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Speaker 2: Lavelle in about twenty five minutes or so. Ben Gestling

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Speaker 2: joins now kind of to adjust his schedule because Gerbischmid

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Speaker 2: then tell us about his big announcement on the new

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Speaker 2: interactive ice Bowl bed, breakfast and lunch project that he

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Speaker 2: thinks might change everything for him. So gold out through

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Speaker 2: the first weekend, that's what he tells us. We don't

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Speaker 2: even know that that is indeed true. Guestling, you get

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Speaker 2: any time to unwind here? You get a couple of

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Speaker 2: days or when when do you have to get right

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Speaker 2: back on the hamster wheel?

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Speaker 2: I keep forgetting these days, and I got to pop

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Speaker 2: these callers up. Go right ahead, sir. Sorry.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been a fairly relaxing week for the most part.

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Speaker 4: Hasn't been terribly stressful on the bye week. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's been it's been fairly low key. I think we'll

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Speaker 4: I would imagine we're out there next week. I'll have

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Speaker 4: to check out this bed and breakfast if there's some

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Speaker 4: free time this weekend. I did not hear the big

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Speaker 4: announcement from Gerby, but that sounds very, very high level.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely sounds like something unique. I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: Maybe it'll be exactly one of these ventures has to be. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: sure an entrepreneur. Yeah, he's proven that. That's absolutely true.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you a toss up NFC North question.

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Speaker 2: We're now what the quarter? Will the way through or

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Speaker 2: you know little? I guess less than that with seventeen games,

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Speaker 2: although different teams have played different amounts depending on buy situations.

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Speaker 2: of the division before the season began and whatever that was.

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Speaker 2: Has it substantially changed over the course of this first quarter.

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Speaker 4: don't know that any of these teams has had it

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Speaker 4: The Packers, as good as they looked in those first

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Speaker 4: But my concern has been more on the defensive side

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Speaker 2: What's the Ryan kelly prognosis at this point, do we

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, one of the things that will interest

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of the things

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Speaker 3: It just doesn't work.

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Speaker 1: postseason and getting sweat by the Yankees. But you know,

439
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Speaker 1: James had a great rapport with the players. He's a

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Speaker 1: good motivator, he's a good psychologist, cracks jokes, jokes about

441
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Speaker 1: the opposing picture to make everybody feel a little lighthearted.

442
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Speaker 1: And he's good about, you know, mixing you know, mechanics

443
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Speaker 1: and analytics and all that. And he's he's been, you know,

444
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Speaker 1: he's been on successful teams. He currently is with the Yankees,

445
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 1: of course, who seasoned in it last year. And you know,

446
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Speaker 1: he's the only one I know who was coached both

447
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Speaker 1: a Rod and Aaron Judge. You know, he was a

448
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Speaker 1: bench coach next to Don Manley and with the Marlins.

449
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Speaker 1: He's the assistant hitting coach with Detroit. So, uh, in

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Speaker 1: a lot I think actually I think he I think

451
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Speaker 1: he coached a few of the.

452
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Speaker 3: Guys who are coming of coming to their own now.

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Speaker 1: He was there at the at the beginning for some

454
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Speaker 1: of those guys with with Detroit. So I just think

455
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Speaker 1: he's he's been at enough stops during his career. He's

456
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Speaker 1: got enough experience coaching that he should be given a

457
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Speaker 1: shot to be a manager.

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Speaker 3: So I put him on the list.

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Speaker 1: And uh, I think at least he deserves at least

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Speaker 1: a conversation about the gig. And you know, I think

461
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Speaker 1: he fits the type of a manager that Twin's gonna

462
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Speaker 1: havep hiring someone who doesn't have a lot, a first

463
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Speaker 1: time manager, because I think anybody with some experience, you know,

464
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be looking for like a better situation. The

465
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Speaker 1: Twins could get better in the next two to three years,

466
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Speaker 1: but you know, next year is a rebuilding year, and

467
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Speaker 1: next year, until they tell us differently, it's probably gonna

468
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Speaker 1: be a reduced payroll year. So it's gonna be hard

469
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Speaker 1: to get a credible manager under those situations. So that's

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Speaker 1: why I think that like someone like James Houston, or

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Speaker 1: I think Derek Shelton may come back because he's you know,

472
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Speaker 1: he has knowledge of the organization. He's in a worse

473
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Speaker 1: organization with Pittsburgh before he got Lego, or someone like

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Speaker 1: w garden Hight. So, but yeah, I saw Jim's colum

475
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Speaker 1: and I said, yeah, I think I think James deserves

476
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Speaker 1: a shot here.

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Speaker 2: I think did we We had him on once or twice.

478
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Speaker 2: In fact, what I remember is from a you know,

479
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Speaker 2: journalism standpoint, I was sad when he left because I

480
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Speaker 2: for the next year wanted us to try to maybe

481
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Speaker 2: see if we could get him on occasionally because he

482
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Speaker 2: was fascinating to talk to and a sharp and as

483
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Speaker 2: you've nailed it, it may be that his lack of

484
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Speaker 2: experience means he can't be as selective right about a

485
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Speaker 2: managerial job as opposed to some other individuals. And you know,

486
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Speaker 2: we get it. Everybody's excited about would be, you know,

487
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Speaker 2: the idea of a Tory Hunter or an aj Prazinski

488
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Speaker 2: and all that. This guy's been beating the bushes right.

489
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Speaker 2: He's been doing the job in dugouts with major league

490
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Speaker 2: teams for a while, so I think they should absolutely

491
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Speaker 2: take a look at him for sure. We'll see where

492
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Speaker 2: it goes. Let me ask you a journalism question, a

493
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Speaker 2: journalism on one question. Let's say that Lavelle E. Neil

494
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Speaker 2: the third was writing last night for the Philadelphia Inquirer

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Speaker 2: and you're covering Game four of the nl DS series.

496
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Speaker 2: Eagle he Goles Phillies Dodgers. Phillies have to win to

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Speaker 2: extend the series. It has gone to the eleventh inning,

498
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Speaker 2: and the game ends, and the Phillies season ends on

499
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Speaker 2: an utterly boneheaded decision by the starting pitcher. I think

500
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Speaker 2: it's is it Kirkering? I think that's his name, who

501
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Speaker 2: bobbles ball gets thrown tapped back to him, he bobbles it, panics,

502
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Speaker 2: and instead of still throwing to first because he would

503
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Speaker 2: have had time to do it to end the inning,

504
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Speaker 2: he throws home wildly, not even close to home play,

505
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Speaker 2: where again they'd have to tag the catcher, was gonna

506
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Speaker 2: have to tag the runner. Terrible terrible decision. Postseason is over,

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Speaker 2: does Lovell do a rip job on him or does

508
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Speaker 2: he do the you know, the human the sort of

509
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Speaker 2: the pathos of what that picture will be haunted by

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Speaker 2: for years and years as a result of his bad

511
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Speaker 2: decision and bad play.

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Speaker 3: Well, we see this a.

513
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Speaker 1: Lot in the playoffs, we've seen in the World Series

514
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Speaker 1: before that. Pictures fielding practice that goes on in spring

515
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Speaker 1: training every year. It's totally forgotten sometimes in big moments,

516
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Speaker 1: and uh, I probably would write a story about this.

517
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Speaker 1: Stuff is covered in spring training. It's supposed to last

518
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Speaker 1: throughout the season, and somehow expired at the hands of

519
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Speaker 1: the picture for the Phillies. So I think I would

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Speaker 1: have went a little more towards the sticking the knife

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Speaker 1: into the wound there and kind of twisted it a

522
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Speaker 1: little bit, just because of the gravity of the situation

523
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Speaker 1: and the need for having composure and forward the terrible

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Speaker 1: outcome that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was just a and I'm assuming

526
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Speaker 2: he's got people yelling through the first still got time

527
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Speaker 2: because there still was time one, but he just didn't. Yeah,

528
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Speaker 2: he just looked like he panicked. It just looks like

529
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Speaker 2: he forgot, you know, the basic tenants of of fielding

530
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Speaker 2: the pitch position. That is a very it's not unprecedent,

531
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Speaker 2: as you said, that's a very, very tough way to

532
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Speaker 2: get eliminated in the postseason.

533
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Speaker 1: I'm sure someone I'm sure a couple twa minutes of

534
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Speaker 1: screaming one one one has to throw the first. Yes,

535
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Speaker 1: and uh, it's something lost in the translation between what

536
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Speaker 1: he heard, what was going through his head, and what

537
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Speaker 1: his body was doing. Yeah, and it was. It was

538
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 1: a total system failure at that point for him. And

539
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Speaker 1: he's gotta he's got to own that thing for the

540
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: entire offseason, in the next spring training and the course

541
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Speaker 1: of stories in spring training like what is your learn

542
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Speaker 1: friends situation, Uh, you're gonna pay more attention to PFPS.

543
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: It's it's Philadelphia too, City of Bregley. Shove also means

544
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Speaker 1: you shove with your pen and your keyboard so he's

545
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Speaker 1: got to deal with that.

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Speaker 2: After man, there's absolutely no question about that. Your wild club.

547
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Speaker 2: I think he wrote a preview column on him that

548
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 2: was pretty optimistic. They dominate their opener. They were kind

549
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 2: of dominated in the second period, but the goaltending was great.

550
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 2: They survived that, and then they kind of took over

551
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Speaker 2: the game the rest of the way and they win

552
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 2: it going away five nil. I've I've kind of I

553
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 2: don't know, I'm maybe I'm in trouble with the hockey community.

554
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 2: I often am, but I'm My toughness on this is

555
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Speaker 2: actually I think out of a measure of respect for

556
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Speaker 2: them that I believe this is one of those seasons again,

557
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Speaker 2: where as good as any you know, regular season win

558
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Speaker 2: or series of regular season wins are, we got it

559
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 2: great on a tougher curve. This is the season that

560
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Speaker 2: there's only one way in which success will be measured

561
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Speaker 2: as being worthy of our attention, and that is again,

562
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Speaker 2: and this is a modest goal, getting at least getting

563
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Speaker 2: out of round one. Do you not agree?

564
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, when's the last time I got round Round one?

565
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Speaker 1: Was that twenty fourteen?

566
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Speaker 2: Basically ten years years.

567
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Speaker 1: Yep, And it's been and they've made the playoffs for

568
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Speaker 1: in the last five years and you've got waxed in

569
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Speaker 1: the first round each time. I think that's very reasonable

570
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Speaker 1: to demand from this team. A lot of things are

571
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Speaker 1: demand from this team right now. You know, as long

572
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Speaker 1: as caprice off and they act, don't revisit their injuries

573
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: of a year ago. I mean, you got like the

574
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Speaker 1: chances of this team being better. The fact that you know,

575
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Speaker 1: they had half season of caprice off missed act for

576
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Speaker 1: like with thirty five games or twentieth in the power

577
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Speaker 1: play and thirtieth independently kill and they still finished for

578
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: ninety seven points and reached the postseason. You're kind of thinking,

579
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Speaker 1: what that was kind of a that was kind of

580
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: an interesting year for them. Despite everything that went down,

581
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Speaker 1: they still got the ninety seven points. So this is

582
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Speaker 1: a team that you know, in health is a big

583
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: thing in hockey. You know, these upper embody lower injury things,

584
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: these upper and lower body injuries, you know, can snatch

585
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Speaker 1: good players out on line at any at any time.

586
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Speaker 1: But the expectation for should before these for this team,

587
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Speaker 1: there'd be a one hundred point team at the least

588
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Speaker 1: possibly getting the third is central and get to the

589
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Speaker 1: spot where you can win a first round series, so

590
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Speaker 1: I think that should be the expectation. You know, they

591
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Speaker 1: added terror Saint Cole, They helped with scoring a little bit.

592
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Speaker 1: I think I think he gets surpassed what he did

593
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Speaker 1: last year with Detroit. It seems like he's a good situation.

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Speaker 3: I worry.

595
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Speaker 1: I think the opening night roster had eight players under

596
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Speaker 1: twenty four years old. You know, you got some guys,

597
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: you know, getting thrown to the wolves here, the Wien

598
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: them has got a lot of talent on. People think

599
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Speaker 1: he's gonna be really good, and there's a couple of

600
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Speaker 1: pundits who put him on the kel McCard trajectory, which

601
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Speaker 1: is scary to think of. But he's going to quarterback

602
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Speaker 1: to power play for christ like he's nineteen. You know,

603
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Speaker 1: they're asking a lot for a guy who looked a

604
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Speaker 1: little overwhelmed when they tried them in the playoffs last year.

605
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Speaker 1: And that's all experience he really has. He's got to

606
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Speaker 1: show how much he's grown up and has adapted to

607
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Speaker 1: the speed of the game early on. You know, David

608
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Speaker 1: Jerry Sek, you're off hunter height some of these other

609
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Speaker 1: guy you know, or they have to prove they can

610
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Speaker 1: hold their own and it's gonna be developing going on

611
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: while he's just team's trying to GetUp to a fast start,

612
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Speaker 1: which is not easy to do so, but I like

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Speaker 1: their chances of getting passed one hundred point barrier for

614
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Speaker 1: the reasons that laid out, But yeah, can they go

615
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Speaker 1: the other way? Definitely? Injuries are already a factor on

616
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Speaker 1: this team. They they brought a Nico Stern to help

617
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Speaker 1: with the penalty kill. He's very good in the face

618
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Speaker 1: off circle. And when you are when you on the

619
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Speaker 1: penalty kill, you're taking face offs in your own zone,

620
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Speaker 1: So to be able to win those face offs gets

621
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Speaker 1: you off to a good start on the penalty kill.

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Speaker 1: And now he's out with a back injury, which could

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Speaker 1: be several weeks, and that's troublesom zu Gerrell out provide

624
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Speaker 1: another four to six weeks with his injury, you know

625
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: they got to tread. They have to win without him,

626
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: So you don't want you don't want that bug to

627
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: return like I did a year ago and start pulling

628
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Speaker 1: guys out of the lineup. Then it's gonna make things tougher.

629
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Speaker 1: Every team's gonna go through the same things too, and

630
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Speaker 1: the best team to adapt are the ones that are

631
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Speaker 1: gonna win. But you know, I don't think fans want

632
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Speaker 1: to see caprif Off after cent of that massive contract

633
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Speaker 1: end up being banged up like.

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Speaker 2: It was a year ago. Let's do this, Let's get

635
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Speaker 2: a quick pause in we we'll get caught up, and

636
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Speaker 2: we got a lot more time and a lot more

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Speaker 2: to get to. With Lavelle E. Neil the third, maybe

638
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 2: some college football conversation. Big week for his ALIGNEI, big

639
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Speaker 2: week for my Hoosiers, and homecoming week for the Golden Gophers.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into perhaps some pro football as well. His

641
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: bears are playing, the Packers are playing. There's some nice

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00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 2: matchups even as the Vikings. Wait, and we got that

643
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Speaker 2: brewing quarterback issue that cannot be denied involving the Minnesota

644
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Speaker 2: Vikings due to injury. That becomes part of the story

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Speaker 2: as well. We'll get to all that.

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Speaker 2: Part two with Lavell E Neil the Third, before we

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Speaker 2: go any further, let me correct myself. In the Dodgers

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Speaker 2: Phillies game, the bases were loaded, so there was a

654
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 2: force at home. If he makes a legitimate throw, it

655
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 2: was still a more dangerous play than going to first base.

656
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: I forgot about the runner that had been walked, I

657
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 2: think previously, because I think there was a a base

658
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 2: that wasn't even credit as a stolen base because of

659
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 2: defensive indifference. So a second and third and then a walk,

660
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 2: so the bases were loaded when that play indeed took place.

661
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 3: I still think you should work to first.

662
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, no question, still should have gone to first without

663
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: any doubt because you got the base runner with a

664
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 2: really good jump at that point, Lavel, Which of our

665
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 2: favorite college football teams, in your case Illinois in my case,

666
00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 2: Indiana have a better chance to spring the upset. You're

667
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 2: playing Ohio State. I believe Indiana is playing at Oregon.

668
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 3: What do you think? Well, I don't know, he's at

669
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 3: home nothing that what meann't matter.

670
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 1: But the one thing impressed me about Indiana was one

671
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: a quarterback play. Two I just thought they were more

672
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: athletic and have more speed than the Illinois did when

673
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: they thrashed them a few weeks ago.

674
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 3: So going to.

675
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: Oregon, Oregon's gonna have athletes, They're gonna have speed. I

676
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: don't know how much they can hang on them, but

677
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: it's gonna be intriguing. I'm a little nervous by my Illinois

678
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: team for a couple of reasons. One, the secondary has

679
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: been shaky. Their best I believe defensive back is out

680
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: and so that's an issue. But the bigger problem has

681
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: been the offensive line. They have problems all year run

682
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 1: blocking and protecting the quarterback. And that says a lot.

683
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: Considering Luke Altmeyer, I believe a second. I think he's

684
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: second in the in the conference and yards thrown. He's

685
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: got twelve touchdown passes and no interception. You know he's

686
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: having a great year. But you know, you got to

687
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: deal with that Ohio State defensive front, and I can

688
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: imagine a secondary that could be one of the tougher

689
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 1: ones they've matched this year.

690
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 3: I think the.

691
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: Teams are both teams are in an equal predicament. I

692
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: think the Illinois spreads like fifteen and a half something

693
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: like that. Haven't looked it up lately.

694
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 3: It may have changed.

695
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: What's the spread that gains Indiana Oregon.

696
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 2: Seven seven and a half. In that range, it was

697
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 2: ten and at least. I don't know what it's back

698
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: to today. Earlier in the week it had gone. I

699
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 2: think it had started at ten and was down to

700
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 2: seven and a half. What do we got now?

701
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 7: DraftKings has it Oregon seven point favorites and Ohio State fourteen.

702
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: And a half point favorites. Here's a stat for both.

703
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 2: For you, that's not encouraging, although I'm sure Signetty would

704
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: say bring it on. All time versus Associated Press Top

705
00:35:54,560 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 2: five teams in their history, the Indiana Hoosiers are one

706
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 2: and seventy two. They've dropped forty six in a row

707
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 2: when they've played an Associated Press Top five team. That's

708
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: tied with Wake Forest for the longest top five losing

709
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 2: streak of all time. Not again, you could say none

710
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 2: of that has to do with now. They obviously are

711
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 2: a different program. They've already proven that. But I agree

712
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 2: with what Mace told me Indiana. I mean, look, you're

713
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 2: not supposed to believe in moral victories for Indiana. If

714
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 2: you play this game close and lose, I don't think

715
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 2: you're going to get ripped. I really don't even with

716
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 2: that record. If you go to go to Eugene and

717
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: lose by twenty one or get blown out, you know,

718
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 2: by that or more, and it just doesn't even look

719
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 2: like you belong in the same court, same field, then

720
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 2: I think Indiana'll hear the same old stuff that. Well,

721
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: here it is two years in a row. You know,

722
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: you went to Ohio State and weren't all that competitive.

723
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 2: You played Notre Dame in the playoffs, weren't that competitive either,

724
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 2: even though the score looked better in the end that

725
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 2: it really was. So I think I like Indiana's chances

726
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,919
Speaker 2: to at least make it a ball game. I don't

727
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 2: know if I'm ready to pull the upset, but I

728
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 2: think that's the case. That Bucky's defense, Yeah, which level

729
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 2: is ridiculous. I mean, the high of State defense is

730
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 2: not giving up double digit points this season yet.

731
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 3: No, damn damn.

732
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. And it's gonna be a tall task for

733
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: Illinois with the offensive line that tries to sustain some offense.

734
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: They're hopefully being at home and being front at home

735
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: crowd will help. It's a big weekend there. They've got

736
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 1: a bunch of recruits coming in, so there's some little

737
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: bit on the line here. I'm a little nervous. If

738
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: you bring Vegas odds in to the whole equation, it

739
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: looks like Indiana will have a better chance of coming

740
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: through successfully in Oregon and Illinois at home against Ohio State.

741
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: So I mean, I don't know. If I was gonna

742
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: have fun with a with a parlay, I would take

743
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 1: both teams into points. He's going to keep it close,

744
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: but that that's predicated on Luke Outmeyer finding the end

745
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: zone against the UH A hardly stoppable, unstoppable defense.

746
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 2: That's a great defense.

747
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: It's gonna be entertained. It's gonna be interesting. I at

748
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: least Indiana's at the point now that you could have

749
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: these what if conversations. Yes, I agree, you know, yes,

750
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: they've come a long way in the last couple of

751
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: years mcneenny. And it's like, well, if things break their way,

752
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: it could be their day, you know.

753
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 3: So get up in the.

754
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: Morning, check the weather for cast. Maybe it's some rain

755
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: and play that would help the matters a little bit.

756
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: Fuck it up a little bit and see what happened.

757
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the UH. I don't know what time

758
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 2: your game is the IU Games two thirty. I believe

759
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 2: Gophers are night obviously homecoming against Produce Illino o'clock Big

760
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 2: Moon tomorrow, there's your triple header. Yeap, that's my that's

761
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 2: my college football triple header tomorrow day tomorrow. Then that's perfect.

762
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got wild tomorrow night.

763
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: So I'm.

764
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 3: And the Gopher bounced.

765
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: Back against the hapless Purdue boiling Yeah, I'm trying to say,

766
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: or don't.

767
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: That's not very nice. If okay, if lovel is the

768
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 2: head coach of the Minnesota Vikings, who is he starting

769
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 2: at quarterback a week from this Sunday against the Philadelphia

770
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 2: Eagles High Noon, People Stadium, Downtown Minneapolis.

771
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: Now, I was at Monday's press conference with KOC and

772
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 1: my eyebrows raised as he he kind of had kind

773
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: of had this sexposition of where JJ McCarthy was and

774
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: where Carson Wentz was. First of all, he talked about

775
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: how banged ub Carson Wentz was after the game and

776
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: his non throwing shoulder was pretty sore and it was

777
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 1: gonna be something they're gonna have to monitor.

778
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 3: During the week here. So I'm curious to see.

779
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: On Monday, when I believe Monday's media access, when they

780
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: get updates on how Wentz is doing because in the

781
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: opposite end, they were talking about how much work that

782
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: JJ was gonna put in during the week and how

783
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: much they're gonna drove down on Monday. Since you know

784
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: they've got the bye week, they can really you know,

785
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: drill down on things on Monday and get them get

786
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: their week off to a great start here. So, I mean,

787
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: the way he was talking up, you know, JJ rapping

788
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: up some things, I got the sense they were getting

789
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,280
Speaker 1: ready for him to possibly start against the Philadelphia Eagles.

790
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: So based on that information, uh, I would I would

791
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: put mine. I wouldn't put a big wager. I put

792
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: a little wager down on JJ being behind center on Sunday,

793
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: and I didn't I didn't think that about a week ago.

794
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: I thought they would wait maybe a couple more weeks

795
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,240
Speaker 1: to make sure that ankle was healthy right, and because

796
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: of the offensive line as well, But they didn't have

797
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 1: no choice. If if Wentz's got lingering issues with the

798
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: shoulder going into this week, they may have.

799
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 3: To put the kid out there.

800
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 2: Well they do for the second time. They can hide

801
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 2: behind the injury a little bit like they did with JJ.

802
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: I I don't think they made up the injury. Obviously

803
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 2: McCarthy was hurt, but I don't think they minded sitting

804
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 2: him because of the way he had started through what

805
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 2: seven of his first eight quarters. And they could turn

806
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 2: it the other way now to their advantage and say,

807
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 2: we love what Carson did, but he's banged up. McCarthy's

808
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,439
Speaker 2: now the healthier player. He's gonna be the healthier player,

809
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 2: is gonna be full in practice next week. That that

810
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 2: that could end up going that way. I think Wentz

811
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 2: deserves to start, but you know, and I'm still not

812
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 2: convinced that McCarthy is ready right now to be the guy.

813
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: Now.

814
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: The Eagles have looked very vulnerable the last two weeks.

815
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 2: But does that mean the Vikings are going to get

816
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 2: the vulnerable Eagles or an angry Eagles club that's embarrassed

817
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 2: by all the savagery they're gonna have to deal with

818
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 2: even as a defending Super Bowl champions.

819
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're coming down the fil for pretty hard for

820
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: the lack of the imagination to their offense. Uh, the

821
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 1: Kwan's inability to run the plus Swan's got like an

822
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: issue apparently that he was cleared to play, But I

823
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: wonder I came into play yesterday against the New York Giants,

824
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: you know, because that cost me in my PICKINGM league

825
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: because I took Philadelphia to win and cover Blu for me.

826
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: But the offer just looked a little sluggish here. Can

827
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 1: they get that on track against the Vikings or does

828
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: the Vikers have something up their sleeves here? Apparently Blake

829
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: Cash is going to be at practice this week. I

830
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: think the may big, big blue surge defense if it's

831
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: on the field to help against the run. So this baby,

832
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: you know, in the NFL, man, it's not about who

833
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: you played with when you catch them, And right now

834
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: the Vikers are catching the Eagles when they're not at

835
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: full throttle, and then may be a situation they can exploit.

836
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 2: On Sunday, you want to weigh in on the drummers

837
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 2: versus flats controversy we were examining and exploring earlier.

838
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because as I texted during one of the breaks,

839
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: I was like, there are moments where flats are the

840
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: better choice than the drums. True, our family has a

841
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: recipe in which we mayrin wings overnight in a mixture

842
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: of soy sauce and pineapple juice, And it doesn't matter

843
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: if it's two parts of this and one part of that,

844
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: or even equal parts. You just mix it to whatever

845
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: your taste buds desire, and then you put it in

846
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: a pan, put fall over it, throw it in the

847
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 1: other I believe, for an hour, and then take off

848
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: the foil, and then and then let it go for

849
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,439
Speaker 1: another forty five minutes, so it gets so the sides

850
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: get brown, and when you put by that time it

851
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: is so moist and succulent, and it's got so much

852
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: flavor that you could take that flat, put it in

853
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: your mouth and just pull the two bones out, and

854
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 1: then meat just falls off the bone, and that's when

855
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: the flat kicks the drummer's ass. Dan Winnisoda knows about this.

856
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: I either brought over a batch to this out the

857
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: time he went and smoked cigars, or I told him

858
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: about the recipe. I said it to him, and then

859
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: he fired that one through an algorithm and upgraded my

860
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: recipe to add some other funky stuff to it. I

861
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: can't remember exactly what he did, but it's a great

862
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: recipe and it yields. The type of the yields the

863
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: situation in which.

864
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,959
Speaker 2: Flats over drummies well articulated, very well, I can't argue

865
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 2: with anything else that was like that was poetic for

866
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 2: being unrehearsed.

867
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 7: You've never spoken so eloquently on bumper to bumper, uninterrupted,

868
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 7: no phone issues.

869
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 2: That was unbelievable. That was concise, clear.

870
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 7: Thirty years of joining the fan and you just found

871
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,919
Speaker 7: your colorful, your peak expressive. By the way, a Texter

872
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 7: makes a good point, will you please ask Leavell again,

873
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 7: which quarterback would he start if he was making the decision,

874
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 7: Not who he expects to start, who he thinks the

875
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 7: Vikings are going to start, but who coached Lavelle e

876
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 7: Neil would start against the Eagles.

877
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: I want Jaj McCarthy out there whenever he's ready to

878
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: go out there. I think that you've got to get

879
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: through this period of adjustment and this the learning curve,

880
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 1: and he can't do it on the sideline or watch

881
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 1: someone else do it, get out there and get him

882
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: of it at all.

883
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 3: I know.

884
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: Uh, it's also about winning with this team. Who gives

885
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: them the best chance of winning. But JJ is the future,

886
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: and I think you're better off a year from now

887
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 1: given JJ as much experience possible now as you can.

888
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,919
Speaker 1: So I would put number nine out there and I went,

889
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: and I'm biased because I watched him play a lot

890
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: in college. I just like I like who he is,

891
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: I like how he carries himself. Uh, you know, talking

892
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: to the Vikings in Chicago after that game, you know,

893
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: I understand how they feel about him in that locker

894
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: in that clubhouse. Guy, I keep getting locker room the

895
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: clubhouse mixed up in that club and I just feel

896
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: like he's got a lot of qualities that there you're

897
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: gonna want in the leader lining up behind under center.

898
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: So if JJ's ready or a healthy apt to choose

899
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: to Ben two, I'm taking JJ over guy who's with

900
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: a six team in six years. I needn't have a

901
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: job until until uh what light in camp?

902
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 2: Uh? I was about to ask what the Sunday calm?

903
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 2: It can't be the wild though with the your isn't

904
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 2: your Saturday night deadline for Sunday like one o'clock in

905
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 2: the afternoon.

906
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: That's actually question. Dan, We'll see you're on top of

907
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: your game. I'm actually wrote a calm for Sunday on

908
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: Bill Garrett, and then my coverage of the Saturday game

909
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:18,439
Speaker 1: will probably be a Monday's Pace.

910
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 2: Okay, there you go, just a day behind. That makes sense,

911
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 2: all right, have fun at the X, and we appreciate you,

912
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 2: and uh, yeah, you're right. I keep calling it that

913
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 2: Grand Casino. What's the shorthand name? Already? I thought somebody

914
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 2: came up, I just called the Grand? Was it the Grand?

915
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 2: I don't I thought it was that or something? Who knows.

916
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 2: We'll talk next week. Thanks love, all right, take care, guys,

917
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 2: lavell eat Neil the Third. As Nate writes, the wing

918
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 2: monologue was perfection from Lavelle Chef's Kiss. Meanwhile, Larry Mondela

919
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: Guy's back by lucky day, I just happened to have

920
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 2: a leavel using the word succulent on my novel bingo card.

921
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,720
Speaker 2: All right, we are, indeed back. A lot of interesting

922
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 2: ideas coming in regarding uh, maybe a shorter shorthand version

923
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 2: of a grand casino arena. Some of them could be read,

924
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 2: some of them can't, or some of them won't. I

925
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 2: guess the better way to put I it's you probably could,

926
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 2: but I don't think it's probably worth the trouble at

927
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 2: this point. But if you have suggestions, I thought i'd

928
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 2: heard one on the station already that was pretty good,

929
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 2: but I don't quite remember all of that. Six four

930
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 2: six eighty six is the Bradshaw and Bryant k f

931
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Speaker 2: A N text line. I had a story I didn't

932
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 2: bring I left my bag by my desk. We'll save it.

933
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 6: Uh.

934
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 2: It was kind of a juicy a section controversy that's

935
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,720
Speaker 2: broken out. Well, I I can I think I remember

936
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 2: the I can remember the short version. There's a big

937
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 2: time comedian Mark is it pronounced Maren or Maron? A man?

938
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 2: Is arni podcaster? Have you heard about his meltdown? He

939
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 2: is apparently there is, like everything else, a very loop

940
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 2: creative I guess you'd say laugh off comedy festival that

941
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 2: is scheduled to take place in Saudi Arabia. Oh and

942
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 2: a lot of big name comedians from the United States

943
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 2: of America have agreed to participate. They're taking the money.

944
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 2: They're taking the money. Marin is bitter about them taking

945
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 2: the money. He thinks that's a bridge too far. And

946
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 2: the kicker, I hope I have this right. The kicker

947
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 2: that I read was that one of the comedians who

948
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 2: may not be as big a name, but who is participating.

949
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 2: His father was a firefighter who was killed on nine

950
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 2: to eleven, and the ethical questions more generally about these

951
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 2: big shot comedians doing what they're doing has been raised

952
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 2: and I get you know, we've heard this via this

953
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 2: is the live golf all over again?

954
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 3: Is it not?

955
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 2: Yes, only a different version of it. And look we

956
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 2: everybody I think knows that.

957
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 4: Well.

958
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 2: Gerald Positor, one of our regular guests, had a great

959
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 2: book on the Saudi connection to nine to eleven, which

960
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 2: he believes is quite extensive and might be a part

961
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 2: of the story that has been relatively speaking, still covered up.

962
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 2: The comeback to that is, in fact, some people have

963
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 2: written about how the guy in charge now is actually

964
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 2: liberalizing things compared to before. And then somebody else came

965
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 2: back and said, well, wait a minute. You mean the

966
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 2: same guy who signed off on and authorized the slicing

967
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 2: up of the what was the name of the journals,

968
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 2: Kashogi Jamal? So how far can you really say liberalization

969
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 2: is really going on there? So money talks and these

970
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 2: are these are huge paydays. I think they're all million

971
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:02,280
Speaker 2: dollars each? Are they not even more? Depending on the comedian? Probably?

972
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 2: And that has been raised. Now is liv golf still

973
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 2: going on? It is? Ok? Yeah? And how have we

974
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,280
Speaker 2: resolved that we have? And is there still the debate

975
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,919
Speaker 2: like that, That go ahead. You can take the money,

976
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 2: but I'm not going to respect you very much for

977
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 2: doing so well.

978
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 7: I think golf they kind of came back together a

979
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 7: little bit, like the tour started to work together a

980
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 7: little bit more and there's not the same kind of

981
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 7: animosity that there once was. So it worked out well

982
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 7: for those that took ultimately because they never got because

983
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 7: that was one of the talk, well we're going to bring.

984
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 2: It back together. There's got to be some punishment on

985
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 2: this end, and it never took place, really did it.

986
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 2: Other then you have to deal with the public relations hit. Yeah,

987
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 2: which is what it is.

988
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 7: And now those guys, you know, they play their tour,

989
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 7: they come back and play the majors, they can play

990
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 7: the Ryder Cup. Still, you know that was one thing.

991
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 7: Do we let them play the Ryder Cups? We now

992
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 7: let them play the Ryder Cup. That still do all

993
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 7: of that part.

994
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 2: Of the discussion.

995
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 7: And you know, then the PGA, the PGA, I think though,

996
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 7: ended up taking some type of money from somebody to

997
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 7: help beef up their pursus as well.

998
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 2: So well, and again you know, a couple of people

999
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 2: pointed out, look, we the government does business with some

1000
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 2: you know, they exist, they're they're they're there. They they

1001
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 2: we still need, you know, uh have a relationship with them.

1002
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 2: So how do you where do you draw the line

1003
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 2: on how far you go? I I mean, I guess

1004
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 2: I could see a comedian saying, no, I I I'm

1005
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,439
Speaker 2: not interested in and even if it's a lot of money,

1006
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 2: I'm turning down. Shane Gillis, did that? Is that true?

1007
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 2: You just he said, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go. Well,

1008
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 2: you look up the name. I think it's Pete Davidson.

1009
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 2: Is that the one whose father was the firefighter? I believe?

1010
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 2: But he is performing there, Yeah, exactly, I think that's

1011
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 2: the one. So you know again, I it's it's I

1012
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 2: passed it along just as interesting fodder as much as anything.

1013
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 2: He's a New York City firefighter. Sure, I'm I'd like

1014
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 2: to think when it was that personal, it would be

1015
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 2: a pretty big bridge for me to cross over. You know,

1016
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 2: maybe he's explained it, Maybe he has his own feeling

1017
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: that Saudi Arabia is not as implicated as other people

1018
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 2: think or or suspect. But that one struck me the

1019
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,479
Speaker 2: the ultimately people make their own decisions a million times

1020
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 2: about because there's there's there's five thousand trade offs right

1021
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 2: every day when it comes to that's dirty money or

1022
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 2: who do you want? Do you want to do business

1023
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 2: with them? And who you are? All that sort of thing.

1024
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 2: But this one is getting I think a lot of

1025
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 2: attention because I think the event is coming up right

1026
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 2: fairly soon.

1027
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't have the date. Yeah, yeah, it's and

1028
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 7: there's a lot of big names Chappelle, Bill Burr, Yeah,

1029
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 7: a lot of huge yeahs. Absolutely, well, they got I

1030
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 7: mean they print money. It's true, they can.

1031
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,320
Speaker 2: They can. They can cut a check for whatever. It

1032
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. It's chump change right in the Kingdom pretty much.

1033
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 2: It's crazy. A lot of old, lot of old, a

1034
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 2: lot of old, and they're pumping it out right now.

1035
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 2: By the way, they're not depriving the world of Yeah,

1036
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 2: the oil supply is through the roof from there as

1037
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 2: I recall it. All right, let's wrap up the program,

1038
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 2: will remind you give you some highlights from several of

1039
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 2: our standing guests today, and we'll also get back to

1040
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 2: the Wings Slash Wings and drummis conversation and controversy that

1041
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 2: broke out earlier as well, and then prepare you for

1042
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 2: a very busy weekend, including a two hour Oh my

1043
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,720
Speaker 2: God edition of the Sunday Sermons program.

1044
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 7: Show rep presented by American Pressure Commercial grade pressure Washers

1045
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 7: since nineteen seventy five.

1046
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 2: It's the Bumper to Bumpers show.

1047
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: Rap.

1048
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 2: What a night on Fox nine, unbelievable. We are as

1049
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 2: usual now that we've hit football season. Our program called

1050
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 2: Enough Said, is on at unusual times. But you can

1051
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 2: always DVR right, you can always hit the uh uh

1052
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 2: Fox Local app. You got It's a million ways to

1053
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 2: do it. Fox nine were on at eleven o five

1054
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 2: after a cop I don't know what game we're after.

1055
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 7: I think we're after baseball in the news tonight. Oh

1056
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 7: it's baseball. I'm pretty sure it's baseball tonight.

1057
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 2: Okay. And then we're at on at eight thirty after

1058
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 2: go for hockey on Fox Stein on Fox nine plus. Yeah,

1059
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 2: we we just got a goal disallowed. It was a

1060
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 2: slashed for the goal okay, was actually completed. So and

1061
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 2: didn't we lose to somebody mediocre? Last week we split

1062
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 2: a series with Michigan Michigan Tech. What's going on?

1063
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 3: Well?

1064
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 2: Check big? We're very young with of course we are

1065
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 2: with very young. We lost our top five scorers from

1066
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 2: last next week tonight on the Fan Fan of Demand,

1067
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 2: followed by Dan Patrick as as well we want to think,

1068
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 2: as I mentioned Guestling Lavelle. A lot of good Wing

1069
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 2: contributors today as well, and of course Gerby on the

1070
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 2: big new announcement about a bed and breakfast and lunch hotel.

1071
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 2: We almost missed the lunch. Yeah, that was the most

1072
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 2: really part of the deal. That's very unusual. But he

1073
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 2: thinks it's He says they're already sold out for the

1074
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 2: upcoming week people, and almost sold out for the week after,

1075
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 2: and he promises that the sheets will be changed between

1076
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 2: you know visits. Bed and breakfast have never appealed to me.

1077
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 7: No, I'm staying at a colle People love them, I understand,

1078
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:29,439
Speaker 7: but I don't.

1079
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 2: Something doesn't seem right about it. I don't disagree with

1080
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 2: you on that. It doesn't doesn't really do all that

1081
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 2: much to me. Feels like everyone's too close. Hey, real quick,

1082
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Speaker 2: this is today, we are told. At Columbia's Medical Center,

1083
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Speaker 2: protesters staged a die in for Palestine. They held signs

1084
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Speaker 2: asking Colombia to call for a cease fire twelve hours

1085
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Speaker 2: after the ceasefire had already begun.

1086
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Speaker 7: We go to school with morons. Well maybe they just

1087
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 7: said in check Twitter, they have got to you. They

1088
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Speaker 7: were focused on the people.

1089
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Speaker 2: At the top of the list, like wouldn't you Of

1090
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Speaker 2: all people, they're the ones that he's supposed to be

1091
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Speaker 2: the most likely to know.

1092
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Speaker 7: They were focused on the protests. They didn't want to

1093
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 7: be distracted by the morning news. You know, a lot

1094
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 7: of eyes to cross and tease to dot, as they say,

1095
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 7: into business. But you know, got a framework.

1096
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Speaker 2: You sent to me a SoundBite from the president saying

1097
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 2: that the woman who won the post, not the polster

1098
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 2: the Nobel Prize called him and said, mister President, this

1099
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 2: should have gone to you. You got jobbed. Basically, make

1100
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 2: is there like a transcript of the record? Is there?

1101
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 2: Is it a recorded call? As far as I know,

1102
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 2: it was just a president's version, and as selfless as

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00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 2: he is, he said, I did not ask her for

1104
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Speaker 2: the award after she said that, correct, very nice woman,

1105
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Speaker 2: So we said nice one. Very nice for her to

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Speaker 2: do that. It's as good as it gets. Thank you

1107
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Speaker 2: for watching, Thank you for listening today. Enjoy this outstanding weather.

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Speaker 2: Big college football Day in the Big Ten tomorrow, which

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Speaker 2: we will review on a two hour edition of Sunday

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Speaker 2: Sermons as well. That'll be nine to eleven, our first

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Speaker 2: two hour tour in quite some time. I think it's

1112
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Speaker 2: going to be first show in a while. That's true

1113
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Speaker 2: to you're right for the first time. You're back as well. Yeah,

1114
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Speaker 2: celebrating a big homecoming victory over Tiller's Perdue boiler Makers.

1115
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Speaker 2: Why not? If not now when we'll talk to you.

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Speaker 2: As I said guards, you'll talk to you at eight

1117
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Speaker 2: a m. Sunday and we will be with you at nine.

1118
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Speaker 2: We're gonna win the Big Ten Championship. We're going to

1119
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Speaker 2: take the Gopher Nation to Pasadena.