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Speaker 1: Is then, of course, the return of Jack Windsor, editor

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Jack Winsor. It's great to have you on

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Speaker 2: Sir so.

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Speaker 3: Operation Buck Guy, as you know, was a deliberate, high

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Speaker 3: My understanding is up to three hundred additional ICE agents

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Speaker 3: and the operation underscores a resolute stance on immigration enforcement,

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Speaker 3: of course from the Trump administration, and the last tally

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Speaker 3: There are watchers and trackers still telling us that ICE

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Speaker 3: my strong contact at the Department of Homeland Security, to

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Speaker 3: figure out where that operation has turned. But there have

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Speaker 1: Okay, when you mentioned the two undred and eighty arrest figure,

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Speaker 3: Well, my understanding is that is all over the Buckeye.

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Speaker 2: Stick, oh the whole state of Ohio.

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Speaker 1: That seems like an extraordinarily low figure, unless, of course,

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Speaker 3: Well, I can tell you that we've sent one hundred

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Speaker 2: To tell you what Jack hold on.

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Speaker 1: Since you're gonna get granular, and I'm at eight thirty five,

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Speaker 1: let's bring you back and then you can get granular. Well,

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Speaker 1: now I'll be it's very interesting stuff here. Jack's being

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Speaker 1: Great site, bookmarket WHI you're there, you'd be glad you

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Speaker 2: More with Jack Winsor after these brief.

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Speaker 1: Hey thirty nine here for the bove KRCD talk station

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Speaker 1: Brian Thomas with I can see him, you can Jack

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Speaker 1: Windsor he's at the ohio Press Network. Great stuff from

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Speaker 1: Jack and all those who help support a hiopress network.

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Speaker 1: You can do the same thing. Just bookmark the site,

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Speaker 1: read what he's got to say, and of course support

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Speaker 1: the site information they provide. Jack Winsor we're sticking with ice.

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Speaker 1: You're getting ready to get what you called granular. And

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Speaker 1: remember I've got a weed dwelling audience. Jack, So don't

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Speaker 1: But give us the straight to the straight skinny there, Jack.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'll just I'll keep it simple. So DHS

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Speaker 3: Would seem to be the case. We're still trying to

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Speaker 1: It's the commission of any American citizens get arrested for

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Speaker 1: So in other words, we're analogous to the situation that

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Speaker 3: I would say yes, And in fact, I don't know

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Speaker 3: His name is John Rocker for former Major League Baseball star.

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Speaker 3: He came to Columbus, Ohio to check it out and

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Speaker 1: Wow, But trying to claw back six million dollars from

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Speaker 1: Jack Windsor, I mean, I got to this is statement,

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Speaker 3: Yes, it is. And look if the Wine is going

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Speaker 3: so we've heard this from everything is fine to Wine before,

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Speaker 3: right Brian, where he's come out and said, oh, you know,

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Speaker 3: We broke that story billions of dollars. The director left,

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Speaker 1: with the aftermath of that, Jack.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so let me can I sprint through what was

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Speaker 3: do want to point out that Governor DeWine did veto,

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Speaker 3: as you mentioned, four provisions in the biennial budget. But

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Speaker 3: that's exactly what happened. It was political theater that delayed

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Speaker 3: taxpayer relief. Yet again, congratulations to Wine, but some bills

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Speaker 3: Bill one twenty four is a foundational reform on how

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Speaker 3: One twenty six fundamentally shifts the burden invaluation challenges, so

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Speaker 3: it basically says, prove it instead of requiring the homeowner

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Speaker 3: it flips the script there.

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Speaker 1: On that note, Jack, real quick, here they have to

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Speaker 1: provide the comps that they use in determining your homes valuation.

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Speaker 2: That's right. That's wonderful. Okay, I like that.

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Speaker 3: It's great, Yeah it is, it's fantastic. Sorry to sprint

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Speaker 3: House Built one twenty nine addresses long standing school funding

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Speaker 3: by expanding the twenty mil floor to encompass fixed some levees,

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Speaker 3: emergency substitute growth, and overall the adjustment should lower the

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Speaker 3: be the most impactful, which introduces the inflation cap credit

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Speaker 3: annually review school district levees for over collections in any

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Speaker 3: and those excesses can be returned, which is huge. And

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Speaker 3: unvoted inside millaged and that's like you know, German to me,

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Speaker 3: but it is a form of relief. But here's the

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Speaker 3: eight hundred pound gorilla in the room. I think that

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Speaker 3: to be the state government. It's going to be there

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Speaker 3: are over sixty five hundred taxing authorities in the Buckeye State.

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Speaker 3: That should shock everybody. Yeah, but police stations, fire stations,

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Speaker 3: cheese might get moved, Brian, and I think that's the

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Speaker 3: big conversation that we're going to talk about in the

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Speaker 2: How about that?

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Speaker 1: Well, recognizing how federal government works, which is hurry up.

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Speaker 1: Going back to one of your points about returning over

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Speaker 1: they're not going to get anymore. Who in the hell,

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Speaker 1: what school district got there is ever going to write

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Speaker 1: a check to return unspent funds. Don't you think this

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Speaker 3: Potentially, But I think what we're going to see, so

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Speaker 3: follow me on this. It's kind of complex. It hurts

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Speaker 3: my brain. Yes, However, that makes it incumbent upon the

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Speaker 3: to clamor. But secondly, state Representative Mike Devilla is at

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Speaker 3: it again. He's introducing a bill called the zero based Budget,

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Speaker 3: which would require because states will likely take on more

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Speaker 3: responsibility in funding schools, yes they will. So now if

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Speaker 3: And it's like peeling all the paint off steal before

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Speaker 3: you paint it again. You've got to prove that you

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Speaker 3: need this money. I like that.

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Speaker 1: I love it too, because they sell us to bill

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Speaker 1: the goods locally, Oh we need this.

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Speaker 2: The whole place is falling apart.

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Speaker 1: But when you got people in Columbus who have no

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Speaker 1: it with a clearer set of eyes. Jack wins or.

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Speaker 1: So that's you know what positive news, and I'm glad

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Speaker 1: we're going in the right direction. And I'm just waiting

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Speaker 1: to see what else has done because, like you said, man,

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Speaker 1: you know, if they unglue, if they take property taxes away,

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Speaker 1: the whole place is like, oh my god, what are

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Speaker 1: we gonna do? Jack went to find him online. Go

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Speaker 1: to the Ohio pressnetwork dot com. Excellent reporting there. Get

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Speaker 1: a subscription.

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Speaker 2: Jack.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to have you back on the fifty

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Speaker 1: five Caresing morning. S Jope, you have a wonderful weekend.

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Speaker 3: It's an honor. Thank you, Brian, and thank you Joe.

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Speaker 3: God bless you have a great weekend.

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Speaker 2: And you sir eight fifty six early on the program,