Speaker 1: Good morning, Welcome to the Big Outdoors News Radio seven
Speaker 1: hundred WL Cincinnati Chippard.
Speaker 2: And damn the new years here.
Speaker 1: And Danny, this is year number thirty one for me.
Speaker 1: Okay as of like last Saturday morning. So how loujah.
Speaker 1: But you know, life goes on and you've made it
Speaker 1: that long without going crazy. No, no, actually you know
Speaker 1: I made it that long without getting fired. Okay, management
Speaker 1: doesn't know my name a month. You know, here I
Speaker 1: am at Saturday morning. Who in the hell's up at
Speaker 1: five am?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know they do come and ask me the
Speaker 2: next day. Who was that guy with you?
Speaker 1: Oh you're lovely. Well, Happy new year everybody. Mitch Renfro,
Speaker 1: How in the world are you? It's called the Cincinnati
Speaker 1: Sports Boat and Travel Show and you're rolling back into town.
Speaker 2: When yeah, we're rolling back top.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me on, man, and we're excited. We're
Speaker 3: back in the new building. Will be the first ones
Speaker 3: in there for as far as the consumer trade show,
Speaker 3: and January twenty third is stickoff.
Speaker 2: That is excellent.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: We missed you last year.
Speaker 1: Everybody missed you, and like, what sixty eight years now?
Speaker 1: So telling yeah, it's the we we have the new
Speaker 1: renovated UH Cincinnati Convention Center. Duke Energy is no longer
Speaker 1: the naming rights sponsor, which is fine by me. We
Speaker 1: need to keep our electric rates low and but that's
Speaker 1: another story. Okay, So all right, so we're rolling back in.
Speaker 1: What can we expect because I'm sure there's been a
Speaker 1: lot of changes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's obviously after a year, and it's never ideal
Speaker 3: to be out like we were. We missed being there too,
Speaker 3: so we're super excited to be back, and you know,
Speaker 3: we've got a lot of great things coming in this year. Again,
Speaker 3: We've we've kept the RV component. The RVs will be
Speaker 3: back just like they were in UH twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: The boats, I mean, we've got a lot of new
Speaker 3: boat dealers that expanded into bigger spaces than before. Some
Speaker 3: boat lines are all going to be there, from pontoons,
Speaker 3: your wakeboard boats, your fiberglass, every single and fishing boats,
Speaker 3: everything's going.
Speaker 2: To be there.
Speaker 3: We've added a little bit more power sports this year.
Speaker 3: We've got you know, a couple of big power sports
Speaker 3: boosts that are going to be bringing side by sides, tractors,
Speaker 3: just a little bit.
Speaker 2: More variety there we get again, We're we.
Speaker 3: Love having things for the whole family. So we brought
Speaker 3: Wiggy the water skiing squirrel, the biggest celebrity in the
Speaker 3: boat show world.
Speaker 1: And it's still you know what, it's still squirrel hunting
Speaker 1: season two.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so it's.
Speaker 3: A little extra. Yeah that squirrels a little on the edge,
Speaker 3: you know this time of year.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah here, you know, yeah, and uh.
Speaker 3: We've got some dogs doing some frisbee tricks as well.
Speaker 3: You know, we also have the bird dog guys who
Speaker 3: like do Centro demonstrations.
Speaker 2: Troy Troy Thompson Yep, yep, yeah, Troy.
Speaker 3: Will be back this year. So you know, again this
Speaker 3: is adds value to the whole family. We've got a
Speaker 3: new area that we're going to call the Campfire Cafe,
Speaker 3: uh stage, where we're gonna have a lot of those
Speaker 3: things all going on. It's gonna be a fun area
Speaker 3: that we're gonna have kind of we're working with the
Speaker 3: caterine and the convention center to come up with some
Speaker 3: cool menus, craft beer, and just again just a cool
Speaker 3: spot where people can gather, take a load off after
Speaker 3: walking through the whole show and have some value for
Speaker 3: the whole family to watch a cool show. Are you
Speaker 3: on You're still on one floor? Yep, we're still on
Speaker 3: one floor. And we took up the whole, the whole.
Speaker 3: We're at A B and C, the whole. There isn't
Speaker 3: a single corner in that main floor that isn't something
Speaker 3: cool with good good.
Speaker 2: So are you sold out?
Speaker 3: Oh, we're sold out, baby. Like I said, every Milk
Speaker 3: and Cranny is going to have something that goes with
Speaker 3: the sports show.
Speaker 2: How many RVs do you think you're gonna have?
Speaker 3: You know, that depends on what they're bringing. I mean
Speaker 3: last year or twenty four they brought a lot of
Speaker 3: the diesel ushers. Oh okay, so they got like, what's
Speaker 3: great about it is they've got enough stays where you're
Speaker 3: going to see everything. Every class of camper there good.
Speaker 1: So it's a it's a nice variety and less not
Speaker 1: so much duplication because you know it's you know, the
Speaker 1: RV lots these days, they're huge, okay, but the weather's miserable.
Speaker 1: Who wants to look at r v's outside. Who wants
Speaker 1: to look at boats outside? For crying out loud? Besides,
Speaker 1: they're all shrink wrapped. So I mean this is an
Speaker 1: ideal sit that that is great. So you'll how many
Speaker 1: how many of the RV dealers are there.
Speaker 3: There's going to be three that are going to be
Speaker 3: bringing RVs, so Boot Compass, Holven's, which is a big one.
Speaker 3: This will be i think their first show ever.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're super excited about coming out this year.
Speaker 3: They're great guys. They've been really fun to work with
Speaker 3: and so we're I'm very excited to have them. United
Speaker 3: Motorsports is working on getting some of their campers up
Speaker 3: there as well. Okay, so we'll have, like, like you said,
Speaker 3: a great variety.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3: It's the worst time a year to go look at
Speaker 3: r v's outside and so why not just come on inside?
Speaker 2: They're all here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, i mean, let's face it, the camp you know,
Speaker 1: the gear out on a camp on a lot on
Speaker 1: RV light and it's cold out, the campers are cold,
Speaker 1: you know, so what a good place to go?
Speaker 2: How many boat dealers?
Speaker 3: Boat dealers and there's I'm at the whole floor covered
Speaker 3: with them.
Speaker 2: Okay, put me on the spot on how.
Speaker 3: It's over ten?
Speaker 1: All right, okay, go we can go get you on Facebook.
Speaker 1: And what's the website? Renfro Productions dot com.
Speaker 3: Right, yep, that or just Cincinnati Travel, Sports and boatshow
Speaker 3: dot com as well.
Speaker 1: All right, well, great to have you guys back in town.
Speaker 1: You kick butt and we'll catch up with you down
Speaker 1: the line, Mitch, and say hello to your dead.
Speaker 2: If you would. Sounds good, I will all right with that.
Speaker 1: We got to hit a break back with more Chip
Speaker 1: Hard's Big Outdoors News Radio seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: In a moment, they were back.
Speaker 1: The Big Outdoors News Radio seven hundred WW, Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: Mike Moore joins me.
Speaker 1: He is the i'd say you a conservative, buck breaking
Speaker 1: editor for the Ohio Outdoor News newspaper, the best paper
Speaker 1: this state has ever seen in its history. All the
Speaker 1: other ones have come and gone, and they all had
Speaker 1: good people, which Mike, you and I knew, you know,
Speaker 1: like Odie Snyder was an editor, Dan Armitage was an editor,
Speaker 1: Ohio Sportsman, and you know great lake fishermen, and you
Speaker 1: guys are still hanging.
Speaker 2: That's great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, twenty one year, Chip, and I thank you for
Speaker 4: the compliment. Thank you for the compliment, and yeah this
Speaker 4: is our twenty first year.
Speaker 2: Buddy.
Speaker 1: Well listen, hey, I really meant it, Otherwise I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have said it.
Speaker 2: Okay, I know that, I know that, I know you well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and so you guys, you know your your
Speaker 1: your first issue of the year is out and oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, your your Ohio Insider column inside front page
Speaker 1: with poaching column responses, Well, holy cow, what do you think?
Speaker 2: Huh?
Speaker 4: I knew it. I wrote about a couple of cases
Speaker 4: that the Divisional Wildlife prosecuted earlier in the fall, and
Speaker 4: man did they did? People come out of the woodwork
Speaker 4: to lend their opinion to that, which I love. I
Speaker 4: loved it. I knew it would get a good response,
Speaker 4: but like I said in that column, ship, it got more.
Speaker 4: I got more letters on that topic than anything we've
Speaker 4: ever done.
Speaker 1: And you know what, that doesn't surprise me, you know.
Speaker 1: And then of course that damn story that keeps having
Speaker 1: legs with what's his name from Wilmington. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't want to say his name, but it would have
Speaker 1: been the record white tail, you know. And people think,
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm sure you've heard this, Well it's
Speaker 1: our we're it's our right to poach. We mean, we
Speaker 1: might need to put food on the table. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: they're glorifying this guy for poaching what you know, probably
Speaker 1: was the biggest you know, typical buck ever taken in Ohio.
Speaker 2: And I was too kind two years ago.
Speaker 4: Yeah, why two years ago?
Speaker 2: Why does that keep coming up?
Speaker 4: I don't know, it's a it's a good question, Chip.
Speaker 4: And the real interesting thing about this is my column
Speaker 4: for the issue that's going out this week. Yeah, is
Speaker 4: touch touches on that because I'm talking about a guy
Speaker 4: who killed a big, non typical two twenty eight and
Speaker 4: he he's dealing with a lot of people saying he
Speaker 4: poached it. And my column, I say it's social media
Speaker 4: has gone crazy with this stuff. You know, every time
Speaker 4: somebody kills a big buck, it's illegal. It's at shot
Speaker 4: at night, they're trespassing. They did something wrong. And I
Speaker 4: talked to this guy. He was in Champagne County. He
Speaker 4: did not poach this buck. He shot it legally, been
Speaker 4: chasing it for a while, but he had to deal
Speaker 4: with all this rumor and indiendo, you know. So my
Speaker 4: column deals with that in the January sixteenth issue. And
Speaker 4: it's funny that you mentioned that, you know, Well.
Speaker 1: It's it's sometimes, you know, with all the social media
Speaker 1: out there. In god Ben, it's just overwhelming you know,
Speaker 1: but I mean those of us n't quote the news business. Okay,
Speaker 1: we got to follow this stuff. And Facebook is unfortunately
Speaker 1: where a lot of it is coming up. So you know,
Speaker 1: you got to pick and shoes and try and figure
Speaker 1: out what's real and what's fake.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you really do on a daily basis, yea, on
Speaker 4: social media. You know, we didn't deal with this ten
Speaker 4: fifteen years ago, but it's here today and it's here
Speaker 4: to stay.
Speaker 2: It's an hourly basis.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, absolutely.
Speaker 1: And and then the people that say, well, you know
Speaker 1: it's okay they needed to put food on the table. No,
Speaker 1: it's a crime. There's a difference between right and wrong.
Speaker 1: It's a law. It's illegal, okay. And I don't care
Speaker 1: what species or fish or game we're talking about. But
Speaker 1: you know what, well, just shut the hell up for
Speaker 1: crying out loud if you don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 4: Follow the rules, man, I mean, come on, everybody else
Speaker 4: has to follow the rules. It's just like anything else. Chip,
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, one bad apple spoils a whole bunch.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and you're gonna get caught.
Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, you know what, you are gonna get caught
Speaker 1: everybody gets caught.
Speaker 2: I don't care.
Speaker 4: Everybody gets caught, big buck. Oh they always get caught.
Speaker 2: Always. So how do you how.
Speaker 1: Do you feel about the uh, you know, about the
Speaker 1: fines that are being what you know, what the courts
Speaker 1: you're handing out, what the you know, the fines that
Speaker 1: are the restitution? Uh you think it's commensurate with uh,
Speaker 1: you know, with with with uh you know, with the
Speaker 1: animals that are being taken today.
Speaker 4: Chip And like I said in that column, I think
Speaker 4: there's a disconnect between the hunting hunting people and the public.
Speaker 4: There's a real disconnect there. And I know I don't
Speaker 4: think they are com measured with the crimes that are
Speaker 4: being committed. I think judges are too lenient on on poachers.
Speaker 4: They they're multiple times that people do this, They get
Speaker 4: caught multiple times, and that shouldn't happen. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: this should be stiff enough the first time where you're
Speaker 4: not going to do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh well, listen, hey, I do we'd be on the
Speaker 1: same page. You know, even if you weren't on the
Speaker 1: same page, I just don't have you on. Okay, Hey,
Speaker 1: Mike Moore, sit tight. We got to hit a short
Speaker 1: break we'll be back more to discuss some other topics
Speaker 1: and get his opinion on the Big Outdoors News Radio
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW Cincinnati. Back in the moment, and we're
Speaker 1: back to Big Outdoors News Radio, seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: Stick around.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a hell of a fun day at
Speaker 1: the Big One. I'm not going to go through the
Speaker 1: whole routine around here. But you got sports turbuls finding
Speaker 1: less to do these days, but you know they'll stay busy.
Speaker 1: And then you've got Gary jeff Walker and his cast
Speaker 1: of characters and Gary Jeffers. Since I know you're waiting
Speaker 1: in the win, you pay attention to some of this stuff. Okay,
Speaker 1: I really want you to, because uh, you know, you
Speaker 1: being from down south and all, you know, I think.
Speaker 2: You're like it. All right.
Speaker 1: We had Mike Moore, editor of Ohio Outdoor News. Okay, Mike,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're beginning to follow and I've had to
Speaker 1: follow this for about a week and a half or
Speaker 1: maybe more.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: The woman hiking.
Speaker 1: Uh uh you know east to excuse me, west of
Speaker 1: Denver on I guess a well known trail and uh
Speaker 1: was uh you know, was killed by a mountain lion
Speaker 1: it was. It was alledge for about a week. I
Speaker 1: don't know what took so long, but that's where it stood. Now,
Speaker 1: of course we come to find out that, uh, there
Speaker 1: were probably three lines involved. Two have been killed, one
Speaker 1: had human DNA in it, the other one did not.
Speaker 1: She was asphyxiated, which means she probably came out of
Speaker 1: a tree, jumped on her neck and just took care
Speaker 1: of it from there.
Speaker 4: Oh my good.
Speaker 1: So going back even farther, there have been multiple uh
Speaker 1: uh uh near attacks in the weeks preceding which just
Speaker 1: came out.
Speaker 2: So this was not an isolated incident.
Speaker 1: And so you know, you're talking about other couples, and
Speaker 1: here's what I don't get.
Speaker 2: Okay, Hey, you know it's tragic.
Speaker 1: Why are you not Why why are you out there
Speaker 1: alone in an area known for mountain lions, in.
Speaker 4: The area known for mountain lions, and probably didn't have
Speaker 4: pepper spray or whatever might have helped her, you know.
Speaker 1: So that's right, did not have a gun, a handgun,
Speaker 1: did not have pepper spray, no no protection whatsoever.
Speaker 4: What what do you think? What are you thinking? Exactly? Yes,
Speaker 4: that's when it comes. That's the first thing that comes
Speaker 4: to mind for me.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you're in lions there.
Speaker 1: All the lions have come down out of high country
Speaker 1: because all of the game is down the elk, the
Speaker 1: deer and everything else.
Speaker 2: They follow the food, the food.
Speaker 1: So you know, here we are today, and I guess
Speaker 1: they've got one more lion to go after, they think,
Speaker 1: and so.
Speaker 2: It'll happen again.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Man, that's that's a real I wonder if I'm
Speaker 4: sure Colorado has a hunting season mountain lion. Don't they
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Not, yes, but not with dogs.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, they banned that.
Speaker 2: I guess they. I don't know when. But there is
Speaker 2: a lion season.
Speaker 1: However, most difficult if you're not using dogs, because that's
Speaker 1: how you hunt mountain lions.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they probably are not hunting in the National
Speaker 4: Park either. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I have not gotten into any of that.
Speaker 1: I know that this particular location is close to Rocky
Speaker 1: Mountain National Park, but it's a different, I guess kind
Speaker 1: of wilderness area. But nonetheless, it is an unusual circumstance.
Speaker 1: I think it goes back probably thirty years since the
Speaker 1: last time that this has happened. But you know, when
Speaker 1: you move into Lyon country, and they're gonna get used
Speaker 1: to you, and that's just get lesson, you know, they're
Speaker 1: they're gonna get less afraid, so to speak.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I guess there's a.
Speaker 2: Lesson there, Mike. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think our audience is smart enough to
Speaker 1: know that, uh, you know, we don't do stupid craft
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: And these people there against hunting, I mean that there's
Speaker 4: evidence right there, you know.
Speaker 2: So absolutely all right.
Speaker 1: Tell us about the Waldo, Ohio Coyote round up.
Speaker 4: Oh man, it's a big deal up here just north
Speaker 4: of where I am Chip And there's a guy named
Speaker 4: Lonnie Henderson who does a little bit of writing for me,
Speaker 4: and he's he's really involved with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I've never been up to it. I don't know exactly
Speaker 4: what goes on, but I know it's a huge deal
Speaker 4: up in Waldo, which is in Marion County, just north
Speaker 4: of Columba.
Speaker 1: Well, clip being a chair editor and get up there
Speaker 1: and take care of it. Well, yeah, assign somebody to it,
Speaker 1: one of your other rip brawn and journalists for crying out, I.
Speaker 4: Really because yeah, Lannie has invited me, and it's it's
Speaker 4: always right around my anniversary. It's like November fourteenth or
Speaker 4: something like that, and or maybe that's something else. Anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 4: the club.
Speaker 1: This is uh January sixteen to eighteen, so it's for
Speaker 1: a three day period and uh so I guess you know,
Speaker 1: it's really just free range coyote hunting and whatever you shop,
Speaker 1: you bring in and and then and then there you
Speaker 1: have it.
Speaker 2: Okay, So yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's that's really kind
Speaker 2: of fun.
Speaker 4: You know, absolutely. Man. I don't get a lot of
Speaker 4: pictures from coyote hunters, but they they are, They're out there,
Speaker 4: kys are everywhere.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, you put the call out for pictures from
Speaker 1: coyote hunters.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's right.
Speaker 2: I want you to do that.
Speaker 1: Okay, So how can we best find Ohio Outdoor News Www.
Speaker 4: Outdoornews dot com, backslash Ohio.
Speaker 1: All right, you keep up the good work and we'll
Speaker 1: catch up down the road.
Speaker 3: Michael, Thank you, partner.
Speaker 1: Okay, see you bye bye. With that, I'm out of
Speaker 1: here for a minute. Gotta go to the bathroom. Come back,
Speaker 1: do a few things. Let you lose, bet you loose
Speaker 1: to Gary Jeff chip Hard seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati, w LW. Hey,
Speaker 1: we're back the Big Outdoors News Radio seven hundred WLW Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: heading in the bottom of a hour waiting for Gary
Speaker 1: Jeff to walk in here and PLoP his butt down.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah.
Speaker 1: In the meantime, you have until tomorrow to put in
Speaker 1: your application to become an Ohio Wildlife Officer in their
Speaker 1: training school. They're going to fill up the twelve positions
Speaker 1: beginning in August of twenty twenty six. So maybe you're
Speaker 1: a centi cop. Maybe you're another you know, city cop.
Speaker 1: You want the you want the great outdoors. Check it out, man,
Speaker 1: you might have a heck of a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: You don't have to hunt and fish, but you certainly
Speaker 1: got to know about it. Moving on, Tennessee is now
Speaker 1: the first US state to make gun safety courses mandatory
Speaker 1: in schools. What do you think of that, Danny? I mean,
Speaker 1: what whose brainchild?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: I remember back in the day the NRA had the
Speaker 1: any Eddie the Eagle program, you know, firearms training, you
Speaker 1: know safety and all that.
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's still around.
Speaker 1: Tennessee took the initiative and uh uh, let's see. The
Speaker 1: new law, signed by Governor Bill Lee, will take effect
Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty sixth school year, all K twelve
Speaker 1: students to receive annual training on basic gun safety. That
Speaker 1: is just absolutely fantastic. If you're wondering where Ohio ranks
Speaker 1: in terms of Trophy Bucks, this came out in Game
Speaker 1: and Fish, and I think was written by a game
Speaker 1: guy named Mike Rex with Buckeye Big Bucks at least
Speaker 1: he probably found all this. Ohio ranks two number two
Speaker 1: in the nation with four hundred and sixty four Trophy
Speaker 1: B and C entries from the past ten years. And
Speaker 1: if you think Ohio's deer hunting sucks, look again. With that,
Speaker 1: I'm gone. Gary Jeffins. Next The Big Outdoors News Radio
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Speaker 1: the water and the remaining days in your deer stand