1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: Okay, this could be literally the tightest Cooner country pole 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: question ever in the entire history of this show. It 3 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: is right now forty nine percent A Yes, fifty one 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: percent B No, and it keeps changing slightly back and forth. 5 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: So the poll question of the day is, did President Trump, 6 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: in your view, go too far in saying that the 7 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: murder of Rob Reiner was caused by trump derangement syndrome, 8 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: thereby causing his son to murder him and his wife. That's, 9 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: of course, caused a massive firestorm, tremendous criticism from so 10 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: many people, not just you know, on the media, which 11 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: you expect the Democrats Hollywood, but even from many Republicans. 12 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: And so my question to you do you think Trump 13 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: went too far? Or do you think he was just 14 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: telling the truth? Six one seven two six six sixty 15 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: eight sixty eight lines are on fire. Barry in New Bedford. 16 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: Thanks for holding Barry. 17 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 2: And welcome. 18 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: Thank you. Jeff. You ask a great question what a 19 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 3: line crossed with Trump's comments? And there is no line. 20 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 3: And I'm going to tell you when that line disappeared. 21 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 3: That line disappeared years ago when a president went down 22 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 3: to a memorial service for six murdered police officers and 23 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 3: told everybody in that audience and the TVs that were 24 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 3: filming it, that they were responsible for the murder of 25 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 3: those cops, not the shoot her. So there is no 26 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 3: line as far as Trump goes. And let me just 27 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 3: let me open this a little bit more. For twenty 28 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 3: five plus years, Robin Michelle winer with Trump's friends, as 29 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 3: was Barbara Streis and as wass Hollywood in the media. 30 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 3: Michelle I think his wife even worked on Trump's book. 31 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 3: The twenty five plus years. That man was your friend, 32 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 3: You partied with him, you hung out with him, he 33 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 3: even donated to your causes and helped you. And all 34 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 3: of a sudden, one election in twenty sixteen, they suddenly 35 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 3: disown you. And not just he's not your friend, We're 36 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 3: not talking blocking your phone number. You go on a crusade, 37 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 3: calling him hitler, satan, you want him jailed and hung, 38 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 3: and you want his kids dirested. His supporters attacked every day, 39 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 3: and that social media posts everything, that rhetoric and fire 40 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 3: gets amplified every day till now and then all of 41 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 3: a sudden, unfortunately miss Reiner and are are murdered, and 42 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 3: Trump puts out that statement and there's suddenly a firestorm 43 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 3: over it, which makes me laugh. That didn't come from 44 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 3: President Trump, Jeff. That came from Donald Trump, because at 45 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 3: the end of the day, he's not President Trump. He's 46 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 3: Donald Trump. And Donald Trump's always spoken from the cuff. 47 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 3: And last year you were two inches away from being 48 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 3: a death. They would have celebrated all over the United 49 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 3: States on social media and everywhere. So how do you 50 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 3: think he feels after twenty five years those people turn 51 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 3: on you who you thought they were your friends. As 52 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 3: a human, You're going to put that tweet out because 53 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 3: that's how you feel. I don't know how a president. 54 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 3: Maybe it's wrong, but there is no line to cross, Jeff. 55 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 3: Barack Obama destroyed that line a long time ago. 56 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: Barry, I got to say, very riveting, very emotional, very powerful, 57 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: and very riveting. 58 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: Barry. 59 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this just because to add to 60 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: your list, I think maybe of all of the wounds 61 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: that hurt Trump the most, frum And you're right. Rob 62 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: Reiner and Trump were friends for many years. His Rob 63 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: Reiner's wife, Michelle Singer, helped you literally the photograph the 64 00:03:55,960 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 1: cover of Trump's breakout book, Art of the Deal. That 65 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: cover that's the work of Rob Reiner's wife, Michelle. So 66 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: they were very close and they went to family functions together. 67 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: They ate together, they broke bread together, They helped each other. 68 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: Trump in particular, helped Rob Reiner with many of his projects. 69 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: And I think the one that really wounded Trump the most, yeah, 70 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: calling him hitler, racist, mentally unfit, the most unqualified man 71 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: to ever be president, you know. But it was when 72 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: he spent millions of his own money. This is Reiner, now, 73 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 1: Rob Reiner, millions of dollars his own money to team 74 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: up with the CIA, with members of the Obama administration, 75 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: with other far left anti Trump journalists, and that was 76 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: to create something called the Committee to Investigate Russia. It 77 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: was a big thing in his first term, and the 78 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: goal was to convince the public and convinced the media 79 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: and convinced people on Capitol Hill that Trump was a 80 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: secret agent of Russia. So if you notice, I can 81 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: play you the cut again, okay, But if you notice 82 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: when he's asked about the by a reporter, well, do 83 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: you want to walk your post back? And he says no, 84 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: I wasn't a big fan of him. And if you say, well, 85 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: what did he say, right? What did he say about 86 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: Rob Reiner? And he said, well, he pushed a Russia 87 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: collusion hoax. Notice he didn't say he called me hitler, 88 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: or he called me a white supremacist, or he called 89 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: me a racist, or you know, he cheered when they 90 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: shot at me in Butler and said, you know, oh, 91 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: it's a shame they missed. The one that's stuck in 92 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: his craw was he wanted to frame me as an 93 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: agent of Russia because I think he knew, of course 94 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,679 Speaker 1: not I think I know he knows. President Trump knows 95 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: how much money Rob Reiner poured into that effort. 96 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 2: Word to you, Barry, let me just say this. 97 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 3: Anybody who's human, it has emotions. Who's out there right now. 98 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: Barry, do me a favor, you know, Mike, would it 99 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: kill you to be just a little flexible? I mean, seriously, Okay, 100 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: let's go right back to Barry in New Bedford. Barry, 101 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: you're saying, look, let Donald Trump be Donald Trump. After 102 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: everything the Democrats, the media, the left, Hollywood, and people 103 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: like Rob Reiner have done to him. If he wants 104 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: to hit him back and hit him back hard, he's 105 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: got every right. 106 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 2: To do so. Please Barry, finish your final point. 107 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 3: Go ahead, Okay, at the end of the day, if 108 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 3: you're a Democrat Republican, I don't care Trump supporter, not 109 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 3: Trump supporter. If you're a greatest friend in the world 110 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 3: of twenty five plus years, did this to you? Anybody, 111 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 3: the friends that you've lived your whole life, what you 112 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 3: grew up with, did this to you as a human being, 113 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 3: as an emotional being, You're not just never going to 114 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 3: forgive them. But then something happens. Listen, that was Donnie 115 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 3: Trump speaking from the cuff. He's always done this. I'm 116 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 3: not shocked what he said. It's kind of dark, sarcastic humor, 117 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 3: and it's dry. But I will defend Trump on this 118 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 3: to the day I die, because we all are human 119 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 3: and we all feel that way. And what they did 120 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 3: to him for twenty five years, I'm sorry. I can't 121 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 3: let that go. If my friend did it to me, 122 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 3: and my best friend in the world I grew up 123 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 3: with did this to me and then tried to get 124 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 3: me killed and I almost got killed and tries to 125 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 3: told me in jail for nothing other than political reasons. 126 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: I'm never going to forgive that person. And even that 127 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 3: comment like that, I would probably make it. I don't 128 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 3: care what people think of me because they weren't coming 129 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 3: after me. They weren't coming after my kings and my supporters. 130 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 3: They were trying to destroy my life for political I 131 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 3: didn't do anything to Rob. What did I do to 132 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 3: Rob Reiner? If I'm Donald Trump? Nothing I offended them 133 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 3: because I won an election. And that's that's the That's 134 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,559 Speaker 3: the real statement here. Jeff Trump's a human like everybody else, 135 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 3: you know. So you know what, if you're gonna rip him, fine, 136 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 3: he doesn't care. He's not running for office anymore after this. 137 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 3: He's done in three years, so he doesn't care what 138 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 3: he says now because it's not going to affect him 139 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 3: at the end of the day. 140 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: No, I hear you, No, Barry, Look, I got to say, 141 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: you're you're It's very passionate call. 142 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 2: It's a very powerful call. 143 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: I just want to ask you this what I care about, 144 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: and I'm sure you do as well. And I think, 145 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: to be fair, this is the fifty percent. 146 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 2: Again. 147 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: I've never seen the audience this splint ever, ever, ever, ever, 148 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: So I want to see all the poll ends. It's 149 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: like a you know, we're running going down to you know, 150 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: we're down to the down to the finish here, but 151 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: you know, down the stretch they come, as they say. 152 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: But so I want to see, you know what the 153 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: final result is. But what I care about is his 154 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: second term. I care about his next three years. I 155 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: care about his agenda. I know you do as well. 156 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 1: And I don't want to see him weakened. 157 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: That's to me as the key. 158 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: I want him to be as popular, be as strong 159 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: as possible, and not commit a self inflicted wound because 160 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: the stakes are so high. This is about the country, right, 161 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: it's not just about Trump. And so my question to 162 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: you is this, and I'm playing devil's advocate. You're right 163 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: as a human being. I understand as a man. I 164 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: understand as a friend. I understand he felt profoundly betrayed. 165 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: But he's not just that. He is that, but he's 166 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: also something else. He's the president of the United States, 167 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: and sometimes the president of the United States has to 168 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: have a certain amount of self control and self restraint 169 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: for the good of his agenda, for the good of 170 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: his presidency, for the good of his party. And the 171 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 1: argument is that this has hurt Trump. It's undermind Trump, 172 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: And to just finish this, I'm getting literally emails to 173 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: this effect. Jeff, if Cooner Country is split right down 174 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: the middle, it shows you it was a self inflicted wound. 175 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: Cooner Country is ninety nine point nine behind Trump. So 176 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: if Cooner Country is right down the middle, riven fractured 177 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: fifty to fifty, maybe Trump put his foot in his mouth. 178 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: I'm just curious. What's your answer to that, Barry. 179 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 3: I kind of look at this way. If you say, well, 180 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 3: he stepped on a rake. He's been stepping on rake 181 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 3: since he got an office. This rake's everywhere. I agree 182 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 3: with the agenda. He wants to be successful. It doesn't 183 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 3: matter what he does because the media and the social 184 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 3: media and the people and the Democrats are going to 185 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 3: continue to run the same line. The problem, Jeff is 186 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 3: he's almost a year into his office and the day 187 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 3: he walked in again everything. It doesn't matter what he does. 188 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 3: I said before he could low he could lower grocery prices. 189 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 3: You and I would care about it, but the media 190 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 3: would spend it and the Amplification would spin it. Trump's 191 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 3: in a no win situation, and I keep saying this. 192 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 3: When he brings peace to Ukraine and the war in Ukraine, 193 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 3: he'll get criticized. He'll end the war in the Middle East, 194 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 3: He'll get criticized. He'll bring inflation down, He'll get criticized. 195 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 3: The jobs of foot will come out, Oh look good, 196 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 3: He'll get criticized. The man is literally he's surrounded by 197 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 3: a sea of rakes, and it doesn't matter what he does, 198 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 3: He's going to walk into one regardless because he's in 199 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 3: some simes, Jeff, he's playing in a no win situation 200 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 3: because the perception of him has never changed since the 201 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 3: day he won his first term, and it gets amplified 202 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 3: even more now. So this this is another uh. What 203 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 3: he said at Rob Reiner is another thing they're just 204 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 3: going to use against them. He could have said the 205 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 3: nicest thing possible. He could have said, rest in piece, 206 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 3: Robin Michelle Reiner, and the comments would have been you 207 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 3: hated them anyway, you hate him anyway. He could say 208 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 3: the nice thing. 209 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: You're a hypocrite, you're a phony, You're just another politician. 210 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: You say things you don't really mean, right, I mean, 211 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: that's let's be honest, Barry. That's if he said something nice, 212 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: they would have hit him. If he attacks him, they 213 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: would have hit him. 214 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 2: Barry. 215 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: Maybe the best thing would have been just to say nothing. 216 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: I want to give you ultimate final word. 217 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 2: Go Barry, it is. 218 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 3: This is gonna blow over and there'll be something else 219 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 3: they'll bring up, you know what I mean. My only 220 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 3: advice to him in to say this, because he doesn't 221 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 3: say it all the time. I know he speaks from 222 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 3: the cuff. But when he doubled down on this, he 223 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 3: should have been brutally honest and said that man wanted 224 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 3: me dead. That's all you got to do. Just tell 225 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 3: the media is going to spin it anyway, but you 226 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 3: talked about the Russia thing. Just spit it out. Tell 227 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 3: the truth. He helped fund the group to get your 228 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 3: throne in jail. He's been trying to Tory and jail 229 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 3: f is. And he was your friend for twenty five years. 230 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 3: Make it cluded everybody across the United States of America 231 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 3: in the world. But the people you think, who ain't 232 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 3: you were your friend for twenty five years. That makes 233 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,599 Speaker 3: them look bad. It makes them look like the hypocrites. 234 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: Barry, Barry, is this your first time calling before? Bat Barry? 235 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 1: Don't be a stranger my friend. Call more often and 236 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: very merry Christmas, Barry, Thank you so much for that call. 237 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: Nancy on the North Shore. Thanks for holding Nancy and welcome. 238 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 4: Thank you, Jef. Can you hear me. 239 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: Loud and clear? Go ahead, Nancy? 240 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 4: Okay, So my issue is I don't care what Trump says, 241 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 4: I don't care what Rob Reiner says. People are missing 242 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 4: the biggest, most horrific point in this is that son 243 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 4: was a drug addict and severely mentally ill. Should we 244 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 4: say it, Lizzie Borden took an axe. I mean that 245 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 4: went down in infamy. Nobody cared what Lizzie Borden's parents, 246 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 4: you know, political affiliation is this kid was severely mentally ill, 247 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 4: severely a drug addict, and people should be focusing on 248 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 4: helping those people. Even Rob Winer said, I can't help 249 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 4: my kid even with all the money. 250 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 3: In the world. 251 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 4: We need to focus on that. Two cases in points. 252 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 4: Look at the friends guy, you know, drug overdose, you know, 253 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 4: and was fueled by by drugs and you know, uh 254 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 4: what the call doctors given him that stuff. He had 255 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 4: all the money in the world, He could have gone 256 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 4: himself sober. What about the I don't know if it 257 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 4: was the ex mayor or city council down the new 258 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 4: Medstane walking down the street, Alonatik jumps out stabs him 259 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 4: in the neck. He literally almost died. And he came 260 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 4: out and said, we've got to take these people off 261 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 4: the street. We got to get the asylums back. And 262 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 4: Reidner had a kid on that compound. He could have 263 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 4: been walking amongst any of us. The amount of rage 264 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 4: that you have to stab both your parents to death 265 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 4: is horrific, and nobody is focusing on that. I don't 266 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 4: care about politics. The drugs and the mental in the 267 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 4: illness in this country is rampant, and Trump needs to 268 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 4: address that. That's what he needs to post is that 269 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 4: this is a horrible thing that should never ever have 270 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 4: happened to anybody, and I'm going to do something about it. 271 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: Well, that's an excellent point. I mean, that's an absolutely 272 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: excellent point. And in fact, he could have said, now 273 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: you know why I'm blowing all these boats out of 274 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: the water, right and you know, in the Caribbean, and 275 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: I'm trying to stop the flow from Venezuela and from 276 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: Colombia and from Mexico, and because I don't want to 277 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: see more instances of what just happens. Say to Rob 278 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: Reiner and his wife Michelle Nancy, I want. 279 00:15:58,360 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 2: To ask you this. 280 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: From everything I've read, and nobody knows what really happens 281 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: inside a family, right, we're just all outsiders. But apparently 282 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: this goes back seventeen years. Yes he was in rehab 283 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: in and out all the time. Yes he suffered from 284 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: mental health issues. But apparently the son felt he could 285 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: never live up to the father. That the father was 286 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: very prolific, he just couldn't live up to it. That 287 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: he felt the father neglected him, that the father was 288 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: more involved in political activism in his career than caring 289 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: about his son. His son hated him, felt ignored neglected 290 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: by him. You know, is it just drugs? You said 291 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: it for you to kill your own father and your 292 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: own mother. I don't think it's just the drugs. I mean, 293 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but yeah, I know some addicts 294 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: can be violent. Jeff Kuhner, Boston's bulldozer six one seven 295 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: two six sex six sixty eight is the number. 296 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 2: Okay. 297 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: This is a text my personal phone from my wonderful 298 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 1: sister in law. She lives in Scottsdale, Arizona, And so 299 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 1: the whole family's now weighing in. My sister's weighed in 300 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: Grays has weighed in, and now Laurie has weighed in. 301 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: And this is what Laurie wrote to me. Jeff rob 302 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: Reiner's politics were vile, regardless his murder and that of 303 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: his wife was tragic. Trump's comments will only continue to 304 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: put targets on the backs of innocent conservatives like Ella Cook. 305 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: For those of you that don't know who Ella Cook is, 306 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: she was the first victim that was killed by the 307 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: mass shooter at Brown University on Saturday. 308 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 2: She was the head. 309 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: Of the or the vice president of the Young Republicans, 310 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: the only conservative group on Brown University's campus. So Laurie says, 311 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: this will continue to put targets on people like innocent 312 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: conservatives like Ella Cook. You don't need to be a 313 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: statesman to get this given recent violent events, Our humanity 314 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: as individuals made in the image and likeness of God 315 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:30,959 Speaker 1: should always come first. True change, Jeff, will only occur 316 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: if we behave and speak in contrast to the radical 317 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: left and not to start becoming like them. Interesting Sheldon 318 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: in situate, Thanks for holding Sheldon and welcome. 319 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 2: Wow. 320 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 5: I can't say it better than your sister in law 321 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 5: just said it, But first of all, I have to 322 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 5: say this, Jeff, Your bumper music is the best in 323 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 5: the business. We all have to agree on that. 324 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 2: Oh thank you, that's Mike. 325 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: But I wish you hadn't said that. He's already got 326 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: a swollen head. His head's just going to get bigger. 327 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: Now you're empowering a monster, Sheldon, Jeff, go ahead, go ahead, 328 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: my friend. 329 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:25,719 Speaker 5: This past weekend, we witnessed the tragic shooting in BONDI beats, 330 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 5: we watched what happened in Providence, and then we watch 331 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 5: parents be killed by their own son. There's mental illness, 332 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 5: there's hate, there's evil in this world. And you said 333 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 5: earlier that we have to judge Trump by his actions. 334 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 5: I agree with that those of us that have voted 335 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 5: for him. I understand what you're saying, but we want 336 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 5: that agenda to continue, not just for three years, but 337 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 5: for thirty years. We want thirty years of putting our 338 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 5: country back to what it needs to be, and comments 339 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 5: like that are not helpful in doing so. I get 340 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 5: it to Rob. Ryaner and him didn't agree on anything. 341 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 5: They do have one thing in common, they're both parents. 342 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 5: All he had to do was come out and say, listen, 343 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 5: I don't agree with him at all, but he's a parent. 344 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 5: We need to be better in this country. But to 345 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 5: come out and say that simply pour gasoline on the fire. 346 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 5: And it's simply tit for tat with people that, yes, 347 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 5: they're always going to go low, and we need to 348 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 5: be way better than that. We need to make America 349 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 5: civil and understanding and respectful and try and win some 350 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,959 Speaker 5: of them, not all of them, but some of them 351 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 5: over to our side. 352 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: Sheldon, I'm just curious. Do you think that there will 353 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: be any damage to Trump from this or do you 354 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: think you know, it's happened in the past. He said 355 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 1: some things, It created a big firestorm, massive backlash, but 356 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: then people move on whatever, They forget about it, or 357 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: it ends up, you know, sound and fury signifying nothing. 358 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: Do you think this time he's hurt himself or do 359 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: you think this will blow over like it has in 360 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: the past. 361 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 5: I think both is going to happen. Yes, he's hurt 362 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 5: himself again with not with those of us that have 363 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 5: voted for him over and over again, but with those 364 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 5: that hate him. They won't listen to anything you have 365 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 5: to say. 366 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 2: Now. 367 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 5: They'll say, look at what he said about a guy 368 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 5: that was killed by his own kid. The problem is 369 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,719 Speaker 5: it's just another brick in the wall. Dividing us is 370 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 5: the issue, in my opinion, when we should be looking 371 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 5: to tear down that wall. 372 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 3: You know that. 373 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 5: I look at Ruth Bader Ginsberg and Stealia. They disagreed, 374 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 5: but they found common ground. Reagan and Tip O'Neil disagreed 375 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 5: but found common ground. We no longer try and find 376 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 5: common ground. We just try and crush the other side 377 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 5: as much as we can. And liberal is much more 378 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 5: so than conservatives. But it's a frustrating place we are 379 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 5: in this country when when the leader of the free 380 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 5: war comes out with that comment instead of trying to 381 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 5: unite us in some way. 382 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 2: I hear you. 383 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 1: I hear you, Sheldon, very wise words, Sheldon, thank you 384 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: very much for that call. 385 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 2: Okay, let me squeeze one more. 386 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: In Lois in Pennsylvania, Lois, I hate to do this 387 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 1: to you. 388 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 2: I've got one minute. The floor is yours. 389 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 4: Go. 390 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 6: Okay. Trump was telling the truth. I'm glad he was 391 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 6: able to respond to it. Now he can close the 392 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 6: book on it. People have no idea what that man 393 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 6: went through, and they expect him to stand. 394 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 3: Up and just ignore it. 395 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 6: Sorry, that's why I love Donald Trump the way he is. 396 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: So you're saying, don't apologize, don't retract. He said what 397 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: he had to say and just move on. 398 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 2: Correct. 399 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 3: There you go. 400 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: Yep, Lois, thank you very much for that call. I 401 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: really appreciate it. Okay, honestly outstanding show.