1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Boston's Bulldozer operates seven days a week. The Kuner Report 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: Weekend edition w RKO, The Voice of Boston. 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 2: Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 2: is the number. Just an exclamation point. I want to 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 2: go to the phone lines. But this is from Larry 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 2: on Messenger and I think, you know it's it's such 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 2: a simple point, but it's so true and so penetrating. 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: And it goes to the Hamini, you know, the late 9 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 2: Supreme leader, and how this really this is his war. 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: He's the one that made mistake, I mean fatal mistake 11 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 2: after fatal mistake after fatal mistake. And now they're on 12 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: the verge of losing everything, I mean the whole the 13 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: whole regime, the whole Islamic Republic now because they just 14 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 2: squandered it, they just squandered everything. Well and now even 15 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: as they're going down, Just to think about how irrational 16 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: they are, Jeff, can you imagine the thought process of 17 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 2: turning the other Arab countries against Israel and the United 18 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: States by bombing those same countries, like with three question marks? 19 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 2: Like think of the level of the mind, how primitive 20 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 2: Israel and the United States are bombing us so what's 21 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: our response? Bomb Saudi Arabia bomb, United Arab Emirates bomb, quake, 22 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 2: Bombahrain really bomb, Turkey bomb, bombing, Rock bomb, bomb, Lebanon bomb, 23 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: Syria bomb, you know, bomb everybody. I mean, they are 24 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 2: attacking Israel a little bit. What I'm saying is, so 25 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: I bomb all these other countries are neighbors. Oh that's 26 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: that's really gonna show them. That's really all boy. I mean, guys, 27 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: this is brilliant. Who thought of that one? I mean 28 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: you you can't make this up. You literally can't make 29 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 2: this up. They're going down, and they're going down hard. 30 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight 31 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: is the number. Dan in North Andover. Thanks for holding Dan, 32 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: and welcome. 33 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 3: Dan's no longer in North Andover. 34 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: He's now in Arlington. Dan in Arlington, go ahead, my friend. 35 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 3: Man, oh man, hey, my brother from another mother. I'm 36 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 3: a little angry with you the beginning of the week 37 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 3: because I honestly think that this started jeff In on 38 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 3: January thirty first, nineteen seventy nine, and I'll never forget this. 39 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 3: I was sitting on my grandmother's her house in Belricka, Massachusetts, 40 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 3: on our living room floor with a big old green 41 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 3: shag carpeting and watching a big old wooden box TV 42 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 3: and watching the Ayatola get on a plane in Paris, 43 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 3: on a seven forty seven to fly out of Paris, 44 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 3: And I've said to her. I remember turning to her 45 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 3: and I said, that's a bad man. Why are we 46 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 3: not shooting down that plane? Not if if a fourteen 47 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 3: year old kid, you know, literally a high school freshman 48 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 3: from a mediocre high school could think of that, what 49 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 3: what the hell were we doing as a government, you know, 50 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 3: just and you know, we had the chance. Reagan could 51 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 3: have taken him out for what he did in the 52 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 3: for what he did, taken the hostages, he could have 53 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 3: he could have taken out a Ran at that point, 54 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 3: were way way stronger than them. At that point, they weren't. 55 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 3: They weren't building up their military like they've done for 56 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 3: the last fifty years. They if we could have taken 57 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 3: them out after the after the coal we could have 58 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 3: taken them out after the Omi barracks and and Lebanon. 59 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 3: All of those opportunities to take them out, and we 60 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 3: never took it. So I think I think we've got 61 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 3: to finish this as much as as much as I 62 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 3: hate to see somebody, you know, I hate to see 63 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 3: us have to go into a war, we've got to 64 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 3: take him out. We've got to finish it. And I 65 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 3: think they've got to dig real deep to take out. 66 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 2: All of the all of the. 67 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 3: True fanatics, because you know, you know, when I look 68 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 3: at what we did in Libya and taken out Kadafi 69 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 3: with you know, he was he was unifying, but he 70 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 3: was he was friendly to us, and we took him out. 71 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 3: You know, he was a punk in the eighties, but 72 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 3: he grew up. 73 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you mentioned Libya. Look, and that that's the fear, right, 74 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 2: the fear is when you have a regime change like 75 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: we did in Libya, what happened, well, what came after 76 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: was worse. The country was destabilized, there was anarchy everywhere, chaos, 77 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: civil war, and basically al Qaeda took over half the country. 78 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 2: So it ended up being a disaster. And look, let 79 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 2: me ask you this, Dan, That's obviously what Trump is 80 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 2: afraid of with Iran. That's why he wants a stable 81 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 2: success or government. He's looking for someone to who's got 82 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: enough legitimacy, enough cachet, enough appeal enough, not you know, 83 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 2: it doesn't have to be universally beloved, but enough that 84 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: and better than the Mullahs. Like again, like he put 85 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 2: in like he's put in place in Venezuela, So we 86 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 2: don't have to be there put boots on the ground 87 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 2: to prop up a government, some kind of an interim government, 88 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 2: because then that leads to Iraq and god knows, you know, 89 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: an insurgency against us. So my question to you is this, then, 90 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 2: do you believe the regime is going to fall? And 91 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: can Trump pull one more rabbit out of his hat 92 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: and get a stable successor government. If he does that, 93 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: it's the ballgame? What say you? 94 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: So? 95 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 3: I honestly think that trying to put in a successor 96 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 3: government is going to be next to impossible. I think 97 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: that the US has taken this stance obviously for the 98 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 3: last you know, forty years, is that we are better 99 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 3: off fighting a bunch of punks than one major force. 100 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 3: So let a Ran splinter, let them kill each other, 101 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 3: let them go to war with each other, and we'll 102 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: take a backseat and fight off the punks as they 103 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 3: come up. 104 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 2: Interesting. Dan, Interesting, So okay, so Dan says, and Dan thinks, no, 105 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: we'll have regime change the Mullas will be toppled. But 106 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 2: then let Iran disintegrate, and as Iran splits apart, you'll 107 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: see factions emerge and they'll start fighting among themselves, and 108 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: we just try to contain it as much as possible. 109 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 2: But what you may end up seeing is anarchy, chaos, 110 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: and you know, let these you know, let them just 111 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 2: slaughter each other, and that'll weaken them more, and weaken 112 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: the more, and weaken the more. Agree disagree your calls. 113 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: Next you're locked into Boston's Bulldozer, The Kooner Report Weekend edition, 114 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: The Voice of Boston w RKO