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Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty. Thank you so much for listening.

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Speaker 1: You know where we are. It's it's Tuesday. We are

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Speaker 1: Today is when people say they want fall weather. I go,

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Speaker 1: for your Bengals watch parties, your college football watch parties.

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Speaker 1: thanks to Shareffacts credit Union. We have a lot to

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Speaker 1: get to today, some college football a little bit later on,

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Speaker 1: Bengals are getting set for Thursday night football. They're hosting

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Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers at the venue originally known as Paul

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Speaker 1: Brown Stadium. The game is gonna be on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 1: Here's a special treat Okay, Thursday, the pregame coverage will

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Speaker 1: begin at nine oh five. You will get a special simulcast.

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Speaker 1: Here's who You're gonna get a chance to listen to

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Speaker 1: me and Lance and Rocky together. I don't know when

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Speaker 1: the last time Lance and I, aside from we always

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Speaker 1: do the year end Show, the Year Interview, I don't

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Speaker 1: the same time. So Thursday, big big day at iHeartMedia

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Speaker 1: and then you add to it, Rocky boyman, It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be wow, unreal three o'clock on Thursday, and I legitimately

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Speaker 1: am excited for it because I never see Lance. Not

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Speaker 1: only do I never like get a chance to be

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Speaker 1: be fun, and that'll be Thursday at three o'clock. The

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Speaker 1: Today is going to be a pretty big day. Obviously

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Speaker 1: with the short week. We'll see if there's any movement

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Speaker 1: sense that they feel like Shamar Stewart is going to

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Speaker 1: be a full go. Also, the Bengals announced that Andrew

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Speaker 1: Whitworth is gonna be the ruler of the Jungle for

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Speaker 1: the game on Thursday night. That obviously makes a lot

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Speaker 1: of sense. Tonight in Milwaukee, it's a Game two of

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Speaker 1: the National League Championship Series. Blake Snell. Blake Snell pitched

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Speaker 1: Game one against the Reds and was terrific. He was

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Speaker 1: awesome last night. The TV announcers on TVs made the

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Speaker 1: comparison to Roy Halliday, the no hitter he threw against

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Speaker 1: the Reds in twenty ten. Blake Snell was that good

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Speaker 1: last night. Allowed one base runner and picked him off.

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Speaker 1: We also had the craziest double play I'd ever seen

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Speaker 1: in that game last night. The Dodgers win on game one.

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Speaker 1: Game two tonight in Milwaukee a little bit after eight o'clock.

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Speaker 1: It's a pause in the action, so to speak. And

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Speaker 1: the American League Championship Series between Seattle and Toronto, with

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Speaker 1: the Mariners holding a two nothing series lead, let me

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Speaker 1: just quickly ask this about the pos possibility of a

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Speaker 1: World Series between Seattle and Milwaukee. Now the Dodgers lead

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Speaker 1: the series, despite the fact that the Brewers had the

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Speaker 1: best record in baseball. I think most I think most

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Speaker 1: fans view LA as the favorite defending World Series champions

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Speaker 1: killers starting lineup. Although the Brewers beat them six times

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Speaker 1: all six games they played head to head. Milwaukee does

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Speaker 1: have home field advantage. I made a wager on Seattle

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Speaker 1: versus Milwaukee being the World Series matchup. It's obviously still alive.

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Speaker 1: Last year we had the Dodgers and Yankees, and the

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Speaker 1: big debate was is this good for baseball? This is

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Speaker 1: good for baseball?

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Speaker 11: Right?

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Speaker 1: My take was, like, dude, it's a World Series I

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Speaker 1: want to watch no matter what. When it was Arizona

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Speaker 1: versus Texas, I watched if it was Yankees Dodgers. I

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Speaker 1: watched Game one was memorable. Game four was memorable because

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Speaker 1: some dope down the right field line try to interfere

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Speaker 1: with a Mookie Bets ball. But the series itself wasn't awesome.

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Speaker 1: The games beyond Game one not really memorable for one series.

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Speaker 1: But you had a lot of folks who were like, no,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to see these big market behemos. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to see New York versus LA. Okay, will

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Speaker 1: you tune into Seattle versus Milwaukee? I will. Number One,

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Speaker 1: Brewers have never won a World Series, Mariners have never

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Speaker 1: won a World Series. Seattle's never been in a World Series.

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Speaker 1: Milwaukee hasn't been in one in forty three years. Like,

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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot interesting to that. I think

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Speaker 1: those are both two cool looking ballparks on TV. For

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Speaker 1: what it's worth, I they had two fun teams. Dan Wilson,

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Speaker 1: the Mariners manager, is a former Red Like, I think

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Speaker 1: there's there's a lot to that. I am looking forward

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Speaker 1: to the same people, however, who last year told us

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Speaker 1: they're turned off by big market New York versus LA

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Speaker 1: telling us that they're also turned off by small market

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Speaker 1: and reasonably anonymous Seattle versus Milwaukee. Now this can be

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Speaker 1: made a moot point if the Dodgers win the NLCS

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Speaker 1: and obviously got off to a good start last night.

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Speaker 1: But I said that a year ago, like, all right, fine,

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Speaker 1: you don't love big market New York versus LA. Did

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Speaker 1: diehards for whom the answer is yes. But I'm I

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Speaker 1: feel like it's like a cottage industry among a lot

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Speaker 1: of sports fans to come up with an excuse to

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Speaker 1: not watch baseball instead of just saying, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I don't watch a lot of baseball instead not watching

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Speaker 1: because the big market, or then this year, if it's

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Speaker 1: that's incredible analysis by me. We'll spend a little bit

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Speaker 1: more time on this later on. You see is getting

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Speaker 1: on Saturday. The Bearcats have a chance to achieve Bowl eligibility,

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Speaker 1: and I would be willing to bet that pretty much

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Speaker 1: nobody had them being in position to do that either

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Speaker 1: before they lost in Nebraska or after they lost in Nebraska.

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Speaker 1: Let's not kid ourselves. They're a fourth downstop against Kansas

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Speaker 1: away from losing that game. The performance against the UCF

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Speaker 1: if you know, somebody said to me yesterday, I'm getting

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one vibes, and it's like, eh, I'd tap

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Speaker 1: like there are folks and understandably so who go. You

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Speaker 1: know what? Last year they were five and two and

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Speaker 1: we were starting to talk about, you know, Bowl eligibility

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Speaker 1: and then can they be a factor in the Big

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Speaker 1: twelve race? And the conference itself wasn't all that good,

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Speaker 1: and they went from five to two to five and seven,

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Speaker 1: finished outside looking at a ball picture and only amplified

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Speaker 1: the questions as to whether or not Scott Saderfield as

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Speaker 1: the guy. I don't think such a meltdowns in the

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Speaker 1: offing for one simple reason. I think the Bearcats have

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Speaker 1: more Big twelve players on their team. And like that

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Speaker 1: sounds obvious, they're a Big twelve school, but like nobody

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Speaker 1: wanted to acknowledge this year one and it's why I

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Speaker 1: While you could say, well, you know, you can go

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Speaker 1: buy players now, the leap that they were making from

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Speaker 1: bigger than a lot of people were willing to admit.

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Speaker 1: And if you watch some of the games they played

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Speaker 1: down the stretch that first season, physically they were manhandled.

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Speaker 1: And the first time that I thought they were physically

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Speaker 1: manhandled was against Oklahoma State middle of that season on

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Speaker 1: a Saturday night crappy whether Oli Gordon was their lead

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Speaker 1: running back, terrific player. Oklahoma State on both lines just

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Speaker 1: pushed them around. West Virginia did later that season. Last year,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't as bad, but I didn't think they had

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Speaker 1: enough Big twelve athletes on the outside, which is to

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Speaker 1: those final five games this year. I think I was

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Speaker 1: talking about this with Tyson Vite, the defensive coordinator, today,

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Speaker 1: and we're going to air that interview in the pregame

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Speaker 1: show on Saturday. I feel like this is the season

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Speaker 1: where they have entered Big twelve play with big twelve

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Speaker 1: athletes everywhere. Now they're thin at corner and you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe they don't have a lot of NFL dudes, And

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Speaker 1: you know, I am. I read Heather Dnich's Bubble Watch

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Speaker 1: today on ESPN dot com, which has the Bearcats in it.

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Speaker 1: I do not want to get to ahead of myself

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Speaker 1: when it comes to this team and what they may

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Speaker 1: accomplish this year. But I think if you're going, you

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Speaker 1: know what, I'm a little bit wary because of what

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Speaker 1: happened last season. They were five and two and they

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Speaker 1: that the lack of just big twelve athleticism and big

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Speaker 1: twelve size and physicality was going to catch up to them,

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Speaker 1: and it did. It certainly did offensively on the outside,

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Speaker 1: where I just think they're better. I think Caleb Goodie,

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Speaker 1: Cyrus Allen, I think those guys are better than Xavier

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Speaker 1: Henderson and the other wideouts they had last year. So

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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily believe the offense is going to regress

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Speaker 1: I feel like this season, especially on defense, especially in

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Speaker 1: the front six, that three, three, five, there's just more physicality,

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Speaker 1: more speed, more Big twelve dudes, and so I think

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Speaker 1: they're better equipped to contend. And now again, man, I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna tell you that they're going to run the table.

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Speaker 1: I'm not yet prepared to talk about them playing in

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Speaker 1: the Big twelve Championship game. But I do think this

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Speaker 1: team is better equipped for sustainability this year for that

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Speaker 1: main reason. And I think as obvious as that sounds,

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Speaker 1: might take a while for UC to have the level

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Speaker 1: of athlete that they need in this league. This year,

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Speaker 1: they still might not have as many as Texas Tech does,

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Speaker 1: maybe they don't have as many as BYU does, and

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Speaker 1: maybe it's going to be a rude awakening when they

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Speaker 1: personnel perspective, I think they can better match up with

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Speaker 1: pretty much everybody remaining on their schedule, including Oklahoma State,

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Speaker 1: from four o'clock. Paul Danner Junior is gonna join us

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Speaker 1: at the top of the hour. Where at Oakley Greens

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Speaker 1: Nine minutes away from five o'clock. This is ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 1: We are broadcasting from Oakley Greens, which you know, if

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Speaker 1: you if you have tickets to the Bennell Steelers game

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Speaker 12: Thank you, Ma. I hope you had a good weekend.

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Speaker 13: Although it's soon I lose track. Today I got the

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Speaker 13: Bengals with five wins, and I'll just leave.

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Speaker 12: It at that.

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Speaker 13: Still got the same old line, Still got the same

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Speaker 13: how that helps you that much.

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Speaker 1: But the story is, don't I don't disagree with I

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Speaker 1: don't disagree with anything you said, but I will I

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Speaker 1: will say this. I thought in the second half of

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Speaker 1: the game, the offensive line played pretty well. Is that

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Speaker 1: sustainable with this unit? You would go, you would be

643
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: silly to bet on that happening. But I do think

644
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Speaker 1: the offense. If if Joe Laco can play behind the

645
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: same sort of past protection we saw as the game

646
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Speaker 1: went on, I think they'll be okay. But the overall

647
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Speaker 1: lack of faith in this team, Mike I cannot argue with.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean his realities reality, folks. And you need

649
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 13: to draft better too. You gotta get way more depth,

650
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 13: to draft way more without Ques lost since I can remember.

651
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Speaker 13: But the real story was mister Blake snow last night

652
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Speaker 13: with one of the greatest Championship Series performances by a

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Speaker 13: pitcher in NL history. He was the crap.

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Speaker 1: He was awesome. As good as he was in his

655
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Speaker 1: first two postseason starts, including Game one against the Reds,

656
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Speaker 1: he was even better last night. What did you think

657
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Speaker 1: about them not bringing him out for the ninth inning?

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Speaker 13: Well, I wanted him to in my heart, but he was.

659
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Speaker 13: He was over one hundreds then and I can't I

660
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Speaker 13: just can't question Dave robertson trying to makes me nervous

661
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Speaker 13: at all, you know who. And Sosaki had a little

662
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Speaker 13: bit of an off night because he's been lights out

663
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Speaker 13: coming out of that tent, But that might be gave

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Speaker 13: him trying in a little bit of a little bit

665
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Speaker 13: more confidence going into the next game. But but boy,

666
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Speaker 13: if Yama Moto's going tonight another two point four nine era,

667
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 13: So Milwaukee, you better start hoping on your average Joe

668
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Speaker 13: luck because that's the only way you're going to beat

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Speaker 13: this team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I thought the game last night. So

671
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Speaker 1: there was the crazy play where south Freelick goes back

672
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Speaker 1: to catch the ball, it hits the wall and it

673
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Speaker 1: goes into his glove and they end up turning it.

674
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Speaker 1: It was one of the craziest plays I've ever seen,

675
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Speaker 1: and so crowd's going nuts. Dave Roberts has questions by

676
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Speaker 1: the way they ruled it correctly, because the leftfield umpire,

677
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Speaker 1: you know, made the signal that the ball was not

678
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Speaker 1: caught on the fly. I thought the way Snell came

679
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Speaker 1: out the next inning and just sort of shut him

680
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Speaker 1: down and quieted the crowd, Like at that point, I

681
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: thought that might have been Milwaukee's chance, right where it

682
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: felt like, Okay, the Dodgers have blown this bases loaded opportunity.

683
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Speaker 1: The crowd's going insane, and you know, maybe those things

684
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: matter less in baseball than in other sports. But he

685
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Speaker 1: quickly shut him down. One two, three in the bottom

686
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Speaker 1: half of the fourth, and I just I felt at

687
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Speaker 1: that point. I certainly felt afterwards. I thought that was

688
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Speaker 1: like the biggest sequence of the game, right there, beyond

689
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Speaker 1: the bottom of the ninth tending when when Trying got

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Speaker 1: the last out with the bases loaded.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, the thing about Blake is he looks so calm

692
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 13: and cool and collected. I don't think he broke a sweat.

693
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Speaker 13: That's the way it looked.

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Speaker 1: Well, he walked to guy to load the bases, killing them.

695
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: He walked to guy to load the bases, and he

696
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Speaker 1: just sort of not adored his catcher to go, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm good, We're fine, and uh, yeah, it was a

698
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: fun game last night. It's a fun game last night.

699
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Speaker 1: I still think it's gonna be a really interesting series.

700
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Speaker 1: But obviously Paralta has to come up big for the

701
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Speaker 1: Brewers tonight.

702
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Speaker 13: And he's been good at home, but he hadn't just

703
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 13: hadn't pitched that much. Yeah, but it was interesting that

704
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Speaker 13: and they made several comments about it with Snow kept

705
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Speaker 13: going to his note card like a quarterback does on

706
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Speaker 13: his wrist, and I've never I've never seen that with

707
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Speaker 13: a picture of.

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Speaker 1: You, never before, Like every hitter hold his right card out.

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Speaker 13: He kept checking. Yeah, yeah, the next battery. I never

710
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Speaker 13: saw that before.

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Speaker 1: I've I've never seen a picture go to that card

712
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Speaker 1: before every hitter. And he was at first he was

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Speaker 1: doing it, and he looked like he thought he was

714
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Speaker 1: doing something illegal, right, Like he was looking at it

715
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Speaker 1: in this like you'll see sometimes you'll the camera will

716
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Speaker 1: show like an outfielder and he'll look at it just

717
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Speaker 1: to see, Okay, where should I be positioned. I've never

718
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Speaker 1: seen a picture I've seen a picture reference the card before.

719
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Speaker 1: I've never seen a picture reference the card before every hitter,

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Speaker 1: including you know, the second and third time through the

721
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Speaker 1: batting order.

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Speaker 13: It was something else. I was hoping that you had

723
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Speaker 13: gotten to see that part just because you like unusual

724
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Speaker 13: and that was unusual.

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Speaker 1: It was unusual, and I would imagine that since that

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Speaker 1: is legal, I would imagine why would why would other

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Speaker 1: pictures not do that? Right? Like? Why why why would

728
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Speaker 1: other pictures not take it? If you could take a

729
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Speaker 1: cheat sheet with you when you go take the test,

730
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Speaker 1: why wouldn't you bring the cheat sheet with you all

731
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Speaker 1: the time.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, Well, eventually they'll play outlaw, you know, but I'll

733
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Speaker 13: but they can't right now. But I'll tell you, these

734
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Speaker 13: Mariners are fun, aren't they. Those Mariners are fun.

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Speaker 1: Are fun, man. You know. I like Cal Raleigh, I

736
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Speaker 1: like Julio Rodriguez, I like Dan Wilson, I like Logan

737
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Speaker 1: Gilbert a lot Louis Castillo. Obviously, for them to do

738
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Speaker 1: what they did, play that fifteen inning game on Friday,

739
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Speaker 1: fly to Canada, fly to Eastern Canada, have playing problems

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Speaker 1: and come back less than forty eight hours later when

741
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Speaker 1: Game one and then take Game two the way they

742
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Speaker 1: did is is pretty cool. I am I am rooting

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Speaker 1: for Seattle. I will admit to you, Mike that I

744
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: am rooting for the Brewers just because it thind be

745
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Speaker 1: cool to see a team that's never won it before.

746
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Speaker 1: But you're right, man, the Mariners are awesome. And I

747
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 1: still think the NLCS is gonna be a great series.

748
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Speaker 1: We'll see I get a run, man. Okay, thanks Moll,

749
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Speaker 1: take care, you got it coming up on four o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Our friend Paul Dayner Junior from the venue originally known

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Speaker 1: as Paul Brown Stadium is next word Oakley Greens Here

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Speaker 1: in Oakley on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station at

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Speaker 1: All right, here we go. What's up, Good afternoon, I'm

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Speaker 1: going this is ESPN fifteen thirty. Thank you for listening.

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Speaker 1: We're broadcasting from Oakley Greens, which we have. One of

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Speaker 1: the things we love about broadcast and from Oakley Greens

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Speaker 1: is we get a chance to know the staff, we

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Speaker 1: get a chance to know the people here, we get

764
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: a chance to learn about them. And boy, that just

765
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Speaker 1: happened during the break. I'm not sure how much any

766
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Speaker 1: of that is for air, but you know you could

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Speaker 1: take part in that if you come on out to

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Speaker 1: Oakley Greens. Typically on Tuesday, our friend Paul Danner Junior

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Speaker 1: from the Athletic and the Growlar podcast is here with

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Speaker 1: us at Oakley Greens. But the Bengals play on Thursday,

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Speaker 1: and so today is like the big heavy workday. The

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Speaker 1: players are available, the locker room is open. Paul's got

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Speaker 1: a right, he's got a podcast, and so he doesn't

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Speaker 1: have time to get here and hang out with me.

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Speaker 1: But because he's the best, still kind enough to give

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Speaker 1: us a few minutes on the phone. Hi Paul, Hello, Mo,

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Speaker 1: how are you? I?

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Speaker 2: I gotta say that was very intriguing. I really wish

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Speaker 2: I was there to know what you are referencing. You

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Speaker 2: just learned about the find people at Oakley Greens before

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Speaker 2: I came on.

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Speaker 1: When you're here next week, I'll give you a synopsis.

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Speaker 8: Okay, good, good. I just I'm very intrigued.

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Speaker 1: So is anything anything bigger, newsworthy happening down there we

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Speaker 1: need to know about?

786
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Speaker 2: Well, maybe the absolute crossroads of the season is happening

787
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Speaker 2: in two days. If you're interested in that, that's a

788
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Speaker 2: fairly important, fairly important game here. You don't really expect

789
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 2: to be saying those types of things this early, but

790
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Speaker 2: we're kind of accustomed to that around here lately, aren't

791
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Speaker 2: we are? We are late early around here pretty consistently now,

792
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: third year in a row, we're dealing with this. But

793
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Speaker 2: it does feel like you either show you've got some

794
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Speaker 2: fight and you can find some semblance of offense and

795
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 2: defense and can deliver a blow to.

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Speaker 8: The Pittsburgh Steelers, or the Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: Steelers are about to run away and hide to the

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Speaker 2: AFC North and you're not going to have any stay

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Speaker 2: in it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this feels like game on versus Game over. Three

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00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,959
Speaker 1: and four. It's game on and you get the mini

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00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: buy chance to breathe. The Jets are coming here, obviously

803
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: a winnable game, and we start to talk about the AFC,

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00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: maybe the AFC North. Pittsburgh doesn't run away at hide

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00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: two and five, and it's who are they trading and

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Speaker 1: what can they get for Trey Hendrickson and how bad

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Speaker 1: might this get? Like three and four versus two and five,

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Speaker 1: The difference is more than one.

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Speaker 2: Game it, I mean, it's already on the verge of

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Speaker 2: maybe being too much when you just consider the uphill

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Speaker 2: path that this team has right now. I mean, you

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Speaker 2: just they're they're not very good defensively. Their offense is

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Speaker 2: this like construction project around Joe Flacco getting up to

814
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Speaker 2: speed here and you see some signs of life in it,

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Speaker 2: but this is you know, Joe Burrow is not work

816
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Speaker 2: walking through that door anytime soon. And so the idea

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Speaker 2: that they're just going to start ripping off a long

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Speaker 2: streak of wins and blow past the Pittsburgh Steelers is

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Speaker 2: just not reality. They're gonna have to beat the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna have to hang around and hope that that

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Speaker 2: team starts to struggle a bit and gain some momentum

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Speaker 2: with Laco at quarterback. And I just it felt like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you felt about it, moh, but

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Speaker 2: to me, everything about Sunday felt like half real game,

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Speaker 2: half preseason game.

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Speaker 15: Yes it was.

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Speaker 8: It felt like it was a bridge to this Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Like they needed Joe Flacco in there and playing that

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Speaker 2: game so that he could go beat Pittsburgh on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: And that was you know, and even you can talk

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Speaker 2: and we'll talk plenty about the Barrett Carter decision, it's

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Speaker 2: go go get him in there and see what he's

833
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Speaker 2: got and maybe he can help you a part of

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Speaker 2: the answer and he could have a game under his

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Speaker 2: belt when.

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Speaker 8: He goes to play Pittsburgh at home on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: It's this recognition that this is where the path had

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Speaker 2: to be. It has to be through winning this game.

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Speaker 2: And it felt like everything about that was building towards

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Speaker 2: Thursday night in a game that they just frankly have

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Speaker 2: to have.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the only the only way I'll part with what

843
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Speaker 1: you just said is I don't think it was a

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Speaker 1: half preseason game that was a full preseason game. I

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Speaker 1: was I'm not gonna say, uninterested in the result. I

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00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: thought they had no chance of winning. To me, it

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Speaker 1: was can they do something offensively? As that game begins

848
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: to evolve that makes me feel like, Okay, some seeds

849
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: have been planted for them to have future success. That

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Speaker 1: maybe ignores the fact that defensively they have all sorts

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Speaker 1: of issues. It may be ignores some of the changes

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Speaker 1: they're making on the fly in regards to who plays.

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Speaker 1: But I saw what I wanted to see. I expected

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Speaker 1: it to be not great in the first half. I

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Speaker 1: wanted it to be better in the second half. And

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Speaker 1: you pointed out like as the second half went on,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking about the play clock. I wasn't thinking

858
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: about unnecessarily burning timeouts, delay of game penalties. I saw

859
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: competent offensive line play. I don't know how much of

860
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: that is sustainable, but I saw an offense that worked

861
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: and work again. This is not where we should be starting,

862
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,720
Speaker 1: but this is this is where we are. It's week six, Okay,

863
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: it's the Browning thing didn't work. We're trying Flacco show

864
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: me something that makes me feel like this can work,

865
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 1: and over those final thirty minutes. I got what I

866
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: wanted to see at that point, didn't care about the result.

867
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: I will on Thursday.

868
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 8: Absolutely.

869
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 2: I think it looked functional. It looked like one that

870
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 2: could operate on time and under control, and looked like

871
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 2: it had a plan. And you know, like I just

872
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 2: went something as simple in the story I have up

873
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 2: today of just let's just look at how this team

874
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 2: operated from a you know, successful play standpoint on throws

875
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 2: that come out in two point five seconds or less,

876
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: and it's unbelievable. You know, Joe Flaco comes in and

877
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 2: it's up around sixty percent. Weeks one and two, it

878
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 2: was up around sixty percent. The three middle games with

879
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 2: Jake Browning was all the way down in the thirties

880
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 2: and forties was bad plays. It's not seeing things fastening up.

881
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: It's not finding those easy, successful, efficient plays that kept

882
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,919
Speaker 2: them ahead of the six more often. And if there's

883
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: one thing that Joe did, he just came in and

884
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 2: when he knew what he was seeing and quickly got

885
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 2: the ball to somebody that could help him make a profit.

886
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 2: And it helped the whole offense work better. And it

887
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 2: just it made it apparent that so much of what

888
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 2: was going wrong was a matter of just a quarterback

889
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 2: that didn't know what.

890
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 8: He was seeing and wasn't finding the easy.

891
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 2: Yards the layups that we've spent the last couple of

892
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 2: weeks talk about that they're missing, and I think when

893
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 2: you can do that as they did, as Joe figured

894
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 2: out what he was seeing, and I know Pitcher with

895
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 2: us this week and Zach Taylor talked about it as well.

896
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 2: Even Flaco that a couple of those in the first half.

897
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 2: He wasn't seeing it as quick first game with these

898
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 2: guys and recognizes that the checkdowns that he was hitting later,

899
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 2: if he just would have hit those those first couple

900
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 2: of drives, those drives could have looked more like the

901
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 2: last ones. And I don't think it's going to be

902
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 2: that simple throughout the course of the season.

903
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,240
Speaker 8: Like teams are going to see.

904
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 2: That and he is who he is, but like that

905
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 2: level of functionality with these level of around him can

906
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 2: beating off to score a decent amount of points and

907
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 2: keep you competitive.

908
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 8: The problem is they've.

909
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 2: Now lost four in a row and they've got to

910
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 2: do that on a fly and get out there and

911
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 2: beat Pittsburgh because they put their backs against the wall

912
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 2: a little bit trying to find that.

913
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: I read what you wrote after Friday about how this

914
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: came together, the decision to bring in Joe Flacco, the

915
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: process of getting him up to speed with the offense,

916
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: him joining the team, learning who his teammates are, and

917
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: I coupled that with listening to him on Friday. Joe Flacco,

918
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: I've never had strong feelings about the guy. You know,

919
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: good career, long career, seems like an okay guy, spent

920
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 1: much of his career playing for a team I root against.

921
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: Never felt like he was one of the absolute best,

922
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: certainly respect what the dude has accomplished. I've gone from

923
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: feeling that way. And this has little to do with

924
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: how he played on Sunday, listening to him and reading

925
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: what you wrote about getting him up to speed. I'm

926
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: a Joe Flacco fan.

927
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he has this level of humility and

928
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 2: professionalism that mixes well together. You know, it just feels

929
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 2: like he understands who he is, where he's at in

930
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 2: his career. He's very honest with himself. I mean, he's

931
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 2: just a grown adult, you know what I mean. Like,

932
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 2: man has five kids, mo like it changes you, and

933
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 2: but he just he has a really, very real sense

934
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 2: of appreciating the moments that he's in is what strikes me.

935
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 2: Appreciating the fact that, yeah, I mean, I am I'm

936
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 2: driving down in the middle of the night, and I

937
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 2: would have driven myself. You didn't have to send me

938
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 2: these cars like I'm driving down because I appreciate the

939
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 2: fact that I'm about to have another chance, and I

940
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 2: appreciate the adversity that I went through, uh in Cleveland,

941
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 2: and just and there's an understanding of what the NFL

942
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 2: is with him. I just think that you don't get

943
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 2: often and that's fine. You just don't out of a

944
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 2: lot of younger players when they're out here and they

945
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 2: view everything differently.

946
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 8: But you can just say, and I mean that that wisdom.

947
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 2: That he has about appreciating these moments, gratitude for the game,

948
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 2: and an understanding of how it all works. I just

949
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 2: think he certainly comes across as the true true professional.

950
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 1: I just I watched that whole thing on Friday, and

951
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 1: I thought, this guy understands how absurd this is and

952
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 1: handled it with humor, handled it with professionalism like that,

953
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: and just it helped with how he played in the

954
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: second half on Sunday. I just thought, like, that's a

955
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: dude worth rooting for, and like, now I want this

956
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: to work. I want this to work because I'm a

957
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: Bengals fan. I want this to work because think it'd

958
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: be a cool story, and I think Joe Flacco being

959
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: at the center that would be neat. I was impressed

960
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: by how he handled that. It felt to me like

961
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: he he put himself in the position where he was

962
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: going to be very prepared, and his experience certainly allowed

963
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: him to do that. But I just I don't know, man,

964
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: I've walked away from the the early the early early,

965
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: retire the Joe Flacco experience, appreciating him more than I

966
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 1: ever did. Because but before this week, I didn't care.

967
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I had Zach Jackson, who has covered

968
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 2: the Browns forever and he's notably sarcastic and critical of

969
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 2: the Browns at pretty much every turn whenever I talked

970
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 2: to him, So I.

971
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 8: Always, really, I always really enjoy having.

972
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 2: Catching up with Zach whenever it's it's whether it's on

973
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 2: my podcast or whatever. But like I had him on

974
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 2: last week, We did one after the trade, and I

975
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 2: like softballed one up for him to be like, oh,

976
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 2: it's take a shot at the Browns and Flacco and whatever.

977
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 2: And it was the exact opposite. He was like, you know,

978
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 2: I'm the most cynical human on earth, and I feel

979
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 2: like I look at the Bengals and Joe Flacco and

980
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 2: think that it can work. And I think there was

981
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 2: an appreciation for everything that you just verbalized there, Moe,

982
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 2: and it's that.

983
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,280
Speaker 8: He's a he's a true professional.

984
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 2: He is a real understanding of how the league works,

985
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 2: and this gratitude that he has plays well in certain places,

986
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 2: and it played well in Cleveland despite the fact that

987
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 2: Cleveland is the biggest pony show of what is going

988
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,959
Speaker 2: on here in the whole league for periods of time.

989
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 2: But I think there's an understanding of how to handle

990
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 2: that stuff and deal with it. And you know, I

991
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 2: was really surprised. And that's somebody who has dealt with

992
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco now in different parts for a couple of years.

993
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,720
Speaker 2: And so that was when my antenna was first raised

994
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 2: to it. And I think you've seen that at pretty

995
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 2: much every turn thus far since Joe has gotten here.

996
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: All right, a couple more because I know you have

997
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 1: stuff to do. I've beaten up this roster and it's defense.

998
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 1: And I've wandered out loud. Are there are five players

999
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: I want to be on the team next year. I

1000
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 1: might not be completely there yet, but DJ Turner is

1001
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 1: winning me over.

1002
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 8: Yeah. I don't know how you're not.

1003
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 2: I mean, the way that he is playing now is

1004
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 2: cornerback one stuff that the Bengals have been begging to find,

1005
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 2: begging to draft, begging to develop for I don't know

1006
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 2: as long as we can remember in recent memory, since Chiabayowuuzi,

1007
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 2: you know, towards Aco that one year. I mean that

1008
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 2: is it feels like they needed that to have a

1009
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 2: guy that that they can rely on to make a play,

1010
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 2: that they can rely on to shut down the other

1011
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 2: team's best receiver, that can you know, we'll be sticky

1012
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 2: in because just anything that you can count on in

1013
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,240
Speaker 2: this secondary that isn't some kind of a roller coaster

1014
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 2: week to week. This is the evolution they've been begging

1015
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 2: for from Dax Hill, from Cam Taylor Britt and now

1016
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 2: from Turner. Any just asking for any of them to

1017
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 2: turn into somebody like what he has played like over

1018
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 2: the last month. And it's it's great to see. It's

1019
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 2: hard not to believe in him right now in a

1020
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 2: way that he's playing.

1021
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: Why is the Logan Wilson thing gone sound so quickly?

1022
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 2: It's a great question, and you know, Logan's obviously not

1023
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 2: thrilled with it.

1024
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,399
Speaker 8: And I think that.

1025
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 2: There is a general direction that the team wants to

1026
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 2: go in.

1027
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 8: Terms of being young.

1028
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 2: And they feel like if they're gonna be good at

1029
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 2: some point this year, Barrett Carter is probably gonna have

1030
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 2: to be a part of that answer.

1031
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:15,760
Speaker 8: And the only way that he's.

1032
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 2: Gonna start to be a part of that answer is

1033
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 2: if he gets reps, and he's not gonna get them

1034
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 2: right now. It is a It's one of the more

1035
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,439
Speaker 2: stunning moves in recent years, just because I don't think

1036
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 2: Logan Wilson was playing that bad. Okay, I don't think

1037
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 2: that of all the of all the things happening out there. Defensively,

1038
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 2: he wasn't in the top of my list of things

1039
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 2: to worry about.

1040
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 8: And the one thing he.

1041
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 2: Was was the one veteran out there amongst all of

1042
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 2: these kids who have had roller coaster careers, Like there's

1043
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 2: so many young players that are out there around them,

1044
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 2: and then and guys that don't know what they're doing

1045
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 2: totally and to take away the guy who has the

1046
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 2: seat on his chest and the green on his helmet

1047
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 2: that has been was just praised a week or two

1048
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 2: ago for getting everybody lined up correctly. And as far

1049
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,919
Speaker 2: as I can tell, he isn't one of your top

1050
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 2: three or four or five liabilities in terms of the

1051
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 2: way he's playing. Doesn't make a ton of sense to me,

1052
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 2: And it's just really surprising to see if it felt rash,

1053
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 2: but it feels like this is just the direction that

1054
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 2: they want to go, that they just feel like they

1055
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 2: wanted to see if Barrett Carter can bring them some

1056
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 2: kind of a jolt.

1057
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 8: But you know, we just talked to the Logan in

1058
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 8: the locker.

1059
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 2: Room and he didn't feel like he got much of

1060
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 2: an explanation for why the move happened. And he's doing

1061
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 2: everything he can to help Barrett and is going to

1062
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 2: be the good teammate.

1063
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 8: But I think there's a sense of him being as

1064
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 8: befuddled as some of the a lot of the other

1065
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 8: of us are.

1066
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: I don't get it, And number one, I don't know

1067
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: that Barrett Carter has played so well that he has

1068
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: distinguished himself that you go, you know what you got

1069
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 1: to get this guy in the field more and he's

1070
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: a rookie, so he's not supposed to. But I'm with you.

1071
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: I said to you after the first game that that

1072
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: was the first time in over a year that I

1073
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: had watched Logan Wilson play, where I said during the game, like, hey,

1074
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 1: there's Logan Wilson. He maybe hasn't been that good since.

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Speaker 1: I just I feel like I feel like the leash

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Speaker 1: for him has been shorter than a lot of other

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Speaker 1: guys they've had, and it's it's hard for me to

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Speaker 1: wrap my brain around why.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I agree with you, and I think that's.

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Speaker 2: To me, it just goes back to the fact that

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Speaker 2: they need somebody who knows what they're doing out there,

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Speaker 2: and that was apparent. You know, you look at the

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Speaker 2: second half of that game. I mean the touchdown against

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Speaker 2: Green Bay. You've got two rookie linebackers and nobody goes

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Speaker 2: to the A gap and Josh Jacobs runs right up

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Speaker 2: the middle for a touchdown. It's just, you know, that's

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Speaker 2: the type of stuff when you're really serious about trying

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Speaker 2: to win games right now, you know, those are those

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00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 2: are risks that you can't be that you're just not

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Speaker 2: taking in terms of having that level of inexperience with

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Speaker 2: two rookie linebackers out there together. And there's other there's

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Speaker 2: just other ways to work them in. You know, there

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00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 2: can there can be rotational stuff. You can have you know,

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00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 2: bigger sub package work or or alternate drives for a

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Speaker 2: little while and.

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Speaker 8: See how it's going and get repped in that way.

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Speaker 2: Or it's just for it to immediately be Barrett Carter

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Speaker 2: plays one hundred percent of the snaps in Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: It's just it was just a much riskier decision than

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Speaker 2: I feel like this point in the season warrants.

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Speaker 1: I have found that sometimes in life, this thing happens

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Speaker 1: where you're doing your job just fine, everybody seems to

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Speaker 1: like you, and then they just pull the plug for

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Speaker 1: no reason, and uh, I don't understand it and it

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Speaker 1: defies explanation sometimes. But you know, that's that's why I

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Speaker 1: search for answers eternally on the search for answers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the Bengals are eternally on the search

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Speaker 2: for answers right now too. It feels like that's a

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Speaker 2: big part of what's happening around here. And we'll see

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Speaker 2: how lost they are on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: I suppose we'll see Paul. I missed you here today,

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Speaker 1: but we'll see you next week.

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Speaker 16: Thank you.

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Speaker 8: As always, I look forward to talk to everybody.

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Speaker 1: Likewise, Paul Danner Junior catch the podcast the Growlar Podcast,

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00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: read him at the Athletic dot Com his piece and

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Speaker 1: he wrote it on I think he wrote it. Friday

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Speaker 1: wrote about just what they did to get Joe Flacco

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Speaker 1: up to speed. His is really good and again, man,

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Speaker 1: like they've lost four consecutive games. This season's is at

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Speaker 1: a tipping point. We're already breaking the glass and applying

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Speaker 1: the must win label to the game on Thursday, like

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Speaker 1: things are knocked wing great. The defense is not good.

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Speaker 1: They're on their third quarterback in seven games. Like this

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Speaker 1: isn't good. But Joe Flacco has never elicited strong feelings

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Speaker 1: and maybe that's his legacy, Like you know when when

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Speaker 1: we were doing this thirteen years ago after they won

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. The whole like is is Joe Flacco elite?

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Speaker 1: And like I'm gonna sit this one out because the

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Speaker 1: answer is no. But we'll argue over Joe Flacco if

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Speaker 1: you want. I've become a fan this week. I felt

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Speaker 1: like he's out there. Friday and handled the questions about

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Speaker 1: this just ridiculous situation with humor, and it felt like

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Speaker 1: he did everything he could to prepare himself ready to play,

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Speaker 1: to get ready to play on Sunday. It felt like

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Speaker 1: the team did respond to him on some level, certainly

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Speaker 1: in the second half. I don't have uber high hopes

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Speaker 1: that this is gonna be sustainable. He can't move The

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Speaker 1: offensive line, while it played decent in the second half,

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Speaker 1: is not great. They all have a great running game

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Speaker 1: even if they score points. The defense doesn't feel like

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00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 1: they can stop anybody right now. But you know, we

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00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: said it last week. It's at least interesting, and I

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Speaker 1: think Joe Flacco, the way he has handled this and

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00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 1: the way he played in the second half have made

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Speaker 1: it even more interesting. It is twenty three after four o'clock.

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Speaker 1: We're at Oakley Green's. We're gonna hear Joe Flaco and

1148
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Speaker 1: Jamar and he'd been waiting all day for this. You'll

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Speaker 1: hear from Joe and Jamar coming up in twelve minutes

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Speaker 1: on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 1: Hey, if you missed the show yesterday, The Football Show

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Speaker 1: with James Rapine, go find it right now. You don't

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Speaker 1: You could also get onto the podcast page of ESPN

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Speaker 1: fifteen thirty dot com. Obviously, we talked a ton about

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Speaker 1: the game on Sunday Bengals and Packers looked ahead to

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Speaker 1: the tilt on Thursday. This game on Thursday really is

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Speaker 1: if you're a Baltimore Ravens fan, or I guess if

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Speaker 1: you're a Cleveland Browns fan. Certainly if you're a Bengals fan,

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Speaker 1: I wrestle with how good the Pittsburgh Steelers are. I

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Speaker 1: wrestle with how good a lot of these teams in

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Speaker 1: the AFC are.

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 1: People are writing about how broken the Bills are after

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Speaker 1: watching last night. I'm not there yet. The Chiefs are

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Speaker 1: trending upward. I'm not sure they have fixed every offensive issue.

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Speaker 1: I still believe there is a world where the Baltimore

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Speaker 1: Ravens win this division because Lamar is gonna come back

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Speaker 1: after the buy. According to all the reports out there

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Speaker 1: in Baltimore, the schedule does ease up, they're getting a

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Speaker 1: little healthier on defense that that roster is still really

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Speaker 1: really good. But the AFC, I'm not sure how much

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Speaker 1: better the NFC is, quite frankly, but I it's more

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Speaker 1: difficult than a lot of folks would have guessed before

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Speaker 1: the season began to kind of wrap your head around

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Speaker 1: what the AFC as a conference is going to be.

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Speaker 1: And I think one of the difficult teams to really

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Speaker 1: wrap your head around is the Pittsburgh Steelers. I don't

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Speaker 1: know that I have changed my opinion on them from

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Speaker 1: what it was this offseason, which is week to week.

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01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 1: They're still really hard to play week to week. You

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01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: don't look forward to playing them. Big picture. I don't

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Speaker 1: know they're bona fide championship contenders, but they're in the

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Speaker 1: driver's seat in this division and they're going to be

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Speaker 1: firmly planted in the driver's seat if they win on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Send the Bengals to their fifth consecutive loss game a

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Speaker 1: half game on Baltimore. Who's off this week, like you know,

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Speaker 1: everybody in the division. And again we'll fold the Browns

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Speaker 1: into this as well. Have to be looking at this

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Speaker 1: game on Thursday as if we have any chance of

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Speaker 1: catching them, Bengals need to beat them. In Cincinnati on

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Speaker 1: Thursday night, we will see four thirty sports headlines and

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Speaker 1: Jamar and Joe coming up. Plus what to tell people

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Speaker 1: when they tell you the college football is broken. That

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Speaker 1: amazing sports talk radio topic is coming up. We're at

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Speaker 1: Oakley Greens in Oakley on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 1: Did that lady in that teren taren? What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: I know you have a lot going on back there.

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Speaker 1: The rule hasn't changed. Okay, well we've changes to the

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Speaker 1: radio station have happened. Well, we still have a very

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Speaker 1: very very hard and fast rule.

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Speaker 11: No.

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Speaker 1: Will Smith on this show, No post nineteen eighty eight,

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Speaker 16: I know there's been a lessons I did. I just

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Speaker 16: wanted to get you out up a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Oh you It worked. It definitely got me riled up.

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. Did that lady in that

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Speaker 1: A leave? Commercials say the holidays are here? Yes, it's

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Speaker 1: they're not. If you want to say the holidays are coming,

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Speaker 1: that's that's that's not going to be disputed. They are coming,

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Speaker 1: They're not here. It's October fourteenth. Halloween is still more

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Speaker 1: than two weeks away. Lady, sell your your whatever, your

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Speaker 1: a seed of minefit or whatever. A leave is? Hell,

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Speaker 1: I don't know are you allowed to take that if

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Speaker 1: you're pregnant, No idea. Sell you're a leave, don't tell

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Speaker 1: me the holidays are here? Agreement.

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Speaker 16: Remember there is that Sweetest Day this weekend.

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Speaker 1: We don't celebrate Sweetest Day at our house. My wife

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Speaker 1: and I, when we met thirteen years ago, we made

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Speaker 1: a pledge to each other. We met in October right

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Speaker 1: after Sweetest Day. Hey, look we'll do We'll do birthdays,

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Speaker 1: We'll do major holidays. We'll even do Valentine's Day. No

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Speaker 1: Sweetest Day. No adult does Sweetest Day. The Sweetest Day

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Speaker 1: is a holiday created by Hallmark Sweetest Day. Like you

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Speaker 1: buy like a girl you want to take to the

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Speaker 1: dance a card for Sweetest Day. No adult is doing

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Speaker 1: Sweetest Day. I'm sure Aran has big plans. What do

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Speaker 1: sports headline service to Kelsey chevrolegh home of lifetime powertrain protection. Literally,

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Speaker 1: do you know anybody over the age of the twenty four?

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Speaker 1: I ain't got something big happening on Sweetest Day.

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Speaker 11: No, it's an Instagram holiday.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Tarn. You know everybody's different. It might be

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Speaker 1: in it. You will not see an Instagram. My wife

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Speaker 1: hates that crap. My wife don't want. She doesn't want.

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Speaker 1: I saw a Mother's Day post about her a couple

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Speaker 1: of years ago, and I was like, why'd you do that?

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Speaker 1: I thought it'd be nice. Uh, huh, we don't do that.

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Speaker 1: Bengals and Steelers on Thursday. They practice tonight, So I

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Speaker 1: guess there's no injury report. But you're gonna hear Joe

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Speaker 1: Flacco and Jamar Chase in justin minute. There is a

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Speaker 1: Scott Saderfield radio show tonight hosted by me Dan Horde

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Speaker 1: on assignment. As we say, and so the coach and myself,

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Speaker 1: we'll give you an hour of stillating UC football conversation

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Speaker 1: beginning at eight o'clock tonight tonight. It's a game two

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Speaker 1: of the National League Championship Series between the Brewers and Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: I will make this a pole question if you celebrate

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Speaker 1: sweetest Day. If I think I've done this before, I

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Speaker 1: will make it a pole question here during the next break,

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Speaker 1: Yoshiamamoto and Freddie Peroltz on the hill. Eight oh eight,

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Speaker 1: first pitch from Milwaukee. We're not carrying those games for

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Speaker 1: reasons I don't understand. Dodgers have a one nothing series lead.

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Speaker 1: We have this audio for you. This is exciting. This

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Speaker 1: is Joe Flacco, this is the quarterback of the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: This is Super Bowl MVP. Joe Flacco. Did you get

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Speaker 1: that drink in your mouth? Trewe are you Okay? Here's

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Speaker 1: Joe Flacco, who was Joe Flacco who's played against Mike

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Speaker 1: Tomlin a lot. Here's Joe talking about what sticks out

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Speaker 1: about a Mike Tomlin team.

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Speaker 17: Listen, I mean, I think they've been Look how consistent

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Speaker 17: they've been over the last twenty years. I mean, how

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Speaker 17: long has he been there now, oh, twenty years or more? Uh,

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01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 17: they're always physical. I think they I think I think

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Speaker 17: they found out who they wanted to be as a

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Speaker 17: team early on, and they've continued to build their teams

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Speaker 17: based off of that and that's why they always have

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Speaker 17: a chance.

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Speaker 1: Well, pretty awesome stuff from Joe Flacco. They're definitely insightful,

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Speaker 1: teach a lot about the game. On Thursday, now, Jamar

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01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 1: Chase changed a play where he scored a touchdown against

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Speaker 1: Green Bay, and so here is a Joe talking about

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Speaker 1: what it's like when Jamar comes into the huddle and

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Speaker 1: says we should run something different.

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Speaker 17: Oh yeah, I know, you think it like I don't.

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Speaker 17: I don't think he's out there freestyle and at least

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Speaker 17: not with me right now, you know. And listen, I mean, ultimately,

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Speaker 17: if he came to me and said, hey, I know

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Speaker 17: that plays this, but I'm going to do this, I'd say.

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Speaker 17: I'd say, okay, I guess, yeah, that's what you're gonna do. Okay,

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Speaker 17: that sounds good to me. I would uh, I would

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Speaker 17: lean on him to feel it out.

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Speaker 1: I don't don't.

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Speaker 17: I don't necessarily see that happening, but I'm just hypothetically

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Speaker 17: if he was to come to me and do that,

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01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 17: I'd just say, yes, sir, that's that's what we'll do.

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Speaker 1: And and Chamar was asked about this, and here's what

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Speaker 1: Chamar had to say about this particular topic. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to play quarterback. Let me say that. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to play I don't want to play quarterback.

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Speaker 18: But I can tell like guys like you here, here, here,

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Speaker 18: and here, Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I can do that.

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Speaker 16: But I'm not want to play quarterback now.

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Speaker 3: I mean, how much of a weapon is that for

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01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 3: you to know it that well, to be able to

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Speaker 3: help your teammates.

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Speaker 11: I guess benefit.

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Speaker 18: Just in case, you know, Joe might call of playing

1317
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,600
Speaker 18: backwards are wrong, Maybe he might mess up. You know,

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Speaker 18: we we correct him in a huddle, and that helps

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Speaker 18: us know what we're doing and confidence within ourselves too.

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Speaker 1: You know, here you go there's a Jamar Chase and

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01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco. This some have used what happened in that

1322
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 1: game on Sunday is a reason to kind of fire

1323
01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 1: off at Zach Taylor and this is why he shouldn't

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01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:02,600
Speaker 1: be calling. I'm all on board with Zach Taylor not

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01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 1: calling plays. Over the course of an NFL season, do

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01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 1: you know how many times a wide receiver will tell

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01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:11,719
Speaker 1: the quarterback we're not running, that we're running. This probably

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Speaker 1: happens reasonably often. So there you go, right, boy, I

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Speaker 1: wish we had more of that audio we have Ken

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01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 1: in Lexington. Ken, feel free to rescue this segment. You're

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01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 1: on ESPN fifteen thirty high Ken.

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Speaker 19: Hey, hey, mo, I don't know what I can do

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01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 19: for the segment anyway. A fun fact, you're talking about

1334
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 19: the Brewers and the Mariners. A lot of people don't

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01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 19: realize this, and I do because I'm seventy four years

1336
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 19: old and I've been a baseball fan for a long time.

1337
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 19: But the Brewers started in Seattle and nineteen sixty nine

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01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:52,759
Speaker 19: as an expansion team. Yeah, this handle Pilots, that's right.

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Speaker 5: And.

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Speaker 1: The subject of the greatest sports the subject of the

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01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 1: greatest sports book ever written, Ball four by Jim Bell,

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01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 1: who was a member of that team.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, yes, right, he tried to make you come back

1344
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 19: and as hilarious book.

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01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 11: I read it.

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01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 19: And of course when the Brewers you know came, uh,

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01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 19: you know, when they became the Brewers, they were in

1348
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 19: the American League for years and uh and then until

1349
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 19: you know, they joined I finally joined the in L

1350
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 19: Central And when they were in the in L Central

1351
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 19: there were six teams and some of the other there

1352
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 19: were only five teams in all the other leagues except

1353
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 19: the AL West only had four teams. So they took

1354
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 19: the Astros and put them in the West. So just

1355
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 19: a little fun fact there. I did know people knew about.

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01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 19: I knew you would know because you're an expert at

1357
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 19: all this.

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Speaker 1: I am most definitely not an expert. And I think

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Speaker 1: today's broadcast has proven that you're exactly right. The Milwaukee

1360
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 1: Brewers have had a little bit of a nomadic history.

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01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,640
Speaker 1: Bud Sea League took the team from Seattle, bought it

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01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 1: was a car salesman, took it to Milwaukee and did

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Speaker 1: so like right before the season. I think they actually

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Speaker 1: moved operations during spring training, if I'm not mistaken. Before

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Speaker 1: the nineteen seventy season where they were in the American

1366
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 1: League East. They went to the World Series Game seven

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Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty two, and then and then we're moved

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Speaker 1: to the National League at the advent of interleague play

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Speaker 1: in the late nineteen nineties, nineteen ninety seven, I believe,

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Speaker 1: And so yeah, we had six teams in the National

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Speaker 1: League Central for a while, and we had four in

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Speaker 1: the American League West, and then they balanced things out

1373
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 1: and took the Astros out of the National League Central

1374
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 1: and moved moved them to the to the AL West.

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01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 1: You are You're right. There's a generation of fans who

1376
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 1: don't know what it's like to have the Brewers in

1377
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: the American League.

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Speaker 19: And you totally nailed it with all that explanation you

1379
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 19: just did, because I could not get that out clearly.

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01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 19: So that's why you're radio pro and I'm just a fan.

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Speaker 8: So anyway, that's all true.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Ken, that's very very kind of you, and

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01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 1: I thank you for listening. I am barely a radio pro,

1384
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 1: but I will tell you this, if you've not read

1385
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 1: the book Ball four by Jim Boughton, which came out

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Speaker 1: in the early nineteen seventies about the nineteen sixty nine

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Speaker 1: Seattle Pilots seem I think, why do I want to

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01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 1: read a book about a baseball team from nineteen sixty nine?

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Speaker 1: Because the book is hilarious and at that point, you know,

1390
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 1: most like first person. The autobiographies of athletes were like

1391
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 1: milk and cookie sort of stuff, Like you know, it

1392
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 1: was about how they they ate well and they took

1393
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:37,520
Speaker 1: their It was like Hulk Hogan writing a sports autobiography,

1394
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 1: right it's and Jim Boughton's like, actually we drink a

1395
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 1: lot and we have fun on the road, and there's

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01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 1: infidelity involved. And it was like a book that for

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01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 1: its time was an incredible, incredibly controversial. I read it

1398
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 1: like in high school because actually high school teacher suggest

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01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:58,719
Speaker 1: that I read it, knowing how much I loved baseball

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01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 1: and baseball books. And I've probably read that book. There

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01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 1: have been different editions of it. I've probably read that

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01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 1: book more than any other book, any other book, sports

1403
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 1: or non and so you should read it. And yes,

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01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 1: the Milwaukee Brewers started in Seattle. And if we get

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01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 1: a Mariners Brewers World Series, which again the Brewers have

1406
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 1: an uphill battle, then I'm sure somebody will do a

1407
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 1: story on the Seattle Pilots and how the Brewers went

1408
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:26,799
Speaker 1: from the Seattle Pirates, the Pirates Pilots to the Milwaukee Brewers.

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Speaker 1: There you go, fourteen away from five o'clock. I spent

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Speaker 1: a few minutes on college football on ESPN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 1: Score during the preseason. Paul questions on this show courtesy

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Speaker 1: Q four. Q four in the corporate world always a blast,

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Speaker 1: but it's really when you start thinking, like what am

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Speaker 1: I going to do for insurance in twenty twenty six?

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Speaker 1: Am I going to maintain status quo? Am I gonna

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Speaker 1: pay less? How can I pay less?

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Speaker 13: Well?

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Speaker 1: The answer to that question lies with the folks at

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Speaker 1: United Heartland Insurance. Three offices. They got one in Burlington

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Speaker 1: Route eighteen, where my mom used to live. They got

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Speaker 1: one in Cincinnati, they got one in Hamilton, and they

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Speaker 1: also have a website. Pretty cool with them. They have

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Speaker 1: a website uhi ns dot com. Find out what those

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01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 1: folks can do for you. Per request I have asked,

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01:14:56,479 --> 01:15:01,759
Speaker 1: do you celebrate Sweetest Day? Now? The voting is early? Okay,

1439
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 1: I just threw this out there. The voting is early.

1440
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 1: Literally it's been up for six minutes, so it will

1441
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 1: last for twenty four hours. So we'll see right now,

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01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 1: ninety eight point one percent of you say no, So tarn,

1443
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, and again to each their own. If you

1444
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 1: celebrate Sweetest Day, that's that dude. Do what you gotta do, man.

1445
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 1: But my guess is most not so much. In our house.

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01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 1: We're among the ninety eight point one percent vote now

1447
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 1: at Mullaggar watch.

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Speaker 16: Love music on Thursday.

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01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 1: You can do whatever you.

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01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 16: Want, man, I not not with a football game.

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01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 1: No, why not?

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01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 16: You can't get hype for a football game. Listen to

1453
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 16: love music.

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01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I haven't tried. We'll see, I

1455
01:15:56,479 --> 01:16:00,959
Speaker 1: haven't really tried. Get stuckd for Bengals. Do it tomorrow?

1456
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 1: We play Christmas carols like in the twenty first Play

1457
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 1: your Sweetest Day music tomorrow. I'm in studio. What the

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01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 1: hell see if anybody notices, if you it will know. Yeah,

1459
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 1: we'll take requests. Kitchen the mood for Sweetest Day. If

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01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 1: you watch a lot of college football, as I do

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01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 1: on Saturdays, you will see these TV commercials where they're

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01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 1: they're asking you to call Congress, call your local member

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01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 1: of the House of Representatives, because, by the way, if

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01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:33,720
Speaker 1: you are in Congress, this is the most pressing issue.

1465
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:38,759
Speaker 1: And the messages tell your congress person to save college sports,

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01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 1: save college football, save Olympic sports, save women's sports, because well,

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01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 1: we've got to pay these athletes now, and it's gonna

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01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 1: be really hard. The schools are gonna go belly up,

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01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:51,720
Speaker 1: and we're not gonna have college but we're not even

1470
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 1: gonna have colleges anymore. This is a popular thing. College

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01:16:57,200 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 1: sports are being ruined, and for me, something is ruined

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01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 1: when people stop consuming it. College football ratings are through

1473
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 1: the roof. College football ratings moving forward will continue to

1474
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:09,639
Speaker 1: be through the roof. The stadiums are full, folks are

1475
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 1: excited about the sport. Quality of play, for the most part,

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01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:16,719
Speaker 1: is really good. I'm watching the fallout from James Franklin

1477
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 1: at Penn State, who's going to be paid forty nine

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01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 1: million dollars to not work. Now, I get it, there's

1479
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 1: like a clause in the contract he has to show

1480
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 1: a good faith effort to get a job to offset

1481
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 1: any of the money to Penn State owes him. But

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01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 1: we're we're talking about UCLA is blown out as coach

1483
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:37,639
Speaker 1: in Virginia Tech and moved on from their coach and

1484
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:41,599
Speaker 1: now high profile obviously Penn State. And these coaches get

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01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 1: these massive buyouts, so much so that it's believed that

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01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 1: the combined cost of buyouts to fired head coaches at

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01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:52,799
Speaker 1: the end of the season will exceed two hundred million dollars.

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01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 1: And so the next time you hear somebody say, well,

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01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 1: college sports, we have to save it. College football it's

1490
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 1: being ruined. Is something really being ruined when people are

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01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 1: being paid that kind of money to not work like

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01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 1: is there is there such a dearth of available funds?

1493
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 1: Is what is going to make college football go belly up?

1494
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:20,719
Speaker 1: The fact that a college football player might be making

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01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 1: low six figures or and by the way, that kid

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Speaker 1: You could post up here for games. He can watch

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Speaker 1: the Bengals game on Thursday. They've got Bengo on Mondays

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Speaker 1: absolute best here at Oakley Greens. We're here till six o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Our friend Sean Sayet is going to join us, coming

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1545
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Speaker 1: Joe Flacco, and in so much more. There's a UC

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Speaker 1: basketball note that we have to address up here in

1547
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 1: just a bit. A few more college football odds and

1548
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 1: ends as well. No major Bengals news today beyond the

1549
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 1: Logan Wilson thing where he has been basically benched in

1550
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 1: favor of Barrett Carter is really interesting to me. Our

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01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 1: friend Charlie Goldsmith, whose newsletter is an absolute must, writes

1552
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:25,280
Speaker 1: about Logan Wilson uses Logan Wilson's quotes and I'm not

1553
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 1: going to read Charlie's work here, go subscribe to his newsletter.

1554
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 1: But Logan Wilson comes off as a guy who's mystified

1555
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 1: as to why he lost his gig, why he lost

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01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 1: his starting job. And the quote that Charlie uses in

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01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:42,680
Speaker 1: the piece from Logan is quote the reason I was

1558
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 1: given was they wanted a spark on defense. Can I

1559
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 1: do something that I'm not supposed to do? When you

1560
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:54,759
Speaker 1: have this job, you're supposed to have a definitive opinion.

1561
01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 1: I could see both sides of this. Number one. I

1562
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:03,720
Speaker 1: could see Logan Wilson looking at the leash given to

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01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:07,599
Speaker 1: some other players going wait a minute, I'm the guy

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01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 1: losing my gig. Like We've had a whole host of

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01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 1: other dudes who haven't performed very well, who uh it

1566
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 1: feels like they get forever, and now I'm the guy

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01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 1: At the same time, and Logan Wilson has had a

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01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 1: really nice Bengals career that goes without saying through different

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01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 1: coordinators and different regimes like, Logan Wilson has been a

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01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 1: net positive for the Cincinnati Bengals. There is a part

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01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 1: of me, though that I look at Logan Wilson and go.

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01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 1: Chances are, at the age of twenty nine, this is

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01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 1: as good as he's gonna get. Maybe let's start to

1574
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:48,920
Speaker 1: see if somebody else can be a little bit better

1575
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 1: than just what Logan Wilson has been and perhaps yes,

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01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 1: provide a little bit of a spark and maybe prove

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01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 1: that they're one of these guys that moving forward they

1578
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 1: can build around. Like I don't know if Barrett Carter

1579
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:07,439
Speaker 1: really has earned a ton more playing time. In fact,

1580
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:10,559
Speaker 1: I watched him on Sunday and often thought like, why

1581
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 1: is he out there so much? But this defense, this

1582
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 1: defense hasn't been very good. This defense hasn't been very

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01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 1: good in a while, And this defense hasn't shown that

1584
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 1: it has that many like legitimate building blocks in a while.

1585
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 1: I think if you understand that to a degree, maybe

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01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 1: it makes sense to try somebody else, Try somebody that

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01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:35,200
Speaker 1: you invested a draft pick in. Like, it's not like

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01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 1: they brought in a whole bunch of other dbs, And

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01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 1: right now, DJ Turner looks like a part of the solution.

1590
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 1: Dax Ill has played. Okay, nobody else really from outside

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01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 1: in that unit a linebacker they did draft too. I

1592
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 1: think most of us really like some of the stuff

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01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 1: we've seen from Demetrius Knight. I like Logan, and I

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01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:57,280
Speaker 1: can understand him being kind of mystified and not understanding

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01:23:57,320 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 1: the explanation. By the way, I would imagine that if

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01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:02,719
Speaker 1: you enough to go talk to Zach Taylor or Al Golden,

1597
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 1: they would give him an explanation. But there is a

1598
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 1: part of me that, after having watched the Bengals defense

1599
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:12,639
Speaker 1: be so uninspiring for so long, can appreciate them turning

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01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:15,680
Speaker 1: the page from a guy like Logan, who, lets face it,

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01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:18,880
Speaker 1: maybe his best years are behind him to somebody who

1602
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:22,000
Speaker 1: could benefit from experience whose best years are hopefully still

1603
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 1: in front of them. We'll see, but it is kind

1604
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 1: of an interesting subplot to what the main plot of

1605
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:33,599
Speaker 1: the Bengals season right now is, which is can Joe

1606
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 1: Flacco rescue it? I am in professional sports. I don't

1607
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 1: believe in moral victories. Sunday was not a moral victory.

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01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 1: I don't believe in moral victories. I do believe in context.

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01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 1: So the context of Sunday was the Bengals are going

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01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 1: on the road to play a more rested team in

1611
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:57,760
Speaker 1: their building. They're going to be fourteen and a half

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01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 1: point favorites. The Bengals are turned to a quarterback who

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01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 1: the previous week was employed by another team, who just

1614
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:08,680
Speaker 1: joined the team really on Wednesday, who's learning the offense

1615
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 1: and building relationships with his teammates on the fly. Nobody

1616
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:17,800
Speaker 1: wanted to hear this, right, I get it. They were

1617
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:21,600
Speaker 1: not going to win that game on Sunday. And I

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01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:27,639
Speaker 1: think anybody, even the most you know, orange and black

1619
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 1: colored glasses optimistic Bengals fan, I think, if they were

1620
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 1: being really truthful, would admit that there was pretty much

1621
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 1: no chance they were going to beat the Green Bay Packers.

1622
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:41,719
Speaker 1: Maybe if they had Joe Burrow, maybe with Jake Browning,

1623
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:45,680
Speaker 1: although I doubt it so, I believe in context, the

1624
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:49,120
Speaker 1: context of that game was they're probably not going to win.

1625
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:52,920
Speaker 1: If you acknowledge that, then you looked at that game

1626
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 1: through a different lens than do they win or do

1627
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:59,639
Speaker 1: they lose. The lens that I looked at it through

1628
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:03,760
Speaker 1: was Okay, can they plan some seeds? Can they plan

1629
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:08,680
Speaker 1: some seeds for success against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Now, this

1630
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 1: game on Thursday is going to be a bear. It

1631
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 1: always is when they play Pittsburgh. The Steelers scored at

1632
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:17,559
Speaker 1: will against him in Cincinnati last year, and they've upgraded

1633
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 1: at quarterbacks since Mike Tomlin. Teams are always difficult like

1634
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:24,839
Speaker 1: this is. They're not fourteen and a half point dogs,

1635
01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:27,280
Speaker 1: but they are five and a half point home dogs

1636
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 1: in a short week, so this is going to be

1637
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 1: a very uphill battle. But I looked at that game

1638
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 1: someday through a very very simple lens and one that

1639
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to look at other Bengals games through

1640
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 1: every again, which is, Okay, they're not going to win.

1641
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 1: But can this game be used for Joe Flacco to,

1642
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, make us feel like there is a

1643
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 1: glimpse of hope, a glimmer of hope, I should say,

1644
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:54,800
Speaker 1: Can the seeds be planted for Joe Flacco to do

1645
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 1: more and do better moving forward? Can they use this

1646
01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:01,479
Speaker 1: game to build chemistry, to to get more on the

1647
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 1: same page, to figure out what things may or may

1648
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 1: not work offensively, to get Joe Flacco comfortable being a

1649
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengal. And look, the advantage they have here is

1650
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 1: Joe's experience, I think Joe's professionalism. I'm calling them Joe

1651
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:18,360
Speaker 1: because we're already in a first name basis, but there

1652
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 1: were things here that could play to their favor, the

1653
01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 1: experience and the professionalism being one of them. I went

1654
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 1: into that game viewing it as a preseason game. The

1655
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 1: result almost meaningless. Now that's not to say there weren't

1656
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:36,439
Speaker 1: things in that game that were deeply frustrating the defense

1657
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:38,559
Speaker 1: in the second half, where it felt like every time

1658
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:40,559
Speaker 1: maybe they have a shot to win, the defense would

1659
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:42,920
Speaker 1: give up a scoring drive to the Packers in the

1660
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:45,840
Speaker 1: second half. I thought the game plan in the first

1661
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 1: half was a tad conservative, although not that much. But

1662
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:53,599
Speaker 1: by and large I looked at that as a preseason game,

1663
01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 1: and in a preseason game, who wins and who loses

1664
01:27:57,320 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 1: is irrelevant. Can things happen in that game that's set

1665
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:04,479
Speaker 1: the stage for larger scale success. Now you have a

1666
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:07,720
Speaker 1: game on Thursday. Let's be honest, it feels like the

1667
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 1: entire season hinges on this. If they win this one,

1668
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna look at the schedule, we're gonna look at

1669
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 1: who they play, and we're gonna start to talk about

1670
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 1: the pathway to at least being in the hunt when

1671
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:23,800
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow comes back in mid December, assuming for a

1672
01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:27,599
Speaker 1: second he will, and that's maybe an ambitious assumption. If

1673
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 1: they lose this game, it's who are they trading. What

1674
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 1: are they getting for Trey Hendrickson? Are they trading Logan Wilson?

1675
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:36,680
Speaker 1: What is the roster going to look like in a

1676
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:39,360
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. How do they hit the reset button

1677
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 1: as quickly as possible. Now you might go, well, then

1678
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 1: they'll beat the Jets and beat the Bears, which I

1679
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:46,120
Speaker 1: think the second of those two things is going to

1680
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:49,599
Speaker 1: be difficult. Two and five. Nobody's gonna be talking about

1681
01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 1: the AFC North two and five. Very few will consider

1682
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:56,559
Speaker 1: their postseason possibilities. The math starts to get really hard.

1683
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:58,599
Speaker 1: I said this about an hour ago to Paul Danner

1684
01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 1: Junior two and five. It feels like game over. Three

1685
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:05,960
Speaker 1: and four feels like game on. At least to use

1686
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:09,559
Speaker 1: the next few games to stay on the hunt, continue

1687
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:11,800
Speaker 1: to work on some things, let the rest of the

1688
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 1: AFC play out, play yourself into playoff contention, hopefully, all

1689
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 1: the while Joe Burrow is progressing. And by the way,

1690
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:20,679
Speaker 1: there's a part of that that you can't really wrap

1691
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:23,719
Speaker 1: your brain around, because there's not been many concrete updates

1692
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:27,240
Speaker 1: about Joe Burrow. We'll see they may get destroyed on Thursday.

1693
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:30,840
Speaker 1: Nobody would be surprised. They may get steamrolled by Pittsburgh's

1694
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 1: offense on Thursday, nobody would be surprised. Joe Flacco's age

1695
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 1: and poor offensive line may catch up to him. Nobody

1696
01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:40,880
Speaker 1: would be surprised. But at the very least of that

1697
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 1: game on Sunday, you saw an offense that wasn't as clunky.

1698
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:47,639
Speaker 1: We didn't have all the delay of game issues or

1699
01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 1: having to burn timeouts. There were no major issues getting

1700
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 1: the play called, all the stuff that they couldn't master

1701
01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:56,920
Speaker 1: with Jake Browning, all the stuff that if you can't master,

1702
01:29:57,439 --> 01:30:01,880
Speaker 1: forget about, you know, doing anything remotely complex offensively. I

1703
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:04,320
Speaker 1: thought the offensive line in the second half played all right.

1704
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 1: I thought you could see the chemistry forming in front

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Speaker 1: of our eyes between Joe and his receivers. And again,

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Speaker 1: maybe the Steelers are going to have an antidote to that,

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Speaker 1: and that would be unsurprising. But I didn't think they

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Speaker 1: were beating the Green Bay Packers, And be honest, if

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Speaker 1: you're a Bengals fan, you weren't either. If you paid

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Speaker 1: attention to that game, I think you looked at it

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Speaker 1: through the lens of can they plan some seeds that

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Speaker 1: they can they can water so to speak and may

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Speaker 1: end up being something they can build on and use

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Speaker 1: and beat the Pittsburgh Steelers with. We will see a

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Speaker 1: you through it and he'll tell us more about it

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Speaker 1: here in just a few minutes. First, Sean, what's going on?

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01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:18,320
Speaker 13: How are you?

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01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 11: No?

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01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:22,160
Speaker 3: Nothing much, Yeah, just always enjoying talking about our bangles.

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01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:27,679
Speaker 11: Second place in the AFC. Nor maybe consider consider hanging

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Speaker 11: the batter now.

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01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:30,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say let's let's go ahead. Let's go

1751
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:33,280
Speaker 3: ahead and do that. But doing well, it's fun to

1752
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:34,880
Speaker 3: watch a little bit. Joe Blaco, you were right. You

1753
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:35,760
Speaker 3: said that Blaco was.

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01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 11: Going to start.

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01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:38,760
Speaker 3: I thought you were being silly, but you certainly know

1756
01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:39,240
Speaker 3: better than I.

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Speaker 11: Do.

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01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:43,800
Speaker 1: I am usually not right about anything, but that that

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01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:46,960
Speaker 1: seemed to me like the most likely outcome. I looked

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01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:48,720
Speaker 1: at that game on Sunday, and I've talked about it

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01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 1: here in the last two days. I looked at that

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01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:53,160
Speaker 1: game on Sunday as a preseason game, like, yeah, it'd

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01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 1: be cool if they win, but they're fourteen and a

1764
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:57,639
Speaker 1: half point dogs. They have all sorts of defensive issues.

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01:32:58,120 --> 01:33:00,639
Speaker 1: Show me something as the game moves far that makes

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01:33:00,680 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 1: me feel like this Joe Flacco thing can work to

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01:33:03,160 --> 01:33:06,600
Speaker 1: an agree And I feel like, as much as a

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01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:08,680
Speaker 1: lot of folks don't want to hear it, mission accomplished.

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01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 8: Yeah I don't want to.

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Speaker 11: You know, we actually don't have to hang in the banner.

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Speaker 3: But I was going in very much ready to look

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01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 3: at the film and say, man, like Flacco is, he

1773
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:22,320
Speaker 3: had absolutely nothing, there's nothing that can come of this offense,

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01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:25,000
Speaker 3: and I was a little bit surprised there was definitely

1775
01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:26,719
Speaker 3: some positive there where.

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Speaker 11: Look, Flacco certainly.

1777
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:30,519
Speaker 3: Doesn't have the entire play sheet and like the whole

1778
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:32,559
Speaker 3: entire playbook yet, so as weeks go on, you can

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01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:35,760
Speaker 3: probably expand it just a little bit. Obviously, hopefully he's

1780
01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:38,439
Speaker 3: able to stay healthy but he's able to keep the

1781
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 3: trains moving on top. You know, I think you can

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01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:43,320
Speaker 3: probably leave that game feeling decent about it, where you

1783
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:45,599
Speaker 3: just look more competent than you did when you had

1784
01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:48,640
Speaker 3: Jake Browning in that spot. So I'm curious, you know,

1785
01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 3: how much is that able to continue overall? Like are

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01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:53,519
Speaker 3: you able to you know, tie together with the run

1787
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:55,760
Speaker 3: game that is actually able to throw and defense is

1788
01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:58,080
Speaker 3: just a little bit because he can definitely throw the

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01:33:58,120 --> 01:34:00,880
Speaker 3: ball deep down the field off action, and you know,

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01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:03,360
Speaker 3: I think Jamar Chase is probably pretty happy about how

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01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:04,519
Speaker 3: that one turned out as well.

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01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:07,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, no question. They were running a lot of tosses too,

1793
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:09,360
Speaker 1: which is not something we typically see here.

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01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:13,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think against defenses that are really up the field,

1795
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:17,519
Speaker 3: like you, you're gonna have defenders really trying to attack you,

1796
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:19,320
Speaker 3: you can try and like have someone just kind of

1797
01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:21,920
Speaker 3: hin down on the outside, defender get that ball on

1798
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:24,160
Speaker 3: the outside. Of course, you feel comfortable with Chase brown

1799
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:26,840
Speaker 3: running in space, I think it's a it's got to

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Speaker 3: be a game to game approach, just in terms of

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01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:30,040
Speaker 3: the running game. It's thought it was going to be, hey,

1802
01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:32,680
Speaker 3: under center, We're going to run straight at you at

1803
01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:35,040
Speaker 3: your middle, linebacker up the middle. I think if if

1804
01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 3: you can combine sort of spread elements of the offense

1805
01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:40,439
Speaker 3: and you know, stretch the defense in different directions, that

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01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:42,599
Speaker 3: can usually be a pretty positive thing.

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Speaker 1: All right. So if you're if you're Zach Taylor and

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01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:51,600
Speaker 1: Dan Pitcher and you have what Joe Flacco did on Sunday,

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01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:54,520
Speaker 1: and now you want to build upon it against the Steelers.

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01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:58,440
Speaker 1: Admittedly with a short week that makes it slightly more difficult.

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01:34:58,520 --> 01:34:59,320
Speaker 1: Where do you begin?

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Speaker 11: I think it's got to be a quick passing game overall.

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01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:04,960
Speaker 3: I think you've probably be a little bit scared just

1814
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:08,240
Speaker 3: about the Steelers pass rush overall. You know, it could

1815
01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:11,559
Speaker 3: be a situation where you're really spreading things out, like

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01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 3: you're getting into some of those empty sets where you're

1817
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:16,760
Speaker 3: gonna be able to see, Okay, Pittsburgh probably out blitzing here,

1818
01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:19,439
Speaker 3: but the way they play zone coverage, there's gonna be

1819
01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:21,679
Speaker 3: this open gap. I can just take kind of quick

1820
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:24,839
Speaker 3: throw underneath. I'm gonna be curious, you know, as defenses

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01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:27,200
Speaker 3: they're seeing more of Flacco, like, it's probably gonna it's

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01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:29,000
Speaker 3: like a threes in layups kind of approach those quick

1823
01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:30,879
Speaker 3: throws underneath some of those deep.

1824
01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:32,240
Speaker 11: Shots over the top.

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01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:34,360
Speaker 3: So you still want to find ways to get those

1826
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:37,880
Speaker 3: one on one isolation throws because you're gonna just win those.

1827
01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:40,360
Speaker 11: Flat out kind of often with Jamar Chase.

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Speaker 3: But I'm curious just how creative can you be in

1829
01:35:44,160 --> 01:35:46,160
Speaker 3: terms of ways to get the ball out of Flacco's

1830
01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:47,240
Speaker 3: hands as quick as possible.

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Speaker 11: If he's gonna be decisive.

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01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:50,120
Speaker 3: You know, he's not gonna want to hang out in

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01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:52,400
Speaker 3: the pocket for four seconds. He's not gonna want to

1834
01:35:52,439 --> 01:35:54,400
Speaker 3: run around there. He doesn't have to because if he's

1835
01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:56,000
Speaker 3: able to get rid of the ball quick, then I

1836
01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:59,120
Speaker 3: think you can get some of those consistent drives against

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01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:01,479
Speaker 3: the Steelers team. Yeah, I don't love their offense or

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01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:02,960
Speaker 3: do you find the thing? It is certainly a positive

1839
01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:03,719
Speaker 3: unit overall.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to ask you about them here in

1841
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:10,040
Speaker 1: just the second Sean sayed sumer sports dot Com. The

1842
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:13,920
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1843
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Speaker 1: in your inbox multiple times per week. I thought, and

1844
01:36:18,479 --> 01:36:21,240
Speaker 1: this is I guess more just about personnel. I thought

1845
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:22,880
Speaker 1: in the second half of that game, there was a

1846
01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:27,160
Speaker 1: level of proficiency from the offensive line that if that continues,

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01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:29,800
Speaker 1: and you're being reasonable, if you assume it won't, but

1848
01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:33,800
Speaker 1: if that continues could sort of I don't know, at

1849
01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:36,599
Speaker 1: the very least gives Joe Flacco a chance because we've

1850
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 1: talked about as immobility for so long.

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01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:41,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean kind of surprising, right when you think

1852
01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:43,960
Speaker 3: about this game, As you mentioned, the Packers were a

1853
01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:46,720
Speaker 3: huge favorite. I think the overall pressure percentage was only

1854
01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:49,719
Speaker 3: around like twenty five percent, which on the grand scale,

1855
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:52,439
Speaker 3: that is not like a super super high percentage. And

1856
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:55,200
Speaker 3: sometimes that even happened where Flacco did hold on the

1857
01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:57,080
Speaker 3: ball just maybe a little bit further. You're trying to

1858
01:36:57,120 --> 01:37:01,080
Speaker 3: develop something as well, So if you can build the positive.

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01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:03,639
Speaker 11: Performance that that could be good, because you know, the.

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01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:06,760
Speaker 3: Packers as a team are funky because at some point

1861
01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:09,760
Speaker 3: they look like literally guaranteed Super Bowl champions, and at

1862
01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:11,719
Speaker 3: some point they look like a team that doesn't deserve

1863
01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:14,160
Speaker 3: to even be in the playoffs, like they really do

1864
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:16,400
Speaker 3: run hot and cold. But I think from this game

1865
01:37:16,439 --> 01:37:18,840
Speaker 3: you can take some of those positives where Mo, it

1866
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:20,800
Speaker 3: feels like that we haven't been able to do that

1867
01:37:21,160 --> 01:37:22,880
Speaker 3: all the time this year, so maybe it's a little

1868
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:25,679
Speaker 3: bit of rose colored glasses, but taking a low pressure

1869
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:28,040
Speaker 3: number overall and moving that forward. You know, that can

1870
01:37:28,120 --> 01:37:30,120
Speaker 3: be something that you can certainly build around for the

1871
01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:30,760
Speaker 3: rest of the year.

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Speaker 1: You said you don't love Pittsburgh's offense. Why not?

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Speaker 3: So I think for Aaron Rodgers at this point in

1874
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:40,439
Speaker 3: his career, he's going to be a low time to

1875
01:37:40,479 --> 01:37:42,280
Speaker 3: throw a quarterback, so he's going to get rid of

1876
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:45,519
Speaker 3: the ball pretty quickly. You're going to see a lot

1877
01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:48,960
Speaker 3: of underneath throws. Overall, it feels like they're.

1878
01:37:48,720 --> 01:37:51,160
Speaker 11: Winning some of these games based.

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01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:53,400
Speaker 3: On I mean one and obviously like plays on their

1880
01:37:53,439 --> 01:37:56,240
Speaker 3: defense or like big zards after catch plays from DK

1881
01:37:56,400 --> 01:38:00,000
Speaker 3: Metcalf or these these things that feel just not as repeatable.

1882
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:01,880
Speaker 3: And I know this is just could be like how

1883
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:04,880
Speaker 3: well like my personal taste in offense is and kind

1884
01:38:04,880 --> 01:38:07,960
Speaker 3: of how I like, look at what is sustainable overall.

1885
01:38:08,479 --> 01:38:10,360
Speaker 11: I mean, it's a Thursday night, so obviously that's tough.

1886
01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:12,719
Speaker 11: The Steelers should be favorites in that game.

1887
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:14,960
Speaker 3: But there was like a little bit of a fun

1888
01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:18,439
Speaker 3: from the Bengals defense, just like a little bit you

1889
01:38:18,479 --> 01:38:21,280
Speaker 3: get the interception of course against Jordan Love as well.

1890
01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 3: When I look back to the Steelers game, okay, the

1891
01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:25,519
Speaker 3: Jets in Week one, you know, I think We're all

1892
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:27,360
Speaker 3: seeing where the Jets are at. Now You're able to

1893
01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:29,880
Speaker 3: beat the Patriots in the game where the Patriots have

1894
01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:33,000
Speaker 3: five turnovers. You're beating the Vikings and the Browns with

1895
01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:35,240
Speaker 3: their backup quarterbacks. So you know, I guess maybe the

1896
01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:38,280
Speaker 3: Steelers superpower this year is they consistently are able to

1897
01:38:38,280 --> 01:38:40,519
Speaker 3: face backup quarterbacks. So I would love for this to

1898
01:38:40,520 --> 01:38:43,640
Speaker 3: be the upset week for the Bengals. It feels like,

1899
01:38:44,439 --> 01:38:46,160
Speaker 3: you know, you can get that offense a little bit

1900
01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:48,240
Speaker 3: stuck in the mud, maybe create something there.

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01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:52,759
Speaker 1: You know, this is Pittsburgh's threatening to run away and hide.

1902
01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:54,960
Speaker 1: I think if they win this game on Thursday, you

1903
01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:58,599
Speaker 1: almost assume they do. If not, it feels like, all right,

1904
01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:02,360
Speaker 1: the division is more wide open. Maybe the Bengals aren't

1905
01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:05,040
Speaker 1: going to be a factor. Should fans in Baltimore give

1906
01:39:05,120 --> 01:39:06,560
Speaker 1: up on them being a factor with the one and

1907
01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:07,520
Speaker 1: five record.

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01:39:08,439 --> 01:39:11,400
Speaker 3: That is tough, right, It's good that for Baltimore that

1909
01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:14,599
Speaker 3: you have that extra wild card spawn now.

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01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:17,360
Speaker 11: Of course, like you, that's what your eyes are on.

1911
01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:19,600
Speaker 3: I don't think you're looking at the division win, But

1912
01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:21,400
Speaker 3: then you look at the schedule the rest of the way.

1913
01:39:21,920 --> 01:39:25,519
Speaker 11: Bengals twice the Jets, the Browns, you.

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01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:28,880
Speaker 3: Know, Vikings, backup quarterback Dolphins that are falling apart a

1915
01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:30,800
Speaker 3: little bit there, and then you know you're still there,

1916
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:32,559
Speaker 3: gonna get the Steelers twice as well.

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Speaker 12: So the Ravens have.

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Speaker 11: To pretty much win eight games like in a row

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Speaker 11: with Lamar Jackson, and that's possible.

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Speaker 3: It is, right, So I can't say, hey, we're gonna

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Speaker 3: ignore this, just like last year when we were talking

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Speaker 3: about the Bengals and say, look, you can just you

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Speaker 3: can still get to the playoffs with Joe Burrow, like

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Speaker 3: we're really close at the end, and like you're able

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Speaker 3: to win a bunch of games in important spots. But

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Speaker 3: the way that the defense played, I thought, actually for

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Speaker 3: the Ravens against the Rams, where now they have Kyle

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Speaker 3: Howlinson playing close to the line of scrimmage, not all

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Speaker 3: the way back at safety, play that sort of slot

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Speaker 3: corner type role, I think gonna help the physicality of

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Speaker 3: the defense overall. So I personally am not, you know,

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Speaker 3: betting my future on the Ravens making the playoffs.

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Speaker 11: But I'm also not gonna like just like nail the

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Speaker 11: final nail in that puff and yet.

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Speaker 1: Awesome stuff as always, uh, let's first talk about the

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Speaker 3: Appreciate that it's all the advanced data you need. We

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Speaker 3: built it that if you became head coach of a

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Speaker 3: team tomorrow, what is all the information that you would

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Speaker 3: need to see in terms of a matchup.

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Speaker 11: So it's been fun to write them up.

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Speaker 3: It's been fun to build a little bit of a

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Speaker 11: Don't understand all the data, we have a glossary if

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Speaker 11: you do. We also have this nice color coding.

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Speaker 3: You can see, Okay, well this team is green in

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Speaker 3: this spot and the defense is red in that spot.

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Speaker 11: It's been really fun to work on. We've gotten some

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Speaker 11: good feedback and I think it's pretty helpful. So I

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Speaker 1: All rightsoomer sports dot com the Suomer Brain. I was

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Speaker 1: watching you walk people through it. What is it?

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Speaker 11: So it's been a lot of fun.

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Speaker 3: It's basically our whole entire database that you can just

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Speaker 3: it's gonna spit out in a few seconds.

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Speaker 11: This is exactly what happens. I really enjoyed it.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a better way to get more people,

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Speaker 3: more data at a higher level. It's still an open beta,

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Speaker 3: so we're certainly going to have some issues that kind

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Speaker 11: But it's been fun for me to work on.

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Speaker 3: It's been fun for me to check things and watch

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Speaker 3: some plays and say, well, why does the model think.

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Speaker 11: It's this coverage, but I think it's that carverage. It's

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Speaker 11: been cool.

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Speaker 3: I would recommend giving it a spin, see what should

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Speaker 3: come out. Maybe you'll also find what are the numbers

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Speaker 3: that are going to help the Bangals win this week.

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Speaker 1: Sumersports dot com Sumer always love having you. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: next week.

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2006
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Speaker 1: have a Bengals injury report. Are you ready? I know

2007
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Speaker 1: you're excited. Shamar Stewart full go again for tonight's workout.

2008
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Speaker 1: Bengals getting set to play Pittsburgh's. Same for Lucas Patrick's,

2009
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Speaker 1: same for a Marius Mimms. That's no change in their

2010
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Speaker 1: status from yesterday. The guys who didn't go yesterday include

2011
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Speaker 1: Charlie Jones with rib issue. Tanner Hudson remains in concussion protocol.

2012
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Speaker 1: Bj Hill nir day yesterday, Same today, Trey Hendrickson and

2013
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Speaker 1: Nogo today. Dylan Fairchild a fool go. No Mikeasicki either,

2014
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Speaker 1: which is no surprise. Bengals and Steelers Thursday night, eight fifteen.

2015
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Speaker 1: The game is live on ESPN fifteen thirty. Pre game

2016
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Speaker 1: coverage begins with a collaborative effort between myself, Lance McAllister

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Speaker 1: and Rocky Boyman that is gonna be enormous, and we're

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Speaker 1: looking forward to that three o'clock on Thursday. If you

2019
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Speaker 1: want some UC football talk tonight, the Scott Sanderfield radio

2020
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Speaker 1: show is at eight o'clock on seven hundred w welw.

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Speaker 1: I get the opportunity to host that show. So if

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Speaker 1: things start to go poorly the rest of the season,

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Speaker 1: you can blame me. I'm gonna say the Bearcats finish

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Speaker 1: the season. I'm a little bit more optimistic than some

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Speaker 1: because I think the schedule breaks their way a little bit. Now.

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Speaker 1: They do have to play Utah on the road, not

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Speaker 1: gonna be easy. They do have to play BYU. That

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Speaker 1: game is gonna be here, not gonna be easy. They

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Speaker 1: do have to go to Ta not gonna be easy.

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Speaker 1: Baylor here is not gonna be easy. I think they

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Speaker 1: will split those four games and finish with three losses.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that that's gonna be good enough to

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Speaker 1: put him in the Big twelve championship game. I would

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Speaker 1: walk away from a nine to three season feeling pretty good.

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Speaker 1: I frankly feel like anything shy of nine wins would

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Speaker 1: feel disappointing. We will maybe I'll tell Scott Saderfield tonight

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Speaker 1: that and see what he says. I don't know. This

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Speaker 1: is not good news if you're a UC basketball fan.

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Speaker 1: It's not good news if you're Jalen Haynes. Jalen Haynes

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Speaker 1: is the player who transferred to Cincinnati from George Mason

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Speaker 1: and average more than fourteen and just under seven boards

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Speaker 1: a game. He has been ruled out indefinitely with what

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Speaker 1: the school is calling an undisclosed lower body injury. The

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Speaker 1: Bearcats have an exhibition game on Friday at Michigan, then

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Speaker 1: won against Arkansas and Fayetteville a week from Friday. Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: opens up against Western Carolina on November third and looks

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Speaker 1: like will be without Jalen Haynes. Bearcats have I've talked

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Speaker 1: about this often. I think they have this sort of

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Speaker 1: team where the pieces are gonna fit better than they

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Speaker 1: did last year. I felt like last year they acquired

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Speaker 1: a bunch of talent, thought that they could just figure

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Speaker 1: out a way to make it work. I feel like

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Speaker 1: with the way they've constructed the roster this year, they've

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Speaker 1: done exactly that. They've constructed a roster instead of just

2055
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Speaker 1: compiling talent. Baseball Tonight game two Brewers Dodgers NLCS Peralta

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Speaker 1: versus Yamamoto eight oh eight is tonight's first pitch after

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Speaker 1: a great game won last night, where Blake Snow was

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Speaker 1: simply terrific. We can take some phone calls, Bob, You're

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Speaker 1: on ESPN fifteen thirty, Bob, good afternoon. How are you hey?

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Speaker 12: Mom? Doing great?

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Speaker 13: Hey?

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Speaker 15: First off, wanting to give you a report from rapp

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Speaker 15: Arena on the October third.

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Speaker 1: Oh the Eric Church show. Yes, how was it?

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Speaker 12: Well?

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Speaker 15: We first off got to go backstage. We were in

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Speaker 15: the pit all night and I was great.

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Speaker 1: So Eric seemed to meet Bob from Bowling Green.

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Speaker 12: No, no, I didn't did not get advanced to meet him.

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Speaker 15: We were we were back there prior to of Eric

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Speaker 15: coming out.

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Speaker 1: But what is the scene What is the scene like

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Speaker 1: backstage in an Eric Church concert?

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Speaker 12: Well, you know what we had.

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Speaker 15: We'd gotten there a little bit late for the first act.

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Speaker 12: In fact, even so, there weren't many people back there.

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Speaker 15: There was just, oh my god, so many cases and

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Speaker 15: things of you know the load of stuff.

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Speaker 12: That they have to bring into these shows.

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Speaker 15: And uh so we saw some computer guys and different

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Speaker 15: things like that, but we we really didn't see a

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Speaker 15: ton of folks all.

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Speaker 1: Right, very good. What else was on your mind?

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Speaker 12: Well, didn't want to give you an update.

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Speaker 1: No oh.

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Speaker 15: The Blues of course opened up last Tuesday with a

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Speaker 15: five nothing loss to Minnesota Wild. But since then they've

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Speaker 15: made a trip to Western Canada and actually beat the

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Speaker 15: Calgary Flames and last night the Vancouver Canucks with the

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Speaker 15: first two goals of the year by Jimmy Snugger.

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Speaker 1: Red Jimmy snuggerreod off to a great start. But I've

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Speaker 1: noticed that Jake Nabors is their leading goalscorer through three games.

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Speaker 15: Well, he got an empty matter last night, which was

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Speaker 15: the third, right, but yeah, he's.

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Speaker 12: He's played well.

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Speaker 15: Really pretty much the team itself, minus opening night, has

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Speaker 15: has played very well, very good.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm rooting, I'm I'm I'm adopting the Blues. I guess.

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Speaker 15: You know what, if you've got an extra hundred bucks,

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Speaker 15: I'd put it on.

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Speaker 8: There for them to win the Stanley Cup this year.

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Speaker 1: You're feeling that confident in your beloved Blues that they'll

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Speaker 1: win the Cup for the for the second time in

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Speaker 1: what would that would be six years? When they like

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Speaker 1: they wanted a few years ago.

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Speaker 15: Uh, they wanted six years ago and it would be

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Speaker 15: the second time in fifty nine years for them.

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Speaker 1: They're very good, and they still played the Laura Brandigan

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Speaker 1: Gloria is still is, Jennifisher still calling.

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Speaker 15: Glory Gloria has kind of gone away, and more importantly

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Speaker 15: than that, their long time announcer.

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Speaker 1: Uh oh, they fired him. They can Yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 1: rooting for them then.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, no, no, don't know. Yeah, And most people in

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Speaker 15: town just absolutely dated that fact. But the guy that

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Speaker 15: took over, he's done the radio for a number of

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Speaker 15: years and he's really good good, but you know, it's

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Speaker 15: it's a cost cutting thing.

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Speaker 12: But I wanted to tell you one final thing.

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Speaker 15: Logan Wilson, I think the deal with him, he's playing

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Speaker 15: for UC the day before every year and every game,

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Speaker 15: and I think I think that's what really hurt him.

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Speaker 12: I think more than anything.

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Speaker 1: And the workload. And you know, the Bearcats have them

2125
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Speaker 1: playing corner and the Bengals are asking me to play linebacker,

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Speaker 1: and it's I think it's starting to take both a

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Speaker 1: physical and mental toll.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, and I haven't heard anybody else mention that, But anyway,

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Speaker 15: that's the story.

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Speaker 1: I think you've gotten to the bottom of it. Bob

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Speaker 1: as always, I appreciate the time.

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Speaker 12: No common on thank you?

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Speaker 1: Was that plus six thousand for the plus five thousand

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Speaker 1: for the Saint Louis Blues. Why not care whatever. I'm

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Speaker 1: a very casual Blue Jackets fan, but we'll plunk down

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Speaker 1: some some dough in the Saint Louis Blues. We're off

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Speaker 1: to a blistering uh and two and one start. Hey,

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Speaker 1: you know the folks at Oakley Greens, they they run

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Speaker 1: this place, but they also run Covington Yard, and we

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Speaker 1: love Covington Yard. What I love about Oakley Greens and

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Speaker 1: Covington Yard is there's no ambiguity as to where either

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Speaker 1: establishment is in Oakley. It's Oakley Greens, Covington Yard it's

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Speaker 1: in Covington. Well, you know, we got Thursday night football

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Speaker 1: coming to town. So you got Amazon doing the game.

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Speaker 1: He got Al Michaels, former voice of the Reds. He

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Speaker 1: got Kirk curb Street and his dog coming to town.

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Speaker 1: And then you have you got Richard Sherman, you got

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Speaker 1: Carissa Thompson. Tony Gonzalez is on that set for some reason.

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Speaker 1: But you also have Ryan Fitzpatrick played for the Bengals

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight. Ryan Fitzpatrick I think has

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Speaker 1: the most unique quarterback career of all time because he

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Speaker 1: played for a billion teams, had a bunch of really

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Speaker 1: good years, and never played in a playoff game. But

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Speaker 1: also Andrew Whitworth. Andrew Whitworth and Ryan Fitzpatrick do the

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Speaker 1: Fits and Wit podcast and they're going to be doing

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Speaker 1: that show tomorrow night at Covington Yard. And that sounds

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Speaker 1: amazing because you got Andrew Whitworth wearing the hoodie and

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Speaker 1: the jacket, which if I rock that look, people would go,

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Speaker 1: what are you doing? He makes it look good. And

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Speaker 1: then he'll be on set there with Ryan Fitzpatrick and

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Speaker 1: they may have any number of them amazing guests coming

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Speaker 1: out to Oakley Green. So tomorrow the Fits and Wit

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Speaker 1: Live Show, the doors are going to open at five

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Speaker 1: o'clock and the show is going to begin at seven

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Speaker 1: thirty right there in Covington Yard. So great way to

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Speaker 1: get set for Thursday night football. And you can meet

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Speaker 1: Andrew Whitworth who's going to be in Canton one day,

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Speaker 1: and you can meet Ryan Fitzpatrick who might drive through

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Speaker 1: Canton one day. And that's going to be a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun tomorrow there at Covington Yard. It's eight away

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Speaker 1: from six o'clock. This is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 10: Station Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 6: Traffic from the uc Health Traffic Center.

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Speaker 5: The UC Health Women's Sports Medicine Program provides specialized care

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Speaker 5: for female athletes at all levels. Schedule and appointment online

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Speaker 5: at UCHealth dot com. The left lane remains blocked off

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Speaker 5: from an earlier vehicle fire on eastbound two seventy five

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Speaker 5: approaching Taylor Mill Road. About an hour's worth of delays

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Speaker 5: back from seventy one on Blue Rock Road. It's another accident.

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Speaker 5: This one is at Ronald Reagan Highway. I'm at Ezelach

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Speaker 5: with traffic.

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