1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: He's with Dan Ray WBS Boston's Radio. 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 2: I've asked Reverend Kevin Peterson of the New Democracy Coalition 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 2: to stay until the ten o'clock hour where we're talking 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 2: about Boston's murder triangle, as he and others have characterized that. 5 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: Kevin a lot of emotion from the family members of 6 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: Jakiah Lewis, But what we forget is that even since 7 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 2: the time she was shot, as you mentioned, there's some 8 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: other fatalities that have occurred. I want to continue with 9 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 2: callers and give you an opportunity to interact with them, 10 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 2: because I think this is such an important, important conversation 11 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: and I will be really disappointed if more people you 12 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: don't have to live in Roxbury, South End, Dorchester, Mattapan 13 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: or Arts of Hyde Park to be concerned about this, 14 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 2: because this is a This is a fundamentally. 15 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,199 Speaker 3: A fundamental situation that is clear. 16 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: You just just look at a map of Boston and 17 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 2: I'm looking at it right now on Universal Hub, and 18 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 2: it shows where the murders have taken place, and they're concentrated. 19 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: I wish, I wish it wasn't that way. But how 20 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 2: much support do you get, Reverend within within the community 21 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 2: you've been at this for a while. Obviously, there are 22 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: folks in the community who don't trust the police, and 23 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: I understand that there are people who probably are looking 24 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: at you and saying, we don't need more police, but 25 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: you need. 26 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 4: Something, You need something, And I would say that across 27 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 4: the board generally, there is a around what we have 28 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 4: been doing over the last three years in terms of 29 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 4: identifying the triangle but also suggesting solutions to the problem. 30 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 4: We weren't heavy handed in the wake of our report 31 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 4: with the police. We wanted them to use their expertise, 32 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 4: their capacity to develop a Boston specific strategy around addressing 33 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 4: the murder triangle. But in general, the people on the 34 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 4: ground and they're experiencing both the grief and they're seeing 35 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 4: the blood on the streets. Quite frankly, they see the 36 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 4: yellow tapes wrapped around certain areas across the triangle. They're 37 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 4: experiencing trauma that very few people can can imagine. What 38 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 4: we have been running into mostly has been the lack 39 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 4: of engagement by our leaders, black and white. No city 40 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 4: councilor has responded to the Murdered Triangle report, and specifically 41 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 4: the Black city councils or c any councilor of color 42 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 4: who represent the triangle. No response, and as I've said before, 43 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 4: the Cyny of Boston has been responded. So we have 44 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 4: to keep saying Jekiah Lewis's name, and with her name, 45 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 4: we also have to remember dan rayd Lois Brown, seventy 46 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 4: three year old woman murdered on our porch Saturday afternoon, 47 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 4: broad daylight. We have to remember Jamal Cox, thirty three 48 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 4: year old murdered on New Year's Day twenty twenty three. 49 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 4: Of course, we have to remember thirteen year old Tyler 50 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 4: Lawrence thirteen murdered on the street seven am on a 51 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 4: Sunday morning in front of one of Boston's largest Boston's 52 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 4: largest Black church. In that appearing on Bluehle Avenue. It's 53 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 4: gone on and on and on to the point that, 54 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 4: quite frankly, we should be collectively embarrassed, a shame for 55 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 4: ourselves in terms of our lack of response. I don't 56 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 4: want to take too much time because I know you 57 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 4: have people calling sure, no, no. 58 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: And I appreciate it, but again, you know, where is 59 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: the city council, Maheir? 60 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 3: Where is city councilor Warrell? Where where are all these. 61 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 2: City councilors who who they're always around in uh in 62 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 2: political campaigns. 63 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 3: We we we lost this. 64 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 4: I can't Yeah, I can't account for them. All I 65 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 4: can say to you, Dan is that they're not present. Uh, 66 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 4: as as as I've been trying to articulate this on 67 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,559 Speaker 4: behalf of other people. So this is not a Reverend 68 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 4: Kevin Peterson show. We have a you know, I have 69 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 4: numerous degrees, two masters and a doctor and working on 70 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 4: my secretary. So this comes out of research. I only 71 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 4: say that because it comes out of research and serious 72 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 4: study and application to this issue. And it comes from 73 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 4: the ground people who met on cold winter nights a 74 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 4: couple of years ago to offer up a plea, a 75 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 4: collective plea for their safety. And we had no former 76 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 4: response from those people whom they elected. 77 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 3: All right, let me let me go to phone calls. 78 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: Uh. We're gonna go to San Antonio, Texas. Dave is 79 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 2: a regular listener. Uh, And Dave, this is a this 80 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: is a Boston issue, uh that we're talking about tonight. 81 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 3: So please stay focused on Boston if you can for me. 82 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I intend to say you're focused on Boston. I 83 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 5: tend to stay focused on God because that is That 84 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 5: is the biggest problem. There is nobody going to fix 85 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 5: this problem, but God, nobody. We are engrossed in this 86 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 5: whole country with evil people, black, white, yellow, purple green, 87 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 5: whatever they are, but they're very, very evil. My son 88 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,239 Speaker 5: in law is a You wonder where all those guns 89 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 5: are coming from? A Boston my son in law is 90 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 5: Ice and he told me himself that Boston they had 91 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 5: a rag there in which they found thousands of guns, 92 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 5: not just drumps guns that they're running. They sell guns 93 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 5: illegally to this country too. That cartel walk through this country. 94 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 5: The cartel is infected every one of our cities. We 95 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 5: are engrossed, embraced by evil. 96 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 2: By the way, Dave, do me a favor I have, 97 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 2: And I'm not questioning your son in law, but I 98 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: followed the news here in Boston real. 99 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 3: Carefully, and you didn't hear about it. 100 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 5: A long time and you didn't hear about it, and 101 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 5: I'm not surprised. 102 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 3: Well, here's what you got to do for me. 103 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: Okay, I did not hear about it, and maybe Reverend 104 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 2: Peterson heard about it, but I didn't hear about it. 105 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if Reverend Peterson wants to back me 106 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: up on this one. But if you could have your 107 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 2: son in law call me privately, Rob will give you 108 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 2: my direct line, and he wants to tell me when 109 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 2: it occurred, and I will maintain the financiality of the 110 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 2: information and I'll break the story for you, which I've 111 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: done for many years here in Boston. But I'm just 112 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 2: telling you when when a gentleman who I know like 113 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: yourself calls from San Antonio with information about something of 114 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: that magnitude happening in Boston, I got to tell you. 115 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: I'll trust you, but first I want to verify. So 116 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 2: have your son in law called me, or he can 117 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 2: call you. 118 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 3: Give him. Give me the the time when this happened, 119 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 3: the date, even if it's an approximate date, and the location. 120 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 5: You got to give me the information to get back 121 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 5: to you, but I don't have that. You give me 122 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 5: the information. I'll get back to you fair enough. I 123 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 5: know you. 124 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 2: When you hang up, I'm not cutting you off. When 125 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: you hang up, Rob will give you my direct line. 126 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: You probably have it anyway, so you have. I'm just saying, 127 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 2: is that when you say thousands of guns, because that's 128 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: what you said, I would have heard about that. 129 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 3: Reverend. Have you ever heard of that. 130 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 4: That, yeah, I have. I have not specifically, but I 131 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 4: would say that there's an open secret within the black 132 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 4: community that guns are run into the black community and 133 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 4: they're fairly prevalent, which doesn't speak to the amount of 134 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 4: guns that your caller is talking about, but speaks to 135 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 4: a different level of crisis. We shouldn't have gun runners, 136 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 4: illegal guns on the streets. 137 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 5: Of Cartell is highly responsible for illegal guns sales, and 138 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 5: it's going to be true. 139 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you this, if this was what my point, 140 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: Dave is simple, if this was going on in some 141 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 2: of our more affluent suburbs and I won't name the suburbs, 142 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 2: it wouldn't be going on because if you had this 143 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: number of murders that's right, in these other communities, and 144 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: Reverend can will back me up on this, it would 145 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 2: have been addressed. And the fact that it hasn't been 146 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 2: addressed in Boston, and we've talked about it, Reverend Peterson 147 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 2: and I have talked about this for years is a 148 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 2: crime in of itself. 149 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 5: Well, I I just see the danger down here in Texas. 150 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 5: That's what I see. By what I I said. My 151 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 5: son in law's ice and he's uh, he talks to 152 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 5: me about the different I mean, it's all over the country. 153 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 3: They are you got, you got your assignment, Dave. 154 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 5: Okay, I will for you. 155 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 2: You let him know that that I'm the real deal. 156 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: I've been around and Reverend Peters is the real deal too, 157 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 2: and we'll we'll do his story since he's with me, 158 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 2: we'll do that together. Okay, you can take it to 159 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 2: the bank. All right, thanks Dave. All right, don't hang up. 160 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 2: Rob will give you my direct line, Reverend, stay there. 161 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: I got other callers for us here, six one seven. 162 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: The only line that's available right now is six one 163 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 2: seven nine three one thirty. This is a matter of 164 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 2: life and death. That's how serious this topic is. Because 165 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 2: I guarantee you that if this rate of homicide continues 166 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 2: in the Boston Triangle as described by Reverend Peterson, by 167 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 2: this time next week, there will be another young track 168 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 2: male dead on the stream. Sad to say, sad to say, 169 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 2: but it would be inevitable. It would be inevitable. 170 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 3: It has to end. Reverend quick comment for me before 171 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 3: we go to break. I feel like I'm running the 172 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 3: show here. 173 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 4: And that's fine. I appreciate the platform to talk about 174 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:41,599 Speaker 4: this immensely complicated subject. Let me just say just a 175 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 4: couple of the factorys that maybe lead to more conversation. 176 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 4: I've asked the Boston City Council, our policymakers to produce 177 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 4: the number the statistics related to open warrants within the Triangle. 178 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 4: They won't produce. It suppose to republic information open warrants 179 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 4: people who commit crimes over and over and over again 180 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 4: in some cases in our in our community. And have 181 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 4: also asked the police department to give us a comprehensive view, 182 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 4: a comprehensive perspective of arrest rates and convention rates related 183 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 4: to the murders. And that hasn't been forthcoming. 184 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 5: Uh Uh. 185 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 4: It's an attempt in some ways, I think, to conceal 186 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 4: the level of crisis that we're experiencing on the ground 187 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 4: here in the Triangle. 188 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 2: Well, they all the all the politicians now, as you know, Reverend, 189 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 2: the keyword is transparency. Well, I'm going to be the 190 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 2: most transparent this they've ever elected. And once they get 191 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 2: in there, that transparency disappears. Uh And and that's where 192 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 2: that's where we're fighting, and we'll we'll fight with you 193 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 2: on this one. It's as simple as that the same 194 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 2: politicians who do not want to be audited by the 195 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 2: state auditor are the same politicians who don't want to 196 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 2: provide transparency. It's a nice, quiet little club. And ironically, 197 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 2: and I think it's important to say that we haven't 198 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 2: had a white mayor in Boston since Marty Walsh. 199 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 3: We have a minority police commissioner, we've had previously minority 200 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 3: US Attorney Rachel Rawlins, we have a minority district Attorney 201 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 3: UH in Suffolk County. 202 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 2: And why why they are not responding to me is 203 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 2: just mystifies me. Just mystifies me. Let's take a quick break, Reverend. 204 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 2: I'd be right back. We have a couple of other relatives, 205 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 2: and we'll also talked with Joey an East Boston. She 206 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 2: will be next on Nightside, The Only Line six one. 207 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 2: Be right back one night time. 208 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. 209 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 2: My guest Reverend Kevin Peterson of the New Democracy Coalition. 210 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 2: He's talking about the murder triangle in Boston and if 211 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 2: you happen to live there, the chances of you being 212 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 2: shot or killed, particularly if you happen to be a 213 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 2: young black male, substantially higher. Then if you live in 214 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 2: a lot of other communities. Let me go next to Joanne, 215 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 2: who lives in East Boston. Joanne, thank you for calling in. 216 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 2: You're next with Reverend Kevin Peterson. 217 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 6: Go right ahead, Hey, Reverend Hayden, I've called a few 218 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 6: times on different issues. Yes, Chikaia Lewis will never forget 219 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 6: her name now that I know more. I'm a social 220 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 6: worker here and ask General Hospital, and I work with 221 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 6: a lot of patients who have had family members who 222 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 6: have been in violent crimes or murdered or founded. 223 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 4: Through drug abuse. 224 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 6: And the one thing that I constantly tried to do 225 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 6: is reach out to elected officials and I get, oh, yeah, 226 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 6: we'll call you back, and they never do. From Presley, 227 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 6: who I've called several times, to the mayor, to my 228 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 6: city councilors, no one falls us back, no one. 229 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: And I'm a social. 230 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 6: Worker here and I'm trying to help victims recover. And 231 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 6: PTSD is huge in Boston in our communities that this 232 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 6: PTSD is so severe, and these kids that are getting 233 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 6: shot and walking around, you know, with with violent crimes 234 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 6: right behind their doorsteps. We need more mental health, but 235 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 6: we also need more protection. And we are soft on 236 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 6: crime here. In Boston, and I am not one of 237 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 6: the Mayor's fans at all. We are not the safest 238 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 6: city in the in the in the area. We are 239 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 6: probably high on crime, the soft on prosecution, and they 240 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 6: know who the people are. But you know, when it's 241 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 6: election time, no one talks about. 242 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 5: This stuff, no one, And it is. 243 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 6: Vital that we talk about it and get it out 244 00:14:55,360 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 6: on the open. But they keep us muzzles, you know, 245 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 6: they keep us from speaking up, and they keep shoving 246 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 6: this case. We have the safest city and. 247 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 2: We are not. 248 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 6: East Boston was never the safest city. And now real 249 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 6: estate changes us to Boston and our Salves is beyond 250 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 6: you know, it's ridiculous. Who can afford to stay in 251 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 6: your own city. But Reverend, we have to have more 252 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 6: coalition out here. We've got to band together. This has 253 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 6: just stop this crime on children and seniors in particular. 254 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 6: This is happening on the streets more and more, and 255 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 6: they blame it on mass and casts, but I blame 256 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 6: I hold responsible the mayor, every city councilor every representative. 257 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 6: I don't care who you are. Get involved. 258 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: How would Joe in how would you like to live 259 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 2: in the South End I've had people on who live 260 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 2: in the South End, mass and cast is a different problem, 261 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 2: but it's the same unsolved type problem. There are people 262 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 2: who literally drug addicts who they find sleeping on their 263 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 2: couch in the morning when they get up. 264 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and. 265 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 3: Worse than that. 266 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 5: Worse than that, Dan, I'm. 267 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 6: Here helping people heal. How can you help people heal? 268 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 6: They want to, they want to know the facts, they 269 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 6: want a resolution, but when they see that these repeat 270 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 6: offenders are walking the streets again. 271 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 2: The other thing which I just need to mention, Okay, 272 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 2: and I think you'll agree with me, and I know 273 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 2: Reverend Peters will. 274 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: Agree with me. 275 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 2: Ninety five or ninety eight percent of the kids in Roxbury, Dorchester, Mattapay, 276 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 2: South End in High Park are trying to do the 277 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 2: right thing. The group that are engaged in this activity 278 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: is a minority of a minority. They're like three percent 279 00:16:55,160 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 2: four percent they're will And it's so I think sad 280 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 2: that if you happen to be a black teenager, you're 281 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 2: you're sort of lumped in with all these others from 282 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 2: people who don't know anything about Dorchester, Rocksbury or matter 283 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 2: Pan have never been there, and a lot of folks 284 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 2: out there in the suburbs. Well, you know it's not 285 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 2: our problem, because we'll we're here and wherever it is. 286 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 5: Problem, it is part of a problem. 287 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 3: Reverend. 288 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: I assume you would agree with me, because if you don't, 289 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 2: I'll be stunned. The vast majority of kids, teenagers, black 290 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 2: male teenagers are trying to do the right things. They're 291 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 2: not all walking around carry guns. It's like three or 292 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 2: four percent that a committee that crimes over and over 293 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 2: and over again. 294 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 5: Right, absolute, hold on, Joe, Joe in hold on. 295 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 3: I'm not going to cut you off. I want to 296 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 3: give him a chance to finish his thought. 297 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 4: And now'll keep but go ahead, Reverend, I just briefly 298 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 4: wanted to agree with you. 299 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 3: Dan. 300 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 4: The black community in Boston and across the country, in 301 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 4: some respect is a law, a law of biding community 302 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 4: which respects uh, the the idea and the implementation of 303 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 4: public safety by law enforcement agents. So we generally are 304 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 4: not anti police across the board, and we're not naturally 305 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 4: genetically biologically. 306 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, we have more young black and men and women 307 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 2: in law enforcement today the way ever that and oftentimes 308 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 2: they are working the toughest details. They're working the overnight shifts. 309 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 2: They're seeing the they're seeing the crime. So yeah, joe In, 310 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 2: I cut you off. I'm coming to my news, but 311 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 2: you go right ahead. You get the final word. Yours 312 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 2: has been a great call. By the way, joe In, 313 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 2: I don't need to tell you it happened. Has been 314 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 2: a great call. 315 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 6: I am so I am so frustrated with our elected officials. 316 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 6: I don't even want to call them that because how 317 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 6: many of them have broken the law and show how 318 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 6: defiant they are by justifying or staying doing what they're doing. Still, 319 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 6: one just got out of jail a month, Yes, all right, 320 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 6: a month. 321 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 2: Rich was a slap on the wrist, by the way, 322 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 2: a slap on the risk, slap on the wrist. 323 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 6: She was allowed to stay in her office because it 324 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 6: was no law that prevented that. So we are not 325 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 6: protected by our own laws. We're not protected by the 326 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 6: people that are supposed to fight for us. You know why, 327 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 6: because it's downright dirty to come down into the trenches 328 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 6: and help the people who are begging for help. And 329 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 6: it's not pretty, it's not it's dangerous, and it's very sad. 330 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 3: Joanna. 331 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 2: As a social worker, I am here, you see it 332 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 2: Reverend Peterson has been in the trenches for years and 333 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 2: that's why I admire him. Uh and and he he 334 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 2: will always have a voice on this program, and we're 335 00:19:59,400 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 2: going to keep that. 336 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, I'm not going anywhere. I've been in. 337 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 2: Boston and staying in Boston, and I hope you'll continue 338 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: to call. 339 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 3: And let's let's shake it up. 340 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 6: Can we have reverends and number? Can we contact the 341 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 6: reverend after? 342 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 3: Sure? Yeah? 343 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 2: Let me Reverend. How about this we could do one 344 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 2: of you. We can either pass your number hold on 345 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 2: joe In. We can either pass your number on to 346 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 2: joe In directly, Reverend if you want, or she can 347 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 2: contact you through the website the New Democracy Coalition. 348 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 4: Correct, Okay, pass her number one to UH through your producer. 349 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 4: That's fine. 350 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 3: You know what you're gonna do, joe Inne you just 351 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 3: heard him. Okay, you stay there, don't hang up. Rob. 352 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 2: The Reverend has authorized you to give his phone number, 353 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 2: which which we're talking with him on right now, to 354 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 2: joe Inn and Joanne. Obviously you keep that between yourself 355 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 2: and him. Okay, I think Rob is already talking to 356 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: We got to take a break. Here's the newscast. We'll 357 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: be right back on night Side right after the news. 358 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: You're on Nightside with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. 359 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,479 Speaker 2: If you're listening to Nightside for the first time tonight, 360 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 2: I hope that you'll tell your friends about this show 361 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 2: and they can listen to these two hours that we 362 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 2: have done. Or well, we'll finish with the Reverend Peters 363 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 2: and I'm not going to keep him after eleven o'clock. 364 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 2: I promise him that you can listen at Nightside on demand, 365 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 2: and Reverend the New Democracy Coalition can take Anybody with 366 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 2: some technical aptitude more than mine can take these two 367 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 2: hours down and post them on your website because they 368 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 2: think they've been very good. Let's keep rolling here. Going 369 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 2: to go next to a cousin. Her name is pronounced 370 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 2: deja uh is in Boston. Deja. I'm so sorry about 371 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 2: the loss of your cousin. There's not many words that 372 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 2: that I can express other than say that. 373 00:21:55,920 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 3: We will keep the name of Yaka Lewis Lewis alive 374 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 3: as your mom requested him. 375 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, continue to talk about Lynz Joseph, the little boy 376 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 2: who was killed by a Boston last April, and that 377 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 2: that seems to have faded away, but we'll continue to 378 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 2: talk about it. 379 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 3: You're on with Reverend Kevin Peterson of the New Democracy Coalition. 380 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 7: Go right ahead, Yes, I just want to I just 381 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 7: want to say her name, and I want her name 382 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 7: to live on, and I want justice for my little cousin, 383 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 7: you know, and I want to continue for her name 384 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,959 Speaker 7: to live on, and I want justice for her. I 385 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 7: want like the government system and the police system and 386 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 7: how like you know, everybody like put you know, like 387 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 7: there's gang unit, there's different task force that you know, 388 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 7: patrols daily, and I just really don't understand how they didn't, like, 389 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 7: you know, like they're not doing as much as I 390 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 7: feel like they would have done, as if you know, 391 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 7: it was a random person sitting on a corner or 392 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 7: like in their car, and then they want to patrol 393 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 7: people and harass people. But you know, they still hasn't 394 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 7: found my cousin's murderer yet. And my cousin's not a 395 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 7: bad girl. She's very quiet and to herself. So it's 396 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 7: just like, you know, like I feel like a lot 397 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 7: more can be done. I feel like, you know, it's 398 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 7: kind of like upsetting that you know, it's a month 399 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,719 Speaker 7: later and still we don't have any answers. I just 400 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 7: want to continue to, you know, just advocate for my cousin. 401 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 7: And she's she's a baby to me. So it's like really, like, 402 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 7: you know, like what are we doing? Like this could 403 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 7: be any one of our little sisters, our cousins, or 404 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 7: you know, any one of our babies, Like really, and 405 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 7: I just feel like this, this situation is not really 406 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 7: being taken as seriously as if it wasn't if it 407 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 7: was anybody else's kids. And it's hitting my family hard. 408 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 7: It's hitting me hard, you know, and I just want 409 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 7: justice for my little cousin. And I want you know, 410 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 7: we want answers, not just me, we want answer. 411 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question. Obviously it's very personal 412 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 2: to you. I have seen this as a guy who's 413 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 2: done a talk show here for a long time, and 414 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 2: Bever Peterson has seen it. And the problem is that 415 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 2: this problem wasn't addressed when Dolores Brown was a grandmother 416 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 2: in Dorchester, was shot to death in April I believe 417 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 2: was twenty twenty three, while she sat on her front 418 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 2: porch on a Saturday afternoon April. It wasn't addressed. They're 419 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 2: still looking for whoever shot her. The Lenz Joseph case, 420 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 2: which is the case of the little boy who was 421 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 2: actually run over by his own school bus last April. 422 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 2: Had you heard of. 423 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 5: That case by any chance or no? 424 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 6: No? 425 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 2: No, So we talked about that case on this show 426 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 2: and will continue to talk about the case, as we 427 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 2: will continue to talk about Jakaia's case. This little boy 428 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 2: five years old. The bus drive was driving the bus 429 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 2: that day for the City of Boston, hit two cars, 430 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 2: had had an accident, never stopped, never reported it, continued on, 431 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 2: dropped the little boy off across the street from his 432 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 2: house as opposed to where he should have dropped the 433 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 2: little boy off, and when the little boy got off 434 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 2: the bus with his eleven year old cousin. 435 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 3: He was run over by the bus. It's been since. 436 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 2: For one second, holding just for one second, day, Jah, 437 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 2: because I just want to make the point that we've 438 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 2: talked about that several times. Okay, I haven't heard the 439 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 2: mayor talk about it. I haven't heard the district attorney 440 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 2: talk about it. There's been no There's a civil lawsuit 441 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 2: filed on behalf of the family against the bus company, 442 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 2: which is fine, but there's been no criminal charge issued. 443 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 2: There's been no grand jury, to the rest of my knowledge, convened, 444 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 2: there's been no report issued. So what happens is these 445 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 2: horrible tragedies. They've very different. What happened to your cousin 446 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 2: and what happened to Lynch Joseph and what happened to 447 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 2: Dolores Brown and and and Jamal Jamal Cox and others, 448 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 2: but the scenarios all the same. They assume people will 449 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 2: forget about it, and we're not going to let people 450 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 2: forget about. 451 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 7: It, not at all. Yeah, and I agree, And I 452 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 7: just don't understand what you know, the cameras on the 453 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 7: traffic lights is for, and you know the all of this, 454 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 7: and you know the shot spotters, and we're paying all 455 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 7: these taxes, but we can't even get justice far our 456 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 7: loved ones. I really don't understand what is all of 457 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 7: these new and improved updates for. And then the police 458 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 7: station is literally like two blocks away. I just don't understand, 459 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 7: like how it doesn't even make any sense to me. 460 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 7: But you know, I just want to continue to say 461 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 7: her name, stay her name, and that's what I want. 462 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 3: To say everybody. 463 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 2: I want to I want to say Dolorous and I 464 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 2: want everybody to know all of these names until we 465 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 2: can solve this problem and make sure people are going 466 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 2: to be killed wherever they live. But they are being 467 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 2: killed at a rate in the murder triangle that that 468 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 2: Reverend Peterson has had the courage to talk about way 469 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 2: beyond any rate. That's no murder is acceptable. But but 470 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 2: when you're talking about this many in this small area. 471 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 7: To bystanders, it's not okay. 472 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 3: Well it's never okay. And I want to get the 473 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 3: reverend in here. 474 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 2: Reverend, I don't want to take over your show here, 475 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 2: Please go right ahead, say hello, Dejaja. 476 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 4: Hello, Thanks, thank you, Thank you for for calling in 477 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 4: and expressing both the trauma and the concern that's your 478 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 4: experiency and that you might experience for a long long time. 479 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 4: It's important for people to hear this, to say Ja 480 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 4: Kai's name to lewis as rittenpresented as representative of the 481 00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 4: larger tragedy that's been happening over generations before. Perhaps dais 482 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 4: that you were born. So thank you for your courage 483 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 4: and and and your and your willingness to come and 484 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 4: talk about this and hold our elected officials and and 485 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 4: police officers, public safety officers hold their feet to the fires. 486 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 4: It's just so important that we save their names and 487 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 4: the interests of justice. Your your your cousin will be 488 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 4: buried on December one, and that that will that will 489 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 4: hit at the heart of of the community in the 490 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 4: very traumatic way. I've described to a couple hundred people 491 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 4: on Saturday, Uh Dejiah, how Jakai Mhm was a daughter 492 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 4: of the city, was my daughter. It was a Dan raised, 493 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 4: Dan raised daughter. All of our daughters or our sisters. 494 00:28:55,880 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 4: So we have to behave behave in such a fashion 495 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 4: that we we find justice for for for our daughter, right, 496 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 4: so that this doesn't happen in the future. 497 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 6: Right. 498 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 3: We don't want her death to be in vain. Deijah. 499 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,479 Speaker 3: There's nothing that we can do to bring her back. 500 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 3: But again, by saying her name, Jakiah. 501 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 2: Lewis just to emphasise that we are not going to 502 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 2: forget what happened to her. 503 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 3: She was an absolute innocent victim. Absolute. 504 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 7: I I'm not right, I'm not expecting you know, it's 505 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 7: to bring her back, but you know, I mean, I'm 506 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 7: just expecting for the police to do a little bit more. 507 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 7: But you know, the our community to do a little 508 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 7: bit more because you know this is not okay. So 509 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 7: you know, I know it's not going to bring her back, 510 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 7: but it's like, you know, like we need we need justice, 511 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 7: we need answers as if it was you know, their kids. 512 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 7: That's the whole moral of the story. 513 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 2: And also we may not be able to bring her back, 514 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 2: but we can't keep her memory alive. I have a 515 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 2: big microphone here, I reach I reached listeners in in fifties, 516 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 2: in thirty eight states, over the air and on the 517 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 2: internet around the world. I have people who listen to 518 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 2: this podcast from dozens of countries around the world, countries 519 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 2: that many people have never even heard of. Okay, So 520 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 2: when we say her name, when we say is Jakiah Lewis, 521 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 2: I guarantee you that she her name will be heard 522 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 2: by by tens of thousands of people, not only within 523 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 2: the murder triangle, within Dorchester, Roxbury, South End, Hyde Park 524 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 2: and Mattapan, but her name is speaker around the world tonight, 525 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 2: and I will continue and I will come back to this. 526 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 2: I don't I don't let these stories go. As Reverend Peterson, 527 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 2: I think will will attest. He texted me over the weekend. 528 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 2: I called him this morning and we're doing this tonight. 529 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 3: I don't. 530 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 2: I don't let grass grow under my when I think 531 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 2: a story is important, and this story is critically important. 532 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 7: Yes, I appreciate it, and I think you also the acknowledgement, 533 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 7: and you know, I definitely appreciate you, know, you guys, 534 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 7: you know, getting the word out there. I appreciate that 535 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 7: a lot, and my family does as well, and. 536 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 2: We appreciate, we appreciate you taking the time to call 537 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 2: because it's not an easy thing for someone to do. 538 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 2: Reverend Peterson speaks, you know, to congregations and to press 539 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 2: conferences all the time I do a radio show. I 540 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 2: forget sometimes how tough it is for someone who maybe 541 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 2: has never been on a radio show before to pick 542 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 2: up the phone call and then speak as coachingly as 543 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 2: you have spoken. 544 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 3: So thank you for doing that tonight. 545 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 7: Thank you. I appreciate it, and have a good night. 546 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 5: Yeah. 547 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 2: Will we get back a couple more phone calls and 548 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 2: then Reverend we'll wrap it up for the night. I 549 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 2: appreciate the two hours that you've spent with us tonight. 550 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 2: Let's hope we're doing some good. We'll be back on 551 00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 2: Night's Side right after this. 552 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan ray On Boston's news Radio. 553 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 2: Next up is Radiant Jasmine, who I believe is also 554 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 2: related to Shakaiah Lewis. 555 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 8: I'm not related in that kind of way, but just 556 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 8: want to send my condolences out to the family I'm from. 557 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 8: I'm from that community and grew up in Mattapan and 558 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 8: work in Mattapan and do work with the Rev. Thank you, 559 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 8: Reverend Kevin for all the work that you do for 560 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 8: our community, and thank you. I just want to You're welcome, 561 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 8: but you know to to to piggyback on. 562 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 9: What was said about that, there's just a small amount 563 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 9: of our youth that are you know, violent or going wayward. 564 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 9: I work with youth and community centers and schools. I'm 565 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 9: an art educator and we know what to do with 566 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 9: our youth to help get them on the right path. 567 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 9: And that funding needs to stop being pulled away from 568 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 9: the programs that I have. I get in schools, I 569 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 9: work with the youth. I start to develop a report 570 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 9: with them. It can take a whole school year to 571 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 9: develop a report and get them to trust me and 572 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 9: use the artwork in a way that they can express 573 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 9: their anger, their sadness, their frustration in a healthy kind 574 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 9: of way and then the funding is pulled or you've 575 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 9: got to pull my program because you want to do 576 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 9: some testing with the youth. And this is over and 577 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 9: over and over again, like why do we put our 578 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 9: youth through this? Well, we know why. It's purposeful. This 579 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 9: stuff is being done on purpose just to kind of 580 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 9: keep us in this kind of merry go round kind 581 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 9: of situation over and over again. So those folks who 582 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 9: say they really want to help us get better, stop 583 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 9: pulling funding like that from our youth, you know, stop 584 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 9: pulling funding from from from snap benefits and things like that, 585 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 9: so that we can eat the food that we need 586 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 9: to have to be healthy, so that their brains are healthy, 587 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 9: so they can think better, so they can process emotions 588 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 9: that are. 589 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,439 Speaker 4: Strong instead of taking it out on each other. 590 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,280 Speaker 5: So that's some of the stuff that well, I got. 591 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 2: To I got to be honest with you, Jasmine, if 592 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 2: I could, because I do the show, and I got 593 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 2: to be honest with you. 594 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 3: I think we're talking about. 595 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 2: Need for much more of a police presence and to 596 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,720 Speaker 2: get the kids who do not want to learn off 597 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 2: the streets and get them somehow on a better track. 598 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 2: I wish it were that simple, that if we had 599 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 2: not had a government shut down for forty two days 600 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 2: and snap benefits were not withheld for a week and 601 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 2: a half, that that that would have solved all of 602 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 2: our problems. 603 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 3: I don't think that's going to I wouldn't have been 604 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 3: all of it. 605 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 9: We had problems in food, apartheid, neighborhoods where where I 606 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 9: think that. 607 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 2: We need With all due respect, I think you buying 608 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 2: into some theories that that have actually been counterproductive. 609 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 3: And I think, again, this is me. I don't know. 610 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 2: I'm not speaking for Reverend Peterson. I think when you 611 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 2: really get to the ground level and see what happens 612 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 2: in this community, it's a small group of kids who 613 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 2: are acting out Because. 614 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 9: I work with these kids. I'm telling you from from 615 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 9: from experience working with them for a couple year. 616 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 3: For nearly fifty years. Okay, so I covered. 617 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 9: It as somebody who's worked with them, like like face 618 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 9: to face. 619 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, any too, An, I don't I don't want to 620 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 3: get off on tools. 621 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,720 Speaker 2: I really don't want to get off into a sociological tangent. 622 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 2: But when you start throwing in snap benefits and the 623 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 2: shutdown and all of that, it takes us away from 624 00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 2: what we want to talk about tonight, and that. 625 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 3: Is making these communities safer. 626 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 9: Well, well, well this is, but this is what I'm 627 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 9: talking about right now. 628 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 4: So this is my community. 629 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 10: Let me ask if I. 630 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 2: Put one question, one question, if I could, if the 631 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 2: amount of crime that was occurring in the Triangle was 632 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 2: occurring in Randolph, do you think people in Randolph would 633 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 2: put up with it? 634 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 9: Actually, stuff is going upwards here in Randolph. I've lived 635 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 9: in Randolph for a long time. So what I'm what 636 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 9: I'm saying is that a lot of these youth that 637 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,720 Speaker 9: are having these problems, some of this stuff was people 638 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 9: noticed stuff. 639 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,280 Speaker 8: When they were way, way, way younger. 640 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,399 Speaker 9: More social workers in the schools, and we need more 641 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,439 Speaker 9: psychologists in the schools to work with these youths when 642 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,919 Speaker 9: they're younger, to catch these problems before they balloon out 643 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 9: of hand. 644 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,320 Speaker 3: Sure enough, we will simply go to a great disagree. 645 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 2: And I got a couple other calls. I want to 646 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 2: try to sneak in, Reverend. I don't want to put 647 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 2: you in the spot, but if you want to make 648 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 2: a comment, feel free. 649 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 4: We'll give you the callers. 650 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 3: All right, fair enough, thank you very much, Ready and 651 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 3: Jasmine appreciate your call. 652 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 5: Thank you. 653 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 3: Let me go to Gene and every Gene I can 654 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 3: give you just about a minute. 655 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 10: I know, I'm sorry. Listen, I grew up in the 656 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 10: border of a very rough neighborhood, so I've seen things 657 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 10: and heard whatever. But here's the thing. All these politicians 658 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 10: do is politicking. Okay, they could kill less about any 659 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 10: of us. Opening beer gardens is a great thing for them, 660 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 10: pot shops and everything that destroys families and neighborhoods and kids. 661 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 10: So the thing is, if you're too polite, you get 662 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 10: no response from them. So I would suggest that you 663 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 10: actually have a protest in front of city hall twice 664 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 10: a week. I don't care if five people show up 665 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,760 Speaker 10: on one hundred and list their names. Mayowu City Council. 666 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 10: We see no action on these deaths, are no action 667 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 10: on these murders, and we need things done for our neighborhood, 668 00:37:59,000 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 10: our youth. 669 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 3: Okay, look that I wish I got to you earlier. Gene. 670 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 2: That's a great suggest. I don't know if the reverend 671 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:08,479 Speaker 2: we'll do that. Good night, Jeene. 672 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 3: Thank you for your call to the callers in the line. 673 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 3: You had to have called early. 674 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 2: We're going to change topics we're going to talk about 675 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 2: the uh, the president and the emails, the Epstein emails. Reverend, 676 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 2: how can folks get in touch with you at the 677 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 2: New Democracy Coalition if it'd like to support you, stand 678 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 2: with you. 679 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 3: What can they do? 680 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 4: Let's go through through the website the New Democracy Coalition 681 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 4: dot com, the New Democracy Coalition dot com, and or 682 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,439 Speaker 4: you can reach me through social media through Facebook under 683 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 4: my name Kevin Peterson. December one is the burial of 684 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 4: Jekiah Lewis at the Greater Love Church in Dorchester on 685 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 4: Nightingale Street. It would be a gesture of sympathy and 686 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 4: collective current and determination and focused if the diversity of 687 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 4: the city showed up, including Mayor Wou, showed up at 688 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 4: this ceremony, as we say in the Black community's going 689 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 4: home ceremony. But it's important that our city leaders, Michael Cox, 690 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 4: the Commissioner, Mayor Wou be at this funeral. 691 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 2: Well, you and I will talk about that before December one. 692 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,919 Speaker 3: Let's do that. Let's talk about this sometime next week. 693 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 4: Fair enoughcome, fair enough? 694 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 3: Thank you, all right, thanks, Revi, appreciate it very much. 695 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:33,479 Speaker 3: Here comes the eleven. 696 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 2: We come back on and talk about the Epstein emails. 697 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 2: Why has Donald Trump done on one to eighty on 698 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 2: that