WEBVTT - 12-2-25 Dan Carroll in for Willie 0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:12.959 Right back on the Big One, seven HUNDREDLW twelve O 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:16.000 nine Dan Carroll in for the great American Bill Cunningham. 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:19.439 And it looks like we have survived another Snowmageddon. I 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:24.280 am told that people like Brian Comb's, people like Chuck Ingram. 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:28.440 That's a couple of savvy, savvy veterans right there who 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:31.840 have driven in all kinds of conditions. And they even 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:33.600 got caught up in the teeth hair. And I that 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:36.440 was all over the roads this morning as people were 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:39.239 trying to get to wherever they were going. And I 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:41.879 asked Chuck Ingram this morning, I said, what about the 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:44.760 city of Cincinnati. We know about seventy one the cut 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:47.919 in the hill. We had some tractor trailers that were 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:51.239 jackknifed on the cut in the hill, causing massive backups 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:53.400 on I seventy one, I said, but what about the 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:56.120 city of Cincinnati. He said, By all accounts, it looks 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:59.840 like things went pretty well in the city of Cincinnati, 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:04.319 which is kind of nice. So I'm giving props to 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:07.280 the City of Cincinnati. Not one hundred percent sure that 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:09.720 they went about it in the right manner, but it 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:12.680 looks like, at least for now, they've escaped the worst 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:15.040 of the worst. Joining me now is the man who 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:18.920 would have been mayor of the City of Cincinnati if 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:21.759 only he would have got another fifty six or fifty 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:24.760 seven percent of the vote, And that is Corey Bowman. 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:31.199 And Corey Bowman welcome the seven hundred WLW just got 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:33.840 edged out by about fifty seven percent of the vote. 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:34.640 It was pretty close. 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:39.160 Yeah, just about by the hair of my chinny chinshin 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:41.840 right there. Well, first of all, thank you so much, 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:43.560 Dan for having me to all your listeners. I hope 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:46.520 you guys had an amazing Thanksgiving and you're enjoying the 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:48.480 beginning of the Christmas season here. 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:51.520 Well. Absolutely, I hope you and your family had a 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:54.280 great Thanksgiving. And I know Christmas is a big deal 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:57.720 for you, but is it Is it almost better having 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:03.639 been beaten in a thoroughly convincing way rather than having 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:06.960 maybe lost by by one or two points. Now that 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:09.160 you look back on it and have has a little 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:12.320 time to digest this, well. 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:14.480 I mean, so this is actually one of my first 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:16.960 I think this is my first interview since the election. 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:18.760 You know, it was really this family. 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:22.000 Yeah, and you know, I just want to personally say 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:25.320 thank you to every single person that not only voted 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:27.560 for us, but anybody that knocked on a door for us, 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:31.000 put a flyer out, shared a post for us, because really, 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:32.560 you know, at the beginning of it, this is our 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:36.799 first political race. You know, we're fairly new into everything 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:39.520 that we were doing, and we all I wanted to 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:41.160 set out to do is run the best race that 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:44.079 we could, to expose the issues, to start the conversation, 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:47.360 and ultimately, you know, give the city a chance to 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:50.680 see where we are politically on these local levels as well, 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:54.359 because we were the first Republican candidate in sixteen years, 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:58.840 and you know what you're seeing through the results. You know, 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:01.920 if you look past the last five years, specifically in 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:05.520 the one hundred and ninety one precincts of Cincinnati, whether 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:09.960 it be with you know, the previous Congress races, whether 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:11.880 it be with the Senate races, whether be even with 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:15.640 the presidential races, you know, our percentages basically lined up 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:18.919 with that, which is where about seventy five twenty five 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:22.640 or you know, seventy eight twenty two or eighty twenty 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:26.720 city when it comes to the party lines, And I 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:29.240 think that from a local level, that's something that we 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:32.280 really had to expose and see, hey, where are we 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:34.280 at and what do we need to focus on for 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:34.840 the future. 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:39.000 So hopefully the race that you ran, which I thought 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:41.480 you I mean, look for a guy at first time 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:44.080 out that I know a lot of people are are 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:47.440 criticizing the way you ran the race. But from my perspective, 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:49.840 I thought you did a great job. I thought every 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:52.119 time that I had you on this station, every time 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:56.080 I heard you on the either being interviewed by another 0:03:56.080 --> 0:04:00.280 host or fifty five with Brian Thomas, when I saw 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:02.360 you on TV, when I saw you during the debates, 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:06.080 I thought, I thought the arguments you made, the positions 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:09.880 that you presented were for those who would pay attention 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:14.600 to it, were solid positions, they were grounded in reality. 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:18.320 You obviously didn't and Purvoll made a I know during 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:20.599 one of the debates have to have the mayor made 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:24.480 a point to criticize you for not having all the information, 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:27.240 but obviously you don't have all the information that he's 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:29.960 privy to. But I thought, for the most part, I 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:32.080 thought you ran You ran a campaign, and I thought 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:38.320 your positions were reasonable and they were completely acceptable alternatives 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:41.760 to what the policies are that we have now in 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:42.839 the city of Cincinnati. 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:47.080 Well, I appreciate those words, you know, for us, you know, 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:50.159 it's very hard in this political climate. And you know, 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:53.080 obviously with to my brothers, which I'm not ashamed of. 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:55.240 You know, my brother is the vice President of the 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:58.080 United States, and that's something I'm extremely proud of to 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:01.080 see what he's able to accomplish. But one thing that 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:04.080 we tried to drive home as much as we could 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:06.240 is that we have to run these city elections on 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:08.560 city issue. You know, you mentioned at the start of 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:10.919 the program the snow removement. You know, I have a 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:14.120 coffee shop, and our coffee shop last year there was 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:16.760 a week straight where customers couldn't come into our shop 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:21.000 because the snowplile removal. Well this this morning, the snow 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:23.280 file wasn't on our street, but it was only two 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:26.280 to four inches in the downtown area and enough cars 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:28.240 are driving by it to where people can get in. 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:30.560 But I will say this, I want to give you know, 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:33.479 the City of Cincinnati and credit where credits do, whether 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:36.039 it be with the mayor or the city manager. As 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:39.560 far as this first you know, major hit which you 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:41.040 know two to four inches, I don't know if that's 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:44.760 a major hit. But you know, I've watched Central Parkway, 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:47.240 I've watched Lynn Street, I've watched all the streets at 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:50.760 our main roads. And even last night, it was about 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:53.279 probably one a m. Two am, right outside my door 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:55.440 there was a snow truck. You could tell that they 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:58.280 were ready. They were being proactive, and that's what we 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:00.960 need from city government. We don't need people that copy 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:03.760 and paste national politics. We need people that are going 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:08.160 to be proactive when it comes to the city issues, crime, infrastructure, 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:11.800 the budget being spent properly and obviously with the service 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:13.719 is like plantation snowflower grouple. 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:17.040 So Corey Bowman, I want to get back to the 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:19.359 snow issue in just a second, but I was thinking 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:23.200 about something. A week or so ago. I was asked 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:26.800 by a caller on my on my nighttime show, and 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:30.520 the caller said, how much help did Corey Bowman get 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:34.719 from the local Republican Party? And I said, you know what, 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:36.720 I don't know what that answer is. I said, well, 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:39.119 I will ask him that when I get a chance 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:42.800 to talk to him. But from my perspective, it didn't 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:46.080 seem like you got that much help. I don't know. 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:48.160 I don't know what's true. I don't know how much 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:51.080 help you wanted. I don't know how much help the 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:53.920 Republican Party was able to give to you. So when 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:56.200 I ask you that question, how much help were you 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:59.479 able to get from the local Republican establishment, what is 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:00.599 the answer that question? 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:04.440 Well, I'll say this, you know, based on the results 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:07.000 and based on maybe how people perceive it. You know, 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:10.640 you can probably make your own assumptions. But from my perspective, 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:14.320 Chairman Wrussell Mock, even Chairman Alyx from the state level, 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:17.040 every time I reached out for any type of advice, 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:19.240 any type of help, any type of event that we 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:22.520 were holding, they were encouraging, they helped, they they were 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:24.920 able to guide us in a lot of ways. And 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:27.720 I think that, you know, one thing I did notice, 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:30.040 the biggest thing I've noticed when it comes to if 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:32.080 you want to focus on party, and you want to 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:35.360 focus on let's say, the Republican Party the Hamilton County, 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:38.040 you know, there's a lot of different opinions, there's a 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:40.080 lot of different backgrounds, and I think the thing that 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:42.480 we need to focus on is, no matter who's at 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:45.920 the top, if we can't unify together to be able 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:48.720 to have organization, to be able to volunteer and to 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:52.440 do the work properly, not based on all these very 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:56.120 specific opinions, but based on a collaborative approach that, hey, 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:59.560 we need to have conservative values back in Hamilton County, 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:01.800 back in the city. That's where we're going to see 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:04.520 the most done. And I think that's the work that's 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:08.160 ahead of us because the Republican Party, you know, when 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:10.840 they saw President Trump get in in twenty twenty four, 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:13.440 we're seeing this right now that a lot of them 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:15.520 just sit at home and don't want to get involved 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:18.239 in these off year elections. We're seeing it right now today. 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:22.000 There's a special election in Tennessee for Republicans seat that 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:25.040 could very well flip Democrat if voters don't turn out. 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:29.440 Because in these off yr elections, the organization and the 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:32.840 structure and the unity of the other side in these 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:35.959 cities are a lot better. And I think that's what 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:38.120 we need to focus on. As far as help from 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:41.120 the party goes. There wasn't one time where I felt 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:44.320 like the Hampton County GOP wasn't on our side, the 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:47.240 state GOP wasn't on our side. And I will say 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:49.880 this too There's even people that are on the other 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:52.439 side that are mad that the party even got involved 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:55.160 at all because they're saying, hey, you're wasting money in 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:57.880 the city election. We need to focus on other elections. 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:01.480 And I think that mindset that you always need to 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:03.720 put up a fight no matter what. You always got 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:05.480 to be able to stand on your ground, no matter what, 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:07.960 no matter how impossible it is. And I can say 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:10.959 that Chairman Mok and even Chairman Alex and people on 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:13.400 the GOP that they stood with us and they took 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:14.920 a chance on us with this election. 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:17.760 Well good because I look at this and I think 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:20.720 it's a worthy effort. We haven't had a Republican mayor 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:24.320 in the city of Cincinnati since nineteen seventy one, and 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:28.679 changing things up and trying something different I think would 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:31.840 not be a bad idea. What about local media do 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:33.760 you think do you feel like you've got a fair 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:37.040 shake from local media? 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:39.120 Well, I will say this. I'm not going to call 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:43.239 anyboy specific, but there were certain there were certain reporters 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:46.560 and certain you know outlets that in the last three 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:50.400 weeks I just basically, you know, refused to kind of 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:53.040 respond to anything because over the course of the year 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:56.520 I had responded to questions and then realized they were 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:59.040 going to write whatever they wanted, no matter what they net. 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:02.040 There was some any misquotes, or so many times where 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:05.160 even if I didn't say something, they would spin it 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:08.160 however way they want. I think that's something that we 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:10.319 got to really look at when it comes to these 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:13.920 city media outlets. You know, for me, there was some 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:17.480 that were extremely fair, you know, the news organizations, the 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:21.000 local channels. There was many people within each one of 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:23.800 those outlets that were able to give us a fair share. 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:30.480 But ultimately, you know, the overall mentality in perception of 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:33.440 the city is dictated by a lot of these media outlets, 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:35.480 and I think that we need to kind of focus 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:38.800 back on the facts and not based on biased opinions. 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:43.120 You mentioned earlier that you are the brother of JD. 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:47.240 Vance and I think that was how you got introduced 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:50.280 to the city of Cincinnati. Look, here's the guy who's running. 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:52.480 Who's Corey Bowman. He's the brother of J. D Evans, 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:55.199 Jada Evans. You know, it may encourage you to get 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:58.040 in the race. Even though he knew it was a 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:00.480 huge uphill climb. I think you knew it was a 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:04.360 huge uphill climb, and it seems to me that fairly 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:08.400 or unfairly, and I would believe unfairly, the Democrats centered 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:11.559 a lot of their campaign or the re election campaign 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:15.720 of a f tab pervol around that. In that a 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:18.560 lot of what I heard during the course of this 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:22.720 campaign was, oh, here's Corey Bowman, he's They wanted to 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:28.040 tie you to the Trump administration. They wanted to try 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:30.920 to tie you to JD. Vans and Donald Trump and 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:34.520 say this is the way Trump is going to get 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:37.880 Mega into the city of Cincinnati. And they knew that 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:41.880 hardcore Democrat voters who are opposed to Trump, opposed to 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:45.840 anything Mega, would respond to that. As you saw that 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:48.840 strategy play out, do you feel like that was an 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:52.440 effective part of the strategy that really took the focus 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:54.960 off of the issues that you wanted to talk about 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:58.000 and instead you had to combat this notion that you 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:01.200 were the trojan horse to bring me into the city 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:01.760 of cincident. 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:06.640 Well, you know, for me, you know, whenever you look 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:08.599 at all the questions, yes, that was always going to 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:12.079 be the headline of everything of you know, Vice President J. D. 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:15.640 Vance's brother. And you could tell probably about halfway through 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:19.000 the year, I realized, oh, that's that's the main strategy, 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:21.840 because they were sending out mailers that was basically saying 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:23.040 MAGA was coming in. 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:24.360 And it wasn't just me. 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:27.760 You know, you had names on the ballot, like great 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:32.640 names like Christopher Smithman, Is Keating, Steve Gooden and a 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:34.840 lot of them. When you look at them from a 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:38.640 politics standpoint, they're fairly moderate or they're just more common sense. 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:40.480 You know, they're willing to work on both sides of 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:42.760 the aisle to get stuff done for the city. But 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:45.480 it didn't matter who was going to be on the ballot. 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:47.720 They were always going to frame it is that anybody 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:51.080 that wasn't on the nine endorsed candidates of the City 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:55.520 Council and the mayor account or the mayor candidate whoever 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:59.760 wasn't a part of that endorsed ticket was obviously MAGA. 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:00.760 And they're here. 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:03.000 To take your benefits. They're here to take this and 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:05.679 that was a huge strategy that they had in the city. 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:08.160 You know, you look at somebody like Liz Keating, or 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:11.000 you look at somebody like Lakeda Cole, who's not even 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:14.360 a part of any of those conservative movements. She's served in. 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:19.839 I believe bond Hill for years and these people that 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.960 have the name and recognition, that have the history with 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:26.080 the city. I believe that the closest that they got 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:30.080 to the lowest city council you know person, was ten 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:34.520 thousand votes. So then you see that it wasn't necessarily Yeah, 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:38.000 me and my who my brother is might have added 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:39.839 to that, but they were going to spend that no 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:42.760 matter what, because it's all about us versus them, not 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:46.600 about city politics and actually doing what's right for the city. 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:49.360 And we have to hold people accountable in city government 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:50.360 for city issues. 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:54.000 All right, Well, Corey Bowman, we've got to run. But 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:57.439 I know you've got the church, You've got the coffee shop, 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:00.240 you've got the family. You've got plenty of stuff going 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:05.000 on to keep you busy in the next election cycle. 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:09.080 Do we see Corey Bowman coming back again for another 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:10.960 run at the mayor's office. 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:15.360 Well, I'll say this with all honesty. My main focus 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:17.800 right now is just spending time with the kids, focusing 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:21.040 on We just had a Thanksgiving outreach for our church. 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:23.320 We're about to do a Christmas outreach and a bunch 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:25.880 of other those stuff like that. In the West End 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:29.920 working with schools and stuff. That's our main focus right now. 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:32.960 But the vision for our lives, I've said this since 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:36.320 the beginning, is to impact the lives of Cincinnati and 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:39.520 whatever is going to help the region, whatever is going 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:41.920 to help in that way, and we feel a peace 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:44.440 of God behind it. There's not a lot that we 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:47.400 won't consider. It's more so just in the timing of 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:49.960 the Lord and making sure that we make those decisions 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:51.280 when the time is right. 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:54.080 All right, Well, Corey Bowman, thank you so much for 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:58.120 the time today. I texted you after the results were 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:00.480 in that I looked at what you did and I 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:02.520 give you great credit for what you did, and you 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:06.000 are the man in the arena and to me you 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:08.840 will always be that. And whenever you want to have 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:12.120 something you want to talk about, my airwaves or your airwaves, 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:15.320 and I thank you for what you did. And anytime 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:17.640 you want to come on the radio and get something 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:20.280 off of your chest, please give me a call and 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:22.360 reach out to me and I'll be more than happy 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:24.080 to have you on. But Corey Bowman, all the best 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:26.040 to you and your family, and I hope you have 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:28.680 a great Christmas and a great New Year. And I 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:30.560 hope we get a chance to talking again before. 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:33.680 To absolutely thank you Dan for having me to you 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:34.400 and your listeners. 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:36.720 All right, there you go, Corey Bowman, the man who 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:39.880 would have been mayor if only fifty seven percent more 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:43.480 of those who turned out and look, voter turnout was 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:49.120 what twenty seven twenty eight percent. That is an absolute 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:54.080 shame and that is an absolute disgrace for the city 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:56.960 of Cincinnati to only have twenty seven or twenty eight 0:15:56.960 --> 0:16:00.640 percent of the voters bother to go out and have 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:04.600 their voices heard. Twelve twenty five, Dan Carroll for Bill Cunningham, 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:10.720 seven hundred WLW. Back on the Big One, seven hundred WLW. 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:14.520 Twelve thirty nine, Dan Carroll in for Bill Cunningham. Dave 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:16.520 Keaton is running the big board in the seven hundred 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:21.880 WLW command center. We call him the Broadcast Sheriff. Five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:24.560 eight hundred. The Big one phone lines are open. How 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:27.560 was your drive in today? How was your drive in 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:31.720 this morning? Because the early on it was not good. 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:34.800 It was tough sledding out there early on. And I 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:37.600 was up about five this morning, a little after five, 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:41.200 and I'm checking the traffic condition because my wife has 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:43.040 got to get out early, she's got to go to work. 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:45.680 So I'm out there digging out the car, clearing off 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:49.480 the driveway, doing all that stuff, and I'm watching. I 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:55.320 turn on channel nineteen and I see Stefano DPA Trantonio 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:59.520 and he's talking about Jackknife tractor trailers on I seventy 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:01.120 one coming up to ken Wood Cutt in the hill 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:04.000 and so that was not good. That was that was 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:07.199 rough right there. And I knew that the city of 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:10.000 Cincinnati had their snowplow tracker on. And by the way, 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:13.160 before I continue on to this, I want to say 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:15.800 thanks to Corey Bowman. I did not know that was 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:21.000 his first interview post election. Corey Bowman. I refer to 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:23.880 him as the man in the Arena because when when 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:26.320 I think of him and I think of what he 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:28.439 tried to do, I know that it was a huge, 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:34.439 a huge undertaking with with little probability of success, that 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:36.920 he put his name out there, he put his neck 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:42.639 out there, put his his name and his reputation on 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:45.000 the line to try and become the mayor of the 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:50.639 City of Cincinnati. And so I texted him after the 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:53.120 election was over and I said, you are the man 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:56.480 in the arena, because I'm reminded when I think of him, 0:17:56.480 --> 0:18:01.240 I'm reminded of the speech at Theodore Roosevelt delivered in 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:06.199 Paris on April twenty third of nineteen ten, and he 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:08.840 spoke these words, It is not the critic who counts, 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:12.840 not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:16.000 or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:19.520 The credit belongs to the man who is actually in 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:23.240 the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:27.520 and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs, who comes up 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:32.040 short again and again, because there is no effort without 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:36.560 error and shortcoming. But who does actually strive to do 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:41.680 the deeds, who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:45.240 spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:48.639 knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who, 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:53.160 at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:56.479 so that his place shall never be with those cold 0:18:56.560 --> 0:19:02.080 and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat. And 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:05.280 those are the words of Theodore Roosevelt. And when I 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:07.879 think of Corey Bowman, I think of those words and 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:10.600 I think of that great speech the Man in the Arena, 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:12.520 So I just wanted to get that in there. But 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:15.760 I got up this morning and so I turned on 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:20.679 five nine, twelve nineteen. I'm watching these young reporters and 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:23.600 reporter ats drive around. And it's something that I used 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:27.639 to do back in the day, because when it snows 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:29.840 like it was this morning, you don't fly the helicopter. 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:34.720 So I would get into the storm tracker vehicle and 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:37.680 we had the cameras in the cars, and you're driving around, 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:40.000 you're looking at roads, you're reporting what the roads were like. 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:42.960 And I can't tell you how many times I heard 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:45.720 this morning. And if this gets under your skin the 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:49.919 way it does mine, I want to hear about I 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:54.800 hear these reporters tell me, Hey, if you can stay home, 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:57.480 then stay home. If you don't need to be out 0:19:57.520 --> 0:19:59.520 on the roads, then don't be out on the roads. 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:03.480 Take it slow, got to be careful out there. Well, 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:07.919 you know what, Look, if you're a reporter and you 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:11.320 said that you rely on I call those crutches. You 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:13.480 gotta do you really, you gotta be better than that. 0:20:15.000 --> 0:20:17.119 I know when I was reporting on snow conditions and 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:19.040 I was driving out there. I would tell people to 0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:24.080 decide for themselves. I would talk about the conditions of 0:20:24.119 --> 0:20:26.600 the roads that we saw, and I would tell people 0:20:27.280 --> 0:20:30.440 what was going on. Hey, the snowplows are out here, 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:35.000 the roads are being treated. If you have to get somewhere, 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:38.119 you can probably get there. And the one thing I 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:41.399 would tell people is you know what kind of driver 0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:44.639 you are when it comes to driving in the snow. 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:49.600 You have to be able to honestly evaluate yourself and 0:20:49.640 --> 0:20:54.000 your own level of skill behind the wheel. And that's 0:20:54.040 --> 0:20:56.840 not to say that it's good or bad or anything else, 0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:00.480 but not everyone has the same skill set, the same 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:06.280 skill level when it comes to driving a car. Myself, 0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:08.359 I think I'm a pretty good driver behind the wheel. 0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:12.359