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Speaker 1: We'll talk more about that game and about the Birds

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Speaker 1: nobody has ever been more at fault for anything than

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Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin is at fault for everything that's wrong with

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Speaker 2: It's just a fact. I don't want to hear that.

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Speaker 1: It's not Tomlin's fault. It is decidedly all Tomlin's fault. Now,

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Speaker 1: a little later, I'm gonna tell you why Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 2: This ain't no hiccup on a lie.

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Speaker 1: Don't know Dino to Tom Wins kid that played wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: He's online wanting to fight some bloggers and whatnot, who

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Speaker 1: have called for his dad to be fired, specifically this

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Speaker 1: name from barstool? Jersey Jerry, Jersey Jerry, who I thought

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Speaker 2: Jersey Jerry. He's the guy. Let me test my memory.

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Speaker 1: Oh, he's famous for overcoming a meth addiction and defecating

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Speaker 2: See.

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Speaker 1: I can only imagine how much bigger my career would

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Speaker 1: But yeah, do you know Tom I wants to fight him.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that tremendous? Wonder what Coach T thinks about that? Hey,

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Speaker 1: Coach T can't reel his own players in, why would

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Speaker 1: You can follow me on Twitter at Mark Madden X.

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Speaker 1: I'm joined now by Tommy Radio. Tom Even though I

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Speaker 1: to talk some about this Penn State football coaching search,

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Speaker 1: because they've really screwed the pooch obviously should not have

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Speaker 2: Nobody wants that job.

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Speaker 1: The sentimental favorite is Terry Smith, but he's just not

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Speaker 2: He's a career Division one assistant.

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Speaker 1: The recruiting sucks didn't get barely nobody in early signing.

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Speaker 2: Kids might leave if Smith isn't hired.

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Speaker 1: Some jimoke named Tony Rojas said ninety percent of the

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Speaker 1: We'll just get new players. If it won for Tony

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Speaker 1: Rojas and that gang suck it out loud, James Franklin

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Speaker 1: self there, Tony, Penn State ruined its program and it's

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Speaker 1: probably ruined it moving forward for a long time. Franklin

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Speaker 2: What's the look like now?

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Speaker 1: Like Brian dabol is like the only man standing unless

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Speaker 3: It really is amazing how fast it was proven how

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Speaker 3: It in the moment that right away, but right immediately

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I understand them making the move, but this

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Speaker 2: So they had a bad year this year. So what

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Speaker 3: Or if you were going to fire James Franklin, you

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Speaker 3: They had no plan when they fired Franklin. It was

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Speaker 1: Well, if you're looking for somebody who's not an a

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Speaker 3: Best win is Nebraska, who has completely crapped the bed

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Speaker 2: Why won't anybody take that job?

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's not possible for that to be a secure position.

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Speaker 1: Well, if Sexter could get all his clients paid elsewhere,

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Speaker 2: It's happening.

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Speaker 1: But nobody's gonna tell a client to not take a

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Speaker 3: Wrong and cause Sexton gets paid too, that benefits sex

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Speaker 2: Clients get money.

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Speaker 1: Feel bad saying Terry Smithson job because I like Terry

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Speaker 3: That's just foolish and the optics are just bad because

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Speaker 3: You're not changing anything. You're getting a lesser Franklin.

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Speaker 1: Tom did you agree with my opening statement that nobody

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Speaker 3: You know, I was trying to rack my brain about

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Speaker 1: He is the roster construction because that is the final say,

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Speaker 1: They never go to a quarterback exactly. But he is

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Speaker 1: the guy that drafted Kenny Pickett. Nobody else in that

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Speaker 1: Pickett the first round. Just him, nobody else in the

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Speaker 3: And how many times have we said it, if you

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Speaker 3: Like this should be the last year on Kenny Pickett.

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Speaker 3: him if he the guy or he didn't make it

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Speaker 1: Well, Tom you know what I see the Tomlin situation

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Speaker 1: in common, they're both hilarious.

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Speaker 2: One five to nine the X it's the Mark Man

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Speaker 2: d correction. I did have.

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Speaker 2: No report from Steelers practice hit. TJ.

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Speaker 1: Well, they're all great, But then again I give myself

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Speaker 3: That offensive philosophy that he wants feeds back into his defense.

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Speaker 3: It's all about the defense. Defense. Defense. The middle of

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Speaker 1: I feel bad for him because I always thought he

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Speaker 1: but nobody's told him the bus just isn't coming.

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Speaker 3: It's definitely not what he imagined. I know for a

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Speaker 1: Funny you mention that, because because uh, Back to the

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Speaker 1: Future has been on AMC SEE a lot.

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Speaker 2: All the time. It is.

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Speaker 2: One of my favorite movies ever.

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Speaker 1: But but the over acting is just over the top.

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Speaker 1: By Doc Brown, you mean everybody. I think it's great.

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Speaker 2: It's like a movie within the first movie playing out.

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Speaker 3: It's just then the third ones in the West. Did

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Speaker 2: No Tannin.

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Speaker 1: Although I will say this, if I had gotten the

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Speaker 1: what was Doc Bron's credo? You can't you can't, you

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Speaker 1: can't change the past?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? For profit, right, exactly profit. I would have done

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Speaker 3: You wanted a Mark Madden's pleasure palace like Biff Tannon's

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Speaker 1: I would have made Biff Tannon's pleasure palette look like

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Speaker 1: a monument to good taste.

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Speaker 2: Five nine.

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Speaker 4: It's the Ex's kick Ass The Show with Highly Suspect Tuesday,

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Speaker 4: December nights at stay Je. It's your tickets now at

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Speaker 4: WXDX dot com. Okay, Highly Suspects with Flight Attendant. Tis

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Speaker 4: the season two The Jolly Party Rocking Something. It's the

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Speaker 4: Exits kick Ass Christmas Show from one oh five to nine.

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Speaker 2: D X tis this season double m on the X.

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Speaker 2: The Penguins visit Tampa tonight.

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Speaker 1: Tampa tied for the most points in the NHL, won

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Speaker 1: eight of their last ten, but the Penguins only three

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Speaker 1: everything so skewed. Tampa got Jake Genzil, a bunch of

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Speaker 1: old guys. Koocher Off tied for ninth in the league

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Speaker 1: I love that one. At Philadelphia on Monday five to one,

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Speaker 1: It was more glorious than D Day. You gotta keep

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Speaker 1: his prime at thirty one, and he built great chemistry

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Speaker 1: with see it. But I think he's the kind of

441
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Speaker 1: instinctive offensive player that can find it with just about

442
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Speaker 1: anybody of even similar skill.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's definitely proving if there were any doubters

445
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 3: still out there that he was a product of Sydney Crosby,

446
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 3: that that isn't entirely the case at all. Be a

447
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 3: thirty goal scorer this year, probably for Tampa Bay, just

448
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 3: an absolute. He's a fun player to watch because of

449
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,959
Speaker 3: how small he is. He should not be, you know,

450
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,400
Speaker 3: as grimy as he is kind of and as physical

451
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 3: as he can be, or at least willingness to take

452
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Speaker 3: that shocked.

453
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Speaker 1: He's not been more severely hurt because of his willingness

454
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Speaker 1: to play and ability to play in tight quarters.

455
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Speaker 2: But he just knows how to score.

456
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Speaker 1: Then again, he's playing for an old team that probably

457
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 1: won't win again. I could see them having like a

458
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Speaker 1: run win a series or two, but I think they're

459
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Speaker 1: too old to win four series in the springtime. Not

460
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Speaker 1: that I would count that out. But Jake didn't go

461
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,400
Speaker 1: there to win again. Jake went there because pretty good team,

462
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,639
Speaker 1: but went for the money and for no state income tax.

463
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Speaker 2: He already won his cup here.

464
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're living in Tampa Bay, Florida, no income tax

465
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 3: for sure, and you're right, he's gonna play playoff hockey still,

466
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 3: Like they're not so bad that it's gonna be seasons

467
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 3: over at the middle of April. You'll get to play

468
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Speaker 3: into may probably win a couple of rounds. They do

469
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Speaker 3: have that kind of you know, in their back pocket,

470
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Speaker 3: having one of the elite goalies still or maybe a

471
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Speaker 3: fringe elite goal He.

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Speaker 1: Well, he's actually having I mean, he's great, right, he

473
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,439
Speaker 1: never went away Vassie, but this year's goals against it

474
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Speaker 1: says here two point three to one, and he's unper

475
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Speaker 1: than I thought. He's only thirty one. If they win

476
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Speaker 1: again or even come close to Vassie's gonna be the reasons.

477
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Speaker 2: It's on his back.

478
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Speaker 1: He's the best goal of his generation and to me

479
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Speaker 1: maybe one of the top five of all time, top

480
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 1: ten for sure.

481
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,640
Speaker 3: And they have offensive firepower. We talked about Genseil. Hegel's

482
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 3: got fifteen goals this year. Kucherov obviously is still doing

483
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 3: his thing. But their win streak, you know, they won

484
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Speaker 3: seven straight before losing to the Aisles on Tuesday. It

485
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 3: was on the back of their goaltending. In Vassileski, they

486
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 3: get up like one point five goals against in their past,

487
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Speaker 3: like eight games.

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Speaker 2: It's insane. Yeah, Jake's married.

489
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Speaker 1: So we didn't go to Tampa for the for the

490
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Speaker 1: thrill of Mon's Venus, or maybe he did, I don't know.

491
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Speaker 2: I mean, who knows what he does in spare time.

492
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Speaker 1: Although Mon's Venus as great as it is, I mean,

493
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Speaker 1: holy fray holies, talk about Nactino heat the Tangle Lounge, Tom,

494
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 1: there was a Hall of Fame place no longer there,

495
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Speaker 1: but the Tangle Loannge had grit and character. If Tom

496
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Speaker 1: mcmill is listening, he could tell you, Now, how'd you

497
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Speaker 1: like the kid line in Philadelphia kindle between coyvenan and McGroarty.

498
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Speaker 3: I know they didn't show up on the score sheet,

499
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 3: but they were flying all over the ice. And boy,

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Speaker 3: I just hate how snake bitten coyvenan is to start

501
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 3: the season, But I thought he had so much jump

502
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 3: in that game in Philadelphia too. And don't you think

503
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 3: McGroarty played like a guy who's like, I'm done going

504
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 3: back to the Ahl, I'm a penguin now moving forward.

505
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Speaker 3: He looked like he belonged and he wanted to belong.

506
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Speaker 3: So I love the kid line. It's gonna be an

507
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Speaker 3: energy line for this team moving forward, and I think

508
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 3: it's only a matter of time before Kendall starts to

509
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Speaker 3: get coven in going.

510
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too.

511
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Speaker 1: I loved that game at Philly, and part of it

512
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: was that old man Katorier tried to f with Kindle

513
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: and Kendall just kept blowing him off. It was like

514
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,360
Speaker 1: an optake from dirty Grandpa, like the old bastard who

515
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 1: never won a thing, trying to get under the skin

516
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Speaker 1: of this young guy who has such a great future

517
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Speaker 1: in front of him. And just like Clifton with Zigris,

518
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Speaker 1: Kendall wouldn't bite when it came to Katorie.

519
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Speaker 3: And I also love that the Penguins are starting to

520
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 3: show a lot more sand like Jari when they would

521
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 3: try to crash the net, he'd throw the blocker out

522
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Speaker 3: of the Flyer and start to get a scrum going.

523
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Speaker 3: Blake Lazote, I mean, you gotta love Blake Lazart right

524
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 3: with a little Tomahawk chop. I love the Flyers fans

525
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 3: whining about that. In the same video they post him

526
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Speaker 3: whining he's getting face washed and elbowed by Halthaway into

527
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Speaker 3: the bed.

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Speaker 1: What he supposed to do? Yeah, No, I loved it.

529
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Speaker 1: Right in front of the bench. Nobody did a thing.

530
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Speaker 1: The flyers just ain't hard no more, just ain't tough

531
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Speaker 1: no more. Halthaway might not get hard for a while

532
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: after what Lazat did, but I definitely loved it.

533
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 2: Just dropped him. It was be beautiful.

534
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Speaker 1: Jari's in goal again tonight, third straight start. I assume

535
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Speaker 1: he's the number one goalie, however temporarily, and I don't

536
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: have fault with that either.

537
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Speaker 2: I don't just keep riding him.

538
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Speaker 3: He's played tremendously, and if he gets a win tonight

539
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 3: in Tampa Bay, I don't see why you don't just

540
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 3: throw him out there on Sunday again against Dallas. In Dallas,

541
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Speaker 3: just give him the whole road trip. There's two days

542
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Speaker 3: off again, so it's not like a rest issue at all.

543
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Speaker 3: And she loves hasn't been playing great, not saying pull

544
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Speaker 3: the plug on, she loves. I think he's still gonna

545
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Speaker 3: be a very good backup goalie for the Penguins for

546
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Speaker 3: a while, like I think he'll be Mushov's tandem in

547
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Speaker 3: a backup goalie. But he needs maybe a little bit

548
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Speaker 3: of a reset point, So I just keep playing Jari

549
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 3: as long as he's hot.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's my only problem with playing Jari tonight and

551
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 1: against Sunday. I don't want to buy into making the playoffs.

552
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: Is this huge priority to the point where certain guys

553
00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: have their roles disappear, and that includes Shilloffs. Like you said,

554
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: is very likely to be the partner for Morishoff next

555
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 1: season if indeed Dry keeps playing well and you could

556
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: trade him, which would be like a dream come true

557
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 1: and probably for Jari too if he went to Edmonton.

558
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, I think that that's something that both parties

559
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 3: would be welcoming. Jarry could use a fresh start, even

560
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 3: though he's playing well in Pittsburgh. Edmonton's a perfect spot

561
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Speaker 3: for him, no doubt. You mentioned this, though there's a

562
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Speaker 3: little bit too much weight being assigned to that. Though,

563
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Speaker 3: don't you think what he did with the Edmonton oil

564
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Speaker 3: King and winning there and like that would mean anything

565
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Speaker 3: to go into Edmonton and winning for the Oilers, Now

566
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Speaker 3: that's a little too much. I think that they assigned

567
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Speaker 3: credit to that.

568
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Speaker 2: I think that's probably true.

569
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Speaker 1: But to make a get of a goaltender seem like

570
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Speaker 1: it would be this final step in getting the Oilers

571
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Speaker 1: over the top to sell it to the fans. Something

572
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: like that definitely wouldn't hurt because they would remember. But

573
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Speaker 1: if they would get Jarry, it's not because Jarry's great.

574
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Speaker 1: It would be because he's average, caught fire at a

575
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Speaker 1: time when when you know, it seemed like a good idea,

576
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: I mean any port in a storm. And by that,

577
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: I mean there's barely any good goalies in the league period,

578
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 1: let alone any that's available. So but you're right, the

579
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Speaker 1: actual weight of him having won a Memorial Cup, a

580
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: junior championship in Edmonton, that that shouldn't have bearing except

581
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: in terms of the stories written about it and what's

582
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: said about it.

583
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Speaker 3: But if he keeps playing this well in that trade

584
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Speaker 3: deadline approaches, I mean, Edmonton's got to look at him

585
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 3: and say, that's better than Skinner, right, or at least

586
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 3: offers the potential to be better than what we've had

587
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Speaker 3: with Skinner in the past couple of playoff runs. Although

588
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 3: Edmonton's got to worry about making the playoffs, Mark, I mean,

589
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 3: they're like six games under true five hundred.

590
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: Right now, oh no, no, no question. But but but

591
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: they'll make it. Yeah, then again that West, I mean,

592
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, but yeah, they'll make it. Maybe they

593
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: need to get Jarry sooner or not later, just to

594
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Speaker 1: get him in the playoffs. But you know, you know

595
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Speaker 1: one thing I don't like too is the revisionist history,

596
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 1: Like that boy Jari's really showing us Like I think

597
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: it was the Penguin's Uh, Twitter had like a a jip.

598
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 2: Of him, like smirking, like Tristan Jarry.

599
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: Now, he didn't get sent to Wilkes last year because

600
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: he lost the game of paper rock scissors. He lost

601
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: because he couldn't have stopped you know, a beach ball

602
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 1: with a pitchfork.

603
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Speaker 3: What do you think we could look back at that

604
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 3: as a as a serious turning point for his career,

605
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 3: like it actually the moment that got through to him,

606
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 3: because it seemed like nothing was going to get through

607
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 3: to Jarry. I mean you've said it yourself bluntly on

608
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 3: the show. You think he's kind of dumb, like just

609
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 3: he's not a smart person. Nothing was getting through to him.

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Speaker 3: Do you think riding the bus for a little bit,

611
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 3: that embarrassment of the ahl finally was something that broke

612
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 3: him a little bit and was like, I gotta get

613
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Speaker 3: my act together more.

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Speaker 1: Those busses aren't aren't that bad. They're they're comfortable buses,

615
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: and I'm sure it's fun to some degree.

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00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's we talked about. This is not like

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Speaker 3: gooon where there's a hole in the back that you

618
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 3: have to pee through. There's like an actual bathroom on there,

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Speaker 3: I think, but.

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Speaker 2: We do agree that this isn't efing baseball nine X.

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Speaker 1: for today's trifectam?

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Speaker 3: I'm very excited for today's trifecta mark because it is

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Speaker 3: National Cookie Day.

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Speaker 1: So today was a layup top three cookies. Now that

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Speaker 1: that sucks because like kinny cookies. I'm doing a wake

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Speaker 1: of one to eighty. But you, by the way, I

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Speaker 1: am poised to dip under three hundred pounds for the

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Speaker 1: first time in.

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Speaker 2: Well quite a while. That's amazing, especially not if you

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Speaker 2: can't have cookies.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're doing it through this holiday season too,

645
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 3: which is crazy because it's just there's temptation everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Well, I took a break on Thanksgiving, you gonna take that.

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Speaker 1: We'll take a break on Christmas, even Christmas.

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Speaker 3: Day as well for some cookies absolutely have to on

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Speaker 3: Christmas Eve. My number three favorite cookie, I'm gonna go

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Speaker 3: with a brand name cookie here. I'm going with an Oreo.

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00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 3: I love a good oreo. Dip it in milk. It's

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Speaker 3: fantastic around the Christmas season to chocolate cover those bad

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Speaker 3: boys up.

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Speaker 2: They're great. I love the chocolate covered version.

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Speaker 1: Although I'm more likely to enjoy Oreos in the context

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Speaker 1: of like Oreos ice cream or Oreo pie, like.

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Speaker 2: An Eaton Park. Of the Oreo cream pie at Eating

658
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Speaker 2: Park is in the Oreo itself. I like.

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Speaker 1: I like what oreos are used for, probably a little

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Speaker 1: bit more than the actual cookie.

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Speaker 3: Are you a fan of the fried oreo not overkill me. Okay,

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Speaker 3: number two for me, I'm gonna go with the Eminem

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Speaker 3: cookie now.

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Speaker 2: No question. I left the chocolate Number one would be.

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Speaker 3: I left the chocolate chip cookie off the list. I

666
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Speaker 3: love a chocolate chip cookie. Yeah, it's not number one

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Speaker 3: for me. I think eminem and chocolate chip kind of

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Speaker 3: overlap a little bit to me. Honestly, they're very similar cookies. Agreed, Okay,

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Speaker 3: fair enough, so that would be your number one is

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Speaker 3: chocolate chip. It's a war between chocolate chip. Well, number

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Speaker 3: one for me is the thumb print sugar cookies. You

672
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Speaker 3: know what I'm talking about, Like those little thumb prints

673
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Speaker 3: with the icing globs in the middle of them and

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Speaker 3: the sprinkles around the Hershey's kiss. No, that's not what

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about. I'm talking about the icing frosted ones.

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Speaker 3: They are little like icing.

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Speaker 2: I go with what you're talking about with the Hershey's kissing.

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Speaker 3: Instead, you want to do the hershy kiss one, that's

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Speaker 3: your number one.

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Speaker 1: No, Eminem's will be my number one. Chocolate chip would

681
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Speaker 1: be my number two. What we're talking about now, the

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Speaker 1: thumb print with the Hershey's kiss would be number three.

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Speaker 3: Now, you don't really see the hershey kiss one other

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Speaker 3: than Christmas season, correct, It's all right, the one that

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Speaker 3: I like, Number one you see around you know, Fourth

686
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Speaker 3: of July. It's a year round kind of Oh yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I have never.

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Speaker 2: I have never.

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Speaker 1: I'm a cookie with the fourth of July holiway, I'm

690
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Speaker 1: just saying, it's all over the place.

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Speaker 3: It covers all holidays. This cookie that I'm talking about,

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Speaker 3: this sugar cookie with the glob of icing in the

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Speaker 3: middle of it.

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Speaker 2: I'll pull up a picture and you'll see it. You'll

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Speaker 2: recognize it.

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Speaker 1: There got to be some kind of cookie where there's

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Speaker 1: a cookie called a nuth horn that I really love.

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Speaker 2: But I forget what's in the nutthorn. I just know

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Speaker 2: that it's great. I'm not a really big that kind

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Speaker 2: of folded over dough on something.

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Speaker 3: I'm not a really huge fan of nuts in cookies

702
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Speaker 3: and nuts in my dessert.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 3: These are kind of like the glob icings that I'm

705
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 3: talking about, the one on the left there, the green

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Speaker 3: and red ones.

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Speaker 2: Or is I just don't buy into it. Not into

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Speaker 2: those cookies, okay, fair enough.

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Speaker 1: Okay, not horn Whilst there's walnut horns, butter horns or

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00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: Kiffley traditional Eastern European and Hungarian crescent shaped pastry featuring

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Speaker 1: a tender, flaky dough wrapped around a sweet spice nut filling.

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Speaker 3: Now, are you a fan that doesn't sound too bad

713
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Speaker 3: even for somebody that doesn't like that stuff?

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Speaker 4: Do you?

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Speaker 3: Are you a fan of oatmeal raisin.

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Speaker 1: I'm a fan of oatmeal more than just more than

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Speaker 1: I prefer just oatmeal period.

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Speaker 3: Is it fair to say that the oatmeal raisin cookie

719
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Speaker 3: might be the most polarizing cookie there is.

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Speaker 2: You either love it or you hate it. You know

721
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 2: what that is?

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Speaker 1: The taste in quality of the oatmeal raisin cookie depends

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Speaker 1: solely on one thing, and that is the quality of

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Speaker 1: the raisin.

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00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 2: Bad raisin just throws.

726
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: The bad cookie. You get those chewy, kind of sour raisins.

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00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: It ruins the cookie.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not a fan of oatmeal raisin cookies. I

729
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Speaker 3: fall on the side of the fence that I actually

730
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Speaker 3: hate those cookies, but they are very popular for a

731
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Speaker 3: lot of people.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand it.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's the trifact that brought to us by Danny's

734
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Speaker 1: Peter and Hogies. Pittsburgh's original of them, baked Togy Since

735
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Speaker 1: nineteen sixty. That's Danny's en Route eighty eight in Bethel Park. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I missed another significant like food day because of this diet.

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Speaker 1: It was like National Pizza Day or National doughnut Day. Recently,

738
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Speaker 1: I'll give you an example. Tom connyet Lake did not

739
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Speaker 1: go to the Golden Dawn for doughnuts yesterday morning.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what you missed as far as a

741
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,959
Speaker 3: significant data is concerned, but it has been like a

742
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Speaker 3: parade of food in this office ever since you've been

743
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Speaker 3: on the dick.

744
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: Almost as if they figured out when I would be

745
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: on the dots, crazy bought stuff in specifically so I

746
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: could look it up but not eat it.

747
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 3: It's wild, but it feels like it's twice a week now.

748
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 3: I'm seeing somebody.

749
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Speaker 1: And we have the Steeler post game show left over

750
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: pizza every day during the season, as it.

751
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 2: Is the Calliente. That's right. I love that Calliente every

752
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 2: Sunday the best.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you we you know why because you guys

754
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: doing the show always eat the they send over like

755
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 1: one premium type of topping, then one real good type

756
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: of topping, then one. Derek be said for me. Anyway,

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00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: personal preference a lesser type of topping. And then by

758
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: the time you know, leftover day comes the day after

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00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: the Steeler game, all that stuff their bread sticks in

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00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: the third variety.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the variety like the meat lover one, the pepperoni

762
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Speaker 3: banana pepper one that's gone just crowmbs in the box, Yes, gone,

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Speaker 3: guilty Tom.

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Speaker 2: Do you see anyway the Steelers beat Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but it's solely based on how bad Baltimore has

766
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 3: looked lately, which is not a good place to be

767
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Speaker 3: when you're analyzing your own team. It's like, yeah, we

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00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 3: have a chance because the other team kind of stinks too.

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Speaker 3: You never want to be there. That's the only analysis

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00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,439
Speaker 3: that I can really drum up that gives me optimism, though,

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00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 3: is that fair.

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Speaker 2: Better than nothing? Like?

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Speaker 1: Like the last three games that Derek Henry's played against

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Speaker 1: the Steelers bucket eighty six, bucks sixty two, sixty five

775
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: yards in the sixty five yard game, remember when the

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00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,919
Speaker 1: Steelers like did manage to win a rock fight?

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Speaker 2: I think that was the first meeting of the team's

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00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 2: last year.

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00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: But Henry still averg five yards to carry And if

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Speaker 1: you'll remember, the big discussion after was as why did

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Speaker 1: Baltimore give the rock to Derrick Henry so.

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Speaker 2: Little one hundred percent.

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00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 3: It was like, Hey, you got Derrick Henry in the

784
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 3: offseason because the Steelers stopped Lamar Jackson. Then you tried

785
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 3: to beat the Steelers with Lamar Jackson again, what's the deal?

786
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 3: And they corrected that in the last two meetings the

787
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 3: last regular season, won in the wild card, and Henry

788
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 3: just flattened them. And I feel like people think Henry's

789
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 3: having kind of a slow year, and I guess by

790
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 3: his standards he is. He's nine on and thirty one

791
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 3: yards like he's going to go over one thousand this Sunday,

792
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 3: very likely.

793
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: And all he has to do is be good in

794
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: games like this to be worth it to the Ravens

795
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: down the stretch. Now, it's takes no question about.

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Speaker 2: That, all right.

797
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: This first hour the pregame show brought to us by

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Speaker 1: the personal injury expert Cinderrovid Cendrorovich and Fisherman.

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Speaker 2: They got your back, not your wallet.

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Speaker 1: In the open I think segment, I talked about why

801
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: nobody has ever been more at fault for what's wrong

802
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: with the Steelers, but Mike Tomlin is in fault for

803
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 1: what's wrong with the Steelers. Nobody's ever deserved blame more

804
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: than Mike Tomlin in this situation. But I'm gonna tell

805
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: you in just a few moments why it's been that

806
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: way for years. It really has been one oh five

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Speaker 1: nine the X.

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Speaker 2: Listen to the ex