1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Tony Pike sincey three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati, sponsored 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: in part by Cincy Shirts. 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 2: Cincy Shirts all since y all Day. 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 3: Good afternoon, welcome back our number two thanks to Cincy Shirts. 6 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 3: Thank you for listening on the Home of the Bengals, 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Let's get right to it. 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 3: Tuesday's one o'clock from Fox nineteen. Joe Danaman joining us 9 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 3: right now. 10 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 4: What's up, Joey d Tony. 11 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 5: P and Audi E. Happy Mary Early, Chris in New Year. 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 5: Excited for the holiday season. 13 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 3: Guys, I can't wait for the holiday season. I'm glad 14 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 3: it's here. I do have to ask you, Joe, outside 15 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 3: of anything Bengal related, what was your take on John 16 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 3: Cena's final match? 17 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 5: So Austin just asked me this question, and I'll give 18 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 5: it to you in a two part answer. I haven't 19 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 5: yet seen it, Gracey. You can't see me, and I'm 20 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 5: not the world's biggest John Cena fan. I understand whose impact, 21 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 5: but John Cena I can take or leave it, So 22 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 5: I'll see it. Haven't seen it yet, but I am 23 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 5: looking forward to seeing it because I understand his impact 24 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:21,639 Speaker 5: in the wrestling game, so it's a musty. 25 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 3: Okay, let's talk about impact. That's the the impact that 26 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow has on the Cincinnati Bengals. It was just 27 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 3: an odd week Joe, from Wednesday's press conference to the 28 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 3: way in which Joe played to hearing Jamar Chase talk 29 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 3: about Joe after the game. Are you at all concerned 30 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,279 Speaker 3: about number nine right now, whether it's on the field, 31 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 3: off the field physically, mentally, what's your level of concern 32 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 3: for Joe Burrow. 33 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 5: I'm not concerned for Joe Burrow because I believe in 34 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 5: what he's made of and I think he'll get out 35 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 5: of whatever rut he's in. I think what you said 36 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 5: about Jamar talking about it was important because we talk 37 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 5: so much about a quarterbacks having to elevate everybody around him. 38 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 5: There's a feeling now inside that locker room act or 39 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 5: what Joe talked about and the way he played on 40 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 5: Sunday that some of the guys who have been through 41 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 5: this with him, and you know, you look at the numbers, 42 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 5: there aren't a lot of guys anymore who have gone 43 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 5: through the twenty one and twenty two years and are 44 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 5: still around with the Bengals. I think, what eighty percent 45 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 5: of the roster has never played in a playoff game. 46 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 5: But the guys that have been around here need to 47 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 5: uplift him now. And I think that's Jamar, I think 48 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 5: that's te I think that's some key members of the 49 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 5: coaching staff who can get him out of whatever emotional 50 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 5: rut he's in because how he sounded on Wednesday is 51 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 5: how he played on Sunday, and we don't expect that 52 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 5: from him. He gets a pass, he's earned a pass 53 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 5: for a week. I expect him to bounce back with 54 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,679 Speaker 5: a different kind of energy week the Bengals needed, the 55 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 5: team needs, that, the organization does. But I think that's 56 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 5: going to start with Jamar Chase and if t Higgins 57 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 5: can get out of concussion protocol, I think it starts 58 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 5: with those two guys as well, rallying around him performing 59 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 5: at a really high level on Sunday in Miami and 60 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 5: helping Joe Burrow get past whatever's bothering him. 61 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 3: Outside of Joe Burrow's play, it felt like Jamar Chase 62 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 3: was a tick off on Sunday. It felt like the 63 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 3: offensive line didn't protect in a way that we've seen 64 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 3: them play over the last couple of weeks. Where do 65 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 3: you point to when looking back on Sunday, do you 66 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: say just one of those games that you throw away 67 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 3: the tape and you move on from, or where do 68 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 3: you feel like is the deeper rooted issue with what 69 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 3: we saw from this offense Sunday. 70 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 5: The hardest thing you can do is to point an 71 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 5: accusatory finger at a player's effort level, because these guys 72 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 5: will tell you we get it. The NFL is a 73 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 5: wins business, the bottom line business of winning games. But 74 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 5: this is fundamental to what they are and who they 75 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 5: are as professional athletes, is showing up and performing at 76 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 5: their highest level no matter what the circumstance is. You know, 77 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 5: guys will always tell you it's on film. Guys will 78 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 5: always tell you they're competing for jobs. And those two 79 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 5: things are accurate and correct. But this is the ultimate 80 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 5: test of professionalism for this group here the next three weeks, 81 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 5: because the situation here at Cincinnati is more unique than 82 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 5: other teams who are playing out the string, because I'm 83 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 5: not sure many other cities where teams right now who 84 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 5: have been eliminated from the playoffs, and just pick your 85 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 5: Cleveland Browns or Las Vegas Raiders came into the season 86 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 5: of the expectation that the Bengals have had, and an 87 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 5: expectation that considers the weight of two straight years not 88 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 5: making the playoffs and everyone's circling this year and saying, Okay, 89 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 5: they better do this or else. Well, we're here now. 90 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 5: The question is what is or else? And we don't 91 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 5: know that answer, And certainly what Paul Daanner Junior wrote 92 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 5: today maybe shed some light on that answer what we're 93 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 5: going to see here in the upcoming offseason. But it's 94 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 5: hard to sit here over the phone talking to you 95 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 5: and you're a professional, former professional football player in point 96 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 5: of figure at a guy's effort. But I can tell 97 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 5: you that's what it looked like on Sunday. That's what 98 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 5: it felt like, and sometimes that can be just as 99 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 5: damning if you do or you don't. Is just what 100 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 5: the perception is. It felt like the mood and the 101 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 5: tone of the building was set on Wednesday, and they 102 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 5: played like that on Sunday. Now, can they dig themselves 103 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 5: out of this the next three weeks and pass that 104 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 5: test of professionalism? They know the spotlights on them, they 105 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 5: know people are now watching for it. The question is 106 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 5: will they perform better than they did on Sunday. They 107 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 5: can't perform worse, They're certainly that, but we just want 108 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 5: to see at this point this team be about the 109 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 5: right stuff, react in the right way, and finish this 110 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 5: season out the correct way. As of now, we know 111 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 5: Joe's playing this week and the final three weeks. That 112 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 5: could change, we'll see, but if he's going to play, 113 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 5: the standard shouldn't change, and the standard is much higher 114 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 5: than what we saw against the Raiders. 115 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 3: So does that, in your opinion, that outweigh any conversation 116 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 3: of sitting guys or making decisions on who to player, 117 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 3: who not to play. I know you can't go into 118 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 3: a game and tank outwardly, but you look at the 119 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 3: holes that this team has going forward and trying to 120 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 3: get back to what's most important to Joe Burrow, which 121 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 3: is the super Bowl window. You're I guess a higher 122 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 3: likelihood to get there if you can get better players 123 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 3: in the draft. Do you at all listen to the 124 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 3: other side of it, of there is a point to 125 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 3: resting guys or making decisions on some guys down the 126 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 3: stretch in order to get a higher draft pick. 127 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 5: I think it's very nuanced. I think it's a hard 128 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 5: balancing act, and I think it's a case by case 129 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 5: basis for each individual player. And I guess we'll start 130 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 5: with Joe because that's going to be the most talked 131 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 5: about one here the rest of this week and then 132 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 5: going forward the final couple of weeks. I believe the 133 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 5: organization listens to Joe. We we all know that. But 134 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 5: I also think the organization can't always just give Joe 135 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 5: what he wants. It's kind of a blank check thought 136 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 5: that if Joe wants to play, Joe's going to play. 137 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 5: I think it needs to be discussed and talked about 138 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 5: and strategized on a multi level level, and that that 139 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,679 Speaker 5: being coaches, front office, ownership, everybody has to be involved 140 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 5: in this. I do believe fundamentally at my core that 141 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 5: if a guy like Joe Burrow is paid the way 142 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 5: he's played, if you're paid to do something and you're 143 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 5: able to do it, you've got to show up and 144 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 5: do it. That's just part of life. You know, you 145 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 5: get paid a lot of money do the work. But 146 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 5: it's more nuanced than that. We get it. But I 147 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 5: also think it goes back to Joe in his happiness 148 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 5: Joe's saying that he needs to be happy doing this. 149 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 5: I'm not sure Joe's going to be happy sitting on 150 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 5: the bench the final three weeks watching his team play football. 151 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 5: He worked so hard to get back, and maybe the 152 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 5: motivation was to get back in time to help this 153 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 5: team make the kind of run they made last year. 154 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 5: Maybe it was just to get back because he misses 155 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 5: the game and loves playing. And if he misses the 156 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 5: game and loves playing, and that's what he always says, 157 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 5: I think you have to let the guy play. Considering 158 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 5: what he talked about last week, I mean, it would 159 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 5: not be good for Joe's mental health to be sitting 160 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 5: on the bench and watching this if that's what he 161 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 5: truly wants is to play football. There are case by 162 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 5: case basis throughout the organization. Maybe the t Higgins conversation 163 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 5: has had where he's had the bad concussion he had 164 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 5: in the home game and then went to Bolton to 165 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 5: Buffalo and was dinged up a couple of times and 166 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 5: missed the Baltimore games. Maybe there's a conversation about him 167 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 5: shutting it down for the rest of the year. But 168 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 5: as of goes with Joe Burrow, I think they need 169 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 5: to let him play, or least for now, have the 170 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 5: plan to let him play. Considering where he was last 171 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 5: week and considering how hard he worked to get back, 172 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 5: I believe he pulled the rug out from underneath him. 173 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 5: It wouldn't do him good and mentally. So if he 174 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 5: wants to play, I think he should play, and I 175 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 5: think he should. I think he should play because of 176 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 5: how he's paid and and and that that's part of 177 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 5: his job and he has to perform on Sundays and 178 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 5: if he's able, he should go. So I'm in agreement 179 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 5: they should play him, guys, but that should change the week, 180 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 5: should team if if it continues looking like he did 181 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 5: on Sunday. 182 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 4: Joe, you sit down with Zach Taylor every week, and 183 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 4: yesterday he said that he has a brick wall all 184 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 4: the way around him that kind of shields him from 185 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 4: the criticism. He doesn't see it, he doesn't hear it, 186 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 4: he doesn't pay attention to it. Uh. Do you believe 187 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 4: that when when he says he doesn't hear the outside noise. 188 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 5: I do believe it. I don't know necessarily if that's 189 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 5: healthy to not have a feeling of what's going on, 190 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 5: but I do know Zak has a pulse of what's said, 191 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 5: what's being written about him and about the team. He 192 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 5: will famously tell you that he quote doesn't have the 193 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 5: Internet on his phone, that he just makes uses it 194 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 5: for calling and for texting and to get done when 195 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 5: he has to get done. But yeah, he doesn't go 196 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 5: on his phone and scroll and look through things. That 197 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 5: That one is something he'll say publicly, and I believe 198 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 5: it to be true. I haven't looked at the man's phone, 199 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 5: but he'll often say that. But he's certainly very aware 200 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 5: of what's said about him. He hears things on the field. 201 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 5: How could you not hear something coming from the crowd. 202 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 5: But I do believe it's probably one of those things 203 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 5: that you have to have a healthy balance UF, just 204 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 5: like we talked about with Burrow. The last question was, 205 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 5: you know, trying to tinker and look at things for 206 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 5: twenty twenty six and maybe sitting some players but also 207 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 5: put other players, maybe like a Shamar Stewart. You push 208 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 5: him to get back on the field the final two 209 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 5: weeks to have a better idea of what he's about. 210 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 5: You keep pushing the rookies to see more of what 211 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 5: they can and can't do with Zach Taylor, it's you've 212 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 5: got to isolate yourself otherwise it will drive you absolutely crazy. Uh, 213 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 5: the criticism. You guys work as well in the public light, 214 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 5: and you know when when you share thoughts or opinions 215 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 5: or whether it's on Twitter or on the show, and 216 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 5: you're going to get backlash and you see it, and 217 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 5: how can it not bother you? Sometimes when you do 218 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 5: see it. We're all human beings. So I think it's 219 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 5: important for Zach to kind of have that, as he 220 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 5: called it, a brick wall up to keep him insulated 221 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 5: from everything that happens. I know there are things that 222 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 5: bother him if people and he lives a public life. 223 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 5: He has children, he has a wife that his has 224 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 5: sporting events, and it can bother him when people come 225 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 5: after his family at those kinds of events. But for 226 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 5: him to be able to isolate and insulate himself from 227 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 5: all that stuff, I think that's really the only thing 228 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 5: you can do as a football coach during times like this. 229 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 5: And that's part of hazard pay that that's part of 230 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 5: why you get paid as much as you get paid, 231 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 5: is that you're going to live this public life and 232 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 5: you're going to be criticized and people are going to 233 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 5: come at you and say things, and that's part of it. 234 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 5: He gets that, So I think it's important for him 235 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 5: to understand the voice of the fan base, but also 236 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 5: at the same time to properly do his job and 237 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 5: not be distracted. He probably has to put up that 238 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 5: quote unquote isolated brickwall to keep him away from what's 239 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 5: being said. 240 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 4: So, based off of what Paul Dayner Junior wrote today, 241 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 4: it's more probable than not that Zach is going to 242 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 4: be the head coach of the Bengals in twenty twenty six. 243 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 4: If we assume that that's going to be the case, 244 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 4: how do they fix what went wrong this year? What 245 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,599 Speaker 4: is the first step. 246 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 5: They've got to nail it? In free agency and obviously 247 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 5: the big decision that will be made on Trey Henderson 248 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 5: And I don't know. It kind of feels like Trey 249 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 5: poisoned the waters enough that the Bengals wouldn't even bother it. 250 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 5: But you could franchise tag that and have the control 251 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 5: of that asset again this coming off season with Zach Taylor. 252 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 5: And I want to make one point about this too, 253 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 5: is you know, you know, we talked so much about 254 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 5: it being a bottom line business in a wink business, 255 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 5: and it hasn't been good enough. And Zak will tell 256 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 5: you it hasn't been good enough. And this isn't going 257 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 5: to be me going on a tangent to carry Zach 258 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 5: Taylor's water. It's more or less an understanding of his 259 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 5: place in the organization and why the Browns and the 260 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 5: front office would want him to come back for another season, 261 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 5: given that he now has two years on his contract, 262 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 5: and that was new information to me from Paul Dayner 263 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 5: Junior in his article today. But he's the voice of 264 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 5: the organization and it's such a unique space in Cincinnati 265 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 5: for the head coach and his responsibility to answer questions. 266 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 5: He was taking questions yesterday about the lack of snow 267 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 5: removal inside the stadium. I mean, the Brown family is 268 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 5: comfortable with him being the voice. And if they're comfortable 269 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 5: with that, that's a reason. That's the checkpoint. That's the 270 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 5: check mark for why Zach Taylor will keep his job. 271 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 5: If he ultimately keeps his job, the other would be 272 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 5: we would go back to maybe Joe Burrow shouldn't always 273 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 5: get his way, but his relationship with Zak Taylor is 274 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 5: going to carry a lot of weight. He loves playing 275 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 5: for Zak, he loves Zach's scheme, and he's publicly multiple 276 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 5: times stumped for his head coach. So again another thing 277 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 5: that's going to carry weight for Zach Taylor's future. But 278 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 5: if you're talking about them not making major changes, and 279 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 5: if we were betting people, I think we would all 280 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 5: bet right now that Zach Taylor and Duke Tobin are 281 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 5: back on their seeing spots in this offseason and going 282 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 5: towards next year. This isn't good enough, they'll tell you that, 283 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 5: but just that's lip service. It's time for change. It's 284 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 5: time for something to change. You know. You look at 285 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 5: the Chicago Bears and the change they made in their 286 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 5: voice at coach and boom overnight, all of a sudden, 287 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 5: they're a completely different team. And if that's not going 288 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 5: to change, the Bengals have to hit in free agency. 289 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 5: It can't be just try to draft and develop and 290 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 5: see if we can put together a defense with young players, 291 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 5: and then you go through this cycle again of young 292 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 5: players trying to figure it out next year and you 293 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 5: waste another season and all of a sudden, Joe Burrow 294 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 5: is thirty years old. So I think they have to 295 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 5: nail it. They have to be aggressive in free agency. 296 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 5: That is the only way for me to see this 297 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 5: team get out of the rut they're in right now. 298 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 5: The defense has to go from I don't want to 299 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 5: do another offseason of just get to league average. That 300 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 5: is so tired in Cincinnati because I don't think league 301 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 5: average is going to win a Super And if you're 302 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 5: not playing for Super Bowls, what are you playing for? 303 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 5: And so they have to nail it in free agency. 304 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 5: The first big decision will be what to do with 305 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 5: Trey Henderson in that asset. And they have the money, 306 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 5: they can do it. It's time to make some splashes 307 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 5: and maybe go back to the twenty twenty one model 308 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 5: and build this thing through free agency, even though they 309 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 5: don't have the kind of flexibility they had then because 310 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 5: of Joe. 311 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 3: Jamo's contracts on the defensive side of the ball, Joe, 312 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 3: you know, Austin mentioned earlier coming out of the bye week, 313 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 3: outside of you know, the finish in Buffalo, have you 314 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 3: seen both defensive scheme changes and individual player development that 315 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 3: do give you some hope and promise for some players 316 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 3: on that side of the ball. 317 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 5: You can't see me now but I'm kind of shrugging like, yeah, sure, 318 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 5: but yeah sure. There's been some individual improvement. Certainly, I 319 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 5: think the Bengals can now rely on Miles Murphy in 320 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 5: twenty twenty six as a contributor. I think they can 321 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 5: now look at DJ Turner as their cornerback one. I 322 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 5: think they can look at Joseph o'sai and say, Okay, 323 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 5: maybe we consider bringing him back in twenty twenty six 324 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 5: as an edge contributor. I think they've seen finally some 325 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 5: flashes from Demetrius Knight, some playmaking to sack Lamar Jackson 326 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 5: twice to get the interception on Banksgiving Night. They talk 327 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 5: often about Brett Carter now settling down in the pre 328 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 5: snap and having a better understanding of where to be, 329 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 5: what to do. I don't know if it's really translated 330 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 5: in him to playing great football, but those are individuals 331 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 5: who have shown things, and then also the individuals who 332 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 5: have shown they can't do it. That the Geno stones 333 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 5: of the world. And now we have more information on 334 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 5: Cam Taylor Britt and they understand that they need help 335 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 5: in the middle on the defensive line. So to me, 336 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 5: it's just as much about seeing individuals who are ascending 337 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 5: as much as it is seeing individuals who have descended 338 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 5: into shouldn't be back in two thousand in twenty six 339 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 5: and allowing some of those guys to play a full season, 340 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,959 Speaker 5: you get a better read on what you have and 341 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 5: what you don't have, And sometimes what you don't have 342 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 5: is just as important because then you know what you 343 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 5: have to address in the upcoming offseason. 344 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 3: What do we have to address right now is what's 345 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 3: coming up for Fox nineteen. What do you got coming 346 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 3: up this week? Joe, last full week before the holidays 347 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 3: are here? 348 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 4: Next week? What do you got man? 349 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 5: So we're gonna run it back Wednesday night. Tomorrow night. 350 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 5: We're giving Miles Murphy a second shot. Miles had a 351 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 5: pipe burst last week, a couple of hours before the show, 352 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 5: so we had to cancel mad Joel, you can't drink drin. 353 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 5: Jeremy Row and I were sitting on stage trying to 354 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 5: entertain a poor crowd for an hour when Miles couldn't 355 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 5: make it. So Miles Murphy and then Jordan Battle Guys. 356 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:04,959 Speaker 5: Battle predicted midweek he was going to intercept Lamar Jackson 357 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 5: in the second quarter, and he intercepted Lamar Jackson in 358 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 5: the second quarter. It's one of those fun storylines that 359 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 5: you really can't talk about when the Bengals get shut out. 360 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 5: So we'll talk about it tomorrow night the Big Bengals Party. 361 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 5: Bengals Now live at Newport on the Levee at six o'clock. 362 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 5: It is free, it is warm, get a chance to 363 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 5: get some pictures and some autographs, and we do some 364 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 5: fun storytelling with a couple of Cincinnati Bengals. 365 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 3: Awesome, awesome stuff. Any holiday plans for you next week? 366 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 5: I'm taking some time off work, guys, So. 367 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 3: Man, nice, yeah, say again, You're taking the family down 368 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 3: to Memphis. 369 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 4: Say again, Joe, what did you ask for for Christmas? Anything? 370 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 5: No, I did not ask for anything. I was gonna 371 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 5: ask you, guys, if this is a good presence I have, 372 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 5: say again, I have three children, three boys who love 373 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 5: the Cincinnati Bengals. Is getting them tickets to the Bengals 374 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 5: and Cardinals a good gift? 375 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 4: If Joe Burrow is playing? Yes, yes, I would say so, Okay, okay. 376 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,719 Speaker 5: I was wondering about making them sit outside in the 377 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 5: cold fourteen. It's not going to the playoffs, but two 378 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 5: of them have never been. 379 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 4: Oh wow, Well, they can't bring cardboard. Make sure they 380 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 4: know that hopefully doesn't snow before that thing. Now, I 381 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 4: couldn't believe it when we we were denied at the Interests. 382 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 5: It was like, really, i'mbelievable to put under your feet 383 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 5: right to keep? Yeah, yeah, wow tough. That's a bad beat, Audie. 384 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 4: Bad beat. 385 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 5: Hmmm. 386 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 3: I think it's a great gift, Dan. And if that 387 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 3: doesn't work, we got a couple of bobbleheads for you. 388 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 3: It's better to Gino Stone Jersey, that's for sure. 389 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 5: Oh yeah right, that'll last about what three more weeks. 390 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 4: Joe Daniman and family walking in Memphis for New Year's 391 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 4: Day again, day again, the best. Yeah, Joe, I have 392 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 4: a great one. 393 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 3: That's Joe Danaman Fox nineteen always kind enough to join 394 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 3: us on Tuesday afternoons. Your talkbacks come next. ESPN fifteen 395 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 3: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 396 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 6: Hey, Alexa, here's that pipe for talkbacks. 397 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 7: With that microphone and record a message O Hunter the 398 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:27,479 Speaker 7: missile toe. 399 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 4: I'd be mission an keeper. 400 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 8: This Jo, you better not be naughty. 401 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 5: That's that tight for talkbacks. It's the most wonderful time 402 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 5: of the show. 403 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 8: Austin and HODI, will you tie this very slow today? 404 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 4: And try not to shabotage Merry Christmas. 405 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 3: Indeed, let's get to the Tuesday edition of Talkbacks. Thanks 406 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 3: to our friends here at Cincy Shirts. 407 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 4: Just love listening to those bells. They're so calming. 408 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 5: Good morning everyone, love the show. 409 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 9: Huge Bengals fan going to the Miami game this weekend. 410 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 9: I just wanted to see if you guys could pass 411 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 9: a message along for me. 412 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 5: Duke Tobin is a bomb. 413 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 4: You go, Duke. Sure Duke is listening right now. 414 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 10: Hello, Tony, Tony, this is evident, even Davi with a 415 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 10: moment of clarity, you see Clifton is clearly the minor leagues. 416 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 10: We are the training grounds for major college sports. We 417 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 10: cannot compete under this broken system. We cannot act like 418 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 10: Ohio State since we don't have the bank like Ohio State. 419 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 10: We must rethink everything, rethink at all from scratch. 420 00:22:55,680 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 8: Hey, everybody, If anybody knows of a good therapist, free 421 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 8: to share it on Talkbacks, because I've got a I 422 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 8: got a hell of a case in Stockholm syndrome where 423 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 8: I just can't stop caring about the Bengals even though 424 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 8: they just abuse the hell out of me, you know, 425 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 8: but I still love him. Shoot, I wish our marriage 426 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 8: is could be this strong in this country. 427 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 4: Man. 428 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 8: Sorry, honey, I did it again. 429 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 11: Hey guys, Marcus from the grove, Nick Fraud, we need 430 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 11: you to make a move, Oh boy, give us a 431 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 11: reason to talk about you, because outside of this, at 432 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 11: least ODDI has the buck guys still in the playoff. 433 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 5: Me and Tony got nothing nothing. 434 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 11: We need to start talking about the Reds and any 435 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 11: move that Fraud and the front office can make. Let's 436 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 11: get it done a hundred days of opening day. 437 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 4: Nick Fraud. Wow, I agree, though, we need something. 438 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's Greg. 439 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 12: You know, a couple of years ago it was kind 440 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 12: of suspicious that the Chiefs led their top notch left 441 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 12: tackle where Orlando Brown go? Well, I can tell you 442 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 12: I just put a bow on the season Sunday after 443 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 12: watching him again. Orlando Brown Junior stinks. 444 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 4: Oh, Chiefs would take him right now in a heartbeat. 445 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 13: There probably Hey Tony, Hey Elsen, it's the Lord, Hi Lord. 446 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 8: Hey. 447 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 13: Have you two heard about this trainer games? Have you 448 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 13: looked into it? No, Tony, I think you should represent 449 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 13: Cincinnati and Talkback Nation as a representative for trainer games. 450 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 4: If it requires something athletic. Tony didn't have much of 451 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 4: a shot. I don't know what trainer games is. 452 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 11: Oratulations to the harangutang. Yes, it's wheat loo Yeah, BP 453 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 11: and Reggie, don't call me Dion Sanders well deserved. 454 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 4: Fame, he said, don't call me Dion. Yeah, what's up? 455 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,959 Speaker 14: Guy Speakahunick, Kentucky with Paul D's report yesterday that Taylor's 456 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 14: got two years left and he's gonna be back. 457 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 4: I mean, I hate Taylor. 458 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,719 Speaker 14: I mean you all know I want him fired more 459 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 14: than anybody, and I've been on it for five years. 460 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 14: But with that says he's gonna be here, all we 461 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 14: can do is rally behind Taylor. All win for Taylor, 462 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 14: All win for Taylor. I hope he wins. I hope 463 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 14: he wins the Super Bowl next year. I'm turning my 464 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 14: focus to get rid of West Miller. This guy's a clown. 465 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 14: I'm even going to the Centa Center tomorrow to watch 466 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 14: Xavier Creighton. But on my way down, I'm gonna stop 467 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 14: at Long Necks and Wilder. 468 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 4: And get that chicken Caesadeah boy, it's good. Okay. 469 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 15: Hey, there two tuesdays before Christmas, Tony and Austin Tony, 470 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 15: what was the best gift you ever got from a 471 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 15: ball game? 472 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 16: Did you ever get anything cool? 473 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 4: Like an xbox of a polaystation, one of those? 474 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 15: And Austin inquiring minds would like to know what kind 475 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 15: of car did you get from your parents? 476 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 3: Oh, go ahead, Tony. One of the Bowl games. It 477 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 3: was a There was like a Best Buy suite and 478 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 3: you got a certain amount of money that you could 479 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 3: get whatever you wanted out a sweet and I got 480 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 3: this awesome lazy boy recliner. 481 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 4: Nice. You still have it all comfortable. I gave it 482 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 4: to my parents. Oh what a guy? But it was nice. 483 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 5: Man. 484 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 4: I was given a gifted a Kia Optima, the twenty 485 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 4: fifteen Kia Optima. It had a remote start, had heated seats. 486 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 4: It was like parents customized it a little bit. It 487 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 4: was cool as hell fire. It was totaled in a 488 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 4: hit and run accident against me. Oh but they'll never 489 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 4: take those moments back. I missed that car every day, 490 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 4: especially day like weeks like this week. 491 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 3: Phil, if you're listening, you need an idea for Christmas? 492 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 3: It was it was that remote start. That's big time. 493 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 3: That's big time. 494 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 5: Start one bench, one cut one. 495 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 17: Mike Brown's Christmas List Money blinders, ear muffs. 496 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 3: I think anyone would always start money. I think this 497 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 3: time of the year, everybody wants some money. Yeah, you'd 498 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 3: bench the ear muffs just because you got to be warm, 499 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 3: and then cut the blinders. 500 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 4: I agree. I bought a shisty that when you know 501 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 4: it goes over your head and your mouth and everything. Yeah, 502 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 4: that's been one of the best investments of my life. 503 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 4: Nice and I've had it for three days. 504 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 17: Hey, boys, hard to believe that going into the weekend, 505 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 17: I had the path, though it was a narrow going 506 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 17: to the Super Bowl, and coming out of the weekend, 507 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 17: we're now looking for the path. I think we can 508 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 17: get the number one draft pick if things play out right. 509 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 4: Possible. 510 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 17: Uh, check me on the tie breaker, but I think wecam. 511 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 4: I think the Bengals can pick anywhere from one to sixteen. 512 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 4: Why I saw that tank. If I saw that correctly 513 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 4: from our guy Joe Goodberry, I'm pretty sure it's between 514 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 4: one and sixteen. 515 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 7: Tony Austin old man grumpy. Hey, I don't want to 516 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 7: be a one trick pony. But what will it take 517 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 7: for Zach Taylor and Duke Tobin to get fired? I 518 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 7: don't understand losing games when they score forty, quarterback losing 519 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 7: faith in his ability, and getting beat twenty four to 520 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 7: nothing when the season's on the line. I just don't 521 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 7: understand it. 522 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 5: Enlighten me. 523 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 4: The answer is nothing, as we talked earlier. Nothing. We'll 524 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 4: change that. Kudos to Paul for the article. 525 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 18: But the bottom line problem here is you could offer 526 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 18: them seven billion dollars for a team worth six and 527 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 18: they wouldn't take it. 528 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 4: It's just all they. 529 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 18: Know, and they're not going to build a house in 530 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 18: Turks and caicos and drink umbrella drinks. And just as 531 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 18: bad that the two youngsters on the way up are 532 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 18: learning from mom and grandpa. 533 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 4: It seems like we're an inevitable loop here. 534 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 19: Almost those guy's got it all figured out for next year. 535 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 19: I think that they can probably just go zero to 536 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 19: six and then just win the last ten games and 537 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,959 Speaker 19: go in there with a ten and six record. 538 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 4: Well, they've all figured out. They camp fire him. Now, 539 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 4: what about the other game still going to play? Seventeen? 540 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 16: Hey, Jeff and Casey here on your debate about should 541 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 16: we try to win these games? Let Joe Burrow play 542 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 16: or do we more about draft pick placement? 543 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 4: Uh? 544 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 16: Losing is never good. Trust me, watching those teams all 545 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 16: through the nineties and the early two thousands, what all 546 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 16: you had to root for was draft pick placement. It's 547 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 16: not worth it. You can't let losing mindset in the building. 548 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 16: You need to to win. 549 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 4: He needs to play, Okay, I agree, all right? 550 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 10: Reggie Sanders, Cincinnati Red Hall of Famer. 551 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 4: I love it. 552 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 6: The guy who's struck out nineteen times during the playoffs 553 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 6: nineteen ninety five. 554 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 10: That's very exciting. Who's next, Bip Roberts? Oh hee, raise 555 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 10: your hand if you're Shrek. 556 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 4: I love it. 557 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 10: You know what would have been even more exciting had 558 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 10: the Red signed Kyle Schwarber. 559 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 4: Did you know he was from Middletown? 560 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 10: And did you know Joe Burrow is the exact same 561 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 10: age as an man? 562 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll Roberts slander. Unfortunate that the Reggie Sanders will 563 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 4: always be remembered for the postseason, but his ninety five 564 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 4: regular season was, I mean, one of the best in 565 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 4: Red's history. 566 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 6: As the screens get louder for change from the fan base, 567 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:55,719 Speaker 6: do people like Caroline and Elizabeth who have a pulse 568 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 6: on the fans, how are they inputting to the family 569 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 6: do we think and are they taking some of that 570 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 6: into consideration? I Mike and Mike and Katy, because they 571 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 6: have to be listening to this somewhere, and how is 572 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 6: that working behind the scenes. 573 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 4: I can promise you that there is more consideration to 574 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 4: the external view of the franchise than at any point 575 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 4: in its history. I don't know that it has much weight. 576 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 4: I would say it still carries very little weight. But 577 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 4: I know that it is discussed and thought about more 578 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 4: than any other point yep in the history of the franchise. 579 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 20: Question fellas, Okay, who do you start Fantasy Championship Week? 580 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 4: Joe Burrow or Matthew Stafford. Oh that's tough. Adam's hurt 581 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 4: Mkua banged up in Seattle. But Joe Burrow just came 582 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 4: off a game with zero points. I do believe that 583 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 4: playing in Miami and coming off that performance, Burrow will 584 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 4: at least to Borrow. I think I know we'll make 585 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 4: it a point to bounce back in a big way. 586 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 4: Might have to Leen Burrow. Is it a two week game? Oh, point, 587 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 4: it's a two week game. I might go Burrow this week, 588 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 4: Stafford next week. 589 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 21: Shout out to a really solid Cincinnati read Hall of 590 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 21: Fame class, Brandon Phillips, who was an automatic shoe in 591 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 21: lou Panilla, Aaron Harangue, and the very underrated Reggie Sanders. 592 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 21: Congratulations to Reggie Sanders, one of my favorite Reds players 593 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 21: of all time. 594 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 22: Yes, sir, will the Bengals sign some top tier free 595 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 22: agents next year? 596 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 23: Say again? 597 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 22: Will the Bengals sign some top tier free agents next year? 598 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 5: Say again? 599 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 22: Will the Reds sign a power hitter by next year? 600 00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 5: Say again? 601 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 22: And the red sign a power hitter next season? Say again? 602 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 4: Well done? Can I play Devil's advocate for a moment? 603 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 4: Well done? Sure, Bengals fans wanted them to sign Dalton Reisner, 604 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 4: they did. They wanted them to to sign Noah Fan 605 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 4: they did. They wanted him to sign Trey Hendrickson they did. 606 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 4: They did also sign Lucas Patrick, although that clearly wasn't 607 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 4: the best move, but they they tried to beef up 608 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 4: that position, like all of the free agents that I 609 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 4: can think of that people really wanted them to sign 610 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 4: in that back half leading into the season. They did. Right, 611 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 4: Is there anyone like I'm sure? 612 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 3: I don't know. I feel like the Risner thing came 613 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 3: because all the other guys were taken because they didn't 614 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 3: do anything fair. 615 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 4: Yes, and it was way late in the process. Availability 616 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 4: I know there's some guys I'm missing, And I'm not 617 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 4: saying that they couldn't have done more, but I do 618 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 4: feel like that's kind of lost. Is they did sign 619 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,760 Speaker 4: all those guys. 620 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 9: Oh, I'm probably too late, but they Reggie Sanders, that's 621 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 9: a blast from the past. 622 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 4: Brandon Phillips. 623 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 9: You asked me name how many second basemen were better 624 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 9: defensively than Brandon Phillips. 625 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 4: None jumps to my mind. Zero. 626 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 9: Shout out to Craig Bidjo. He turned sixty yesterday. I 627 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 9: had a phenomenal career. I think they said, Pooholtz only 628 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,800 Speaker 9: right handed hitter with more doubles. 629 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 4: Wow, that was pretty good. Matt Carpenter hit a bunch 630 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 4: of doubles one year. Yeah, he did fifty five in 631 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 4: twenty and thirteen. Remember that BI show three thousand hits, right, 632 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 4: just got right at the end of his career, got 633 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 4: to three thousand Monster, I could play Monster. 634 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 20: Hey guys, Jeff and you Richmond. Happy Tuesday two Yet 635 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 20: I have not had a chance to read Paul's article yet. 636 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 20: I'm hoping to do it later this afternoon. So this 637 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 20: extension with Zach was this done years ago and we 638 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 20: just didn't know about it? Or is this something that 639 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 20: was just done recently thanks. 640 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:19,240 Speaker 3: End of the twenty twenty two AFC Championships game season. 641 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, so right a year after signing another one, they 642 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 4: gave him basically another extra year. So and we didn't 643 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 4: know about it, and we rarely do when it comes 644 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 4: to coaching County. 645 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 3: Yes, that was our last one. Five a break, Football 646 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 3: and Natti. More phone calls Scott Sadderfield moll Lagger between 647 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 3: now and three o'clock since he three sixty coach of 648 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 3: Sidney shirts. He had fifteen thirty Cincinnati sports station man Trouble. 649 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: In the Natti brought to you by butt Light on 650 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals. 651 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 3: All right, welcome back, little football in the now, not 652 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 3: a little Bengals in the Natti. But let's go with 653 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 3: this here, Austin, because as we get into this week, 654 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 3: we dive a little bit deeper into the college football 655 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 3: bowl season, including the College Football Playoff now Wednesday, of course, 656 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 3: the highly anticipated Staff DNA Cure Bowl between Old Dominion 657 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,479 Speaker 3: and South Florida of course, the sixty eight Ventures Bowl, 658 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 3: Xbox Bowl. 659 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,399 Speaker 4: That makes all that makes me want to throw up 660 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 4: Myrtle Beach Bowl. You think of anything I care about less. 661 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 3: Union Home Mortgage gas Parilla Bowl. That all leads up 662 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 3: between tomorrow and Friday. And then you do get. 663 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 4: If you didn't have to work, would you watch the 664 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 4: Bearcats and the Liberty Bowl? Yes? 665 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 3: Just because it's rucy. Yeah, I would still watch, although 666 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 3: I don't thought the standard was hired. We'll hear from 667 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 3: Scott Souderfield. I don't know at this point the rate 668 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 3: it's going, if they'll have a team to play in 669 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 3: that bowl game. But we'll dive into that. 670 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 4: And are you familiarizing yourself at the bottom of the 671 00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:01,439 Speaker 4: depth chart in preparation a little bit? You gotta dive deep. 672 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 3: But Friday night brings us the first college football playoff game. 673 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 3: It's gonna be in Norman, Oklahoma, Oklahoma and Alabama. Saturday 674 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 3: you get Miami at Texas A and m TU Lane 675 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:22,240 Speaker 3: at Old Miss, and then of course James Madison at Oregon. 676 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 3: I don't think the Oregon and James Madison game will 677 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 3: be close. That's a twenty one point spread. I don't 678 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 3: see the Old Miss game being close. That's a seventeen 679 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 3: and a half point spread. 680 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 4: Which begs the question, because those games are going to 681 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 4: be going on at the same time, Tony as the 682 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 4: NFL games, what are you gonna be? What do you watch? NFL? Okay? 683 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 3: Also like the Old Miss t lane thing. Old Miss 684 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,879 Speaker 3: beat him forty five to ten this year. It's a rematch. Yeah, 685 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 3: I am interested though, and I think the spreads speak 686 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 3: volumes in those Texas and Miami, Oklahoma Alabama sure easily 687 00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 3: the best first round games you're gonna have. 688 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 4: Saturday games in the NFL five pm Eagles at Commanders. 689 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 4: Not like that's a great matchup either. 690 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 11: No. 691 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 4: And eight twenty pm Packers Bears. Now that's a good 692 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 4: one now that I'm interested in. I mean, Packers Bears 693 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,399 Speaker 4: are James Madison and Oregon. Yeah, come on, I'm gonna 694 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,879 Speaker 4: take Packers Bears. But and this is obviously thinking through 695 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,720 Speaker 4: the lens of you can only watch one. It's twenty 696 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 4: twenty five. You can watch both at once. We know 697 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 4: how it works, but I would I don't know that 698 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 4: I'm all that excited for either one of those late games, 699 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,479 Speaker 4: but I am excited for Friday night and the noon games. 700 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:32,839 Speaker 5: Yeah. 701 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 3: You know what's crazy is the the Friday night game 702 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 3: you could still get in one hundred and seventy seven bucks. 703 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 4: Is it gonna snow there? I don't know, No, it 704 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 4: would be it's gonna be fifty one at Oklahoma? Oh okay? 705 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 3: What is What is interesting though, if you look at 706 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 3: all these games Oregon right now that get in prices 707 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 3: eighty seven dollars, Old Miss, Tulane three hundred and six, yeah, 708 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 3: a and m Miami two ninety six Oklahoma Alabama won 709 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 3: seventy seven Yeah, to go to those games. 710 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 4: So some of those bigger fan base are probably saving 711 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 4: their money in the event that they win to go 712 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 4: travel to one of those bowl games. Sure against one 713 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 4: of the buy teams, but yeah, I mean schools like 714 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 4: Old Miss, you know, they may never get back to 715 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,399 Speaker 4: the playoff. Sure their direction they're going. 716 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 3: But it is a quick reminder that the college football 717 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 3: playoff first round games happen this weekend. 718 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 4: There's a lot of hype around that coach at Old Miss. Yeah, 719 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 4: and I don't know anything about the guy. 720 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 3: Well, we'll find out come Saturday. So that's happening college 721 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:39,919 Speaker 3: basketball weekend. Austin mentioned NFL Saturday and Sunday. A lot 722 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 3: going on. We'll dive into the weekend schedule as we 723 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 3: move on this week. For now, we'll come back after 724 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 3: this break. We'll put a bow on our number two. 725 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 3: We'll talk some UC football to kick off our number three. 726 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 3: On this the home of the Bengals ESPN fifteen to 727 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 3: thirty Cincinnati Sports station. 728 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: You've been listening to football in the NATI on ESPN fifteen, 729 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals. 730 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 5: WCKY, Cincinnati, and iHeartRadio station Gararan teed Human ESPN fifteen thirty. 731 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,800 Speaker 5: I heard radio from the X Time Cooling Weather Center. 732 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 4: Here's your forecast. 733 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 23: Finally, some relief from the bitter cold temperatures. Look for 734 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 23: temperatures to be above freezing today in admitted upper thirties 735 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 23: on the mostly sunny skies. We'll see clouds increasing later 736 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 23: on Tomorrow, Mild in the low mid forties, which is 737 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 23: seasonal four this. 738 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 4: Time of year. 739 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 23: Thursday warmer in the low fifties, but it'll come with 740 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 23: higher range chances. We'll have a few chances for the weekend. 741 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 23: And that's the forecast. I'm nine first one of meteorologists 742 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 23: kJ Jacobs. 743 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 2: This report is sponsored by indeed dot Com now on 744 00:40:51,440 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty. 745 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 3: Welcome back since e three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati 746 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:11,839 Speaker 3: Sports Station, and a service of our friends at Cincy Shirts. 747 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 3: They are now past austin the deadline at Cinci Shirts 748 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 3: to get your holiday gifts shipped to a arride before Christmas. 749 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 3: But you could still go into any of the two 750 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 3: retail locations and whether it's there you need to have 751 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 3: printed up right there, they can do it. And you 752 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 3: could still make a dent in that holiday shopping list 753 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 3: that I'm sure many still have. What's your holiday shopping 754 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 3: list look like? Are you done every other? 755 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 10: No? 756 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 4: I got to get they don't really count. But I 757 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 4: got to get a couple of gift cards. Okay, I don't, 758 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 4: but everything else is done. Card guy, huh No, Only 759 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 4: I don't know how to explain it. But there are 760 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 4: certain people that you know, do things for me throughout 761 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 4: the year that I want to give them something, and 762 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 4: a gift card I think is the best way to 763 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 4: like repay them for what they've done for me, if 764 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 4: that makes any sense whatsoever. But yeah, I got to 765 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 4: get like two of those, But everything else is done. 766 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 4: I just I went to the post office yesterday and 767 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 4: shipped out a box. Are you a rapping of presents? Yeah? 768 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 4: I love to wrap. I sat down last night a 769 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 4: couple to do tonight. 770 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 3: I think I sat down last night for I think 771 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 3: like ten minutes. And normally, like my wife wraps the 772 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 3: kids stuff, I wrap her stuff. We just kind of 773 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 3: do it on our own. I sat down and wrapped 774 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 3: two presents in front of her last night, and you 775 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,839 Speaker 3: would have thought I did fifteen things wrong. The way 776 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,320 Speaker 3: I cut the paper, the way I folded the paper, 777 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,800 Speaker 3: the way I stuck on the h the little sticker 778 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 3: there for who it's two? Sure, it was not an 779 00:42:54,640 --> 00:43:00,840 Speaker 3: enjoyable experience. I think, you know, I'm not perfect presence. 780 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 3: I'm never like all that good at it. By the 781 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,319 Speaker 3: time I get to like the third or the fourth one, 782 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 3: I got it down, but then I don't do it 783 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 3: again for a year, so I forget how to do it. 784 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 3: I still still like I cut paper that I could buy. 785 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,840 Speaker 3: That to me is cutting the paper. 786 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:20,879 Speaker 4: I like the imperfections in wrapping a present. I think 787 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 4: that that's you know, I'm guilty of using too much tape. 788 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,799 Speaker 4: I do that too. I use too much tape. Well, 789 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 4: when you don't do the folds and everything correctly, you 790 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:31,799 Speaker 4: it's everywhere. And I do. 791 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,280 Speaker 3: I wish I could get like pre cut, normal sized 792 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 3: box wrapping paper that's already done. Sure, I think cutting 793 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:39,919 Speaker 3: the wrapping paper is the worst part. 794 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 4: I don't. I don't think about that at all. I 795 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 4: think that's the easiest part. I dislike it. But it's 796 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 4: not difficult. No, it's just it's just awkward for you. 797 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,360 Speaker 4: It's awkward, yeah, but it shouldn't be. You've got long. 798 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,720 Speaker 3: Arm cutting it. Does it get snagged? Are you cutting 799 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:55,760 Speaker 3: in a straight line? 800 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 4: Do you not have the wrapping paper with the grid 801 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 4: lines on it? Yeah? So do you? Or do you not? 802 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 4: I do? I'm just not great at it. I'm just 803 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 4: not great. I wonder it was six for twelve. You 804 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 4: can't line that up a couple of drops. How are 805 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 4: you expected to hit some? 806 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 3: Well, it depends you know. What are you cutting with 807 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 3: the right hand cutting with the left hand? You're snagging anything. 808 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,719 Speaker 3: There's a lot that goes into this. What did you 809 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 3: ask for for Christmas? That's a good question. I asked, Uh, 810 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 3: I asked for a PlayStation. I won't get that. 811 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 24: What are you gonna what are you going to have 812 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 24: time for that? That's that's what you want to join 813 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 24: my Madden Listen. As soon as I asked for the PlayStation, 814 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 24: that's what I was told. When do you get have 815 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 24: time to play anything? So that got shot down. 816 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 3: There was a point I thought, you if you've seen 817 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 3: those like glasses that like they're not prescription, but you 818 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 3: wear them and they can like video stuff or you 819 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 3: can ask the glasses stuff. 820 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,479 Speaker 4: Yeah. Our our coworker, Tray wears them all the time. 821 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 4: He takes pictures of me. 822 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 3: I wanted to do that, and then she said the 823 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,880 Speaker 3: same thing. You'll never use that. You would get a 824 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 3: lot of fun out of that, yeah something. Well, then 825 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 3: don't ask me what I want. Yeah, then just get 826 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,360 Speaker 3: me gift cards. If you have no intention of yeah, 827 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 3: getting me what I want? Why would you ask. 828 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 4: Give me a gift card. Have you seen like those 829 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 4: Aura ring things? Yeah? I thought about that. Maybe you 830 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:20,280 Speaker 4: can pay for those with your hsags, you know really? Yeah, Okay, 831 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,759 Speaker 4: I didn't know that. They're expensive as hell, but you 832 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 4: can from my understanding with if you have an HSA, 833 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 4: you can pay for him with the HSA. 834 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 3: Well, we need to get to a break. I need 835 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 3: to look this up. Scott Sanderfield what he had to 836 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 3: say yesterday? 837 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 4: He has a ring. Well we'll hear from that data. 838 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 3: We'll hear from Scott Saderfield will also take some phone 839 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,279 Speaker 3: calls in hour number three as well. Five one, three, seven, 840 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,840 Speaker 3: four nine, fifteen thirty. This is Sincy three to sixty 841 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 3: thanks to Penn State or not Pennstation. Yeah that's coming 842 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,840 Speaker 3: back thanks to Cincy Sharts on ESPN, fifteen thirty