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Speaker 1: Well, I think the big problem is if you've got

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Speaker 1: Appreciated Jay, as always five twenty nine. Right now if

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Speaker 1: order in which there was See Patrick, you are number one.

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Speaker 1: Who's next? Joe Tracker, New Hampshire, Gary, Welcome to the program.

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Speaker 5: How you doing, Brian, Hey, now that global warming is

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Speaker 1: No, no, now, I I'll just give it on to

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Speaker 1: By forty one fifty five, Karrosite Talks Station, Happy Friday, Eve,

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Speaker 9: A little bit better?

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Speaker 9: You know, where did we get into the culture of

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Speaker 9: you know, well, hey, if I just need more money

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Speaker 9: a month, I'll just pop another kid out. And that

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Speaker 9: is part of the problem where we have created this.

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Speaker 9: And then you know, the government just turns around and says, oh,

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Speaker 9: here you need more Well, here's another spoonful of government

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Speaker 9: program for you, and then what runs out of money?

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Speaker 9: They're in a panic when people take a look at

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Speaker 9: your life and take a look at how you've lifted

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Speaker 9: and start being responsible. And I see elderly people that

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Speaker 9: can't even afford medicine that they desperately need. And then

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Speaker 9: these people are out there on their one hundred dollars

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Speaker 9: cell phones crying about this.

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Speaker 1: One hundred thousand thousand dollars cell phones. Yeah, if, oh,

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Speaker 1: if we only lived in a time where the cell

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Speaker 1: phones are merely a hundred dollars, then you have that

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Speaker 1: pesky monthly free to use the cell phone. And then

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Speaker 1: you have to have your Netflix service and your Hulu service,

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Speaker 1: and your Amazon Prime service and your Hbo Plus, and

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Speaker 1: you got to be It goes on and on and on.

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Speaker 1: Every dollar the federal government goes toward your food or

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Speaker 1: your housing, or your healthcare. That frees up money so

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Speaker 1: you can buy these other things that you deem crucial

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Speaker 1: and integral to your life and necessary and must have.

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Speaker 1: It's like internet access. You and I have the American

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Speaker 1: taxpayer paying to bring internet access to literally every man,

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Speaker 1: woman in child in America. Why because well, we all

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Speaker 1: need it. I guess Tom, Welcome to the Morning show.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for holding Yeah, good.

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Speaker 11: Morning, and Patrick, I feel your pain. I'm getting learning

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Speaker 11: better and better as I come up to this job

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Speaker 11: more often where my dead spots are and uh yeah,

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Speaker 11: I was right in the middle of one yesterday, so

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Speaker 11: I wasn't able to finish my thoughts. So I think

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Speaker 11: what I think what Jay was. The argument that Jay

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Speaker 11: is hitting on and that you are arguing back with,

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Speaker 11: is we're we're all trying to come up with a

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Speaker 11: a landing way to land Like you're you're kind of

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Speaker 11: maybe you're not thinking you're doing this, but you're kind

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Speaker 11: of advocating for a softer landing because of the potential

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Speaker 11: riots that might happen. And Jay's like, screw it, I

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Speaker 11: don't care. Let's just lay in this thing. Let's try

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Speaker 11: and burn. And I and I get I get both

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Speaker 11: at both arguments. I do because because regardless of how

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Speaker 11: it lands, Uh, this thing's coming down eventually, it's gonna

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Speaker 11: happen one way or another. So we either start bringing

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Speaker 11: it down ourselves, and the politicians don't want to be

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Speaker 11: blamed for crashing and burning, but it's it's got to

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Speaker 11: come down. It cannot stay afloat.

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Speaker 4: It has to uh.

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Speaker 11: And and what Patrick was touching on is uh, at

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Speaker 11: some point we've been talking about this, you've gotta feel

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Speaker 11: some pain. Everybody's gonna have to feel some pain. And unfortunately,

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Speaker 11: the people who have put themselves or allowed themselves to

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Speaker 11: stay in a position where they are dependent upon the

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Speaker 11: government are are going to feel it really bad. They're

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Speaker 11: gonna they're gonna get hit. They're getting ready, no member first,

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Speaker 11: and getting ready snap paint. There's no money for snap. Okay,

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Speaker 11: that that's a wow. That's holy crap. What are we

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Speaker 11: gonna do. Well, what we're gonna do is we're gonna

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Speaker 11: we're gonna buckle up and figure out a way to

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Speaker 11: get through this. That's what he individual person has to

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Speaker 11: deal with. And I'm not trying to say it's easy.

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Speaker 10: It's not.

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Speaker 11: It's going to suck. It's gonna suck for all of us.

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Speaker 11: But if we're gonna either we're gonna run out of

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Speaker 11: money giving it all away, or we're gonna run out

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Speaker 11: of money, and it's gonna take a little longer because

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Speaker 11: we're gonna, little by a little start chipping away at

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Speaker 11: it bringing it back. How little exactly that is, I

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Speaker 11: don't know, but it takes people with Judge to say,

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Speaker 11: I understand this is going to hurt. I'm really sorry,

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Speaker 11: this is gonna hurt, but we've got to do something

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Speaker 11: to fix this. We've got to bring it down. And

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Speaker 11: nobody wants to be the person from the family and go,

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Speaker 11: I understand this is going to hurt and we're not

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Speaker 11: doing it, but the Democrats are doing it to try

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Speaker 11: to win something politically. Well, that's not why it's going

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Speaker 11: to hurt. It's gonna hurt because we're running out of money, folks.

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Speaker 11: We've gotta do something about this, and we're not gonna

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Speaker 11: do it with Rhinos and Democrats. They're just gonna spend

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Speaker 11: it all and we're gonna come straight down, crash and burn,

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Speaker 11: and it's gonna hurt like catastrophically. Don't vote Rhino and

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Speaker 11: don't vote Democrat.

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Speaker 4: Have a great day.

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Speaker 1: Thanks, Tom, appreciate it. One of them unnecessarily advocating for

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Speaker 1: that soft flame. I'm just merely trying to explain what

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Speaker 1: I believe, what I perceive personally. We all know what

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Speaker 1: opinions are like, the political dynamic that our elected officials

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Speaker 1: are wrestling with is it going to be chaotic or

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Speaker 1: is it going to be a softer approach to this?

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Speaker 1: But fundamentally, I think Tom's right. We either fix the problem,

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Speaker 1: you know, I keep the government shut down, bring this

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Speaker 1: situation to people's awareness, recognize that opening the government up

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Speaker 1: under the long the Democrats' terms and conditions are going

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Speaker 1: to add additional one point five trillion dollars to the

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Speaker 1: national debt, or were going to start chipping away at

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Speaker 1: the national debt slowly and surely and methodically, like for example,

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Speaker 1: with one of Senator Ran Paul's proposals, like the one

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Speaker 1: percent of the five percent plan. Something has got to

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Speaker 1: give five forty seven and fifty five kcity talk stations.

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Speaker 1: You do, and you go straight to the phones. Bobby's

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Speaker 1: been on hold. Bobby, thanks for holding.

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Speaker 10: Welcome to the program, Happy Thursday, my brother. Right at

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Speaker 10: you sites, flags, family and farms, you keep those. You're

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Speaker 10: all always have your freedom.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think the latter's becoming more and more

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Speaker 1: appropriate to think about. But yeah, go ahead, Bobby. What's

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Speaker 1: you going today?

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Speaker 10: Well, I'm discussed about the pollutants and everything that we're

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Speaker 10: trying to get rid of. Your socialist Democrats and your

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Speaker 10: biggest pollutants that you ever had. They polluted society, they

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Speaker 10: polluted the mindset of people around you. This shutdown that

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Speaker 10: we have, I hope it goes another sixty days. That way,

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Speaker 10: at the end of the year, all these subsidies and

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Speaker 10: everything will go by the wayside. It'll be cold and

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Speaker 10: wet outside, and these left wing Marxists aren't going to

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Speaker 10: get on the street and protest when it's raining and cold.

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Speaker 1: Well, there you go. That may be they are only

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Speaker 1: source of revenue since these are funded by multi billionaire

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Speaker 1: entities out in the world. They get paid to show

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Speaker 1: up and protest. Bobby, maybe there'll be more of them

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Speaker 1: since they're not getting their snap benefits or something. I

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Speaker 1: don't know.

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Speaker 10: They're worried about these subsidies and everything. They'll expire after

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Speaker 10: the first of the year. Hang on there, they can't

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Speaker 10: wait another sixty days.

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Speaker 1: Well, no, they are going to add Yeah, the legislation

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Speaker 1: itself said the subsidies for Obamacare expire at the end

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Speaker 1: of the year. Who's responsible for the termination of that.

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Speaker 1: The Democrats. It was their bill, they passed it, they

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Speaker 1: put it in there. So the subsidies end. Thanks to

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Speaker 1: the Democrats. Period, end of story. Whether the government's open

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Speaker 1: or shut down, they end as a matter of law.

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Speaker 1: So wait for it.

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Speaker 10: And and I tell you something else. Support your police

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Speaker 10: chiefs down there that they went ahead and did what

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Speaker 10: they did too. Yeah, you got to look at what

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Speaker 10: they've done for the poor lady and the everything she

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Speaker 10: supported her life and everything support this city to protect

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Speaker 10: and serve. I don't care about DEI dea and all

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Speaker 10: the other letters you want to do in this scrabble set.

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Speaker 10: It doesn't matter. These people, these socialist democrats, will go

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Speaker 10: ahead and cut off anybody's head to go ahead and

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Speaker 10: prove their points.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're the ones that are the problem. That's a

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Speaker 1: boxer from Animal Farm. If you're not familiar with the character,

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Speaker 1: read the book. Do you some good. Appreciate the call,

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Speaker 1: Bobby as always, thanks brother. Yeah, and you know, let's

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Speaker 1: say we want to have a police chief three Sthigia.

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Speaker 1: I think she was doing what she was told to do,

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Speaker 1: you know, not. I think was jay Or in the

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Speaker 1: program I'm talking about her, you know, posting woke things

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Speaker 1: and you know, embracing d or whatever that's her boss.

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Speaker 1: I think she was doing what her boss told her

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Speaker 1: to do, right, or wrong. I mean if you I

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Speaker 1: personally wouldn't say I've said it before. Like if I

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Speaker 1: was told I had to say something specifically on the program.

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Speaker 1: My boss came and said, you must speak about this

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Speaker 1: political topic, or you must characterize this political topic in

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Speaker 1: a certain way. You must have this conclusion, I'd quit.

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Speaker 1: Some people need their job. They're willing to sacrifice maybe

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Speaker 1: their belief systems, their thirty five years in law enforcement,

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Speaker 1: and their knowledge of best practices in favor of doing

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Speaker 1: what their bosses tell them to do. And ultimately, I

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Speaker 1: think that's probably what's going to come out of all this.

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Speaker 1: This idea of investigating Thiji with this law firmed look

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Speaker 1: into her years as police chief to find out if

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Speaker 1: there's anything at all that she's done that might serve

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Speaker 1: to justify they're already executed decision to put her on

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Speaker 1: administrative leave. What was the predicate for that? Does anybody

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Speaker 1: know yet? Nope, we don't know. They don't have anything,

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Speaker 1: and they would have told you. I think, ultimately what's

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Speaker 1: going to happen The investigation revealed that she was doing

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Speaker 1: what she was told to do, perhaps even over her

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Speaker 1: own objections. Fifty five come up with five fifty six

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Speaker 1: fifty five krc DE talk station plenty more coming up

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Speaker 1: with the six.

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Speaker 2: Corps on the iHeartRadio WAPP.

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Speaker 8: I like that.

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Speaker 12: I can just download it and listen right away.

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Speaker 2: Fifty five krs the talk station.

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Speaker 1: Six h six to fifty five KRSC the talk station

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Speaker 1: Brian Thomas inviting phone calls. Interesting conversation gone in the

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Speaker 1: last hour, so much so, conversation continued all the way

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Speaker 1: through the stack of stupid five one, three, seven, fifty eight,

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Speaker 1: t film. You can extend that conversation, We'll do so

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Speaker 1: in just a moment. Here we'll remind you. Coming up

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Speaker 1: in an hour, Congressman Warren Davidson returns. Will the shutdown ever?

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Speaker 1: And maybe it won't? What does that mean? We'll get

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Speaker 1: to that here. Well, the GOP senators blink and give in.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to Congressman Davidson about that. Coming up in

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Speaker 1: an hour, followed by the Empire Youth Seminar Deanna Binki.

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Speaker 1: It's I believe I'm pronouncing that wreck. Apologies, Yankee. Well,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna hear from her doing a seminar about the

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Speaker 1: history of World War II. Propaganda poster should be a

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Speaker 1: real interesting and enlightening seminar that'll take place at seven

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Speaker 1: thirty the initial discussion and Andre Ewing brother Dre thirty

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Speaker 1: years a story, law enforcement career, outspoken critic of the

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Speaker 1: City of Cincinnati, advocate for maybe going in a different direction,

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Speaker 1: like voting for Corey Bowman elections going on right now.

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Speaker 1: You can go ahead and vote and please steer the

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Speaker 1: city of the Cincinnati in a different path.

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Speaker 2: Question.

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Speaker 1: I just got a text earlier in the morning from

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Speaker 1: Christopher's smithm and Democrats are the council apparently? And I

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Speaker 1: please explain how one hundercent of the Democratics since a

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Speaker 1: city council and county are complaining about SNAP benefits being

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Speaker 1: close to being cut off November first, there is a

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Speaker 1: cutoff date. And I had to ask him, Are you

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Speaker 1: telling me that members of council are complaining about SNAP

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Speaker 1: coming up? Yes? They are, all right. Have any of

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Speaker 1: them asked for the government to reopen? Any of them

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Speaker 1: pointing at the Democrats are the ones that are keeping

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Speaker 1: the government shut down? No, of course not. It's a

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Speaker 1: legitimate question, Christopher. I appreciate you bringing to my attention. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and I want to pivot over to this because this

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Speaker 1: call ties into what we're talking about. In the last

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Speaker 1: hour they shutdown, okay, And my view of the Republican's

652
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Speaker 1: position on this is they're worried on some laele about

653
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Speaker 1: the anger violence, people taking it to the streets, the

654
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Speaker 1: threats that are already coming out on social media. If

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Speaker 1: you cut off my snap benefits, you know, I'm gonna riot,

656
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna steal, I'm gonna loot, I'm gonna pillage, blah

657
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Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. Okay, all right, And that's of

658
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Speaker 1: course going on with regard to the Trump administration's efforts

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Speaker 1: to remove the most dangerous of illegal immigrants in our country.

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Speaker 1: You see all the ANTIFA protests, people interfering with federal

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Speaker 1: law enforcement. Federal law is being enforced. The laws are

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Speaker 1: on the books, the federal law enforcement officers are there

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Speaker 1: to enforce the law. What do you get, You get

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Speaker 1: a rebellion from a slice of the population. And finally,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad to see the Trump administration in addition to

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Speaker 1: taking very paying very close attention to the organizational structure

667
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Speaker 1: behind Antifah and these other left wing organizations, they are

668
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Speaker 1: very well organized and very funded. They can trace the dollars.

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Speaker 1: You can see the activists all dressed up in their

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Speaker 1: you know, Communist Party issued black garb and with all

671
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Speaker 1: having the same designer mask and the designer tent and everything.

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Speaker 1: It's obviously a funded effort. They all look like they're

673
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Speaker 1: members of the same army, don't they. That's curious. Feds

674
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: just nabbed anti ICE activists in LA not illegal immigrants.

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Speaker 1: Federal authorities just yesterday arrested anti at least one anti

676
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Speaker 1: ICE protester, But they are going after the organizational structure

677
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Speaker 1: of the protesters themselves. There are multiple protest organizations, all

678
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Speaker 1: seem to be coordinated in an effort. This is segue

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Speaker 1: to basically a RICO action, coordinated activity among multiple people

680
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Speaker 1: for the purpose of committing crimes. That is basically right

681
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Speaker 1: there in the RICO wheelhouse. Maybe we'll be able to

682
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Speaker 1: go after these organizations and prosecute them, but ultimately, what

683
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Speaker 1: are these organizations after? And that's why I get a

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Speaker 1: turn to the words of Larry Clayman. You may have

685
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Speaker 1: heard of him. He is the founder of Judicial Watch

686
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Speaker 1: as well as Freedom Watch. He's an attorney and outspoken attorney.

687
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Speaker 1: He's been behind a lot of lawsuits in the past,

688
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Speaker 1: most notably against the Clinton administration. And he's been labeled

689
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Speaker 1: a conspiracy theorists and a racist, and of course all

690
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: the labels that are easily apply to literally anyone who's

691
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Speaker 1: on the other side of the left wing cause. But

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Speaker 1: here's what he had to say. And this concerns me

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Speaker 1: because I think he's right. So President Trump has been

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Speaker 1: incredibly successful in what he's done. He's not just shutting

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Speaker 1: down the border or negotiating peace treaties, and not to

696
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Speaker 1: President Trump yesterday working it out with Jijinping and getting

697
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Speaker 1: some relief perhaps on fentanyl with these tariffs. Anyway, it's

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Speaker 1: the record stock market and the economy is generally doing

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Speaker 1: very well. That inflation is coming down because of that success,

700
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Speaker 1: he says. Even Bill Maher says Trump has been successful.

701
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Speaker 1: The Democrats are panicking. And here's where he gets to

702
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Speaker 1: the point. They realize the only thing they can do

703
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Speaker 1: is foment revolution. They realize, as Karl Marx realized and

704
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Speaker 1: Salolensky realized, that the way you take control of society

705
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Speaker 1: is to destabilize it. You destabilize it by destroying Judeo

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Speaker 1: Christian values, you destabilize it by creating civil unrest and revolution.

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Speaker 1: And he mentioned info Wars, and you know, I got

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Speaker 1: a huge jaundiceiah skepticism over info wars. Conceptually speaking. I

709
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Speaker 1: know they foment conspiracy theories all the time. They've been

710
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Speaker 1: called out as being wrong variety of times, but they're

711
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: not always wrong. And he mentions this report from info wars,

712
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Speaker 1: and it'll pivot over to it. The Democratic Party is

713
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Speaker 1: officially bragging that they are going to use the EBT

714
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Speaker 1: snap Benefit shutdown to trigger mass looting and civil unrest

715
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Speaker 1: in the hope of igniting a civil war. Now that

716
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Speaker 1: sounds a little bold in its pronouncement. Is this really

717
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Speaker 1: that coordinating? Is this ultimately what they are really shooting for?

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Speaker 1: And so back to Claiman in response to that reporting

719
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Speaker 1: from info Wars, he said what was published in info

720
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Speaker 1: wars was not way out. It's absolutely correct, and that

721
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Speaker 1: is exactly what they are going to do. It will

722
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Speaker 1: be food riots and everything else. We've seen two assassination

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Speaker 1: attempts on President Trump. We've seen a bounty on the

724
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Speaker 1: head of Pam Bondi, We've seen the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

725
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Speaker 1: We've seen leaders in Chicago, and the governor of Illinois,

726
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Speaker 1: the mayor of Boston, Massachusetts, and all around the country

727
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Speaker 1: Portland and Seattle, all calling for violence. And here's the

728
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Speaker 1: concerning part that he comes to a conclusion over we

729
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Speaker 1: are in a situation where President Trump would be correct

730
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Speaker 1: in using the Insurrection Act of eighteen oh seven and

731
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Speaker 1: declaring martial law. I believe he's about ready to do it.

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Speaker 1: Then he goes on and talks to the number of

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Speaker 1: times martial law has been declared and that you know,

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Speaker 1: will be valid and justifiable in this situation, And that

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Speaker 1: really really concerns me. If the government stays shut down

736
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Speaker 1: and these food riots from a start, and the streets

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Speaker 1: and there is more protesting, more anti people gathering together,

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Speaker 1: more reasons to be angry at the government, more people

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Speaker 1: coming out of the streets, it would provide a justification

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Speaker 1: for martial law. And I think that's what they want.

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Speaker 1: And it always worried me to a certain extent about

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Speaker 1: Trump sending in federal authorities into these various cities under

743
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Speaker 1: the pretext of enforcing federal law, again, which is justifiable

744
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Speaker 1: and a valid use of federal resources and law enforcement

745
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Speaker 1: resources because it's federal property and local law enforcement isn't

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Speaker 1: enforcing state law to protect that property, or the federal

747
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Speaker 1: officers who are endeavoring to enforce federal law. But the

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Speaker 1: presence of them there gives these left winging nut jobs

749
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Speaker 1: an excuse to scream about, Yeah, oh my god, martial law.

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Speaker 1: Look at Donald Trump taking over our cities with the

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Speaker 1: federal with with with the army. Ah see, you get

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Speaker 1: used to the concept of them being there, and then

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Speaker 1: when martial law is actually declared, boy, won't hit the fan.

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Speaker 1: And social and civil libertarians like myself who believe in

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Speaker 1: freedom and liberty, you know, come to the cause and say,

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Speaker 1: you know what, martial laws being declared. They suspended habeas corpus,

757
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Speaker 1: giving the federal government the right to lock people up

758
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Speaker 1: are something Judge Enteredopolitana talked about just yesterday with regard

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Speaker 1: to someone's free speech ends up landing in jail over

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Speaker 1: a comment, a random comment that was taken completely out

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Speaker 1: of context by law enforcement. Hey, you're not gonna get

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Speaker 1: your day in court martial laws declared. That's kind of

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Speaker 1: frightening stuff. So we have in an unstable situation, clearly,

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Speaker 1: but I do believe there's that legitimate concern looming in

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Speaker 1: the background over the shutdown, that something like this may

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Speaker 1: very well come about, and it's worth making a note,

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Speaker 1: which is the only reason I bring it up. Now,

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Speaker 1: Do I believe we're right there? I don't want to.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to, But there's such powerful forces and

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Speaker 1: money interest globally lining up to seemingly desire exactly that,

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Speaker 1: and it's a scary circumstance we find ourselves in six fifty,

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Speaker 1: Mississippi James. If you don't mind holding for a moment,

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Speaker 1: I'll be happy to take your station six twenty fifty

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Speaker 1: five KERCIT talk station Happy Thursday five one three, seven,

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Speaker 1: four nine fifty five hundred, eight hundred eight two three

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Speaker 1: tall pound FI fifty on AT and T phones, Mississippi James.

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Speaker 1: Good to hear from you, my friend. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the show.

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Speaker 7: All right, man, I come in peace, love everybody, and

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Speaker 7: there's nothing you can do about it. Hey, I've been

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Speaker 7: sitting here taking my notes, and I jotted down three

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Speaker 7: things and I try to get through them real quick, yep.

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Speaker 7: And the first it's being the police chief now aftab

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Speaker 7: what he's investigating her HIRET This firm or whatever they're doing.

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Speaker 7: That was a stalling tactic. Yes, you know, to get

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Speaker 7: past the election. I think we most of.

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Speaker 1: Us know that.

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Speaker 7: Yes, because if he's stay in his mayor, he can

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Speaker 7: shape it anyway he wants to. If he loses mayor,

790
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Speaker 7: is not his problem anymore. Go to the next person

791
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Speaker 7: what they do with their chief.

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Speaker 1: All right, clearly, yes, you're right that on Mississippi, James.

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Speaker 7: And another thing what will deep into right now is classicism.

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Speaker 7: You know, sometime we bounce into racism, socialism, and classism.

795
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Speaker 7: So what we got most people looking at social welfare

796
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Speaker 7: and blue collar crime, they do exist, but nobody's paying

797
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Speaker 7: attention to corporate welfare and white collar crime, and they

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Speaker 7: running them up. A white collar crime and the cour

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Speaker 7: corporate way of fare well.

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Speaker 1: I will acknowledge corporate welfare in the form of the

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Speaker 1: United States tax code. There's all kinds of provisions built

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Speaker 1: in there to help the extraordinarily wealthy corporate folks, uh

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Speaker 1: with carve outs and exclusions and right off, etc. So

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Speaker 1: it's built that way. I agree with that all day long.

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Speaker 1: We facilitated via the tax code, but specifically in so

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Speaker 1: far as corporate crime is concerned, do you have a

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Speaker 1: specific illustration or example you want to cite for my listeners,

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Speaker 1: Because I agree there is a thing on a corporate

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Speaker 1: level that is criminal, but I don't know that it's

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Speaker 1: necessarily rampant right now, and I don't necessarily believe that

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Speaker 1: the powers that be, the US Justice Department is not

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Speaker 1: looking into it.

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Speaker 7: But what do you think, James, Well, it's not on

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Speaker 7: most people radar to common work in person radar right now.

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Speaker 7: Right the you know, the Defense Department and everybody else

816
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Speaker 7: may be looking into it. But we're talking about the

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Speaker 7: thing is stick right now. You know the lint they say, yeah,

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Speaker 7: what you call it like a splinter in your finger.

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Speaker 7: That's the stuff that's happening right now. And that's the

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Speaker 7: social welfare and the blue collar crimes. They're important, but

821
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Speaker 7: they're taking over. For instance, Okay, I did a little

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Speaker 7: research and back from the eighties, corporation paid to the

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Speaker 7: average working person was thirty dollars to one. That was

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Speaker 7: a good balance. The last survey they did of twenty

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Speaker 7: four it's up to three hundred to one. That's a

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Speaker 7: big gap. Of CEOs are getting big gap to change

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Speaker 7: to get up there. Now we know any time the

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Speaker 7: government guarantees something an insurance, the price triple a quadriple. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: there's no reason for it. Bay, the government paid for it.

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Speaker 7: Why not get the most we can get out.

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Speaker 1: Of you remove market forces from the equation. Yes, you

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Speaker 1: have a total The word I want to use is

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Speaker 1: not FCC complyiant. But it definitely definitely mixes or up

834
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Speaker 1: causes problems with with with rationality. You know, market forces

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Speaker 1: will force you know, the price controls and structure. It's

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Speaker 1: just a practical reality. Government steps in and says you

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Speaker 1: must pay. This is like rent control. You know, you

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Speaker 1: cannot charge more than this than rent. The whole system

839
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Speaker 1: gets thrown out of whack.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and then we go through trying to get it

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Speaker 7: back in whack. But like I say, right now, yeah,

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Speaker 7: we're going into uh well deep into classes you know, and.

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Speaker 1: Why they haven't have not I you know, there is

844
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Speaker 1: no way to change that. You know, the poor you

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Speaker 1: will always have among you believe with Jesus who said

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Speaker 1: something along those lines. There is always going to be inequity.

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Speaker 1: There's always going to be differences in people's abilities. It

848
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Speaker 1: is built into our DNA. Some people are cognitively impaired.

849
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Speaker 1: Maybe we should help them out if you're not cognitively impaired.

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Speaker 1: I think there's an expectation from a lot of people

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Speaker 1: that you should at least try to fend for yourself

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Speaker 1: and put in a hard day's work for pay. You know,

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Speaker 1: those who can contribute should contribute. I mean, we've gotten

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Speaker 1: to this ridiculous reality that, oh my god, that person

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Speaker 1: makes more. That's not fair, And I just call absolute

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Speaker 1: foul on that. No, it is fair for whatever reason

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Speaker 1: they were able to accomplish more. And you shouldn't walk

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Speaker 1: it around being greedy and covetous and envious over it

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Speaker 1: and create a social structure that's based on redistributing somebody

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Speaker 1: else's large ass. You know, be happy for other people

861
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Speaker 1: who've done well because of them, the whole society works. Look,

862
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 1: they're buying stuff, you know, every time there's rich people

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Speaker 1: go out and buy something. They're supporting somebody else's job.

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Speaker 1: You know, I just don't understand how this concept can

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Speaker 1: take hold, and it's all built on envy. It seems

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Speaker 1: to me that it's all this socialism and communism is

867
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Speaker 1: built on envy and the only people will ultimately benefit

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Speaker 1: of it. Know, the people who are stirring the pot

869
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Speaker 1: of envy and telling you that it's okay for you

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Speaker 1: to take somebody else's labor via a government program or

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Speaker 1: directly through the taxation system or whatever. It's not fair.

872
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Speaker 1: The rich aren't paying their fair share. Have you ever

873
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Speaker 1: been told what is fair? No, it's a constantly moving target.

874
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Speaker 1: You know, it's fair that you're born and you get

875
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Speaker 1: the freedom and liberty to self control the direction of

876
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Speaker 1: your life. That's the beautiful thing about America. Nobody else

877
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Speaker 1: has got it. You at least have that option here.

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Speaker 1: And also remember, and so far as this shutdown is concerned,

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Speaker 1: and the idea that we might have snap benefits, riots

880
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Speaker 1: or something in the street, the government that feeds you

881
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Speaker 1: can also starve you. Wrap your head around that. Six

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Speaker 1: Interesting comment from my wife before I jump over to

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Speaker 1: up with my twentieth year in radio every morning since

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Speaker 1: Start to show off with Adama the song by Tool

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Speaker 1: and I always tell people I can't say the words

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Speaker 1: although it's just fill with fec non compliant words, they

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Speaker 1: make a great point. My wife chimed in on that

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Speaker 1: this morning. Thank you Paulte. You put a smile on

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Speaker 1: my face. People need to learn to swim. Learn to swim,

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Speaker 1: Learn to swim, Learn to swim. Corey, welcome to the

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Speaker 1: morning show. Thanks for calling this morning, and a happy

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Speaker 1: Thursday to you, sir.

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Speaker 4: Happy Thursday. Ryan hundred right to learn swim because moms

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Speaker 4: want to flush all the ways you know. Oh yeah, anyway,

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Speaker 4: I know. I called them years ago when talked about

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Speaker 4: civil war. Then I think it's inevitable, and I think

906
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Speaker 4: that's the ultimate game plan that they want. They want

907
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Speaker 4: a civil war to over three United States. Is the

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Speaker 4: last Democrats, Liberals. They absolutely despise the United States. They

909
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Speaker 4: hate us, to hate me, to hate you for the

910
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Speaker 4: god we worship, for the type of car we drive,

911
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Speaker 4: for the wanting to own a certain type of gun,

912
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Speaker 4: to hate us for all that and they want us

913
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Speaker 4: to It is us versus them type thing, and unfortunately,

914
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Speaker 4: I think a lot of the rhinos are right in

915
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Speaker 4: the step with them. For is this example, about three

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Speaker 4: weeks ago now, there's a bill introduced in Columbus to

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Speaker 4: allow members of Congress in Ohio to be able to

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Speaker 4: steal carry in federal buildings and all government buildings for

919
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Speaker 4: their safety, but not ours. We're not allowed that right.

920
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Speaker 4: It's for me not the type thing. And that's how

921
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Speaker 4: most of the government operates. They every law that hurts somebody,

922
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Speaker 4: they have their own carve out where they're exempt from it.

923
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Speaker 4: Like the sporting events talk about being able to protect

924
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Speaker 4: yourself at Cincinnati for a Bengals game where crimes run

925
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Speaker 4: a rampant, you are disarmed if you want to go

926
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Speaker 4: to a Bengals game. But if you're a retired cop

927
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Speaker 4: or loft duty cop, you're allowed to carry there. But

928
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Speaker 4: why can't I carry there even though it is a

929
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Speaker 4: taxpayer funded stadium, which should fall under nine six eight,

930
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Speaker 4: which logan lincipalities aren't allowed to enact their own gun

931
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Speaker 4: control law, but yet they still do it. But they

932
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Speaker 4: always have the carve outs for themselves, but not us,

933
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Speaker 4: and I think it's all done on purpose the whole city.

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Speaker 4: So I agree, learn this win as it's all coming

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Speaker 4: crashing down well.

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Speaker 1: And gues this is my point about the socialist revolution.

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Speaker 1: And they keep screaming about, you know, wealth redistribution, whatever

938
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Speaker 1: motivates them to get out of the streets and want

939
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Speaker 1: to tear down the inherently evil, born of original sin,

940
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Speaker 1: racist government of the United States of America. Blah blah

941
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Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Fine, what are you going to replace

942
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Speaker 1: it with? Where do you think all of this money

943
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Speaker 1: comes from that runs the globe? The reason Donald Trump

944
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Speaker 1: has leveraged with any given countries because we are so

945
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Speaker 1: overwhelmingly economically powerful, we basically motivate and run the planet,

946
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Speaker 1: you know. I mean, it's that profound difference between the

947
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Speaker 1: United States wealth and the rest of the world. So

948
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Speaker 1: they'll use that as an argument to sort of level

949
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Speaker 1: things out. What I say is by leveling them out,

950
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Speaker 1: you are basically taking away that government meal out of

951
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Speaker 1: your mouth. That everybody that depends on government is depending

952
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Speaker 1: upon people who are willing to go out and work,

953
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: from whom they take taxes and revenue obviously not enough

954
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Speaker 1: to fund the whole thing given thirty eight trillion dollars

955
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Speaker 1: in the hole we've printed ourselves into. But without motivating

956
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Speaker 1: people to work, your whole system of your your theory collapses.

957
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Speaker 1: Jamo Ron's I mean, God Almighty, this is what happens

958
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Speaker 1: every single time this exercise has been tried in the

959
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Speaker 1: course of humanity. Socialism brings laziness. You people out there

960
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Speaker 1: that believe that this this whole wealthy distribution thing is

961
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: you're angry or envious or whatever's motivating you, look a

962
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: step forward after you bring about that reality. Do you

963
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Speaker 1: think that I or anybody legitimately is gonna bust their

964
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Speaker 1: hump working? No? Why would you if you're not gonna

965
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Speaker 1: get at the benefit of that extra effort that you

966
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Speaker 1: engage in, which from a meritocracy standpoint, makes you stand

967
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Speaker 1: out compared to your peers. Why did that guy get

968
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: a raise? Why did that guy get get promoted? Because

969
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Speaker 1: he was the guy busting his hump. He was the

970
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Speaker 1: one burning them in not oil. He was the one

971
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 1: that come up with the new researches and theories and

972
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: ideas and inventions and things that make humanity better or

973
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: at least products and services that people have a demand

974
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Speaker 1: for because it's going to make their lives easier, or

975
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Speaker 1: they figure it's worth spending money on whatever product or

976
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: servant is that that smart guy, the guy that busted

977
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Speaker 1: his hump created why did he bother creating it because

978
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Speaker 1: he knew it was going to le newer to his

979
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: benefit or hers the case. Maybe that's what makes society work,

980
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 1: the benefit you get from your extra labor, or if

981
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Speaker 1: you choose not to engage in labor, you choose not

982
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: to engage in educating yourself, you choose to sit around

983
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: on the couch and contemplate your navel all day. I

984
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: know what's going to happen. You're gonna get left behind

985
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be angry and envious at some point

986
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 1: that you know you looked at your you looking back

987
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 1: at your life. How did all you ender this place?

988
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: It must be because the society is racist or evil

989
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 1: or whatever. That rich person stole it all from me here.

990
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 1: Why is he deserving of that stuff? And well, I

991
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Speaker 1: think I know the answer to that. Just look one

992
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: step beyond and you will see that it won't work.

993
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 1: It can't work. I wouldn't go to work in a

994
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Speaker 1: society that's built on that from each accordion's ability, each

995
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 1: according to his need. Guess what I no longer have ability? Period?

996
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Speaker 1: End of story.

997
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Speaker 2: I quit.

998
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna contemplate my navel. Please feed me six point

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Speaker 1: Did I hear that right? Yeah? Russ Neville on yesterday

1003
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Speaker 1: retired Captain Neville most of thirty four years of service

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Speaker 1: to sincint Police Department, defending his sister in police chief

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Speaker 1: threes a thiji. Uh. Let's go to theose. Who ad

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Speaker 1: Vicky's got this morning? VICKI, thanks so much for calling.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 14: Hi, Brian, Hey, got to break it down. You're doing great,

1009
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 14: but you got to break down a little bit more

1010
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 14: so some people can feel it better. Money explain something

1011
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 14: to people that operate off the motion instead of logic

1012
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 14: and reason. You have to break it down to what

1013
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 14: they can feel. Okay, So, if you don't have professional people,

1014
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 14: if you don't have people that don't how to do HVAC,

1015
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 14: if you don't have or repair clean water to operate,

1016
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Speaker 14: the water treatment plants, the sewage treatment plants, the electrical grid,

1017
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 14: the cyber grids, all these things that make a country

1018
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 14: work and operate and produce. Manufacturing things like this that

1019
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 14: have some skills, whether the brick layers which are great,

1020
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 14: or contractors great, all these plumbing. If you don't have

1021
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 14: professionals or electricians, If you don't have professionals that know

1022
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 14: how to do these things, you're going to feel it.

1023
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 14: You're not going to have warm house or a warm apartment.

1024
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 14: You're not going to have you're not gonna have clean water,

1025
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 14: You're not going to have sewage removal, You're not water treatment.

1026
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 14: Is going to be messed up. Everything is going to

1027
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 14: be screwed up and messed up. Everything's going to be

1028
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 14: a mess if if you don't have people that are

1029
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 14: willing to actually work socialism. I am afraid this time.

1030
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 14: Because they got thirty to fifty million extra people here.

1031
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 14: The burden is now is breaking the backs of the

1032
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 14: people that are paying the system because we don't know

1033
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 14: the other ones are not necessarily paying into the system.

1034
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 14: Because we don't even know how many people are here,

1035
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Speaker 14: then we don't have records of it, we don't have

1036
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Speaker 14: maybe legit records, well they could be fake. ID we

1037
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 14: have no clue what all the Biden administration did. So

1038
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 14: here you go, and it's what they're trying to overwhelm,

1039
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 14: the system and coward, but coward live into.

1040
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Speaker 11: Right.

1041
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the over I mean the system leads about

1042
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 1: to the exactly what I was talking about, what you're

1043
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: elaborating on, which is the collapse of the working society

1044
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: leading to misery and pain for literally everyone. That's the

1045
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: next step, that's the one they don't think about while

1046
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: they're running around screaming about how unfair it is that

1047
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: you have more than me.

1048
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Speaker 14: You know that this is not right. Get off your

1049
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 14: you know, but and try to contribute a little bit,

1050
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 14: doing something something and have some pride in yourself. Used

1051
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 14: to be used to be you didn't have if if

1052
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 14: if if a man didn't work and his wife had

1053
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Speaker 14: to work, for instance, I'm just going back away and

1054
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Speaker 14: before I know there you're talking about Yeah if used

1055
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Speaker 14: to your dad's here. It used to be that that

1056
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 14: was a shame and a sin. Now now it's not.

1057
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Speaker 14: It's like I don't care and you know, just let

1058
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Speaker 14: your family go.

1059
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Speaker 1: Well, that's because the left has breaks down. The Left

1060
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Speaker 1: has exclude sloth and lethargy by saying it's not your

1061
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: fault you are lazy and lethargic, it's the fault of society.

1062
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: You've been dealt a bad hand. It's baked into the cake.

1063
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: You are not going to be able to be successful

1064
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 1: in this world. And there are so many people that

1065
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: have been brought up in an environment where they are

1066
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: told that over and over again as a young person,

1067
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Speaker 1: that it's a pointless exercise to engage. You're merely enabling

1068
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: the whatever system and you're perpetuating this unfairness, So don't bother.

1069
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: It's not worth your effort. And that creates a dependent,

1070
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: that creates an ignorant dependent on society who feels free

1071
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Speaker 1: to be lazy and lethargic and not do anything because

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Speaker 1: he's been told that it's aoka because all you're doing

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Speaker 1: is fighting the man. Six forty six, Mike, hang on

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Speaker 1: your next fifty five KRC the talk station. This is

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Speaker 1: that Low's cam from Cross Company the talk station. It

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Speaker 1: is six point fifty coming up in six fifty one

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Speaker 1: to fifty five KRC detalk station. Very happy, try to

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Speaker 1: make it a happy Thursday. Anyway, go to the phones.

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Speaker 1: I've got Michael, Mike, thanks so much for holding over

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Speaker 1: the break. Welcome to the show, Hi.

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Speaker 13: Brian, Real quick about the shutdown, the highlight on YouTube

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Speaker 13: of their David It's actually it was CNN was asking

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Speaker 13: the Democrats that some senator they had on why is

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Speaker 13: it when the Republican at this time, when the Republicans

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Speaker 13: are trying to pass the clean cr and they have

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Speaker 13: to control of the House and Senate, the dinnant the

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Speaker 13: Democrats don't want to pass it, it's the Republicans fault.

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Speaker 13: But when it's the other way around, when Biden and

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Speaker 13: Obama was an office and they had control of it,

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Speaker 13: it was the Republican's fault because they didn't want to

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Speaker 13: vote for it, right, And this was CNN saying this,

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Speaker 13: oh yeah, yeah, and they're turning against them.

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Speaker 1: Well, and you know, Mike, I think up until recent

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Speaker 1: a recent moment in time ago in history, they could

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Speaker 1: get away with that argument. First off, mostly because the

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Speaker 1: American people are politically ignorant and refuse to pay attention

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Speaker 1: to the minutia of politics. They just listened to the

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Speaker 1: SoundBite Republicans responsible for shut down, and that's all they'll digest.

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Speaker 1: And so if you have a mainstream media and nobody

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Speaker 1: can deny this. This is not a conspiracy theory. It's

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Speaker 1: just plain old reality that the vast majority of the

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Speaker 1: mainstream traditional media outlets, legacy media they called these days,

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Speaker 1: are in bed with the left. So all your college

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Speaker 1: educated journalists come out with their left wing ideology and

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Speaker 1: they go work for CNN and then they parrot this

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Speaker 1: nonsense and blame Republicans literally for everything. And this is

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Speaker 1: the narrative that creeps out. So even the most ill

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Speaker 1: informed politically people are going to get some messaging out there.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna come in the form of a meme, or

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Speaker 1: it's gonna come in the form of this repeated background

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Speaker 1: news flash that coming up at eleven, you know, Republicans

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Speaker 1: responsible for shutdown. That's all they get. They'll tune into

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Speaker 1: the news program to find out, even though it'll be

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Speaker 1: biased reporting along those lines, but it's just that's what

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Speaker 1: they hear. That's not the case anymore. We're not consuming

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Speaker 1: that crap as much anymore. To a substantially lesser degree.

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Speaker 1: You can go on to multitude of sites and see

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Speaker 1: a multitude of perspective, and you know, if you're willing

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Speaker 1: to pay attention, and sadly not enough people are. But

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Speaker 1: if you're willing to pay attention, you see exactly what

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Speaker 1: you just said, how as it could possibly be when

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Speaker 1: the Democrats are asking for a cr that's clean and

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Speaker 1: the Republicans say no, that it's the Republican's fault, and

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Speaker 1: the exact polar opposite is happening right now, but it's

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Speaker 1: still the Republican's fault. That's a legitimate point to make.

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Speaker 1: But you've got to know your history about shutdowns to

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Speaker 1: even understand that. And who among us has bothered to

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Speaker 1: take the time to look at the history of shutdowns?

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Speaker 1: Who even remembers the last one? Yeah, I know you

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Speaker 1: might remember conceptually that it happened, and it keeps coming

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Speaker 1: up with the news that, oh, this is the coming

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Speaker 1: up on the longest shutdown ever in American history. But

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Speaker 1: are you scarred? Are you still feeling the pain and

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Speaker 1: bruises from the last one? I'm willing to guess no,

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Speaker 1: that none of our lives were perpetually impacted by a

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Speaker 1: temporary pause in the government doing its well at least

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Speaker 1: unnecessary business. Hot another collar this morning. My wife keeps

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Speaker 1: chiming in on it. Thank you, honey, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I am on a bit of a

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Speaker 1: tear this morning. I don't know. I'm just frustrated to

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Speaker 1: a certain degree. But the last one Color had mentioned

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Speaker 1: the trades and how important they are, and I thought

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Speaker 1: of that she was talking about this. It is yet

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Speaker 1: one more article about the tens of thousands of white

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Speaker 1: collar jobs that are disappearing because of yes, artificial intelligence.

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Speaker 1: Amazon fourteen thousand corporate jobs cut ups cutting. They announced

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Speaker 1: earlier this week they're reducing their workforce by about fourteen

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Speaker 1: thousand positions. Again, these are not the folks delivering your packages,

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Speaker 1: something that AI cannot replace. These are corporate jobs. Target

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Speaker 1: eighteen hundred corporate jobs. Rivian had cut a whole bunch

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Speaker 1: of its workforce as well. On and on it goes

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Speaker 1: because of artificial intelligence. So this is the reality we're

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Speaker 1: having to live with. But if you listen to that

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Speaker 1: caller and you think about jobs that don't artificial intelligence

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Speaker 1: can't create, that's where opportunity lies. That's where even folks

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Speaker 1: that just maybe have a high school education, you can

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Speaker 1: still live, thrive, and survive by pursuing a job that

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Speaker 1: AI cannot replace, and Joe had pointed out while she

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Speaker 1: was talking, there's a South Park episode on that. Yes,

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Speaker 1: there is, magically as if overnight. The wealthiest people in

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Speaker 1: society are your plumbers, your repair people, the folks who

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Speaker 1: know how to replace the or fix the oven door

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Speaker 1: that will not stay shut Congressman Warren Davison after the

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Speaker 1: top of the air news, Well, this shutdown ever, and

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Speaker 1: we'll find out from Congressman davids can at least get

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Speaker 1: his opinion on that. Plus Soto six here a pet

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Speaker 1: you about krs DE talk station after Friday. Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: Always a distinct pleasure to invite Congressman Warren Davidson on

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Speaker 1: the program. I appreciate your willingness to accept that imitation.

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Speaker 1: Congressman Warren Davidson, Welcome back.

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Speaker 6: Always an honor.

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Speaker 1: Nice to talk with you. Brian. All right, so we're

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Speaker 1: still shut down. I know everybody knows that. Can I

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Speaker 1: characterize it this way? Now? The Senate Republicans have voted

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Speaker 1: thirteen times to fund snap. Democrats have voted thirteen times

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Speaker 1: to not fund a snap. Is that a fair way

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Speaker 1: of characterizing the current situation? Congressman Davidson, Yeah, that's have

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Speaker 1: been called and recorded.

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Speaker 6: That's that's the lay of.

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Speaker 7: The land right now.

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Speaker 1: Now, I guess the big question is this blame game

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Speaker 1: keep swirling around. But I am a little disheartened and

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Speaker 1: a little concerned about these widespread posts on social media

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Speaker 1: that you know, the moment Snap gets cut off, there's

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Speaker 1: going to be riots in the streets, and some people

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Speaker 1: are suggesting that's exactly what the Democrats want. They are

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Speaker 1: literally bringing pain to the American people, and I think

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Speaker 1: it's time for us all to collectively reflect on why

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Speaker 1: that pain can be brought about. In other words, we

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Speaker 1: are dependent overwhelmingly so on government, which is a scary

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Speaker 1: place to be. But this is this is the only

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Speaker 1: conclusion I can reach. They want us to be in

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Speaker 1: pain in return for which we have to give them

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Speaker 1: out one to two point five trillion dollars in additional

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Speaker 1: spending so we can what fun to the foe that

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Speaker 1: the faux reality that Obamacare actually works, and also give

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Speaker 1: a lot of help to illegal immigrants in our country.

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Speaker 1: Congressman Davidson, Yeah, I mean that's the strategy. Catherine Clark

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Speaker 1: and others, she's the majority or minority whip, the Democrat

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Speaker 1: whip so one of the leadership positions in the House

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Speaker 1: exactly what she said. You know, we know there'll be suffering,

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Speaker 1: but that's leverage for us. They're counting on the suffering.

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Speaker 1: They're counting on causing pain to my constituents, our friends

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Speaker 1: and neighbors. And you know the fact that they're suffering.

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Speaker 1: They want Republicans to flench first. And look, the reality

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Speaker 1: is a c R is the epitome of the status quo.

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Speaker 1: That's part of the problem. I mean, Democrats are.

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Speaker 7: Fighting for what they want.

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Speaker 6: They want more government, a lot more, one and a

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Speaker 6: half trillion more. They wrote it all out for us,

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Speaker 6: and Republicans in theory at least want less government. Certainly

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Speaker 6: my part of the party does. And until you're sitting

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Speaker 6: here defending the status quo, which essentially no one wants,

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Speaker 6: everyone knows this doesn't really work, but it is sort

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Speaker 6: of a reminder to go. Even some of the things

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Speaker 6: that we don't necessarily, you know, love the way that

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Speaker 6: it works, like snap food stamps. It is a pretty

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Speaker 6: integral part. I mean, people do want their friends, family,

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Speaker 6: neighbors to be able to have a hand in a

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Speaker 6: time of need. We all know the programs should work better,

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Speaker 6: And part of what Republicans did back in the summer

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Speaker 6: was get back to common sense to say, look, yeah,

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Speaker 6: we've got a safety net there, but at some point,

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Speaker 6: if you're able bodied, work in age, and you don't

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Speaker 6: have dependent kids at home, you need to get a job,

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Speaker 6: or go to school or volunteer somewhere. So all those

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Speaker 6: things are now in place. Democrats are mad about that,

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Speaker 6: and that's part of why they're holding the government hostage.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I think the critical words in that statement

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Speaker 1: not to discount anything you just said, which is all

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Speaker 1: just dead right on as far as I'm concerned. In

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Speaker 1: a time of need, these programs are sold upon the

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Speaker 1: altruistic idea that well, government can be there when you

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Speaker 1: are truly in need, but that need is supposed to

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Speaker 1: be temporary once you get on your feet to the

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Speaker 1: extent you're able to, and so that everybody that is

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Speaker 1: incapable of helping themselves out are working or participating in society,

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Speaker 1: we're going to try to tend to those needs. But

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Speaker 1: that's a very very very small slice of the population.

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Speaker 1: The programs have become perpetual, and forever somebody gets on

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Speaker 1: foodstamps and then just says all right, I continue to

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Speaker 1: get foodstamps doesn't do anything to get out of that

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Speaker 1: time of need. So it is a forever thing. That's

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Speaker 1: not what these programs were set up to do, is it.

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 6: Not, well, it's not what they were sold to do. Now, Democrats,

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Speaker 6: they seem to be yeah, this is as designed. They

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Speaker 6: want it that way, and they also want the country

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Speaker 6: flooded with non citizens, and they want them to be

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Speaker 6: on the same kinds of programs that we were designed

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Speaker 6: for Americans. So not only do we have a problem

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Speaker 6: with Medicaid and healthcare going to illegal so they're fighting

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Speaker 6: to get that back, which we turned off. You've got

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Speaker 6: a significant amount of the food stamp assistants going to

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Speaker 6: non citizens. And you know, these people in a lot

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Speaker 6: of cases aren't even supposed to be here, but you're

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Speaker 6: not going to watch kids starve, so they wind up

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Speaker 6: being on some form of federal assistants. And it just

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Speaker 6: highlights the problem that the Democrats are imposing in the

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Speaker 6: country left and right. You go back when Joe Biden

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Speaker 6: was president, on average, we had nearly two hundred thousand

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Speaker 6: illegals coming into the country every month that Joe Biden

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Speaker 6: was president. This is off the charge. I mean, this

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Speaker 6: was not, you know, unanticipated. They promised to do that,

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Speaker 6: then they did it, and they did it in spite

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Speaker 6: of what the law says. They did in spite of

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Speaker 6: what the consequences are for our safety net, whether it's

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Speaker 6: health care, food, assistance, housing. And that's one of the

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Speaker 6: other ones that wire housing is so expensive. Well, you

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Speaker 6: brought about twenty million illegal people into the country. They're

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Speaker 6: going to have to live somewhere. There are a whole

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Speaker 6: lot of other factors there, but that certainly is one

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Speaker 6: of them.

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Speaker 1: And Trump ran on all of this and one popular vote,

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Speaker 1: the electoral college vote across the board, one of the

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Speaker 1: key issues you ran on is exactly the point you're making.

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Speaker 1: And it seems so odd to me. It's impossible from

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Speaker 1: my perspective, for the Democrats to reconcile the position. Were

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Speaker 1: they not the party of the safety net or are

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Speaker 1: they not the champions of the downtrodden. Didn't they implement

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Speaker 1: these programs in order to salvage and save those folks

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Speaker 1: and provide that measure of assistance in time of need.

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Speaker 1: They're the ones that invited the twenty million or so

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Speaker 1: illegal immigrants into the country, which made these programs, got

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Speaker 1: these programs so overwhelmed that they're they're bringing about this

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Speaker 1: sad reality on the very people they purported to represent.

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Speaker 1: After for years and years and years, a lot of

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Speaker 1: those folks then said, wait a second, I don't like

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Speaker 1: these illegal immigrants taking all the resources from my local governments,

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Speaker 1: all the housing and blah blah blah blah blah. That

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Speaker 1: money should be going to me and my downtrodden neighborhoods.

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Speaker 1: So they've created this situation. It's a mess for them.

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Speaker 1: That's I think their biggest problem. They can't reconcile the

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Speaker 1: two sides of their political agenda whatever they're hoping to accomplish.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, and you look at historically working class

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Speaker 6: voters that you know, direct to the Bill Clinton coalition,

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Speaker 6: those were the people that he targeted. And post Obama,

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Speaker 6: you know that movement is said, look, they're holding my wages.

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Speaker 5: Dad.

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Speaker 6: When you bring all these people in, you're cutting off

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Speaker 6: my opportunities in a lot of ways. And if you

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Speaker 6: look at certain industries like cole they've literally you know,

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Speaker 6: promised that well you know it won't be illegal, but

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Speaker 6: you'll go bankrupt, and you know, all these kinds of

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Speaker 6: things are part of why Ohio flipped.

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Speaker 7: You had people.

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Speaker 6: I remember when Tim Ryan was in the House with me,

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Speaker 6: he challenged Nancy Pelosi to be leader of the Democrats

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Speaker 6: in the House because he's like, you can't keep doing

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Speaker 6: these far left crazy things. And when places like Youngstown,

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Speaker 6: Ohio and lo and behold, Ohio is not really much

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Speaker 6: of a swing state anymore. We've become solid red. And

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Speaker 6: I think in a lot of ways, Ohio ands didn't

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Speaker 6: change their views. The parties did. And Donald Trump has

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Speaker 6: grown his majority of the left has just taken over

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Speaker 6: the Democrat Party and they defend things federally in these

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Speaker 6: votes that truly aren't representative of Democrats, even in our district.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's bipartisan in the eighth district of Ohio

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Speaker 6: to say, you know, men and boys, males shouldn't compete

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Speaker 6: against in sports that were designed to have a women's category.

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Speaker 6: You can't pretend you're a woman and then just go

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Speaker 6: compete or no matter how much surgery or chemicals you

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Speaker 6: put in your body, you're still not a female. And

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Speaker 6: that's part of why we designed them. That's common sense stuff,

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Speaker 6: but and bipartisan here, but not bipartisan when we call

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Speaker 6: the votes. I think eventually they're going.

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Speaker 7: To have to open the government.

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Speaker 6: But in the meantime, I mean, I've laid out a

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Speaker 6: plan for the Speaker and others that you've, of course

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Speaker 6: got the sixty vote rule in the Senate. A lot

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Speaker 6: of people want to blow that up. It would be

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Speaker 6: blown up all the time, though, because the Senate's always

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Speaker 6: got the sixty vote rule. We use reconciliation to pass

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Speaker 6: appropriations back in the summer, and that also allows a

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Speaker 6: simple majority in the Senate. And that really only works

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Speaker 6: if you've got the White House, the House, and the Senate.

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Speaker 6: So I think that's a better way. I just do

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Speaker 6: reconciliation and deem everything we consider essential as Republicans, and

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Speaker 6: you can you can pass it on reconciliation with a

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Speaker 6: simple majority. That would take a little bit of effort,

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Speaker 6: but if the Democrats aren't going to move, we could

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Speaker 6: get on with funding our agenda instead of just defending

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Speaker 6: the status quo with this stupid cer.

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Speaker 1: Well, and you have to be called in from recess

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Speaker 1: to do that. That hasn't yet happened, has it, Congressman Davidson.

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Speaker 6: No, I mean we're having meetings. Unfortunately, some of the

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Speaker 6: meetings that some of our folks are having is the

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Speaker 6: surrender Caucus is forming. This is this is where this

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Speaker 6: is where Speaker Johnson is like, now just stay out

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Speaker 6: of DC because you'll all start trying to, you know,

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Speaker 6: do deals with Democrats to do things that you know

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Speaker 6: undermine the position. And you know, I think we've got

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01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 6: a very clear position. There are some Republicans that apparently

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Speaker 6: for the first time ever, want to work with Democrats

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Speaker 6: on Obamacare. How do we make Obamacare better? And you know,

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Speaker 6: Obamacare was designed to cause problems from this healthcare system,

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Speaker 6: so you make it better by getting rid of it.

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Speaker 6: It doesn't work.

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Speaker 11: They know that.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's working the way they designed it to, which

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Speaker 6: is to keep sucking more cash until you effectively have

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Speaker 6: single payer. But it doesn't work to make health care affordable.

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Speaker 6: It's working to implement single payer. So they're bridging it

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Speaker 6: with these are COVID subsidies that overwhelmingly just go straight

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Speaker 6: to the health insurance company, essentially as a bribe to say, hey,

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Speaker 6: if we give you this straight pipe of cash, we

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Speaker 6: hold down premiums a little bit. And you know, it

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Speaker 6: sort of worked in that sense, and now they're saying, oh, well,

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Speaker 6: if you don't give us the money, we're going to

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Speaker 6: raise the premiums again. And well, there never was a

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Speaker 6: big pandemic surge, so they got a huge plus up

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Speaker 6: for expenses that didn't come anywhere near what they were

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Speaker 6: funded at. The pandemic was bad, but it wasn't the

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Speaker 6: kind of thing that we funded. We funded a much

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Speaker 6: worse pandemic than what actually happened.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's bring Congressman Warren Davidson back at seven to sixteen,

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Speaker 1: right now. If you have KERSD talk station, talk station

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Speaker 1: seven nineteen, If if you have KCD talk station, Happy Friday,

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Speaker 1: Eve Thursday, at Congressman Warren Davidson on the phone, real

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Speaker 1: quick here Congresson Davidson on Obamacare. These supplements don't make

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Speaker 1: the premium go away, do they. They just give the

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Speaker 1: impression that the premium has gone away to the people

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Speaker 1: who get the supplement. So, no, I'm not paying one

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars a month for insurance. I'm only paying three

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Speaker 1: hundred dollars a month for insurance. I can handle that.

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Speaker 1: But that other seven hundred dollars has been padded by

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Speaker 1: a supplement is still being paid just the weight of

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Speaker 1: that is being borne by the American taxpayer, as expressed

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Speaker 1: in the form of our national debt.

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 6: I mean it's a transference. It's really no different than

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Speaker 6: forgiving student debt in the sense that you know, it

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Speaker 6: really isn't forgiven. It's just transferring it from the person

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Speaker 6: that owes it to the person to the taxpayers. And

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Speaker 6: that's the problem with Obamacare. And look, if you look

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Speaker 6: at government, it's grown massively and one of the biggest

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Speaker 6: places it's grown is healthcare. I mean, back back in

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Speaker 6: the sixties when Medicaid was was rolled out under the

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Speaker 6: Great Society, healthcare was about six percent of the US economy. Well,

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Speaker 6: people still needed health care back then, but now it's

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Speaker 6: about twenty five percent of the economy. So as we've

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Speaker 6: added more and more government, all its done is inflate.

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Speaker 6: And we add government because well it's expensive. But the

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Speaker 6: more government you put in, the faster the inflation is

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Speaker 6: because that's what causes the inflation. Right, Well, it also

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Speaker 6: causes the person that gets the subsidy then okay, well

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Speaker 6: it's good for you, but the market price has gone

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Speaker 6: up for everybody else.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I guess I mean insurance as a concept,

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Speaker 1: the loan will cause people to go to the doctor

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Speaker 1: more often because the perception is that it's not costing anything.

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Speaker 1: You know, well, my insurance company's going to pay for it.

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Speaker 1: Well that's an to go see the doctor perhaps more often,

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Speaker 1: but it's also knowing that they're going to get paid

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Speaker 1: and center for the providers to jack up the prices

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Speaker 1: because the insurance company is going to cover it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean single payer that will pay any price

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Speaker 6: also fails. I mean it's collapsing our kind of if

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Speaker 6: you look at what's eating the federal budget. You know,

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Speaker 6: just Medicaid and Medicare are a huge, huge thing. Now,

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Speaker 6: we need them, they're considered essential. We certainly want those things,

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Speaker 6: but they haven't been.

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Speaker 7: A good check.

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Speaker 6: And if you look at some of our hospital networks,

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Speaker 6: you know they're getting like seventy five percent of their

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Speaker 6: funding from the federal government of federal dollars with Medicaid,

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Speaker 6: Medicare programs like that, and so the private sector where

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Speaker 6: you know, one hundred and sixty hundred and eighty million

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Speaker 6: Americans get their health insurance through workplace benefit, so overwhelming

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Speaker 6: majority they're getting their healthcare while on payroll in a job.

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Speaker 6: But that portion of the payment is you know, in

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Speaker 6: best case, a third twenty five percent to a third

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Speaker 6: of the payment stream for a hospital network. So there's

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Speaker 6: all kinds of reforms that need to be done really

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Speaker 6: just to protect the function of Medicaid Medicare in the

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Speaker 6: private healthcare economy. Obamacare undermines those things, and instead of

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Speaker 6: dealing with the root issue, we're sitting here propping up

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Speaker 6: a program that clearly didn't work.

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Speaker 1: Wish we could solve the problems of the world just

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Speaker 1: during this conversation Congress from Warren Davidson, it's a million

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Speaker 1: directions I want to go. But on that point, let's

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Speaker 1: move over real quick here, because China, it looks like

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump had some success. He's having great success on

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Speaker 1: his trip to Asia, negotiating some great trade deals. Everyone

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Speaker 1: seems to be pleased, and he even suggested that he

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Speaker 1: had success with Jijinping, tougher federal enforcement, rare earth mineral negotiations.

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Speaker 1: Do you have optimism of the results of this trip,

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Speaker 1: most notably in connection with our relationship with China.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Look, I mean he went to a lot of other

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Speaker 6: countries before he went to China, and I think this

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Speaker 6: is part of just shoring up the supply chain in

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Speaker 6: a lot of ways de risking our supply chain relationship

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Speaker 6: with China. So it gave him the stronghand to deal

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01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 6: with China. And frankly, a lot of people early on

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Speaker 6: they're like, why are we putting taros on all these

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Speaker 6: other countries. Well, China agreed to be a market economy

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Speaker 6: with when they joined the World Trade Organization. You know,

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Speaker 6: it's the main thing that Bill Clinton worked on, and

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Speaker 6: they got launched right around the end of his presidency

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Speaker 6: and started George W. Bush's But China hasn't become a

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Speaker 6: market economy. Their economy has grown a lot, but they've

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Speaker 6: done all kinds of things to shape the market, block

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Speaker 6: access to their own while dumping and subsidizing all over

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Speaker 6: the world. And we've become incredibly dependent upon China, and

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Speaker 6: we even for things like pharmaceuticals, and we saw during

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Speaker 6: COVID just to get critical things, we can't really function

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Speaker 6: while that access to the China market. And that's that's

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Speaker 6: a really important vulnerability. So tried to deal with that

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Speaker 6: with our own countries, like with Canada, with Mexico, with Europeans,

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Speaker 6: with Japan, Korea, you name it to say, yeah, we

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Speaker 6: want a better relationship with you, but you got to

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Speaker 6: help us with China. China's going to do what they

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Speaker 6: said they would do, and I hope we at least

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Speaker 6: move in that direction.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I say we own a Donald Trump, and

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Speaker 1: he has had wild success getting promises and commitments of

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Speaker 1: billions and billions of dollars investment in the United States,

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Speaker 1: most notably in the area of pharmaceutical production. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we learned a lot from COVID was a painful lesson,

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01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 1: but our eyes woke up and it's not too late.

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Speaker 1: We can take over manufacturing in this country and bring

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Speaker 1: about a reliable source of pharmaceuticals among other products that

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Speaker 1: we don't have to rely on our arch enemy for.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and look, I'd rather do business with China than

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01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 6: end up truly treating them as an enemy and find

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Speaker 6: a way to get into yet another kind of war,

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Speaker 6: some version of it, a cold war if nothing else.

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Speaker 6: You know, great, but you know, peace through strength, right

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01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:05,839
Speaker 6: and right now, we're vulnerable and not strong, and that's important.

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Speaker 6: Whether it's semiconductors, chips, you know my old industry, tooling,

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Speaker 6: you know a lot of these things, dies, molds, castings forgings.

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Speaker 6: You're still dependent upon China in a lot of ways,

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Speaker 6: and a lot of Trump's America First strategy is to

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Speaker 6: make us less vulnerable to those kinds of things. It's

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Speaker 6: a big part of what he's doing with trade, and

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Speaker 6: I just I think this is long overdue and an

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Speaker 6: important trip.

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Speaker 1: Congressman Warren Davidson, Well, thank you for your service to

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Speaker 1: our country, your ongoing service to our country, and your

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Speaker 1: elected capacity, and thanks to your voters for putting you

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Speaker 1: in office. You're a good man. We really appreciate the

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Speaker 1: work that you're doing, and I, of course thoroughly appreciate,

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Speaker 1: along with my listeners, your willingness to come on the

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Speaker 1: program and talk about these important issues. Congressman Davidson until

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Speaker 1: our next conversation, and wish you and your family the

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Speaker 1: best of health and all the success in the world.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks for defending freedom, Brian, God bless you and

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Speaker 6: all your listeners.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. Seven twenty six fifty five KRCD tal

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Speaker 1: Oh Look Covers Station. It's seven thirty one to fifty

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Speaker 1: five KRCD talk station. Try to make it a happy Thursday.

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Speaker 1: If you can get over to the Fort Thomas Military

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Speaker 1: Community History Museum if you hadn't heard of it like me,

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Speaker 1: and I apologize to that. My next guest Deanna bini Key,

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Speaker 1: She's the director of the Fort Thomas Military Community History Museum.

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Speaker 1: She's gonna being an Empower Youth Seminar tonight beginning at

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Speaker 1: seven pm. Log in from home or show up at

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01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 1: three hundred Great Oaks Drive for the Empower Youth Seminar's

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Speaker 1: classroom and get a big eye full and history of

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Speaker 1: the World War Two propaganda posters. Welcome to the program, Deana.

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Speaker 1: It's a pleasure to have you on this morning. Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you, uh my apologies. As I mentioned in the

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Speaker 1: intro there the Fort Thomas Military and Community History Museum.

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Speaker 1: I until this morning did not know there was one

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Speaker 1: of those. Can you tell my listeners when this got

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Speaker 1: gone and what people can see there? Before we get

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Speaker 1: to the propaganda posters seminar information, we are a hidden.

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Speaker 15: Gym in Fort Thomas. We're located in Tower Park, which

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Speaker 15: is if you're familiar with Fort Thomas, Tower Park is

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Speaker 15: the park that used to be part of the VA

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Speaker 15: facility during the wartime. The museum was established in a

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Speaker 15: display case in nineteen ninety nine. We moved to our

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Speaker 15: current location in two thousand and nine. We are getting

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Speaker 15: ready to switch out our World War II exhibits. For

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Speaker 15: the past four years, we have had a tribute to

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Speaker 15: the more than two hundred and fifty thousand soldiers who

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Speaker 15: processed through Fort Thomas between November of nineteen forty and

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Speaker 15: June of nineteen forty four.

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Speaker 1: Oh why.

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Speaker 15: Yeah. If you had a family member from Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana,

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Speaker 15: or West Virginia and they went were in the Army

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Speaker 15: or the Army Air Corps, they processed.

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Speaker 1: Through here, that's amazing. See I learned something. I say,

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Speaker 1: I learned something in the if you five Casey Morey, sure,

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Speaker 1: every single day of my life. That is an overwhelming

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01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:07,719
Speaker 1: number of folks. Yes, and you said you distinctly said

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Speaker 1: it started with a display case. The exhibit's grown quite

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Speaker 1: a bit since you had a display case, hasn't adenna.

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Speaker 15: Yes, we are up to more than four thousand artifacts.

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Speaker 15: We're about two thirds military and a third community based.

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Speaker 15: For our exhibits. We do have a permanent couple of

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Speaker 15: permanent military rooms, and then we have a Beverly Hills

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Speaker 15: Tribute room. I've about the fire, Yeah, that's and then

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Speaker 15: we have two rooms that rotate depending on what exhibit

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Speaker 15: we choose to put. Next year, those two rooms will

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Speaker 15: be converted from current World War two things to one

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Speaker 15: room will be all about the schools over the years,

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Speaker 15: and one room will be probably decades of businesses with

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Speaker 15: little artifacts from various businesses in.

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Speaker 1: Ten all related to the Fort Thomas community locally, So

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Speaker 1: rotating stock. I guess it's almost like the Smithsonian. They

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Speaker 1: have thousands and thousands of stuff behind the scenes, and

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Speaker 1: you've got to bring it out every once in a

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Speaker 1: while to show people. So a rotating exhibits. The next

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Speaker 1: time you go to the Fort Thomas Military and Community

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Speaker 1: History it may be different than the prior time you've

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Speaker 1: been there. So there's a strong encouragement for folks to

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Speaker 1: keep going back time and time again. Dan, how did

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Speaker 1: you get interested in the World War Two? Since you

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Speaker 1: are doing the World War Two propaganda poster empower you

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Speaker 1: seminar tonight.

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Speaker 15: Well, I've always been interested in World War Two. My

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Speaker 15: father was a veteran of World War Two. He served

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Speaker 15: with Patton's Third Army in the sixth Armored Division, so

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Speaker 15: I have a great respect for anything World War Two.

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Speaker 15: In fact, I was a history was my I've one

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Speaker 15: of my double majors in college. The museum came about

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Speaker 15: because I have curated a couple of exhibits over the years.

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Speaker 15: I am the director now because the previous director had

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Speaker 15: a health emergency and I said, Okay, I'll take over

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Speaker 15: for a year. That was in twenty seventeen and I'm

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Speaker 15: still there. Well, I will do it probably another couple

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Speaker 15: of years because i'll be eighty and I think it's

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Speaker 15: going to be time to retire.

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Speaker 1: Oh shush, You're doing what you love. That's what's keeping

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Speaker 1: you alive. And well, Deanna, let's pause because I want

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Speaker 1: to get I have a couple of pointed questions to

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Speaker 1: ask you about the propaganda posters themselves. Will get help

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Speaker 1: my listeners understand what you're going to be talking about.

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Speaker 1: It's seven thirty five. I want to take a break

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Speaker 1: and bring it right back. It's empower You Talk station

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01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:50,000
Speaker 1: tonight tonight, seven pm. Empower Youoamerica dot org. Your register

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01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 1: for the class World War two propaganda posters brought to

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Speaker 1: us by the director of the Fort Thomas Military Community Hospital.

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Speaker 1: My guest today, Deana Binnicky. I'm I remember Dan, I apologize.

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Speaker 1: I had asked for a reading on the pronunciation of

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Speaker 1: your last name, and Joe had told me, and I

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Speaker 1: wrote a big I over the top of the EI party.

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Speaker 15: Remember remember Muler.

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Speaker 1: That's right. But I'll remember Dana Binicky first, because I'm

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Speaker 1: going to go over to the Fort Thomas Military and

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Speaker 1: Community History Museum sometime here soon. But the World War

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Speaker 1: Two propaganda posters are rather interesting. I think contextually it's

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Speaker 1: really important that that was the vehicle for our government

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Speaker 1: to communicate to us, because this is really early on

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Speaker 1: in television. Hardly anybody had TVs at this period of time,

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Speaker 1: and there was no Internet, so if you weren't seeing

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Speaker 1: it on the very hard to find televisions, you weren't

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Speaker 1: going to get the message. So they put these propaganda

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Speaker 1: posters up, and they dealt with a whole bunch of

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Speaker 1: different subject matters. That isn't just I want you with

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01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 1: Uncle Sam asking you to enlist in the US Army,

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Speaker 1: but it's also you know, encouraging loose slips, saying ships

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01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 1: you got Rosie, the that are encouraging work, encouraging people

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Speaker 1: to engage in some measure of belt tightening, because the

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Speaker 1: troops need all the help they can get so it's

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Speaker 1: it's an interesting phenomenon, and these posters are amazing in

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Speaker 1: terms of the artwork they present. Do you have any

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Speaker 1: of them that stand out particularly for you, Deanna?

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Speaker 15: We have two hundred and sixty seven of the from

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Speaker 15: World War One and World War Two. A volunteer from

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Speaker 15: the museum rescued them when the dav was getting ready

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Speaker 15: to throw them away. Oh, and so we have them

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Speaker 15: in stories. There are the ones that I'm going to

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Speaker 15: talk about tonight are ones that we own, except for

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Speaker 15: the I want you you know the Uncle Sam. Yeah,

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Speaker 15: he actually did that poster for World War One and

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Speaker 15: it was revived and reissued for World War Two. Montgomery

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01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 15: Flag used himself as the model, and he did several

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01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:11,680
Speaker 15: Uncle Sam posters in different poses. I'm going to have

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Speaker 15: that one because I talk about that iconic poster because

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Speaker 15: you still see it. Oh, sure, got format and people

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Speaker 15: recognize that poster more than any other poster. I'm not

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Speaker 15: going to talk about Rosie the River because we don't

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Speaker 15: own that one. I'm not going to talk about the

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Speaker 15: Norman Rockwell for Freedoms because we don't own that. Probably

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Speaker 15: one of my favorites is a war bond poster that

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Speaker 15: shows a little girl probably about two years old, and

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Speaker 15: it simply says to have and to hold and you

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01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:55,200
Speaker 15: see this not quite Gerber baby a little bit older

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Speaker 15: than that, and then it says five extra bonds. Another

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Speaker 15: favorite is one of the James flag James Montgomery flag posters,

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Speaker 15: which is not politically correct, and I don't have it

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Speaker 15: up in the exhibit right now because I didn't. We're

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Speaker 15: not there to invite controversy, and it was a time

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Speaker 15: when we designed this. Anyway, it's Uncle Sam rolling up

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Speaker 15: his sleeves and saying, Jap, you're next.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I remember seeing that one before.

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Speaker 15: Which was designed after the victory in Europe. But in

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Speaker 15: a war weary world, we still needed to be motivated

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01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:44,040
Speaker 15: to support our troops, and the troops needed to be

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01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:47,920
Speaker 15: motivated to go to the Pacific and continue the flight

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Speaker 15: h the fight. So I've got We had an exhibit

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Speaker 15: a few years ago that pulled seventy five posters from

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Speaker 15: World War One and World War Two. They were roughly

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Speaker 15: evenly divided between the two wars, which meant I had

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Speaker 15: about forty close to forty posters for World War Two.

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Speaker 15: I'm only featuring twenty two of those tonight.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's gonna be a lot with just twenty two.

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Speaker 1: There's so much history behind these, you know. And I

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Speaker 1: as we were talking, I went ahead and did an

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Speaker 1: Internet search on propaganda posters the United States. You mentioned

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Speaker 1: sort of the that racist element that might seep through.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we were in the middle of a war,

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Speaker 1: but the depictions of Japanese and that stereotypical glasses, the

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Speaker 1: buck tooth kind of looked that they always depicted them

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Speaker 1: in movies as obviously that perceived as extremely racist, but

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Speaker 1: that image appeared on a lot of World War two

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Speaker 1: posters as well.

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Speaker 15: So it's well, the idea of propaganda is to influence

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Speaker 15: thinking and disseminate information, and the message was we are

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Speaker 15: the good guys and the enemies of the bad guys,

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Speaker 15: and those stereotypes that showed up. I've got a poster

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Speaker 15: that shows an arm holding a knife stabbing through a Bible.

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Speaker 15: The arm on them, like the cufflink is the Nazi

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Speaker 15: slastica holding the knife destroying Christianity. That's one that's quite striking.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, those messages really tend to click, especially when you're

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Speaker 1: in the middle of a war. A war, so we're

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Speaker 1: gonna learn all about this tonight seven pm. I just

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Speaker 1: saw another one open Trap Make Happy jap with that

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01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:48,240
Speaker 1: same sort of stereotypical image of a Japanese person talking

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01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:51,320
Speaker 1: about like loose lips sink ships. It's an image of

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01:34:51,400 --> 01:34:53,639
Speaker 1: him with his ear to a keyhole in a door.

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Speaker 1: So this is just fascinating stuff. It's all on full

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Speaker 1: display tonight, at least a handful of them relative to

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Speaker 1: the entire exhibits numbers, and Deanna's going to do a

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Speaker 1: great job explaining all this to you and walking you

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Speaker 1: through World War two propaganda posters. Dianna bini Key, It's

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Speaker 1: been a real pleasure having you on. Keep up the

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01:35:09,160 --> 01:35:12,080
Speaker 1: great work, and thanks for introducing me and a lot

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Speaker 1: of my listeners perhaps to the for Thomas Military Community

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Speaker 1: History Museum, which I'm going to encourage everyone to check

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Speaker 1: out sometime real soon.

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Speaker 15: Well check it out next spring, because we're about to

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Speaker 15: close for this school. We're not open. We're not open

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Speaker 15: in December, January, and February because the weather is a

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01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 15: factor fair enough, and that's that's our downtime when we

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01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:38,240
Speaker 15: break down exhibits and put new exhibits up.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad I said that out loud because somebody might

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01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:44,519
Speaker 1: have shut up next month. Would you have a website

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01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:45,720
Speaker 1: just for the museum.

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01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:49,000
Speaker 15: Well, the best way to get in touch with me

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01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 15: is through our I think there's a website that the

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Speaker 15: city operates because of the city owns the museum. But

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Speaker 15: the best way to arrange a private tour, because we

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Speaker 15: still we'll do private tours between mail and mid December,

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Speaker 15: is Fort Thomas Museum at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 1: Fort Thomas Museum at gmail dot com. That's fantastic. I'm

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Speaker 1: glad you mentioned private tours as well, Deanna. We'll keep

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Speaker 1: up the great work. Don't retire. We need you over

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Speaker 1: there doing all this great history work and taking care

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Speaker 1: of the museum and making Fort Thomas proud. It's been

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Speaker 1: a pleasure having you on. Good luck with a seminar tonight, folks,

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Speaker 1: empower Youamerica dot org. Make sure you register, either show

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Speaker 1: up in person or login from home. It should be

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Speaker 1: really fascinating. Seven fifty three fifty've got KEROCV talk station

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Speaker 1: looking forward to the time after the following the after

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Speaker 1: the top of the art news, Get it out of

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Speaker 1: your mouth. Brian brother Dre Andrea Ewing returns thirty year

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01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:48,000
Speaker 1: veteran police officer, he's retired. He's an outspoken community activist

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01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:50,680
Speaker 1: doing help for some youth and trying to impact their

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01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:53,400
Speaker 1: lives for the positive. He is on fire when you

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01:36:53,439 --> 01:36:55,280
Speaker 1: see him on social media, and I recommend, as I

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01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:57,920
Speaker 1: have been many many times Andre Ewing, follow him on

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01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:01,360
Speaker 1: follow him on Facebook, and you'll get an earful and

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01:37:01,479 --> 01:37:03,880
Speaker 1: he does not pull any punches, will get his spleen

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Speaker 1: vent which helped summarize the next hour of conversation. Of course,

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Speaker 1: we will be focusing largely on police chief. Three Tresea

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Speaker 1: Thigi saw the interesting enquire article for Maaron Glenn and

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01:37:15,200 --> 01:37:18,719
Speaker 1: Scott Wartman this morning. City's sidelining of public chief draws

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01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:24,000
Speaker 1: blacklash from all sides the even fellow Democrats criticize the

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Speaker 1: decision to place through an administrative leave, calling the situation chaotic.

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Speaker 1: They're saying she's being used as a scapegoat social media

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01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:32,920
Speaker 1: posts popping up all over the place. And support a

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Speaker 1: police chief, three Cythigi, which means you're not supporting Mayor

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01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:39,120
Speaker 1: aftab Provoll and city Manager Cheryl long. I like how

1738
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:43,280
Speaker 1: Parvoll passed the buck. He said he did not give.

1739
01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:47,479
Speaker 1: He said he did not decide whether or not to

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01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:50,240
Speaker 1: keep Fiji. That was the city manager's sole decision. But

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01:37:50,360 --> 01:37:52,599
Speaker 1: he does respect the city manager. So in other words,

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01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:56,200
Speaker 1: aftab Parvall agrees with what she did. But the goofy

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01:37:56,320 --> 01:37:58,920
Speaker 1: part about this and talked to russ Neville yesterday about

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01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:01,680
Speaker 1: this retired since Police Captain russ Neville just happened to

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01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:08,000
Speaker 1: be the brother of Police Chief Dji. That the investigation

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01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:11,080
Speaker 1: that they're now paying for. The law firm that's bit

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01:38:11,200 --> 01:38:13,559
Speaker 1: retained is gonna get forty gram between now and December

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01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 1: to conduct an investigation into police treat Chief Diji's work

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Speaker 1: as a police police chief. They didn't say why they

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01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:25,719
Speaker 1: put her on administrative leave. They just did. They didn't

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01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:28,960
Speaker 1: explain it. Now we're gonna play somebody administraive leave. Shouldn't

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01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:31,639
Speaker 1: have a reason like we're pointing to this particular thing

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01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:34,920
Speaker 1: or reason she did this which justifies it being placed

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Speaker 1: on paid administrative leave. No, we're gonna put her on

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Speaker 1: administrative leave. Then we're gonna hire a high folute law

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01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:43,320
Speaker 1: firm and pay them fat Bank to look into her

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01:38:43,439 --> 01:38:47,080
Speaker 1: background to see if they can find something. Is that

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Speaker 1: the way I understand that we're gonna hear from brother

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Speaker 1: a brother Ewing, Andre Ewing Brother Dre. He's in studio

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Speaker 1: looking sharp. We're gonna get into him in a minute.

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Speaker 1: Stick around, be right back after.

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Speaker 2: The Newsy Top headlines coming up at the top of

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Speaker 2: the hour.

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Speaker 1: Ato six to fifty five KR seed de Talk Station,

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Speaker 1: Happy Thursday. I'm so please look across the board here

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01:39:31,439 --> 01:39:34,720
Speaker 1: and see my good friend Andrea Ewing. Outspoken critic. He

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01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:37,800
Speaker 1: is of everything he finds worthy of criticism, regardless of

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01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:40,439
Speaker 1: which side of the ledger it's coming from. He issues

1775
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:43,320
Speaker 1: what I will call Shenanigan's declarations on a weekly basis.

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01:39:43,360 --> 01:39:45,479
Speaker 1: I strongly encourage you to follow him. It's just he

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01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:48,880
Speaker 1: is just out, just great. I guess I find myself

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01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:51,160
Speaker 1: like reaching up to high five someone who's not even

1779
01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:54,400
Speaker 1: there when I'm hearing Andrea preaches a gospel there. On

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01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:59,000
Speaker 1: Andre Ewing's Facebook page, Brother Dre Curse Breakers three hundred

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01:39:59,080 --> 01:40:01,679
Speaker 1: strong as his organation trying to help some young people

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Speaker 1: and get people out of trouble. It's welcome back. It's

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Speaker 1: always great to see.

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Speaker 12: You, man, always good, good to see you.

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01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:09,479
Speaker 1: And I understand you know you're You're like a thorn

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01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:11,040
Speaker 1: in everybody's side lately, aren't you?

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Speaker 5: Right now?

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01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:13,760
Speaker 12: Public enemy number one?

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Speaker 1: I don't know about that. Hey, sometimes the truth is

1790
01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:21,000
Speaker 1: hard to take and to the extent you're not aware.

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01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:23,479
Speaker 1: Drea is here to talk about, of course, the downtown

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Speaker 1: police situation. He worked as a CINCINNTI police officer for

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Speaker 1: thirty years, a distinguished career. He had retired from the

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Speaker 1: force and he's gone on to do a lot of

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01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:34,400
Speaker 1: community work and good work he does. But of course,

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Speaker 1: being a part of the system for thirty years, he's

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01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:38,000
Speaker 1: got a lot of insight. He remembers what it was

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01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:40,400
Speaker 1: like before issue five. He knows what it's like since

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Speaker 1: issue five.

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Speaker 7: And you.

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Speaker 1: You've been calling a throwing a flag red card whatever

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Speaker 1: you want to say with regard to police Chief Diji.

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Speaker 1: Now this idea that she is being used as a scapegoat,

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01:40:54,439 --> 01:40:56,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to I'll let you address all this. But

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01:40:56,280 --> 01:40:59,040
Speaker 1: as I have unfolded it in my mind, and this

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01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:01,080
Speaker 1: is where you can feel free to come after me

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01:41:01,240 --> 01:41:05,839
Speaker 1: and say, no, Brian, you've got it wrong. She obviously

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01:41:05,920 --> 01:41:07,880
Speaker 1: we have crime in this city. Of course we know

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01:41:07,960 --> 01:41:10,000
Speaker 1: have to have. Pearl Wall has been in denial about crime,

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01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:12,240
Speaker 1: but he finally came to the realization we have some crime.

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Speaker 1: We had this situation with Holly, we had Sarah Heringer's

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01:41:15,120 --> 01:41:18,040
Speaker 1: husband getting slaughtered. We got beatdowns, we got brawls, we

1813
01:41:18,160 --> 01:41:20,840
Speaker 1: got gang activity, we got youth activity on government Square,

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01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:22,479
Speaker 1: on and on and on and on and on. So

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Speaker 1: at one point, I guess a havetab wakes up and

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01:41:24,479 --> 01:41:26,519
Speaker 1: does acknowledge a crime problem. He's got an election to

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Speaker 1: worry about. And lo and behold. Police Chiefdiji gets called

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Speaker 1: back from her meeting with the with the law enforcement

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Speaker 1: officers out of town and they put her on administrative leave.

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Speaker 1: They didn't say why they put her on administrative leave.

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Speaker 1: Did you ever hear a specific reason that was mentioned,

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Speaker 1: like we are doing this for the reasons, for the

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Speaker 1: following reasons.

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Speaker 12: They just did it, correct, They just went off and

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Speaker 12: they just did it okay, And basically from everything that

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01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:54,880
Speaker 12: they're trying to compile and put the blame game. But

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Speaker 12: that's why I said, they all are in the same

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Speaker 12: bed together. You can't blame one without.

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Speaker 1: The other, Okay, And this is where we're going to

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Speaker 1: get to what I would like to call like a

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01:42:03,080 --> 01:42:06,519
Speaker 1: circuity or a circular firing squad. But Police Thiet, he's

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Speaker 1: been doing her job for a long time. I haven't

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Speaker 1: heard the administration, pearl Ball sharel long or even members

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01:42:12,360 --> 01:42:15,080
Speaker 1: or council complain about the work that she has been

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Speaker 1: doing up until all this kind of hit the fan

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Speaker 1: late in the game. Apparently she had an unblemish record.

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Speaker 1: They were all, you know, smiles and handshaky several weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: and you know, they had the support of each other.

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01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:30,360
Speaker 1: So then this event happens, and they've retained a law

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01:42:30,439 --> 01:42:33,040
Speaker 1: firm out of Columbus, big high flute law firm, you know,

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01:42:33,080 --> 01:42:35,519
Speaker 1: four hundred and twenty five dollar an hour lawyers to

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01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:40,519
Speaker 1: look into her period of time as police chief, which

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Speaker 1: appears to me for the purposes of maybe finding something

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Speaker 1: they can hang their hat on to blame her and

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Speaker 1: thus justify their putting her on administrative leave or maybe

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Speaker 1: even firing her.

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Speaker 12: Right, I mean, Rian, let's look at it. This whole

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01:42:53,640 --> 01:42:58,720
Speaker 12: thing is ridiculous, is shaky. The leaderships has shown that

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01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:03,160
Speaker 12: they are completely confused. You don't have somebody that you

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Speaker 12: claim is number one. Aftab is clear, Hey, this is

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01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:09,519
Speaker 12: my number one go to been asked several times do

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Speaker 12: you have faith in this chief? He said totally.

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Speaker 14: I do.

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Speaker 12: Chre along the same thing. Everyone has had total faith

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Speaker 12: in Chief Thiji. Now, like I said, I'm not here

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01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:25,200
Speaker 12: the bass Chief Thiji and her commitment in years of service.

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Speaker 12: But what I am here to do is get to

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01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:29,920
Speaker 12: the truth. In the heart of the matter is that

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01:43:30,160 --> 01:43:33,120
Speaker 12: you were part of this entire problem in the situation.

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Speaker 12: But now here's ur Long in the mayor saying hey,

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01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:39,559
Speaker 12: we need to come up with something now to get

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Speaker 12: rid of you, and it just shows how terrible this

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01:43:43,120 --> 01:43:46,120
Speaker 12: entire process has went. So that's why if you see

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Speaker 12: all my videos, I'm extremely consistent that from the chief,

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01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:52,760
Speaker 12: you got to deal with Cheryl Long. You can't deal

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01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:55,080
Speaker 12: with chir Long without the mayor. You can't really deal

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01:43:55,160 --> 01:43:57,479
Speaker 12: with the mayor without dealing with Iris Rowley. That's why

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01:43:57,600 --> 01:44:00,599
Speaker 12: the whole shebang has to go well.

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Speaker 1: And the voters have an opportunity to do just that

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Speaker 1: next Tuesday, or go in today and vote. Voter Board

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Speaker 1: of Elections open. Just check the hours you can vote.

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Speaker 1: You can even vote over the weekend, including on Sunday.

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01:44:09,680 --> 01:44:12,200
Speaker 1: They have voting on Sunday. So there's no excuse here

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01:44:12,280 --> 01:44:15,000
Speaker 1: other than people just not getting off the butt or

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01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:15,840
Speaker 1: voting for.

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Speaker 3: The same thing again.

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Speaker 1: And how dumb might that be?

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Speaker 12: Andre Here we go over and over and over again.

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Speaker 12: But one thing that is interesting. I mean because of course,

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Speaker 12: you know, Corey Bowman is staying, hey, look, let the

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Speaker 12: police do their job. Just let them do their job.

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Speaker 12: And I agree, but you have to be careful and say,

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01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:38,439
Speaker 12: what is doing your job? You just can't have a

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01:44:38,600 --> 01:44:41,920
Speaker 12: green light to do whatever you want. There still needs

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01:44:41,960 --> 01:44:45,120
Speaker 12: to be some focus on community development. There has to

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01:44:45,160 --> 01:44:48,600
Speaker 12: be police and community relations, and so you still have

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01:44:48,760 --> 01:44:51,599
Speaker 12: to be careful not to just go ahead and give

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01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:54,200
Speaker 12: say the fop of green light to say we're going

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01:44:54,280 --> 01:44:57,360
Speaker 12: to do whatever we want to in this city of Cincinnati.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I really haven't heard anybody advocate for that. I think

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Speaker 1: under modern circumstances, when we want the police to do

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01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:07,280
Speaker 1: their job, we want them free to enforce the law,

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01:45:07,600 --> 01:45:10,040
Speaker 1: Let the legal process do what it's supposed to do.

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01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:13,240
Speaker 1: Lock up bad people. Serve as an example to everybody

1896
01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:15,080
Speaker 1: else who might break crime that you two are going

1897
01:45:15,160 --> 01:45:17,440
Speaker 1: to be held accountable for it, and hold people accountable,

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01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:21,240
Speaker 1: not reckless policing or pulling over driving while black, or

1899
01:45:21,560 --> 01:45:25,320
Speaker 1: you know, making up pretexts for stops. I'd like to

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01:45:25,360 --> 01:45:27,000
Speaker 1: think that that is a thing of the past. I'm

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01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:29,400
Speaker 1: smarter than that to know that, yes, it probably still

1902
01:45:29,479 --> 01:45:32,240
Speaker 1: does happen. But letting the police do their job from

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01:45:32,280 --> 01:45:36,320
Speaker 1: a best practices standpoint means not taking away money and

1904
01:45:36,479 --> 01:45:41,679
Speaker 1: resources and allocations of you know, maybe getting some rather

1905
01:45:41,760 --> 01:45:46,120
Speaker 1: than police, some community activists to sort of de escalate

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01:45:46,240 --> 01:45:48,400
Speaker 1: the situation or something when you really need a cop

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01:45:48,479 --> 01:45:49,480
Speaker 1: on the streets.

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Speaker 12: Correct, I mean, Ran, if we're on the same team

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01:45:51,439 --> 01:45:53,400
Speaker 12: and you post a block for me, you are my

1910
01:45:53,680 --> 01:45:56,839
Speaker 12: offensive line, and when I get the ball, you completely

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01:45:56,920 --> 01:46:00,760
Speaker 12: say I don't care, Andre, I'm gonna let you get sacked, right, Okay,

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01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:03,280
Speaker 12: I'm gonna get sacked every single time because you let

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01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:05,960
Speaker 12: the defense in. And this is why. If the judges

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01:46:05,960 --> 01:46:08,160
Speaker 12: aren't on the same page, the police aren't on the

1915
01:46:08,200 --> 01:46:10,880
Speaker 12: same page, the sheriff isn't on the same page. How

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01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:13,639
Speaker 12: we lock them up. Everybody is not on the same page.

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Speaker 12: It doesn't matter. We're going to go through this process

1918
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Speaker 12: even if Corey Bowman is mayor, but we have to

1919
01:46:20,240 --> 01:46:24,160
Speaker 12: sit back and work together to have a winning team

1920
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Speaker 12: and a winning city.

1921
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Speaker 5: All right.

1922
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:30,479
Speaker 1: In viewing things on that same page context, we go

1923
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Speaker 1: back to Police Chief Tiji. I'm always of the mind

1924
01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:39,960
Speaker 1: that purvol and Long are I won't maybe necessarily say

1925
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Speaker 1: completely defund the police, but there's certainly a reimagine. They

1926
01:46:43,439 --> 01:46:46,160
Speaker 1: are not in favor of tickets. They're not in favor

1927
01:46:46,200 --> 01:46:49,960
Speaker 1: of this accountability that they think society is inherently corrupt

1928
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Speaker 1: or whatever, and anybody out there committing crimes it isn't

1929
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Speaker 1: their fault and somebody else's fault. That's the mentality that

1930
01:46:55,120 --> 01:46:57,799
Speaker 1: I just want to boil down with my perception. Anyway,

1931
01:46:58,080 --> 01:47:00,400
Speaker 1: and if that is in fact the case, they get

1932
01:47:00,439 --> 01:47:04,400
Speaker 1: police Chief Theji in place, they selected her, Cheryl Long

1933
01:47:04,560 --> 01:47:08,280
Speaker 1: hired her. Did they hire her because she shares their

1934
01:47:08,640 --> 01:47:12,160
Speaker 1: perception of law enforcement or did they hire her because

1935
01:47:12,200 --> 01:47:15,040
Speaker 1: they knew she would, even if she doesn't believe in it,

1936
01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:20,000
Speaker 1: would operate the department along the lines of their viewpoint

1937
01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:22,720
Speaker 1: that on their page, as opposed to what might have

1938
01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:26,240
Speaker 1: been Police Chief Thji's own page, had she been given

1939
01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:30,200
Speaker 1: the opportunity to run the department as she saw fit. Okay,

1940
01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:32,200
Speaker 1: so which page are we talking about.

1941
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Speaker 12: Let's deal with the first page, number one. Any employer,

1942
01:47:36,439 --> 01:47:38,840
Speaker 12: any CEO of a company, they're going to interview and

1943
01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:41,120
Speaker 12: make sure you're on the same page with them, right

1944
01:47:41,320 --> 01:47:44,280
Speaker 12: and if you're not, sorry, we see a better candidate.

1945
01:47:44,600 --> 01:47:46,400
Speaker 12: So at the end of the day, you can't get

1946
01:47:46,520 --> 01:47:50,080
Speaker 12: rid of a District five unless a chief of police

1947
01:47:50,240 --> 01:47:54,200
Speaker 12: agrees with you and pushes the agenda and says, you

1948
01:47:54,320 --> 01:47:56,920
Speaker 12: know what, we can get rid of a District five

1949
01:47:57,360 --> 01:48:01,920
Speaker 12: and still have police response time that have not went down.

1950
01:48:02,360 --> 01:48:05,799
Speaker 12: So make that make sense that you got to travel

1951
01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:09,840
Speaker 12: to a complete longer distance and the response times doesn't

1952
01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:12,639
Speaker 12: go down for the citizens of Cincinnati. So yes, Chief

1953
01:48:12,720 --> 01:48:15,960
Speaker 12: Fiji knew exactly what she was getting into because for

1954
01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:19,559
Speaker 12: three years she had nothing negative to say about her

1955
01:48:19,680 --> 01:48:24,080
Speaker 12: bosses or employees. So understand this is what's interesting. You

1956
01:48:24,320 --> 01:48:27,599
Speaker 12: not one time stepped up for your officers. You didn't

1957
01:48:27,640 --> 01:48:30,519
Speaker 12: speak out for your officers, and all the things that

1958
01:48:30,640 --> 01:48:34,000
Speaker 12: were happening in city Hall you agreed to. And now

1959
01:48:34,160 --> 01:48:36,560
Speaker 12: all of a sudden, whoops, they want to fire me.

1960
01:48:36,920 --> 01:48:40,960
Speaker 12: Now guess what aftap you need to go. Everybody now

1961
01:48:41,120 --> 01:48:44,960
Speaker 12: vote for Corey Bowman, this is a dangerous situation because

1962
01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:48,720
Speaker 12: who do you trust, Brother Brian, in this situation, who

1963
01:48:48,800 --> 01:48:49,439
Speaker 12: do you trust?

1964
01:48:49,800 --> 01:48:52,160
Speaker 1: I don't know who to trust because quite honestly, I

1965
01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:55,120
Speaker 1: don't have any information out there to draw any conclusions. Again,

1966
01:48:55,560 --> 01:48:58,840
Speaker 1: she got on administrative leave without any specific item or

1967
01:48:58,920 --> 01:49:03,760
Speaker 1: thing being site. It's a mystery. Was she bending to

1968
01:49:03,800 --> 01:49:05,840
Speaker 1: the will of purvol and Long in spite of what

1969
01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:09,880
Speaker 1: she really wanted to accomplish. You're right, no criticism of

1970
01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:12,920
Speaker 1: the administration from her during the period of time she's

1971
01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:15,840
Speaker 1: been chief, and magically we come to this point where

1972
01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:18,719
Speaker 1: clearly there's a division between the administration and the chief.

1973
01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:22,320
Speaker 1: So I'm missing a whole lot of documents, a whole

1974
01:49:22,360 --> 01:49:24,160
Speaker 1: lot of facts, And that's exactly what I think is

1975
01:49:24,200 --> 01:49:27,439
Speaker 1: going to ultimately come out. Sadly, it's going to come

1976
01:49:27,439 --> 01:49:29,400
Speaker 1: out after the election is over correct?

1977
01:49:29,479 --> 01:49:31,920
Speaker 12: Correct? But who do you believe right now? Even with

1978
01:49:32,280 --> 01:49:35,400
Speaker 12: Sheryl Long saying we have this investigation. I mean, at

1979
01:49:35,439 --> 01:49:37,200
Speaker 12: the end of the day, anything you want to find

1980
01:49:37,280 --> 01:49:42,160
Speaker 12: on anybody, you can no exactly, Okay, the climate assessment

1981
01:49:42,400 --> 01:49:45,479
Speaker 12: is still out there, which is interesting because they never

1982
01:49:45,880 --> 01:49:50,680
Speaker 12: used or presented the climate assessment three years ago when

1983
01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:52,200
Speaker 12: the police department filled it out.

1984
01:49:52,479 --> 01:49:54,479
Speaker 1: Let's pause on that because I want you to enlighten

1985
01:49:54,560 --> 01:49:57,080
Speaker 1: my listeners as to exactly what this climate assessment is

1986
01:49:57,080 --> 01:49:59,080
Speaker 1: all about and what the information is that they might

1987
01:49:59,160 --> 01:50:02,200
Speaker 1: glean from it. That's an important point. More with Andrea

1988
01:50:02,320 --> 01:50:04,839
Speaker 1: Ewing I've had the conversation may deviate over to the Bengals.

1989
01:50:06,680 --> 01:50:09,600
Speaker 1: Andre Ewing and I are discussing perhaps coaching changes for

1990
01:50:09,680 --> 01:50:13,360
Speaker 1: this insane Bengals over the break there, andre Ewing outspoken observer,

1991
01:50:13,640 --> 01:50:16,280
Speaker 1: factual observer, and of course somebody who's willing to put

1992
01:50:16,320 --> 01:50:18,960
Speaker 1: his point of view online and on record and pulls

1993
01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:22,240
Speaker 1: no punches doing it. Andre Ewing Facebook dot com. You're

1994
01:50:22,240 --> 01:50:25,920
Speaker 1: going to join his thousands of followers and check him

1995
01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:28,200
Speaker 1: out every week, and he's offering some great insight. You

1996
01:50:28,280 --> 01:50:32,120
Speaker 1: mentioned the climate assessment. I keep hearing this climate assessment.

1997
01:50:32,760 --> 01:50:35,320
Speaker 1: What is the purpose of that? What does a climate

1998
01:50:35,439 --> 01:50:38,040
Speaker 1: assessment encounter or encompass? Drake?

1999
01:50:38,479 --> 01:50:41,680
Speaker 12: Well, a climate assessment is to test the temperature and

2000
01:50:41,800 --> 01:50:46,280
Speaker 12: the morale of say institution or police department. So in

2001
01:50:46,320 --> 01:50:49,040
Speaker 12: our case, the police department, the city manager wanted to

2002
01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:53,400
Speaker 12: present a climate assessment to see what are the things

2003
01:50:53,479 --> 01:50:56,599
Speaker 12: that are needed to strengths and weaknesses of our police

2004
01:50:56,640 --> 01:50:59,400
Speaker 12: department and what do we think about it? And with

2005
01:50:59,680 --> 01:51:03,600
Speaker 12: that process, there was a test that was taken and

2006
01:51:04,280 --> 01:51:08,400
Speaker 12: ironically it was a lot of negativity that came back

2007
01:51:08,439 --> 01:51:10,519
Speaker 12: from that assessment, but they never released it.

2008
01:51:10,720 --> 01:51:11,599
Speaker 1: What year was this done?

2009
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Speaker 12: This was done right when Thiji was becoming the chief

2010
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:16,920
Speaker 12: of police.

2011
01:51:16,920 --> 01:51:20,280
Speaker 1: Before the District five decision was made. Correct, Okay, correct?

2012
01:51:20,320 --> 01:51:22,400
Speaker 12: So we talked about right there in that mix when

2013
01:51:22,720 --> 01:51:26,080
Speaker 12: Sheryl Long was going around from district to district asking

2014
01:51:26,160 --> 01:51:28,839
Speaker 12: who do we want to be the chief of police

2015
01:51:28,960 --> 01:51:32,200
Speaker 12: and at the same time started to present the climate

2016
01:51:32,280 --> 01:51:36,479
Speaker 12: assessment for officers to fill out. And I'm telling you

2017
01:51:36,680 --> 01:51:41,000
Speaker 12: they're gonna use that now against Thiji and twist the narrative.

2018
01:51:41,040 --> 01:51:44,160
Speaker 12: And that's why I said, you can't trust anybody now

2019
01:51:44,400 --> 01:51:46,000
Speaker 12: in this particular situation.

2020
01:51:46,200 --> 01:51:48,640
Speaker 1: They took the climate assessment before she was elevated the

2021
01:51:48,720 --> 01:51:51,879
Speaker 1: position of chief. How could they use that climate assessment

2022
01:51:51,960 --> 01:51:54,920
Speaker 1: to evaluate her tenure as chief? Andre Ewing?

2023
01:51:55,000 --> 01:51:55,519
Speaker 8: What the hell?

2024
01:51:55,640 --> 01:51:59,160
Speaker 12: Because it was all in the same window during that process,

2025
01:51:59,400 --> 01:52:02,720
Speaker 12: so all of it was still dealing with leadership and

2026
01:52:02,920 --> 01:52:05,560
Speaker 12: this particular process. So it's still gonna be within the

2027
01:52:05,640 --> 01:52:08,479
Speaker 12: same window and trust me, that's why they got the

2028
01:52:08,560 --> 01:52:13,080
Speaker 12: third party attorney firm looking at everything so Cheryl Long

2029
01:52:13,120 --> 01:52:16,920
Speaker 12: could say, see, it wasn't me. They found all this

2030
01:52:17,200 --> 01:52:20,439
Speaker 12: information that was presented. And that's why I said, when

2031
01:52:20,479 --> 01:52:25,400
Speaker 12: you look at the entire team, I'm gonna stay consistent. Yeah,

2032
01:52:25,640 --> 01:52:30,960
Speaker 12: I'm Counteam of the Mayor, of Sheryl Long, of the chief,

2033
01:52:31,120 --> 01:52:32,280
Speaker 12: and even Iris Rowley.

2034
01:52:32,680 --> 01:52:34,400
Speaker 3: You have a mess.

2035
01:52:34,800 --> 01:52:37,080
Speaker 12: And in this situation, what do you need to do

2036
01:52:37,200 --> 01:52:39,559
Speaker 12: when you have an entire mess clean it up?

2037
01:52:40,200 --> 01:52:43,840
Speaker 1: Well I'm sitting here with my mouth hanging open, Andre,

2038
01:52:44,040 --> 01:52:48,040
Speaker 1: because I don't understand how Cheryl Long. Whatever this law

2039
01:52:48,160 --> 01:52:49,960
Speaker 1: firm finds out, maybe they'll give her a clean bill

2040
01:52:49,960 --> 01:52:51,759
Speaker 1: of health. Maybe they'll say there's all kinds of problems

2041
01:52:51,800 --> 01:52:55,880
Speaker 1: in her background. She doesn't know about anything. I mean,

2042
01:52:56,240 --> 01:52:58,560
Speaker 1: so far, like we started out, the predicate was in

2043
01:52:58,680 --> 01:53:01,559
Speaker 1: these statements out loud of the GM republic work. Everything's great.

2044
01:53:02,760 --> 01:53:06,680
Speaker 1: Are police Chief's doing a great job? Right, So I'm

2045
01:53:06,720 --> 01:53:08,920
Speaker 1: stuck with the idea that they put on administrative leave.

2046
01:53:09,000 --> 01:53:10,439
Speaker 1: I mean to only have a law firm go out

2047
01:53:10,439 --> 01:53:12,960
Speaker 1: and find something and then and like recreate and reinvent

2048
01:53:13,040 --> 01:53:14,519
Speaker 1: the wheel and then present it to share along a

2049
01:53:14,560 --> 01:53:19,600
Speaker 1: shit she can't say, see right, I mean, it's preposterous,

2050
01:53:19,680 --> 01:53:21,719
Speaker 1: And that the idea that she could even get away

2051
01:53:21,880 --> 01:53:23,680
Speaker 1: of saying, see, they found all the stuff that we

2052
01:53:23,800 --> 01:53:25,920
Speaker 1: knew there was something going on, we knew it was wrong. Well,

2053
01:53:25,960 --> 01:53:27,599
Speaker 1: if you knew it was bad, you knew there were problems,

2054
01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:29,639
Speaker 1: why'd you stand up and tell everybody things were great?

2055
01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:33,320
Speaker 12: Exactly? So let's go back to the old school liar, liar,

2056
01:53:33,640 --> 01:53:36,599
Speaker 12: pants on fire. Let's just get down to the roots

2057
01:53:36,680 --> 01:53:41,280
Speaker 12: of how you see the corruption, the nonsense, the backstabbing,

2058
01:53:41,400 --> 01:53:46,240
Speaker 12: the backbiting. It's all in your face now with everything unfolding,

2059
01:53:46,320 --> 01:53:49,240
Speaker 12: when you have chaos inside of administration.

2060
01:53:50,120 --> 01:53:53,960
Speaker 1: Well, and then there's this weird person called Iris Rowley,

2061
01:53:54,840 --> 01:53:57,200
Speaker 1: and that she is. She has a contract with the

2062
01:53:57,320 --> 01:53:59,519
Speaker 1: city for five hundred and some more thousand dollars. I

2063
01:53:59,560 --> 01:54:01,400
Speaker 1: don't know what's slice of it she keeps. I know

2064
01:54:01,479 --> 01:54:03,360
Speaker 1: that she hired her son to do some work on

2065
01:54:03,439 --> 01:54:05,760
Speaker 1: Government Square. I don't know whether he's qualified to do

2066
01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:10,240
Speaker 1: it or not. But she is such an outspoken anti

2067
01:54:10,520 --> 01:54:15,760
Speaker 1: police critic, a demonstrated record of really what I will

2068
01:54:15,840 --> 01:54:18,960
Speaker 1: boil down to a single word, my word subjective observation,

2069
01:54:22,280 --> 01:54:25,519
Speaker 1: just has a disdain for the police.

2070
01:54:26,160 --> 01:54:28,280
Speaker 12: Okay, So let me ask you something. If that's the

2071
01:54:28,439 --> 01:54:32,960
Speaker 12: case and she does go around anti police, she was

2072
01:54:33,040 --> 01:54:37,640
Speaker 12: interfering with arrests, clearly with obstruction. So tell me why

2073
01:54:38,320 --> 01:54:42,760
Speaker 12: in that process she's an advisor for a city hall.

2074
01:54:43,600 --> 01:54:46,400
Speaker 12: The chief and the chief of police never spoke out

2075
01:54:46,440 --> 01:54:47,000
Speaker 12: against her.

2076
01:54:47,400 --> 01:54:52,000
Speaker 1: And her advisory capacity. How much sway and influence does

2077
01:54:52,040 --> 01:54:56,320
Speaker 1: an anti police person have over the police department and

2078
01:54:56,400 --> 01:54:58,839
Speaker 1: the decisions relative to it. I mean, is it possible,

2079
01:54:58,880 --> 01:55:02,040
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying this happen, but would for example,

2080
01:55:02,240 --> 01:55:05,760
Speaker 1: Iris Roley have enough sway and influence over Cheryl Long

2081
01:55:05,920 --> 01:55:08,520
Speaker 1: that Iris Rolli could say, Cheryl Lung, you need to fire,

2082
01:55:09,080 --> 01:55:10,600
Speaker 1: you need to put the trease to Thiji on the

2083
01:55:10,600 --> 01:55:11,520
Speaker 1: administrative leave.

2084
01:55:12,160 --> 01:55:14,880
Speaker 12: Well I don't believe so, because let me tell you why.

2085
01:55:15,560 --> 01:55:18,200
Speaker 12: A part of Fiji getting hired, and this has been

2086
01:55:18,280 --> 01:55:22,200
Speaker 12: public information, was Iris Rowley was sitting on a panel

2087
01:55:22,640 --> 01:55:26,120
Speaker 12: of the selection for the pick of chief of police.

2088
01:55:26,560 --> 01:55:30,480
Speaker 12: Oh my goodness, brother, Brian, here we go again.

2089
01:55:30,840 --> 01:55:31,520
Speaker 1: So look at this.

2090
01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:35,080
Speaker 12: So you have Iris Rolli who was a strong influence

2091
01:55:35,360 --> 01:55:41,360
Speaker 12: on selecting Chief Thiji, the city manager who selected Chief

2092
01:55:41,440 --> 01:55:45,240
Speaker 12: Thiji and the mayor who agreed with it. So at

2093
01:55:45,280 --> 01:55:47,520
Speaker 12: the end of the day, this is why you will

2094
01:55:47,680 --> 01:55:52,120
Speaker 12: hear me stay consistent. The whole team has to go

2095
01:55:52,640 --> 01:55:56,480
Speaker 12: because there's too many problems inside the house.

2096
01:55:56,400 --> 01:55:59,440
Speaker 1: Well teeth except my listeners are curious, would you recommend

2097
01:55:59,480 --> 01:56:02,560
Speaker 1: save going with Corey Bowman, maybe a Steve Good and

2098
01:56:02,600 --> 01:56:05,720
Speaker 1: a Christopher Smith and some of the non current members

2099
01:56:05,760 --> 01:56:08,720
Speaker 1: of council, a new mayor that that would be your advice.

2100
01:56:09,080 --> 01:56:12,160
Speaker 12: That would be my advice. And Corey Bowman would have

2101
01:56:12,320 --> 01:56:15,960
Speaker 12: to surround himself with the proper advisors. Oh yeah, you know,

2102
01:56:16,240 --> 01:56:19,680
Speaker 12: I'm I'm a Biblical man as well. And when you

2103
01:56:19,760 --> 01:56:24,520
Speaker 12: look throughout the Bible, any leader set themselves around strong

2104
01:56:25,040 --> 01:56:29,080
Speaker 12: godly advisors, and especially Daniel, and Daniel would tell the

2105
01:56:29,280 --> 01:56:33,520
Speaker 12: King himself, don't ask me anything that I will not

2106
01:56:34,080 --> 01:56:37,760
Speaker 12: tell you the absolute truth, even if you don't like it.

2107
01:56:38,240 --> 01:56:40,960
Speaker 1: Best leaders surround themselves are the best people, not yes

2108
01:56:41,160 --> 01:56:46,000
Speaker 1: men or women, the best, brightest in any given subject matter.

2109
01:56:46,080 --> 01:56:49,520
Speaker 1: Amens that I can't embrace that concept enough. E twenty

2110
01:56:49,560 --> 01:56:50,400
Speaker 1: seven Right now more with.

2111
01:56:50,440 --> 01:56:51,880
Speaker 2: On Talkstation.

2112
01:56:55,640 --> 01:57:00,680
Speaker 1: Eight thirty one fifty five krc BE Talk Station Right

2113
01:57:00,760 --> 01:57:04,440
Speaker 1: Thomas with Andrea Ewing thirty years as a police officer

2114
01:57:04,480 --> 01:57:07,040
Speaker 1: with the Sinsint Police Department, and he's taken on some

2115
01:57:07,160 --> 01:57:09,600
Speaker 1: community activism roles, and he keeps his eye on the

2116
01:57:09,600 --> 01:57:12,080
Speaker 1: ball when it comes to being observant about what's going

2117
01:57:12,120 --> 01:57:15,080
Speaker 1: on in downtown Cincinnati, most notably within involving the police

2118
01:57:15,120 --> 01:57:19,080
Speaker 1: department and quite often speaking truth to power, rubbing people

2119
01:57:19,120 --> 01:57:22,000
Speaker 1: the wrong way to regardless of the politicals, which side

2120
01:57:22,000 --> 01:57:24,480
Speaker 1: of the political level or direction they come from. But

2121
01:57:24,840 --> 01:57:26,880
Speaker 1: Andre Ewing, I want to go back to District five

2122
01:57:28,120 --> 01:57:31,120
Speaker 1: because you know, if you just look at it, we have,

2123
01:57:31,280 --> 01:57:34,240
Speaker 1: you know, these districts, and you know the police operate

2124
01:57:34,360 --> 01:57:37,560
Speaker 1: out of their districts. Those districts are located in certain neighborhoods.

2125
01:57:37,920 --> 01:57:40,520
Speaker 1: So if you get rid of one of the districts,

2126
01:57:40,560 --> 01:57:43,520
Speaker 1: it just necessarily stands to reason that the officers that

2127
01:57:43,560 --> 01:57:46,240
Speaker 1: eased to go in and out of that district have

2128
01:57:46,360 --> 01:57:48,240
Speaker 1: to report to and go in and out of some

2129
01:57:48,560 --> 01:57:52,520
Speaker 1: other district. Correct. And if the district was in this neighborhood,

2130
01:57:53,200 --> 01:57:55,720
Speaker 1: then that neighborhood is no longer going to have police

2131
01:57:56,200 --> 01:57:58,000
Speaker 1: moving in and out of it because you've closed the

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Speaker 1: district down. Correct response times, I think undeniably just looking

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Speaker 1: at it objectively like that, response times are going to

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Speaker 1: be longer in areas where you no longer have a district.

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Speaker 12: Absolutely, I say to my athletes and even coaches, you

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Speaker 12: have a relay, thats usually four legs, correct, Yeah, take

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Speaker 12: away one leg?

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Speaker 1: Right, what happens. It's gonna take a while.

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Speaker 12: It's gonna take a while.

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Speaker 1: You can see it on paper.

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Speaker 2: Correct.

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Speaker 1: And then since they closed District five, that's become a

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Speaker 1: real lived experience for the officers. And there's been all kinds.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've hit people on this program talking about, well,

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Speaker 1: it used to only take me five minutes, and now

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Speaker 1: it takes me ten minutes or and you know when

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Speaker 1: seconds count, you know it's gonna minutes. They're gonna really

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Speaker 1: be a big factor in all that. Absolutely, So, recognizing

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Speaker 1: all that, why did they close District five? This is

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Speaker 1: simply a question of money.

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Speaker 12: Point blank. Is let me put money. If it don't

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Speaker 12: make money, it don't make sense. And that's what they

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Speaker 12: try to say. And so this was a part of

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Speaker 12: defunding the police. And so here is District five gets removed.

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Speaker 12: The city say budget has more money to work with,

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Speaker 12: and they have a community starts to buy into it's

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Speaker 12: great that we don't have District five, which was ridiculous

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Speaker 12: because the Community College Hill North Side. Ask them right

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Speaker 12: now how much they miss District five and those units

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Speaker 12: and people in the community have to travel up to

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Speaker 12: District three on Ferguson Avenue and it's the traffic there

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Speaker 12: is already horrific. So it's a disservice to the community.

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Speaker 12: And it shows once again how Sheryl Long has manipulated

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Speaker 12: the system and has the chief that agrees with her

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Speaker 12: to be able to sell this to her officers and

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Speaker 12: to the community.

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Speaker 1: Well, the narrative that we've all been sold over and

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Speaker 1: over and over again that you know, police departments are

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Speaker 1: inherently racist, they give people anxiety. To see an officer

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Speaker 1: in uniform is going to create anxiety for people in

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Speaker 1: any given neighborhood, and that these communities are going to

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Speaker 1: embrace the concept of not having cops driving in and

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Speaker 1: out of the district that used to be there. Is

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Speaker 1: that that's not what the people really believe, is it.

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Speaker 12: That's not what the people believe, not at all, And

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Speaker 12: we need to stop with this false narrative. I mean,

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Speaker 12: because I've been on like I said thirty years and

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Speaker 12: people are glad and happy to see me. My approach

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Speaker 12: has always been approachable, and so people that are victims

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Speaker 12: of crime, they want to be able to have a

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Speaker 12: police district close by that is part of the community.

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Speaker 12: Then this is how you develop community relations because you

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Speaker 12: have a district in the heart of the community, not

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Speaker 12: away from it. It's in the heart, and you bring

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Speaker 12: people to come around, Hey, we have things in our

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Speaker 12: parking lot. We want to do things in the community,

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Speaker 12: and this builds relations and so to remove it out

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Speaker 12: of a community shows a disservice. Children cannot have a relationship,

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Speaker 12: and then you get this negativity towards the police.

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Speaker 1: And then in the more troubled neighborhoods, at least neighborhoods

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Speaker 1: that have a higher crime rate. If let's say one

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Speaker 1: of those neighborhoods happens to be that way, the response

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Speaker 1: times are going to be a lot longer, which means

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Speaker 1: if you call for services and emergency services and a

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Speaker 1: cop doesn't show up for ten minutes because he's driving

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Speaker 1: from the other side of town, that is going to

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Speaker 1: create a negative perception of the police. They don't care

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Speaker 1: about me, they don't care about my neighborhood. They won't

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Speaker 1: show they can't show up on time.

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Speaker 12: Something's wrong here, something's very wrong, and we need to

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Speaker 12: fix it. And then next thing, you know, here we

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Speaker 12: are the mayor says safety is my what do you say,

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Speaker 12: number one, two and three priority?

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Speaker 1: That was yesterday?

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Speaker 12: So how do you do that when you start to

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Speaker 12: remove things that deal with safety?

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Speaker 1: And then there's that pesky problem of the contingent of

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Speaker 1: police officers that we have and it's still way way understaffed.

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Speaker 1: I want to address that with you. Andre Ewing Moore

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Speaker 1: coming out, Don't.

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Speaker 12: Go Away, fifty five KRC Winter is Coming the Talk Station.

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Speaker 1: A thirty nine fifty five kr CD talk station homework assignment.

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Speaker 1: Follow Andrea Ewing on Facebook, learn about the man and

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Speaker 1: listen to this segment. If you're just tuned in you

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Speaker 1: got a podcast fifty five CARC dot com at the

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Speaker 1: entire conversation with Andrea Ewing, thirty year career, a police officer,

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Speaker 1: he's been retired for a while, making a student observations

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Speaker 1: about the current well, we'll say situation. What died to

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Speaker 1: call it a Charlie foxtrot for my military listeners out there,

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Speaker 1: But they had the Police Chiefdji and the whole craziness

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Speaker 1: that's going on. So we built up to this point.

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Speaker 1: We talked about District five and that was one of

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Speaker 1: the initial things that Police Chiefdiji had to do was

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Speaker 1: closed District five. Correct. Correct. And you had one of

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Speaker 1: your friends chime in on that whole climate assessment. I

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Speaker 1: was saying, how can you use an unreleased climate assessment

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Speaker 1: from before she was police chief to evaluate what the

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Speaker 1: police think about her as police chief? But your friend

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Speaker 1: point out that, and it's a worthy point to make.

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Speaker 1: She was high up in the executive decision making branch

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Speaker 1: of the police department at the time. Correct.

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Speaker 12: Correct, And that's accurate. So no climate assessment is reflects leadership,

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Speaker 12: you know, as so to deal with leadership, and THEIJI

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Speaker 12: at the time was number two, executive.

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Speaker 1: Assistant chief, assistant chief.

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Speaker 12: Correct, she was assistant chief, So it still reflected that

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Speaker 12: entire process of what do the police officers think about leadership?

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Speaker 1: Fair Enough, I wanted you to be able to make

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Speaker 1: that point because it had to be on the record

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Speaker 1: to point that out. So there is some value in that,

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Speaker 1: at least in so far as that point in time

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Speaker 1: of how people felt about leadership generally, so we'll see

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Speaker 1: what it says. I guess the biggest problem is nobody's

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Speaker 1: seen it or it hasn't been released in full. Here

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Speaker 1: three years plus after the fact. Now, speaking of being

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Speaker 1: after the fact, Afteb pro Ball has been in office

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Speaker 1: for several years now. At no point in time did

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Speaker 1: I ever hear him talk about law enforcement being a

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Speaker 1: number one priority until just several weeks ago, after all

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Speaker 1: of these problems hit the city and Drew Art. We

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Speaker 1: got national attention for a lot of these. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we're making it an a front page in Fox News

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Speaker 1: and CNN's reporting on it. So it was a bad,

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Speaker 1: bad view or look for the city. Holly getting punched,

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Speaker 1: the riots, the problems with crime in downtown. So it

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Speaker 1: seems that he at least he's finally acknowledged it now.

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Speaker 1: I've seen quotes from him before where he says everything

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Speaker 1: in front of him as mayor starts from him looking

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Speaker 1: at it through a green lens or a climate lens,

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Speaker 1: which I find absolutely batcrap insants since he's the mayor

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Speaker 1: of a comparatively small city in the world. But apparently

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Speaker 1: carbon's emissions was number one for him until recently. And

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Speaker 1: now it's law enforcement number one, number one, number one,

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Speaker 1: and he wants to give you the impression that that's

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Speaker 1: been his focus all along. That being said, the number

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Speaker 1: of police officers when he was sworn in his mayor

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Speaker 1: to today, I know we were down when he was

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Speaker 1: worn in several hundred. Maybe you can put the actual

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Speaker 1: rumbers on it. We're supposed to be at eleven hundred issues.

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Speaker 12: That correct, but you know, with a growing city, you

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Speaker 12: should have way more officers anyway, So when AFTAB came in,

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Speaker 12: and I'm sure Ken Kober can speak on the exact numbers,

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Speaker 12: but the compliment right now we're down about two hundred officers,

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Speaker 12: and there are a lot of officers who are not

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Speaker 12: staying okay, and they're leaving early. They're getting out of

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Speaker 12: the drop program saying look, I don't care about the

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Speaker 12: money anymore. I'm done with this nonsense. I'm going to leave.

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Speaker 12: And so they can't keep an academy, put an academy

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Speaker 12: class quick enough to get those individuals out and to

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Speaker 12: train them for twenty six twenty seven weeks to be

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Speaker 12: ready for the streets and then have to go through

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Speaker 12: an FTO program and go through that process.

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Speaker 1: So they keep up with the.

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Speaker 12: Attrition, they cannot. So clearly the mayor has did a

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Speaker 12: disservice to the community with that, because that's not the case.

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Speaker 1: Well, and that's kind of why I brought it up,

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Speaker 1: is you at least think you want a full contingent

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Speaker 1: of police officers. Lateral hires have always been a possibility.

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Speaker 1: And the of course people's perception of the police department

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Speaker 1: went down because the defund police and Black Lives Matter

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Speaker 1: and all the other organizations out there screaming about how

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Speaker 1: much police suck. It's hard to get people to even

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Speaker 1: get into the field of law enforcement. I mean, do

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Speaker 1: you want a frozen bottle of water chucked at you?

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Speaker 1: Do you want to incendia a firework thrown at you?

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Speaker 1: Do you want to be demonized and ridiculed and kyled

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Speaker 1: a racist every single day? Do you want to be

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Speaker 1: spit on when you're walking to work in your uniform?

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Speaker 1: That's all real stuff, real. But if we could get

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Speaker 1: lateral hires, and that's always been a theoretical possibility, why

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Speaker 1: are we only now just talking about it. Why wasn't

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Speaker 1: this being worked on from day one? Provole administration start

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Speaker 1: working hard to increase the compliment. Not just remain status quo,

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Speaker 1: but increase the compliment. So these officers aren't working their

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Speaker 1: fingers to the bone with overtime hours that they don't

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Speaker 1: even want to do.

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Speaker 12: Well, let me tell you what's interesting is that officers

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Speaker 12: now don't want to come to Cincinnati. The laterals. They

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Speaker 12: don't want to come to Cincinnati. So you have these

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Speaker 12: surrounding areas. Blue Ash now has a high financial rate

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Speaker 12: for police officers. You have the surrounding North College Hills

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Speaker 12: and Springdale's. They have now come up to match Cincinnati's payroll.

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Speaker 12: And so if it was about money, they will go

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Speaker 12: to these other areas and deal with less headache. And

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Speaker 12: so why would you want to do a lateral and

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Speaker 12: come here. So what used to happen is those officers

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Speaker 12: that were in the Blue Ashes and say Elmwood's or

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Speaker 12: different jurisdictions would come to Cincinnati now for the money.

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Speaker 12: Now guess what they don't have to They can stay

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Speaker 12: where they are and.

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Speaker 1: Deal with less because it isn't just Cincinnati struggling with

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Speaker 1: officer Attrician. This concept of ill will hatred, poor perception

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Speaker 1: the police, this labeling of them as all inherently system

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Speaker 1: systemically racist is pretty much everywhere it usually is.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 12: Competition is a competition exactly. But I've seen some areas

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Speaker 12: that are thriving because of the chief that they have

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Speaker 12: in place. And I'll say that leadership matters if you

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Speaker 12: get a community that understands policing, that wants their community

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Speaker 12: to have a relationship. Look at those cities and look

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Speaker 12: at those chiefs and see how they're thriving.

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Speaker 1: One more with Andrea Yuing. I'm enjoying this, Andre, and

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Speaker 1: I appreciate your willingness to spend the whole hour with

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Speaker 1: my audience. I mean, this has been really interesting. Eight

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Speaker 1: Nine fifty five CACD talk station, talking about all the

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Speaker 1: problems going on the city of since Hey, not sure

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Speaker 1: if we're finding any solutions. With Andrea Ewing, thirty year

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Speaker 1: career law enforcement officer has been retired, but he is

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Speaker 1: still helping out the community in many big ways. I

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Speaker 1: encourage you to follow and see what he has to

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Speaker 1: say every week on at Andre Ewing on Facebook Andre Ewing.

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Speaker 1: You get a big kick out of it, and he

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Speaker 1: definitely does not pull any punches like the Morning show

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Speaker 1: this morning, Andrea, I kind of asking seems to me

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Speaker 1: that the political reality of this police chief appointment goes

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Speaker 1: squarely back to Issue five, which was taking away the

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Speaker 1: police department the union member's right to select the chief.

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Speaker 1: We go all the way back to Tom Striker days,

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Speaker 1: which gave Tom Striker protections under the collective bargaining contract

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Speaker 1: which prevented him from ever getting fired. So I get

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Speaker 1: the problem. Say what you want about Striker, good or bad,

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Speaker 1: but you see what the problem is. It's created by that.

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Speaker 1: Everybody gets it. Hence Issue five, which put complete control

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Speaker 1: in the hands of the city manager and presumably the

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Speaker 1: mayor in one person basically or two selecting the chief. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: that makes it political. I mean, we've been kind of

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Speaker 1: talking about the political nature of it with Chief Tiji,

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Speaker 1: But we have this interim police chief who also maybe

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Speaker 1: suggested in issuing a citation when the police officers on

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Speaker 1: the street said there was no basis for a citation.

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Speaker 1: Of course, I'm talking about that light slap that the

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Speaker 1: guy that ultimately got the crappy that of them in

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Speaker 1: late July. That suggests maybe he is perhaps a yes Man,

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Speaker 1: he's politically connected. I don't know, but it suggests that.

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Speaker 1: But the only reason I unfold it that way is

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Speaker 1: because Christopher Smithman and others have said, listen, what we

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Speaker 1: need to do is get counsel involved in the hiring

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Speaker 1: and firing. I think Christopher said, unanimous represent unanimous council consent,

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Speaker 1: or maybe at least a super majority seven out of nine.

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Speaker 1: Would that be a better place to be? Is it

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Speaker 1: possible for us to move in that direction with things

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Speaker 1: get better? At least as far as you see it, Yes.

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Speaker 12: I agree with that at least the total council or

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Speaker 12: at least are seven out of the nine, because that way,

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Speaker 12: one person doesn't have the total power, or even say

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Speaker 12: two the mayor of the city manager, because how is

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Speaker 12: that going to be an unbiased process if you don't

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Speaker 12: have others involved, and things can become personal, and that's

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Speaker 12: what it seems like. Now you have a personal fight

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Speaker 12: between the chief, the city manager and the mayor. So

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Speaker 12: at what point do you have others to be able

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Speaker 12: to chime in and say, we need all the information,

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Speaker 12: all the evidence, and if counsel does not totally agree,

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Speaker 12: then we will stick by counsel's decision. But if counsel

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Speaker 12: overwhelmingly agrees, then we know that there was just cause

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Speaker 12: in the process.

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Speaker 1: Right, Okay, And going back to my original perception, which

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Speaker 1: was either the chief, in spite of her desires and

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Speaker 1: what she would do in the role as chief, bowed

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Speaker 1: to the will of the manager or purvol and did

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Speaker 1: things their way. That's one thing. So ultimately then she's

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Speaker 1: let go because she went in the direction the administration

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Speaker 1: was or she agreed with them and ran the police

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Speaker 1: department consistently with what they wanted. Hence there was no

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Speaker 1: criticism of the administration by Thiji and no criticism of

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Speaker 1: Fiji by the administration.

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Speaker 5: Correct.

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Speaker 1: One person has the ability to hire and fire. So

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Speaker 1: going back to my theory, one is likely I would

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Speaker 1: argue to bow and capitulate in spite of what you

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Speaker 1: believe to be a better way to do things if

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Speaker 1: your job is on the line based upon the potential

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Speaker 1: whim of a single human being.

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Speaker 12: Hey, let me tell you something. What I would have

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Speaker 12: loved to sing I love to see a chief coming

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Speaker 12: to this city, even be interviewed and chief theeds. You

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Speaker 12: would have sat back and said, you know what, I

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Speaker 12: cannot agree to this type of leadership. I will not

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Speaker 12: put my officers on the line. What I'm going to

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Speaker 12: do is step down from this position because I will

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Speaker 12: not be a puppet. You don't get into a rhythm

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Speaker 12: with the mayor and city manager and say yes, I'll

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Speaker 12: do everything you ask completely, and nobody talks against each

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Speaker 12: other until she's let go. And so if she would

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Speaker 12: have stood her ground, had the integrity to say I

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Speaker 12: can't follow what you're asking me to do, I see

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Speaker 12: it a better way and step down. This way, if

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Speaker 12: no chief comes into Cincinnati to be hired and say

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Speaker 12: I can't follow your rule, city manager or mayor, this

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Speaker 12: is unrealistic to police properly and to do it safely,

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Speaker 12: and step down, they will change it unless somebody else

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Speaker 12: will sell their soul and just do anything for the power,

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Speaker 12: but not for the purpose.

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Speaker 1: Power not purpose. I under you always fascinating. I always

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Speaker 1: appreciate your thoughts, your well to the point commentary. It's

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Speaker 1: just wonderful and refreshing to have you on the program.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna keep watching you and following you on Facebook.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, follow them on Facebook Andre you and

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02:13:41,440 --> 02:13:43,680
Speaker 1: can get a kick out of it. That minimum good

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Speaker 1: to see you again and thanks for making a trip in.

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Speaker 1: It's always a real pleasure to being able to talk

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Speaker 1: to someone face to face.

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Speaker 12: Absolutely, And I got some breast cancer wearing his pens

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Speaker 12: for I'll give them to you and shout out to

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Speaker 12: my wife and she's going to be presented with something

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Speaker 12: today on Channel twelve. So just excited about that. For

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Speaker 12: breast cancer awareness and all those survivors out there and

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Speaker 12: those families, we love you and keep fighting.

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Speaker 1: Amen. We all can agree on one thing for certain.

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Speaker 1: In this politically divided world we live in. Everybody knows

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Speaker 1: cancer sucks. Yes, Andre youwan, we'll have you on again,

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Speaker 1: I hope. So, man, it's always enjoyable. Appreciate you, and

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Speaker 1: appreciate all the folks chiming in. You're getting a lot

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Speaker 1: of pat on the backs from Facebook messages and from

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Speaker 1: instant the messages I'm getting on my phone, and it's

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Speaker 1: a good, good, good thing to have you here, brother,