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Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.

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Speaker 2: Tiffany Hobbs, KFI'M six fray Live everyone on the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get into the moral conundrum, the ethical conundrum

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Speaker 2: of visiting places that many people may consider as disturbing,

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Speaker 2: real life, places that become attractions all year, but especially

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Speaker 2: on Halloween. And I want to ask Ronnor Mark Ronner,

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Speaker 2: and when it comes to Halloween, are there any ethical

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Speaker 2: and this is a broad question, Mark, ethical and moral,

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Speaker 2: I'd say boundaries that you placed on the holiday places

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Speaker 2: you won't venture into. Are you not going to cemeteries?

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Speaker 2: Are you staying away from the asylum attraction? Or is

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Speaker 2: it all fair play for you?

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Speaker 3: I'm not really sure what you mean, although it's.

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Speaker 4: How crazy are you?

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Speaker 3: Mark?

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Speaker 4: Is what I'm asking?

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Speaker 3: Crazy enough? It's ironic that you started the segment on

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Speaker 3: this subject with a Michael Jackson song, though, if you

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Speaker 3: care to go into that and can of.

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Speaker 2: Worms moral and ethically you're saying, yeah, well, I guess

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm what I'm what I'm asking is is there

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Speaker 2: anything that's off limits for you with Halloween? Is there

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Speaker 2: anything that you go you know what, even that's too

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Speaker 2: far when it comes to visiting places, not just like

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Speaker 2: movies and stuff, but are there places you won't go

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Speaker 2: Because some people won't go to cemeteries. They won't go

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Speaker 2: to Hollywood forever because they feel like it crosses moral

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Speaker 3: No, that sounds like fun. Although I am given pause

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Speaker 3: going to cemeteries because I was locked in a tomb

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Speaker 3: as a child once.

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Speaker 4: Excuse me tell the story time.

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Speaker 3: No, it was just a group of us when young,

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Speaker 3: fairly young teenagers, just running around doing stuff on supervised

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Speaker 3: at night. I go into a tomb and one of

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Speaker 3: my friends shuts the door and bolts it from the outside.

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Speaker 3: It explains a lot and leaves me in there for

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Speaker 3: a good long time. It all makes sense, and I

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Speaker 3: wound up making a story out of it for ec

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Speaker 3: comics a number of years ago. So you know, you

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Speaker 3: turn everything around and you use it for material.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you were in an escape room. But

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Speaker 2: it was an escape too well.

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Speaker 3: Oh I had some time to sit there and think

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Speaker 4: Holy crap, how did you get out?

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Speaker 3: Well? I had to wait for them to come and

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Speaker 3: let me out.

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Speaker 2: That was that was the only that Your only recourse

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Speaker 2: was to wait for someone to relieve you.

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Speaker 3: Yes, in real life, that's how that works.

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Speaker 4: Wow. Do you know how long about you were in there?

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Speaker 4: Or did you just panic?

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Speaker 3: And I'm sure it felt like longer than it was.

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Speaker 3: I started to get a little uneasy, but I wasn't

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Speaker 3: losing my mind over it.

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Speaker 4: Did you hear anything?

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Speaker 3: Well, you always think you do. I once said my

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Speaker 3: very first newspaper job, I used to kind of think

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Speaker 3: I was a minor league George Plinton and go around

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Speaker 3: and do things like, you know, drive a Formula race car,

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Speaker 3: journalists and have the pilot try to make me vomit.

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Speaker 3: One of the one of the dares I took was

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Speaker 3: to spend the night in the Haunted House, which was

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Speaker 3: a defunct old sanitarium in Indiana. And I made it

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Speaker 3: to about four am, and I realized, I'm just hearing

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Speaker 3: too much stuff here.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and I'm not going to.

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Speaker 3: Go and check it out. But you know, the house settling, big,

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Speaker 3: big institutional building here, you know, where all sorts of

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Speaker 3: horrific things, yes, from the past. Sanitarium, yeah, yeah, mental institution.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not a superstitious person, but at the same

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Speaker 3: time I was here, I was hearing some stuff that

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Speaker 3: I didn't like, okay, and I decided, I think I've

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Speaker 2: That you buried the lead you said, I don't really

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Speaker 2: know what you mean, and then you jump into sanitarium

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I'm not like taking human corpses and

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Speaker 3: violating them. Thank you, Edan.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you not doing that. Thanks for holding back.

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Speaker 2: By the way, did you see that ed Gean mini

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Speaker 2: series on the entire thing? I can't stop thinking about it.

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Speaker 2: I want to unsee parts of it.

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Speaker 4: To be honest, I.

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Speaker 3: Think we've turned in a corner as a culture. There's

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Speaker 3: back when CSI first came on TV, I thought, this

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Speaker 3: is about as graphic as an Italian splatter film by

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Speaker 3: the Cannibal Holocaust director Riguero Diadado. And uh, this is.

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Speaker 4: Worse than that Ryan Murphy's Dementing.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I can't even describe some of the stuff

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Speaker 3: that made me slack jawed in this At the same time,

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Speaker 3: ed Geen. I found a little bit preposterous, but holy smokes,

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Speaker 3: I never thought i'd see something like that on TV,

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Speaker 2: And it was so well done, which is what kept

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Speaker 2: you watching, because while it was crude and and horrific

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Speaker 2: and and just violated a lot of our sensibilities, it

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Speaker 4: At the same time, it.

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Speaker 3: Had that burnush of like one of those CBS shows

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Speaker 3: while it was showing you the violets stuff. Imaginable.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And that's the perfect transition into what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 2: So a place like ed Gean, this notorious, to say

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Speaker 2: the least, serial killer, anything associated with ed Gean where

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Speaker 2: he spent his last years in that psychiatric hospital. Other

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Speaker 2: sorts of places like sanitariums or cemeteries, those sorts of

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Speaker 2: attractions are being considered when people think of morals and

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Speaker 2: ethics and whether or not these attractions should be places

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Speaker 2: that are made popular at any time, but especially on Halloween.

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Speaker 2: You have places like penitentiaries, Eastern State penitentiaries. Tear behind

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Speaker 2: the Walls was one of the more popular Halloween attractions

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Speaker 2: in Philadelphia until it was called out as being more

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Speaker 2: or less too controversial because people really went through cruelty

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Speaker 2: just there in Philadelphia, but there's also the Pinhurst Asylum,

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Speaker 2: that draw what one researcher calls as dark tourism. It

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Speaker 2: creates this want to immerse oneself in dark tourism, which

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Speaker 2: is tragic and has suffering at the center of these

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Speaker 2: experiences that use history as real life content for these attractions.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now that you bring this up, I will admit

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Speaker 3: that I forced the long Suffering One to walk around

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Speaker 3: the Whitechapel district in London once where Jack the Ripper

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Speaker 3: killed all those prostitutes. Not a guided tour. I just

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Speaker 4: And it's a natural human instinct.

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Speaker 2: We're curious. We want to see, especially if it has

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Speaker 2: part of human nature, and we want to see where

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Speaker 2: these tragedies may have unfolded. One place I'm thinking of,

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Speaker 2: specifically the Cecil Hotel in downtown la home to all

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Speaker 2: sorts of serial killers, all sorts of lore, and most

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Speaker 2: recently Elisa Lamb, the young lady who was found in

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Speaker 2: the water tower on top of the Cecil Hotel on Maine.

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Speaker 3: Isn't there a documentary?

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Speaker 4: There are multiple.

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Speaker 2: Documentaries about this place, and it sends changed names, numerous

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Speaker 4: But it is an.

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Speaker 2: Attraction and people go, especially around this time, hoping to

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Speaker 2: be able to encounter any sort of ghost or goblin

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Speaker 2: or ghoul, and researchers, scientists, psychologists are all saying that

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Speaker 2: it is a huge part of a larger moral and

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Speaker 2: ethical issue that dark tourism should not necessarily use tragedy

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Speaker 4: Mark you are officially a dark tourist.

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Speaker 2: Whether by accident or by purpose or on purpose, you

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Speaker 3: I suppose I have sort of a macob's sensibility, but

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Speaker 3: I suppose I would draw the line at it actually

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Speaker 2: The Museum of Death one of my favorite places on

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Speaker 2: Hollywood Boulevard, or rather Selma Boulevard sixty three sixty three Selma,

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Speaker 4: And they do it from a historical viewpoint.

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Speaker 2: But some people may say that because these tragedies really happen,

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Speaker 2: from our empathy. And that's a question that seems to

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Speaker 2: be evolving every Halloween. When we come back, we're going

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Speaker 2: to get into ten great horror film remakes from the

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Speaker 2: twenty first from the twenty.

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Speaker 4: First century so far.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we're not finished yet, but here are ten great

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Speaker 4: You got this KFI.

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Speaker 2: AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio apps.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, instead of doing kind of the cliche favorite horror

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Speaker 4: Everyone does it. There's lists galore out.

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Speaker 2: I said, Okay, we'll still do a list, but we'll

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Speaker 2: do it from a different perspective or a different a

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Speaker 2: different type of list rather and in this case, these

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Speaker 2: are the ten great horror film remakes. So saith Vanessa Mackie,

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Speaker 2: who is a writer for Flood magazine, and she considers

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Speaker 2: herself as a horror fan, horror ficionado, and she compiled

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Speaker 2: this list from different places, different sources, and here is

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Speaker 2: the list. Let's see what you are agree with and

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Speaker 2: mark jump in here whenever you once.

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Speaker 3: Before you start, have you ever heard of Flood magazine?

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Speaker 2: Okay or off to a good start then, But I

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Speaker 2: did a lot of cross checking and this one seemed

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Speaker 2: to be the most comprehensive, and I'd say unbiased lists

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Speaker 2: even though it's by one person because she used a

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Speaker 3: Oh, but this is serious, it's important.

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Speaker 2: It's this is really really important in real journalism.

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Speaker 4: Right here, we dug really deep.

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Speaker 2: So going in order of the best, from ten to one,

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Speaker 2: as far as remakes are concerned. Number yeah, yeah, number,

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Speaker 2: we'll go ten to one.

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Speaker 4: We'll go backwards backwards.

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Speaker 2: The first one, number ten Slumber Party Mass Sacre. It's

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Speaker 2: a nineteen eighty two teen movie slasher and it came

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Speaker 2: out again when it was remade in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 2: There are some kids who are handling themselves against a

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Speaker 2: misogynistic killer, and apparently it was good enough to be remade.

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Speaker 2: It was a teen movie slasher back in nineteen eighty two.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever seen Slumber Party Massacre?

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Speaker 3: I think that's the one where the poster has the

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Speaker 4: Yoh the classic poster.

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Speaker 3: Isn't it Unless I'm mistaken.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what I'd have to pull it up.

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Speaker 3: But I certainly haven't seen the remake.

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Speaker 2: Okay, they said this is one of the quintessential eighties

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Speaker 2: the remake deviates, it says, in a number of ways

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Speaker 2: But we have a couple of talkbacks. You're telling us

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Speaker 4: Kids make a little appearance. That was cute.

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Speaker 2: They're fighting, that's not so cute. But the little sneeze

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Speaker 4: Four years in a row. No tricker traders here?

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Speaker 2: Ah, that sucks, especially if she bought candy and she

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Speaker 2: Sue, Well, you still have a good heart and now

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Speaker 4: Wayne. It's just not what it used to be.

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Speaker 2: It's not what we all remember, but a for efforts

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Speaker 2: about these horror remakes. We've set the Crazies it, We've

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Speaker 2: The original was a West Craven movie, Another West Craven movie.

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Speaker 2: In fact, it says that the original, beloved and influential

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Carpenter, I know you've talked about John Carpenter

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and maybe not since, but at any rate, it's there.

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Speaker 3: It shows the desire for cash. Some of the wax

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Speaker 2: Okay, Donna the Dead is next. It's number two on

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Speaker 3: the shopping mall. Yes, one of them who played Flyboy

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Speaker 2: I've never seen stuff like that before and it was realistic. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: The thing Texas Chainsaw Massacre No. Texas Chainsaw Master No.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 2: Number one on the list of best horror remakes, the

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Speaker 2: original being in the seventies, nineteen seventy four and the

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Speaker 2: remake starring Jessica Biel in two thousand and three. I

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Speaker 2: love both. I showed the original to my class, not

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Speaker 2: all of it because you can't because in some sex

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Speaker 2: scenes in there, but it was fun. They were into it.

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Speaker 2: These teenagers were like what, and I said, just wait

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Speaker 2: till you see the remake.

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Speaker 3: I hope the person who wrote this list never gets

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Speaker 3: work again. I think the thing that most people don't

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Speaker 3: quite realize about the original Toby Hooper Texas Chainsaw Massacre

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Speaker 3: is you don't really see as much as you think

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Speaker 3: you do. A lot of the violence is implied.

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Speaker 2: It is implied, and if you watch Monsters on Netflix

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Speaker 2: with Ed Gean, it gets into all of this.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's incredibly cool. I've got mixed feelings about

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Speaker 3: that whole mini series, but the reproduction of the Texas

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Speaker 3: Chainsaw Massacre set is really fun.

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Speaker 2: The last little tidbit about this when it comes to

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Speaker 2: horror movies, has to do with your health. Twenty twelve

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Speaker 2: University of Westminster study found that watching a ninety minute

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Speaker 2: horror movie can burn up to one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 2: four calories, which is roughly the same as a thirty

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Speaker 2: minute walk, and that's because your heart rate spikes, your

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Speaker 2: adrenaline surges, and stress induced energy is used in films

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Speaker 2: like The Shining top the list at calorie Burning with

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Speaker 2: Jaws following and The Exorcist being third on the list.

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Speaker 2: Providing a good scare is good for a little mini workout.

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Speaker 3: So think of how fat I'd be if I didn't

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Speaker 3: watch that stuff.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.

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Speaker 2: And to kind of finalize our scary stories, it's Halloween

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Speaker 2: and Halloween. Kim Kardashian resident aerospace engineer and burgeoning astronaut.

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Speaker 2: Kim Kardashian says that the moon landing was fake and

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Speaker 2: because she said it, you are supposed to believe it.

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Speaker 2: She said this on a recent episode of The Kardashians,

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Speaker 2: and she tried to convince actress Sarah Paulson that the

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Speaker 2: moon landing never happened. Of course, she's talking about the

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Speaker 2: nineteen sixty nine Apollo eleven moon landing with Neil Armstrong,

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Speaker 2: buzz Aldrin, and Michael Collins, who became the first humans

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Speaker 2: on the moon there in nineteen sixty nine. But Kim

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Speaker 2: Kardashian says that buzz Aldrin has quote gotten old and

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Speaker 2: that he has quote made mistakes when talking about the

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Speaker 2: famous moon landing. So Kim Kardashian has concluded from that

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Speaker 2: that it did not happen. She said, so, I don't

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Speaker 2: think it happened, And then she said, I've seen a

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Speaker 2: few videos of Buzz Aldurn talking about how it didn't happen.

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Speaker 2: He says it all the time now in interviews. Now,

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Speaker 2: NASA got wind of this, and after they stopped laughing maniacally,

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Speaker 2: they hit back and they said, through Sean Duffy, of

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Speaker 2: course it happened.

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Speaker 4: Did it happened? Six times?

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Speaker 2: And then a quick Google search if you want to

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Speaker 2: validate the claims Kim Kardashian is making about Buzz Aldrin

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Speaker 2: saying that the moon landing never happened, reveals that there

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Speaker 2: are misinterpretations, There are AI videos, there are highly edited

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Speaker 2: videos and quotes that may misconstrue anything that Buzz has

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Speaker 2: said about the moon landing. But ultimately he has not

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Speaker 2: said that the moon landing did not happen.

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Speaker 4: But you heard it here first.

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Speaker 2: It's breaking news from resident aerospace engineer and versioning astronaut

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Speaker 2: Kim Kardashian that the moon landing in nineteen sixty nine

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Speaker 2: did not happen. Let me tell you what is happening. Tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: The Rose Bowl Stadium is going to become home to

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Speaker 2: a super adoption event. Over seven hundred animals are heading

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Speaker 2: to the Rose Bowl to from ten am to four pm.

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Speaker 2: They also did it today ten am to four pm

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow Saturday, where more than twenty shelters and rescue groups

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Speaker 2: will come together through Pasadena Humane Society, Angel City Pitbulls,

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Speaker 2: and LA Animal Services to offer adoptions at a discounted feed.

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Speaker 2: They want you to get out there and help get

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Speaker 2: us closer to having a no kill status by giving

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Speaker 2: these animals permanent homes. One final note for what's going

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Speaker 2: on this weekend specifically is in terms of the Snap benefits,

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Speaker 2: Carls Junior is stepping up. They're stepping up in a

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Speaker 2: major way and they are offering government service members, government employees, veterans,

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Speaker 2: and people who are beneficiaries of Snap slash CalFresh a

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Speaker 2: deal to get a meal. It's a way to help

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Speaker 2: you and they are off ring one dollar meals. For example,

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Speaker 2: if you go in with a family of four and

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Speaker 2: you order four meals, each meal will be one dollar

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Speaker 2: and that will amount to four dollars total. You're getting

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Speaker 2: one dollar meals to help alleviate the stress and strain

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Speaker 2: of this possible impending SNAP revocation, this stoppage of SNAP

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Speaker 2: right now, it's on hold until Monday at least because

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Speaker 2: of that federal ruling. That was the breaking news coming

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Speaker 2: out overnight and into today. But it is a temporary

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Speaker 2: pause at best. This can take weeks and in the

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Speaker 2: interim no one has said fully what will happen tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: whether or not payments will be allocated. But in case

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Speaker 2: of financial stress and strain, Carl's Junior is stepping up

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Speaker 2: offering their one dollar meals. You can find out the

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Speaker 2: closest Carls Junior and participating Carls Junior to you by

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Speaker 2: going to their websit site and this will go on

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Speaker 2: up to I believe a million meals. They're looking to

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Speaker 2: give out a million meals, so that is a wonderful thing.

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Speaker 2: Lausd also stepping up to alleviate families during this government

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Speaker 2: shut down as well.

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Speaker 4: Mark Ronner, quick last question for you. Do you have

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Speaker 4: your did you ever go trigger treating as a kid?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Sure, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Do you have a fun trigger treating memory? Just a

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Speaker 2: quick little memory that you have.

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Speaker 3: I mean I think I dressed up as a vampire

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Speaker 3: Dracula kind of thing when my buddy was evil and evil. Oh,

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Speaker 3: I mean it was pretty low tech stuff at the time.

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Speaker 3: Because you remember those crappy old Halloween costumes with plastic, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the hard plastic masks. Oh yeah, but I have kind

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Speaker 3: of a weird fondness for those now. They were so cheesy,

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Speaker 3: don't you.

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Speaker 2: You're so nostalgic, And the pictures I look back on,

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Speaker 2: they were horrific. The princesses looked terrifying because they're plastic.

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Speaker 2: But a lot of just great memories from that, Tony.

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Speaker 2: Did you trigger treat as a kid? Yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: kind of don't remember.

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Speaker 3: Is that far back, Tony, I can't.

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Speaker 4: Oh God, just you know, got candy and.

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Speaker 2: My costumes all suck to I think I had the

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Speaker 2: same one, just those those plastic yeah, just the face,

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Speaker 2: a little slits in the mouth you can barely breathe,

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Speaker 2: eyes you can see out of They were the best.

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Speaker 3: They were sharp too. You can cut your tongue on those.

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Speaker 3: Don't stick your tongue through the mouth hole, And.

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Speaker 2: Of course you did because someone told you can cut

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Speaker 2: your tongue so you did it to.

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Speaker 4: Cut your tongue.

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Speaker 3: I know you have to.

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Speaker 1: You have to.

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Speaker 4: It's a part of Halloween. Kids don't have that anymore.

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Speaker 2: They're spending two hundred dollars on inflatable costumes that just

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Speaker 2: are just so temporary.

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Speaker 4: You know, we had it good, guys, we had it good.

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Speaker 3: We didn't know at the time.

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Speaker 4: We didn't know at the time. I kind of did you.

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Speaker 3: Did you remember that much? You remember exactly? So I

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Speaker 3: got candy.

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Speaker 4: That's all I remember for right.

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Speaker 2: Well, good for you, because there's no more of that anymore.

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Speaker 2: You're getting a can of soup. You're going trick or

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Speaker 2: treat in this year. If you did, who knows. It's

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Speaker 2: been fun. I know we had a good time here.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for spending Halloween with us. Enjoy the rest of

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Speaker 2: your evening. I'll see you back here tomorrow for my

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Speaker 2: regular show Saturdays with Tiffany from five to seven pm,

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Speaker 2: followed by Michael Monks and excuse me, Michael Monks and

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Speaker 2: Michael Monks Reports that's the name of his show. It'll

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Speaker 2: be on after that. It's Ghost to Ghost. Stay tuned,

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Speaker 2: one of the best shows on radio. Thanks for hanging

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Speaker 2: out with us. See you tomorrow. I Am six forty

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Speaker 2: live everywhere on the iHeartRadio

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Speaker 1: App KFI AM six forty on demand