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Speaker 1: Where we go.

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Speaker 2: Would you trade a Seahawks Super Bowl title or a

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Speaker 2: Gonzaga National championship?

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Speaker 1: We have talked about it. Did you hear the hesitation there? Jackson?

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Speaker 1: Yesterday we talked about this before. Titles.

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Speaker 3: I do not trade titles, especially don't trade titles for appearances.

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Speaker 1: But have you changed? You wanted me to ask you.

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Speaker 3: You asked me yesterday to ask you today if you've

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Speaker 3: come to your senses and changed your mind.

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Speaker 1: Remind people when I said yes.

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Speaker 3: Soft he said he would give away the super Bowl

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Speaker 3: championship we just won, just passed the Lombardi away. Yes,

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Speaker 3: to have us hang on to the Game seven win

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Speaker 2: I would, I would, I would stick with it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: same as yesterday, Same as yesterday. See, you had a

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Speaker 2: little bit of a kind of back and forth in

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Speaker 2: your own mind yesterday.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: No, no, So what I do is now you're back

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Speaker 2: to where you were yesterday afternoon, just criticizing me for

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Speaker 2: my opinion when it's my opinion.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, you to criticize me for anything.

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Speaker 5: I'm saying that I fully disagree with you, but I

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Speaker 5: am some disagreement.

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Speaker 1: You're saying you would not do that, well, you would not.

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Speaker 5: I think that the reason why Dick and I were

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Speaker 5: so like, oh my god, what did you just say?

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Speaker 5: Is because I don't think we're not in your head.

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Speaker 5: We don't understand how much bigger of a Mariner fan

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Speaker 5: that you are. And that's totally fine. I'm a bigger

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Speaker 5: Sounder fan than I am anything else. It's completely fine.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you, by the way, I appreciate that. It's

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Speaker 5: The text line was just thrilling you and people just

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Speaker 5: don't understand where you're fan.

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Speaker 2: But it's not even it's not even about the fan level,

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Speaker 2: because if you asked me, Am I a bigger Seahawk

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Speaker 2: fan than a Sonic fan? Am I a bigger Seayawk

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Speaker 2: fan than a Sonic fan? Am I a bigger Husky

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Speaker 2: fan than a Seayawk fan? Typically, I think I can

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Speaker 2: say and this changes, right, It's like the seasons, man,

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Speaker 2: the leaves fall off the tree, right, the clouds come,

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Speaker 2: the sun rises and daylight savings time, which is Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Right things change, and right now the world that I

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Speaker 2: am living in in my brain is I desperately want

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Speaker 2: a World Series in Seattle, and I want it worse

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Speaker 2: I want it more than the Super Bowl championship. I

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Speaker 2: want it more than a Huskies championship. I want it

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Speaker 2: more than a crack and Stanley Cup right now, and

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Speaker 2: I reserve the right to do whatever I God darn

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Speaker 2: well please and change my mind tomorrow. This is a

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Speaker 2: man that graduated from Washington and roots friggin zaga. All right,

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Speaker 2: people have a right to do whatever they want to do.

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Speaker 2: They also have a right to take crap for whatever

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Speaker 2: we can just rip on each other and have fun.

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Speaker 2: But where I'm sitting at right now, there's nothing I

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Speaker 2: desire more today, right now than a Mariner trip to

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Speaker 2: the World Series. Hold that thought, but there's more grilling

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Speaker 2: I'm certain coming on this topic. Mike Florio joins. Right now,

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Speaker 2: Our friend Mike Florio, how are you, Pelle doing great?

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Speaker 7: Buttholes?

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Speaker 2: Thank you for doing this. I missed you last week.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you doing this every single week.

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Speaker 8: I knew it was a good week for a reason.

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Speaker 8: I couldn't remember why it was a good week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I had a great cover. I wasn't bugging

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, you know what welcome back to reality, pal

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Speaker 2: and reality sucks.

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Speaker 8: Hey, how about how about all of you? You were

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Speaker 8: on vacation, Yes you were. You were a vacation. You're

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Speaker 8: on some swanky vacation.

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Speaker 2: Right, yes, swanky? Yes, I was on a swanky vacation

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Speaker 2: trip with my wife. That's exactly what I was doing.

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Speaker 2: I said to my wife, what do you want to do?

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Speaker 2: So we made it swanky and we took off. Hey,

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Speaker 2: lots of movement in the NFL. Let's first of all,

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Speaker 2: talk about the NFC West rival of the Seahawks getting

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs moved McDuffie to other rams today?

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Speaker 7: Very simple. They didn't want to pay him what he

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Speaker 7: Oh never mind.

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Speaker 8: But it's a way for the Rams to address a guy,

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Speaker 2: Well, Mike Florio's with us on the radio program here

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Speaker 2: on ninety three three KJRFM. We're all sitting around waiting

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Speaker 7: They're not pulling me over, thank god.

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Speaker 8: I learned two things. Number One, there were far too

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Speaker 8: because you have to deal with his contract, etc.

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Speaker 8: The time that the cart that Murray would be interested

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Speaker 8: Some people are like, no way in hell, we don't

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Speaker 1: Let you go?

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Speaker 8: No, I have not been pulled over since I became

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Speaker 2: Wow, you always talk about you got a driver, man,

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Speaker 7: Rashi always talk about it? What do I always talk about?

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Speaker 8: One time on your show, you know what, I was

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Speaker 1: I'm going back to Maui. Man, this is unfair.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't deserve this kind of just getting

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Speaker 7: About stay in a hut on the beach. I didn't

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Speaker 2: We've already established it with Swanky. Did you already forget

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Speaker 1: Did anyone see this coming?

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Speaker 7: No, nobody saw it coming.

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Speaker 8: He had four years with the Falcons and he signed

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Speaker 7: I'm told that's not the case. He's just done.

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Speaker 8: And I'm a firm believer when you're done playing professional

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Speaker 7: You should not keep playing.

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Speaker 8: It takes everything you have mentally and physically. It's a

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Speaker 2: Mike Floria. Unfortunately, our time has come to move on.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk in a week.

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Speaker 1: You're the best, Miss upset about that.

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Speaker 2: I am upset about it. I'd have you on for

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Speaker 7: My agent will call you. My agent will call you.

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Speaker 7: My agent is me.

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Speaker 2: I am assigning Dick to have that conversation. It's now

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Speaker 2: you're the best, great stuff. We'll talk in a week.

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Speaker 2: See all right, Mike Florio will us on the radio show.

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Speaker 1: We are underway in Seattle. Rashid Shaheed drifted gears right.

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Speaker 2: He'll field the kickoff of the four shag he to

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Speaker 2: Six nothing Seahawks. Yeah, maybe the voice of Kevin Coogler.

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Speaker 2: I believe right there, Westwood, wat if I'm not mistaken

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Speaker 2: The reason why we're playing that is because that could

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Speaker 2: He didn't have anything in the Super Bowl or the

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Speaker 1: And this is the point that I made yesterday that if.

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Speaker 2: All right, but they may be more valuable in the

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Speaker 2: All those guys in the aggregate were great for you

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Speaker 2: We had Jenetti on like two weeks ago. The projected

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Speaker 2: I'm not paying him fourteen million dollars a year. I'd

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Speaker 1: The question you have to ask yourself is how important

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 3: Because Rashid Shiheed numbers wise and according to the guy

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Speaker 1: Milling, he is a three or a four wide receiver. Right.

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Speaker 3: Why would you pay a third or fourth wide receiver

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Speaker 3: And that being said, I do not believe the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: Pub turn doesn't happen and you don't win the division.

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Speaker 1: But do they need him to win it next year? No?

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Speaker 5: Yeah so he the dude is uber fast, He's very talented.

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Speaker 1: Come in or not free to come.

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Speaker 2: Shi heat. I'm worried about the special teams portion of

443
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Speaker 2: losing rashik Hi heat. And I'm worried about the fly

444
00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,400
Speaker 2: sweep option of losing Rashichi heat. I'm worried about that,

445
00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,960
Speaker 2: you know, surprise attack with a guy in the backfield

446
00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,240
Speaker 2: around the corner. That's what I'm worried about. The jet sweep,

447
00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:11,400
Speaker 2: you know, action the runner in rashid Hi and maybe

448
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:18,040
Speaker 2: they will maybe just last five games. Mcflurry Maybe maybe

449
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,600
Speaker 2: mcflurry uses the more right. Maybe maybe he says, hey,

450
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Speaker 2: we got a guy here that we got.

451
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Speaker 1: To find a way.

452
00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,960
Speaker 2: And if they if they lose Kenny Walker, maybe they

453
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,360
Speaker 2: do use the more in that regard. I mean, look,

454
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Speaker 2: I don't think he's worth fourteen million dollars as a

455
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Speaker 2: wide receiver. Do I think he's worth fourteen million dollars

456
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Speaker 2: when you factor everything in that he can do.

457
00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,920
Speaker 1: I'm getting closer. I'm getting closer to fourteen million.

458
00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,040
Speaker 2: Would be when you factor in special teams, and you

459
00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 2: factoring what the guy can do in the backfield, and

460
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Speaker 2: you're factoring what the guy can do as a receiver.

461
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Speaker 2: He's kind of a Percy Harvin light, is he not?

462
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 2: He's kind of a Percy Harvin light.

463
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Speaker 3: Now, Percy Harby Harvin was an excellent wide absolutely for

464
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Speaker 3: a period.

465
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Speaker 2: That's why I just called him light, Okay, because he

466
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Speaker 2: can do everything that Percy Harvin can do, maybe just

467
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,679
Speaker 2: not as good as Percy Harvin. How many players in

468
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 2: the NFL can return kicks, return punts, carry the ball,

469
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 2: and catch the ball the way Rashid Shaheed can.

470
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Speaker 1: Probably not many. So if I'm his agent, Jackson, that's

471
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Speaker 1: the argument.

472
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Speaker 5: Well, you mentioned Brian Floury taking over mcflury. Mcfluury, what's

473
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Speaker 5: the most famous wide receiver of the last few years

474
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Speaker 5: to actually be.

475
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Speaker 1: A running back? Christian McCaffrey.

476
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Speaker 5: No wide receiver to be a running back to be

477
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Speaker 5: a running back Deebo Samuel in San Francisco, where mcfluory coached.

478
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Speaker 1: So if a Hebo's a monster though, well physically.

479
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Speaker 5: No, but I still think in terms of using a

480
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Speaker 5: wide receiver at running back, the Niners kind of revolutionize that.

481
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Speaker 5: So if anybody was going to be doing it, it

482
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Speaker 5: would be him right now. So I mean, then the

483
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Speaker 5: question is what number would you give Shaheed? I don't know,

484
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Speaker 5: I mean for all of it together, seven to eight. Yeah,

485
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Speaker 5: I think he's gonna get a lot more than that

486
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Speaker 5: from people. Albert Briers point the other day was that

487
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Speaker 5: because guys like Pickens are getting tagged, there's just not

488
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Speaker 5: going to be as many players available, and so everybody

489
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Speaker 5: else who is available will kind of creep up the

490
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Speaker 5: chart a little bit and maybe be overpaid a little.

491
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Speaker 5: If somebody is offering Rashid she Head fourteen million dollars

492
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Speaker 5: a year, he's out of here. There's no way the

493
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Speaker 5: Seahawks are paying that well.

494
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Speaker 2: I mean, if somebody's offering Kenny Walker and Rashid she

495
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Speaker 2: Heat thirty million combined, they're both gone, both of them.

496
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Speaker 3: Who in their right mind would offer a guy that

497
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Speaker 3: has never caught more than forty six balls in a

498
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Speaker 3: career or fifty nine catches. This year was the most

499
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Speaker 3: he's ever had, right, who would and never had more

500
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Speaker 3: than five times?

501
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Speaker 1: Exactly? Terrible teams? Well, so what terrible teams? What does

502
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Speaker 1: he care? But I don't think that, I mean, he

503
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Speaker 1: has his title. I'd be surprised.

504
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Speaker 3: I mean, if if we're reporting in the next few

505
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Speaker 3: days that Rashid chi Heat is truly getting paid fourteen millionaire,

506
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Speaker 3: not the not the you know, buffoonery numbers that are

507
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Speaker 3: thrown out there.

508
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Speaker 2: But it's not buffoonery, man, And this is coming from

509
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 2: your buddy at spot Track right when buddy spot Track

510
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Speaker 2: is saying this is what the market will project for him.

511
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Speaker 3: Yes, but when we see the actual breakdown of the numbers,

512
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Speaker 3: like we got the we got the Javante Williams numbers,

513
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Speaker 3: and the actual numbers were two years, sixteen million dollars

514
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 3: for Javonte Williams, even though you know we've seen that

515
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 3: all the time, that there's the reported deal and then

516
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 3: three or four year days later we get.

517
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Speaker 1: The actual deal.

518
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Speaker 3: If he is actually receiving fourteen million dollars a year,

519
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be stunned.

520
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would not be stunned. I'd be surprised. I'm

521
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 2: kind of with you, but I would never say stunned.

522
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Speaker 2: All it takes, is Jackson said, is one idiot owner

523
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 2: who's got a you know you and know what for

524
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Speaker 2: Rashid Shaheed bringing it a guy who was a gigantic

525
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 2: part of that football team during their Super Bowl run.

526
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Speaker 1: All it takes is one.

527
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, thirty one NFL owners and general

528
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Speaker 2: managers may wake up with their brains properly functioning, and

529
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Speaker 2: then one clown in Tennessee or Detroit or Cleveland or

530
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Speaker 2: Atlanta says.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go out and give the guy the money.

532
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Speaker 10: Man.

533
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Speaker 1: So I mean, I I just think this.

534
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Speaker 2: I think what the Seahawks have to ask themselves and

535
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Speaker 2: what all of us have to ask. Not that we

536
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 2: have any influence over the damn thing, but what I

537
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 2: would be asking myself is how how important is this

538
00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 2: guy to us repeating next year as Super Bowl champions?

539
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 2: And it's not just the player, it's what you can

540
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Speaker 2: get if you have to replace him.

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Speaker 3: You asked me that question about ken Walker yesterday. I

542
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 3: said significant. My answer to this one is minimal, Okay,

543
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 3: because of partially because of Tory Horton.

544
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Speaker 2: Well, the thing about Tory Horton is the guy hasn't

545
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 2: proved he can stay healthy yet. I mean, it's only

546
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 2: been one year. I know that, and he was a

547
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 2: rookie and all that in college a lot. I'm just

548
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 2: saying this season, right, the guy, Well, was Rashad Penny

549
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,120
Speaker 2: hurt a lot in college with CJ.

550
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Speaker 1: Procize heard a lot in college. I have no idea

551
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Speaker 1: if he wasn't.

552
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Speaker 3: The reason I'm saying that because if he was not

553
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Speaker 3: hurt a lot in college, then I think suffering one

554
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 3: injury is and calling someone injury pro.

555
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Speaker 1: I never said that. I never even used those trouble

556
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Speaker 1: staying healthy. I he did have.

557
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Speaker 2: Trouble staying healthy last year, But wouldn't you say is

558
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Speaker 2: that a problem?

559
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if it's a problem, because.

560
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Speaker 3: Then then you're saying, then you're saying, by definition, you're

561
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Speaker 3: saying anybody that gets hurt once for nificant period of

562
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Speaker 3: time has trouble.

563
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Speaker 2: Staying I'm telling you is that I am not totally

564
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Speaker 2: one hundred percent convinced that Tory Horton can stay healthy.

565
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to lose sleep over it.

566
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Speaker 2: But if you're just going to dismiss the fact that,

567
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 2: I mean, how many games did he missed last year,

568
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 2: by the way, like half the season? Right as Patrick

569
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 2: Mahomes have trouble staying got like ten years of history.

570
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Speaker 1: Let me jump in an end this debate.

571
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Speaker 5: Because Tory Horton missed the seven games of his final

572
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Speaker 5: year in college with a knee tear.

573
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a problem.

574
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Speaker 2: So yeah, So I'm not going to sit there and

575
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Speaker 2: just say that Tory Horton can automatically replace Rashid Shhed.

576
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Speaker 1: Because he's never done it. He's never done it before.

577
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 2: Now, at some point, you got to have a leap

578
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 2: of faith, right, at some point, if you're going to

579
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 2: draft these guys and you're gonna bring them in, you

580
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 2: got to give him a shot. You got to just

581
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 2: sit back and roll the dice and let them prove

582
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 2: to you what they are or what they are not.

583
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Speaker 1: I love Tory Horton a lot.

584
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Speaker 2: I was really bummed out when he got hurt a

585
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Speaker 2: year ago, and I was absolutely convinced when they made

586
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Speaker 2: the trade for Rashid she heed that the reason why

587
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 2: they were doing it is because Cooper Cup was hurt.

588
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 1: It turns out. It was Tory Horton who was hurt.

589
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Speaker 3: And remember years in the minimum number of games, Tory

590
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 3: Horton had five touchdowns.

591
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 1: I leed Shaheed had zero receiving touchdowns. I like the guy.

592
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 2: I liked the guy a lot, but I do think

593
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 2: that just assuming that he can do everything Rashid Shahed

594
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 2: can do, I think that's a mistake. Now you may

595
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 2: not have a choice, Dick again. You may have to

596
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 2: just say, look, we drafted the kid. She heeds too much.

597
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 2: We kind of have no choice here. We got to

598
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 2: give this guy a look and see what he's all about,

599
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 2: and he might be fine. But to say that there's

600
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Speaker 2: going to be no nervous energy at all after losing

601
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Speaker 2: what Rashid Shahed gave you on special teams, on what

602
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 2: he could give you as a burner, I mean, you know, again,

603
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 2: keep in mind too that him and Darnold barely played together.

604
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 2: You know, what does that relationship look like in the

605
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 2: middle of your two next season? Say about Horton, of course,

606
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 2: but you can also say it about a guy who

607
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 2: is one of the fastest players in football. So I'm

608
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,959
Speaker 2: not going to say it's a zero to lose Rashid

609
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 2: Shahat like you would be.

610
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 1: I said minimal.

611
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm I would I said ken Walker's a seven.

612
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 2: This is probably a two or three. Yeah, I think

613
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 2: it's more than that. I think it's more than a

614
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: two or three. I think he's pretty damn important. Last

615
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 2: year down the stretch, you just said it yourself. They

616
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 2: don't win the title without him, right.

617
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 3: But that's a different question on looking forward. You said yourself,

618
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 3: you're looking forward just just because they won the title

619
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 3: for you. It doesn't mean that's the right decision the

620
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 3: next year.

621
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Speaker 1: It doesn't.

622
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 2: But if you've got more close games and he plays

623
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 2: a role in special teams, that could be the difference maker.

624
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 2: I mean, you got to assume there's going to be

625
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 2: more close games, right, Not every game is going to

626
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 2: be a blowout like it wasn't against the Niners. And

627
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 2: if this guy is available in a close game to

628
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 2: close the gap and give you a cheap, easy touchdown,

629
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Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I just think again, I'm not

630
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 2: paying fourteen million dollars either, But just to just throw

631
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 2: that away and say that's a nothing burger, I don't know, man,

632
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 2: that makes me slightly queasy. We're gonna break a little

633
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 2: fun with audio. Next on ninety three three KJARFM, It's

634
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 2: now time for something in Diggs with audio. Jimmy GA Star,

635
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Speaker 2: Jimmy mister garoppolo.

636
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Speaker 1: Now let's have some fun with audio.

637
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Speaker 2: All right, here we go, Petros Papadakis, we'll join us

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00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 2: coming up next segment right here on ninety three three

639
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Speaker 2: kJ R fmber.

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Speaker 1: Right now, it's time for a little fun with audio

641
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Speaker 1: slash hat. Did you hear that? Hey Dick? Did you

642
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: happen to hear that?

643
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 7: What's Dick? See?

644
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 5: You played it both of us at the same time.

645
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 5: You gotta be better about that. I think this is

646
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 5: pointing at Dick. This is literally and you literally did

647
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 5: like this.

648
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: Why did we need that one? Anyway? If I'm here,

649
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 1: That's what I'm wondering.

650
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 2: We always play it when you're here, we always play it.

651
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 2: These are things that must be talked about off the ear.

652
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 2: Let's try it again. Three two one, Hey Dick, did

653
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 2: you happen to hear that?

654
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: What's that?

655
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 7: Dick?

656
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 5: Say?

657
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: There you go, it's not the same time. We do

658
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: what every exactly? You do play it at the same

659
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: time as he says it usually so I do not.

660
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 2: But that's fine Jackson, Son of a Bitch, doesn't generation unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: I never.

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Speaker 5: Don't us off the I'm gonna get mad, I am

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Speaker 5: getting I'm getting mad.

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Speaker 2: Colin Cowhard and Fox Sports released a new app with

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Speaker 2: an AI version of Colin that will give sports takes

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Speaker 2: and answer fan questions well. On Katie Nolan's Casuals podcast yesterday,

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Speaker 2: she and her crew had some fun with AI Cowherd.

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Speaker 11: Fox Sports released an AI version of their host, Colin Coward,

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Speaker 11: where a digitized version of Colin will not only give

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Speaker 11: hot takes on the news of the day in his style,

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Speaker 11: but also respond to audio takes from the user in

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Speaker 11: Colin's same style.

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Speaker 1: What happens if you ask it like dating advice? We

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Speaker 1: should true? We want to test it right now?

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Speaker 7: Can we talk to him live?

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Speaker 1: Colin? How can I get women to talk to me?

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Speaker 4: That's not a sports question, but I'll give you the

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Speaker 4: real answer anyway. I'm not trying to get women to

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Speaker 4: talk to you, and start being the guy who makes

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Speaker 4: it easy to talk, calm energy, good eye contact, and

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Speaker 4: actual curiosity. Ask one simple question, then shut up and listen.

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Speaker 4: Most guys lose because they're performing, not connecting and don't

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Speaker 4: chase the outcome. When you're not desperate for a result,

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Speaker 4: you instantly get more interesting.

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Speaker 9: I hey, guys, if you want dating advice.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so let me ask you a question. Will we

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Speaker 2: be replaced by AI one day on this radio station?

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Speaker 1: No? Partially? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Can it happen like right now so I can go home?

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Speaker 2: Can it happen today? I mean this sooner that Okay,

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Speaker 2: are you kidding me? I mean we could be AI

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Speaker 2: right now when nobody may even have any damn idea.

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Speaker 1: How do these schmucks listening right now have any idea?

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Speaker 1: You don't know anything? This could be really impressive.

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Speaker 3: I mean that that did not sound robotic at all,

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Speaker 3: and he actually gave a really good answer.

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Speaker 2: Let's face it, do we really say anything that just

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Speaker 2: can't be replaced by a robot? Honestly, you know, seriously,

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Speaker 2: but we need to use this cowhard app I feel

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Speaker 2: like and we need to like have it like actually

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Speaker 2: the part of the shelf, and like it's the cowherd

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Speaker 2: daily like advice of the day usk AI.

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Speaker 1: I like coward I listened to in the morning, so

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Speaker 1: I'm filing more coward. That's fine.

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Speaker 2: He's fully caught as inding, Why don't we put him

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Speaker 2: on the air from three to seven every day starting

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?

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Speaker 5: David?

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Speaker 1: What's that?

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Speaker 3: Dick?

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Speaker 1: See? That's how that works, Jackson.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday seventy six Ers Spurs game was a throwback night

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Speaker 2: for Philadelphia. NBC's broadcast of the game went along with

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Speaker 2: the throwback theme, including Bob Costas, Doug Collins, Mike Frittello,

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Speaker 2: and another AI version of Jim Fagan recreating their classic introduction.

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Speaker 1: This is the NBA on NBC Good Night.

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Speaker 4: The San Antonio Spurs visit the Philadelphia seventy six years Fitch.

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Speaker 1: Coast to Coast Tuesday presented Vakia a cold, rainy night

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Speaker 1: in the city of brotherly Love.

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Speaker 10: Philadelphia, the city where American democracy was born two hundred

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Speaker 10: and fifty years ago, going hence the name of the

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Speaker 10: city's NBA team, the seventy six Ers, who's night play

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Speaker 10: host to the San Antonio Spurs. It's game one of

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Speaker 10: the NBC's Coast to Coast Tuesday, which tonight is also

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Speaker 10: Throwback Tuesday, as we both of you to Expinity Mobile Arena.

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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, I'm.

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Speaker 10: Bob Costas with coach Doug Collins, four time All Star

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Speaker 10: with the seventy six ers, former.

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Speaker 1: NBA Coach of the Year, the guy.

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Speaker 10: That Marv dubbed bizarre, the telestrator Mike Frittello. So it's

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Speaker 10: throwback Tuesday. We put the old band back together. We

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Speaker 10: got the band back together, at least for one night.

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Speaker 10: So you know, Jim Fagan died nine years ago. That

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Speaker 10: guy right there, and if people didn't know he was dead,

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Speaker 10: they would think it's the dude.

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Speaker 1: He's just still doing it. You think it's kind of

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Speaker 1: creepy that they're doing that.

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Speaker 3: By the way, with NBC, I'm getting used to it

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Speaker 3: now because it started a little bit creepy with l

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Speaker 3: Michaels in the last Olympics.

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Speaker 1: But I'm getting I'm getting used to it now. And

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Speaker 1: I think you.

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Speaker 3: Took out the great line he said, does Crosby stills

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Speaker 3: Nash but not young?

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Speaker 2: That was a good lines dropped by Bob last night.

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Speaker 2: I I think it's weird. I think the fact that

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Speaker 2: you're getting used to it is kind of even weirder.

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Speaker 2: And it's kind of sad that we're getting used to

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Speaker 2: hearing humans replaced by robots. I don't want to ever

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Speaker 2: get used to that, by the way, ever, and.

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Speaker 1: I think it's almost no part of life.

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Speaker 2: No, not with not with voice talents and actors and

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Speaker 2: artists and things like that.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely Hagen's families raking in bucks because of AFT.

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Speaker 1: Do you want I robot? Because this is how you

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Speaker 1: get I robots? Totally.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you want to hear Dave Kneehouse called Mariner

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Speaker 2: games on a computer?

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Speaker 1: You want to bring him back. I wouldn't mind one game.

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Speaker 1: I would never I would never be in favor of that.

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Speaker 2: Ever, I think it's almost disrespectful, totally disrespectful. And if

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Speaker 2: I'm his family, I don't know. I mean, are they

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Speaker 2: making a lot of money of them? Well, I mean voice,

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Speaker 2: I guess they had to approve it right and say yes.

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Speaker 2: I'd feel very very queasy about it. Man again, but

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Speaker 2: this is the way of the world now. It's going

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Speaker 2: this way, whether we like it or not. A lot

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Speaker 2: of things are getting replaced by robots. Well let's keep

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Speaker 2: it here because later during actually we're gonna break Down't okay. Later,

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Speaker 2: during the NBC call of Spurs Philadelphia, Bob Costas used

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Speaker 2: some unfortunate phrasing when trying to celebrate broadcasting legends, Dick

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Speaker 2: Eversall and Dick Enberg kind.

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Speaker 1: It up to let me see Kelly graduates. I think

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Speaker 1: you said Edburgh too great.

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Speaker 10: Yes, six, someone's gonna cut that off and it's not

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Speaker 10: gonna sound right.

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Speaker 12: It's not gonna sound right, too great Richards Dick with

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Speaker 12: the last day and beginning with a knee to d yes, yes.

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Speaker 1: And thank you whoever edits that out box for three?

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Speaker 1: Trying to change the subject at this day?

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Speaker 12: Is social media?

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Speaker 1: Good host?

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Speaker 3: Oh that's that's a drop Jackson two great dicks great

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Speaker 3: dropped from Bob Gustas.

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Speaker 1: What's it like walking around the name like Dick? You

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Speaker 1: hear what ever? You hear it?

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Speaker 2: Kind of you know we're jokes. No, you've never heard

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Speaker 2: any jokes in your life about your name.

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Speaker 1: I would never. I would say the percentage of jokes sick.

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Speaker 2: I'm teeing it up for you. Of course you've heard

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Speaker 2: jokes about your name. I've heard jokes are on my

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Speaker 2: finish or you can ask me question and answer it too.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the answer really was anything that people

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Speaker 2: were curious about.

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Speaker 1: Of Course, you've heard name jokes about your name.

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Speaker 2: I hear jokes about my name for God's sakes, we

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Speaker 2: heard jokes about our two names together. Your names are

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Speaker 2: Softy and Dick. You know where we first heard that

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Speaker 2: from Tracy McGrady. You're the last guy to say that.

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Speaker 2: Tell us with Shaquille O'Neal uh get that drop by

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Speaker 2: the way, Like Dick said, We're gonna break Petrospapaoakas coming

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Speaker 2: up next on ninety three three kJ RFM.