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Speaker 5: How about and Red Lakes off to a heck of

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Speaker 5: a start, took the series from the Socks, took the

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Speaker 5: first game from the Pirates. Keep it going boys. Nice

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Speaker 5: debut by Jose Franco. You know, seeing Franco in the

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Speaker 5: back of the reds Jersey takes you back to the

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Speaker 5: eighties there John Franco and people out there leaking these

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Speaker 5: possible City connect uniforms. I like the red with the

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Speaker 5: black pinstripes. Still not fond of that logo. See, I

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Speaker 5: can't decide if it either looks like bacon or an

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Speaker 5: old stove burner top.

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Speaker 4: See, man, you and I differ a little bit, Kevin,

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Speaker 4: because I think the sea is the best part of

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Speaker 4: the uniform. We'll talk about those potentially leaked uniforms coming up.

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Speaker 1: When South Duba came in, he was biggest cooked off

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Speaker 1: twenty that towns Now.

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Speaker 5: He's a good with that thick sid ray.

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Speaker 6: You know, he rakes so good.

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Speaker 1: So that big sad hell ray.

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Speaker 7: You know he Thank you a Audi EJ on the

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Speaker 7: East End about these colorful color announcers for college basketball. Yes,

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Speaker 7: Bill Walton, who you and I both love, Rafty. I

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Speaker 7: want to take you back a generation to Al McGuire,

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Speaker 7: former head coach at Marquette who partnered with dick Enberg

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Speaker 7: back in the day. Wonderful. Thanks for playing that clip

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Speaker 7: of the Duke call yesterday on the Yukon winning shot.

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Speaker 7: Like you said, so Duke to be calling for the technical.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, it's just the most duke thing ever

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Speaker 4: for them. Oh, that was not supposed to happen, the

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Speaker 4: most duke thing ever for them to call for the

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Speaker 4: technical right away. Also, I'll be honest, I think Dan

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Speaker 4: Hurley should have been called for a technical.

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Speaker 1: I really do.

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Speaker 4: The more I watch that video, the more I'm bothered

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Speaker 4: by it. More on that later too.

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Speaker 8: Hey, Austin, Steve Montgomery. The one thing I would ask

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Speaker 8: Katie Blackburn is if she learned from the history of

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Speaker 8: what happened when they didn't sign both Leon Haull on

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Speaker 8: Jonathan Joseph and they spent the next ten years trying

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Speaker 8: to get a solid cornerback duo, and hopefully they learn

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Speaker 8: from that lesson and they will extend both Dax Hill and TJ.

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Speaker 7: Turnament.

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Speaker 8: So I guess my question is are they going to

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Speaker 8: try and do that this year?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I think you're on the right track there, Steven.

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Speaker 4: The idea of asking them, asking her about the various

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Speaker 4: positions in the past that they have failed to address

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Speaker 4: or let a player walk and have failed to fix

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Speaker 4: in the immediate aftermath. Has anything about that process changed?

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Speaker 4: How frequently do they look back on that? Do they

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Speaker 4: consider that like self scouting? Of Hey, this is something

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Speaker 4: we did wrong, here's how we can improve it. Like,

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Speaker 4: what is their philosophy? Like the Bengals have made it

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Speaker 4: very clear that they believe in their process. And so

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Speaker 4: if you believe in your process, and you're steadfast in

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Speaker 4: your process, and you have confidence in the people that

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Speaker 4: are supposed to be executing your process, why not then

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Speaker 4: talk about it.

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Speaker 9: Hey, Audi, it's Kris and Alexandria.

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Speaker 1: Chris.

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Speaker 9: I love the idea about asking Katie Blackburn a question.

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Speaker 9: One of the things I always question myself is are

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Speaker 9: the Bengals more interested in making money or winning championships?

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Speaker 9: So my question to Katie Blackburn would be, Katie, do

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Speaker 9: with the rest of the league to spend the full

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Speaker 9: amount allotted for the salary cap in order to win championships.

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Speaker 4: That's a good question, Chris, and I think that she

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Speaker 4: would say, look back on the way we've spent in

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Speaker 4: a lot of our salary cap, and she would be correct.

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Speaker 4: The issue with that, though, is it's a bit of

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Speaker 4: a trap. Answer is that because they have heavy first

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Speaker 4: optical illusion that suggests they spending up to the salary cap,

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Speaker 4: but not necessarily spending as much cash as the other

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Speaker 4: teams who are competing do so. Like they play within

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Speaker 4: the rules of the salary cap, but the cap isn't real,

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Speaker 4: is the best way to say it. Like, there are

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Speaker 4: ways to circumvent the salary cap through bonuses, through signing bonuses,

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Speaker 4: through all these different ways, a void years and restructures

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Speaker 4: and all this stuff that allow you to spend more

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Speaker 4: cash than cap, and that's how great teams stay competitive.

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Speaker 4: The Bengals philosophy is to do it within the cap,

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Speaker 4: and it causes them to miss out on free agents.

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Speaker 4: That would be one of the questions I would ask.

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Speaker 10: I'm really hoping that that we actually got vests. I

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Speaker 10: wish they were white with red penn stripes and then

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Speaker 10: just the normal city Connect logo instead of the one

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Speaker 10: that they have on it now with the white background.

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Speaker 1: But it'll be cool either way. I think that'd be neat.

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Speaker 10: But yeah, if they would have just done the white

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Speaker 10: with the red pinstripes, kind of like the old King

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Speaker 10: Griffy Jr.

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Speaker 1: Looking out in sick. Yeah. I agree.

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Speaker 4: I do think from the ones that I've seen so far,

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Speaker 4: Nike has kind of tamped it down a little bit

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Speaker 4: than the first run of City Connects. They've been a

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Speaker 4: little bit more chill, and I think that this potential

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Speaker 4: leak is what am I trying to say, signifying that

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Speaker 4: as well, where it's it's not a lot, it's not

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Speaker 1: I think it looks okay. I'll give you more on

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Speaker 1: that later.

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Speaker 11: Boston, Joe PESHI here, Joe, I represent certain people who

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Speaker 11: have a sports entertainment adjacent business understanding, if you get

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Speaker 11: what I mean. Anyways, my questions for Katie Blackburn is

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Speaker 11: Miss Blackburn, where the bleep do you get off telling

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Speaker 11: us about this bleep and track record of success that makes.

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Speaker 1: You think that you bleep and know what you're bleeping doing.

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Speaker 1: Get out of here. Okay.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that the bleeps are going to help

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Speaker 4: you get an answer, but okay.

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Speaker 12: My question for Katie is pretty simple. Is the goal

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Speaker 12: of the team net income or is it to win.

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Speaker 1: A Super Bowl? So that's two of those questions so

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Speaker 1: far that Katie would be asked.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Joe from Casey here, there is not something I

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Speaker 3: could care about less or have less interest in watching

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Speaker 3: than flag football. I mean, is there really a market

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Speaker 3: for it? I don't know who the Reds.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's a fair question. I do think

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Speaker 4: if there wasn't a market for it, you wouldn't see

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Speaker 4: so much of it happening now, you know, much like

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Speaker 4: AAU at the basketball level, flag football and seven on

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Speaker 4: seven specifically has become a big part of football at

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Speaker 4: the youth level, and there is interest, especially from young

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Speaker 4: women in playing that sport, and the NFL wants to

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Speaker 4: get as many women as involved as they can in

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Speaker 4: the sport. So I think that's a huge part of it.

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Speaker 4: I think it's it's continuing the reach to more and

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Speaker 4: But I will say this, I have watched. First of all,

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Speaker 4: I'm a sick person and I just think about football

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Speaker 4: all the time, and I have NFL Network on like

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Speaker 4: all the time, and I have watched these flag football

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Speaker 4: it's not just the typical football. It's very different than

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Speaker 4: obviously real football, and there are different rules and different

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Speaker 4: So is it for everybody? No, it's not. But I

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Speaker 4: do think if there is a way to advance the

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Speaker 4: to teach the game of football through it, I think

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Speaker 4: that can only be a net positive for the game.

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Speaker 13: The one question that I would ask Katie Blackburn or

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Speaker 13: the Brown family is say to them, what did Cincinnati

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Speaker 13: ever do to you to make them deserve what you

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Speaker 13: guys have done this organization right when they were on

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Speaker 13: the cusp of winning, and season after season you just

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Speaker 13: fail miserably. What did this city ever do to you

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Speaker 13: to deserve that one?

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Speaker 1: Hmm? I wonder what Kittie's response to that would be awesome.

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 7: Man?

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Speaker 14: It's ice comment talk doing a great job today on

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Speaker 14: your subject. If the Reds should lock up South Stewart.

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Speaker 14: They did try to lock up Ellie Dela Cruz and

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Speaker 14: Scott Bors said no. My only issue with this, I

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Speaker 14: think it's a great idea. But if the Reds do this,

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Speaker 14: will they spend money on other players or will it

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Speaker 14: be like when they locked up Joey Vado and did

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Speaker 14: nothing else.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good question. And there are some different

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Speaker 4: those conversations, and you know, Dick Williams isn't there anymore,

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Speaker 4: and Walt Jocketty's not there anymore, and maybe that would

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Speaker 4: bit different. I don't know if they would or wouldn't.

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Speaker 4: I would trend towards the belief that they wouldn't spend

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Speaker 4: an excuse because that's what I've known them to be

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Speaker 4: and known them to operate. I would hope that that's

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Speaker 4: not the case. But you know the fact of the

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Speaker 4: matter is, if Ellie is the player that we think

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Speaker 4: Ellie is, they're not going to be able to afford him.

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Speaker 1: They're not.

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Speaker 4: And so the issue then becomes what are you doing

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Speaker 4: right now so that four years from now you didn't

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Speaker 4: waste that dude and you can still be good without

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Speaker 4: Ellie de la Cruz, and you build that foundation now,

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Speaker 4: but also you got to be able to maximize the

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Speaker 4: opportunity you have with a star player. I mean, Pittsburgh

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Speaker 4: spent a lot of money this offseason, way more than

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Speaker 4: they normally do, because they know they have Paul Skiings

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Speaker 4: and it's not going to be guaranteed forever.

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Speaker 15: It's the Lord Happy Tuesday, talk bag Nation. Way to go,

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Speaker 15: Red Legs, way to get off to a fast start.

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Speaker 15: I gotta start bench cut. What team Cincinnati do you

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Speaker 15: think needs to get off to fast start the most?

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Speaker 15: The Bengals, the Reds, or Sincinnat Cincinnati Bearcats football slash basketball.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna always say the Bengals, but I do think

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Speaker 4: because of the early schedule for the Reds and how

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Speaker 4: difficult it gets later, they're going to need to build

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Speaker 4: a cushion because it's not going to be easy and

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Speaker 4: the Big one sixty two or the Big one fifty eight,

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Speaker 4: whatever is remaining.

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Speaker 1: Is it's just difficult to deal with.

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Speaker 4: So for that reason, I do think it's a toss up,

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Speaker 16: Austin gret So really really like Sunday's lineup, sure as

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Speaker 16: a third Marte in the nine hole and Key Brian

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Speaker 4: Austin, Greg, Thank you very much, and I agree with

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Speaker 4: best lineup that Tito had put out and obviously didn't

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Speaker 1: I think that should be the role for Key Brian Hayes.

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Speaker 12: Double dip for Katie? How did season ticket renewals come in?

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Speaker 12: The seat relocation email that came out yesterday showed a

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Speaker 12: lot of seats open for moving around. Curious how season

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and how does that affect your decision making when

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Speaker 1: I would love to follow up with that.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I'd like to ask Katie Blackburn, why in the

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Speaker 17: Two?

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Speaker 15: We ask her how much does Duke Tobin control the draft?

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Speaker 15: Is it one hundred percent, seventy five fifty percent?

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Speaker 6: Go South Stewart?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all good questions, Audi, Tony, Steve Pacific Northwest.

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Speaker 3: Want to Scot back with the travel trailer from the desert?

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Speaker 3: I always ended down there the last two weeks of

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Speaker 6: I tell you what, boys, this is the year.

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Speaker 1: I'm calling it first time.

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Speaker 3: Since So what about seventeenth or eighteen sixty? Yeah, we're

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Speaker 3: gonna win a playoff series. That's right, Go Reds baby excited, excited,

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Speaker 3: the machine is back.

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Speaker 11: Audio Climb deck Os.

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Speaker 4: Good to hear from you, Steve. It would be the

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Speaker 4: first time since October of nineteen ninety five.

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Speaker 18: Hey, Austin, with the draft coming up, here were the

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Speaker 18: chances the Bengals draft a player and not draft for me?

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Speaker 18: Do you think that's possible at the tenth and I

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Speaker 18: think we agree there's no way they're trading out of

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Speaker 18: I can recall, and I'm getting to be pretty old,

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Speaker 18: soll what you think player or need?

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Speaker 4: Well, if I'm not mistaken, they traded out of what

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Speaker 4: whatever draft that was. So I don't think it's it's

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Speaker 4: not think that it's likely. I just, based off of

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Speaker 4: were not short up now. The good news is basically

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Speaker 4: every position that they need, there's going to be a

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Speaker 4: good football player at number ten, whether that's an offensive lineman,

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Speaker 6: Noel V. Marte's inability to hit left handed pitching is huge.

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Speaker 6: Re Signs is waiting down a triple A. He's got

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Speaker 6: Marte and nouelve. Marte has options left. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 6: the string is very short.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good point, and good on you for

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Speaker 4: pointing that out because I failed to mention re Signs

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Speaker 4: earlier and you're exactly right. Had an awesome spring training

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Speaker 4: players in the organization. Absolutely, that is a great, great point, I.

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Speaker 2: Would say, Creamy pard.

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Speaker 12: Hey right.

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Speaker 1: Good to hear from you.

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Speaker 2: Yo, I thought Cats had nine lines.

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Speaker 18: I didn't know Tigers did too.

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Speaker 1: It's a good one. It's a good one. It's a

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Speaker 1: good joke.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Austin, Jeff and your Richmond a great show today.

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Speaker 2: You're doing awesome.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Hey. Answer your question about what I would ask Katie.

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Speaker 2: I would ask her if in a make or break year,

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Speaker 2: do you think Duke Tobin is doing the job? You know,

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Speaker 2: because his job is apparently on the line, So I'd

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Speaker 2: like to know if she thinks that he's doing a

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Speaker 2: good job.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would ask her, is Duke's job on the

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Speaker 4: line because there is a belief externally that he is

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Speaker 4: a part of the family and he basically can't get fired,

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Speaker 4: and is that true? That would be one of my

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Speaker 4: questions is is Duke Tobin competing building fighting for his

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Speaker 4: job this season?

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Speaker 1: And if not, why not?

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Speaker 5: My question for Katie would be, what makes you think

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Speaker 5: your way of doing business is always successful when the

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Speaker 5: last three seasons is evident that it does not.

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Speaker 4: It's a great question. Defend your strategy, defend your philosophy,

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Speaker 4: defend your way of doing business. You have not achieved

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Speaker 4: the desired results. Why should we believe that your way

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