Speaker 1: Mac you see this, you hear about this?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: The Jackass crew now has a consolation in the night Skyla?
Speaker 1: What did I say?
Speaker 2: You've got the tea?
Speaker 1: Check the tape. Each member has officially gotten their own star,
Speaker 1: and together the stars create a giant penis. They call
Speaker 1: it the Little Dicker Good.
Speaker 2: I gotta say these days in my lifetime here, I
Speaker 2: guess just life lifetime wouldn't be appropriate. There, maybe over
Speaker 2: my whole lifetime. At this point, I'm not sure I've
Speaker 2: been more jealous than someone just like a normal dude. Like,
Speaker 2: of course I can never be Bardie Bonds, I can
Speaker 2: never be show a Hotani. All these crazy superstar athletes
Speaker 2: musicians throw them on there. But why Jackass is so magical,
Speaker 2: It's because that was all us at one point, or
Speaker 2: aspired to be, Like it was a possibility any of
Speaker 2: us could have been bambarjer or Ryan Johnny Knoxville. And
Speaker 2: so the fact that they have become so successful that
Speaker 2: they have been recognized astronomically off this planet, outside of
Speaker 2: this literal world, they have stars named after them to
Speaker 2: create up a constellation. And what does it form? The
Speaker 2: funniest thing always a giant penis.
Speaker 1: Now I'm not sure if they were given these stars
Speaker 1: or if they did one of those. You make a
Speaker 1: phone call. I want to buy that star. I want
Speaker 1: to buy that star. I want to buy that highway
Speaker 1: type of thing.
Speaker 2: Oh, should we be buying stars? Is it is that
Speaker 2: stars and pokemon and the two things are going to
Speaker 2: the moon.
Speaker 1: You can buy moon.
Speaker 2: The moon is in the stars.
Speaker 1: The moon is in the stars. The moon is a star.
Speaker 1: You can. That's like when people say, oh, a whale's
Speaker 1: a fish, but yeah, you can. That used to be
Speaker 1: able to buy everything back in the day if you
Speaker 1: wanted to stretch of the highway.
Speaker 2: What do you think the people on the moon say
Speaker 2: when things are going to the moon? This? This is
Speaker 2: gonna this is gonna go to the sun.
Speaker 1: It's probably too busy chewing up all that free cheese.
Speaker 1: But let me ask you this, Mac, This is a
Speaker 1: stellar idea, Yeah, an interstellar uring A tough time this episode, guys, real,
Speaker 1: real bad all around it. Do you have enough friends
Speaker 1: that you could have done this?
Speaker 2: Yes? I do?
Speaker 1: Ah man, because I don't, I definitely do. I don't.
Speaker 2: I also like I because of the nature of my job,
Speaker 2: I'm close with a few CLO workers as well. You know,
Speaker 2: home friends, college friends. I have enough I could have
Speaker 2: I've could have done a cock. I could have got
Speaker 2: a cock done for sure?
Speaker 1: What do you think I could do? Like, say, if
Speaker 1: I have four friends, what do you think me and
Speaker 1: my four friends could do a sack?
Speaker 2: Or maybe one side of the shaft.
Speaker 1: I don't want just a sack, a half shaft?
Speaker 2: Max?
Speaker 1: That could be It could be a fucking an alignment
Speaker 1: of stars.
Speaker 2: We should buy a constellation and call it Max Sack.
Speaker 1: How many stars do we need for Max Sack?
Speaker 2: It's a great We gotta find a good cluster. I'll
Speaker 2: start searching for clusters.
Speaker 1: Also, do you buy stars or do you adopt them?
Speaker 2: I don't know. You're the one that told me.
Speaker 1: But also, if you're adopting a dog, don't you still
Speaker 1: have to pay for the dog? A one time fie
Speaker 1: a one time fee when you adopt something, it's a
Speaker 1: one time fee. If I own a star, I would
Speaker 1: then let people rent the star. Is that something that
Speaker 1: we can start doing?
Speaker 2: You might be something here. Hey, I bought the star
Speaker 2: for three dollars. It could be yours for one night
Speaker 2: a week for ten cents.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing I am never gonna own a house
Speaker 1: in my life unless it is given to me because
Speaker 1: I can't afford anything.
Speaker 2: We might be stumbling upon it here Goo for next
Speaker 2: Valentine's Day. I'm gonna buy my girlfriend a star. You're
Speaker 2: gonna buy your wife a star. There's nothing greater. It's celestial.
Speaker 1: But then we need to make money from it.
Speaker 2: Gotta figure out I make money off.
Speaker 1: I own three stars. I have three certificates saying I
Speaker 1: own these stars. How do I make money from this?
Speaker 2: One? Good? Three?
Speaker 1: Yeah, job three? King of quam Mill Street Entertainment, I'm
Speaker 1: good and we are the Mac and Goo program. We
Speaker 1: bring you dull colored friendship.
Speaker 2: Okay, sure, sure, I don't. I don't like your attitude.
Speaker 1: Well no, that's the color palette of the movie, and
Speaker 1: I don't. Some people are a little harsher on this movie.
Speaker 1: And you know what they say, Cream rises to the top.
Speaker 2: Oh you know what. The bad guy's name of this goo.
Speaker 1: Is Krem Krem. Crem Della Krem Krem rises to the
Speaker 1: Crem City is what the Milwaukee Bucks.
Speaker 2: Are in this movie. Also, sorry, Crem eats a pie,
Speaker 2: but there was no Crem pies.
Speaker 1: So like cream rising to the top, Yeah, negative reviews
Speaker 1: get the most clicks. Sure, so while this might be
Speaker 1: floating around a sixty percent on roddy Te's, which is
Speaker 1: what it is right now, the more hateful reviews are
Speaker 1: gonna be the one that pop up on your timeline.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is falling victim to two things predominantly here Goo.
Speaker 2: As we've seen in Marvel, the female led films get
Speaker 2: absolutely lamb basted by a certain percentage of the population.
Speaker 2: Now that's happening here as well. It happened with Wonder Woman,
Speaker 2: it happens in general. Additional to that is and this
Speaker 2: there is a big overlapping percentage of folks here who
Speaker 2: still think Zack Snyder deserves his DCU, and so those
Speaker 2: people are gonna lampoon every DCU.
Speaker 1: They also don't like James Gunn. There are some people
Speaker 1: that don't like James Gunn. Yeah, and so then you
Speaker 1: have that they want gun control. They're saying the gun
Speaker 1: is jammed.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of things working against it, including the
Speaker 2: fact that you know, this is also a hero that's
Speaker 2: not that popular. So there's a number of things at
Speaker 2: work here, Goo. And then outside of the dc in
Speaker 2: the supergrowth centric stuff, it is also going up against
Speaker 2: Toy Story five, a juggernaut at the theater, no chance,
Speaker 2: and so it's just a bunch of factors that have
Speaker 2: led to it. In general, underwhelming response to this movie,
Speaker 2: but for you and I go I almost felt once
Speaker 2: we saw the reaction, I was totally surprised to the
Speaker 2: Roddy t score. But I'm I'm like, did we watch
Speaker 2: a different movie? Because this is a generally enjoyable movie.
Speaker 2: I might agree that. Okay, you don't necessarily have to
Speaker 2: see it in the theaters, which hurts it number one,
Speaker 2: but it's a generally good theater experience. The characters are good. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the story is nothing unique, but I mean how and again,
Speaker 2: I might be the simpleton here. If you give me
Speaker 2: a story in story notes and themes that I like,
Speaker 2: I'll watch that over and over and over and again
Speaker 2: if I like the characters.
Speaker 1: Friend of the podcast, Wesley Burho asked me, said, is
Speaker 1: this a movie that I need to go on Friday
Speaker 1: night to see? Or can I wait for the discounted
Speaker 1: price on two Tuesday? And I said, the discounted price
Speaker 1: on Tuesday might be that baby Bear Porridge.
Speaker 2: That's a good one for it. I think that this
Speaker 2: is a perfect six dollars Tuesday movie. Whether whether we
Speaker 2: like it or whether DC likes it or not.
Speaker 1: Who gets the money for that?
Speaker 2: I'm assuming the theater doesn't get much of that ticket money.
Speaker 2: They're trying to get people in the door to sell
Speaker 2: the snack scoop, which you will not be buying. You're
Speaker 2: going to be bringing your own burritos.
Speaker 1: If we own a star and we see someone outside
Speaker 1: with a telescope, we can get them arrested. Right.
Speaker 2: I think we get a tenth of a penny per scope.
Speaker 1: So we need to start going around at night looking
Speaker 1: for people on telescopes.
Speaker 2: Do you scope a scope? Do you need a scope
Speaker 2: to scope the scope?
Speaker 1: I'd have binocular cyscope, so you go buyos over buyos,
Speaker 1: but at night you need the green buyos night googles. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'll tell you what Paris Hilton was
Speaker 1: ahead of her time. But also I have a telescope.
Speaker 2: Splinter cell fan.
Speaker 1: I live in Boston. Yeah, brag that light pollution. You
Speaker 1: can't see Dickett.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're in the city limits.
Speaker 1: You're in Boston, proper, I can't see anything. It's not
Speaker 1: even worth owning a telescope.
Speaker 2: Does that massive hotel block your view of the city
Speaker 2: or is that off to the side.
Speaker 1: It's off to the side, but when you look at
Speaker 1: the sky it's just fog.
Speaker 2: Goo. Supergirl is a PG thirteen action adventure drama in
Speaker 2: sci fi subgenres of that. DC has now made it
Speaker 2: into IMDb as an official genre.
Speaker 1: D That makes sense. Now we're a little more in
Speaker 1: your face than that Marvel garbage.
Speaker 2: We also have space, sci fi and Superhero. This is
Speaker 2: a run time of one hundred and seven minutes. The
Speaker 2: box office projection GOO for this week the optimistic one
Speaker 2: fifty five million, pessimistic forty million, uh and it is
Speaker 2: trending to make only one hundred and fifty to two
Speaker 2: hundred million domestically. I don't have the worldwide number, so
Speaker 2: this is trending in the Mandoin grogu section, which is
Speaker 2: not good.
Speaker 1: My hand is up, Yeah, go ahead, I would hammer
Speaker 1: the under a yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I think it's gonna make like forty five.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go you ready for this price is right?
Speaker 1: Twenty five million?
Speaker 2: Well, these weren't the initial projection schoo. These are the
Speaker 2: tempered ones off the initial preduction.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tamper it even further.
Speaker 2: All right, I think you just lost some money. But
Speaker 2: that's a nice bet for you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lose my star. I'm gonna wager my star
Speaker 1: on it.
Speaker 2: Good odds there gou action adventure, drama, sci fi. There's
Speaker 2: not a ton of drama here because you know how
Speaker 2: it's gonna kind of play out. But I think they
Speaker 2: did the action adventure in sci fi. Well, I think
Speaker 2: those all three of those they checked the box for.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're all in space, we're all racing across the galaxy.
Speaker 1: We're trying to find the bad guy to get the antidote.
Speaker 2: I should have looked up the budget for this movie.
Speaker 2: It seems like based on how much money it's gonna make,
Speaker 2: this could end up losing money. Not great being the
Speaker 2: second cinematic entry into James Guns DCU, but it's also
Speaker 2: again all those factors, and I don't think anyone thought
Speaker 2: the Supergirl movie was gonna be the one that made
Speaker 2: the DCU.
Speaker 1: I was also hoping going into this and it would
Speaker 1: make just enough money to not fail further the story,
Speaker 1: which I think it did, and not off road what
Speaker 1: Gun is doing. But it might not, but it also
Speaker 1: might there's a yeah, that's nice.
Speaker 2: It is teetering on two of those three things. I
Speaker 2: agree with you there on Roddy teazgo the aforementioned score
Speaker 2: of fifty seven from the critics. We don't have an
Speaker 2: audience score yet because we're recording prior to this movie
Speaker 2: being out. Braack for us huh oh.
Speaker 1: We put out a little tease. Yeah, oh, let us know,
Speaker 1: let us know. Do you want us to do more
Speaker 1: of that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? You want more?
Speaker 1: Or dervs, We're only going to give you, like five
Speaker 1: six from hors to wares. Take it easy. We're only
Speaker 1: gonnave you five or six minutes. I feel like this
Speaker 1: is something that you might want. Sure if you do,
Speaker 1: let us know. If you don't respond, we'll probably still
Speaker 1: do it anyway.
Speaker 2: I think it's good for these in between movies. For
Speaker 2: the six dollars Tuesday Movies. One hundred and fifty two
Speaker 2: critic reviews, so most critics have seen it, reviewed it already,
Speaker 2: and they're basically telling you it's okay, it's not great,
Speaker 2: not bad, there's nothing new.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you loved Superman, this is flip it on
Speaker 1: its head and reverse it.
Speaker 2: He's yeh, go on Metacritic of fifty, so that's pretty low.
Speaker 2: The fifty seven percent I somewhat expected. The fifty is
Speaker 2: pretty low. I was expecting like low sixties, mid sixties
Speaker 2: for this, which would be solid, not great. So I
Speaker 2: does feel like they've got a bone to pick here
Speaker 2: because I don't think this I think this movie is
Speaker 2: better than that. Speaking of the creators of the movie, Goo,
Speaker 2: this is written by Anna Nogera, and we don't know
Speaker 2: her Goo. She's new. She was initially hired by Warner
Speaker 2: Brothers in twenty twenty two to write a spinoff for
Speaker 2: the Sasha Kali version that's the version of the character
Speaker 2: Supergirl from The Flash, and then when gun and Saffron
Speaker 2: came on, they were so impressed with her work and
Speaker 2: how she was adapting the source material they kept her
Speaker 2: on for the new Supergirl script.
Speaker 1: Does it concern you still that James Gunn said the Flash,
Speaker 1: which we didn't hate, but he said, it's one of
Speaker 1: the best superhero movies of all time.
Speaker 2: I told you that's where we started to turn on
Speaker 2: them a little bit. You can't just don't.
Speaker 1: Lie to us once again for a movie having a
Speaker 1: titular character and twins that we hate. It's about as
Speaker 1: good as you could have done.
Speaker 2: Agreed, totally agree there and Twins. Go Anna Nogera is
Speaker 2: currently tasked with writing two more upcoming movies in the DCU,
Speaker 2: although one might be a show, but it's teen Titans
Speaker 2: and Wonder Woman. I don't know if we're getting a
Speaker 2: Titans movie or not, but she's tasked with those two scripts.
Speaker 2: I didn't have an issue. So there was that Variety
Speaker 2: article calling this the worst written movie like ever, that
Speaker 2: it's nowhere, no person. I don't even have an issue
Speaker 2: with the writing. It's a bit lazy, but she's adapting
Speaker 2: a comic. Who do you want?
Speaker 1: You know what something like this might do is it
Speaker 1: might push the studio to tell James Gunn use characters
Speaker 1: people already know, or.
Speaker 2: You do those stuff, or you hire notable guys.
Speaker 1: Do Wonder Woman next? Give us Batman, give us Batman again,
Speaker 1: give us another Batman, and I think more Batman.
Speaker 2: I think some of that attitude is resonating with a
Speaker 2: lot of people and now seeping into people's feelings amongst
Speaker 2: other stuff, because it's hard to build up this universe
Speaker 2: without your Batman. I think people are like, where's my Batman?
Speaker 2: It's my Batman. I need it now.
Speaker 1: Also, what Superman had as an advantage over this movie
Speaker 1: is it was allowed to start in the middle tell
Speaker 1: a story and not do the origin story because we
Speaker 1: have seen the origin to Superman fifty times. While we
Speaker 1: knew what the origin to Kara was, many people don't.
Speaker 1: So they had to explain you don't know, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: So they had to explain why she's different than Superman,
Speaker 1: and they had to take twenty minutes of the movie
Speaker 1: that some might find a little tedious. I liked it,
Speaker 1: Mac liked it, but some might find it a little tea.
Speaker 2: I don't know shit about Supergirl, so I liked it.
Speaker 1: There we go. But they did have to detour from
Speaker 1: the story to go and do that.
Speaker 2: And again, that's also a thing you see in a
Speaker 2: million times where all right, we're forty minutes in, let's
Speaker 2: do a ten minute flashback to explain why this person
Speaker 2: is the way.
Speaker 1: How would you feel if instead of them doing the flashback,
Speaker 1: they just started the movie with text and they told
Speaker 1: you and then you had to read.
Speaker 2: No. What I hated that The director of this movie
Speaker 2: is Craig Gillespie, who's had a very interesting directing career.
Speaker 2: You would know him from the American classic Mister Woodcock
Speaker 2: from Ott seven.
Speaker 1: Woodcock is not my favorite movie. I know that you
Speaker 1: were insinuating that.
Speaker 2: But he also directed millen million Dollar arm I Tanya,
Speaker 2: which was fantastic. I loved Cruella, which I think did
Speaker 2: a lot better than we expected. He also directed Dumb Money,
Speaker 2: which was sneaky good.
Speaker 1: I didn't like Dumb Money.
Speaker 2: Oh, I liked it.
Speaker 1: I didn't like Dumb Money. I think I preferred Mister Woodcock,
Speaker 1: starring Billy Bob Thornton, Stiffler and Ethan Suplee and Thelman,
Speaker 1: Louise Somelma Blair. No, Thelman, Louise Redhead.
Speaker 2: Oh, Susan Sarandon, Susan Sarandon, you know where would you
Speaker 2: know Susan Sarandon from.
Speaker 1: Go Ahead, Go Ahead, No, go Ahead? Step Mom, Stepmom? Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, you got me? Fine, great movie. Brea to
Speaker 1: your eye, maybe not my eye. I don't give a
Speaker 1: shit about Stepmom's a.
Speaker 2: Different step Mom movie than a lot of people were
Speaker 2: expecting to see. Too.
Speaker 1: Oh no, she got caught in the dryer again.
Speaker 2: Good upcoming for Craig Gillespie. Here's something called Archie Is
Speaker 2: that from the Archie comics.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure you know what I'm going to assume.
Speaker 1: So because Disney has a little thing with them, there
Speaker 1: you go, not Disney w B doll Confuse what DC.
Speaker 2: Caillespie is also directing forty two point six Years, which
Speaker 2: I think we've seen a teaser for or something like that.
Speaker 1: Is that the Andy Sanmdberg One, Yes, yeah, so we
Speaker 1: haven't seen a teaser. We saw a clip in Florence Pugh,
Speaker 1: him and Florence Pew on a bike.
Speaker 2: That's what it was, and I think we briefly talked
Speaker 2: about it during the movie.
Speaker 1: It's an interesting concept because he gets frozen and then
Speaker 1: tries to find the love of his life but she
Speaker 1: is now old.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. So Craig Gillespie directing that synopsis
Speaker 2: of Supergirl Carra Zrel aka Supergirl joins forces with an
Speaker 2: unlikely companion on an interstellar journey of vengeance and justice
Speaker 2: when an unexpected adversary strikes too close to home.
Speaker 1: Here's what I think people have an issue, and it's
Speaker 1: in that synopsis. This is the same synopsis to like
Speaker 1: ten movies that have come out in the last seven
Speaker 1: eight years. The Interstellar part you could literally just take
Speaker 1: out names and move like that is that's doctor strange
Speaker 1: multiverse of me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know what, but this is this is
Speaker 2: better than that movie. Number one.
Speaker 1: That's because you are promised less. That's the only reason
Speaker 1: why is because you're promised less.
Speaker 2: This this has uh some of those like key Western
Speaker 2: themes of revenge, Like they talk about true grit being
Speaker 2: an inspiration for this movie and has a lot of that.
Speaker 2: It also has a lot of stuff we've seen before,
Speaker 2: which is fine, but that's what keeps it from being
Speaker 2: great of course, and you know something people are gonna
Speaker 2: run home and tell their friends to see. But it
Speaker 2: doesn't make it bad because everything we've seen, like do you.
Speaker 1: Have like what is this? I don't talk to my
Speaker 1: friends about anything. Are we even friends anymore?
Speaker 2: This movie stars Millie Alcock as carroz or laka super Girl.
Speaker 2: I liked her, Yeah, she was very good, good to great.
Speaker 2: In fact, Eve Ridley as Ruthie. That's the little girl
Speaker 2: that's along, She's the unlikely companion. She's the grogu Goo.
Speaker 2: Matthias showing arts as Krem He's the bad guy and
Speaker 2: he's a really bad guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so if you like complex villains where you're
Speaker 1: saying to yourself, do I side with them? Do they
Speaker 1: have a point? This guy I don't even think has
Speaker 1: a plan. He's just a bad person.
Speaker 2: If you like people that rape, rob and pillage, this
Speaker 2: is a villain if you.
Speaker 1: Are into vikings, if you are into pirates, we're in
Speaker 1: space and that's what we're doing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's also be dazzled.
Speaker 1: So if you like that too, that that was actually
Speaker 1: one of my favorite not my favorite parts, but there's
Speaker 1: a little joke of like like a head butt and
Speaker 1: then you get the bedazzled on your face.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like that. I like that they came off.
Speaker 2: I'd like to know how he acquires them.
Speaker 1: Also, do you want to do that to your face?
Speaker 1: Is that what you're telling me?
Speaker 2: Be interesting? On my head? Though? As a fellow bowl oh.
Speaker 1: I noticed that you got a you got hair transplants. No,
Speaker 1: those are beads. Those are silver beads.
Speaker 2: I walked into the adult section at the video store
Speaker 2: and they just stuck to my head. Good Jason Human
Speaker 2: disco Ball jasonam Jason Momoa as Lobo. I'll say this,
Speaker 2: if you're listening to this point and you haven't seen
Speaker 2: this movie and you're thinking about seeing it for Lobo reasons,
Speaker 2: you're gonna be a little disappointed. He's really in like
Speaker 2: one and a half two scenes.
Speaker 1: Also, I would have taken one of those half scenes away.
Speaker 1: I think you got a little too much Lobo because
Speaker 1: he just does the same thing over and over again.
Speaker 2: But I think I would have added a scene so
Speaker 2: they facing Lobo over Aquaman as a fit.
Speaker 1: Yes, Like my wife said to me, why is he
Speaker 1: in this movie after he was Aquaman? Why is he
Speaker 1: a new character? And I said, first off, different timelines,
Speaker 1: read a book. Second off, if you look at a
Speaker 1: photo of this character, it is Jason Momoa.
Speaker 2: If you look at a photo and the like character
Speaker 2: traits match him and what.
Speaker 1: He's motorcycle, laughing, throwing hooks. Yes, yes, it's all stuff
Speaker 1: that we've seen Momoa do on the Jimmy Fallon show.
Speaker 2: Gou Also in this, of course, is David corn Sweat
Speaker 2: as Superman. He's mostly there on a screen. He he
Speaker 2: facetimes in a couple of times, he's he does He's
Speaker 2: there for a reason.
Speaker 1: I love this character though I love him as Superman.
Speaker 2: I totally agree, totally agree, David Crumholtz plays Kara's Father's I.
Speaker 1: Have no idea he was in this movie.
Speaker 2: I thought I did, I don't remember. He's good. He's
Speaker 2: good in the flashbacks Emily beacham Placer, her mother Alora Zarel,
Speaker 2: and then we also have some notable characters here Goo
Speaker 2: Ruthie's family is played by Ferdinand Kingsley. That's Elias the Swordmaker.
Speaker 2: Her mother's played by Emily Pigford, her brothers Bruce Lennox,
Speaker 2: and then go the couple to Lissa to Schera as
Speaker 2: Marek Vrand and Kadif Krouan as bomarv Ran. So that's
Speaker 2: all you really need to know character wise for this movie.
Speaker 2: Go in this universe and James Gunn's DCU. This is
Speaker 2: technically I think the fourth entry. We have Creature Commandos,
Speaker 2: Superman and Peacemaker season two.
Speaker 1: But parts of season one.
Speaker 2: Count, like eight seconds of season one count. I think
Speaker 2: the hey, here's what you missed at the beginning of
Speaker 2: season two that I think that all counts. So this
Speaker 2: would be the fourth entry. And if you remember at
Speaker 2: the end of Peacemaker season two, which came out post Superman.
Speaker 2: End of Superman, we see Lex locked up, YadA YadA.
Speaker 2: Peacemaker season two has the company Argus, which is run
Speaker 2: by Rick Flagg Senior. They utilize Lex and his tech
Speaker 2: guy whose name escapes me, to make use of peacemakers
Speaker 2: Porto technology, and with that they put Chris aka Peacemaker
Speaker 2: on that planet Salvation trap him there, that's really real release.
Speaker 1: They trap them with the Peppermint Twins and.
Speaker 2: Then go next up in this universe, we're looking forward
Speaker 2: to Lanterns, a HBO Max show August. I think it's July.
Speaker 1: July, so they just started Game of Thrones. I think
Speaker 1: Lanterns is after Game of Thrones.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, probably, yeah, probably right.
Speaker 1: So it's eight episode run question Mark.
Speaker 2: So then we get Lanterns, and then in October, I
Speaker 2: believe we're getting Clayface. Cinematically someone's talking about him cutting
Speaker 2: off his eyelids with scissors. Uh so this this will
Speaker 2: be They're gonna need those two to land. I'm not
Speaker 2: questioning where they're going or gun at all until maybe
Speaker 2: those two flop. If that happens, then we're like, okay,
Speaker 2: we have three good, three not so good. Let's see
Speaker 2: where we are. But I want to underscore here. Yes,
Speaker 2: this movie is not the most creative. However, it takes
Speaker 2: a character that no one really cares about, it makes
Speaker 2: her endearing, makes her good.
Speaker 1: I think some people do care about her because she
Speaker 1: got that television show for a while.
Speaker 2: Oh, Melissa Benoist from.
Speaker 1: Yeah please oh to the critics, and I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: poke it because we are critics. That's what we are.
Speaker 1: Mac you and I were critics, Yeah, just like John Lovets.
Speaker 1: But to the people that are like that makes you
Speaker 1: miss the nineteen eighty four movie, shut that up, your butt,
Speaker 1: shut up? Yeah, kick, No, that movie stinks. Don't uh
Speaker 1: this movie makes you miss No, it doesn't. That is
Speaker 1: such a garbage statement.
Speaker 2: Before we get to the Gauntlet, and before we spoil
Speaker 2: this movie, I just want to underscore once.
Speaker 1: Again, stop underscoring shit.
Speaker 2: If you like classic superhero movies and classic superhero themes
Speaker 2: where you have a really bad guy and it's oh,
Speaker 2: will this hero do this to save so and so,
Speaker 2: you're gonna like this. It's a classic thing. It's not new,
Speaker 2: it's not unique, it's not groundbreaking. But if you give
Speaker 2: me good, good characters with good action sequences and a
Speaker 2: fun soundtrack, I'm probably gonna like the movie you.
Speaker 1: Your blurb on the DVD is just it's not new,
Speaker 1: it's not groundbreaking whatever, and then just thumbs up, one
Speaker 1: thumbs up, one thumb I'd like a bunch of thumbs here.
Speaker 1: Should we do our nonagon?
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Fun factor. I had a little bit of fun with
Speaker 1: Supergirl early as she deals with her off planet difficulties,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't until we got some of the action
Speaker 1: at the end that I was kicked up to that
Speaker 1: next fun level. So it didn't have a ton of fun.
Speaker 2: It didn't have a ton It had enough.
Speaker 1: I'd say enough fun, and I do. Like when Superman shows.
Speaker 2: Up, they're all, he didn't really show up.
Speaker 1: When he shows out, don't trick.
Speaker 2: The folks into thinking.
Speaker 1: I love the twenty c He shows up in the
Speaker 1: background of every scene and he does something cool every
Speaker 1: single I think.
Speaker 2: The action was fun here. I laughed all that twice one.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure sure they intended, but it was hilarious.
Speaker 2: So it's fun. It's fun enough.
Speaker 1: That's a good point by you. It's not as funny
Speaker 1: as they think it is. That's true to which that
Speaker 1: might hurt it.
Speaker 2: That's where you needed maybe gun to copen this, not
Speaker 2: leave it up to just No Garret and have him
Speaker 2: write a little bit of it.
Speaker 1: I feel like when someone said, hey, could you punch
Speaker 1: up this script, they thought add more punching scenes as
Speaker 1: opposed to write jokes. Yeah, that's a really fucking stupid thing.
Speaker 1: I just said, we're this is one of our work.
Speaker 1: We're not having a good time satisfactor. While the movie
Speaker 1: on the whole not the most satisfying, I do like
Speaker 1: the conclusion.
Speaker 2: The resolution of this movie I found incredibly satisfying. And
Speaker 2: to me, the big market teas of this movie is like, Okay,
Speaker 2: she's very much liked Superman in a lot of ways,
Speaker 2: but her decision making is much different.
Speaker 1: Power wise similar, Yeah, and it leans too lively more.
Speaker 2: Satisfying conclusions, and I want heroes with this power. I
Speaker 2: wish it was even more fantastic what happens. But I
Speaker 2: was very pleased with the resolution between Supergirl and Kremp Borometer.
Speaker 1: I thought it had a consistent level to it. And
Speaker 1: if you think that level is kind of boring, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna argue with you, but I don't think it
Speaker 1: had any big dips.
Speaker 2: No, I agree it was the pulse was good on.
Speaker 1: This, maybe for the flashbacks, but once again they needed
Speaker 1: the flashback.
Speaker 2: They're necessary for this and to round out Clark aka
Speaker 2: Superman's story Halloween.
Speaker 1: Will this movie wane over time, and there is a possibility,
Speaker 1: but I think that Mac out of spite is gonna
Speaker 1: like it more.
Speaker 2: I have found myself, in general, liking these female led
Speaker 2: superhero movies more than the general public. And yes some
Speaker 2: have waned weaned over time, but but I feel like
Speaker 2: I still like Wonder Woman with the appropriate critiques, is
Speaker 2: still an enjoyable experience, and I can't away thinking like
Speaker 2: this is not that far from that. I might have
Speaker 2: liked it more than that.
Speaker 1: This goes you like a good ending, Yeah, exactly, a
Speaker 1: quater world. Is this better or worse than the nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety five classic water World? It's better when life gives
Speaker 1: you plemons. He takes a role and says, this is mine.
Speaker 1: No matter how small it is, you're gonna remember it forever.
Speaker 1: Who did that? Who said I'm Jesse Plemmons in this
Speaker 1: movie and made you say, hey, now hey, now.
Speaker 2: This is a mad so you could say Momoa's Lobo.
Speaker 2: It wasn't my favorite. I thought Crumbolts as Zorrel was great.
Speaker 1: Hey, he was good.
Speaker 2: He made plemonade in his what.
Speaker 1: Three scenes Max Credit Union.
Speaker 2: So this one is a little tougher. And this is
Speaker 2: where I'm thinking, you know, the standout factor for this
Speaker 2: movie is lacking in both. Maybe the performance Millie Alcock
Speaker 2: was very good to great, but it's not going to
Speaker 2: keep you coming back. And there's also as good as
Speaker 2: the action scenes were, there's nothing that's like, oh, you
Speaker 2: gotta see it for this. So I'll give credit to
Speaker 2: Alcock for delivering on the role. And I think like
Speaker 2: definitively better than what we saw in the flash from
Speaker 2: what's her name? Sasha kale Kalie, I don't even know
Speaker 2: how to say her last name. But I also want
Speaker 2: to point out here that Eve Ridley, the younger teenageish girl,
Speaker 2: she belonged, She didn't get in the way. She was
Speaker 2: pretty good.
Speaker 1: Pants ten City Excite, bike Mania? What got you going
Speaker 1: from this flick? I enjoy seeing Supergirl rag dolling people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple of great action scenes, but once again,
Speaker 2: the pants tent for me here is at that conclusion,
Speaker 2: the resolution what happens there. I was tremendously satisfied by For.
Speaker 1: Those of you tarnet to the Mac and Goop party,
Speaker 1: we rate everything on a forty hot dog rating system.
Speaker 2: Mac.
Speaker 1: I thought this was a pretty good DC world builder.
Speaker 1: I wonder full counter to the bright, optimistic Superman. This side,
Speaker 1: we're looking at dull colors. We're looking at off planet.
Speaker 1: We're looking at her with a much more jaded attitude.
Speaker 1: Millie Alcock was great. I enjoyed having a villain. It's
Speaker 1: not I don't want this every time, but every once
Speaker 1: in a while a villain that just purely sucks and
Speaker 1: there's nothing more to it. You don't like him, and
Speaker 1: he's doing bad, bad things.
Speaker 2: And on that note, good too. There has been, as
Speaker 2: we said, a lot of criticisms about the lack of
Speaker 2: depth in the villain for someone's first movie, first adventure.
Speaker 2: Totally fine having a faceless villain to just defeat. It's
Speaker 2: a stepping stone on to greater things.
Speaker 1: It wasn't as much Guardians as the trailer made it
Speaker 1: look to be. I've seen a lot of people comparing
Speaker 1: it to more of a mad Max. I am seeing that.
Speaker 1: I love it. Well, don't say too much. David corn
Speaker 1: sweat popping up every once in a while is Superman.
Speaker 1: But I will say this, I am sick of the
Speaker 1: kid sidekick Slash. They are now pulling the reluctant hero
Speaker 1: along with them. I'm I've just seen this too many
Speaker 1: times and I don't need this really anymore. I liked Momoa.
Speaker 1: I would have liked maybe one or two scenes less
Speaker 1: give me that one or two action scenes and that's
Speaker 1: really all we need there and then the conclusion. While
Speaker 1: I like where we end up, and we'll talk about
Speaker 1: this in spoilers, I'm just curious about the bad guy
Speaker 1: planning Slash, then convenience of how she is able to
Speaker 1: step forward.
Speaker 2: Yeah, understood, goo. Where do you have it? Hot Dog
Speaker 2: wise thirty two? Okay, yep, pretty reasonable. So that's B minus. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: uh goo. I am thinking about this and I've already
Speaker 2: framed it this way, and I think it's naturally, you know,
Speaker 2: normal to compare this to the prior female led superhero
Speaker 2: movies because.
Speaker 1: It's because you're a one track brain.
Speaker 2: But they're facing a lot of the same criticisms. So
Speaker 2: with that in mind, I'm talking about Captain Marvel, the
Speaker 2: Marvel Wonder Woman, and Birds of Prey for the more
Speaker 2: notable ones over the last decade plus. I think I
Speaker 2: liked this movie as much as any of those, maybe
Speaker 2: more so. With that in consideration. I gave Captain Marvel
Speaker 2: thirty three, that might have come down a dog or two.
Speaker 2: I gave the Marvels thirty four, which I still don't
Speaker 2: know why that didn't do all that well. Wonder Woman.
Speaker 2: I gave it thirty four, which maybe has come down
Speaker 2: one or two as well, and Birds of Prey at
Speaker 2: twenty seven. So I think this is right in that range,
Speaker 2: like thirty three, thirty four, and again, maybe that's lazy
Speaker 2: on my end, not comparing it to those, but it
Speaker 2: just seems natural to do that. My main criticism of
Speaker 2: the movie is that when James Gunn hit with Guardians
Speaker 2: of the Galaxy, it was somewhat similar outset a character,
Speaker 2: especially there. It's not as much here a character no
Speaker 2: one is really tied to. Everyone knows Supergirl, but no
Speaker 2: one's claiming Supergirls their favorite hero, So you have the
Speaker 2: ability to take some swings here they did it, and
Speaker 2: Guardians of the Galaxy, with the nameless, faceless feeling like
Speaker 2: grown in stinks, they didn't do it here. They played
Speaker 2: it pretty conservatively. And don't get me wrong, I liked
Speaker 2: what we got, but it was missing that swing at
Speaker 2: the fence here, and I get maybe that's because this
Speaker 2: movie's coming second as opposed to Guardians, which came what
Speaker 2: tenth twelfth in the MCU. So it served. It did
Speaker 2: a good job of being a table setter and a
Speaker 2: world builder. I wanted it to take a couple more swings,
Speaker 2: even one more swing, a big swing. It didn't do that,
Speaker 2: so that's my primary criticism. Secondarily, I wish they either
Speaker 2: made me really like Lobo or had less of them.
Speaker 2: To your point, they kind of middled it a little bit.
Speaker 2: Less would have teased him more. The amount that we
Speaker 2: got I think was intended for you to love him
Speaker 2: and look forward to more outings with him, and I
Speaker 2: didn't feel that way. So ultimately, I think I have
Speaker 2: this at thirty three hot dogs. I like this movie.
Speaker 2: I think it's worth seeing in the theaters. If you don't,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna blame you, and you're also not gonna
Speaker 2: regret it. I don't think.
Speaker 1: I'm also curious too, just looking at box office wise,
Speaker 1: this movie is I think as close to like pushing
Speaker 1: it toward an R without it being an R.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so that might have helped it as well.
Speaker 1: But also I don't think any children are gonna be
Speaker 1: able to go and support, you know this making money,
Speaker 1: like if you have a daughter that you want to
Speaker 1: bring to the female led superhero movie, or like me
Speaker 1: with my son, my son's asked me a couple of times,
Speaker 1: can I go see it? I'm like, you're turning six. No,
Speaker 1: you're not seeing this for probably a handful of years.
Speaker 2: And you know what, once again, they middled it there.
Speaker 2: They missed out on the sweet R stuff and tried
Speaker 2: to do a little bit of it. You end up
Speaker 2: with the PG thirteen but PG thirteen on the high
Speaker 2: end of it. So you're you're not. You can't have
Speaker 2: a six year old seat, you can't have an eight
Speaker 2: year old see it. You know, It's just they in
Speaker 2: a couple of instance says instead of making a decision
Speaker 2: and sticking to something, they tried to do both things,
Speaker 2: and they really middled both.
Speaker 1: Shall we get to spoilers, let's do it spoilers spoilers.
Speaker 1: Spoiler is really only one thing, and it is so
Speaker 1: the final act of the movie, we are taken to
Speaker 1: a planet that has both a yellow and a green sun.
Speaker 1: If the plan was to have Kara die because of
Speaker 1: the green sun, why not pick a planet and maybe
Speaker 1: there are none, Maybe we're fucking stupid. Why would you
Speaker 1: take her to a planet that after twelve hours she'll
Speaker 1: be repowered.
Speaker 2: So here's my answer to that, gu go on her
Speaker 2: coming to in the sunlight, the yellow sun and getting
Speaker 2: her powers back. We all saw coming from a mile
Speaker 2: away and my head, this was Krem and his crew's
Speaker 2: best course of action to protect against someone like Supergirl,
Speaker 2: someone likes Superman. That there isn't a planet that exists
Speaker 2: with just a green sun. So their next best option
Speaker 2: was to have twelve or fourteen hours of coverage.
Speaker 1: They were trying to find her. They were trying to
Speaker 1: have her on the planet, find her and kill her.
Speaker 1: So that is that it wasn't just bring her there
Speaker 1: and just expect her to die. But I'm like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're setting this up for this. That's super convenient.
Speaker 2: I agree, convenient, lackluster from a storytelling standpoint, but I
Speaker 2: also was like, I get it. You don't have to
Speaker 2: like it, but I get it.
Speaker 1: When he created those little pin missiles that had little
Speaker 1: traces of kryptonite, in there. Why didn't he just poison
Speaker 1: her with the same poison that the dog got poisoned with,
Speaker 1: because that's gonna kill or would that not affect her
Speaker 1: because the sun is there?
Speaker 2: Yeah, once the sun was out, I think.
Speaker 1: But when she was on the planet where there was
Speaker 1: a yellow sun, she was still able to be poisoned.
Speaker 1: She had to throw it up so she can be poisoned.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There are obviously questions amongst that stuff,
Speaker 2: And when you introduce that stuff and get into that stuff,
Speaker 2: you're opening yourself up to criticism and with the consistencies.
Speaker 2: I do like, however, that there are some hard and
Speaker 2: fast rules, right red sun, normal, yellow sun, powers, green
Speaker 2: sun death. When it comes to the intermitten stuff, like
Speaker 2: I get, people might be like, well, she could do this,
Speaker 2: but couldn't do this. That's always the case with all
Speaker 2: these heroes and all these movies. You could do it better, surely,
Speaker 2: but it didn't bother me. I guess to the extent
Speaker 2: that it's bothered some other people.
Speaker 1: Do you have anything else in spoilers?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So she kills Krem. She stabs Krem square in
Speaker 2: the chest and then basically slits his throat, which Superman
Speaker 2: would never do in a million years, and I loved it.
Speaker 1: Maybe not in this universe, he did do it in
Speaker 1: the Snyder verse.
Speaker 2: I would have liked to see her laser eye his
Speaker 2: head off. That's what I was really wanting. And again
Speaker 2: that's where like PG. Thirteen, they can only do that.
Speaker 1: When she slit the throat, no blood came out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know how Aliens walks away, but yeah, a
Speaker 1: blast the head would have been sick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would have been And that's what they're missing.
Speaker 2: Sticking with the PG thirteen from R I like the act.
Speaker 2: I wish I could have seen a more grandiose sort
Speaker 2: of performance with the killing, and I liked also this
Speaker 2: was a great small conversation. She talks Ruthie out of it,
Speaker 2: lets Ruthie walk away.
Speaker 1: You don't want to live with this, you don't want
Speaker 1: this burden on your shoulders and going through this and.
Speaker 2: Burden with other things. She's like, I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 2: I'll kill whoever the fuck I want. So that that's
Speaker 2: what makes her really interesting going forward and sets her
Speaker 2: up in a universe. Now she's back at Earth. You
Speaker 2: get I guess not a post credit but kind of
Speaker 2: her at the end of the movie back on Earth
Speaker 2: with Clark and her being a little bit of a
Speaker 2: wild card being as powerful as Superman. I love I
Speaker 2: love having her at play.
Speaker 1: Let's get into Max Sack and Max sac could be anything,
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Speaker 1: Her second one was Shrek. He's super tall and protective.
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Speaker 2: Maybe she'd be interested in an ogre like myself.
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