1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: It's time for our weekly conversation with legendary sports writer 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: Larry Stone, brought to you by the Ram Restaurant and Brewery, Bigger, better, 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: and fresher since nineteen seventy one, with eight Fugit Sound 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: locations from Marysville to Lacey and everywhere in between. There's 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: a Ram there you now with Softy and Dick, here's 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 1: Larry Stone. 7 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: All right, big thanks for our friends of the RAM 8 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 2: for sponsoring this shin dig with Larry. He'll be with 9 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: us every Wednesday throughout the baseball season, hopefully into early November. 10 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: That'd be nice to do something like that. But Larry, 11 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: we're talking some baseball in a minute here. But you've 12 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 2: been around this town long enough to know what sonic 13 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,279 Speaker 2: basketball means to this city. Why do you give us 14 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: your thoughts on the announcement today by the NBA Board 15 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: of Governors they're going to pursue expansion bids, start taking 16 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: some applications. They got a couple of teams that are 17 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 2: up for sale in Seattle in Vegas, and they want 18 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: to see what they can get for him. Adam Silver said, 19 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: no promises, no handshakes, no nothing, but this feels like 20 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: a pretty good day for basketball fans. 21 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 3: Does it not hit shuts? 22 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 4: You know? 23 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 3: You all signs pointed that this was going to be 24 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 3: the outcome of the meeting today. But the city and 25 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 3: fans here have been jacked around so many times that 26 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 3: until you heard it come from the commissioner's mouth, I 27 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 3: think there was a little bit of hesitation to fully 28 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 3: buy in. And there's still you know, Silver made a 29 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 3: point of saying, you know, this is not expansion, This 30 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 3: is a this is a pursuit of looking into expansion. 31 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 3: But it's sure all signs point to this happening. You know, 32 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 3: my Wiki is so confident. It has been for so long. 33 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 3: I thought that that has been the main source of 34 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 3: my optimism over the last few years. It's been reading 35 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 3: between the lines. When I talked to todd ly Wiki, 36 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 3: you know, he never says it's a done deal, but 37 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 3: he's been so confident that it's going to happen. And 38 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 3: I feel like he's in the know and in the 39 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 3: middle of things and is well connected. And when he 40 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 3: talks the way he talks, you just get the feeling 41 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 3: it's going to happen. 42 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: No, one hundred percent. We had him on the air 43 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 2: at three and we'll play it again for you. And 44 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: I asked him, I said, can we get excited about this? 45 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: And he said absolutely. So let me give you a hypothetical. 46 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: Let's say I'm your son, which is scary as hell 47 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: to think about that, all right? And I come to 48 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: you and I said, Dad, can I start thinking about this? 49 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: Can I start getting excited about watching a basketball team 50 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: that I can call my own in a couple of years? 51 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 5: What would you say to me if I were your boy? 52 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 3: I would say, did you get your homework today? 53 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 6: No? 54 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 5: Dad, Now answer my question. 55 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 3: I would say, yeah, I think you can. I think 56 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 3: that it's I don't think there's any reason to hold 57 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 3: back anymore. I just feel like it's going to happen 58 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 3: and people need to start acting accordingly and feel free 59 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 3: to get excited. 60 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 4: I think, well, Larry Jackson here and talking about the 61 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 4: other side of it, there are a number of people 62 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 4: who both don't want expansion or don't like the idea 63 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 4: of expansion, some saying it'll dilute the talent pool in 64 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 4: the NBA and teams who are already tanking. You're just 65 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 4: gonna see more tankers and you're gonna see more of 66 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 4: that going on what would you say to the expansion 67 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 4: haters out there? 68 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think some of those, Jackson are within 69 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 3: the NBA, you know, this ownership, and I think they 70 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 3: had to be convinced, and I think the seven billion 71 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 3: dollar price tag was awfully persuasive in that regard. But 72 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 3: I think a lot of those elements are true. But 73 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 3: that doesn't mean that Seattle doesn't deserve to have a team. 74 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 3: And you know, I think I think, I think there's 75 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 3: enough talent to go around that it's not gonna be diluted. 76 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 3: And you know, they're gonna have to come up with 77 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 3: some solutions to tanking. And I'm not smart enough to 78 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 3: know what they are, but I think they probably are 79 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: some out there that could be done. 80 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. 81 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 3: So you know, those are valid concerns, but I don't 82 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 3: think it's enough to stop expansion. 83 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, how do you think this town reacts to it? 84 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: You know, Jackson and Anders were talking off the air 85 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: that when the hockey thing launched, they had what thirty 86 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: two thousand people sign up for tickets. I think all 87 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: of us think the sonic number is going to be 88 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 2: more than that. How do you think this town reacts 89 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 2: when the NBA actually comes back? To town financially and emotionally. 90 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 3: I think initially it's going to be just a rabbit 91 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: buy in. Even the people who have steadfastly say that 92 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 3: they're done with the NBA, they broke their heart, they're 93 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 3: not going to get sucked in again, I think. I 94 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 3: think those people will eventually be sucked in when the 95 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 3: reality of a team coming back comes to fruition. The 96 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 3: long term success, I think will be dependent on how 97 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 3: the team does. There's gonna be there's gonna be some 98 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 3: rocky times early expansion. Not every team could be the 99 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 3: Las Vegas Golden Knights. That just doesn't happen, particularly in 100 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 3: the NBA. But you know historically so it's not the Sonics. 101 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 3: It's an expansion team. And so there'll be some some 102 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 3: tough years. But if they if they become a playoff 103 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 3: team and win, I think that that there's no limits 104 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 3: to the success. If if they continue to struggle, you know, 105 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 3: the entertainment dollar can only go so far and write 106 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 3: so many you know, it's a great we live in 107 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 3: a great time to be in Seattle. There's every sport 108 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 3: is covered from you know, men's, women's, minor sports, major sports. 109 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 3: It's one of the best sports towns in America will be, 110 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 3: particularly when the songs come back. But that means that 111 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 3: the dollar is going to be stretched. So you know, 112 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 3: you've got to once the novelty wears off, you've got 113 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 3: to have a good product. 114 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, we talked about this yesterday. 115 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 2: There's only twelve teams in the country or twelve cities 116 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 2: in the country, Larry, that have all four Big Four teams. 117 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: I think we would be the thirteenth, and then you 118 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: throw in the torrent and the rugby team, and the 119 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: Storm and the Sounders. I think I'm not sure if 120 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 2: there's any market in the country that's got all of them. 121 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: But we were talking about Todd Lai Wiki earlier, and 122 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 2: you know what Todd did for the Seahawks. You know 123 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 2: what he's done for Climate Pledge Arena and for the Kraken. 124 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 2: I don't know, Larry, honestly, if anybody, especially if he 125 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 2: pulls this off with a basketball team, has had a 126 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 2: bigger imprint on Seattle sports than Todd Laiwiki. Where would 127 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 2: you put him on kind of the list of the 128 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 2: most influential sports figures in this town's history. 129 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, he's kind of under the radar in 130 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 3: that regard. You know, I don't know if the average 131 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 3: sports fan knows much more than the name sort of 132 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 3: rings a vague bell. But you're absolutely right when you 133 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 3: had when you can have your your fingerprints on the Seahawks, 134 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 3: the Kraken, and eventually the return of the Sonics, that 135 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 3: puts you maybe at maybe at the top. Yes, and 136 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 3: I think people maybe need to start thinking along those lines. 137 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 3: And when he means to the city and he's just 138 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 3: so well connected, you look at his resume. It's astonishing 139 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 3: the number of roles he's had in various sports in 140 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 3: various cities, not just Seattle. He's been all around, and 141 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 3: now he seems to have settled in Seattle and devoted 142 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 3: himself to Seattle. But that connectedness that he has is 143 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 3: a huge asset for getting a team to come here. 144 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 3: I believe that he. 145 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 2: Lives in Mike Holmgren's old house by the way. I'm 146 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: Mercer Island, and Mike Holmgren lives in the guy that 147 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 2: founded Tall's Camera's house by the way. 148 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 5: So it's just been going down the line between all 149 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 5: three of them. 150 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 3: Well, that's trivia you don't get anywhere else. 151 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 5: That's see, that's why you do this show. 152 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: That's why you come on for your three cheeseburgers a 153 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: week to come on this show for intel like that. 154 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 2: Now you can impress your buddies at Dino's. 155 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 5: By the way, when you do Trivia night. On that note, Larry, Yeah, 156 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 5: there you go. 157 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 4: Bring it out, Larry Stone joining us thanks to the 158 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 4: ram Resavant bride. Larry, you know, in this conversation about expansion, 159 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 4: it certainly sounds like you are ready to say this 160 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 4: is happening. So can we start going down this road 161 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 4: of taking a look at potential coaching hires, potential general managers, 162 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 4: And I mean I'm looking We're at queen An Beer 163 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 4: Hall right now. I'm looking around at jerseys and shirts 164 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 4: and sweatshirts around the room that have about, I don't know, 165 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 4: four or five different logos on them. Can we talk 166 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 4: about exactly what kind of logo this team's gonna Are 167 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 4: you ready to start having these conversations and talk to 168 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 4: you about exactly what the brand of the Seattle Super 169 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 4: Songs in twenty eight will be? 170 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 5: Sure? 171 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:39,719 Speaker 3: I think you could do it in a kind of 172 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 3: a fun way. You know. If it doesn't happen now, 173 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 3: it would be the ultimate blow, you know, I mean, 174 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 3: then if somehow this falls through, then I will never 175 00:08:55,960 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 3: believe again, I don't think. But I mean those are 176 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 3: fun conversations. I don't see why not why you can't 177 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 3: have those starting now. 178 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 5: And so what them? 179 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 3: What that? 180 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 5: What logo you going with? 181 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 3: Then I'm agnostic on that. I'm not a big logo person. 182 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 3: I'm not sure I'd have to look at them and 183 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 3: side by side to make that decision. Well, you know, 184 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 3: I didn't spend my I didn't spend my childhood here, 185 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 3: or you know, I was only here a couple of 186 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 3: years before the team left, so none of that stuff 187 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 3: is sort of ensconced in my consciousness. 188 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: Right Well, I'll just speak for you, Larry, because we're 189 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 2: both Jewish, all right, as as card carrying Jews, I 190 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 2: think we want the one that's going to make the 191 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: most money, and the one that makes the most money 192 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 2: is the uniform that they wore when they won the 193 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 2: title in nineteen seventy nine. 194 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 5: I mean, that is the that is the only correct 195 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 5: answer for you and me to give. 196 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 2: And it's also the best looking, cleanest jersey, by the way, 197 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 2: So go look that one, Larry. The championship jersey in 198 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 2: seventy nine. But it's funny Larry and Larry Stones with 199 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: us courtesy of the RAM. 200 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 5: We're sitting here. We just got text from somebody. 201 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 2: There's there's more conversation today on the air about a 202 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 2: basketball team that we don't have versus a baseball team 203 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 2: that starts tomorrow and a football player in Jackson Smith 204 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 2: and Jigbo who the press conference was today at the 205 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 2: vMac about his new contract. And obviously opening day is tomorrow. 206 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 2: And outside of three or four guys, I mean Ref Schneider, 207 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 2: Donovan Ferrer, Cole Jung, this team looks awfully similar, does 208 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 2: it not to the one team that began the year 209 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 2: last season? 210 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? Well and Naylor too, who wasn't true and they 211 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 3: began this season right yere. But yeah, you know, and 212 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 3: that was a team that came within the you know, 213 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 3: eight out of the World Series, and then I do 214 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 3: believe they've strengthened that team. So, I mean, I've been 215 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 3: looking at the various forecasts and predictions, and boy, everybody 216 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 3: is so high on the members this year that it's 217 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 3: kind of it's kind of scary. Everybody is picking them 218 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 3: to win the Pennant at least and many are picking 219 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 3: them to win the World Series. You know, they're the 220 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 3: third betting favorite in Vegas. It's just it's all laid 221 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 3: out for them this year. You know, they have they 222 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 3: they really have every element that a team looks for 223 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 3: if people perform to their capabilities and stay healthy. Right, 224 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 3: this isn't a really really good team, maybe the best 225 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 3: team that they've had since the two thousand and one team. 226 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: So outside of the obvious, right, which people say things like, well, 227 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 2: you know, injuries, what anybody can say that, Okay, everybody 228 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 2: deals with that. 229 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 5: Outside of the obvious, which is. 230 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 2: The injuries and blah blah blah, What's what's keeping this 231 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: from happening? What would hold this team back from making 232 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 2: up those eight outs and not playing in the World Series. 233 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, bullpens are very volatile. On paper, this 234 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 3: looks like to me, looks like an outstanding bullpen. But 235 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 3: you know, from year to year, sometimes guys just don't 236 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 3: pitch the way they did. Who's to say Bizzarto is 237 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 3: going to have the same year and he was so 238 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 3: valuable for them last year Vargas spired. So the bullpen 239 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 3: is just a concern just because of the volatility of bullpens. 240 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 3: But they mean Munos is a top three closer in 241 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 3: this league and brashes top three setup guys, So you know, 242 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 3: at the top of the bullpen they should be strong. 243 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 3: But and then the bottom of the batting order maybe 244 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 3: could be a concern. We saw it in the playoffs 245 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 3: last year once they got once they got to six, seven, 246 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 3: eight nine, it was just the death valley, you know, 247 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 3: And I think that that's part of the team should 248 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 3: be fine. I've been really impressed with Cole Young in 249 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 3: particular in spring training, and I think he's poised to 250 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 3: be a real contributor for this team. But those are 251 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 3: probably the two things that, you know, beyond injuries, as 252 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 3: you said, which is pretty trite to point out, that 253 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 3: would concern me. 254 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 4: Well, Larry, I mean that's kind of where I'm at 255 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 4: right now as I look at this team on paper, 256 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 4: and sure they they were kind of hoping for, you know, 257 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 4: the injuries to to flip the other way, But on paper, 258 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 4: I'm just not seeing this team massively improved from the 259 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 4: second half of team of last year. I mean, I 260 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 4: know what Sworez did when he was here, but he's 261 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 4: still gone. Polonco. Can they replace Polonko with just Donovan. 262 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 4: I'm wondering, on paper, is this team actually measurably better 263 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 4: than they were, say in September last year, when also 264 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 4: you look at a Toronto team where they didn't get worse? 265 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 4: And I so, I guess I'm I'm a little bit 266 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 4: hesitant to say they're the favorite that everybody else thinks 267 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 4: they are. 268 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 3: Well, you are a negative Nelly, you are. 269 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 5: I don't. I don't want to. 270 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 4: I don't want to make myself believe because I don't 271 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 4: want to lose the You know, if if you if 272 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,359 Speaker 4: you expect disappointment, you never get disappointed. 273 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 3: Well, I I just don't see it that way. Uh 274 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 3: Nayler here. For the whole year going to September last year, 275 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 3: Wu was on the disabled list and was hardly a 276 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 3: factor through the playoffs. Sworez as much as everyone loves him, 277 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 3: and the biggest hit of the year in the in 278 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 3: the playoffs. He was a sub two hundred hitter last year, 279 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 3: and he's been replaced in the in the field with 280 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 3: Brendan Donovan, who's just what this team needs and on 281 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 3: base guy contact guy who on basis three fifty plus 282 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 3: and seems like the perfect table setter for this team. 283 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 3: The back end of the bullpen should be stronger. With Ferrara, 284 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 3: they're gonna miss Polanco. That's where Cole Young there's a 285 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 3: lot of pressure on him to match Cole Young. But 286 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 3: I just think, I mean, sure, they could have made 287 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 3: some more impact moves, but I think the moves they've 288 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 3: made were pretty were pretty good, And just the core 289 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 3: of this team, I think it's strong enough that really 290 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 3: I don't see I don't see any way that I 291 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 3: would be shocked if they didn't win the division. To 292 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 3: be honest, I usually don't have that kind of optimism. Wow, 293 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 3: I just look at it. I'm just real high on 294 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 3: this team when I look at when I look at 295 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 3: the totality of what they have. 296 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 2: All Right, I'm putting the Mortga experiment on them. Win 297 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 2: the West, all Right, it doesn't happen. I'm coming after you. Well, 298 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 2: here's the thing, Larry, before you go, I mean, the 299 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 2: better plan. I'm getting there now, because who knows how 300 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 2: long it's going to be until they're playing baseball again. 301 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 5: Are we are we looking at a workstoppers after this year? 302 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 3: I think we're looking at a work stoppage, a lockout. 303 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 3: The question is will it be resolved in time so 304 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 3: that they don't lose baseball, which is what happened last time, 305 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 3: or was it twenty one, I can't remember exactly when 306 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 3: it was. You know, there was a lockout. They settled 307 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 3: it in March. They had an abbreviated spring training and 308 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 3: they didn't miss any games. That's what I'm hoping that 309 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 3: the outcome will be this time. But you know, by 310 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 3: all accounts, both sides are sort of entrenched and and 311 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 3: this time the owners seem adamant about trying to get 312 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 3: a salary cap. 313 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 5: Right. 314 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 3: You know, I've seen it before. They've been wanting a 315 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 3: salary cap since the nineteen eighties. They've always they've always 316 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 3: lost whenever every labor stoppage and dispute they've had has 317 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 3: has not resulted in a salary cap. And you know, 318 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 3: is the union more vulnerable now, maybe, But I still 319 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 3: think that that if they're not going to get a 320 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 3: salary cap, they'll get some some form of salary relief. 321 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 3: And I just hope there's a compromise out there that 322 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 3: that can get this thing. That could lead to a 323 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 3: little bit more parody, a little bit more the lack 324 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 3: of disparity in the payrolls and mostly just keep baseball 325 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 3: going because it's got a good thing going right now. 326 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, no, no, there it's growing for sure, 327 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 2: no doubt. All right, Larry great stuff. By this time 328 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: next week the M's will be off and running with 329 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 2: the Guardians and Yankee Series, and negative Nellie is like 330 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 2: Jackson can shut the hell. 331 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 5: Up when the start. 332 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 2: I'm scared to believe when the M's have started six 333 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 2: and OHO in their first six games, Larry, great stuff. 334 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: Man fired up to have you back on the air 335 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 2: with us this week or this year, Curtesy of the RAM, 336 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 2: and we'll talk on Wednesday. 337 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 3: Man, thanks, sorry, all right, happy to be back, sank. 338 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 5: You bet Larry Stone with us on the air. 339 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 2: It's funny we're talking about the Sonics today a lot 340 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 2: with this thing from the border governors that came down. 341 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 2: They want to move ahead exploring expansion and teams. Leaving 342 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 2: Larry mentioning the lockout. You know ninety four there was 343 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 2: a lockout at the end of the of the year 344 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 2: or midway through the year actually, like August or whatever. 345 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 2: And the Montreal Expos were seventy four and forty. They 346 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 2: had the best record in baseball and if they win 347 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 2: the World Series that year, they may have never left Montreal. 348 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 2: Who knows, man, who knows what would have happened. So 349 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 2: you got a chance, you gotta grab it because you 350 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 2: never know when it's coming back. We're going to break, 351 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 2: We're gonna come back. And here's some of your reactions. Talkbacks. 352 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 2: Jump on the iHeart app, hit that little microphone, leave 353 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 2: us a message, and you tell us if you are 354 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 2: now to believe you. 355 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 5: Ever see the movie Temple to Doom? Yes, are you 356 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 5: a true Buliua? 357 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 2: Next in the Sonics returning, are you now buying it 358 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 2: that they're coming back? Or do you need to see 359 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 2: a little more. We'll get some of your reactions on 360 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 2: the talkback line. Next on ninety three to three KJRFM. 361 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: From the R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. Now 362 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: back to SOFTI and Dick on your home for the Huskies, 363 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: Kraken and the twelfth Man Sports Radio. Ninety three point 364 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: three kJ R FM got. 365 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 2: Off tony three year haul, getting ready for Well, we've 366 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 2: already had the announcement. I was gonna say, we're getting 367 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 2: ready for some big news for the NBA, But the 368 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 2: NBA has already come down with the big news. 369 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 5: If you're just tuning in. 370 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 2: If you have a real job and you can't listen 371 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 2: to sports talker radio all day, first of all, you 372 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 2: should quit and get a fun job like us. Born 373 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 2: of governors voting yesterday for the league to explore bids 374 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 2: and applications for teams in Seattle. In Las Vegas, they've 375 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 2: sickly have announced that they have two teams up for 376 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 2: sale and they want to find out where they can 377 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 2: get for them. If they get what they want, they'll 378 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 2: likely sell them both. If they don't, then there's a 379 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 2: chance that they won't. So if everything falls into place, 380 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 2: and the Samantha Holloway led group with Todd Lai Wicki 381 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 2: and Ken Griffy Junior might be a part of that 382 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 2: as well, who knows, maybe Jeff Bezos's ex wife, what's 383 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 2: her name, Mackenzie McKenzie's gonna get involved. There's gonna be 384 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 2: no shortage of money. I can tell you that right 385 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 2: now that it will not be a problem here in Seattle. 386 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 2: So today is a very very big day. I think 387 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 2: a gigantic step in getting the Sonics back, and I 388 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 2: feel like they are coming back. 389 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 5: So let's get your talkbacks. 390 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 2: All right, hit that little microphone on the iHeart app 391 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 2: and leave us a message, and you're ready now to 392 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 2: dive in with both feet, do a belly flap, which 393 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 2: hurts like hell, by the way, and start assuming that 394 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 2: we are getting basketball back in Seattle. 395 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 5: It's not only a matter of when, not if. Andrews, 396 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 5: what do you back there. 397 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 7: In the Jackson and Softy with no Dick Chris Brian, 398 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 7: I am very happy for everyone who's been waiting decades 399 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 7: for the Sonics to come back, who thinks that this 400 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 7: is an absolute and for those that love the NBA, 401 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,239 Speaker 7: even though I don't understand why, because you had an 402 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 7: active coach and active players fixing games to win bets. 403 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 7: You've got the biggest joke of a draft in a 404 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 7: professional league, and you've got all the tanking, You've got 405 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 7: all these people sitting out like, no, dude, I'm not 406 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 7: excited at all. 407 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 5: First of all, I love the Dick reference. Yes, that's true. 408 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 5: This man has no Dick. 409 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 2: And then second of all, hey, look I get it, 410 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: and I think I think that guy. I think when 411 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 2: the Soups come back and people are excited, the excitement 412 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 2: is going to be infectious. 413 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 5: I really do believe that, Jackson. 414 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 2: I think it spreads like herpes, and it's never going away, right, Okay, 415 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: it's going to follow you anywhere. Okay, it will never 416 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 2: ever be cured. Right, the infection will never stop. And 417 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 2: if they win games, you'll be even more fired up. 418 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 2: So hey, look, man, I think people have their own 419 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 2: little defense mechanisms, you know, when you get screwed by somebody. 420 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 2: Let's face it, the NBA fan in Seattle doesn't really 421 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 2: have a lot of options to fight back. One of 422 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 2: the ways they can fight back is just by being 423 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: pissed and saying nasty things about the league. 424 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 5: So I totally get that. I got no problem with it. 425 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 4: Man, Well, you are right that this will be infectious metaphor. Yeah, 426 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 4: that's a weird one, but you're absolutely right. And I 427 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 4: think there's there's a lot of people. And again, I 428 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 4: don't mean to take the direct shot at Dick Fane, 429 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 4: but I know it kind of interact and indirectly does. 430 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 4: I don't want Sonic fans who believe right now to 431 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 4: just crush anybody who a doesn't believe or B says 432 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 4: I'm never gonna watch the product. 433 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 8: It's a terrible product. I'm not, you know, not gonna 434 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 8: watch the NBA ever. 435 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 5: Again. 436 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 4: We don't need the vilification and we don't need we 437 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 4: know that it's going to be infectious. And if somebody 438 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 4: says right now, I'm never gonna watch the Sonics and 439 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 4: I hate the NBA and it's dead to me, then okay, 440 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 4: leave yourself the opening, and we leave you the opening 441 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 4: of eventually coming back, because that infection will take over. 442 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 4: It's a very fun one and it's a very good one. 443 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 4: And when the Sonics are at there, yeah, well I'm 444 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 4: about fun and good. But when they're at their best, 445 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 4: this will be a fun thing to have in the 446 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 4: town and a positive thing. 447 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 8: And if you want to jump back on the bandwagon 448 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 8: in eight years when they're going to an NBA finals. 449 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 5: Please well join us. Here's the thing, man. 450 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 2: In the end, I think the people that say things 451 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 2: like that that people that have the most the strongest 452 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 2: opinions sometimes tend to be the ones that are the 453 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 2: most emotionally invested in is the ones that are hurt 454 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 2: the most by this, The ones that love it the 455 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 2: most are the ones that get the most angry, like, 456 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 2: screw these guys, I hate them, But why do you 457 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 2: hate them because they broke your heart. That's why you 458 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 2: hate them. And look, every league has issues. Every league 459 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 2: has some kind of problem over the course of history. 460 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 2: And I don't really any issue saying it. The guy's right, 461 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 2: the NBA's got some problems right now. They have to addressed. 462 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 2: Whether the Sonics are playing or not, they have issues 463 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 2: they have to address. All right, Andrews, what's next? 464 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 9: Hey, guys, I don't blame anyone for being skeptical, but 465 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 9: today I'm daring to dream. Thinking about Seattle going from 466 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 9: a two major sport town at the turn of the 467 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 9: decade to a four sport major city by twenty twenty eight. 468 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 9: It's a pretty cool time and I'm gonna enjoy it. 469 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 5: Super Sonics. 470 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 2: I just wonder how much, and you asked, Larry Stone Jackson, 471 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 2: how much can we start talking about, you know, coaches 472 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 2: and things like that. I mean, I'll give you one 473 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 2: name of a guy that I think there's a good 474 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 2: chance in a couple of years he's involved with this franchise, 475 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 2: and that's Steve Kerr. 476 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 5: Just keep that in the back of your head. I 477 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 5: love that. 478 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 2: Keep Steve Kerr's name in the back of your head. 479 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 2: We can talk about that later on. I'm not necessarily 480 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 2: saying as a head coach, but I think there's a 481 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 2: chance that Steve Kerr is involved in this thing somehow, someway. 482 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 5: The glory days of the Warriors are coming. 483 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 2: To an end, the run is coming to an end 484 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 2: in Golden State, and I think Steve Kerr. How many 485 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 2: coaches out there have mentioned the Sonics as much as 486 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 2: Steve Kerr has. There's connections there, there's relationships. So just 487 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 2: remember this when it happens. I told you on March 488 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 2: twenty fifth, twenty twenty six, don't forget that name because 489 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 2: he's going to be involved. But I you know there's 490 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 2: going to be a nostalgia portion of this, like the 491 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 2: first night when they introduced the team. Are they using 492 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 2: Run like Hell by Pink Floyd when they raise the banner? 493 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 2: Do they raise all of them at one time or 494 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 2: do we have separate nights where they all go back 495 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 2: up individually and then we do Gary and then we 496 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 2: do Sean. Eventually, as Larry said, we're going to expect 497 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 2: some wins, okay, but the Sonics will be able to 498 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 2: do something that the Kraken we're not able to do, 499 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 2: and that's cash in on some history for a couple 500 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 2: of years, if not maybe a year, because they've got 501 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 2: it and bringing it back and reminding people we of it. 502 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 2: That's something the Kraken team couldn't do. So there's gonna 503 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 2: be a part of that that I'm honestly looking forward. 504 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 8: To, big to one hundred percent. 505 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 4: I would also say that whatever you do, NBA, please 506 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 4: don't schedule the thunder is. 507 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 5: The first game they won't. 508 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 4: Just schedule it hopefully an easy win, but make this 509 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 4: you know, obviously the Cracking done such a great job 510 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 4: with their game presentations on the Phenomena game. 511 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 8: You know that's gonna be good out of. 512 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:23,719 Speaker 5: The Sonics, right. 513 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 4: The only question is, yeah, how quickly do you rush 514 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 4: the rafters? How quickly do you bring back all that 515 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 4: nostalgia milk? And I would say, let us, let. 516 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 5: Us enjoy it, absolutely, yeah, no doubt. 517 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 2: I mean, how many expansion franchises can bring back fifty 518 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 2: players that played for the previous version of that team. 519 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 2: I mean it's like when the Texans went to Houston, 520 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 2: did they bring back a bunch of oiler guys? When 521 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 2: the Ravens showed up in Baltimore, was Johnny Unitis there 522 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 2: when the Cleveland Browns came back version two, it was 523 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 2: not very long after the first version left. But I'm 524 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 2: sure they brought back a bunch of guys as well. 525 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 2: So NBA, I mean, I'm trying to think of in 526 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 2: the NBA, how many like like like Charlotte for example, 527 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 2: when they lost their team originally and then brought back 528 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 2: the new version was Grandmama. There was Larry Johnson there. 529 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 2: I got no idea. All right, Andrews, what's next? 530 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 6: I guess it's okay, they're coming. 531 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 3: But I didn't miss them. 532 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 6: You remember when they were here and they got good. 533 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 6: They blacked out a bunch of their games. I couldn't 534 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 6: afford to take my kids, who are now grown. 535 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 8: And I couldn't watch them on TV. 536 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 6: I don't give a hoot if they come or they don't. 537 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 6: The NBA game now is crap anyway, I haven't watched 538 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 6: one single live play yet this year. 539 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't care. Yeah you will when they come back. 540 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 5: And I get it. 541 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 2: The reason why you haven't watched this because you got 542 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 2: no dog in the hunt. Totally understand that, man, absolutely 543 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 2: one thousand percent understand that. Let me ask you guys 544 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 2: a question. How much hockey. Did you watch before the 545 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 2: Kraken came here? 546 00:26:58,359 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, Stanley Cup Final? 547 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 5: I was it right, exactly. Maybe you'll watch the NBA finals, 548 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 5: maybe you'll watch the conference finals. 549 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 2: But you're not supposed to. Here's the thing about this, 550 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 2: and people will look at that talkback as a negative. 551 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 2: You're not supposed to be as invested when you don't 552 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 2: have any dog in the hunt. You're not supposed to 553 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 2: be as fired up as you were when you had 554 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 2: a basketball team because it's not for you. We are 555 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 2: way more invested in the NHL now because we have 556 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 2: the hockey team. 557 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 5: So all of this makes total sense. 558 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 2: None of it is a surprise to me, and none 559 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 2: of it is actually anything I'm even remotely concerned about. Guys, 560 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 2: we're gonna break a little fun with audio NBA edition 561 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 2: and then Todd li Wicki you canna join at six 562 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 2: on ninety three three KJARFM. 563 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 5: It's now time for someday in Digg's Fun with Audio. 564 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 5: Jimmy g. 565 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 8: Paunst Jimmy, mister Daroppolo. 566 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 5: Now let's have some fun with. 567 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 2: Audio, all right, little fun with audio from the Queen 568 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 2: Anne Meer Hall on this Wednesday afternoon right here on 569 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 2: ninety three three k JRFM. I hear from Tim, Tim Todd, 570 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 2: Brother Tod Tok Tok Todd Lwiki will join us coming 571 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 2: up next segment if you missed it. 572 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 5: At three o'clock. 573 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 2: Some thoughts from Todd on how much Sonic fans should 574 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 2: just sit back and accept that this team is on 575 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 2: the way back or should we be a little more 576 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 2: hesitant than that. We'll talk to Todd about that next 577 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,239 Speaker 2: segment on the air. Here we go a little fun 578 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 2: with audio. Hey Jackson, do you happen to hear that? 579 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 5: What's that Dave? What's that Dick? 580 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 2: We start this morning on ESPN. Brian Windhorst declared that 581 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 2: the SuperSonics are coming back and discuss the expansion situation 582 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 2: with regard to buildings and bids the sales. 583 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 10: SuperSonics are coming back. This is definitely going forward. They 584 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 10: would not have put the vote today unless they knew 585 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 10: they were getting all thirty votes. It's been under it's 586 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 10: been under process for about five six years. Yeah, there's 587 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 10: actually multiple competing bids in Las Vegas to build this 588 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 10: an arena already that have been in the process for years. 589 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 10: There's the arena they renovated in Seattle, which they finished 590 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 10: renovation four or five years ago, was designed to house 591 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 10: its radics when they came back. This has been in 592 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 10: the process for four or five years, and I would 593 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 10: say it's accelerated over the last six to nine months. 594 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 10: There are already multiple groups that are prepared to make 595 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 10: bids for these expansion teams. Now, whether or not they'll 596 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 10: all come to fruition, whether or not we'll truly have 597 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 10: multiple bidders at the price the MBA want. Sure, that's 598 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 10: what we're gonna do. But what just announced with those 599 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 10: words in this vote was, ladies and gentlemen, if you 600 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 10: want this team, start your engines. 601 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 5: Okay. 602 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 2: So I can hear people saying, why would somebody be 603 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 2: running to build an arena to pay for it themselves 604 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 2: to get an NBA team. Here's why, Because Clay Bennett 605 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 2: in two thousand and seven bought the Sonics from Howard 606 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 2: Schultz for three hundred and fifty million dollars. Nineteen years 607 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 2: later in a dump like Oklahoma City that are worth 608 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 2: four billion dollars. 609 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 5: That's why. 610 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 2: That's why, because every penny you spend comes back to 611 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 2: you exponentially when it comes to these teams. So I'm 612 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 2: not surprised to hear when Horse say that there's gonna 613 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 2: be multiple bidders for both teams and multiple people in 614 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 2: Vegas running to build an arena. 615 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 4: Having a franchise in Las Vegas is the rising tide 616 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 4: that raises all boats. The value of your media rights 617 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 4: goes up, the value of everything will just I mean, 618 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 4: think about where we're gonna be sitting in the sports 619 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 4: world in say twenty years. 620 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 8: Especially with this changing state of college sports. 621 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 4: Like come on, like the money involved in professional sports 622 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 4: now can go to twenty years ago. Push it another 623 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 4: twenty years, It'll be astronomical. 624 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 2: Everybody wants a piece man, all right, Ny Jackson Japan 625 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 2: to hear that. 626 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 5: What's that, Dick, Let's go to number two. 627 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 2: At a press conference Monday, Warriors head coach Steve Kerr 628 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 2: reminisced over facing the great Sonics teams of the nineties 629 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 2: and talked about how much the NBA needs to be 630 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 2: in Seattle once again. 631 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 11: You know, those teams were really iconic with Sean Camp 632 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 11: and Gary Paton, that love, Nate McMillan, hercy it was. 633 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 11: They were a great team. But more importantly Seattle it's 634 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 11: one of the iconic franchises. 635 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 4: In the NBA. 636 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 11: I was shocked when the league left Seattle. You know, 637 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 11: incredible fan base, great basketball market, a ton of talent 638 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 11: coming from Seattle, you know, top ten media market, credible 639 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 11: sports city. So it was kind of shocking to all 640 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 11: of us when the league left Seattle, and I think 641 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 11: we all hoped that it would be a lot sooner 642 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 11: than eighteen nineteen years whatever it's going to be before 643 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 11: they got back in the league. So I would love 644 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 11: to see Seattle and the Sonics come back. They belong 645 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 11: in that city, and a team belongs there those fans deserve. 646 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 5: I'm telling you, I think at some point in time, 647 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 5: he's going to be a part of us. 648 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 2: And I think there's going to be a lot of 649 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 2: big names guys running flocking to Seattle to want to 650 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 2: be a this. You remember who Chris Hansen was going 651 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 2: to hire to run the thing? Is Phil Jackson? Oh 652 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 2: in twenty eleven. Wow, I mean not that Phil Jackson 653 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 2: is the Phil Jackson now that he was twenty years ago. 654 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 2: I get that, But there's gonna be a lot of 655 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 2: big names gonna be running to Seattle to be a 656 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 2: part of this. 657 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 5: For sure. Let's go to three Hey, Jackson, do you 658 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 5: happen to hear that? 659 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 8: What's that? 660 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 5: What's that? 661 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 3: Dick? 662 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 2: On Bill Simmons Ringer podcast last week, the longtime sports 663 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 2: media personality explained why he is against the NBA expanding. 664 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 12: I've had people say to me like, hey Simmons, you're 665 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,479 Speaker 12: the ones saying how deep the league is. Why wouldn't 666 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 12: you want expansion. Here's why I don't want expansion because 667 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,479 Speaker 12: we have nine teams that don't give any right now 668 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 12: in a thirty team league. The last thing we need 669 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 12: to do is add two more teams that don't give it. 670 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 12: Dy either need to fix he don't give it a 671 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 12: part about the eighty two game season, or they need 672 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 12: to relocate two teams and do that as an expansion. 673 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 12: I cannot accept. As somebody who loves basketball, I cannot 674 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 12: accept adding two expansion teams and having eleven tanking teams 675 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 12: three seasons from now instead of nine. I just don't 676 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,239 Speaker 12: see how that's a good product. I don't see how 677 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 12: that helps anybody. If they do this, it's a money grab. 678 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 12: This is a money grab. This is going to make 679 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 12: the league worse. I will plant my flag in that. 680 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 5: Well, look, it may make the league worse. I don't know. 681 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 5: I don't really give a damn because I want my 682 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 5: team back. But he may he may be right that 683 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 5: it may make the league worse, but it makes us better. 684 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 5: Switches fine for me. 685 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 2: And his point about it being a money grab, well, 686 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 2: no kidding, of course it's a money grab. It's six 687 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty six million dollars per owner if both 688 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 2: these teams go for ten billion bucks minimum three thirty 689 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 2: three apiece, if it goes for ten billion dollars a piece, 690 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 2: So everything is a money grab. Everything is a money grab. 691 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 2: Here's the thing that I'm trying to figure out, guys. 692 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,959 Speaker 2: So the taking thing in the NBA is a problem. 693 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 2: Like if you guys seen some of the scores, they're disastrous. 694 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 2: That doesn't seem to be a big problem in the 695 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 2: NFL in December except for like Week eighteen, And it 696 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 2: doesn't seem to be a big problem in baseball. 697 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 5: Why is it a bit problem in the NBA. 698 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 4: Well, I think what you have is in the NBA, 699 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 4: certain drafts obviously have certain top level talent where it's worth, 700 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 4: and also true in the NFL. Once you get kind 701 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 4: of late, you realize, all right, these teams with one, two, 702 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 4: maybe three wins. They're not gonna get caught for these games. 703 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 4: They're gonna they're gonna probably lose out. They're just bad teams. 704 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 4: In the NBA, the lottery allows it where hey, you 705 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 4: could finish with the fifth worst record, but your chances 706 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 4: of getting that number one pick just get better better 707 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 4: if you become the fifth to the fourth first teams 708 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 4: so ugly what happens is it's a situation where I 709 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,760 Speaker 4: think you have to make it. Obviously there's a solution 710 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 4: to be made, but you have to make it where 711 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 4: you don't get twenty games left and everybody who is 712 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 4: within ten games of the two, three four spots lose. 713 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 8: To try to get that higher chance, you have to 714 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 8: change the system. Understated, it's the nature of basketball. 715 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 4: If you get one player, one superstar, it changes your 716 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 4: entire franchise. That does not happen in football, y build 717 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 4: an entire team, so that's why they tank for one player. 718 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 2: And let's face it, in baseball, hey, if your team sucks, 719 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 2: at least we can bring up guys like Harry Ford 720 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 2: and Colin Emerson right and watch them play and get 721 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 2: some experience, you know, from those guys. 722 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 5: Man so yeah, I mean, it does need to be addressed. 723 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 5: But Bill Simmons may be right. 724 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 2: I think we're being naive if we just ignore that 725 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 2: there is a chance that this waters down the product 726 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 2: even more. I don't care in the NBA career, but 727 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 2: I don't care, and the owners don't care, and Seattle 728 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 2: fans don't care. Water it down, have it be the 729 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 2: worst product ever. We don't give an f We're gonna break. 730 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 2: We're gonna hear from Todd Lai Wiki next on ninety 731 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 2: three to three KJRFM.