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Speaker 1: Follow me on Twitter at Mark madden X. Let's bring

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Speaker 1: on Tommy Radio. Tom have you formulated a mock draft?

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Speaker 1: Who was your pick at number twenty one?

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Speaker 2: I'm not even just saying this. I'm on the Vega

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Speaker 2: train too. I like calling him Vega too, because that

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Speaker 2: last name is a little bit tricky.

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Speaker 3: Yna. Is that what it is? That's how you pronounce it.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure to go with Vega, but he just seems

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Speaker 2: like shoot it up on YouTube. He seems like such

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Speaker 2: a perfect fit and obviously perfect. They need a guard

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Speaker 2: and mark. Everything I read about him, like the experts

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Speaker 2: on this field say that he can't miss, like his

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Speaker 2: floor is extremely high. So I like, do you think

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Speaker 2: he'll be there at twenty one? That's the tricky thing.

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Speaker 2: I think he might have to trade up.

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Speaker 3: I would trade up though.

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Speaker 2: You have all the capital in the world to do so,

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Speaker 2: you have twelve picks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it would make sense to do that.

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't make sense, not too so. I expect that

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Speaker 1: they will not now if they if they, if they

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Speaker 1: don't take a guy to help right now, like a

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Speaker 1: Yowana or a receiver that jumps right in the lineup.

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Speaker 3: Number three, number two, whatever.

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Speaker 1: If they don't take a pick for right now, it'll

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Speaker 1: be contradictory because with the forty two year old quarterback,

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Speaker 1: you're not laying groundwork for the future. Any pick but

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Speaker 1: a guard or why not is contradictory.

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Speaker 2: Probably, although there are some other positions that I would

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Speaker 2: say they definitely need help in right now, Like if

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Speaker 2: they took a defensive tackle, couldn't you talk yourself into

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Speaker 2: that guy helps right now? They've been lacking on the

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Speaker 2: defensive line other than Cam Heyward for sure.

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Maybe, I mean you just took you did Harman?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, no question, same thing if you were to say,

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Speaker 2: what if they take a tackle, you just took two

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Speaker 2: tackles in the previous first rounds past couple of years.

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Speaker 1: Well, now you're pointing out and logically so that there's

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Speaker 1: too many holes to fill in one draft and they're

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Speaker 1: not even remotely contenders for anything.

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Speaker 2: But as far as like the position that you would pick,

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Speaker 2: that would be I completely on the future. Isn't there

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Speaker 2: really only one in that's quarterback? And I just don't

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Speaker 2: think that Ty Simpson's that guy.

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Speaker 3: Well swa Goo from ESPN.

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Speaker 1: We got a sound bite from him later where he

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Speaker 1: points that what nobody in Pittsburgh wants to accept, let

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Speaker 1: alone the people running the Steelers, and that is that

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Speaker 1: until they get that quarterback, they're hopeless. They will not

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Speaker 1: remotely contend for what people traditionally think the Steelers should.

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Speaker 1: They need to go four and thirteen one year, and

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Speaker 1: until they do, this is a no hope franchise.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you hear people sometimes argue it's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: well they go four and thirteen, then it's a terrible team.

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Speaker 2: What's the quarterback gonna do everything. Look at Joe Burrow

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Speaker 2: in the Bengals. They have completely done a one eighty

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Speaker 2: as an organization because they just plopped him right into it.

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Speaker 2: You get that franchise guy, you hit light speed. As

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Speaker 2: far as the rebos, people will make.

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Speaker 1: Fun of the Bengals, and Burrow has been hurt a lot, Yes,

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Speaker 1: but he got into a super Bowl. He got them

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Speaker 1: too another AFC Championship game. And I bet they finish

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Speaker 1: ahead of the Steelers this season.

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Speaker 2: And every year you go into a new season with

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Speaker 2: the Bengals having their window open at least for the

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Speaker 2: time being, like they are considered a threat to make

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Speaker 2: the playoffs and make a run every year. So long

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Speaker 2: as Joe Burrow's still at the height of his powers. Now,

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Speaker 2: I would take a receiver if not a guard. Receivers

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Speaker 2: are easy.

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Speaker 1: Receivers fit right in and a ton are going to

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Speaker 1: be there, like Concepcio and from a and m. Boston

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Speaker 1: from Washington, Lemon from SoCal, but he won't drop enough.

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Speaker 1: Tyson from Arizona State, Cooper from Indiana. There's like five

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Speaker 1: or six legitimate first und wide receivers and they all

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Speaker 1: would jump right in the lineup for the Steelers. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not even so sure they wouldn't jump ahead of

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Speaker 3: At the end of the year.

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Speaker 2: I think that's where you'd hope that it'd be trending

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Speaker 2: a Tyson or mckaye Lemon.

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Speaker 1: I think, well, mckaye lemon will never drop far Carnel Tait,

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Speaker 1: those guys are fish to think.

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Speaker 3: I didn't even mention him. He's like he's top ten,

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Speaker 3: he's a top fiver. Maybe yes.

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Speaker 1: Now, I saw one draft that mocked the safety to

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Speaker 1: the Steelers. McNeil Warren from Toledo. First off, never trust

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Speaker 1: the guy from Toledo. I mean, why would you draft

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Speaker 1: the guy from Toledo. I'm sure people out there can cite,

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Speaker 1: you know, all the MAC guys Antonio Brown, Ben Roethlisberger.

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Speaker 1: I would far prefer a guy uh from a football factory.

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Speaker 2: Deontay Johnson also came from Toledo, so you can cite

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Speaker 2: it the other way too, with some guys that came

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Speaker 3: I don't want a safety.

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Speaker 2: I know that it's not shored up completely the Steelers secondary,

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Speaker 2: but I really like what they did in free agency.

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Speaker 2: They're bringing in Brisker to kind of be that safety

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Speaker 2: one of your third round picks, that's fine, but I

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Speaker 2: would not go there with my first round pick.

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Speaker 1: Did we establish this in some relation to the Brisker

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Speaker 1: I would. I would he would be my favorite Steeler

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Speaker 1: based on his dad. It's the connection grandfather. It would

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Speaker 1: be his grandpa. I would guess uncle whatever. John Brisker

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Speaker 1: brawl brocot initiated by John Brisker, and then he went

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Speaker 1: to Uganda and died fighting as a mercenary. And Tom,

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Speaker 1: I still can't figure out for who was it against Edio? Mean?

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Speaker 3: Was it for Idio?

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Speaker 2: So it would make sense though that if Jakwan Brisker

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Speaker 1: A kick ass kind of guy. Yeah, yeah, exactly, Tom.

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Speaker 1: That is our first real draft talk on the show

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Speaker 1: this year. I think it's it's finally time. No, it's right,

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Speaker 2: No, And you're really starting to circle into some of

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Speaker 2: those prospects like you mentioned Vega and Jordan Tyson's another

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Speaker 2: He might go earlier than the Steelers are picking at

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Speaker 2: twenty one. But you seem to be honing in on

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Speaker 2: those prospects now too, because we're just a couple of

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Speaker 2: weeks away. It's it's real now for sure, and it

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Speaker 2: feels refreshing to talk about it without having talked about

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Speaker 1: Uh are they gonna start Dylan Cook a tackle if

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Speaker 1: maybe even start Cook at guard if Jones does recover.

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Speaker 2: That's an interesting wrinkle if you just bumped Cook into

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Speaker 3: They love Cook because you think they discovered him.

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Speaker 1: That is their way of convincing themselves they're smarter than

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Speaker 2: I think it is gonna be one of Jones or Cook.

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Speaker 2: I don't subscribe to them taking a tackle again in

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Speaker 2: the first round. I know our football group, Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: blasts out a ton of mock drafts on Twitter all

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Speaker 2: the time. Almost all of them have them taking a

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Speaker 2: tackle in the first round. I don't know if I

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Speaker 3: Deficient left tackle. No matter who wins that job.

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Speaker 1: Tom I got an inside line on who New England's

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Speaker 1: gonna draft. Rabel's gonna draft Diana Russini, just not sure

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Speaker 1: what position five nine X.

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Speaker 1: Penguin note, Sergey Morrischoff did a company team in New Jersey,

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Speaker 1: to Wilkes and it's going to be Skinner and Shilloffs

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Speaker 1: skip over Shilloffs and go right to Morishoff.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they would pull that trigger.

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Speaker 2: I think that they would go to Sheiloff's and just

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Speaker 3: But I do think it's the right thing to go

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Speaker 3: to Murushoff.

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Speaker 2: I'm not so sure it's not the right thing to

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Speaker 2: see the argument of Skinner being to the Cup in

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Speaker 3: I'll accept it.

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Speaker 2: But I think you gamble on Murushoff here it's your

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Speaker 1: What I'd do is, and Skinner's in goal tonight at

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Speaker 1: New Jersey with a chance to clinch the playoffs, I

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Speaker 1: if things went south, I would skip over Shilloffs and

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Speaker 1: go to Morrishow. That would have kind of the Matt

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Speaker 1: Murray Vibeh from twenty sixteen and that first year with

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Speaker 1: not comparing morishof to Matt Murray. I think morsof might

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Speaker 1: wind up being better, But I think you need to

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Speaker 1: consider all options as opposed to just sticking with the

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Speaker 2: that you look at what the team and.

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Speaker 3: Say best a glaring mediocrity.

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Speaker 2: Sure, and that's the one thing that you're gonna look

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Speaker 2: at and say, if we don't get out in the

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Speaker 2: Flyers score four goals a game on.

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Speaker 3: Like the problem he has cause he's a cartoon character.

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Speaker 3: They're both big, but much difference there, And I know

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Speaker 2: Bring up a good point about how he's gone cold

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Speaker 3: Scoring touch, though well not since November. Fair it's a

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Speaker 3: I think he keeps playing.

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Speaker 2: He can still always jump over the boards for that

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Speaker 2: You still think they got a life, They got a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, ob it says right here, Tom five power play

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Speaker 1: We'll go over the stats later, but you know, head

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Speaker 1: And the NHL has never replaced SID as the face

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Speaker 3: They blew it with Jack Hughes.

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Speaker 3: Tom.

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Speaker 1: We got some sound later from Randall Chamblay from the

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Speaker 1: Golf Channel who says the Tiger Woods would have won

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Speaker 3: Where do you weigh in?

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Speaker 2: That's extreme saying that he would have been a twenty

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Speaker 3: Like he did.

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Speaker 1: Do you think he did it to be better golfer?

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Speaker 1: Do you think he lifted weights for Vanity's sake to

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Speaker 2: I think it's the latter, because and you'll hear this

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Speaker 2: you're chasing an extra fifteen yards, what's the really that

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Speaker 3: I think it was purely cosmetic.

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Speaker 1: I want to think of the Penguins, Tom, You know

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Speaker 1: And while I'm happy maybe this year's are not, liar,

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Speaker 2: But that being said, out I'm pretty confident. Maybe confidence

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Speaker 1: I do too, probably, but I'm just saying they're gonna

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Speaker 1: replace a lot of veterans with the young guys. You

444
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Speaker 1: never how that works out, especially in October November. I

445
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Speaker 1: will sadly concede that guys like McGroarty, Harrison Brunnick, Billy

446
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Speaker 1: coyvenan have not made the progress as hope. So I'm

447
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Speaker 1: not saying next year is going to be a rough year.

448
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying that on paper, the team won't be

449
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Speaker 1: as good to start next year Bari Kyle Dubis making

450
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Speaker 1: a lot of big acquisitions via trader free agency.

451
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Speaker 2: Or if Mrshoff's just a side we start sixth year,

452
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Speaker 2: I think there will be more of a rotation, though

453
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Speaker 2: still with she LOFs, but maybe Mehushov just absolutely steals

454
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Speaker 2: games in October for this team while they try to

455
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Speaker 2: find their way as a young guy, as a young team.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot to ask of a rookie goal it is,

457
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Speaker 3: but maybe he's just that good. He's no Connor Griffin,

458
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Speaker 3: of course, not nobody is.

459
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Speaker 1: How about you know what I'm gonna talk and I

460
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Speaker 1: have already at length, and I know I'm being Debbie Donner.

461
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Speaker 1: And by the way, if you have donners, I'll I'll

462
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Speaker 1: take them. But but you know, people saying that Connor

463
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Speaker 1: Griffin's gonna be Sidney Crosby. Crosby's a top five hockey player. Ever,

464
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Speaker 1: so if he's gonna be Sidney Crosby, you're expecting Connor

465
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Speaker 1: Griffin to be Willie Mays.

466
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Speaker 2: Yes, And with Sidney Crosby, there was so much momentum

467
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Speaker 2: towards him being this guy, this phenom when he was

468
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Speaker 2: what fifteen years old.

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Speaker 1: Actually, one of the most amazing things about Crosby is

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Speaker 1: that he came into the NHL after a year was

471
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Speaker 1: lost to a labor dispute, had all this incredible hype,

472
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Speaker 1: lived up to it right away immediately, and has lived

473
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Speaker 1: up to it ever since, never put a.

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Speaker 3: Foot wrong, both on or off the ice.

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Speaker 1: And I still don't feel like the league or hockey

476
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Speaker 1: people in general appreciate him enough for it.

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Speaker 2: When you just brought up too in regards to Connor

478
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Speaker 2: Griffin as Sidney Crosby. Okay, Griffin's got to hit like

479
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,720
Speaker 2: three twenty this year with thirty home runs. Then because

480
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Speaker 2: sid wasn't one hundred point scorer the second twenty the

481
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Speaker 2: second he stepped on the ice, and I think it

482
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Speaker 2: was one hundred and twenty as a rookie. Then he

483
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Speaker 2: dropped off maybe a little bit the next year, but

484
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Speaker 2: still over. I know, he's the only teenager to having

485
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Speaker 2: a one hundred point season in the NHL twice. He's

486
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Speaker 2: the only one to do it at age eighteen and

487
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Speaker 2: then again at age nineteen. There's a couple Celebrini joined

488
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Speaker 2: the lists that had done it at least once, but

489
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Speaker 2: he's the only one to do it twice in the league.

490
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Speaker 1: Well, the Penguins are at New Jersey tonight, and I'm

491
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Speaker 1: not sure what happened to the Devils.

492
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Speaker 3: As I just mentioned Jack Hughes Bratt, his's here.

493
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Speaker 1: It's a better team than their record, and US has

494
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Speaker 1: seventy two points and fifty seven games, so he's kept

495
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Speaker 1: up his part. You know what their problem is all

496
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Speaker 1: their guys are kind of the same player like Ugh's Bratt.

497
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Speaker 3: He sure they're kind of the same guy.

498
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Speaker 2: It's a bad team build, is kind of what you're

499
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Speaker 2: getting at, Like they should maybe move on from one

500
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Speaker 2: of those guys in a hockey trade to get better

501
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Speaker 2: in and up.

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Speaker 1: Well, they just fired the GM Tommy Fitzgerald X of

503
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Speaker 1: this parish, so they feel the same way.

504
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Speaker 2: Do you think with teams like the Devil Now there's

505
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Speaker 2: only four games left, can they? They can smell the

506
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Speaker 2: beaches and the golf courses right, like a lot of

507
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Speaker 2: those guys on that roster, Like if you jump on them.

508
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Speaker 3: Early and that kill own Kramer, bet the beach, the beach.

509
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Speaker 2: If you jump on them early tonight, if it's two

510
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Speaker 2: nothing heading into the second period, they'll probably pack it in.

511
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Speaker 2: What you say, like, what do the Devils have to

512
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Speaker 2: play for tonight?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think Jack Ughes is really into being Jack Ughes

515
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Speaker 1: right now, fair enough.

516
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Speaker 3: And he should be.

517
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Speaker 1: Uh So, I don't think he's gonna mail it in

518
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Speaker 1: and certainly hasn't since the Olympics. And you got to

519
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Speaker 1: give that guy credit for that, because you know, the

520
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Speaker 1: Olympics were probably a career peak he'll never match. You know,

521
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Speaker 1: the adrenaline should have stopped, but it has not. Then again,

522
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Speaker 1: he's still banging what's your name, Tate McCrea, adrenaline something

523
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Speaker 1: you're doing that if they would have broken up, I

524
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Speaker 1: would have assumed. I mean, if we find out about

525
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Speaker 1: Vrabel and Russini on using McCrae, we.

526
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Speaker 3: Would have known about Hughes and McCrae. And you know what,

527
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Speaker 3: Hughes scoring the way.

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Speaker 2: I know the Devils are out of the playoffs, but

529
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Speaker 2: the league, you know, fumbled massively to him potentially being

530
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Speaker 2: in the next face of hockey. And he's been doing

531
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Speaker 2: it as far as point production is concerned, where you

532
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Speaker 2: could keep that momentum going despite the Devil's playing poorly overall,

533
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Speaker 2: And it's just they don't do They just don't know

534
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Speaker 2: what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: I was one year off Tom. He had one hundred

536
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Speaker 1: two points as a rookie, did number eighty seven to

537
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Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty. I jumped up as a second

538
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Speaker 1: year player. Here's an interesting stat though, you know Shid

539
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Speaker 1: had a career high in penalty minutes his first season.

540
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Speaker 1: Really there's a rookie one hundred and ten minutes and

541
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Speaker 1: you know what he was doing. It's how smart he is,

542
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Speaker 1: how he thinks everything. He was staking on some space.

543
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Speaker 1: He didn't let people get away with crap. Oh, because

544
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Speaker 1: people tried to constantly. That was the book on Crosby

545
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Speaker 1: when he came in, right, just push him around just

546
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Speaker 1: out physical love. Well, well not on physical him so much,

547
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Speaker 1: because I mean that we got to get this sound.

548
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 1: There's a sound by the Kachucks on their podcast. Okay,

549
00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:01,479
Speaker 1: remember when when Matthew bode six and they're laughing about it,

550
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 1: like Brady's saying you had no hope there, and Matt

551
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: Kachuck saying, yeah, you're right, he's a freak. But but yeah, no,

552
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Speaker 1: you weren't gonna push him around. You're gonna get him

553
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Speaker 1: like off his game, get him not rattled. But you know,

554
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Speaker 1: just just you know, making mistakes emotionally, and you don't

555
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Speaker 1: do that him like fired up. That's even more dangerous.

556
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is so cool to hear guys like the

557
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Speaker 2: Kachucks talk about Sid that way. He has become a

558
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Speaker 2: mythological figure to these guys in the league, like they

559
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Speaker 2: look at him as this larger than life entity.

560
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Speaker 1: Now, well, now, dressing rooms in the NHL are full

561
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Speaker 1: of guys for whom Sid was their favorite player.

562
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Speaker 3: He's their hero.

563
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Speaker 1: It was like that with Team Canada and will be

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Speaker 1: pretty much any dressing room he's in as long as

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Speaker 1: he plays. But getting back to Jack Ughes for a second,

566
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Speaker 1: check out these numbers. Tom thirteen goals in twenty three

567
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Speaker 1: assists in twenty four games since the Olympics. So whatever

568
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Speaker 1: problems the Devils have, it ain't on Jack Hughes. Although

569
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Speaker 1: they are twelve wins and nine losses since the Olympic,

570
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Speaker 1: which isn't terrible, but the hole was too.

571
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Speaker 2: Deep and when you were doing the Jack Hughes should

572
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Speaker 2: be the face of the league topic after the Olympics,

573
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Speaker 2: things that people would push back on you as well,

574
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Speaker 2: he's not a good enough player to be the face

575
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Speaker 2: of the league, and you would say, you're totally missing

576
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Speaker 2: the point. It's not all about that when it comes

577
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Speaker 2: to the topic like this. But what you just laid

578
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Speaker 2: out proves that that's also wrong to claim that about him,

579
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Speaker 2: that he's he can't score as many points. He's not,

580
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Speaker 2: you know, as good of a player that you need

581
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Speaker 2: to be the face of the league. He's a fantastic player.

582
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Speaker 2: He could probably be arguing into the top ten. Yeah,

583
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Speaker 2: pert near, if not plumb. He's getting there and he's

584
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Speaker 2: at Newark.

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Speaker 3: That hurts him. He's only gonna be twenty five next year.

586
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Speaker 3: He's still got his prime head. Oh no, Jack, he's

587
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Speaker 3: not close to being done.

588
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Speaker 1: No, he's a legit star, but not like Cider McDavid

589
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Speaker 1: in terms of production and not good enough to be

590
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Speaker 1: a star player in Jersey and the NHL. Let the

591
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Speaker 1: Olympic buzz wear off for him. And by the way,

592
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Speaker 1: his brother's out tonight. His brother has some kind of

593
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Speaker 1: injury where they want to start to rehab on it

594
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 1: a quinn but but Luke used the will been an

595
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Speaker 1: NHL defense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm just as glad he's not playing tonight.

597
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Speaker 1: Tom, we talked earlier about potential Penguin lineup flip flop

598
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Speaker 1: for the playoffs. Did you leave Raquell at center for

599
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Speaker 1: the playoffs?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I do, right, as long as it continues these next

602
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Speaker 2: four games like it has been.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's what do you think Sid wants to

604
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Speaker 3: have him back on his line? Probably? I think he

605
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 3: probably wants the band back together. I don't know. I mean,

606
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 3: Chenikov's playing really well.

607
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Speaker 1: I talked with Sid briefly about playing with China kof

608
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Speaker 1: after the game son and he talked about how it's

609
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Speaker 1: more attacking off the rush, et cetera. But he did

610
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Speaker 1: not seem displeased with what was going on either.

611
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 2: No, and he stills rusty with him right, So it's

612
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 2: not like we throw two completely new wingers in with Sid.

613
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Speaker 2: I bet yo, though if he had his way, he

614
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Speaker 2: would probably choose the comfortability as always and go with

615
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Speaker 2: for Kell and Russ. But I think Kel's gonna be

616
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Speaker 2: the second line center game one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're probably right. But but but again.

618
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Speaker 2: Would you go back to Novak as the second line

619
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Speaker 2: center if if we give Crosby what we think he

620
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Speaker 2: might want.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

622
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Speaker 1: If Crosby wants Rikel back on his line, I go

623
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Speaker 1: back to Novak, Malkin and Chinakoffs, no question about that.

624
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Speaker 3: Now. I do like.

625
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 1: Sid on the line with China Cooff, but with Sid,

626
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Speaker 1: ra Kell and Russ, like I just pretty much said,

627
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: the other lines fit together better, but Sid can make

628
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Speaker 1: Chinakoff explode. I think if there's another level to be

629
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Speaker 1: found by China Koff at this point in his career,

630
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Speaker 1: Sid's the guy to facilitate that.

631
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Speaker 2: And with the way Raquel's playing right now too, it's

632
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Speaker 2: almost like you just don't want to mess with that either,

633
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Speaker 2: like he has found something playing second line center between

634
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Speaker 2: Novak and Malkin. He's filling up the net right now,

635
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 2: arguably the hottest goal scorer in the NHL in the

636
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 2: past week. It's almost like it's you think't broke, so

637
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 2: don't fix it kind of vibe when it comes to that.

638
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Speaker 3: This is funny, Tom.

639
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: There's a story that some of the New York Islanders

640
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: players said they got tired of Patrick Waugh, who just

641
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: got fired as coach. They got tired of Patrick talking

642
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: about the Stanley kupsy won.

643
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,479
Speaker 3: Okay, but what's he supposed to talk about.

644
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 1: Isn't the greatest part of his credibility as a coach

645
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 1: that he's a four times Stanley Cup winning goaltender and

646
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: indeed one of the greatest goalies of all time. And

647
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 1: that tells me why that team's collapsing. That tells me

648
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 1: why that team was never all that. I've never considered

649
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: Patty to be, you know, like a great you know,

650
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: bench boss, like like like Scottie.

651
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 3: Bowman or whoever.

652
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: But he has credibility and for those guys do I

653
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: guess it sounds like reading here for them to kind

654
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 1: of snicker at his credibility, that shows why they're punks.

655
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 2: It makes it seem like too that what he's walking

656
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 2: around with the rings on his finger, like you see this,

657
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 2: you see this playing, you'll never get this, Like he's

658
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 2: almost making fun of him for it. Like I'm sure

659
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Speaker 2: he was calling on his experiences making those cup runs

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Speaker 2: and telling them what it requires them to do over

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Speaker 2: these next couple weeks if they want to do the

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Speaker 2: same thing. I'm sure it's not just Hey, I won

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Speaker 2: four Cups. Isn't that pretty cool?

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Speaker 1: Here's another hockey you know, tom Ronnie Francis, the former

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Speaker 1: Penguin center all time great, won the Cup with the

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Speaker 1: Penguins in ninety one and ninety two. He stepped down

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Speaker 1: as Seattle's director of hockey ops. It's weird, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not knocking Ronnie, but Ronnie's one of the smartest hockey

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Speaker 1: players ever. Like if you made me compile a list

670
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: of the top ten smartest players I ever saw play

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Speaker 1: or talk to, because with Ronnie talking to him, you

672
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 1: could just tell it the knowledge and the instinct for

673
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: hockey oozed off him. But he never figured out management,

674
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: not in Carolina, not in Seattle, and I'm at a

675
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: loss to guess why even conjecture.

676
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 2: I even saw some people speculating if he's going to

677
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 2: go to Toronto after stepping out from this job, and

678
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 2: I'm just like, I just think it's done for Ron

679
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 2: Francis as far as the front office is concerned, at

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00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 2: least in that capacity where you're the guy calling the shots.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, boy, I wouldn't wish that on him.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't wish that on I mean to fill the

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Speaker 1: shoes of Kyle Dupas and the great job it turned

684
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: out he did. That it turned out he did, they'll

685
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Speaker 1: probably make him the all time Leaves like a Leafs

686
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame GM, once they figured out that it

687
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: was Shanny that screwed things up.

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Speaker 3: Looking over Kyle's I'm.

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Speaker 2: Gonna put on a tinfoil hat a little bit here.

690
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 2: You're probably not gonna agree is part of the goaltender

691
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 2: interference stuff that's happening with him because Toronto has but

692
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 2: heard about what Dubas is doing in Pittsburgh so quickly,

693
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Speaker 2: and then also looking at how the Leafs suck.

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Speaker 3: Tom.

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Speaker 1: If that indeed is a tinfoil hat, it's a very

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Speaker 1: fashionable one X.

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Speaker 4: Tonight's the Pens take on the Devils. Game time is seven.

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Speaker 4: Our coverage starts at six here every game and the

699
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Speaker 4: best coverage right here on your home of the Pens.

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Speaker 4: What five nine the X.

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Speaker 1: From the one we got skinnering goalten and at New Jersey.

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00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: Morishoff sent back to Wilks. Didn't play a game in

703
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: this recent call up, just the precautionary when Skinner got

704
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: dinged in the eye while sitting on the bench.

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Speaker 3: The other day.

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Speaker 1: We've been talking about Sid and Ovi potentially playing their

707
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Speaker 1: last game against each other this Sunday at DC, the

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00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: second game of a home and home between the Pens

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Speaker 1: and Caps. You can come watch the game with me

710
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: at Schoolhouse Tavern and Claradge put drops at three pm.

711
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: I think it'd be great if at the end of

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00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: the game, even if they're not sure if it's the

713
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: last game, Ovi and Sid should shake hands at center

714
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: ice and swap jerseys. That would be incredible and a

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Speaker 1: fitting conclusion to that rivalry, if indeed it is a conclusion.

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Speaker 1: First hour of the show brought to us by Shenderovich,

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Speaker 1: Sendrorovich and Fishman, they got your back, not your wallet.

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Speaker 3: Tom what do we got for the trifectum?

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Speaker 2: For today's trifecta Mark The Masters began today in Augusta

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Speaker 2: the first round. So I have my three favorite fictional

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Speaker 2: golf shots in movies of all time.

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Speaker 3: I like it. Number three is a group effort. We're

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Speaker 3: gonna go with the other guys.

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Speaker 2: When the entire driving range decides to take down the

725
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 2: helicopter that's chasing Will Ferrell and Mark Wahlberg, we're cops.

726
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 2: Shoot the helicopter or hit the helicopter. Fantastic number two.

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00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 2: It's got to be in tin Cup though. The seven

728
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: iron bet where David Sim's just slyly smiles and turns

729
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 2: towards the road and just hits a nice little chip

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Speaker 2: with the seven iron. It just bounces on down the

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Speaker 2: road for miles and miles and miles.

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Speaker 1: One of my one of my favorite, one of my

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Speaker 1: favorite lunch Net movie. When he broke all the clubs,

734
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Speaker 1: what club did he use? He uses the seven iron,

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Speaker 1: he keeps the seven iron. He goes, did you ever

736
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Speaker 1: shoot a did you ever shoot three hunder with a

737
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Speaker 1: seven iron? And Don Johnson goes, well, hell cup, it

738
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Speaker 1: never even occurred to me to try.

739
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Speaker 2: And it's just so great to see him. Don Johnson's

740
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 2: acting is perfect. When Roy just nuts all over that

741
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 2: seven iron, right, I mean, he crushes it. He thinks

742
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Speaker 2: he's won the bet, and he's just smiling the whole

743
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Speaker 2: time right down the road. But the number one golf

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00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 2: shot in movie history has to be the happy Gilmore.

745
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 2: I'll just beat him now, putt right, I mean, come on,

746
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: that's all time. And the scene or the filming that

747
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 2: they did, the technique where they go to the crowd

748
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Speaker 2: going back and forth with the ball as it's going

749
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Speaker 2: back and forth, just masterful.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think if there's any that gut uh

751
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: in casino where the where the uh the spy plane

752
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: that's looking down on them runs out of gas nest

753
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: to land on the golf course, on the golf course

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00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: and they start hitting shots off it. That that's that

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00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: that deserves honorable mention. The trifecta brought was by Danny's

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Speaker 1: Petron Hogies family owned and operated since nineteen sixty.

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Speaker 3: That's en Route eighty eight in Bethel Park.

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Speaker 2: Now, one thing I will add, though Caddyshack obviously the

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Speaker 2: best golf movie ever made.

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Speaker 3: What would be the shot there?

761
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Speaker 4: Though?

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Speaker 3: Would it be Ty Webb's getting eaten by the bird.

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Speaker 3: It's good luck and Haiti no no, the putt to

764
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Speaker 3: win it, the putin.

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Speaker 2: And the explosion. Yeah, I don't know if it makes

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Speaker 2: the list though. There's not really like a memorable golf

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Speaker 2: shot like.

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Speaker 3: Some of the I don't know.

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Speaker 1: That's that's although caddy Scheck didn't have a plot. It's

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Speaker 1: just a bunch of being yettes loosely held together by

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Speaker 1: by by the gopher.

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Speaker 3: Yep. And that's what the studio said needed to be

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Speaker 3: in the movie, right. They put the gopher in after

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Speaker 3: the fact.

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Speaker 1: That drove Doug Kenny, the producer and the scriptwriter National Lampoon,

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Speaker 1: one of my heroes, founding editor of that publication. It

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Speaker 1: he might have committed suicide over distress because of the gophers.

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Speaker 2: You saw the movie about that Kenny right with four

779
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 2: and it is tremendous how they really illustrated how much

780
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Speaker 2: he hated Caddyshack.

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Speaker 3: Towards the end of his life and when they had

782
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Speaker 3: it's one of the best comedies ever.

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Speaker 4: We know.

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Speaker 2: They had the character in the movie of like his

785
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 2: future self that if he would grow old, he like

786
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 2: goes up to Kenny Ada's funeral and he goes if

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Speaker 2: it's any consolation, people really like Caddyshack.

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Speaker 1: Now, Tom, did you see Jack White is coming to Pittsburgh.

789
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Speaker 1: He's gonna play at that new place live at the

790
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Speaker 1: Wilie that they're building right by PPG Paint's arena. I

791
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Speaker 1: think Jack White's brilliant. I think he's the American latter

792
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Speaker 1: day Jimmy Page.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I never really go to concerts, it's not like my bag,

795
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Speaker 2: but I would go to see Jack White play.

796
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 3: He's unbelievable.

797
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 2: I love the White stripes growing up, and then him

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Speaker 2: going solo too has just been an absolute home run

799
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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 3: He can't miss nothing he's done has been bad in

801
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 3: some ways.

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Speaker 1: It's a shame that he came through in the era

803
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Speaker 1: of not getting record sales. I mean, I'm sure he

804
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: has a very comfortable life, but you know, you can't

805
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Speaker 1: get rich, mega rich, crazy rich by selling record like

806
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: he used to be able to. Now you just download

807
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: everything and and not only did you get more money

808
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: that way, but I think it was measurable. It made

809
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: it made how good you were, Like you know, platinum gold,

810
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: there was something you could.

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Speaker 2: Quantify, such a weird look too writ for just a

812
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 2: badass rocker like you would never honestly expect that from him,

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00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 2: would you are, my am?

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Speaker 3: I off base there? What do I mean?

815
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Speaker 2: He just kind of looks like he's like a weird

816
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 2: looking guy, almost like almost ghoulish.

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00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 1: No, I think he looks a bit like Paigy. You do, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I don't think that's unintentional either.

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Speaker 3: He's trying to call into that a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe he did. You see that documentary

821
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Speaker 1: it might get loud with him. Jimmy Page and The

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Speaker 1: Edge from you two spending a lot of time together,

823
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: really well done, and it was clear that Jack White

824
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Speaker 1: his total reverence for Jimmy Page. He didn't quite have

825
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: the same feelings for The Edge, but but but nonetheless,

826
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Speaker 1: it was just very good, well worth watching.

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Speaker 3: Tom.

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Speaker 1: Has anybody out there that you know stolen a traffic

829
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Speaker 1: cone because there are reports of of said theft obviously

830
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: because of the pirates hoist the cone thing, And how

831
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: can you not how could you hate anybody for stealing

832
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: a traffic cone to be in on the fun. It's

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Speaker 1: not grand theft cone and beat them bucks.

834
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Speaker 2: It's just so baseball too, like it's just such a

835
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 2: thing that a town does when the baseball team is

836
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 2: actually relevant and competitive rememb result on whenever that was

837
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Speaker 2: when the Pirates were Yeah, thing like it's just for

838
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 2: whatever reason. Baseball has these weird little things that you

839
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 2: pick up in a season, and the cone is a

840
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 2: great one.

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen.

842
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 2: Someone in the act of stealing them yet, but as

843
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 2: I'm driving around, I'm starting to notice the cones a

844
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 2: lot more on the road.

845
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: I'm noticing some right for the picking. Did you see

846
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: the new Tiger Woods T shirts? No a pun on

847
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: the Duy and Nike just Duy and it's his mugshots.

848
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 3: It's not official, Okay, I didn't know if it was, like, no,

849
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Speaker 3: I doubt he's getting a residuce.

850
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 2: It would be awesome though if he leaned into it

851
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: put it on Tiger's official website.

852
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: Couldn't you just see it like showing up but that

853
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: they already had the Master's dinner, right.

854
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 2: They did the dinner on Tuesday? What did who's the

855
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 2: defending champs? R?

856
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 3: What? What did he pick?

857
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: It was like he picks the menu right, Yeah, I

858
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: can pull it up for sure, Tomahawks steak or something

859
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: like that.

860
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 2: There was like a steak option and a fish option.

861
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 2: As far as the main course kind of cliched. I

862
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 2: think he putting was his dessert because he's English. Yeah,

863
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 2: it makes so much sense there. And then there was

864
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 2: a bunch of appetizers too, like I think there was

865
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: elk sliders.

866
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 3: Have you ever had elk sliders?

867
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Speaker 2: No, that seems good, peaching ricata, flatbread, rock shrimp tempora.

868
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 2: I need about fifty pieces of that bacon rap dates.

869
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 2: That's probably pretty good too. First course was yellow fin

870
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 2: tuto carpaccio, and then the main course was wagou filet

871
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 2: mignon or seared salmon.

872
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: That sounds fantastic, amazing. Now Tiger won the Masters? How

873
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: many times five?

874
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 3: Did the men? You ever include Xanax? Was that one

875
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 3: of the appetizer? Did not know? Could you see? Like

876
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 3: was he at the dinner this year?

877
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 2: I guess he's like in he went to like Switzerland,

878
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 2: right or Sweden or something like that. He's out of

879
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 2: the country for rehab.

880
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 3: I know that.

881
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well that's the best way for him to do it,

882
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: because I mean, even there they're gonna know who he is,

883
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: but it's not the sins.

884
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if Xanax was on the menu.

885
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: But I know that they loaded up with some really

886
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 2: good wines and like Bordeaux, and like they get liquored

887
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: up bad at that dinner.

888
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: Ye and Oxy Uh you know, can't you picture him,

889
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: like what if he would have been what if he

890
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: hadn't gone to rehabby like stumbled into the dinner this

891
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: year all pulled up.

892
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 3: I want to win this year. I'm gonna win it

893
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 3: and then I'm back.

894
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 2: He should have played in the field too. He's allowed

895
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 2: to play in the field every single year for life,

896
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 2: no matter what his status is.

897
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: Remember they still they used to have that the oldest

898
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: living Masters champion would hit the opening drive that stuff.

899
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: But then did you know this, Sam Snead like clunked

900
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,240
Speaker 1: the guy in the head like like fifty yards away

901
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 1: and then and then fell over didn't die, but fell

902
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: Over died literally a couple months later. And the Masters,

903
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 1: because they control all the video right, all the tell

904
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: every single thing, nobody's ever seen that if you didn't

905
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: see it, live.

906
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 2: Well, Jack Nicholas this year obviously the Golden Barry he

907
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 2: got closed one right, Yeah, he almost hit somebody as well. Well,

908
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 2: it wasn't like he got it past the gallery starters, Yes,

909
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: wasn't it Gary Player, Tom Watson Right.

910
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 3: It seems like those are the guys that they kind

911
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 3: of go to every year.

912
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: Now, not too many better than that. I don't care

913
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: who wins Tom, how about you.

914
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 2: I'd like to see Scotti Schefler win because I think

915
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 2: that would be what his third masters now and I

916
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 2: just like to see majors get run up by a

917
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 2: single player.

918
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: I do too, But he's never going to be a star.

919
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: Tiger's shadow is still such that nobody else can be

920
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: a star even without him playing.

921
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 2: Tom right, he's the biggest story a Master's week, and

922
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 2: you got players talk. Gary Player's a SoundBite, I think

923
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 2: talking about Tiger. They're asking all the guys about Tiger.

924
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 2: It's Tiger, Tiger, Tiger, and he's nowhere to be found.

925
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 2: What's Jason Kelsey doing there? He's there for ESPN, What

926
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 2: specifically is he covering?

927
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 3: Is he like it?

928
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 2: He was on the course for the par three contest

929
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: on Wednesday. That that practice round thing that they do

930
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 2: and televise. I think that's pretty much it. But I

931
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 2: saw some of the reviews on Twitter, like some of

932
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 2: the comments on it.

933
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 3: It did not go over well, Like, I don't think

934
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 3: golfs hate him being there, and he should hate him

935
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 3: being there.

936
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: That's their place, Okay, that is the cathedral of golf,

937
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: and this numb nuts yahoo Jim Teacher muscle is there

938
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: and it really doesn't matter what he's doing or if

939
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: he does it well, he just doesn't belong there. Did

940
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: you see the AI stuff with like Kim and McAfee

941
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: and Bert Kreischer jumping into a water hazard or something

942
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 1: like that, and a lot of people thought it was real.

943
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 2: I would think that was real because I think that

944
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 2: those three would act that way.

945
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: Although it wouldn't shock me if Kelsey went swimming in

946
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: the seamen pond, you know, and all that old white

947
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: Southern money. It just it just goes to show you

948
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: that they used to control what happened. They're totally now.

949
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: It's about ninety five percent because they wouldn't. They don't

950
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 1: want Kelsey there. Why would they? Why would anybody?

951
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 3: Why is he there? It makes no sense. He's just

952
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 3: in all of sports now.

953
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 2: And I think they got away with it because didn't

954
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 2: you do some things with the hockey too? A little

955
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 2: bit like he had some overlap with the NHL. They

956
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:46,919
Speaker 2: got away with that a little bit with hockey fans,

957
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: but it just didn't hit at all with golf.

958
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: Tom By the way, I have some big news in

959
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 1: terms of our five o'clock segment. Your two assignments between

960
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 1: now and shows and find the Ka Chuck Brother sam

961
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: By talking about bouncing off Matthew Kuchuk when Matthew tried

962
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: to hit him on Sunday, and Jared goes back on

963
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: a e w TV.

964
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 3: Guess what he brought back last night. The list, The List,

965
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 3: the List. I knew. I knew it would become a

966
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 3: thing again. Either that or Jared.

967
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: Goes out of ideas, just like I am one oh

968
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 1: five nine the X nine

969
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 3: From the