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Speaker 1: Fifty five KRCV Talks Station, Happy Wednesday, empower You America

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Speaker 1: dot orgs where you find all the wonderful empower You

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Speaker 1: seminar series, and joining me this morning here on the

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Speaker 1: fifty five krc Morning Show, Janis Heisel. By way of background,

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Speaker 1: she mainly writes in depth reports based on US political

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Speaker 1: news and cultural trends. Following a two year stint covering

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Speaker 1: President Donald Trump's twenty twenty four reelection campaign. She's with

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Speaker 1: market You'll be glad you did. She's there and she's

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Speaker 1: worked more than two decades as a reporter here in

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Speaker 1: Ohio for local newspapers. Also the author of multiple books.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the program, Janis Heisel. It is a real

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Speaker 1: pleasure to have you on, and I love the subject

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Speaker 1: matter of your seminar tomorrow night at seven pm.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Thank you for that great intro. Happy to do it.

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Speaker 1: Listen. You know I appreciate what you're doing over at

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Speaker 1: the Times. It's an outstanding source of information, one of

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Speaker 1: the sites that I do rely on for preparation of

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Speaker 1: the fifty five Krosy Morning Show. I'm appreciative of you

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Speaker 1: being there, and I love the fact that you're doing

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Speaker 1: a seminar on the fraud in Minnesota, just the tip

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Speaker 1: of the fraud iceberg in this country when you consider

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Speaker 1: literally billions and billions of dollars in fraud, waste, and

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Speaker 1: abuse in one city. One And as I wake up

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Speaker 1: this morning, I read the CBS News account They're looking

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Speaker 1: at hospices out in California and at Los Angeles County,

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Speaker 1: another hotbed of obvious fraud. Are we ever going to

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Speaker 1: get to the bottom of this anyway? Pivoting over to Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: It's incomprehensible. And what I learned about this, and correct

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Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, janis the estate officials were painfully

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Speaker 1: aware of this fraud going on and yet did nothing

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Speaker 1: to stop it when they knew what was going on.

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Speaker 1: It's they either enabled it or they were benefiting from it.

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Speaker 1: I can't come out any conclusion yet.

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Speaker 2: We know that was precisely the topic of a hearing

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Speaker 2: that I covered. The Oversight Committee recently had both Governor

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Speaker 2: Tim Walls and the Attorney General Keith Ellison in there

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Speaker 2: for testimony, and they were confronting with the findings that

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Speaker 2: they had by doing many many planes, putting over thirty

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Speaker 2: whistleblowers who worked for garment agencies in Minnesota. And they

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Speaker 2: were like, look, you know, for example, you knew they

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Speaker 2: told governor in twenty twenty about concerned one specific organization,

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Speaker 2: yet you didn't stop the payments. Why And then they

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Speaker 2: also confronted him our own Jim Jordan here and another representative.

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Speaker 2: He said, why didn't you tell the truth to him?

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Speaker 2: Walls when he the public Walls did and said, we

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Speaker 2: restarted pment to that same organization because the judge made us.

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Speaker 2: But the judge had actually issued a rare public seatment

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Speaker 2: it's still available online from twenty twenty two, saying I

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Speaker 2: never issued such an order and reporting this.

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Speaker 1: Judges never do that.

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Speaker 2: It was very rare. And that was a moment during

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Speaker 2: the hearing for sure, when Jim Jordan said, why didn't

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Speaker 2: you tell the truth? And Walter's response he said, uh, well,

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Speaker 2: the agency believed that's what the court said. So but

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Speaker 2: the rest of this whole thing go so deep. And

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Speaker 2: that was one of the biggest things that I tried

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Speaker 2: to figure out. I've been to this Minnesota on reporting

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Speaker 2: trips more times than I care about now. I alway

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Speaker 2: have joked that I should set up like a pup

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Speaker 2: tent and stay there with the ice protesters. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: but it might be a little dangerous. But so here

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Speaker 2: is one of the things that I think a lot

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Speaker 2: of people don't realize. I was asking myself, you know, yes,

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Speaker 2: we do have a fraud and a lot of other

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Speaker 2: places it's pretty much if you set up I've got

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Speaker 2: programmed people figure out a way to work this is.

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Speaker 2: But is it Is it worse in Minnesota. I'm not

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Speaker 2: sure on that one, but I wanted to know, is

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Speaker 2: there a climate, Is there an attitude here? Is there

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Speaker 2: a cultural kind of fact or that that is making

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Speaker 2: Minnesota fertile ground for fraud? And when I came to

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Speaker 2: realize after recording, was there is an ad Minnesota and

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Speaker 2: Ice and that attitude has to deal with particularly the

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Speaker 2: people who came to Minnesota came from like Norwegian anthet

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Speaker 2: in those yes, Scandinavia and in those countries, if you

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Speaker 2: do not help your neighbor, you may die in the

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Speaker 2: cold and things like that, and so that whole mentality

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Speaker 2: really went on steroids that they have some of the

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Speaker 2: most generous social programs in the country, but that means

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Speaker 2: guess what everybody's paid. And then they have an attitude, well,

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Speaker 2: we're not going to ask you why you need help,

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Speaker 2: because that's too embarrassing. We don't want to offend you.

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Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, we're also the people who

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Speaker 2: offer to provide that help also aren't questioned because oh,

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Speaker 2: that's insulting. They want to help, we should say accept.

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Speaker 2: And so you know when a company comes forward to

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Speaker 2: non supposedly in quotes air quotes, comes forward and said

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Speaker 2: I would like to provide these services, sure, and then

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Speaker 2: they don't get asked that many questions, and people who

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Speaker 2: try to quote unquote use services same thing. So that's

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Speaker 2: one component of this. Once again, I do not know

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Speaker 2: for certain whether per capita Minnesota has it worse than

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Speaker 2: other places, because a lot of this information is still emerging.

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Speaker 2: But if I were a betting woman, I would say

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Speaker 2: that yes, it either is the worst in the nation

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Speaker 2: in terms of per capita or it would rank right

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Speaker 2: up there.

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Speaker 1: Well, ranking right up there. That this can even happen,

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Speaker 1: This is American taxpayer dollars. I always like to point

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Speaker 1: this out. Janie Heizel Republicans, Democrats, Independence, Communist Marxists. If

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Speaker 1: they're working and they're paying taxes, their money has been stolen.

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Speaker 1: So this should be a bipartisan outrage and revolt and

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Speaker 1: demand to get this out of the system. Fraud, waste

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Speaker 1: and abuse is a problem. We've got national debt, we've

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Speaker 1: got money issues in this country. And hey, if we

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Speaker 1: just start here, this seems to be low hanging fruit.

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Speaker 1: Janice Heidel's doing this seminar. It's tomorrow night beginning at

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Speaker 1: seven pm. Log in from home or show up at

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Speaker 1: the Empower You Studio Seminar three hundred Great Oaks Drive.

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Speaker 1: And that's a fun place to be. And you're also

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Speaker 1: gonna be treated to the new laws to conceal Carrie

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Speaker 1: that may affect you with speaker Bob Jewel, so that

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Speaker 1: one and Janis Heizel on FRAUDAM Minnesota. Janis, thank you

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Speaker 1: for doing the work you're doing. Keep up the great

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Speaker 1: work at the epic times and I'm looking forward to

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Speaker 1: seeing the seminar tomorrow night.

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Speaker 2: Fitch, I think, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: It's been my pleasure. Janisizel, tomorrow night, seven pm. Make

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Speaker 1: sure you register. You're gonna log in from home. I

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Speaker 1: hope you had a chance to listen to the whole show.

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