1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: We head out to the ka Comma Spirit Health Highline 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: to bring on Ian Rappaport, our NFL Network Insider powered 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: by Chevron. Chevron the human Energy company committed to our 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: local communities and safely delivering affordable, reliable, ever cleaner energy. 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: Ian. 6 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 3: Good afternoon, sir, Thank you so much for the time. 7 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 2: How are you no problem? What's going on? Guys? 8 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: How are you? 9 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: Oh? 10 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 3: We're fantastic. 11 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: I mean you can imagine how excited we are here 12 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: in Denver after winning that game yesterday afternoon. What has 13 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: been sort of the buzz that you've heard off the 14 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: Broncos win? 15 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think it's an interesting one. The 16 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: whole Broncos season has been interesting because you know, I 17 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 2: don't know how like aesthetically. 18 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 4: Pleasing it's been, you know, and generally when you have 19 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 4: teams that have great defenses and the offenses just sort 20 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 4: of make plays when it matters, like sometimes it doesn't, 21 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 4: you know, quote unquote look great, which I. 22 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: Think, you know, is probably why Broncos fans are feeling 23 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: like maybe people don't fully appreciate them. But that's okay, 24 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: because the winds still count. They're still you know, in 25 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:07,199 Speaker 2: commanding possession. Of first place in the division. They still 26 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 2: beat the Chiefs and I think, you know, are the 27 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: biggest threat to Kansas, you know, basically taking away Kansas 28 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: City stranglehold on the ANFC West really pretty fascinating, honestly, Ian. 29 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 5: Around the league, how do people look at the Broncos 30 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 5: now at ninety two. I'm sure a lot of people 31 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 5: didn't envision this when the season started. They'd be nine 32 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 5: to two at the at the break for them, and 33 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 5: you said, they've been winning ugly. It hasn't been that 34 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 5: pleasant at times, but they certainly seem to have the 35 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 5: clutch gene bow Nicks in particular, They're going to be 36 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 5: a formidi formidable team down the stretch. How are people 37 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 5: looking at them around the NFL? 38 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: Oh? 39 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think you know, they do the things 40 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: that good teams really need to do in you know, 41 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: December and January when it gets really cold, which is 42 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: they hit and they run the football. You know. Obviously 43 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: that took a took a hit when JK. Dobbins went 44 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,399 Speaker 2: out for the season. Obviously there's a chance it could 45 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 2: be back in February. But I think, you know, out 46 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 2: for the season is generally kind of the thought and 47 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 2: you know, so, look, I think they're going to be 48 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 2: around when it matters. You know. The interesting thing is, 49 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: and especially as it relates to bo Nicks, is like, 50 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: you know, there are plenty of things you can point 51 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 2: to where you can say, well, you know, he's he's inconsistent, 52 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: and like you know, for instance, on you know, on 53 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,119 Speaker 2: the Thursday night game with it one, it was sort 54 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: of like, well, it's the main consistencies only really makes 55 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: plays at the end. But it's sort of like that's 56 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 2: what it is, and that's what the NFL is, and 57 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: I think that's how then the margin Prairie is. You know, 58 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 2: if you can hang around and make important plays at 59 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 2: the end, you can win plenty games until you know 60 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 2: your consistency and your you know, everything else kind of 61 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: catches up. So, you know, I think the Broncos are 62 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 2: good enough. I think the record is going to put 63 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: them in a place where they're gonna have some advantages 64 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 2: in the playoffs. They'll have to go play and win, 65 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: but certainly looks like they're going to be there again. 66 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 3: You know, how would you characterize the AFC right now? 67 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: It feels relatively wide open, especially as we consider teams 68 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: like Baltimore's the Kansas City Chiefs, I guess maybe even Cincinnati. 69 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: In that conversation, the Chargers had a tough loss yesterday 70 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: and even Buffalo is playing for a wild card. It 71 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: seems like we have a lot of new blood there 72 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: at the top of the AFC right now. 73 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's you know, for those of 74 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: us who've been doing this a while, like, you know, 75 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 2: nothing against Kansas City, obviously, but you sort of, you know, 76 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: nothing wrong with some new blood, some new faces. You 77 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: get into the playoffs and you're learning about people and 78 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: you're watching new people, and you know, it's like the 79 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 2: Bills are great, and my guess is they're going to 80 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: be there right at the end. But this Patriots team 81 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: is pretty fun and pretty fun to watch, you know. 82 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: I think the Ravens are, you know, kind of the 83 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: team that's lurking right now. One last week didn't even 84 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: play great, but are you know, back to five hundred 85 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 2: and Lamar's healthy, and you know, they're a team to 86 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 2: really really keep an eye on. The Cults are another one. 87 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: You know, nobody came into the season talking about the Colts, 88 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: and I think they've showed that they do it. The 89 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 2: right way. They have some great weapons, they played defense well, 90 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: and they run the heck out of the ball. That's enough, 91 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 2: you know. But I'm looking forward to seeing some new 92 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: teams and learning about some new teams as you get 93 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: deep into the season and the postseason. 94 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 5: Here Ian, regarding the Chiefs five and five, I'm here, 95 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 5: some people say the end of a dynasty. Patrick Mahomes 96 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 5: not having a great year. They didn't look that great 97 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 5: yesterday against the Broncos. I could see why people would 98 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 5: say that maybe the dynasty's over for this season. But 99 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 5: let's go look a little bit forward after the season. 100 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 5: Do you think they can rebuild that mojo that they 101 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 5: had with this group they have right now? 102 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm not even ready to give up on the 103 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 2: season though, because as long as they have Patrick Mahomes, 104 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,679 Speaker 2: they got a shot. I mean again, like God forbid, 105 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 2: they get into the playoffs. Let's say they get into 106 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: the playoffs and they're the seventeen Who in the world 107 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,679 Speaker 2: wants to face Who in the world wants to face 108 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes? You know who in the world. So I 109 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 2: think that's you know, I am not ready to give 110 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 2: up on the dynasty, and it's you know, It's like 111 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: when when Joe Burrow said and his own said, you know, 112 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: how long is the Bengals playoff window open? He says, 113 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: as long as I'm playing. I would say this is 114 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: very very same thing for Kansas City, no doubt, as 115 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,239 Speaker 2: long as Mahomes is playing, the window is opening. 116 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: Have you heard anything on Jayden Daniel's potential availability on 117 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: the other side of this buy for Washington? I know 118 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: they lost yesterday. They're on a bit of a losing 119 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: streak right now. Does that impact at all the way 120 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: they would prepare to bring him back? 121 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: It might? Yeah, you know, I just if he's going 122 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 2: to get back out there, you sort of let if 123 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: it was all worth it, you know. Now, he's gonna 124 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: want to play, just like Joe Burrow is gonna want 125 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: to play. All these guys want to play. They are 126 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: football players and know. 127 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 5: What they do. 128 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: They play football. So he's gonna want to get out there, 129 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: and it'll be interesting to see, you know, kind of 130 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: what the team does. Do they you know, protect him 131 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: from himself and if he's fully cleared, you know, shouldn't 132 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 2: he be able to say, like, I want to play. 133 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 2: So I think there's some big decisions coming my general 134 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 2: sense was that, you know, the Broncos game would maybe 135 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 2: be a game too early, but no one has ruled 136 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 2: it out either, so you know, we'll we'll see, and 137 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: I think more information coming later in the week because 138 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: the plan was to evaluate Jayden throughout the bye and 139 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 2: that's kind of where they're at now. 140 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: Last one I have for you, Michael Pennix Junior going 141 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: on I are kind of another tough injury for him 142 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: over the course of his young career. The Falcons are 143 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: three and seven, and I obviously going to go Kirk Cousins. Now, 144 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: what do you think that this does for maybe their 145 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: future plans at quarterback, assuming that this season continues down 146 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: the trajectory that they missed the playoffs. 147 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 2: Well, I would say this like there's some ACL damage 148 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: for Michael Pennix, and so if he ends up having 149 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 2: ACL reconstruction is probably right up against the start of 150 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 2: the year next year. At the very least, they're going 151 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 2: to have to bring in some protection for him, a 152 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: bridge starter, a really good backup, you know, someone like 153 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins, but hard to imagine it is Kirk countin 154 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 2: als he decides to take a very very very low deal. 155 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 2: You know, or unless he, you know, maybe plays lights 156 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 2: out the next month and everything has to be reconsidered, 157 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 2: so you know, they'll need sort of a backup plan. 158 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: But if you're asking, do I think that they've stopped 159 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: thinking Michael Penicks as a franchise quarterback, I don't. I 160 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 2: think the people who are there still invested in him, 161 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: people who made the pick. I think there's a lot 162 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: to like. He's just, you know, a quarterback without a 163 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: ton of NFL experience, who you know, unfortunate. It has 164 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: done some things, It made some throws, it makes At 165 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 2: various times it makes you think that he's the guy. 166 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: But then at other times you're kind of like, all right, 167 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 2: is he So I'm still plenty of answers to come 168 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 2: in Atlanta. 169 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt about it. Ian always appreciated me, and 170 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 3: we'll check in me next week. 171 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: Okay, thanks guys, thank you, Thank you. 172 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 3: Ian Rockaport Our NFL Network Inside