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Speaker 2: Welcome back. We're rolling along here the third hour on

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Speaker 2: the Thursday edition of SINCY three to sixty. We thank

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Speaker 2: Let's get caught up on the injury front. Right now

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Speaker 2: we get a chance to talk to our good friend

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Speaker 2: Bob Manjean today from the University of Cincinnati and Nova Care.

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Speaker 2: He joins us right now. Hi, Bob, how are.

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Speaker 1: You, Tony. It's great down here at dear kat Land

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Speaker 1: getting ready for another game tomorrow night. You know we've

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Speaker 1: got one under our belts, and you know it's time

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Speaker 2: Sneaky sneaky, good slate coming up for the Cincinnati Bearcats.

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Speaker 2: The Dayton Flyers come in next week the following week,

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Speaker 2: and Heritage Bank Arena Louisville, the eleventh ranked team in

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Speaker 2: the country. It's a big time right now for uce basketball.

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Speaker 2: A good start to the season. What I want to

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Speaker 2: discuss with you, Bob, as it pertains to basketball, as

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Speaker 2: school or college, wherever you're playing basketball. As the season switch.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the wrist because we saw this pop

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Speaker 2: up on Opening Night with Sincere Harris and we're not

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Speaker 1: Rest Well, I think he saw it even at a

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Speaker 1: So for example, you know when you go into basketball,

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Speaker 1: But two also the falls you take when you're falling.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean you're asking a fifty three year old

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Speaker 1: And that means that you're sitting there with your your doctors,

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Speaker 2: That is Bob Manjean from the University of Cincinnati and Novercare. Bob,

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Speaker 2: Bob Manjean, University of Cincinnati, Novercare, Bob, you're the best man.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time, and have a

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Speaker 2: I've never been invited, Bob, this is your invite.

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, Bob was nowhere to be found. Wow, Arena,

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Speaker 2: how about that? How about that? More to go? Next?

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