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Speaker 1: Hey, good morning, Welcome to the Big Outdoors News Radio

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Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati. Chipard again with you this morning.

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Speaker 1: Trying to drag Tom Cross in. But he had some

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Speaker 1: kind of silly construction meeting for an office that they're building.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, you know, just build a thing, right,

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Speaker 1: Why do you have to have a meeting?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 1: I mean that's what's wrong with the business world, Danny.

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Speaker 1: There are too many meetings. And believe me, I was

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Speaker 1: in the business world for a long long time.

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Speaker 2: We have too many around here.

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Speaker 1: Nothing, ever, good comes as a result of a business meeting.

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Speaker 1: Tom Beache, Buckeye United fly Fishers, I'm sure you've had

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Speaker 1: your share of meetings over the course of your career.

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Speaker 3: Oh you bet.

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Speaker 4: I spent over twenty five years in the power plants

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Speaker 4: and then went to a sales So yes, I know

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Speaker 4: all about meetings.

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Speaker 1: Now, how about the meetings of of of the fly

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Speaker 1: fishing community?

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Speaker 2: Are they? Are they muck raking? I mean does everybody

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Speaker 2: get down in dirty?

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Speaker 1: I mean is there name calling? I mean, do you

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Speaker 1: guys accomplish things?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Not only do we accomplish things, but we catch fish. Ok.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what the best place to have a

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Speaker 2: The golf course.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 2: That there you go. Now now you're talking all right.

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Speaker 1: You have the Cincinnati fly Fishing Show coming hosted by

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Speaker 1: the Buck Guy United Flyfishers. And uh you you told

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Speaker 1: me off air that this is the biggest show in

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Speaker 1: the in the Midwest.

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Speaker 2: Now who by whose standards? Okay? Is this did this

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Speaker 2: come out of a meeting?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 4: We have more vendors, uh, more presentations and we have

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Speaker 4: the best door prizes and raffles going.

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Speaker 2: Okay, when is it?

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Speaker 4: It's well, it's actually a two day but only one

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Speaker 4: day for the exhibitors and the show. But on the

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Speaker 4: on Friday, February the sixth, Yeah, we have some classes

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Speaker 4: for a masterclass on angling by our headliner named Josh Miller.

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Speaker 4: He's from Central and western Pennsylvania. He's going to do

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Speaker 4: two classes which are already filled up. And then we

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Speaker 4: have three classes for fly tires given by j R.

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Speaker 3: Jackson. Jr.

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Speaker 4: Jackson is a former president of the Buckeye United fly

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Speaker 4: Fishers but is now residing in Albany and fishes the

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Speaker 4: Catskills in Vermont and New York upstate New York and

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Speaker 4: all that kind of stuff got you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So that is This is all at the Oasis

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Speaker 2: Center out there off of is that Ward's Corner?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Off in Loveland there yet?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, So how many vendors are you expecting this year?

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Speaker 4: We have seventy three booths, oh wow, and some of

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Speaker 4: those are all vendors. We do have some nonprofits, like

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Speaker 4: Casting for Recovery Project, Healing Waters, we have the Higher DNR,

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Speaker 4: et cetera. We have people with kayaks and canoes and

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Speaker 4: fly rods and you know, nets and all kinds of

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Speaker 4: have we're one of the few shows in the country

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Speaker 4: that have an actual casting pond where you can try

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Speaker 4: out a new rod if you want to bring yours,

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Speaker 4: and we can work with you and show you how

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Speaker 4: to cast it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, how much backcasting room do I have behind me?

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Speaker 4: More than you can more than you can ask for.

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Speaker 2: I just I need to check, Okay. I mean that

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Speaker 2: that's a pretty important factor.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yes it is.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but I'm not a very good you know cast

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Speaker 1: or I'm not you know, I'm not you know what

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Speaker 1: you call a purest fly. I love the fly fish.

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Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, but my face creeks, and I

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Speaker 1: love my role cast. You know, I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: It is just such a just an easy, fun, cool

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Speaker 1: so what just give us a rundown of the hours.

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Speaker 1: We're going to hit a brake here, but we're goant

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Speaker 1: to come back and you know, get some real nitty

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Speaker 4: On Saturday, February the seventh, The show runs from nine

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Speaker 4: am to four pm. It's fifteen dollars to get in

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Speaker 4: the door and you'll also as soon as you for admission,

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Speaker 4: you get a raffle ticket to get a door prize

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Speaker 4: on your way out, so you can you got a

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Speaker 4: chance to for a drawing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well this is awesome. We're gonna get a break

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Speaker 1: in here, come back and hits up for some the

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Speaker 1: real nitty gritty chip Hard Tom Batchee with Bucket United

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Speaker 1: fly Fishers, the Cincinnati fly Fishing Show Oasis Center on

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Speaker 1: the Big Outdoors News Radio seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati. Hey,

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Speaker 1: we're back once again the Big Outdoors thirty one years

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Speaker 1: on the Big one News Radio seven hundred WLW Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: when you started, no kidding, you still act like you're seventeen.

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Speaker 1: My man, thank you, because I have a lot of

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Speaker 1: fun and I enjoy what I do around here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you do. You do a lot around here. I

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Speaker 2: mean it's just unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: You handle Willie's show on Sunday Night five hundred plus stations.

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Speaker 2: That's a full time job on itself. Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, especially with him.

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Speaker 2: Thank god he doesn't fish, he would suck at it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: The Buckeye United Flyfishers could probably make Willie Cunningham look really,

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Speaker 1: really good.

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Speaker 2: Yes, what do you think, Tom? Is that an idea?

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Speaker 4: We can make anybody look good if you put the

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Speaker 1: I remember there was a there was a way to

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Speaker 1: practice fly fishing where you had a fly ride, but

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Speaker 2: A piece of yarn on the end. Is they they

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Speaker 4: When we're when we're practicing our casting in the backyards.

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Speaker 3: And and all that stuff. Yes, that we still do that.

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Speaker 4: In fact, uh, as members of Buckeye United fly Fishers.

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Speaker 4: Every Wednesday and even today. Uh, we have a group

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Speaker 4: work on their casting. They do it at Coddle Park.

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Speaker 4: They're in Westchester. Oh cool Wednesday morning? Is that?

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Speaker 2: Is that all all winter long?

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Speaker 4: Too? If the temperatures of both forty they're out there

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Speaker 2: What are we? What are we fly fishing for right now?

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Speaker 2: On this neck of the woods, by.

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Speaker 4: The way, not a whole lot there are in say

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Speaker 3: Believe it or not.

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Speaker 2: What kind of fly would you be using?

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Speaker 2: Are you using a sinker? Used a flying? I don't.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know a lot about the you know,

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Speaker 2: You know. Usually don't know if I matched the hats.

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Speaker 2: Typically I don't. Okay, they still eat it well.

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Speaker 4: And that's one of the things that because we go

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Speaker 4: distinctions I make as a fly fisherman. In my tackle box,

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Speaker 4: we have flies that can imitate anything that these fish

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what I saw guy fish before?

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Speaker 1: You know, obviously it's the traditional tackle you know, spinning

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Speaker 4: I'm not a very experienced saw guy fishermen, but I

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Speaker 4: have potter me and I've got them on streamers and basically.

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Speaker 3: Most most streamers imitate bait fish, right. So yeah, as

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Speaker 2: Okay, good good stuff, good stuff.

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Speaker 1: So okay, going back to the since NAT Fly Fishing Show, Uh,

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Speaker 1: where are our outfitters coming from all over?

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Speaker 4: We've got Maggie Valley Fly Shop coming up from North

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Speaker 4: We've got people coming from uh, Michigan and Pennsylvania, Indiana, Kentucky,

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Speaker 4: to mention Jim sower Haveber. He guides on the Cumberland

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Speaker 4: River below the Cumberland am Cool. I've been with him

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Speaker 2: Oh Man.

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Speaker 1: And I've used to I've used to fish below the

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Speaker 1: damn with a guy named Randall Gibson. He was never

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Speaker 1: a fly fisherman, but that's where your big stripers are,

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Speaker 1: and that's where your big trout are. There is no

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Speaker 1: He actually had the state record at one point in time.

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Speaker 1: Tom we got ahead a short break, so you sit tight.

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Speaker 1: More to come on the Sunny Fly Fishing Show, The

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Speaker 2: Hey, we're back the.

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Speaker 1: the fun and games of Gary, Jeff Walker and his

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Speaker 1: The iHeartMedia app. Tom Baite's with me since the fly

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Speaker 1: Fishing Show. Tom, Welcome back. So we are coming up

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Speaker 1: to February seventh, and then on the sixth you have

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Speaker 1: the special seminars for those that signed up and you're

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Speaker 1: all full. That tells you something you're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: add more next year.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I wanted to mention that some of the other

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Speaker 4: people that will be at the.

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Speaker 2: Show, this is your half hour, take it all right.

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Speaker 4: Well, Jeff Liskey, he's a guide up on Lake Erie

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Speaker 4: Great Lakes fly fishing. I've been with him also, and

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Speaker 4: I've my son got a twenty eight inch walleye with him,

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Speaker 4: and I got are you kidding me? Big sheephead with

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Speaker 4: him too, which are great on fly rod too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Now what kind of water are you fishing?

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Speaker 1: I mean, are you fishing the traditional uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: You fishing short? What are you doing?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's definitely around some structure that might be out

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Speaker 4: we were I think the deepest we were in was

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Speaker 4: about twenty five thirty feet So with a fly rod,

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Speaker 4: you know, you got to have a good sinking line

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Speaker 2: So we have that's the key, the tea, the sinking line.

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Speaker 4: That's when you're in deep water like that around the lake.

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Speaker 4: You want to get that your bait down to where

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Speaker 1: Really it's got less to do with the bait than

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Speaker 4: We were using streamers, so yeah, you've got some weight

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Speaker 3: Fish because that's what they'll they're mim that's what.

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Speaker 4: They're eating up there on the lake. So that's why

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Speaker 4: we're using streamers and the sinking line to get them down.

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Speaker 2: Okay? Who well, what else you got?

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Speaker 1: And so really you're you're focused on primarily the Midwest

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Speaker 4: No nobody from out west. But we do have like

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Speaker 4: the tucka CG Fly Shop. They also do a Montana

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Speaker 4: and we also have several booths of of people that

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Speaker 3: So we've got a lot of that going on.

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Speaker 4: Yes, we're we've got stuff there for that. And you

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Speaker 4: that's just a saltwater fly. No, really, it's a bait

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Speaker 1: So yeah, but the hook is important too, because wouldn't

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Speaker 2: Just do whatever you want.

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Speaker 1: What you're saying, right, I mean, that's the fun of

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Speaker 4: Well that plus you know, you want to you want

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Speaker 2: All right? Well, good, good, good good? What do we

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 1: Is there any used like kayaks and boats or float boats.

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Speaker 4: There might be, but we'd have to talk to the vendors.

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Speaker 4: Most of that stuff is really new, so we've got that.

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Speaker 4: But we've also have a uh a fly fishing one

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Speaker 4: eleven o'clock on Saturday morning and followed by a women's

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Speaker 1: Awesome, well, this is fantastic Tom coming up February seventh.

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Speaker 2: Tickets are how much? And can you get them online?

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Speaker 2: Are they at the door?

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Speaker 3: Just get them at the door. Fifteen bucks.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll see you there.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for your time this morning, Tom, and I know

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Speaker 1: you'll have a great event.

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Speaker 2: Snow, rain shine.

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Speaker 4: Whatever, that's right, We'll be there all right.

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Speaker 1: Here we go. Of course, you heard about the Worthington

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Speaker 1: city approved sharpshooting program to take out deer. Well, here

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Speaker 1: we have a plaintiff decided to sue them because he's worried.

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Speaker 1: Is name is Kevin kallan resident with young children. Gee,

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Speaker 2: He has safety concerns for his children and the lack

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Speaker 1: to think they're all pre approved, pre qualified.

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Speaker 2: Okay, whack them and stack them. People. Forget the lawsuit,

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Speaker 1: More than fifty bears were harvested in Florida during their

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Speaker 1: first Florida bear hunting season.

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Speaker 2: Hallelujah.

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Speaker 1: Guess what good wildlife science will tell you that your

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Speaker 1: that I'm gone. Gary Jiffson's next to Big Outdoors News

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