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Speaker 1: Past I'm common, He's tend to be the legendary. Brian

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Speaker 1: Oak will join us at one or so for another

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Speaker 1: edition of rock Talk and Tennabee. Do we have a

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Speaker 1: Mark Rosen just before two.

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Speaker 3: However, right now it's time for five to three four

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Speaker 3: time now four.

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Speaker 4: Five questions, Well, actually three, but five sounds like more

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Speaker 4: than four. Question number one.

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Speaker 5: It's now time to take an in depth look at

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Speaker 5: the welfare of the Wolves.

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Speaker 2: ESPN dot Com put together there NBA power Ranking.

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Speaker 2: With it, they had each team's biggest weakness. They have

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Speaker 2: the Wolves rank number nine.

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Speaker 3: I would say efferd.

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Speaker 2: And for their biggest weakness. They say it's defense without Gobert.

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Speaker 2: Here's what they wrote, Rudy Gobert may not quite be

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Speaker 2: the dominant force he once was, but he's still a

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Speaker 2: he's not involved. When Gobert plays, Minnesota has a one

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Speaker 2: to eight point six defensive rating, better than any team

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Speaker 2: but the league leading Thunder. But when he's off the court,

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Speaker 2: Minnesota falls to a one eighteen point three defensive rating,

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Speaker 1: No, I think the biggest weakness is a lack of effort.

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Speaker 1: That's the biggest weakness. And then which coincide's defense correct,

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Speaker 3: Harlem Globe Trotters.

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Speaker 1: They actually wanted to try to win a world championship,

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Speaker 1: My guess is they put a defensive effort in each

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Speaker 1: So yeah, defenses probably on is probably the number one

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Speaker 3: But most of it is effort.

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Speaker 1: You just try really hard deny the other players the

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Speaker 4: the trenches.

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Speaker 2: Trenches nfl dot Com put together their top eight MBP

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Speaker 2: candidates Entry VP candidate entering week fifteen. They have Matthew

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Speaker 2: Stafford at number one, Drake May at number two, Josh

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Speaker 2: Allen at three, Jordan Love at four, the Vikings opponent

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Speaker 2: Common do you agree with those eight and in that order?

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Speaker 2: Where's Jamior Gibbs not on there?

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Speaker 1: Why he's more valuable to that team than any of

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Speaker 1: So that's what he's really good at is next level.

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Speaker 1: That's he's that next level kind of that's like chess.

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Speaker 3: I'm always as much as I like why, I mean,

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Speaker 1: You know, it's it's you know, they kind of go

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Speaker 3: I would I would say, Stafford, how about you? Do

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Speaker 2: I look at this list, and I have a hard

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Speaker 2: I think there's a big drop off and Stafford, Drake

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Speaker 3: In the trenches.

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Speaker 2: Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts had five turnovers day versus the Chargers,

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Speaker 2: The Whip in Philadelphia to address fans calling for Hurts

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Speaker 2: to be benched. Here's what Sirianni you responded with, quote,

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Speaker 2: we have a chance to win the game. That's something

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Speaker 3: Who's the backup? My first question?

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Speaker 2: They have a big drop. Well, Sam Howell is one

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Speaker 1: I don't pay his close attention to Philly footballs. I

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Speaker 3: But sort of a lot of other quarterbacks. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: you're not going to go it win a big game.

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Speaker 3: I gave you a little bit of yeah, Grace, and.

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna Beneham because, like you said, they don't

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Speaker 1: they had Phil Rivers, then I might think about it.

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Speaker 3: But they don't have phil Ate Max brozmerg JJ McCarthy bat.

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Speaker 1: As we go to Bray, we had a You're the

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Speaker 1: We have we have a couple of rock and roll desthholes.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do rock Talk, a rock rank inside Rock Talk.

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Speaker 1: But one last thing about that book, just quickly, and

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Speaker 5: See, that's brilliant right now, And now I want to

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Speaker 3: Be so cool.

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Speaker 1: And then they and they would pretend they're ripping open

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Speaker 1: just say, you know, Jonathan, Jonathan.

440
00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,480
Speaker 3: Grenard Paul, it's just a brilliant, brilliant.

441
00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 5: That's pretty good. Okay, the second best time of the year.

442
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,199
Speaker 5: But I really do get into it. And I like

443
00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,119
Speaker 5: the snow. That's why I drive a truck, and you know,

444
00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 5: I like the snow and this time of year, and

445
00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,320
Speaker 5: I love holiday music. My collection of holiday music is

446
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,359
Speaker 5: getting unwieldy. It's great, it's fun.

447
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Melt Tormet and Eadie Gourmet sleigh.

448
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 3: Ride maybe my favorite.

449
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,159
Speaker 1: When we were when I was a kid, my parents had,

450
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,359
Speaker 1: you know, the phonograph and they bought you know, and

451
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 1: like I think the sponsor was good Year Tire.

452
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,479
Speaker 3: The albums were actually sponsored. Oh yeah, yeah. But I've

453
00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,160
Speaker 3: got a couple of Campbell's sue I think right, And.

454
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,199
Speaker 1: It was it was different artists of that, you know,

455
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 1: that era that you know, fifties, sixties, yep, doing Christmas

456
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 1: songs and one of the Steve Lawrence and Edie Gourmett

457
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 1: doing sleigh ride. You know there were a couple, Yeah,

458
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 1: very legendary, very successful, and they're laughing and there the

459
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,160
Speaker 1: snow is falling and friends like we used to play

460
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:21,640
Speaker 1: that over over in the Christmas season.

461
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,120
Speaker 5: I love Christmas music so much that even a soulless

462
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:29,160
Speaker 5: ghoul that like Robert Goulay, he has a Christmas album

463
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 5: that I absolutely love and I put on every Yearol

464
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,160
Speaker 5: what he just he's sort of vapid and there's nothing there.

465
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,119
Speaker 5: I mean, he was just one of those old school

466
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 5: crooners that he's just considered very cheesy, like a Pat

467
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,680
Speaker 5: Boon of the crooner said, just real milk toe, had deep,

468
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,479
Speaker 5: rich voice, but always kind of corny. In fact, if

469
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 5: anybody's never seen Will Ferrell doing his Robert Goulay on

470
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 5: sn L during his run, there, that is peak Will

471
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 5: Ferrell And absolutely who Robert Goolay was sixty until it

472
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 5: starts to get weird.

473
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 3: But my point being this time a year, I love

474
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 3: all of it.

475
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,160
Speaker 5: I love the Carpenter's Christmas album is in my top

476
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 5: ten Christmas albums of all time. But there's great stuff

477
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 5: Bing Crosby, you know, Ray Charles pick him there's a

478
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 5: zillion great, great Christmas record.

479
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 3: I don't mind Andy Williams again Christmas. I don't want

480
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 3: to hear him the rest of the year.

481
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:21,400
Speaker 5: But it's the Holidays season that I could listen to well,

482
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 5: I do every Christmas, Every Christmas.

483
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 1: You are the the grim Reaper of the Grum, the

484
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 1: grum Reaper, the grum Reaper. This story broke shortly after

485
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 1: we wrapped up Rock Talk last week. Steve Cropper, legendary

486
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 1: guitars for Booker t and the MG's Otis Redding and

487
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 1: the Blues Brothers, dies at the age of eighty four.

488
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:44,400
Speaker 1: Steve Cropper, your thoughts.

489
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 5: Steve Cropper is as important to the legacy of American music,

490
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 5: especially like lifer studio musicians, as any other single figure

491
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 5: that you can point out. He you know, we've heard

492
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 5: of the Swampers and the Wrecking and all of these

493
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 5: sort of legendary house bands. Right Stax Record out of

494
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 5: Stacks Records out of Memphis, Tennessee created if it wasn't Motown,

495
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 5: it was on Stacks. They were a huge part of

496
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 5: the American R and B and soul story and Cropper,

497
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,439
Speaker 5: white guy guitar player, played on I promise you that

498
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 5: every single person hearing our voice right now has heard

499
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 5: his guitar playing and likely what the sounds that come

500
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 5: out of his mouth make. I've got a super fun fact.

501
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 5: How big a deal is Steve Cropper. We're all familiar

502
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 5: with Otis Redding sitting on the dock of the bank.

503
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 5: Not only does he play guitar on that track because

504
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 5: he was the house band. He was in the house band.

505
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 5: He co wrote that song with Otis and the whistling

506
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 5: you hear is Steve Cropper, That's correct. So I mean,

507
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 5: this guy was there for these key, incredible moments throughout

508
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 5: a really influential period of American music. You know, a

509
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 5: place where you wouldn't expect to necessarily find a white guy,

510
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 5: especially in the fifties and sixties, But there he was

511
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,719
Speaker 5: alongside some of the all time greats and just some

512
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,239
Speaker 5: of the other people in stacks that he played on

513
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 5: their records. The list is incredible. Albert King, Booker t

514
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 5: and the mgs. As you mentioned, Eddie Floyd who did

515
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 5: the original knock on Wood. Isaac Hayes, Yeah, kids, the

516
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 5: same Isaac Hayes from the early days of South Park,

517
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 5: Mabel John, Little Milton Melvin Van Peebles and in the

518
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 5: modern era, Nathaniel Rayliff in The Night Sweats. They're on

519
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 5: Stack Records, but otis Redding Rufus Thomas. This was a

520
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 5: really important part of the American story and Steve Krobert

521
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:37,239
Speaker 5: Cropper's guitar playing and fingerprints and ideology are all over it.

522
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: And then he sort of not that he had a renaissance,

523
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 1: but he really came.

524
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 3: He became more of a household name when he appeared.

525
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,919
Speaker 1: With Dan Ackroyd in John Belushi in the Blues Brothers,

526
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: and he did all the guitar work on Briefcase Full

527
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: of Blues, a highly successful album and movie yep. And

528
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: he was Steve Cruppert and Duc Dunn the bass player

529
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 1: who passed away at the not long ago as well.

530
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 3: It wasn't too long ago. Yeah, I know. Both legendary.

531
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 5: And there's a reason that Cropper was invited to be

532
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 5: in the Blues Brother's band because Dan Aykroy's love of

533
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 5: old blues and old soul has obviously been evidenced for

534
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 5: many years. It's why the Blues Brothers happened, why he

535
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 5: put it together, and so when it came time to

536
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 5: do a major motion picture and to have a proper

537
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 5: band that would tour and do these things. He hand

538
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 5: picked this incredible Blues Brother's band, including Steve Cropper. And

539
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 5: because that movie and the legacy of the Blues Brothers

540
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,360
Speaker 5: is so associated with Chicago, there are many Chicagoans who

541
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 5: take very very serious ownership over the legacy of Cropper,

542
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 5: even though he did most of his groundbreaking and groundwork

543
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 5: in Memphis, Tennessee, but no much beloved and important part

544
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 5: of the American story of popular music, and just one

545
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 5: of the guitar players that, even if you couldn't pick

546
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 5: out an individual lick, everybody.

547
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 3: Has heard the work of Steve Cropper.

548
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 1: Well, I wish I took better notes because in one

549
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 1: of the many stories I read about him and the

550
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: people you know.

551
00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 3: The odes out him. Yeah, somebody called him.

552
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: One of the top three guitar players of all time.

553
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 3: That's how good he was.

554
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 5: And that person probably would be in a better position

555
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 5: to know than you and I. But you don't get

556
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 5: to be the house guitarist, the main guitarist in the

557
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 5: house band of a massive label like Stax was in

558
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 5: the sixties, without being absolutely and the great thing about

559
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 5: those like you know Carol Kay. Just all these different

560
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 5: people you hear about, they can sit down and play

561
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 5: anything and not just you know, kind of bumble their

562
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 5: way through it. They can sit down and make it

563
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 5: sound like they've been playing that their whole life, like

564
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 5: a master work. So, you know, I don't know how

565
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 5: you would rank that sort of thing, but I'm not

566
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 5: at all surprised to hear that he was held in

567
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 5: that high regard, because you don't get to have that legacy,

568
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 5: you don't get to take part in that part of

569
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 5: American musical history without being genuinely amazing.

570
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 3: Well, Variety wrote.

571
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: Cropper was best known to the public for his distinctive

572
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 1: economical lead slash rhythm work and the hit making interracial

573
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: instrumental commbo Booker t and the Mgs's playing also fired

574
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 1: dozens of Truro Whitchy producer injury with Stax Records, as

575
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: you mentioned for the Otis writing and Wilson Pickett, Sam

576
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 1: and Dave Rufus and Carla Thomas and Eddie Floyd. I mean,

577
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: the names just go on and on and on. It's

578
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 1: like those house bands that you talk about. You talk

579
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: about the Wrecking Crew and all these people they played

580
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: for everything Larry Carlton played for He's played on almost

581
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: everything you've ever heard.

582
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 3: But as far as Larry Carlton.

583
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,239
Speaker 1: You know, the solo artist of his own right, he

584
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: I'm sure he has albums, but it's not like the

585
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: work that they've done with you know, household names.

586
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 5: Well, that's not his lasting legacy he got to do.

587
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 5: You know, they get to do those kind of side

588
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 5: projects or other sort of vanity projects for lack of

589
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 5: a less insulting term. They get to do those because

590
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 5: of the legacy they've built around doing what they do.

591
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 5: Looks everybody's good at something, right, and if you are

592
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 5: the guy who can pick up the guitar and fit

593
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 5: in with any combo at the highest level, then that's

594
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 5: who you are, and then there's no shame in that.

595
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 3: This was in nineteen ninety six.

596
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 1: Here I found the quote in nineteen ninety six British

597
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 1: music monthly Mojo.

598
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 3: We're all familiar with Mojo.

599
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 1: I am familiar with the Mojo, but Yeah named him

600
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 1: the second greatest guitarist of all time behind Jimmy Hendrix.

601
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 3: Wow.

602
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: The publication said, Cropper puts everything he's got, which is

603
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 1: considerable at the disposal of the artists in the song metronome,

604
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: crisp timing, deadly accurate chops, earth moving bottom line riffs, sharp,

605
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: nasty little licks and grace notes. His solos never outstay

606
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: their welcome or leavey wanting less.

607
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 5: You know, that's a person who obviously writes about music

608
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 5: for a living, because I couldn't put it that well.

609
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 5: But it speaks to the fact that if you're going

610
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 5: to be one of these gunslingers, one of these studio aces,

611
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 5: that you have to be good at everything, and you

612
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 5: have to be adaptable, and you have to serve both

613
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 5: the song and the artist who has come in with

614
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 5: that song. Your job is to make it amazing. And

615
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 5: he clearly did that dozens, if not hundreds, hundreds hundreds

616
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 5: of times.

617
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 3: How about you.

618
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: Said there was another grim Reaper report and I had

619
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: not heard of this person or the.

620
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 5: Group, anybody who's not really into Americana or this particular

621
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 5: wing of country.

622
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 3: This is going to be a brand new name to you.

623
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 5: But there are people out there, including the Grammys and

624
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 5: the music establishment. A band called the Mavericks has been

625
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 5: crafting this special homegrown mix of Americana and country for many,

626
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 5: many decades and the main guy behind the universally loved

627
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 5: and revered and admired. Raul Malo died last week at

628
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 5: the age of sixty, taken too early by colon cancer,

629
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 5: but he among the music community is revered as one

630
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 5: of the great American songwriters of the last fifty years,

631
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 5: certainly one of the great players. In fact, the night

632
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 5: that he was in the hospital and about to lose

633
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 5: his life, it was his whole family was in town

634
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 5: in Nashville. He was supposed to be at the Ryeman

635
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 5: for two nights because there was a two night long

636
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 5: celebration of all this country music and Americana glitterati there

637
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 5: to pay tribute to him specifically, And of course he

638
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 5: goes into the hospital and he can't make it to

639
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 5: either of them. But his band, the Mavericks, after the

640
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 5: second one, went to his hospital room and played in

641
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 5: one final concert before he passed. But this guy's a

642
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 5: big enough deal in the country music world that he

643
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 5: he was having a two night tribute to him and

644
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 5: his music and his legacy at the Rhyman, which is

645
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 5: the you know, the Vatican of country music in this country.

646
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 5: And so yeah, raal ma Allo gone too early. And

647
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 5: if people are ever in the mood for that kind

648
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 5: of cool, mellow American country music. I would absolutely recommend

649
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 5: checking out the Mavericks.

650
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 3: Without further ado. Tennaby, it's time for rock right rock

651
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 3: right rock rock whink rock rock rank. Here's going to

652
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 3: be releasing it rock rock rank. He really gets into

653
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 3: the lock. Well, he knows how to punch on.

654
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, he knows how to like you say, exclamation

655
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: market there. Huh what are we doing for rock?

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Speaker 2: This one took a little bit of an explanation. Uh,

657
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Speaker 2: but I seem I think Oaks seemed to figure out

658
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Speaker 2: what I wanted to help immediately.

659
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 3: I know exactly what you want.

660
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:03,959
Speaker 2: I want Bryano top five favorite artists or bands that

661
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 2: you would hear on like a city's sampler if you

662
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 2: know the city sampler was back in the day, Okay, now,

663
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 2: kind of like that singer songwriter acoustic that kind of.

664
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Speaker 5: Sound so real. Quick elevator speech for people who don't

665
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 5: know what the sampler is. Cities ninety seven, for more

666
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 5: than twenty five years, put out a year at an

667
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 5: end of our year, pardon me, end of year CD

668
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 5: that was an amalgamation of the music who represented the

669
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 5: station that year. In its earliest days, it was just

670
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 5: licensing songs by artists that had that the station played.

671
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 5: But as it moved on and studio c became a

672
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 5: bigger thing and more and more artists came by to play.

673
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 5: We would collect these studio see performances and at the

674
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 5: end of the year kind of it would be a

675
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 5: combination of our wish list and what we were able

676
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 5: to get the licensing rights to to be able to

677
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 5: put together this CD. It would go on sale at

678
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 5: area Target stores. It would sell out that day thirty

679
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 5: thousand copies. There was never enough to go around. We

680
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 5: couldn't make more than that because we were asking the

681
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 5: artists and the labels to give up their rights to

682
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 5: these songs to raise money for charity. But it raised

683
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 5: tens of millions of dollars over the years. So I

684
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 5: was very, very fortunate for the bulk of the second

685
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 5: half of the City Sampler Run to be in studio

686
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 5: See when all these artists came through. So I have

687
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 5: a very unique perspective because not only did I get

688
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 5: to sit five feet away from truly great artists, major

689
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,479
Speaker 5: names too, but pack their brains apart well, and we'll

690
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 5: get to those too. So I'm picking my favorite five

691
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 5: who have come through and ended up on the sampler

692
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 5: with their studio see performances. But this is leaving out

693
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 5: dozens of incredible artists who appeared on multiple samplers, but

694
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 5: coming in at number five. While a lot of people

695
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 5: may laugh at or dismiss their music, they were in studio.

696
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 5: See in my tenure at Cities, which was almost twenty

697
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 5: years Archiees Nope, they never came in. I would have

698
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 5: welcomed them with open arms, but no. The San Francisco

699
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 5: band Train, Oh now, Train were some of the nicest

700
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 5: people I've ever met. They knew how to studio see

701
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 5: whether it was us just sitting down doing a private

702
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 5: interview or there was a packed house there. This is

703
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 5: a group that knows how to perform in thatronment. Yes

704
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 5: they can play in huge theaters, but they could command

705
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 5: a small room like that. They were super funny, they

706
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 5: were super poignant, and they ended up on a lot

707
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 5: of different samplers because they were essentially for a brief time,

708
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 5: the house band basically of Cities ninety seven.

709
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Speaker 3: What's their biggest songs? I know, I know one.

710
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 5: Oh, there's a ton of them, drops of Jupiter was

711
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 5: their first sort of first big coming out party they've had.

712
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 5: Soul Sister, ain't the mister mister I don't know about.

713
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 5: But there's again, I always kind of even so I

714
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 5: got to know Pat over the years, the lead singer,

715
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 5: and I always kind of poked fun and him, like,

716
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 5: you know, your lyrics are pretty oblique, man, you're not

717
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 5: really saying anything, and you know, he kind of well, seriously,

718
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 5: He's like, why would I let an important story plot

719
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 5: or plot development get in the way of a good rhyme?

720
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 3: And I'm like, that's exactly I'm saying. He had a

721
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 3: lot of google him well.

722
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean like, hay, Soul Sister, I

723
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 5: ain't that mister mister on the radio stereo the way

724
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Speaker 5: you are, you know, and just yeah, okay, So.

725
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 3: Anyway, but they were great taffery.

726
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 5: They well exactly, and they were good at what they did,

727
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 5: and they made my number five spot.

728
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: How about a soap impression of his wife which he

729
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: ate and donated.

730
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 5: To Okay, not quite that oblique, Okay, I don't think

731
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 5: they were quite as acid addled at that point as

732
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 5: a certain mister Lennon Number four. Number four is hometown

733
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 5: flavor Semi Sonic. They rose from the ashes of the

734
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 5: former band Trip Shakespeare. They would go on to Time

735
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 5: They Do Right, and they would go on and a

736
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 5: bunch of other great songs, but that was the big one,

737
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 5: and they'd go on to dizzying heights of success. And

738
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 5: Dan Wilson of course has moved on to you know,

739
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 5: writing and collaborating and producing, co writing with the likes

740
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 5: of Adele you know, I mean, so he's done well

741
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 5: with the six exactly the Chicks, and so Semi signed

742
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 5: many others. Semi Sonic though at the time they were

743
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 5: the biggest thing going in terms of Minnesota music.

744
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 3: And yeah, they had a string of hits.

745
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 5: They were bought through the studio a number of times,

746
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 5: and they appeared on a few samplers as well. So

747
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 5: they came in at number four for me because I

748
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 5: still to this day go back a Great Divide, their

749
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 5: debut full length record. I would put up there against

750
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 5: just about any other Minnesota Babe album.

751
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 3: I love it so much.

752
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 5: If you like pop music like that, rock pop music, Yeah,

753
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 5: Great Divide is about as good an album as I've

754
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 5: ever heard come out of Minnesota. Number three, number three.

755
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 5: This is a very personal one to me. She came

756
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 5: through Studio See three total times, and every time I

757
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 5: was more enamored of her than the time before. She

758
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 5: was incredible, she was warm, she was wonderful. I'd always

759
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 5: been a fan of her music long before i'd met her,

760
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 5: and then even more so after having met her. She

761
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 5: appears on a few of the samplers and just really,

762
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 5: I I'm going to be honest, a little crushed out

763
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 5: on her and to this day still am. And that

764
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 5: would be none other than Canadian Sarah maclachlin.

765
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 3: Oh, Sarah McLachlin.

766
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 5: Seriously, dude, crushed out the whole time. I couldn't believe.

767
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 5: I was sitting there talking to her. Remember we had

768
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 5: the green room right there. So she comes in and

769
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 5: there's this isn't gonna be one for an audience. She's

770
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 5: just coming in to do a performance on an interview,

771
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 5: and there was a green room with a mispa in there.

772
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 5: I showed her the green room. I'm like, after we

773
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 5: set up everything, we'll get we'll get it going and

774
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 5: I'll come back and.

775
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 3: Grab you in about five or ten.

776
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 5: So I go back and she's playing Miss pac Man

777
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 5: and she's killing it and she's not even looking up

778
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 5: at me. She's focused, she is locked in, and she

779
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 5: I'm like, all right, anytime you're ready.

780
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 3: Cool.

781
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 5: And so I go back and I'm hanging out with

782
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,720
Speaker 5: our engineer Brian Thomas, and you know, five ten minutes

783
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 5: and I'm like, she didn't have a handler there or anything.

784
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 5: So I just went back again, still playing Miss pac Man,

785
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 5: and I'm like, She's like, I'll be right there, and

786
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 5: she wasn't. It was about an I mean, it was

787
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 5: probably a total of twenty minutes. But when she walked

788
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 5: out of that green room and then blew us all

789
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 5: away with her incredible, intimate, warm performance, we went back

790
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 5: to find out that she had set the high score

791
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 5: on Miss pac Man that stayed there for the next

792
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 5: four years.

793
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 3: And that is how I met your mother exactly.

794
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 5: Oh so again, how do you not crush out on

795
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,919
Speaker 5: one of the great female singer songwriters of our time

796
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 5: who also can absolutely own a Miss pac Man machine.

797
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 3: That's my Number three is sarao Deduce number two.

798
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 5: These are two of the biggest artists we ever had

799
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 5: in studio. See these top two And this one probably

800
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 5: the most poignant for me because she came through a

801
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 5: few times, and whether it was in studio see and

802
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 5: ultimately on the sampler, or I was going to see

803
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 5: her at the State Theater, or the number of different

804
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 5: places I've seen her. I've never seen her once live

805
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 5: and not cried. I cried every single time she was

806
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 5: in studio. See pop music is that powerful. Her voice

807
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 5: is such an instrument that can be used.

808
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 3: For the softest.

809
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 5: The Indigo Girls, Nope, it killed me not to put

810
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 5: them on this list, by the way, because they are

811
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 5: awesome no matter what anyone says. But I'm talking about

812
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 5: Brandy Carlyle. Brandy Carlyle's voice, her songwriting skill, her overall

813
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 5: attitude towards life, and her ascendancy. Despite her being sort

814
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 5: of a nonconformist and sort of left field in the

815
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 5: songwriting community compared to the national norms, She's made her

816
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 5: way in both in country and in pop music. She

817
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 5: is is an incredible force and we got heart exactly

818
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 5: the right time. She came through a few different times

819
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 5: before she really hit it big, and she was just

820
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 5: always wonderful. But again, to be in the presence of

821
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 5: her music live is one of the great privileges of

822
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 5: my thirty years in radio.

823
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 3: She was incredible Numero Uno number one. You might be

824
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 3: able to guess this one. I don't know.

825
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 5: My boss at Cities for most of my time there

826
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 5: a woman by the name of Lauren MacLeish. Single best

827
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 5: boss I've ever had in my life, the greatest inspirational,

828
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 5: protected us from corporate nonsense. I just I've never worked

829
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 5: for anybody with her abilities or her vision. She was

830
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 5: wondrous and she's the reason the sampler became such a

831
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 5: big deal in the first place.

832
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 3: Adele Adele came in to.

833
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 5: Studio CE on two different occasions, and it was one thing.

834
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 5: It was a coup because she was just starting to

835
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 5: blow up here, already a superstar in the UK. It

836
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 5: was a coup to get her in. But then it

837
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 5: was the hardest work I've ever seen. Behind the scenes

838
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 5: was my boss Lauren, trying to get the license and

839
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 5: it was down to the last second. There were different

840
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 5: mixes of the final mix of the sampler in case

841
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 5: we couldn't get it.

842
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 3: At the zero hour.

843
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 5: We got the approval and Adele appeared on the City's

844
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 5: ninety seven sampler with a track she'd recorded in studio

845
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 5: See I remained. It a huge coup and again it

846
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 5: was right at the beginning of when she would become

847
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 5: for the next ten years eight years at least, the

848
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 5: biggest artist on planet Earth.

849
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 3: And did she talk like this, oh very much?

850
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 5: Even more make that accent a little more cartoonish and

851
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 5: you've got it there.

852
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, she was quiet first time.

853
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 5: Through a little dowdy, real reserve, very kind of sing

854
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 5: songy British accent, working class British accent, and then all

855
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 5: of a sudden the voice would open up and again

856
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,479
Speaker 5: you knew you were in the presence of great boys.

857
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 3: What was her the second time she came back?

858
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: Was that after seventeen twenty one, thirty five, forty eight?

859
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 3: And didn't she name her album's number right? Was after

860
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 3: sixty seven? After six seven? Yeah, sixty seven. I always

861
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 3: loved that one.

862
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: Always good to see you, Great to see you too,

863
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: and thanks for coming in again, and then you'll be

864
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:57,919
Speaker 1: back next Wenesday for rock talking again.

865
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 5: If people watch a podcast, yeah, it's The Brian Oakshow podcast.

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00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 5: Five hundred and thirty plus episodes available out there and

867
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Speaker 5: you can get it through the free iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 1: They warm this weekend frigid temperatures. Will see you next Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: We'll take a break, come back.

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Speaker 3: That's rock Talk Up Next. S Mark Rosener on the

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Speaker 3: fan