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Speaker 1: Every tournament, upset, every highlight with KF at Hophouse, enjoyed guards,

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Speaker 1: all day, including sixty five inch TVs. All the details

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Speaker 2: So I believe that that's tomorrow and then Max Fuller

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Speaker 2: and Halvey are doing some more at.

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Speaker 1: Hop House as well. Right, that's my understanding. Yes, No,

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Speaker 2: Hophouse is and I just haven't gotten the chance to

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Speaker 3: Maybe I should go down there one of the next

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Speaker 3: two days after the show. The place is awesome.

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Speaker 2: So and it's cool that we got our guys just

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Speaker 2: And it's cool that I get the chance to catch

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Speaker 2: up with our guy Paul Charchi in in Utah and

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Speaker 3: How you doing charge, I am doing great. Nice to

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Speaker 4: It's uh, Well, when I say I'm doing great, I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna be more real than that. Okay, I'm battling seasonal

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Speaker 2: That's why you moved out there though, right the picturesque

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Speaker 2: And you know, just kind of bouncing around mentally like

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Speaker 4: Well, I've spent a week talking myself into it, and

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Speaker 4: I did watch over one hundred Kyler Murray passes from

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Speaker 4: Some of the things that that I think bear a

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Speaker 4: If you don't mind first the that he's too short

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Speaker 4: And that's gonna be that's gonna be something that you know,

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Speaker 2: With that, we know most of them, but there was

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Speaker 4: Kyler's great at that, great at that, and that wasn't

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm excited to talk about it because this is

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Speaker 2: turning into like an episode of Football MythBusters and the

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Speaker 3: So let's hear it.

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Speaker 4: True story around probably twenty two thousand and three or so,

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Speaker 4: To the Discovery Channel a couple of times and tried

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Speaker 2: And then all the stuff that they blew up there

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Speaker 4: Let's talk batted balls. Let's see if we can bust

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Speaker 4: some myths on batted balls. Here's here is where Kyler

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Speaker 2: And in some ways that kind of maybe you make

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Speaker 3: My very ears, mister Charchie, and I love it all right.

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Speaker 4: Last one of the of the myth busting variety that

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Speaker 4: he can't function under center. And granted, the overwhelming majority

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Speaker 4: But I'd like to stress it he can play under center.

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Speaker 4: Offering a lot of coaches can be successful when they

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Speaker 3: This season.

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Speaker 4: He has to be self aware enough that you know,

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Speaker 4: I mean, Kevin, And now that there isn't an overarching

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you lay that out perfectly, and I completely in lockstep,

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Speaker 4: but guys who aren't gonna aren't gonna get on the

438
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Speaker 4: field and just soil themselves because the newness of the

439
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Speaker 4: whole thing and the opportunity so big, and you know,

440
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Speaker 4: give me a give me a vet that's cheap. That

441
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Speaker 4: isn't going to embarrass himself. If we need, uh, you know,

442
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Speaker 4: we need half a game of reps as as as

443
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Speaker 4: an injury replacement at cornerbacker safety. That to me, that

444
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Speaker 4: would be That'd be the move I've got I've got

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Speaker 4: sitting in my back pocket.

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Speaker 3: What do you think of that?

447
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Speaker 2: No?

448
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Speaker 3: I like that.

449
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Speaker 2: And then I don't have names that I'm going to

450
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Speaker 2: prominently display here because it is all depth and I'm

451
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 2: still kind of thinking about that center spot and the

452
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Speaker 2: names that are available. It's rough, man, I mean you

453
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,439
Speaker 2: and half half the center is available right now are

454
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Speaker 2: either coming off some sort of Achilles or acl related issue.

455
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 2: I'm too burnt from from the hardgrave and Allen and

456
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Speaker 2: some of the moves we made last year. I need

457
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Speaker 2: guys that have played a full freaking season. Please add

458
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Speaker 2: healthy guys into the mix. But but no, I'm I'm

459
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Speaker 2: I'm right there with you. Now. I did want to

460
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Speaker 2: jump back to McCarthy because I found this in this

461
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Speaker 2: Albert Breer piece that Pa and I talked about yesterday. Now, Kyler,

462
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Speaker 2: it's a one year deal. Arizona's footing the bill. We

463
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Speaker 2: dig that, and and McCarthy now, entering year three, they'll

464
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Speaker 2: have a fifth year option related conversation to have a

465
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Speaker 2: year from now. But but there was a quote in

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Speaker 2: in the Breer piece. This is what Breer said, What

467
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Speaker 2: O'Connell said to Murray did stick with him, that he

468
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Speaker 2: was the one guy in the market that could be

469
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Speaker 2: seen as a potential long range answer rather than a

470
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Speaker 2: one year band aid, the idea potentially a year from now,

471
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Speaker 2: we're talking about paying Kyler Murray forty five or fifty

472
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Speaker 2: million dollars a year charge.

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Speaker 3: How does that sit with you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's great. I mean, you know, this is

475
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Speaker 4: the thing that I this was really a Kirk Cousins conversation.

476
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Speaker 4: If you're paying your quarterback for forty million dollars, it's

477
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Speaker 4: because your quarterback's pretty good, you know. And you know,

478
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 4: we tried, we just tried the other path. We were like, Okay,

479
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Speaker 4: we're gonna we're gonna pay our quarterback nothing. We're gonna

480
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Speaker 4: put him on his rookie deal, and then we're gonna

481
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Speaker 4: sign a bunch of other guys. And you know, but

482
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Speaker 4: if those other guys aren't awesome, you can't make up

483
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Speaker 4: for your quarterback what you've what you've lost in the

484
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Speaker 4: quarterback side of the equation. And that's what we just

485
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Speaker 4: that's what we just did by letting Sam Donold walk

486
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Speaker 4: her cousins walk. That's you know, if you are paying,

487
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Speaker 4: if we're paying Kyler Murray forty million dollars next year,

488
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Speaker 4: it's because it's good you've got a good quarterback that

489
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Speaker 4: we that that's what we ultimately want, is a good quarterback.

490
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Speaker 4: And if we're paying JJ McCarthy forty million dollars, apparently

491
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Speaker 4: he got good too. I mean, your goal is ultimately

492
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Speaker 4: to be paying your quarterback a lot of money because

493
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Speaker 4: it means you have.

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Speaker 3: A good quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Right It's this isn't you know, we're not talking about

496
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Speaker 4: a guard.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about your quarterback.

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Speaker 4: You know, if you've got a good quarterback, pay him

499
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Speaker 4: and be and be damn happy you've got a good one.

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Speaker 4: And if we're paying Kyler Murray forty million next year, fine.

501
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Speaker 4: Apparently things worked out and we had a good season

502
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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty six, and we had a lot of

503
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Speaker 4: fun and we got reason for optimism in twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: You're as good as it gets. Charge. I really appreciate

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Speaker 3: you spending time with me this morning. Man, this has

506
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Speaker 3: been This has been a lot of fun. And I hope,

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Speaker 3: I hope you know.

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Speaker 4: I was hoping that we'd be recapping like seven different

509
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Speaker 4: uh free agent acquisitions.

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Speaker 3: But well not uh not where not where.

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Speaker 2: That's not where Quacy left us. We're we're out of

512
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Speaker 2: money and uh. But but here's what. Actually, I got

513
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Speaker 2: one more thing. It's completely off the beaten bath path.

514
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Speaker 2: And you talked about this via text. You sent me

515
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Speaker 2: an email on it, the AI bit with golf because

516
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Speaker 2: I'm completely fascinated charts. Whether it's the sports betting world

517
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Speaker 2: that might that might be a conversation for another day.

518
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Speaker 2: But AI in fantasy sports and how that is dictating decisions,

519
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Speaker 2: how accurate it is. I mean, we joke all the

520
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Speaker 2: time about kind of the AAR, the the AI aggregation

521
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Speaker 2: of sports information it can be. I mean it's dubious

522
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Speaker 2: at best sometimes. But from an AI fantasy sports standpoint,

523
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Speaker 2: I think you did something golf related recently. How's AI

524
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Speaker 2: meshing or not meshing with fantasy sports?

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm glad you asked, because I've got a I'm

526
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Speaker 4: in a I mean, a fantasy golf league gets a

527
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Speaker 4: one and done style league where it runs for about

528
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Speaker 4: half of the PGA season. You can only pick one

529
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Speaker 4: golfer one time forever over the course of the season.

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Speaker 4: So you gotta figure out when am I gonna When

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna start Scottie Shuffler. Yeah, And so I you know,

532
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Speaker 4: I'm not a great golf mind. I follow it lightly.

533
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Speaker 4: I used to play fantasy golf ardently, but not anymore.

534
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Speaker 4: So I thought, you know what, I don't know that

535
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Speaker 4: much about it. I'm gonna let AI make my picks

536
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Speaker 4: every single week and see how it turns out. And

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Speaker 4: so I've set up a series of prompts for AI,

538
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Speaker 4: and if you'd like, I will tell you what those

539
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Speaker 4: prompts are. And then it chooses a golfer, and then

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Speaker 4: I picked that golfer. Yeah, that's terrific. If that's a yes, yes, Okay.

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Speaker 4: So here's the props first for my fantasy golf league

542
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Speaker 4: and why you can help me choose from a short

543
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Speaker 4: list of the single best possible golfers for this week's

544
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Speaker 4: upcoming PGA event. I can only choose one golfer one

545
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Speaker 4: time all year, so I have to be thoughtful about

546
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Speaker 4: out who I select, knowing that I may want to

547
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Speaker 4: choose him later. The final event is the BMW Championship

548
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 4: in August. My Fantasy League scoring system awards the golfers

549
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 4: winning dollar amount as fantasy points. You need to consider

550
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Speaker 4: the prize perse for the current event weighted against prize

551
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Speaker 4: purses of future events in your calculation. Splitterer consideration as

552
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 4: one third for recent play, one third for event history,

553
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,959
Speaker 4: and one third for playing style match to this course,

554
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Speaker 4: and when looking at this event's history more heavily weight

555
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 4: recent performances within the last three years. Okay, So it

556
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Speaker 4: has given me so far, Justin Rose Harris English, Sam Burns, Seawoo,

557
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Speaker 4: Kim Harry Hall, Hideki Matsuyama, Shane Lowry, who melted down

558
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 4: three weeks ago, had a three stroke league with three

559
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Speaker 4: hole to play and loss, didn't end up winning, Scotty Shuffler,

560
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Speaker 4: who then turned in the worst performance of his career

561
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Speaker 4: two weeks ago, and then last week it gave me

562
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Speaker 4: Callin more Cowa who withdrew with a bad back. So

563
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Speaker 4: right now I'm sitting in twenty second out of fifty

564
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Speaker 4: teams in my league using letting AI pick my players.

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Speaker 2: So it's a work in progress. Charge it's a work

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Speaker 2: in progress. The AI could not have known that Morikawa

567
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Speaker 2: had a bad back.

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Speaker 4: None of us did, and and you know, so that

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Speaker 4: was that was a big blow though last last week

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Speaker 4: and Shane Lowry melting down was not a consideration for

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Speaker 4: the AI. I don't think Scottie Scheffler playing his worst

572
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Speaker 4: round in two years was probably not something that AI

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Speaker 4: saw coming.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, that's that's what I'm doing.

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Speaker 4: And you know it's led me to twenty second out

576
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Speaker 4: of fifty, which is not bad and probably better than

577
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Speaker 4: I would have done on my own.

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Speaker 3: I dig it.

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Speaker 2: Man, Hey, thanks for thanks for hanging out with me,

580
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Speaker 2: and we're going to catch up soon.

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Speaker 3: All right, sounds great, great talking to you. Bye bye, Brett.

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Speaker 2: By charge, that's Paul Charchie and have Paul Charchie and

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Speaker 2: via x Kyler Combo and some AI golf who knew

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Speaker 2: you'd get that on a Wednesday morning. We're gonna pause

585
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Speaker 2: and we're gonna come back. Justin guard the box for

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Speaker 2: Gophers Women's hoops at Williams Arena this weekend, tipping off

587
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Speaker 2: Friday at five, I believe. With Green Bay in town,

588
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Speaker 2: the women's NCAA tournament is upon us and we get

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Speaker 2: home games.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna chat about that with Guardsy next nine to New.

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Speaker 2: and of course I mean fill in host when he

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Speaker 2: does it. He does so many different things for Gophers athletics,

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Speaker 2: including play by play for the Gopher women's squad as

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Speaker 2: they embark on an NCAA March Madness journey.

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Speaker 3: They don't have to go far, do they? How about that.

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Speaker 5: Hosting games in the tourney? Man, that's so sweet. I'd

604
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Speaker 5: be on a plane right now. It's great to see you.

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Speaker 5: It's great to be here. We haven't had a good

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Speaker 5: hang since when, Like Army Navy twenty twenty yeah, twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty one, maybe two. Army Navy is where we solve

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Speaker 5: a lot of problems. Steel, Like, I don't even see

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Speaker 5: you anymore.

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Speaker 2: No, it's well, it's just ships passing in the night

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Speaker 2: and it's it's time slot terrorism. Abbott would say that

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Speaker 2: I don't care anymore because I don't stay until late

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Speaker 2: enough to see you in the afternoon, step into the office.

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Speaker 3: Do a little ripping.

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Speaker 2: I could come earlier too, check the pulse on a

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Speaker 2: little b and we just, you know, let the good

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Speaker 2: times roll in the office.

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Speaker 5: So I could come earlier. But yeah, it's gonna be awesome.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be great. I can show it a little

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Speaker 5: earlier too, But I've got a lot of things to do.

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Speaker 5: As you mentioned, I've got a lot of Gopher stuff

622
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Speaker 5: going on. We've got TV shows right after this. We've

623
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Speaker 5: got first round games for the first time in over

624
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Speaker 5: twenty years at Williams Arena. It's the first time the

625
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Speaker 5: program's ever actually earned the right by what they've done

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Speaker 5: this season to host. Because back in the day, this

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Speaker 5: is how much it's changed. Back in the day, they

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Speaker 5: predetermined host sites.

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Speaker 3: Oh they did.

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Speaker 5: Oh, they just kind of guessed, we think this team's

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Speaker 5: going to be good, let's let them host first and

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Speaker 5: second round games. If in fact they are good regardless

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Speaker 5: of seed.

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Speaker 3: For real.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so how would that impact And they'll tell

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Speaker 2: you it doesn't. Has there ever been the impact of

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Speaker 2: seeding then associated with that if you predetermined them, that

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00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 2: could impact Well, this team's at twelve, Well suddenly now

639
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Speaker 2: they're a seven because they're hosting a first weekend.

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Speaker 5: Well, no, it's even worse. They would get the seed

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Speaker 5: that they earned. For example, the two thousand and four

642
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 5: women's Final four team with Lindsay Whalen, Janel mccarvill and crew.

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Speaker 5: Because Whalen was injured for like the last month of

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Speaker 5: the season before the tournament started, that team got a

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00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 5: seven seed, had to host, played a game against a ten,

646
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Speaker 5: and then a poor two seed had to come into

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Speaker 5: the House of paining Kansas State and just get run

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Speaker 5: out of the building in one of the great games

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Speaker 5: in Williams Arena history.

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Speaker 3: So that's what.

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Speaker 5: Would used to happen. So now I don't know if

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Speaker 5: it's because of that or other things. Now you have

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Speaker 5: to earn it. Now you've got to be in the

654
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Speaker 5: top sixteen, and it's a huge deal. So the Gophers

655
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 5: were kind of on a sweat last week to figure

656
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 5: out if they were going to finish in the top sixteen.

657
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 5: They did, and now they've got a huge, massive opportunity

658
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 5: this weekend where tickets are flying off the shelves, which

659
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 5: is awesome.

660
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 2: So you're saying that Whalen's team got a free pass

661
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 2: to the Sweet sixteen.

662
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 5: No, because once she came back, they were like a

663
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 5: tie three or four seed, but they'd lost a bunch

664
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 5: of games. But I would not wanted to be that

665
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 5: Kansas State team. That was what I could say could

666
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 5: not have been a fun weekend for them.

667
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 2: Is so first turning appearing since twenty eighteen, and it's

668
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 2: Don plitz Away, the head coach at Gophers women's When

669
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 2: did it start throughout this year? And maybe I'm just

670
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,959
Speaker 2: and maybe you'll have the same answer. I'm targeting kind

671
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 2: of that conference stretch where it was just wwww. It

672
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 2: was eight nine, ten games in a row where they

673
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 2: handled business. Was that kind of where you started going?

674
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 2: I think the ladies are onto something.

675
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 5: More, Honestly, No, because, like I figured they were going

676
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 5: to be good this year. Obviously this is my fifth

677
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 5: year doing the games, and you just kind of see

678
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 5: where it was going that all these kids that they've

679
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 5: been playing the last three or four years, they're grown

680
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 5: ass women now. And just when I got started with this,

681
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 5: the teams that were really good. It's just like men's

682
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 5: college basketball. The teams that were really good had a

683
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 5: bunch of third, fourth, fifth year players that had played

684
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 5: one hundred games together. Think about the Caitlin Clark Iowa

685
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 5: club Indiana was very good. They had a bunch of

686
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 5: players that literally played one hundred games together.

687
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 3: And this group of Gophers Mara.

688
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 5: Bron Gray, Kerhoalski, and Maya Battles, Sophie Hart go down

689
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 5: the list. The last couple of years have been playing

690
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 5: all of those teams as freshmen and sophomores, and they

691
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 5: took some lumps. But even watching them last year with

692
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 5: Mara being injured again winning the WBIT, I think that

693
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 5: was helpful and so figured if they're all healthy, they

694
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 5: should be pretty good. And where I think the team

695
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 5: got hurt a little bit was they dropped a game

696
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 5: to Maryland in December that you know a lot of

697
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 5: people watched, a lot of people saw it. They should

698
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 5: have won the game, they gave it away and that

699
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 5: was a game that could have caught everybody's attention like

700
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 5: that right, But because they didn't, it took a minute.

701
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 5: I think for people, including national people that vote for

702
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 5: things like hosting regionals and things like that to go, Yeah,

703
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 5: this team is pretty good. So when they went to

704
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 5: Iowa and beat Iowa for the first time in Iowa

705
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 5: City since two thousand and seven, that's what got everybody's attention.

706
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 5: Iowa was ranked tenth at the time, and they pretty

707
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 5: much would shed it them. They were up twenty in

708
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 5: the fourth quarter and played great. But so I thought

709
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 5: they'd have a good year if they could stay healthy

710
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 5: for the most part, and they obviously, you know, finished

711
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 5: that off with nine game winning streaking the Big Ten,

712
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 5: and now they're hosting games this weekend.

713
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 3: It's been a phenomenal season. No, it's it's awesome.

714
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 2: And you know, I told you before you came in here,

715
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 2: I might have stupid questions for you just because I

716
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 2: have here, I haven't been as close to it as

717
00:35:59,080 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 2: you have.

718
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 3: Here's what I'll say. I'm not like we always joke

719
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 3: about the ball guys.

720
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, you go to the press box at Target Field,

721
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 5: that's the least welcoming place ever with all the ball guys.

722
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 5: And we're friends with a lot of those guys. But

723
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 5: what do they all say, Oh, Wow, who's showing up.

724
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 5: We don't do that. I don't do that. Okay, Go

725
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 5: for football, Go for basketball, go for women's basketball.

726
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 3: If you want to come. If this is intrigued you,

727
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 3: I'm here to help you.

728
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 5: I'm not going to make you feel stupid because you

729
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 5: haven't been watching the All Ten all year, so there

730
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 5: are no dumb questions.

731
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 3: I'm not a ball guy. Go ahead, But who drives?

732
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 3: Is it Mar Brown? Is it the return from injury?

733
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 2: As it helps how evenly they are when you're just

734
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 2: if you're chasing box scores and you look at the production,

735
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 2: the combination of health combined with the support scoring across

736
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 2: the board, it just seems the consistency of that top five.

737
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 3: You can bring Glenn off the bench.

738
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 2: Like I just think there's a lot of even handedness

739
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 2: to the way their offense operates.

740
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 5: You're seeing it clearly, Oh thank you, you're seeing it clearly,

741
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 5: and that is the beauty of the team. You want

742
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 5: to hear about the Seattle Crackett not particular, really no,

743
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 5: And I don't want your dry sidle takes too on

744
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 5: how that's going to affect countor McDavid in his prime.

745
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,760
Speaker 5: But look at the five starters Nordo. All five starters

746
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 5: averaged in double figures. Like, that's really hard to do.

747
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 5: I don't know how many teams have that. I don't

748
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 5: know if if very many teams in the country have that.

749
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 5: And that's the beauty of it on any given night,

750
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 5: you know, I'm just looking at the list right now.

751
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 5: Like Tory McKinney her career highs in the high twenties,

752
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 5: Gray Scorholski her career highs in the thirties. Same with

753
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 5: Mara Broun, Sophie Hard it's the twenties and my battle

754
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 5: is the thirties. They've all gone off at some point

755
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 5: over the last couple of years, and that's the beauty

756
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 5: of it. And they're very you know democratic their ego lists.

757
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 5: They have great vibes together, they get along and so

758
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 5: at any given moment, one of those players can have

759
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 5: a big night, and a lot of moments this year,

760
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 5: four or five of them have had big nights, and

761
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,919
Speaker 5: so that's the beauty of the team. And by the way,

762
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 5: all these players, Tory McKinney could go anywhere and probably

763
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 5: score more. Mar Broun, same thing. Great, they all have more.

764
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 5: If they were playing on a team that didn't have

765
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 5: that depth, they could average eighteen nineteen points mar Braun

766
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 5: did that as a freshman when they needed her to

767
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 5: do that. They don't need her to do that anymore.

768
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 5: And it's just the consistency and the balance and the

769
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 5: depth that makes them so formidable.

770
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 2: Secrets out packing the barn, I mean, you know, tickets

771
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 2: flying for not just this weekend, but maybe even really

772
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 2: the anticipatory nature of fandom, where the games leading up

773
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 2: to this barn getting loud for the ladies.

774
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, they had a great crowd the senior day against

775
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 5: Michigan State. I think like seventy five hundred or something

776
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 5: like that, best crowd of the season. It'll be over

777
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 5: ten thousand on Friday, which is awesome. Five o'clock tiptime

778
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 5: is good. Lower levels already sold out. Most of the

779
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 5: sides on the upper level are sold out as well,

780
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,479
Speaker 5: So now they're working on the ends. Now they're working

781
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 5: on the ends to get those filled in. And as

782
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 5: I've been telling everybody, like it's if you haven't been

783
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 5: at the barn in a while, and I trust me,

784
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 5: I'm there a lot for men and women. I know

785
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 5: a lot of you haven't been at the barn for

786
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 5: a while. I know we all wax nostalgia about what

787
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 5: a great building it is, and we can never do

788
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 5: anything with it and you can never touch it. And

789
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 5: I said, well you've been there lately and they go,

790
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 5: well no, not really said okay, well I need some updates.

791
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 5: Let's just start there. But there really aren't any bad seats.

792
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 5: So like if people get on gophersports dot com and

793
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 5: they're like, oh man, there's only uppers in row five,

794
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 5: like you're right there, Like I sit there all the time.

795
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 5: My radio spot is first row, the upper deck. It's awesome.

796
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 5: So if that's holding you back, I would say don't go.

797
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 5: Five o'clock. Tickets are twenty six bucks. And it's a

798
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 5: great team. It's a fun team to watch, and the

799
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 5: vibes have been outstanding, especially once, like I said earlier,

800
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 5: people started picking up the scent of this team. The

801
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 5: vibes have been outstanding and off the charts.

802
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 2: So get out Alive, dominate green Bay on Friday. Then

803
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 2: it's the winner of ole Miss and Gonzega, and after that,

804
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 2: I think, I mean it doesn't get easy. I mean

805
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 2: sweet sixteen would be would be sweet. I think UCLA

806
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 2: heavily favored.

807
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 3: In that mix. Just what's the buzz around where they sit?

808
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 2: In the tournament where they sit in the bracket, and

809
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 2: just kind of thinking at a higher level in terms

810
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: of where where they might have a chance or the

811
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 2: struggles maybe that might lie ahead of them if they

812
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 2: get through this weekend.

813
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 3: Well, what would be.

814
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 5: Interesting about like this first game, for example, is and

815
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 5: we've had a lot of these over the years, the

816
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 5: regional opponents. There's, you know, a handful of Wisconsin kids

817
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 5: on Minnesota. There's a handful of Minnesota kids on Green Bay.

818
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 5: Half of them played AAU together either here or there,

819
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 5: so there's not like that awe factor or familiarity. I'm

820
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 5: guessing a lot of these players for Green Bay have

821
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 5: at least been to Williams Arena or maybe seen it.

822
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 5: And these two teams played going all the way back

823
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 5: to my first year, and it's a program that's used

824
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 5: to winning, so this one it's always scary. So but

825
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 5: that's the interesting the interesting psychosis of it now is

826
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 5: you wanted to host, you wanted the opportunity to host.

827
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 5: You asked the state tournament on the boy side to

828
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 5: move a week so you could keep this week open.

829
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 3: They did that.

830
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 5: Now you have it, Well, now you got to go

831
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 5: win right now, it's now, it's up. Now the pressure

832
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 5: kind of shifts to you. So it'll be interesting because

833
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 5: it has been a team that has been chasing all

834
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 5: season long and chasing respect, chasing wins, chasing down the

835
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 5: top of the Big Ten. Well, now they're the host,

836
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 5: and now teams like Green Bay and so in the

837
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 5: Old Miss coming in here saying we love to be

838
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 5: the villain, we love to be the enemy, and and

839
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 5: silence that great crowd that guards he's talking about. So,

840
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 5: but we'll see what happens in the first matchup. Old

841
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 5: Miss is gonna be tricky. SEC is a very good,

842
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 5: very good conference. Some people call it like the w

843
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 5: NBA Light because they put so many players at the

844
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 5: next level. And we'll see how they do against Gonzaga

845
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 5: because that's also a really good program that's used to winning.

846
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 3: But it's as just a great opportunity.

847
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 2: Last one, last one or two for you, and then

848
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 2: you're headed, I think to to campus today.

849
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 3: Right, is there a media thing going on as well?

850
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 5: That's tomorrow. I'm at the Don Plits the Way TV

851
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 5: show today. That's why I'm not working, That's why I'm

852
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 5: not wearing a hat. Thanks for noticing. Well, yeah, we're

853
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 5: hat guys. Yeah, we're hat guys for obvious reasons.

854
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 2: Correct, just it is as it is and uh uh

855
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: completely off topic. By the way, one of the fifty

856
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 2: things you do. Somebody texting me about the parent aspar podcast. Yeah,

857
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 2: with Grim, that was yesterday, right, Yes, we posted yesterday. Okay,

858
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 2: and the people He asked me if I had heard

859
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 2: it that there was a great bid in there or

860
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 2: something that specific with Grim, But listen to that.

861
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 3: Download it free iHeartRadio app. It was good. It won

862
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 3: an off. Hey out of this like hour long podcast?

863
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 3: Was there a really cool bit in there? My bad?

864
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 5: There were multiple bits. It was Grim as well. It

865
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 5: was supposed to be forty five minutes.

866
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 3: We went one.

867
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 5: Fifteen because he's got the Midwest goodbye. Although that was

868
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 5: our fault, we were spinning them up. It was great though.

869
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 2: Whether it was the four team that goes to goes

870
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 2: to the Final four, first appearance for the women since

871
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: since twenty eighteen, where does this particular group are There?

872
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 2: Are there similarities to the idea, Like with that four team,

873
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 2: people that had played together for a long time and

874
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: and sweated out as a group. The familiarity in the

875
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 2: bond that builds there. It sounds very I'm not trying

876
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 2: to put them as a final four team here, but

877
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 2: in terms of the similarities to a group that logged

878
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 2: a lot of minutes together and they're fully healthy, ready

879
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 2: to freaking roll, Like, where do you put this team

880
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 2: in terms of just being in the catbird seat and

881
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 2: getting the chance to watch this thing unfold by me?

882
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 5: I think I think where they are is where they

883
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 5: thought they were going to be all season, like a

884
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 5: top fifteen to sixteen team. If you look at their

885
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 5: net rating, it was basically in the top ten all season,

886
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 5: and they got rewarded for that because there was a

887
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 5: lot of speculation about the final couple of top sixteen seeds.

888
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 5: Could be Michigan State who beat them, could be Maryland

889
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 5: who beat them, could be a team like Kentucky from

890
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 5: the SEC who's been there the whole time. So I

891
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 5: just think they're kind of the team that they thought

892
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 5: they were going to be. Just a rugged defensive team.

893
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 5: That's the one thing we haven't talked about, Like, not

894
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 5: only has the experience and the depth helped them offensively,

895
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,879
Speaker 5: but it's a group that knows where each other's going

896
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,919
Speaker 5: to be. Like with flows defense, for example, like when

897
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 5: you have Harrison Smith and Mattelis and Grenard and all

898
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 5: these bits Cashman Van Ginkle that have all played together

899
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 5: now for a little bit, and they all know, they

900
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 5: all know where they're supposed to go, they all know

901
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 5: what the other person's going to do. There's just that

902
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 5: connection and connectivity. And really we've talked all about the

903
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 5: offense and who's been scoring and the balance there, but truthfully,

904
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 5: the strength of this team is their defense. Fact that

905
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 5: they hold teams to fewer than sixty points. They've been

906
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 5: in the top five all year in terms of scoring defense.

907
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 5: They don't turn the ball over. They're just such a

908
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 5: hard out And that's why it's fun because I think,

909
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 5: you know, I even remember going back to like Zimmer's defenses,

910
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 5: Like Minnesotan seem to like a good defensive effort, like

911
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 5: they understand it, like they like the ruggedness, the toughness,

912
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 5: the scrappiness.

913
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 3: And this team has that.

914
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,720
Speaker 5: And there's been so many times this season at Williams

915
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 5: where the crowd has just been uplifted by how hard

916
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 5: they're playing defensively and how miserable they're making it on

917
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 5: some of these better players of the Big Ten. And

918
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 5: so that's the other part of why it's a fun

919
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 5: team to watch, because it's not like you're pulling up

920
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 5: to target center and somebody scores seventy two points in

921
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 5: a half, right, and Anthony Edwards and Julius Randall are

922
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 5: looking around having no idea where their guy is. The

923
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 5: stuff we hear about all the time like that does

924
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 5: not happen with these women, like they are locked in.

925
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 5: And so that's why it's just been a fun team

926
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 5: to cover and kind of follow through this entire season.

927
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 5: And that's why if you're thinking about coming to the

928
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 5: Barn or coming to the Barn this weekend, that's one

929
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 5: another reason why, like you're going to see just a

930
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 5: rugged defensive crew. They're physical, they're tough that a lot

931
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 5: of other coaches in the Big Ten have said that

932
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 5: as well. It's like they're coming in to kick your ass,

933
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 5: like they're not that interested in anything else, which is

934
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 5: why they've been winning.

935
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: Well, what's the only disappointing part of this, based on

936
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 2: how you laid it out, is that the Wolves play

937
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: on Friday at seven pm.

938
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 3: Yeah in Portland, right, Yes, indeed, that's intriguing.

939
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 2: It sounds like Finch needs to take a team field

940
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 2: trip to the Barn to watch the women on Friday

941
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 2: against Green Bay to learn how to play some bleeping defense.

942
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness with where this team's at right now.

943
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: But hey, they played it last night. I heard you

944
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 2: on the way, and they played pretty well last night.

945
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 2: The Wolves thought I thought Bone and Nas is fighting

946
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 2: through this freaking shoulder thing.

947
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 3: Teams falling a fart. It was a fun game last night.

948
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 2: Was It was fun and Jalen Green was just awful,

949
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 2: which certainly helped out.

950
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 3: Especially early. I thought they were going to run us

951
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 3: out of that thing.

952
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, when Booker was scoring the way he was and

953
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 2: Jalen hit a couple of triples. You're doing terrific work

954
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 2: man for this team. You did some high school stuff. Yeah,

955
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 2: and thanks for coming in a little early. We don't

956
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 2: see each other often enough. I appreciate it.

957
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 3: Man. You could care a little bit more. I could care.

958
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 3: You could care a little bit more. Am I done? Yeah?

959
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 3: You're done?

960
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 2: All right? That's JG. That's justin guard. He's got one

961
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 2: of his fifty jobs to get to. But we carved

962
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 2: out some time this morning again. Go for women, five

963
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 2: o'clock on Friday tip off at Williams Arena. You can

964
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,600
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965
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 3: To the game. Not a bad seat in the house.

966
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,720
Speaker 2: Might need a little paint job here, there and anywhere,

967
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 2: but the barn kicks ass and it's going to be

968
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 2: a rowdy crowd to watch green Bay get the victory

969
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 2: on Friday, a Sunday, I believe Afternoon Affair would be

970
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 2: in tow then with the winner of Ole missing Gonzaga.

971
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Speaker 1: Wilder Winners, Hanson out Center, Suquerrillo storess not.

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Speaker 3: Superillo wins in it over time. Nice set up by.

979
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 2: Johansson and with a buck fifty one to go in

980
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Speaker 2: the extra.

981
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 6: Session in the wild prevailing this one four three from

982
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 6: United Center.

983
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, the game last night, you needed the two points.

984
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 2: We talked about it during nine to noon yesterday and

985
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 2: West Wall's terrific work as he does on TV, joined

986
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 2: me to open the show. But it was kind of

987
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 2: the idea of three non playoff East teams come in

988
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 2: from the Flyers to the Rangers and Leaves, and they

989
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 2: snaged two points and the shootout game against the Flyers

990
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 2: maybe the worst of the bunch, despite getting that point,

991
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 2: because Igor Schusterkin was unfreaking believable on Saturday in the

992
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 2: Rangers affair, and then it just felt like despite and

993
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 2: West noted all his own time they had like thirty

994
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 2: some minutes or something like that in the Sunday game

995
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 2: and just unable to catch. But last night then you

996
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 2: have the early urgency, as we've talked about, they get

997
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 2: up three to one. Still I want to see this

998
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 2: team close them out. That's why I want to see

999
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 2: tomorrow night. It's another six thirty puck drop affair, correct,

1000
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 2: and we're going to be at Tria for the show,

1001
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 2: and we're gonna get the chat with John Hines, Anthony Lapanta,

1002
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 2: et cetera. Close the deal in regulation. I was just

1003
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,919
Speaker 2: part of a little talker we had during the first hour.

1004
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 2: I want more Regulation victories at this time, I just

1005
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 2: want victories. But at all these are just little mini

1006
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 2: appetizers with the injured Blackhawks as they are. This is

1007
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 2: all little appetizers and little nibbles that lead us to

1008
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,280
Speaker 2: a Saturday showdown with the Stars, which is gonna be awesome.

1009
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 3: Your Vikings have a new punter.

1010
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 6: And now Johnny Hecker's in the game to punt. Now,

1011
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 6: you gotta be careful with Johnny Pecker. John all right,

1012
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 6: three two, you gotta be all right, three two, You

1013
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 6: gotta be careful with Johnny Hecker.

1014
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 3: Uh what a what a slip?

1015
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 2: But no, it was just funny and they trying to

1016
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 2: say Hecker passes turned into turned into that turned into

1017
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 2: radio gold.

1018
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 3: That isn't leaving.

1019
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 2: Now he's on our team, so we have to have

1020
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 2: Johnny Hecker on the show.

1021
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 3: He is here to heave and to hold.

1022
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 2: He does throw fifteen to twenty six, a buck ninety three.

1023
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 3: Through the air, had a touchdown his rookie season.

1024
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 2: But I think the key to this and pretty good

1025
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 2: punter for the most part, spent many years a decade

1026
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 2: with the Saint Louis Slash La Rams. He's here to hold.

1027
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,720
Speaker 2: So our specialist battery is complete. From Andrew de Paula.

1028
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 2: He'll snap it to Johnny Hecker and Will Reiker from

1029
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,720
Speaker 2: fifty plus the field goal is good.

1030
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: And then lastly your Wolves winners as well in antless Wolves.

1031
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: He's going to be out for a little while one

1032
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: sixteen one oh four of the final over the Suns

1033
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: at Target Center. But also in the last hour, the

1034
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: Timberrolves recalled Baron Ja from the Iowa Wolves. Baron Jay,

1035
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: so he will be back up with your Minnesota Timberwolves.

1036
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're playing Utah tonight, so no rest for

1037
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 2: the victors. And it was a little clompy to start.

1038
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 2: Bones Highland. Bones Highland and Io Desumu were my two

1039
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 2: favorite players on the court last night. Nas Reed doing

1040
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 2: everything that he can with his shoulder bit, but he

1041
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 2: fought through, gave eighteen hard minutes and so and really

1042
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 2: just the defense we've been begging for, and even last

1043
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 2: segment just kind of sarcastically talking about it with Guardsy.

1044
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 2: You saw defensive moments last night that paved the way

1045
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 2: for them to really stifling Jalen Green for the totality

1046
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 2: of that. Booker got his, but just Booker and that

1047
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 2: turned into a w for the Wolves. So beat Utah tonight.

1048
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 2: I mean really just rattle these things off, right, So

1049
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 2: Baron Jay getting moved up and just trying to get

1050
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 2: healthy with this knee thing with Ant. In the meantime,

1051
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 2: while he's gone, set the table, set the table. You

1052
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 2: got that three game buffer to stay out of the

1053
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 2: play in. Let's not just stay out of the play

1054
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 2: and let's beat Utah, beat Portland and hopefully we're game

1055
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 2: for a Sunday afternoon affair against Boston on Sunday.

1056
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 3: There we have it, news denord.

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1058
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Speaker 2: When we return, we're gonna check in with Lavelle Emil,

1059
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Speaker 2: the Third Star Tribune columnist. It is the final hour.

1060
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Speaker 2: It is a vocal maintenance day. Nordo in for Pa

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