that's cool. Well,

991
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 2: at some point the play starts always terrific. In the

992
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,439
Speaker 2: first two drives of the game, that's cool. There's three

993
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 2: quarters after that it's just I mean, and you know what,

994
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 2: the team chose this. The team said we're going to

995
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 2: do this. You know, I, for one, would be of

996
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,760
Speaker 2: I'd be in favor of continuing to start JJ McCarthy

997
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 2: for the remainder of the season. So I'll give you this.

998
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 2: That's not a shot against Max Brosmer. But to those

999
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 2: questions in the in the talkbacks and such, from a

1000
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 2: patient standpoint, let's play this out. We waited long. It

1001
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 2: has not been good. But at this point where we

1002
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 2: are a four win team, we need to we need

1003
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 2: to know as unequivocally as possible whether this is a

1004
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 2: thing we can move forward with or there's a competition

1005
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 2: slash pivot in the near future. What do you got?

1006
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 5: I was going to give you the within Like, so

1007
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 5: let's just say halfway through the first quarter. That usually

1008
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 5: is about two drives, right, So I just went seven

1009
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 5: minutes left in the first quarter. So mean JJ McCarthy

1010
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 5: is played through it. His passer rating with seven minutes

1011
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 5: to go in the first quarter. Okay, one hundred and

1012
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 5: forty two point seven.

1013
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,959
Speaker 2: How about that? It's right out of the gates fire.

1014
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 2: Can we take them out after that?

1015
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 9: Then?

1016
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 2: So let them play the first quarter?

1017
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 3: All right?

1018
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 2: So that's like, yeah, so first quarter, JJ, final three Brosmer,

1019
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 2: that's what you're going left, I'm trying to like it.

1020
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonn just go the whole first quarter, right, So

1021
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 2: you talked about the first two drives. Let's just go

1022
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: the whole first quarter for JJ McCarthy, first quarter one

1023
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty three point one pass rating the entire

1024
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 2: first quarter. Not bad, not bad at all, like if

1025
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:14,479
Speaker 2: they can win games.

1026
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 5: Fifty percent completions, two touchdowns, no interceptions, three sacks, nine

1027
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 5: first downs, seventeen for twenty four sixteen rushes or sorry,

1028
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 5: sixteen rush yards five yards in attempt on rushing. But

1029
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 5: somehow their yards eight point two yards per attempt.

1030
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 2: But somehow we still can't score a touchdown in the

1031
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 2: first half.

1032
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 9: Run.

1033
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe today is the second game of the

1034
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 2: season in fact, that we did not get into the

1035
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 2: end zone at at all. Correct. They did bring that up,

1036
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 2: I heard. I think Pete and Pa were saying that one. Well,

1037
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,479
Speaker 2: that is negative. Let's go to the phone calls. Read

1038
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 2: in Wisconsin, Reid, welcome to Vikings fan line. Hey, Hey,

1039
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: what to do? I try to talk about how bad

1040
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 2: the sole line is. Okay, you pay him so much

1041
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 2: money and they let up five sacks.

1042
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 21: This's just horrible, all right?

1043
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 9: Right?

1044
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 2: Why thanks for listening and calling in. I appreciate it.

1045
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 2: He was sacked five times today. What I would like

1046
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,399
Speaker 2: to know, so the one that any of those sacks

1047
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 2: in the first quarter though, actually I don't think they

1048
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 2: were first quarter. You see light bulbs turning on throughout

1049
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 2: the greater second that one, second through third quarter, second

1050
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 2: through fourth quarter. Sorry, why are you doing this? Yeah, no,

1051
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 2: you have to forty nine. That's his passor rate passeradi.

1052
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 2: It's truly second through fourth quarter. You're truly telling me

1053
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 2: it was buck twenty three or something like that, three

1054
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 2: point one in the first quarter.

1055
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 5: For the rest of the game, the rest of the game,

1056
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 5: he's forty nine pass th d forty nine happened.

1057
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 2: His completion percentage is forty nine point one. Oh my goodness.

1058
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: He has eight in all of his interceptions. He has eight.

1059
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 5: So they didn't count today's game yet because this is

1060
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 5: this is still these stats still only go from like

1061
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 5: the last whatever games because they wait everybody completes their

1062
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 5: game and then eventually the statistician because I'm guessing they

1063
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 5: might take one of those interceptions away when the statistician

1064
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 5: looks at it again, I think that was a strip

1065
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 5: sack that should go under. But eight interceptions, his all

1066
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 5: his eight interceptions. We're in the second to fourth quarter.

1067
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 5: He's not throwing a first quarter interception. All season.

1068
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 2: Okay, in six games. You look, hey, Vikings loving fan

1069
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 2: base looking for positives. First quarter, JJ, so on the checklist,

1070
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 2: first quarter, we can check that check off. All right, Now,

1071
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 2: we got to get the second, third, and fourth, and

1072
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 2: that's what that's what we're trying to do. We got

1073
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 2: six games, we got six games left. Let's by the

1074
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 2: end of the season. If we're going to set goals,

1075
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 2: let's make him first half. We can we get the halftime.

1076
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 2: What about halftime? I was actually again second quarter? Oh,

1077
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 2: I was second quarter.

1078
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 3: JJ.

1079
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 2: Is that a thirty two points aft? That's where it

1080
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 2: goes downhill? That's not good.

1081
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,760
Speaker 5: First quarter, JJ, is great? Second quarter JJ, you got catfished.

1082
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 5: You literally swipe right, and it's not who it was.

1083
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 2: So when he said I become nine, he actually just

1084
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 2: meant nine minutes of game time, correct. Okay, all right? Well,

1085
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 2: I could have been speaking German too. He might have

1086
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 2: just been saying no night. Well I'm saying I'm saying

1087
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 2: no thanks. After you know the we were talking about.

1088
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 2: You talked about the turnovers. I was waiting as it

1089
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 2: just didn't feel like they had it. And it's not

1090
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 2: Miles Price's fault that the team lost the game. I agree,

1091
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 2: but but that was kind of that gut punch, air

1092
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 2: out of the stadium type of field moment when that happened.

1093
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 2: They punch it in a couple of plays later, and

1094
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 2: I was actually allowing myself to think, Ron, well, at

1095
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 2: least he hasn't turned the ball over. At least say that.

1096
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 2: At least just there. These are the thoughts that go

1097
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 2: through my head because I just it's ingrained to me,

1098
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 2: because I'm an adult child. I'm thinking of are there

1099
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 2: any silver linings to this? Hey, at least play a

1100
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 2: clean game and we can talk about our inability to

1101
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 2: stop the run. I mean, a Manu Wilson was fantastic today.

1102
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 2: The mistackles are an issue, and I think that deserves

1103
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 2: some time. But then it truly became a complete game

1104
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 2: for our favorite team in twenty twenty five with the

1105
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 2: two later interceptions. Back to the phone lines here, Dave

1106
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 2: and Albert Lee. Dave, Welcome to Vikings fan line.

1107
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 22: Hey Nordo, Hey Ron, love the show. I have a

1108
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 22: question for Ron. I'm not ready to give up on McCarthy,

1109
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 22: and I agree with ninety nine percent of what you

1110
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 22: guys have said. What I'm wondering is why not give

1111
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 22: Brosmer a shot? And what's more damaging to McCarthy at

1112
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 22: this point, benching him and sending him back to I

1113
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 22: mean training him. They've already they've talked about the basics

1114
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 22: and the feat and everything else and his mental what's

1115
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 22: more damaging venting him or the embarrassment of his performance?

1116
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 22: Why not give Max to see what you've got in Max? Anyway,

1117
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 22: see what's there. Put McCarthy back in school, train him

1118
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 22: and see what happens.

1119
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I appreciate I appreciate it. Dave, uh is

1120
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 2: is he a fake an injury? Is it more damaging

1121
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,720
Speaker 2: to bench him and put bros were in that spot again?

1122
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 2: It would be a problem. I kind of get what

1123
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 2: you're saying. I think that would be the perfect problem.

1124
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 2: Is Hey, this guy looks way better than the kid

1125
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,280
Speaker 2: we drafted. Let's keep let's let's.

1126
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 5: Unless Max Broseman goes in and stinks up the joint.

1127
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 5: Then at last you're like, Okay, well no, we got

1128
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 5: stick with stick with nine.

1129
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 2: So going out there taking five sacks, looking completely helpless

1130
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 2: and hapless for large stretches of games, you nailed it.

1131
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,800
Speaker 2: Basically after the first quarter, good freaking lots. So I

1132
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 2: have another positive for you though, fourth quarter ninety six

1133
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 2: point eight. So it's really just the second and third quarter. Yeah,

1134
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 2: so the middle third, the third quarter is fifteen point three,

1135
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 2: So just only half the game. Half the game. He's

1136
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 2: a complete disaster first quarter, fourth quarter, because again, think

1137
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 2: about it, he leads teams back, he's hot in the

1138
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 2: first he's pretty good in the final frame, and he's

1139
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 2: just a complete second and third mass for half the game.

1140
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 2: And is it Himmer's at the play calling? I mean, well, well,

1141
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, how yeah from a standpoint of I mean,

1142
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 2: whether again running the ball now functionally? And we didn't

1143
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 2: hear the entire press conference, but I would bet if

1144
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 2: that did come up again. Fifteen carries eighty six yards

1145
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 2: in the first half by the backs Mason and Jones.

1146
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 2: Two carries for minus three by those backs in the

1147
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 2: second half. I can already anticipate what you're going to hear,

1148
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 2: is you know we went three and out and I

1149
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 2: believe let me see here, Yeah, you take the sack

1150
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 2: on the first down by Parsons. He's going to say, well,

1151
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 2: that put us at second seventeen, that running the ball

1152
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 2: was no longer an option there, So that's your first possession.

1153
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:01,240
Speaker 2: Then the next possession you do run it with Aaron Jones,

1154
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,760
Speaker 2: you'll lose a yard. Then McCarthy's sacked. It's third and sixteen,

1155
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,280
Speaker 2: so you're not running it there. Like, I can already

1156
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 2: picture if this was talked about and asked what the

1157
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 2: conversation is going to be. It's twenty to six at

1158
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 2: what point, twelve minutes left in the fourth quarter. That's

1159
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 2: when you get your second carry Mason for minus two.

1160
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 2: Then you get Daris saw second and twelve becomes second

1161
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 2: and seventeen because of the false start. Then you get

1162
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 2: an incomplete feel and drops it, and then McCarthy's sacked

1163
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 2: by Devonte Wyatt and Ryan Kelly just gets completely run over.

1164
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 2: I think that's the play where that happens. So I

1165
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 2: can already picture that conversation in terms of why they

1166
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:43,919
Speaker 2: did not run the ball more in the second half.

1167
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, let's look at this, so

1168
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 2: they had fourteen Yeah, they had fourteen minutes of possession

1169
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 2: fourteen ten at halftime. They finished with twenty two. They

1170
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 2: had the ball for eight minutes in the entire second half.

1171
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,240
Speaker 5: Yes, it's not good No, it's not forty four plays

1172
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 5: to sixty five.

1173
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I mean, it's just a hidious. It's hard.

1174
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 2: I mean, you can't wait. There's way to win like

1175
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 2: that if you don't have the ball that you know,

1176
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 2: that's that's not a lot of time.

1177
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 11: With the ball.

1178
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 2: That's why you're a four win team. Doug in Florida, Doug,

1179
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 2: Welcome to Vikings fan line.

1180
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 23: Hey Ron, Hey, Noord, how you guys doing that?

1181
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 10: Good man?

1182
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 3: How are you?

1183
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 23: I'm great, Well, I'm pretty bummed out right now. But

1184
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 23: it's just a couple of comments kind of its found

1185
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 23: on what you had said earlier about tackling issues. My god,

1186
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 23: yards after contact. It's just getting it's getting more ridiculous

1187
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 23: every week. And you know what, I just think this

1188
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 23: team has got. You know, they talk about culture and

1189
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:40,720
Speaker 23: the great culture there.

1190
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 21: In the locker room.

1191
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 9: I don't care.

1192
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 23: I just want them to get tough again, tough in

1193
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,439
Speaker 23: me and be a big tough meats football and push

1194
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 23: some guys around. And they just feel like they get

1195
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 23: they get destroyed every week by teams that are just

1196
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 23: tougher and can and can tackle better, et cetera.

1197
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 9: Another time.

1198
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 23: And I do think that I think these bad drafts

1199
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 23: are just they can't be hidden any longer. And what

1200
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 23: we're having to do with free agency, it's, you know,

1201
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 23: they're they're blowing up on us, and I think we're

1202
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 23: we're in a real train wreck here for the next

1203
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 23: two or four years. Last thing, you know, Roun, I'm

1204
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 23: with you. Maybe Rosma I'm not a Rosma homer, but

1205
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 23: but why not throw them in just to see what

1206
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 23: he's got?

1207
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 9: Thanks Jensen, Yeah, thank you, Doug.

1208
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 2: All right, Ron, you got the right answers. I'm saying,

1209
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 2: we we just we we need finality on this JJ

1210
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 2: McCarthy thing, whether it is hope or despair the fan base. Hey,

1211
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 2: the roops have spoken, and I'm well, first of all,

1212
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 2: I have no power in this comp I just I

1213
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 2: want to see I want to see more from JJ.

1214
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 2: Put a stamp on this thing. I don't want to sit.

1215
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 2: At what point did you think the game was over

1216
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 2: to day?

1217
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 9: Oh?

1218
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 2: I told you when they when they punched it in

1219
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 2: after the after the month. So is that twenty that's

1220
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 2: when they got to twenty?

1221
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 3: Right? We know it was.

1222
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 2: There was ten minutes twenty six to twenty seventeen to

1223
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 2: six it was over seventeen to six. Yeah, it just

1224
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 2: fell that. So that's what I'm saying.

1225
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 5: So, and I'm saying from a stamp point of at

1226
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 5: what point would you have said, let's just throw Max

1227
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 5: out there now?

1228
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 2: Well, actually we have no change. Well actually I'll say this,

1229
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 2: when I really thought it was over, was the next

1230
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 2: possession one of the many three and outs that we won, correct,

1231
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 2: And then they got the field following in the seventeen

1232
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 2: I was twenty to six at that point, field goal.

1233
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 2: Bring Max, bros. We're out to just finish out the

1234
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 2: fourth court well and even yeah Core see. And that's

1235
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 2: the thing is is I am of the mind that

1236
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 2: I just would whether it no matter how bad it

1237
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:29,479
Speaker 2: gets at this stage. That my expectation for this team

1238
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 2: going to the postseason. I mean, you know, even into

1239
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 2: this game, it's a border battle. It's kind of cool.

1240
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 2: You got seven games left. It's like, all right, you're

1241
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 2: trying to do some NFC playoff race math, and you're thinking,

1242
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 2: you probably got to win. You have to win six

1243
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 2: out of your final seven, maybe win all seven. You're

1244
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 2: looking at who are you passing? Are you're passing the

1245
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 2: kiddies and or the Bears in the NFC North, and

1246
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 2: then you're thinking about what's going on out West. We're

1247
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 2: gonna get to see the Seahawks next up. You got

1248
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 2: to probably because one of those two divisions was going

1249
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 2: to send three teams to the playoffs. So I'm just

1250
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 2: kind of doing that math, but still hope wise, it's

1251
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 2: just like, I just want to see the kid. I

1252
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 2: think at this point my entire expectation for the remainder

1253
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 2: of this season is just I need to see the

1254
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 2: light turn on for the kid QB. Otherwise in twenty

1255
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 2: twenty six, I don't have to roll out spring spending

1256
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 2: segments going. I wonder if it's get better. It either

1257
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 2: will or won't, but we're gonna have, hopefully a more

1258
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 2: solidified definition of who McCarthy.

1259
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 5: Can I read you a tweetre so a fan line tweet.

1260
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 5: This comes from Jeff Rowan Tens. He tweeted at three

1261
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 5: Ron Johnson, that's the number three Ron Johnson and Matt producer.

1262
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 5: Next time people hashtag that K fan fan line or something,

1263
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 5: I don't know what, what's the hashtag? We have to

1264
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 5: have a hashtag for this, but he just said, he

1265
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 5: said to Nordo's point, he said, nord I want you

1266
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 5: to know, I don't think the fan interest in Brozemer

1267
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 5: is driven by his Gopher roots. And then he goes

1268
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 5: on about you know, j mag and stat wise he's

1269
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 5: the worst keep being in the league. But you know

1270
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 5: he's saying, it's not just the Gopher side of it,

1271
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 5: it's the just it's the JJ McCarthy lack of is.

1272
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 2: Why there he he specifically is pushing for it. So

1273
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 2: it's so it's more the loathing of McCarthy than it

1274
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 2: is any local connection to Rosmer. All right, I I

1275
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 2: I actually I would have to continue disagreeing with that.

1276
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 2: I think that if if if he had just been

1277
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 2: at New Hampshire, went undrafted, nobody knew about him. He

1278
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 2: flashed a little bit in a PHAs amazing game.

1279
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 5: Here out of New Hampshire. Do you think Kevin O'Connell like,

1280
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 5: because you know, Kevin O'Connell and PJ. They talk like

1281
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:27,919
Speaker 5: once or twice or like twice a week or sorry,

1282
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 5: every two weeks or something like that, like once or

1283
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 5: you know one week or two weeks out forgot how pj'

1284
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 5: worried it, but you know, don't talk every.

1285
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,919
Speaker 2: Once in a while. Sorry, meat sauce in the other room,

1286
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 2: just completely side railed me, sidetracked me, the shirt off.

1287
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 2: Sam Howell was doing nothing true and ripping. Maybe there

1288
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 2: was optimism there. I mean, I think I think bros

1289
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 2: right the best preseason. I think a farther he did.

1290
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 2: I think I think you go even go farther down

1291
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 2: the road. Does he even ever get the opportunity, specifically

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00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 2: at the Vikings if he had not gone to Minnesota.

1293
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 2: So again, I I just how you get there? It's

1294
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 2: all good said that when Josh McCown watched him during

1295
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 2: his pro day and Josh stood there and he like

1296
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 2: Joshus was like, man, this kid can spin the ball.

1297
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 2: Pj's coming over there, telling Josh like, you can trust

1298
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 2: him if you bring him in if he doesn't get drafted.

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Speaker 5: Do you think you guys will bring him in? You

1300
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 5: know all that they were, they were like they had

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01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 5: a plan when they saw him at it's pro day.

1302
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 5: And I wonder how many other teams other than the Vikings, like,

1303
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 5: really watch Max Broverer. You know, I think most of

1304
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 5: them were here for the cornerback. You know, they went

1305
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 5: to the Coats and you know the d linemen broke

1306
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 5: his arm or some er hand, you know. But yeah,

1307
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 5: when you look at all of that, that's that's where

1308
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 5: I think a guy like Max Brosemur had benefited from

1309
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 5: the local angle, but also the fact that.

1310
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 2: Then he took advantage of the opportunity because they.

1311
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 5: Didn't want to bring in another quarterback anyway to compete,

1312
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 5: because that was the other thing, why aren't you bring

1313
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 5: Like Ryan Clark just tweeted that out, like who do

1314
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 5: the Vikings bring in this offseason compete? Because that was

1315
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 5: the whole thing this offically, they don't want to bring

1316
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 5: anybody into compete with JJ.

1317
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 2: They wanted it to be his show.

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Speaker 5: So are they going to bring somebody in this offseason

1319
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 5: even just to be number two and be a solid

1320
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Speaker 5: number two? Or is Max the number two and you're

1321
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 5: gonna give Max a chance to.

1322
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,919
Speaker 2: Start well save for some sort of miraculous turnaround, that's

1323
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 2: they're gonna have to take a different plan of approach

1324
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 2: this offseason. I believe that's Ron Johnson NOBNRDO from nine

1325
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 2: to noon right, fan Line still going strong. And by

1326
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 2: the way, after fan Line concludes, you're gonna get more

1327
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 2: with Vikings overtime with Saucy and Max Fuller as well.

1328
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 2: So continue phone calls. I want to jump into those

1329
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 2: many many many more talkbacks to play as we continue.

1330
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 2: Vikings lose the border battle at Lambeau twenty three to six.

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01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 2: This is Minnesota Vikings football.

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Speaker 14: About that.

1333
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 9: I'm not running the balling out for giving up the running.

1334
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 24: We'll corfe through for like seventy yards in the first

1335
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 24: half and was throwing for I don't know, be through

1336
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 24: for any in the second half. I mean it's at

1337
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 24: some point unless you just want to become a wishbone

1338
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 24: offense and run the ball every down, you got.

1339
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 25: To throw it.

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01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 2: So I don't.

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01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 24: It's not play calling. That's not the problem. I think

1342
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 24: they ran fifteen offense and plays as second. They got

1343
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 24: to convert first downs.

1344
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 2: Passes have to be completed. Thanks for the talkbacks, free,

1345
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. I better read this just to make sure

1346
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Speaker 2: there are no FCC violations before I play it. So

1347
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 2: we heard the one call and I'm in on that talkback.

1348
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 2: Appreciate it. Not the play calling. Well here's another talkback.

1349
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 2: They disagree with that too.

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Speaker 25: Like Kos's play calling, it's absolutely awful for a rookie quarterback.

1351
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 25: It's like he runs the ball just because someone told

1352
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 25: him he should. That kid's going to be good. But

1353
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 25: those defenses don't respect our run game because he gets

1354
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 25: away from it. They just pin their ears back and

1355
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 25: blitz the rookie into oblivion. They're not going to win

1356
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 25: another game unless he fixes that.

1357
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Speaker 9: That's all I got.

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01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 2: Guys, have a good Yeah, I appreciate the talkbacks. I

1359
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 2: will say, you saw it on the drive, well, the

1360
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 2: opening drive was an example. You saw it later as

1361
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 2: well where they were seeing productivity in the run, but

1362
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 2: then the kid wasn't completing the passes. So there is

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01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 2: kind of there. And I've been one of the people

1364
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 2: that has been welcome back to fan line. By the way,

1365
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 2: Vikings lose twenty three to six. You guys have phones,

1366
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 2: you watch the game. You know what the final score was.

1367
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 2: But thanks for listening to your home for Vikings Football

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01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 2: the fan. I'm Nordo from nine to noon. Ron Johnson

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01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 2: is here. I've been one of the people that I

1370
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 2: want to see a much higher commitment with the run game,

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01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 2: and I think that is a support and maybe a

1372
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 2: pressure valve that can help alleviate some of the issues

1373
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 2: we've seen from the kid. But even when you had

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01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 2: it going in the first half, JJ just wasn't making

1375
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 2: the plays and so you know Ko and again fifty

1376
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 2: you hit it. In that first talk back, there like

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01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 2: fifteen offensive plays in the second half. I don't have

1378
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,479
Speaker 2: the specific number, but certainly it was low and maybe

1379
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 2: that's what it was. Uh, fewer opportunities. You're not getting

1380
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 2: the completions. The power of the completions. We heard that

1381
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 2: in the presser from the coach. Maybe not the first

1382
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 2: time I've heard the quote power of the completion. There

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01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 2: were none. So you run the ball. Kid doesn't come

1384
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 2: up with the with the completions. You can't run the ball.

1385
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 2: Michael Parsons team off on you, my goodness. And that

1386
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 2: hit he took on the run, Yeah, not good. There's

1387
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 2: no purpose of doing that. David in Minneapolis, Dave, Welcome

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01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 2: to Vikings fan line.

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Speaker 8: Hey, good afternoon.

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Speaker 26: So I would say that the whole fascination with Brosmer

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01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 26: is more about the fact that the preseason, and I

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01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 26: absolutely understand his preseason. He was decisive with the ball.

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01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 26: The thing with McCarthy, it seems like he holds the

1394
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 26: ball longer than anyone that like, you know, they talk

1395
01:04:56,520 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 26: about like young quarterbacks rushing through their progression rush into

1396
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 26: their throws and getting rid of it quick. He's a

1397
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 26: complete opposite. He holds on the ball ridiculous amount of time.

1398
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 26: I also think that their offensive play calling at times

1399
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 26: is really just bizarre.

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Speaker 9: I mean, like you have TJ.

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01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 26: Hockinson, the guy who's not I mean, I would argue

1402
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 26: he's probably one of the worst tight ends after the

1403
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 26: catch right for getting yardage, And so you put him

1404
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:22,959
Speaker 26: a un third and one.

1405
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 8: And you expect him to get a first down.

1406
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 26: There's so many better players.

1407
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 9: That could have run that.

1408
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 3: There's times when you get in.

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01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 26: The red zone and you have a wheel route to

1410
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,919
Speaker 26: Aaron Jones, you know, throws to him. It's like he's

1411
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 26: your best offensive option in the red zone. And so

1412
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 26: I look at this team at times, like, you know,

1413
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 26: a couple of years ago, they were the most disciplined team,

1414
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 26: hardly any penalties. This year, they're one of the most

1415
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 26: penalized teams in the entire league. Eight false starts at home,

1416
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 26: like and so I then you watch these players drop

1417
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,919
Speaker 26: balls and stuff. It feels like there's like a lack

1418
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 26: of confidence. I watched, you know, justin Jefferson feeling guys

1419
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 26: that have been like the most sure handed receivers the Vikings.

1420
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 9: Have ever had.

1421
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 26: I mean, look at the Buffalo game JJ, JJ makes

1422
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:11,439
Speaker 26: an amazing catch.

1423
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 8: Now they can't make simple catches.

1424
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 25: It's like it feels like this team is losing.

1425
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 26: Confidence in their quarterback and then they're not there offensive

1426
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 26: play callers aren't setting him up for success. So it

1427
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 26: just it's at all feels like it's falling apart really quickly.

1428
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 26: I mean you look at like the average depth of pass.

1429
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 26: He was like two games ago, they said he was

1430
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 26: leading the league at that time for the average depth

1431
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 26: of pass. What happens to like slants, easy little throws

1432
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 26: this guy can make, they will give him success and

1433
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 26: build his confidence and build the team's confidence around him.

1434
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 26: It feels like everyone's kind of losing hope in him

1435
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 26: and they're not setting them up for success. And ultimately,

1436
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 26: I don't know if he's going to be any good.

1437
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 8: You've got this, You've.

1438
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 26: Got a quarterback whisperer, right if he fails here like

1439
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 26: Darnold came here and resurrected his career, if he can't,

1440
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 26: if JJ can't make it work here, really what is he?

1441
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 9: Well?

1442
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 2: I appreciate I appreciate the call, David the the Hawkinson

1443
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 2: push push, My goodness, yeah, what are we doing? They

1444
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 2: try to trick people and it's not tricky, and it

1445
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 2: wasn't tricky. No, you know what, I what I will

1446
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 2: ask to that call in talking about play calling, and

1447
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 2: this is again I think this is a complete cop out,

1448
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 2: So feel free to rip me for it. But that's fine.

1449
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 2: I think it's a cop out. But I still, I

1450
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 2: truly believe in some ways it's difficult for me to

1451
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 2: rip the play calling again. I want to commit to

1452
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 2: the run. I'm gonna be I'm gonna be consistent that

1453
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 2: what if the easy stuff isn't good for JJ? Like

1454
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 2: what if he can't do the easy stuff, and so

1455
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 2: what does he do hard stuff? Well, that's my entire point.

1456
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 2: You you mentioned the Hawkinson play late that led to

1457
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 2: the second pick, and I can't remember exactly what it

1458
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 2: was in the Bears game, but there was a moment

1459
01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 2: I think Kevin O'Connell actually mentioned that there was a

1460
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 2: checkdown and you know, albeit small play within a within

1461
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 2: a long game. You mentioned like that was one of

1462
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 2: his favorite moments. What if JJ can't do the easiest

1463
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 2: You're laughing at me, but there's an element to this

1464
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 2: like KO wants to win games. So I'm not I'm not.

1465
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:17,560
Speaker 2: I'm not full on Kevin O'Connell. Apologies here, that's not

1466
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:20,600
Speaker 2: my point in this. But if Kevin O'Connell wants to

1467
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 2: win games, that caller is correct. The average depth of target,

1468
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 2: specifically even a week or two ago, was like ten

1469
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 2: point three. It was longest in the NFL, I think

1470
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 2: by like two yards by regular starters with one hundred

1471
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 2: plus naps or something like that. Will say you think

1472
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 2: the head coach doesn't want to win games. You think

1473
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 2: he doesn't want to raise the kid on fly on

1474
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 2: the fly by while being competitive, Like, what if the

1475
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 2: kids just not getting it at this stage because we've

1476
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:52,720
Speaker 2: talked about the slants, you're mentioning checkdowns and and that

1477
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 2: that moment pops in my head. I think JJ was

1478
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 2: or KO was proud of JJ for taking the easy one.

1479
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 2: Maybe a little more touch on the short stuff. You know,

1480
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 2: he had to force Aaron Jones to kind of jump

1481
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 2: and then turn on a short pass earlier today. What

1482
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 2: if you just can't do the easy stuff, which then

1483
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:16,679
Speaker 2: signals that's a problem, That signals a significant problem. Jamison

1484
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 2: and Chasco Jamison welcome to Vikings fan line. Hey nordal Ron,

1485
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 2: how you doing? What's going great? Lope? Yeah?

1486
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 3: I to Okay.

1487
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Speaker 18: So I don't know if he saw or if people

1488
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 18: saw this, but Fox had pointed out greg Olsen's footwork

1489
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 18: or the McCarthy's footwork. Greg Olsen I pointed out, I.

1490
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 2: Don't know, is it footwork?

1491
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,600
Speaker 18: Is it mechanics. I mean like it just seems like

1492
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 18: he's just kind of getting worse and worse and worse,

1493
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 18: and you know, to kind of piggyback off of Ron

1494
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 18: and Mortals point from earlier. Yes, we need to run

1495
01:09:57,160 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 18: the football more effectively, more efficiently when you have a

1496
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:08,680
Speaker 18: young quarterback back there, I think just like simplifying the

1497
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,599
Speaker 18: game for him is like kind of like the key,

1498
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 18: you know, quick short throws, Yeah, trying to you know,

1499
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 18: kind of establish you know, like a little bit of

1500
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 18: yards after catch, especially with guys like Naylor and Addison

1501
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 18: and even Jefferson, you know, and then you got t. J.

1502
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:29,560
Speaker 18: Hockinson there. I think that would be like kind of

1503
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 18: like the best thing going forward. But how long of

1504
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 18: a leash does McCarthy have because obviously these games aren't

1505
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 18: going well and we're four and seven at this point,

1506
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 18: and you know, the playoffs seem unlikely.

1507
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 2: Where do we go from here?

1508
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 18: I mean, like, is it like.

1509
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 3: I don't think.

1510
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:52,720
Speaker 18: Brosmer is going to be any better than McCarthy. I'm

1511
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 18: just gonna throw out there. Sorry, Vikings fans, but yeah,

1512
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 18: it's just not looking good. And it's very very disappointing

1513
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 18: that it's right before Thanksgiving and looks like we're I'm

1514
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 18: outside looking in. I'll hang up and listen.

1515
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 2: Thanks guys, Yeah, I appreciate it. And that's kind of

1516
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 2: the question we've been talking about Jamison as well, is

1517
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 2: you know, the leash is the way that you put

1518
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:19,560
Speaker 2: it there. And I'm very agnostic in terms of my

1519
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 2: optimism on what Brosemer can or cannot do. But but

1520
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 2: for me, I'm keeping JJ McCarthy in for the rest

1521
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,719
Speaker 2: of this season as long as he's healthy to play,

1522
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 2: and we're either going to know something, well, we're going

1523
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 2: to know something one way or the other. Is really

1524
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 2: you know, as you mentioned a four and seven operation,

1525
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 2: you got to go six straight to the finish line

1526
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,639
Speaker 2: and then you probably are looking at a Bear's collapse.

1527
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 2: You need the Seahawks to collapse. Part that would be

1528
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:51,759
Speaker 2: Vikings win this weekend out West, that'd be pretty sweet.

1529
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 2: But yes, the playoff opportunities are dwindling. Teams don't look

1530
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 2: at it the same way we do as fans. They

1531
01:11:58,200 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 2: look at just go beat the next team until you

1532
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 2: officially eliminated. But whether there's a dwindling confidence, I mean,

1533
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 2: the damn kind of broke in some respects. I think

1534
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 2: later in the game today with the defense, I mean,

1535
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 2: the tackling was just I mean it was it was putrid.

1536
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 2: It wasn't effective. Emmanuel Wilson I saw some stat in

1537
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 2: the third quarter. I think he had eighty some rushing

1538
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 2: yards and sixty plus of it was actually after the

1539
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 2: initial contact. So he's a baller. You got Mittel's getting

1540
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 2: hurt and hit Man. Hit Man's not hitting too many

1541
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 2: people these days. There are actually maybe some things we

1542
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 2: can get into with that. I got another teas for

1543
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 2: you too.

1544
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:36,920
Speaker 5: We can talk about this, but there's a category Caleb Williams,

1545
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 5: JJ McCarthy and Jayla Hurts are in.

1546
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 2: So there's something off with this and we'll talk we

1547
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 2: can talk about that. A what a tease during fan line?

1548
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:47,640
Speaker 2: Well there's you know, the team loss, so there's no

1549
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 2: mystery there The QB is also brought parties in that

1550
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 2: list too. Oh goodness, here we go. That's Ron Johnson Imnordo.

1551
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 2: Calls are stacked talkbacks in play Vikings lost twenty three

1552
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:02,799
Speaker 2: to six, Vikings fan line leading you up to eventually

1553
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 2: Vikings overtime with Maxie and Saucy looking forward to further conversation.

1554
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 2: There the Wilder in play right now. I don't have

1555
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 2: a score in front of me, but you know what

1556
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 2: to teases what Ron just said, and I'll give you

1557
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 2: a score in the wild game when we return. Vikings

1558
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 2: fan Line, kfan and the Minnesota Vikings Audio Network. Your

1559
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 2: home for all things purple is in one hundred point

1560
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:30,679
Speaker 2: three ks A n the Fan.

1561
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 15: I think you have to make a point on some

1562
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:47,560
Speaker 15: of the sacks as well as a day from Woodbury.

1563
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 2: Sometimes the guy holds the ball forever and the.

1564
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,800
Speaker 15: Pressure is not like he's getting hit from the blind side.

1565
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 15: The pressure is right in front of him. And just

1566
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:58,760
Speaker 15: like when you were talking about Hockinson earlier on the

1567
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 15: play that he gets sacked, about the one he gets

1568
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 15: thrown in the end zone, C J. Ham is wide

1569
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 15: open in the flat waving his arms right in front

1570
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 15: of McCarthy and he doesn't see.

1571
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 2: Him and doesn't throw the ball useless. You know what,

1572
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:15,680
Speaker 2: that's a good I think that talkback's a good way

1573
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 2: to bring you back to Vikings fan line. Vikings lose

1574
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 2: twenty three to six to the Packers. The team is

1575
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 2: now four and seven, six games remaining in afternoon tilt

1576
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 2: in Seattle to cap off Thanksgiving weekend. That's what's ahead.

1577
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 2: But Ron in to break. Actually, I'm gonna I'm gonna

1578
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 2: clamp on this real quick. Ron Johnson's here, I'm nordo.

1579
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 2: How about this? Check out? Cool one O eight because

1580
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 2: the Wild are up one nothing midway well six minutes

1581
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 2: left in the second period. Who got the goal? Of

1582
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 2: course it was Danilla year Off. Why wouldn't it be

1583
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 2: the young Russian in the mix? So on cool one

1584
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 2: owait the Wild assisted by mister Trenton Yakoff. Minnesota up

1585
01:14:54,880 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 2: won nothing on the Winnipeg Jets. To that category that

1586
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 2: you were talking about, Ron Johnson, in terms of JJ

1587
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:06,719
Speaker 2: McCarthy and a few other notable nflqbs, really.

1588
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 5: Good qbs, one of them we're watching right now. Who

1589
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 5: is up about to go down to score again to

1590
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 5: go up twenty eight? To nothing, most likely against the Cowboys.

1591
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,639
Speaker 5: But so Kayleb Williams, JJ McCarthy, brock Purty, Jalen Hurts,

1592
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 5: time to throw, time to throw Kayleb Williams.

1593
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 2: We know he holds the ball.

1594
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:22,680
Speaker 5: That was the big thing for Brian Floor is when

1595
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 5: Kayleb Williams is out, you got a plaster your guy.

1596
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 5: You can't let Kayler Williams get free. Last year he

1597
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 5: has three point twenty nine seconds to throw. JAJ McCarthy

1598
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 5: has three point one six, like three point one six,

1599
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 5: and then he got you got brock Purty three point

1600
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 5: one two, and then you got Jalen Hurts three point

1601
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 5: oh one. So all those guys, they are the only

1602
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 5: four quarterbacks above three seconds to get rid of the

1603
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 5: ball QBR and passer rating three of those guys one hundred,

1604
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 5: ninety six and ninety JJ McCarthy sixty one. So what

1605
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 5: is he not doing with the time he has to

1606
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 5: throw the ball? You look at it, and that's could

1607
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 5: be it. You look at aggressiveness. He's going after it

1608
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 5: because he's got twenty percent of his throats are aggressive. Yeah,

1609
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 5: they're just going to the wrong person, correct, Like they're

1610
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 5: not going to the guy we wanted to go to

1611
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 5: and then you know, you can look at yards to

1612
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:13,680
Speaker 5: throw to the sticks. Right, So a lot of these

1613
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 5: quarterbacks are negative in that, which means they're throwing first

1614
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 5: and ten. They're throwing a six yard route first and

1615
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 5: seven or sorry, second and seven they're throwing a five

1616
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 5: yard route.

1617
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 2: So the first the first, so the water line is

1618
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 2: the first route would be sticks.

1619
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, so a zero would be your throwing ten yard

1620
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:29,599
Speaker 5: routes either beyond the short.

1621
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 9: Ok.

1622
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 2: Correct.

1623
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:33,719
Speaker 5: JJ McCarthy is one of the only quarterbacks two yards

1624
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:36,439
Speaker 5: beyond the sticks on every throw. Now, of course that's

1625
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 5: an average, but that just sounds like the plays are

1626
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 5: called to go for it or and you bought this up?

1627
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 5: Is he not processing it like meat Sauce just walked

1628
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:47,519
Speaker 5: in here and said, C J. Ham is opening the

1629
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 5: flat well.

1630
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 2: Meet Sauce takes the flat meet Sauce was processing that

1631
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 2: free pizza at a super high level. If we timed

1632
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:58,520
Speaker 2: that and we had that in the form of quarterback processing,

1633
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 2: we'd never talk about the QB again other than lauding

1634
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 2: him for for an all pro performance.

1635
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 5: He get a slice of piece of eating before JJ

1636
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 5: McCarthy gets sacked.

1637
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 2: Probably that that's the the next video. So so again,

1638
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 2: I mean just the way this season's gone. It's you know,

1639
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:17,719
Speaker 2: we didn't have the rushing attempts because XYZ situational aspect.

1640
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 2: How is the O line looking today? Well, justin school

1641
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 2: comes in and then Rashan Gary pulls it, you know,

1642
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 2: just absolutely Turnstiles in. I think JJ needs to see

1643
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,559
Speaker 2: that or feel that pressure and move up in the pocket.

1644
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 2: He doesn't. That leads to the first interception or strip

1645
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 2: sack however you want to frame it. And you know,

1646
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 2: how do you judge again, the time to throw though,

1647
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 2: that's a stat that's a number. The nerds are on it.

1648
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 2: Three point ones a lot of time. That's a lot

1649
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 2: of time. And and when Saucy was in here in between,

1650
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 2: I mean just some of the biggest pizza bites you've

1651
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 2: ever seen in your life.

1652
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 12: Uh.

1653
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:54,599
Speaker 2: He did mention that play and I think it led

1654
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:58,559
Speaker 2: to his sack and I think, yes, correct where it's

1655
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:01,600
Speaker 2: just you got Ham, Ham's in motion, He's going to

1656
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 2: come out. That's the easy outlet.

1657
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:03,599
Speaker 9: Now.

1658
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 2: The one thing I will ask though to that end,

1659
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 2: because he's right, I mean, the problem he just JJ

1660
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 2: sat there, didn't really move kind of statue es just

1661
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 2: kind of hopping and then he just gets pummeled. He

1662
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 2: never even turns, and that was front side, going left

1663
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 2: to right. I believe he never even turns to make

1664
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 2: the play to Ham to his left, to his right,

1665
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 2: excuse his right right. Yeah, So I was thinking about TV.

1666
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:31,640
Speaker 2: Ham was motioning near side down correct, and they were

1667
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 2: going left to right, and JJ never even looks at Ham.

1668
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 2: So my question there would be was that actually the

1669
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 2: obvious outlet option was that the main feature of the play,

1670
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:47,599
Speaker 2: or was that let's get that obvious action to move

1671
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 2: a corner or a linebacker to find something over the

1672
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 2: middle potentially, But if it's not there, then you got

1673
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 2: to go to the wide open guy. Three point one

1674
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:58,560
Speaker 2: second season, Like, if you give sees a Ham the

1675
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:01,719
Speaker 2: ball with three cards, four yards of space where guy's

1676
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 2: got to come up and make a tackle.

1677
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:05,439
Speaker 5: I'm gonna put my money on CJ. Ham to run

1678
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:08,639
Speaker 5: through an arm tackle, arm tackle. Yeah, yeah, Like he's

1679
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 5: he's gonna run through. Yeah, he's gonna run through some

1680
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 5: of those dvs. He's gonna outrun the linebackers. Like I forgot,

1681
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 5: I forgot what you can talk, CJ. He told He

1682
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 5: told me about his like yards as a fullback, and

1683
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 5: so I was like, at the time he told me

1684
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:24,759
Speaker 5: it was like seven hundred some yards of like receptions

1685
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 5: or somewhere after contact or something like.

1686
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 3: He was.

1687
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 2: He was very bullish on his ability to catch the

1688
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 2: ball out in space and make people miss. I mean,

1689
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 2: it would be so it would be inappropriate for me

1690
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 2: to start a fan club. But if I did, I

1691
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 2: might start a CJ Ham one. I love CJ and

1692
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 2: running most linebackers, and I don't know CJ can run

1693
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:44,840
Speaker 2: a little bit like he's I mean, Redmond trying to

1694
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 2: chase down Jordan Love today. But but to your point,

1695
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 2: is he not processing that checkdown?

1696
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1697
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 2: Like I don't, is it.

1698
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 5: He's so stuck on I got to get this first down,

1699
01:19:57,640 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 5: or I got to get this seven or eight or

1700
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 5: ten or twelve yard play that I'm forgetting. Let me

1701
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 5: just take the five yard play and maybe being a

1702
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 5: manageable third down or manageable fourth down even because if

1703
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 5: you know you're in four down territory, get the fourth

1704
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:12,479
Speaker 5: and three, get the fourth and two. You don't have

1705
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:14,559
Speaker 5: to get it all on third down when you're losing

1706
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 5: by two touchdowns or three touchdowns late in the game,

1707
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 5: and that's that's what I wonder, is like in the

1708
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 5: game play.

1709
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:21,720
Speaker 2: Scope of it, does he know that?

1710
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1711
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 2: Like is he is he what is he thinking about?

1712
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:27,920
Speaker 2: Or is he thinking about you know, go mon yeah?

1713
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 2: Or is he worried about much?

1714
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 5: I think you know, Hailey Steinfeld and Josh Allen, Like,

1715
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Speaker 5: that's what you're saking about. You can do fan line

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01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 5: and think about that.

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01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 2: I can't. And you you've proven it absolutely earlier. You're

1718
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 2: talking about the Cavender twins and Carson.

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01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:46,200
Speaker 5: I just saw the thing today where they were showing

1720
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 5: their little outfits headed to the game and all the

1721
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 5: sisters are home for Thanksgiving, and.

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01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 2: So you can compartmentalize those things and still do fan

1723
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:55,719
Speaker 2: line clearly, the QB and maybe having.

1724
01:20:55,560 --> 01:21:00,599
Speaker 5: Sum Jackson Dart had a picture of Madison beer because

1725
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:01,560
Speaker 5: we're about to go play it.

1726
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 2: So Jackson Dark can do it. I'm starting, in a

1727
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 2: sense a trend to slash theme in terms of the

1728
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 2: things that you're thinking about right I'm talking quarterbacks. I'm

1729
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:09,759
Speaker 2: thinking about the quarterbacks.

1730
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 5: But Jackson Dark can compartmentalize all of that little stuff,

1731
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 5: the petty stuff, the fun stuff. Again, like is nine

1732
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 5: so caught up? In being this super hyper holistic meditation.

1733
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 5: I get the meditations a part of life, right, that's

1734
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 5: part of his life, all that, the mental health side

1735
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 5: of it, all that, but like, at what point do you.

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01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 2: Just have fun? Like I wonder is he having fun

1737
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 2: right now?

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01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 9: Well?

1739
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 2: Is it the kid or the coaching? And that's what

1740
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 2: I wonder, Like it doesn't look fun.

1741
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 5: Jackson Dart looks like a frat boy, seriously, and him

1742
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:39,720
Speaker 5: AND's camp Scatiba, like they were frat boys out there,

1743
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:42,360
Speaker 5: they were having fun, we'd loser draw they were having fun,

1744
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:44,879
Speaker 5: Like Jason McCarthy.

1745
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 2: Sometimes doesn't look like it's fun. It looks like it's

1746
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 2: pressure carrying Grand Forks Carrie. Welcome to Vikings fan line.

1747
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:59,720
Speaker 6: Thanks guys. Question for you on short yard I think

1748
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:04,720
Speaker 6: point calling on short yardage situations is atrocious, okay, And

1749
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 6: for one thing, they always go into the middle of

1750
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 6: the line.

1751
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 2: There's no imagination.

1752
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 6: They got a two hundred and fifty pounds full back,

1753
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 6: why don't they use them? And then the other thing

1754
01:22:15,080 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 6: I'll call on Brosmer and McCarthy is McCarthy didn't win

1755
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:23,240
Speaker 6: the quarterback job. He was given the quarterback job. Brosmer

1756
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 6: completely played well in the preseason, wasn't even given a chance.

1757
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 2: I'll quipped with that, Yeah, I appreciate the call.

1758
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 5: I mean, they're they're not going to give him a chance.

1759
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 5: Though it's not his team. Max Rosebery is the backup.

1760
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:38,719
Speaker 5: Your job is to hold the clipboard talk to the quarterback.

1761
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 5: Like Max said, he.

1762
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 2: Said, I'm gonna do everything to get JJ ready for

1763
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 2: the week. Right, that's his job. And and by the way,

1764
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 2: that that's also how it works when you when you

1765
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 2: peg it, when you when you pinpoint somebody you want

1766
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:50,880
Speaker 2: to select in the first look at the Cavante turpe.

1767
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:52,720
Speaker 2: But did you see the route? It was just a

1768
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:55,679
Speaker 2: sit in the zone, and that he was the third option. Yeah,

1769
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 2: he just sat Look at this. Why it's this? He's pointing,

1770
01:22:58,160 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 2: you go this way? You get that? Oh, yeah, there

1771
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:01,800
Speaker 2: you are. It was he was the third option and

1772
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 2: he was able to miss, make a guy miss, and

1773
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 2: he's out the gate. Now again they're still losing twenty

1774
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 2: one and nothing.

1775
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:08,559
Speaker 5: And by the way, people, sorry, we're watching the Eagles

1776
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:10,759
Speaker 5: Cowboys game and I'm just yeah, for sure, And Nordo,

1777
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:14,679
Speaker 5: what top down looks like he had a deep post.

1778
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 5: He had a deep goat and then he came back

1779
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 5: to Turpin, who was the hook who technically could be

1780
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 5: the running back in that situation.

1781
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 2: Just go to the go to the third option. So

1782
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:26,400
Speaker 2: here's what I know, eleven games into the season, twelve

1783
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 2: weeks is we've been talking about very very similar things,

1784
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:34,679
Speaker 2: whether it's where's the slants, the easy stuff, just getting

1785
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 2: guys in space, letting athletes do their work. Let's try

1786
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:41,640
Speaker 2: to simplify it for McCarthy, et cetera. And again, you know,

1787
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 2: it's it's good that we have this outlet in this

1788
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 2: opportunity to do it. And maybe sometimes the coaches of

1789
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:50,639
Speaker 2: the teams don't like that that we're sitting here as outsider.

1790
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 2: It's just the ignorant roubes that we are complaining about it.

1791
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 2: I just think eleven games in, you think Ko hasn't

1792
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 2: tried to put a slant in the mid Yeah, you

1793
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:04,600
Speaker 2: think Ko hasn't at some point? Gone, man, we just

1794
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 2: need to get eighteen with some grass in front of them.

1795
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:10,240
Speaker 2: Restep drop and speaking of eighteen, take some heat off

1796
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 2: the kids. Like I'm starting this and I'm just I'm

1797
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 2: building this in my own neurotic head, my own neurological

1798
01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:20,679
Speaker 2: pathways are being rewired as I speak that, I think

1799
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 2: maybe the kid just doesn't get the easy stuff. So

1800
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 2: there is something fundamentally freaking wrong right now that even

1801
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 2: the coaching staff inside that building are trying to work

1802
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:33,840
Speaker 2: their way through on a weekly basis.

1803
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 5: And eighteen just said this, So Justin Jefferson, this is

1804
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 5: from Alec Lewis. It's frustrating. It's frustrating to lose. It's

1805
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 5: frustrating to be up here saying some things every single week,

1806
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 5: every single week, expectations we're expected to change every single week.

1807
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 5: The following week, we're gonna change it. We're gonna change it,

1808
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 5: and we're still in the same spot. We've just got

1809
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 5: to figure it out. Yeah, that sounds like frustration to me.

1810
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:58,720
Speaker 5: That sounds like frustration, and that sounds like.

1811
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 2: The probably the justin jeff In corporate response. I don't

1812
01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:06,560
Speaker 2: think a J. Brown would have responded this way. I

1813
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:07,519
Speaker 2: don't I don't think a J.

1814
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 5: Brown would have had this type of like AJ Brown

1815
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 5: would have called his quarterback out.

1816
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:13,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we talked about this during the feast or

1817
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 2: his coach, which is probably not the right way to

1818
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:20,600
Speaker 2: do it. So by by by highlight, high end, highly compensated,

1819
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:26,879
Speaker 2: highly touted NFL athlete standards. JJ has handled this situation

1820
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 2: with perfectly, exceptionally well, that is definitely not sadly when

1821
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 2: it comes to the highly touted, highly accolades, highly compensated

1822
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:39,639
Speaker 2: NFL athlete, that is not the standard. No, it should

1823
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 2: be the standard, but it's not. Well, yeah, that's just

1824
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 2: that's you know, that's a train wreck for a team

1825
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 2: that's figuring out how to handle adversity. They got brock

1826
01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:49,599
Speaker 2: perty with a ton of time to throw the Samuel

1827
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:54,040
Speaker 2: the NFL, and we're trying to figure out how to

1828
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 2: get win number five. We can't win a border battle

1829
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:58,519
Speaker 2: where non competitive the QB either gets it or doesn't.

1830
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 2: And here we are, as at this point in time,

1831
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:05,919
Speaker 2: we're going to say good evening and have a terrific,

1832
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 2: awesome Thanksgiving week. Happy Thanksgiving to all of you. Hope

1833
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:13,320
Speaker 2: you're feasting. The Vikings Audio Network. The next time you're

1834
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:15,320
Speaker 2: gonna hear from us is a week from today as

1835
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:18,839
Speaker 2: the Vikings travel to Seattle to take on Sam Darnold

1836
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 2: that one YEP and the Seattle Seahawks and at that point,

1837
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 2: trying to find win number five after a brutal throttling

1838
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:30,720
Speaker 2: at the border battle in Lambeau earlier Today, Vikings lose

1839
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 2: twenty three to six and are now four and seven

1840
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:36,760
Speaker 2: live programming, kicking off with the morning show tomorrow at

1841
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:39,439
Speaker 2: five thirty Rainy Days and Mondays nine to noon style

1842
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:42,479
Speaker 2: with the montage I'm on that, and we'll continue to

1843
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 2: build you up into the holiday weekend. Hopefully the Vikings

1844
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 2: find their way out in the cappuccino capital. As PA

1845
01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:50,559
Speaker 2: would say, wild up one nothing on the Winnipeg Jets.

1846
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:51,479
Speaker 2: That's on cool one o.

1847
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Speaker 9: Wait.

1848
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Speaker 2: This is Vikings Fan Line with Ron Johnson and fans

1863
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 2: Eric Norton Quist twenty three to six, the final a

1864
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 2: border battle battering. Sadly your favorite team was on the

1865
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:12,559
Speaker 2: wrong end of it. Welcome to Vikings fan Line on'm

1866
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:14,720
Speaker 2: Nordo from nine to noon. Ron Johnson is with me.

1867
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 2: Thanks to all of those listening on the greater Vikings

1868
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Speaker 2: Audio Network that jumped on over to the flagship one

1869
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Speaker 2: hunder point three FM the fan also via the free

1870
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Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. And oh how about this end of two

1871
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 2: periods a fan family cool one O eight wild up

1872
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 2: to nothing on the Winnipeg Jets. It was brock Faber

1873
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 2: final couple minutes of the second period to make it

1874
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 2: too nothing in favor of your favorite team. I'm excited

1875
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:43,880
Speaker 2: to do a Black Friday game Friday afternoon, going to

1876
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 2: the matinee at the x oh Grand Casino Arena. We're

1877
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:49,800
Speaker 2: gonna have to work on that Grand Casino Arena. Grand

1878
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 2: Casino Arena Grand Casino Arena. Why am I talking about

1879
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:55,560
Speaker 2: the hockey team for the first sixty seconds of this

1880
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:57,840
Speaker 2: particular segment, because it pains me to talk about the

1881
01:28:57,880 --> 01:29:00,559
Speaker 2: football team as they fall to four and seven. JJ

1882
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 2: McCarthy trying to pull morsels in terms of his progression,

1883
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:08,760
Speaker 2: didn't see much today. Defense can't tackle the run game

1884
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 2: without Josh Jacobs. You're thinking how much that might mean

1885
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:15,120
Speaker 2: to the Packers' offense, specifically Jordan Love. Well, you'd have

1886
01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:17,439
Speaker 2: to stop the run to make it mean something to

1887
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 2: Jordan Love. As Emmanuel Wilson goes for one oh seven

1888
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 2: on the ground, nothing explosive, just a long run of twelve,

1889
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 2: but he was consistent buck forty six, forty two carries.

1890
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:30,720
Speaker 2: It felt pretty comfortable today. The Packers did. Helps when

1891
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 2: you're playing with the lead. Helps when your team keeps

1892
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 2: turning it over. So that's where we stand, and let's

1893
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:39,160
Speaker 2: jump to the phone lines here. Adam in Arizona, Adam,

1894
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:40,439
Speaker 2: Welcome to Vikings fan line.

1895
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:43,360
Speaker 21: Good afternoon, gentlemen.

1896
01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:45,000
Speaker 9: How are you well?

1897
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 21: Thank you so good good ron. This is more directed

1898
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:53,200
Speaker 21: towards you. When does the how long did it take?

1899
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:53,720
Speaker 3: You know?

1900
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:56,240
Speaker 21: When you're playing as bad and you're getting coached as bad,

1901
01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 21: and your GM and all the draftics are as bad.

1902
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 21: How long does it take before the players start rebelling?

1903
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 10: Start this?

1904
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 21: You know, just not even which they may already have.

1905
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:09,800
Speaker 21: You're not listening to kot anymore, not having fun. You know,

1906
01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:12,439
Speaker 21: give two rats asks about going out there playing, you

1907
01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:16,720
Speaker 21: know how long before he starts seeing it? Making is

1908
01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:19,600
Speaker 21: very obvious, you know when you get out on the

1909
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:22,040
Speaker 21: field and inside the lock of them, I guess is

1910
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:25,000
Speaker 21: probably the bigger question. And then you know, I, as

1911
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:27,320
Speaker 21: much as as I've said as I am about this

1912
01:30:27,400 --> 01:30:30,960
Speaker 21: whole season, I just can't help but think that this

1913
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:34,639
Speaker 21: organization did it to themselves again with the starting quarterback

1914
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:38,439
Speaker 21: situation again. You let You had Kirk Cousin, which I

1915
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:41,160
Speaker 21: wasn't the huge Cousins a fan, but he was definitely

1916
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:44,960
Speaker 21: better than JJ. You had Daniel Jones, you had Sam Donold.

1917
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:47,599
Speaker 21: You let them both go, assuming that this twenty two

1918
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 21: year old kid who threw thirty percent of the time

1919
01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:54,000
Speaker 21: in college we'd come into the NFL fourteen and threeteen

1920
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:58,720
Speaker 21: and excel and actually do something. And then you and

1921
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 21: then everybody surprised me. And the results are like this

1922
01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:04,120
Speaker 21: because really, in reality, if you look back to the

1923
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 21: last season. This started last season, we're at four and

1924
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:11,559
Speaker 21: nine now in the last thirteen games, and they most

1925
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 21: of them have not even been close. We had one

1926
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:18,400
Speaker 21: key win, which is the Detroit Lions win. But since then,

1927
01:31:18,479 --> 01:31:21,519
Speaker 21: and really since the last second Gether, it's like their

1928
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:24,519
Speaker 21: last game the last season. There's been no fighting the team,

1929
01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 21: there's been no progression in the quarterback see and then

1930
01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 21: the season ticket holder, I guess my question to you

1931
01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:33,720
Speaker 21: is why should I renew my tickets when I don't

1932
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:36,840
Speaker 21: see any future or anything that is, I don't look

1933
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:40,560
Speaker 21: forward to anything with this team moving forward because the

1934
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:44,120
Speaker 21: Wilts everybody in this organization.

1935
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:44,599
Speaker 9: Is so set.

1936
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:47,880
Speaker 21: It seems like they're set on mediocrity. And they're so

1937
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:50,920
Speaker 21: afraid to call this coach out, so afraid to call

1938
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:54,320
Speaker 21: this GM out. The GM is terrible, Just say it.

1939
01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:57,800
Speaker 21: He sucks at his job. The coach can't change. He

1940
01:31:57,960 --> 01:32:00,960
Speaker 21: is the Zimmer of offense. He is so stubborn, and

1941
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:03,479
Speaker 21: so I'm willing to get out of his own way

1942
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:07,120
Speaker 21: to make changes and make adjustments that it's going to

1943
01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:09,400
Speaker 21: cost him his job, you know. And all I hear

1944
01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:12,200
Speaker 21: in the background is TikTok, TikTok, because that's that's really

1945
01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:14,559
Speaker 21: the clock is ticking on these guys, and then I'm

1946
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:17,240
Speaker 21: not gonna gonna lie. It can't come soon enough as

1947
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:20,320
Speaker 21: far as I'm concerned. I know the nupupation with the quarterback,

1948
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:24,200
Speaker 21: but there is no progression nationally. These guys are getting

1949
01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:27,640
Speaker 21: ripped from the top bottom about their decision to let

1950
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:31,640
Speaker 21: other quarterbacks go and bring this guy in. And as

1951
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:34,640
Speaker 21: I said, we have no future. I have nothing to

1952
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:36,400
Speaker 21: look forward to you as far as this team.

1953
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 10: Goes in the future.

1954
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:41,000
Speaker 21: So I know he's going to sugarcoat it and everybody's

1955
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:44,200
Speaker 21: gonna be nice to Kot and the media asks all

1956
01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:46,800
Speaker 21: these softball questions. But when the summery's going to step

1957
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:50,000
Speaker 21: up and actually start holding these guys accountable and start

1958
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:53,400
Speaker 21: putting some fire to defeat and asking the tough questions,

1959
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:56,040
Speaker 21: you know, And it's frustrating as a fan. I fly

1960
01:32:56,240 --> 01:32:58,439
Speaker 21: up every game. We have my wife and I at

1961
01:32:58,479 --> 01:33:01,040
Speaker 21: Arizona where we're looking calib hownaway. Did the same thing

1962
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:05,120
Speaker 21: go overseas? You know, it's frustrating. It's frustrating as a fan,

1963
01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:07,800
Speaker 21: and you know, why should I put my energy into

1964
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:10,240
Speaker 21: this team like that, I can not get anything in return.

1965
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:13,920
Speaker 21: And by the way, to find JJ eighteen. I'm trying

1966
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:15,639
Speaker 21: to get the hell out of here as soon as possible.

1967
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:18,439
Speaker 21: He needs to go because he's in the prime of

1968
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:20,240
Speaker 21: his career and it's getting wasted.

1969
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:23,360
Speaker 2: So all right, well I answer all those questions. I'm

1970
01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:26,320
Speaker 2: gonna answer all your questions for you. Appreciate the call. Yeah, thanks,

1971
01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:27,160
Speaker 2: thanks for the call.

1972
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:27,400
Speaker 4: Man.

1973
01:33:27,479 --> 01:33:29,000
Speaker 5: First of all, he's going to keep his tickets and

1974
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:31,200
Speaker 5: go to games because it's fun and that's what Minnesotans do.

1975
01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:31,479
Speaker 9: Well.

1976
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:33,680
Speaker 2: First of all, let it out, loved it at him,

1977
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 2: Appreciate it, and it's the couch, you know, sit sit

1978
01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:40,280
Speaker 2: on our couch. We'll we'll listen to your problems people.

1979
01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:40,519
Speaker 9: You know.

1980
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 2: It's interesting though, he's going to go.

1981
01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:44,080
Speaker 5: He's gonna go to games. That's what That's what Vikings

1982
01:33:44,120 --> 01:33:48,960
Speaker 5: fans do. Sure you go, like that's one two. I

1983
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:50,840
Speaker 5: don't know if there is an answer as far as

1984
01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:54,160
Speaker 5: the Max Brozeman versus JJ McCarthy, right, I don't think

1985
01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:57,400
Speaker 5: justin Jefferson, the answer is leaving unless there's like the

1986
01:33:57,479 --> 01:33:59,559
Speaker 5: Eagles want you because a J. Brown, you know, wants

1987
01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:01,120
Speaker 5: to leave. But I don't think AJ Brown wants to

1988
01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:03,599
Speaker 5: come to this, so that's not an answer.

1989
01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:06,599
Speaker 2: Okay, but what about so to I mean, the crux

1990
01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:09,040
Speaker 2: of it before, you know, it was more or less

1991
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:10,800
Speaker 2: just like let's get a first round pick and then

1992
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:13,800
Speaker 2: you just break it all down. So one thing though,

1993
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:17,160
Speaker 2: I am curious based on his call though, is when

1994
01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:19,360
Speaker 2: when do you reach a point of a season. I

1995
01:34:19,439 --> 01:34:22,680
Speaker 2: mean you can't predict you know, Jefferson requesting and trade this,

1996
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 2: that and the other thing. And you know JJ brosm

1997
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:29,240
Speaker 2: or whatever. Team's got four wins and he's mentioned, you know,

1998
01:34:29,400 --> 01:34:32,639
Speaker 2: draft picks, you bring in veterans with injury histories. We're

1999
01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:34,960
Speaker 2: starting to see that play out on the field, the

2000
01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:40,479
Speaker 2: mistackles like you know, the is there resentment potentially that Hey,

2001
01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:42,759
Speaker 2: our defense goes out there, We're on the field freaking

2002
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:45,880
Speaker 2: forever and I just need something from the offense. It's

2003
01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:49,920
Speaker 2: not happening twelve weeks into the season, that same competitive

2004
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:52,759
Speaker 2: fire that brought me to this point, maybe it starts

2005
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:55,479
Speaker 2: to peter out a bit. You know, how does that

2006
01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:58,120
Speaker 2: work in the locker room? You know, I can't imagine

2007
01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:01,120
Speaker 2: on defense, I'm not I got too much to think

2008
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:02,720
Speaker 2: about A lot of the times where I can't just

2009
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:05,840
Speaker 2: sit there and just be you know, infuriated at all

2010
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:08,479
Speaker 2: times by the offense. But how does that work in

2011
01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:10,680
Speaker 2: terms of at some point in the season, players just

2012
01:35:10,720 --> 01:35:14,439
Speaker 2: start looking around and it's like, huh, this is awful

2013
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:16,759
Speaker 2: and now I'm thinking God going to Cabo.

2014
01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:21,360
Speaker 5: Guys definitely lose faith in the situation, Like they might

2015
01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:23,960
Speaker 5: not outwardly show it because you can't do that, like

2016
01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:26,880
Speaker 5: I mean, unless you're Brandon Nyuk, you can't.

2017
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:29,439
Speaker 2: You know, Brandon now youk is like, man, I screwed

2018
01:35:29,479 --> 01:35:31,559
Speaker 2: this circle? So Keishean Johnson?

2019
01:35:31,560 --> 01:35:34,000
Speaker 5: Remember when Keshan John's with the Buccaneers and Grooton said, hey,

2020
01:35:34,040 --> 01:35:35,080
Speaker 5: look just don't come back.

2021
01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:36,080
Speaker 2: We will pay you.

2022
01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:38,680
Speaker 5: You can still win a super Bowl with us, But

2023
01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:41,559
Speaker 5: this is not working out your personality with what we're

2024
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:44,080
Speaker 5: trying to do. It doesn't work right, Keishawn said out

2025
01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:48,479
Speaker 5: they still won a super Bowl. It happens to the

2026
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:50,600
Speaker 5: degree of like who are you though, Like who are

2027
01:35:50,680 --> 01:35:52,800
Speaker 5: you in the situation that you can do that. Certain

2028
01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:54,639
Speaker 5: guys can do it and it won't put a red

2029
01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:57,240
Speaker 5: mark on their resume, you know, Like I think people

2030
01:35:57,240 --> 01:35:59,519
Speaker 5: would understand if justin Jefferson were to kind of lose

2031
01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:01,000
Speaker 5: it a little bit, but I don't think that's in

2032
01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 5: his nature. Like, I don't think that's who Justin Jefferson is.

2033
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:06,639
Speaker 5: He's a great guy, Like, I don't think he would

2034
01:36:06,640 --> 01:36:09,040
Speaker 5: do that, like Stefan Diggs faked the sickness and just

2035
01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:12,080
Speaker 5: stayed home. You know, I'm sick, I don't feel good.

2036
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 5: I'm not coming in, man, I remember being there for

2037
01:36:15,160 --> 01:36:15,960
Speaker 5: that pressure, like.

2038
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:19,040
Speaker 2: You know, like at the hood on. Yeah, fake sickness,

2039
01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:21,040
Speaker 2: like my head hurts, my tummy hurts.

2040
01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:21,439
Speaker 3: Like.

2041
01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:23,640
Speaker 5: I don't think Justin Jefferson's that guy, but I do

2042
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:26,120
Speaker 5: think there's some frustration, like him and Keithan mccardelli probably

2043
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:28,800
Speaker 5: having conversations about this. I'm pretty sure, you know, like

2044
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:32,720
Speaker 5: you said, simplifying the offense, slants, hitches, bubble screens, like

2045
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:34,160
Speaker 5: the bubble screens that they didn't even work.

2046
01:36:34,479 --> 01:36:36,639
Speaker 2: But again, is that the code? How is it being

2047
01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:37,920
Speaker 2: worded right?

2048
01:36:38,040 --> 01:36:40,559
Speaker 5: Because there are certain words that say tunnel screen versus

2049
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:41,160
Speaker 5: bubble screen.

2050
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:44,800
Speaker 2: Clearly either a word was off, something was off.

2051
01:36:44,920 --> 01:36:47,160
Speaker 5: Somebody didn't get the call right on the fourth and

2052
01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:50,760
Speaker 5: one run, I'm gonna have to watch it back. But

2053
01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:53,680
Speaker 5: three guys blocked one guy is, which is how I

2054
01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:55,920
Speaker 5: think what Shan Gary came through and blew it up. Yeah,

2055
01:36:57,160 --> 01:37:00,720
Speaker 5: somebody id'd the front incorrectly, meaning whoever they named the mic.

2056
01:37:01,360 --> 01:37:04,840
Speaker 2: Somebody counted wrong after that, Like if you you said

2057
01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 2: earlier it was just counting, you said it was so

2058
01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:08,160
Speaker 2: eat it. It is simple, right.

2059
01:37:08,240 --> 01:37:09,680
Speaker 5: But like if the quarterback comes to the line the

2060
01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:12,720
Speaker 5: script again pre snap, he's the best quarterback we've ever seen,

2061
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:14,719
Speaker 5: But if he's coming to line of scrimmage, he says

2062
01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:18,040
Speaker 5: Mike fifty two or Mike whatever, Mike number one. I mean,

2063
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:20,640
Speaker 5: at one point the mic was freaking if Mike is

2064
01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:23,760
Speaker 5: number one, If Michael Parson is the mic, I'm calling

2065
01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:25,720
Speaker 5: time out because something's.

2066
01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:25,920
Speaker 2: Not right here.

2067
01:37:26,439 --> 01:37:29,240
Speaker 5: He's about to kill us. Like it's like seeing Michael

2068
01:37:29,320 --> 01:37:32,400
Speaker 5: Myers come walking around the corner. You just keep trigger treating. No,

2069
01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:36,599
Speaker 5: you go to the next state, you move, you get

2070
01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:37,120
Speaker 5: out of there.

2071
01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:37,920
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

2072
01:37:37,960 --> 01:37:38,320
Speaker 9: Like that.

2073
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:42,000
Speaker 2: That's where when I saw Michael Parsons, I said, whoa, whoa, whoa,

2074
01:37:42,200 --> 01:37:43,800
Speaker 2: Why is he standing up on third down behind the

2075
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:45,920
Speaker 2: behind the dtacle Time out timeout, coach.

2076
01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:48,479
Speaker 5: We haven't talked about this one, Like, who's blocking him? Yeah,

2077
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:50,800
Speaker 5: how many are you gonna help me? Like Kevin Hart

2078
01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:55,519
Speaker 5: when he was doing that comedian thing, help me help me?

2079
01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:57,840
Speaker 5: Like that's what that's what I can't finish the rest

2080
01:37:57,880 --> 01:38:00,800
Speaker 5: of it, maxims when neck comes next, But that's what

2081
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:01,519
Speaker 5: you have to do.

2082
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:04,360
Speaker 2: Max may or may not know that one. Max knows. Yeah,

2083
01:38:04,479 --> 01:38:06,360
Speaker 2: I know you know what's next.

2084
01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:11,439
Speaker 5: But somebody has to identify that, right, So if the

2085
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:13,920
Speaker 5: IDs are off, if the number counts off, like you said,

2086
01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:17,000
Speaker 5: it's simple, but maybe it's not. Maybe there's too much

2087
01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:19,000
Speaker 5: coaching in this. Fourth and one should not be a

2088
01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:22,080
Speaker 5: tough run play. It should just be we're man blocking

2089
01:38:22,160 --> 01:38:23,880
Speaker 5: these guys. Who's got who?

2090
01:38:24,439 --> 01:38:24,760
Speaker 2: Say it?

2091
01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:27,920
Speaker 5: Like in basketball, you say who you're guarding. I got

2092
01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:30,840
Speaker 5: Anthony Edwards, I got Lebron, I got this. Like, there's

2093
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:32,479
Speaker 5: no reason to hide what you're doing on fourth and

2094
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:34,080
Speaker 5: one when you're running the ball. Everybody should know who

2095
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:37,599
Speaker 5: they're blocking. But to the quarterback of this, there could

2096
01:38:37,640 --> 01:38:40,479
Speaker 5: be something off. Now here's a text right from mem

2097
01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:44,759
Speaker 5: right Pat Kesler's wife GMT at Fox, and she says,

2098
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:47,760
Speaker 5: why not have Max Brozman finish out the game when

2099
01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:50,760
Speaker 5: it's essentially out of reach? And let JJ McCarthy learn

2100
01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:54,679
Speaker 5: standing next to the quarterback coach or the head coach. Okay,

2101
01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:58,040
Speaker 5: what's your thought to that? Like, are you opposed to that?

2102
01:38:58,680 --> 01:39:00,559
Speaker 5: Because he didn't get to learn last year standing up?

2103
01:39:00,680 --> 01:39:02,120
Speaker 5: He was, you know, he was on the boot Hey,

2104
01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:06,519
Speaker 5: sky U my nation. I like Max Brosemur, just like

2105
01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:09,880
Speaker 5: you like Max Brosmur. The kid we currently have in

2106
01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:12,160
Speaker 5: that isn't progressing needs the rep But do you think

2107
01:39:12,200 --> 01:39:14,880
Speaker 5: he learned from that though watching Max Brosman go through

2108
01:39:14,920 --> 01:39:15,720
Speaker 5: the reps in the fourth quarter?

2109
01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:18,519
Speaker 2: See, but I don't know because I'm not seeing him

2110
01:39:18,560 --> 01:39:20,760
Speaker 2: progress and learn on the field field right, Okay, but

2111
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:23,160
Speaker 2: we also like, I don't know if benching him is

2112
01:39:23,240 --> 01:39:26,160
Speaker 2: the right answer. That could be mentally devastating. Maybe I

2113
01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:28,599
Speaker 2: don't know. None of this has gone the right way.

2114
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:31,679
Speaker 2: He misses his entire rookie season. We got the ankle

2115
01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:33,880
Speaker 2: bit that takes him out of what five games? Yep,

2116
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:37,479
Speaker 2: he has to play and Seattle is good, he has

2117
01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:40,200
Speaker 2: to play. The next team up is good. So yes

2118
01:39:40,439 --> 01:39:43,360
Speaker 2: they are. They're really good. And he's probably not going

2119
01:39:43,439 --> 01:39:45,400
Speaker 2: to get better in Seattle either. And it's never been

2120
01:39:45,439 --> 01:39:47,839
Speaker 2: good in Seattle's from Minnesota. It's never been good. At Seattle.

2121
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:49,519
Speaker 2: I don't know why they keep sending them there. I

2122
01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:51,240
Speaker 2: get whatever, how do they have to keep going to Seattle?

2123
01:39:51,320 --> 01:39:53,560
Speaker 2: I get what everybody's I get what everybody's saying, and

2124
01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:56,640
Speaker 2: maybe maybe I'm just I'm just standing alone here the

2125
01:39:56,720 --> 01:39:59,640
Speaker 2: final six games of the season, if JJ McCarthy get

2126
01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:02,360
Speaker 2: the Packer and again, yeah, and they're gonna be here,

2127
01:40:03,240 --> 01:40:05,200
Speaker 2: and we know how well it's gone at home, right,

2128
01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:08,120
Speaker 2: and you got the Lions. I understand. I I can

2129
01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:10,840
Speaker 2: get the schedule in fun, it's it's it's tough. I

2130
01:40:10,920 --> 01:40:13,000
Speaker 2: think there's the Giants in the mix. They were game

2131
01:40:13,080 --> 01:40:15,840
Speaker 2: that took the kiddies to overtime. Yeah, I get it. Yeah,

2132
01:40:16,040 --> 01:40:18,519
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, oh, yeah, they did take that. My

2133
01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:21,720
Speaker 2: vision of this is that if he is healthy enough

2134
01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:25,240
Speaker 2: to play, he has to get to get every single

2135
01:40:25,439 --> 01:40:28,080
Speaker 2: freaking rep. And if he loses every game going down

2136
01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:31,160
Speaker 2: the stretch, and then what four and I live. Yeah,

2137
01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:33,599
Speaker 2: well it's four and twelve, four and four thirteen, four

2138
01:40:33,640 --> 01:40:36,920
Speaker 2: and thirteen, and you got a top five pick, and

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01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:39,400
Speaker 2: then we can spend all off seasons. As the caller

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01:40:39,479 --> 01:40:42,559
Speaker 2: did the season ticket holder saying the GM is bad

2141
01:40:42,600 --> 01:40:44,519
Speaker 2: at his job, right, and so then we can spend

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01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:46,560
Speaker 2: segments trying to figure out how we're going to not

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01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:49,000
Speaker 2: mess up the top. I mean, you got Washington in

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01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:51,200
Speaker 2: there too, though, so you could maybe beat the Commanders.

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01:40:52,040 --> 01:40:54,680
Speaker 2: You got Dallas. I don't know about that one. I

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01:40:54,720 --> 01:40:57,160
Speaker 2: think we're entering the territory. We're winning games no longer,

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01:40:57,360 --> 01:40:59,360
Speaker 2: no longer matter. New York's the only give me. I

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01:40:59,360 --> 01:41:00,920
Speaker 2: feel like New York and Washington might be the only

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01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:03,479
Speaker 2: give me. Maybe. I think we're beyond the point where

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01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:06,800
Speaker 2: winning the game matters is the it's the quarterback now.

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01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:08,920
Speaker 2: Now I need the players to go out and you know,

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01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:11,919
Speaker 2: they they want to perform at their best, which ultimately

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01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:14,960
Speaker 2: then means collectively, if it happens, they're going to win

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01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:18,519
Speaker 2: a game. But I think from my standpoint, the a

2155
01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:20,559
Speaker 2: topic is is this going to work?

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01:41:20,680 --> 01:41:21,240
Speaker 9: Or is it not?

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01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:25,240
Speaker 2: Through six? It's definitely not work if it doesn't.

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01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:28,639
Speaker 5: So JJ McCarthy does this the next six games looks

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01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:30,519
Speaker 5: just like this eighty seven yards passing?

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01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:33,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, then you're investigating the combination of free agency in

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01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:37,760
Speaker 2: the draft or potentially you know Max Max is going

2162
01:41:37,800 --> 01:41:41,519
Speaker 2: to have that legit competition opportunity in twenty twenty six. Yeah,

2163
01:41:41,560 --> 01:41:44,800
Speaker 2: it has to. Yeah, that's Vikings fan Line. We're going

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01:41:44,840 --> 01:41:46,640
Speaker 2: to continue on a couple of short segments around the

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Speaker 2: corner before we pass the baton to Vikings overtime, including

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01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:53,880
Speaker 2: for a team that didn't score a touchdown today. I

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01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:57,600
Speaker 2: am going to find a local Chevy Dealers drive of

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01:41:57,640 --> 01:41:59,439
Speaker 2: the game. I can't wait to do it, and that's

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Speaker 2: why you'll stick with us around the corner. I got

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Speaker 2: some talkbacks to fire off as we put a rap

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Speaker 2: on this thing. Twenty three to six the final at

2172
01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:09,679
Speaker 2: Lambeau Vikings now four and seven. They lose to the Packers.

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Speaker 2: Vikings fan Line Ron Johnson's here, I'm Nordo fan and

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Speaker 2: the fan radio network. All right, welcome back fan Line.

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Speaker 2: Two more segments to go here, Let's fire off. Let's

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01:42:23,880 --> 01:42:25,360
Speaker 2: fire off some talkbacks here.

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Speaker 12: Hi, guys, say listen. I think what people are forgetting

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01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:32,960
Speaker 12: a little bit is it? Max Brosmer and McCarthy both

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01:42:33,040 --> 01:42:36,360
Speaker 12: were Big ten quarterbacks. They played in the same league,

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01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:40,839
Speaker 12: they played against the same competition. So even though Brozemer

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01:42:40,880 --> 01:42:42,760
Speaker 12: didn't get drafted, it doesn't mean that he might not

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01:42:42,880 --> 01:42:45,680
Speaker 12: be better than McCarthy. I don't know the answer. I'm

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01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:48,080
Speaker 12: just thinking that we're thinking about Brosemore a little bit wrong.

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01:42:48,160 --> 01:42:51,519
Speaker 12: You should probably think of them as nearly equal and

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01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:52,679
Speaker 12: then go from there.

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Speaker 2: Thanks by Yeah, I'm not mad at I'm not mad

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01:42:56,360 --> 01:42:58,040
Speaker 2: at that opinion at all. He's also what a year

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01:42:58,080 --> 01:43:00,960
Speaker 2: and a half or so older. Again, I'm not I'm

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01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:04,400
Speaker 2: not out on giving Brozmer a chance. I just think

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01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:08,160
Speaker 2: maybe not right now. Second and third quarter? Yeah, go

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01:43:08,280 --> 01:43:11,000
Speaker 2: first quarter McCarthy, second to third quarter, Roseman, then the

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Speaker 2: fourth quarter. Let McCarthy win it for the middle, for

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01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:14,880
Speaker 2: the middle thirty.

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Speaker 27: Hey guys, hey melo up here in Alaska?

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01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:18,360
Speaker 2: What up?

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01:43:18,479 --> 01:43:22,479
Speaker 27: Hey, since the season's over, can they just play like

2197
01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:27,439
Speaker 27: preseason now and put maybe jjy in for the first

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01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:30,160
Speaker 27: half and rosemar in for the second half and then

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Speaker 27: see who's going to be good for next year? And

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01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:36,080
Speaker 27: maybe should they bring in a bridge quarterback for next

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Speaker 27: year since McCarthy's obviously not ready yet.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, but yeah, thanks for the talkback. I will say

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01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:46,200
Speaker 2: that maybe is becoming more of a gatsta in terms

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01:43:46,240 --> 01:43:49,040
Speaker 2: of the competition at the quarterback season. We still we

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01:43:49,120 --> 01:43:53,320
Speaker 2: still got time chance. They have a one percent chance

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01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:55,559
Speaker 2: of making a playoffs at four and seven. Well, again,

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01:43:55,680 --> 01:43:58,960
Speaker 2: it's I mean, so you're saying there's a chance for me.

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01:43:59,439 --> 01:44:02,800
Speaker 2: You know, we move, We got to move our expectations

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01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:06,400
Speaker 2: potentially to the idea of not getting to the postseason

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01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:09,559
Speaker 2: as much as we are getting run out of the QB,

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01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:12,120
Speaker 2: to see something could be a miracle story. That's what

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01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:18,439
Speaker 2: what am I listening to right now? All right? That

2213
01:44:18,560 --> 01:44:21,680
Speaker 2: Johnny Randall? Yeah little TV? Okay, I think that from

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01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:26,320
Speaker 2: the still playing Oh Sweet Well soundtrack? Who was that

2215
01:44:26,479 --> 01:44:30,120
Speaker 2: was that? Johnny Randall's just say it was John Randall,

2216
01:44:31,160 --> 01:44:33,000
Speaker 2: Joe from Brooklyn Park going in.

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01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:35,760
Speaker 28: I know, you got to give JJ McCarthy time to

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01:44:35,800 --> 01:44:38,599
Speaker 28: develop as a quarterback. But the reality is our coach

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01:44:38,680 --> 01:44:41,160
Speaker 28: has the nickname quarterback Whisperer for a reason. You know,

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01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:44,200
Speaker 28: we've seen him get four hundred yards of offensive production

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01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:47,080
Speaker 28: out of Nick mallins, and granted that usually came with

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01:44:47,160 --> 01:44:49,400
Speaker 28: two or three picks, but this guy's throwing two or

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01:44:49,439 --> 01:44:51,760
Speaker 28: three picks anyway without the four hundred yards.

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01:44:52,240 --> 01:44:53,040
Speaker 2: So maybe instead of.

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01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:55,160
Speaker 28: Being a quarterback whisperer KOs he should turn into a

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Speaker 28: quarterback screamer.

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01:44:56,439 --> 01:45:01,559
Speaker 2: Thanks, I haven't thought of that. Potentially, the volume up

2228
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:04,559
Speaker 2: on which the in which the information is being offered

2229
01:45:05,120 --> 01:45:07,120
Speaker 2: just needs to pump that up a little bit. How

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01:45:07,160 --> 01:45:09,240
Speaker 2: about this, ladies and gentlemen, in a twenty three to

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01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:12,719
Speaker 2: six game, the local Chevy Dealers brings you the drive

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01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:14,800
Speaker 2: of the game. Now, I had many to choose from?

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01:45:15,360 --> 01:45:17,719
Speaker 2: Is this the backers drive? Many snarky three and outs,

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01:45:18,320 --> 01:45:21,560
Speaker 2: and just from a principal from a principal perspective, I

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01:45:21,680 --> 01:45:25,800
Speaker 2: can't choose an Emmanuel Wilson touchdown or something like that.

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01:45:25,920 --> 01:45:28,960
Speaker 2: I will choose a Vikings drive in which they open

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01:45:29,080 --> 01:45:31,720
Speaker 2: the game seven plays, thirty one yards and kick the

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01:45:31,760 --> 01:45:32,240
Speaker 2: field goal.

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Speaker 29: This will be fifty two yards right hash and Andrew

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Speaker 29: de paul Is snaps, Ryan right holes, snap spot right kirt, big,

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Speaker 29: right footed kick is up and it is good.

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01:45:48,479 --> 01:45:50,840
Speaker 2: And that's your local Chevy Dealers drive of the game. Hey,

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01:45:51,240 --> 01:45:54,120
Speaker 2: we can't be mad at the kicker. We can't be

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01:45:54,240 --> 01:45:57,320
Speaker 2: mad at the punter. So there again, Silver Linings. In

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01:45:57,360 --> 01:46:00,080
Speaker 2: every game your team is a four win Operations. They

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01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:01,880
Speaker 2: lose today twenty three to six, but they did have

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01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:05,519
Speaker 2: the lead. You just heard audio proof that just a

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01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:07,599
Speaker 2: couple of minutes into that game, with twelve fifty three

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01:46:07,720 --> 01:46:10,920
Speaker 2: remaining in the first quarter, the Vikings were ahead three

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Speaker 2: to zero. First quarter McCarthy. As we've already talked about

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Speaker 2: in detailed Vikings fan line, thank you so much to

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01:46:17,240 --> 01:46:20,240
Speaker 2: our local Chevy Dealers drive of the game, hoping my

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01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:23,360
Speaker 2: favorite team offers up more options. A week from today,

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01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:26,599
Speaker 2: we'll pause final segment fan line around the corner as

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Speaker 2: we finalize our thoughts and hand things off to Saucy

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01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:35,639
Speaker 2: and Max Fuller. Here on the fan final segment Vikings

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01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:38,560
Speaker 2: fan line the baton Toss the cross talk for a

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01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:40,920
Speaker 2: few minutes here featuring meet saus Paul Lambert of the

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01:46:40,920 --> 01:46:44,120
Speaker 2: Power Trip Morning Show. He and Max Fuller taking over

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01:46:44,240 --> 01:46:46,519
Speaker 2: for you. Here is we run you up to Sunday

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01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:50,400
Speaker 2: night football coverage and eventually a Sunday night football game,

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01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:53,920
Speaker 2: Wild on Cool one Away. We're up to nothing into

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01:46:53,960 --> 01:46:56,760
Speaker 2: the second intermission and so you can check on them.

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01:46:56,800 --> 01:46:59,519
Speaker 2: They're in Winnipeg. This evening loved the current winning ways

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01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:01,679
Speaker 2: of the hockey team. Do not like the current losing

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01:47:01,720 --> 01:47:03,880
Speaker 2: ways of the football team. Twenty three to six. The

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01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:06,640
Speaker 2: final at Lambeau Border Battle Throttling at the hands of

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01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:10,040
Speaker 2: the pack meets us, what do you think? What's ahead?

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01:47:10,320 --> 01:47:12,320
Speaker 2: What is the prevailing theme for you?

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01:47:13,439 --> 01:47:13,599
Speaker 3: Now?

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01:47:13,720 --> 01:47:17,760
Speaker 2: For a four win team, six to go, technically mathematically

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01:47:17,840 --> 01:47:20,960
Speaker 2: still alive, they'd actually have to win basically every game.

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01:47:21,040 --> 01:47:22,920
Speaker 2: So let's not let's not go nuts and start talking

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01:47:22,960 --> 01:47:25,960
Speaker 2: about that kind of thing. Just what at this stage,

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01:47:26,080 --> 01:47:28,960
Speaker 2: what we're seeing kids throwing two picks a game. It

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01:47:29,040 --> 01:47:31,200
Speaker 2: feels like he's good for a couple turnovers a game,

2277
01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:35,160
Speaker 2: no touchdowns today? What do you think it's weird?

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01:47:35,240 --> 01:47:38,760
Speaker 30: Because you know, I've listened to most of the show

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01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:40,920
Speaker 30: and you always say it, Nordal, You're a rube.

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01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:43,479
Speaker 2: That's what makes this fun. You and I are rubes. Yeah, roube.

2281
01:47:43,520 --> 01:47:45,640
Speaker 2: I'm a fan first correct. I'm going to root for

2282
01:47:45,680 --> 01:47:47,800
Speaker 2: them to beat Sam Darnold and for the kid to

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01:47:47,840 --> 01:47:50,680
Speaker 2: show a pulse our guy next week. I don't think

2284
01:47:50,760 --> 01:47:54,720
Speaker 2: he can. Yeah, I just I'm not as negative as

2285
01:47:54,760 --> 01:47:55,360
Speaker 2: it sounds.

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01:47:56,000 --> 01:48:00,080
Speaker 30: When we the play that we've talked about you, we

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01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:01,960
Speaker 30: all talked about me, You and Ron talked about it

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01:48:02,040 --> 01:48:02,519
Speaker 30: off the air.

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01:48:03,400 --> 01:48:05,480
Speaker 2: When you have those two players.

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01:48:05,200 --> 01:48:09,400
Speaker 31: Running a perfect route where you're gonna just dump it off,

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01:48:09,880 --> 01:48:14,120
Speaker 31: not gun it, not some deep elaborate throw over the

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01:48:14,240 --> 01:48:17,000
Speaker 31: middle right where where you were gonna.

2293
01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:20,160
Speaker 2: Dump it off basically to Jones, and he's just gonna

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01:48:20,360 --> 01:48:21,439
Speaker 2: follow him up.

2295
01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:24,479
Speaker 30: For fifteen let a guy run, let the guy, let

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01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:27,120
Speaker 30: the guy do the work for you when you can't

2297
01:48:27,160 --> 01:48:30,280
Speaker 30: even do that because you're so gun shy.

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01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:32,200
Speaker 2: I want the kid to succeed.

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Speaker 11: I do.

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01:48:32,960 --> 01:48:34,680
Speaker 2: I was meeting him, they drafted him.

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Speaker 30: We thought that was gonna be one of the best

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01:48:36,800 --> 01:48:39,960
Speaker 30: nights in Vikings history, was that draft, because they got

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01:48:40,000 --> 01:48:42,479
Speaker 30: their guy, then they got you know, their guy.

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01:48:42,680 --> 01:48:47,360
Speaker 2: Then they got Dallas Turner, who has played better. He's better, And.

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Speaker 30: I don't know, like I we're at the point now

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01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:55,559
Speaker 30: where like, do you trust the guy making the picks?

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01:48:56,120 --> 01:48:56,519
Speaker 31: Do you like?

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01:48:57,640 --> 01:49:00,599
Speaker 30: Yeah, you have no All we've talked about is how

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01:49:00,680 --> 01:49:07,200
Speaker 30: much you've spent this offseason. You got no depth, zero

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01:49:07,479 --> 01:49:10,880
Speaker 30: depth because of how many swings and misses. It's not

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01:49:11,120 --> 01:49:15,200
Speaker 30: just one guy they have had in the draft, collaborati.

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01:49:15,520 --> 01:49:19,480
Speaker 31: You've missed on all of them except for Addison, who's useless.

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01:49:19,120 --> 01:49:22,960
Speaker 30: In this offense. And that's the quarterback. Uh, the best

2314
01:49:23,000 --> 01:49:25,599
Speaker 30: wide receiver in football. Who have a different regime picked

2315
01:49:26,120 --> 01:49:28,600
Speaker 30: your left guard? Is he did he not play the

2316
01:49:28,680 --> 01:49:31,360
Speaker 30: second half? Was he hurt foot injury or ankle?

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01:49:31,479 --> 01:49:31,679
Speaker 3: Maybe?

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01:49:31,760 --> 01:49:31,960
Speaker 8: Yeah?

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01:49:32,040 --> 01:49:34,639
Speaker 2: And I like him though same, I love I think

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01:49:34,680 --> 01:49:38,040
Speaker 2: he's fine. But like the Lewis Cne thing is terrible.

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01:49:38,160 --> 01:49:40,800
Speaker 2: And even Dallas Turner then we've been waiting a while

2322
01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:43,280
Speaker 2: to start seeing as sound sure the best player they've

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01:49:43,280 --> 01:49:46,200
Speaker 2: ever drafted as well. Riker Man, he's good, isn't he?

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01:49:46,360 --> 01:49:46,559
Speaker 31: Yeah?

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01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:48,519
Speaker 2: But I like the kid Kicker. Yeah, it's awesome.

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Speaker 30: When you don't have any depth and you don't have

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01:49:50,640 --> 01:49:53,280
Speaker 30: anything like that, you're in trouble. When the first team

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01:49:53,320 --> 01:49:57,120
Speaker 30: and I and you're you're one hundred thousand percent correct.

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01:49:57,880 --> 01:50:00,559
Speaker 30: If Max Brosebern went to Toledo, no one would give

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01:50:00,600 --> 01:50:05,040
Speaker 30: a rip, right, The Minnesota thing is whatever that Max.

2331
01:50:04,920 --> 01:50:06,960
Speaker 2: Understand why it's happening. You have to play him.

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01:50:07,080 --> 01:50:10,360
Speaker 30: We have to play JJ has to do yes, because

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01:50:10,360 --> 01:50:13,800
Speaker 30: if you go to Broswork it's essentially over. Yeah, for

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01:50:13,920 --> 01:50:16,519
Speaker 30: a while, at least you gotta see what you got

2335
01:50:16,600 --> 01:50:18,960
Speaker 30: in the kid. I thought maybe you'd play better on

2336
01:50:19,040 --> 01:50:22,479
Speaker 30: the road. You've lost three straight. He's horrific. I mean,

2337
01:50:22,560 --> 01:50:27,160
Speaker 30: you went punt punt, punt, interception, interception. That's hideous. That's

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01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:29,639
Speaker 30: one of the worst second halfs of football I've ever seen.

2339
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:32,600
Speaker 30: And we lived through forty one meat sauce against the

2340
01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:35,200
Speaker 30: Giants in that NFC champion four yards of offense in

2341
01:50:35,240 --> 01:50:39,200
Speaker 30: the second four. Yeah, four, it's a total system failure.

2342
01:50:39,240 --> 01:50:40,960
Speaker 30: I think that's the type two. Actually, I'm still going

2343
01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:42,240
Speaker 30: to say that they lost a yard.

2344
01:50:42,560 --> 01:50:46,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you think it's three. I think, well, I have

2345
01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:47,400
Speaker 2: no idea.

2346
01:50:47,760 --> 01:50:49,479
Speaker 5: They got fourteen yards in the fourth and then the

2347
01:50:49,640 --> 01:50:52,840
Speaker 5: negative ten quickly they went uh in the third quarter,

2348
01:50:52,920 --> 01:50:57,599
Speaker 5: they went three plays two yards, three plays negative twelve yards.

2349
01:50:57,680 --> 01:51:01,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, three plays minus seventeen. Now we're seventeen under one

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Speaker 2: play interception. Five plays twenty six yards in an interception,

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Speaker 2: So technically that's minus one. Yeah, based on the ESPN

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Speaker 2: drive chart. So where did this? Where do these other

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Speaker 2: five mysterious yards come from? I don't trust it, Ron,

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Speaker 2: but I'm just.

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Speaker 5: Going off the official stat sheet from NFLGSIS. That's it,

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Speaker 5: unless they're going to update it. I mean, we'll check

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Speaker 5: again later tonight once the official one gets entered in.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's do this, let's pass the baton. Excited on

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Speaker 2: my way home to hear you and Max Fuller as well.

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Speaker 2: Vikings lose twenty ninety to the quarterback. They're now four

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Speaker 2: and seven, and well, I just let the kid play

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Speaker 2: it out. I can't. I'm I'm going to figure it

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Speaker 2: out before nine to noon tomorrow, but I'm struggling with

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Speaker 2: the optimism as we enter this stage of the season

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Speaker 2: right now. Thank you so much for listening, to appreciate

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Speaker 2: the calls and texts and talkbacks and all of that.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to Ron Johnson for joining Max Fuller for producing

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Speaker 2: cool computer noise is all of those things I'm thankful

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Speaker 2: for on a Sunday next up at Seattle, But live

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Speaker 2: coverage on the Power Trip starts at five point thirty tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: Rainy Days and Mondays. Montage nine to noon style kicks

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Speaker 2: that off, and we'll cover things through the holiday into

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Speaker 2: the game Sunday afternoon. Happy Thanksgiving if you don't hear

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Speaker 2: from us on the fan before then, But next it'll

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Speaker 2: be Vikings overtime with Saucy and Max Fullerm Nordo. Everybody,

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Speaker 2: have a terrific night. Thanks for listening to Vikings fan

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Speaker 2: line on the Fan and the radio network. Take care, everybody,