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Speaker 1: him up in studio. Right now we have Corey Bowman

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Speaker 1: who did run for mayor. We all know what the

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Speaker 1: well that murder occurred in an area where they voted

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Speaker 1: eighty five to one hundred percent. After have provol you

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Speaker 1: had a choice, you could have done something differently, probably

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Speaker 1: would have had a better result. That would have been

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Speaker 1: Corey Bowman. Maybe we'll hear from him again an elected capacity.

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Speaker 1: Good to have you in studio, Corey Bowman with friend

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Speaker 1: extra Special Signal ninety nine. Welcome back. It's so great

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Speaker 1: having you here. Good morning, and this is shout out

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Speaker 1: for anybody. If I don't know if people get Facebook

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Speaker 1: Signal ninety nine follower. She has all the inside scoop

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Speaker 1: on all the shenanigans going on. She backs everything she

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Speaker 1: posts with facts. She's got documents, she has testimony, she

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Speaker 1: has insider information, and it's always turned out to be

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent accurate. Signal ninety nine. Thanks for what

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Speaker 1: you're doing.

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Speaker 2: You're welcome. It's pleasure.

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Speaker 1: You're like todds Inser in a way.

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Speaker 3: I love to.

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Speaker 1: I know I need to.

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Speaker 4: If I just told him the other night, if we

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Speaker 4: would be unstoppable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Adam and and I Adam just mind meld

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, you're on the ground in the West End.

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Speaker 1: Mag See, this is a day to day operation. You're living,

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Speaker 1: you're experiencing it real time, and you get to see

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Speaker 1: the dysfunction of the city of Cincinnati unfold in real

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Speaker 1: time and how it impacts, usually to the negative of

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Speaker 1: But Corey Bowman Signal ninety nine in studio, and thank

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Speaker 1: God for both of you.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to mention that Joe actually encouraged me to

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Speaker 2: And cass him out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I had to. I had to actually just come

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, we can still call mister Bowman,

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Speaker 4: but you can still call and cuss him out and

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Speaker 1: Yes. Right, And that's the prominently displayed dump button right there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: run off the rails and no, if you do that,

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Speaker 1: you're not going to get an opportunity to come on

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Speaker 1: and apologize. So just let you know that, because that's

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Speaker 1: exactly what happened. Let's start a signal ninety eight. I

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Speaker 1: That's just kind of across the board reality for dealing

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Speaker 1: She's got a degree basically graphic design. I don't know

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Speaker 1: How come they don't demand accountability for the money that's

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Speaker 1: Well, gee signaled ninety nine. What just prompted me to

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Speaker 4: all the way through two terms of mayor. But it's

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Speaker 4: You know, ninety percent of the violent crime is in

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Speaker 4: Now? Where's Iris Rolie? Why is it she out calling

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Speaker 4: I don't have enough fingers exactly. And then seven fatalities

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Speaker 4: But that's why Mike Washington got fired. He didn't show

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Speaker 4: But here's McKinley hasn't been to five fires that have fatalities,

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Speaker 1: Maybe the chief got the memo that the best way

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Speaker 4: But why haven't we fired Chief McKinley. Oh he's not

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Speaker 1: Well and pivoting over because of course, you know Washington's

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Speaker 4: And when they do, they're still going to refuse to

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Speaker 4: He doesn't care about the money. He wants his job back,

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Speaker 1: Sounds a lot like police chief three. So Thigi, who's

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Speaker 1: She did that, you know, lost confidence whatever on administrative

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Speaker 4: Well, and that's the thing, they don't care. It's not

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Speaker 1: But shouldn't they care just because it makes them look

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Speaker 2: Well you'd think they would.

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Speaker 4: But you know, you've got Captain Denita Pettis is still

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's gonna be a big lawsuit.

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Speaker 4: I mean, she got her job back with back pay,

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Speaker 1: And unring the bell of her.

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Speaker 4: You got Assistant Chief Sherman Smith from the CFD, he's

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Speaker 2: You can't do that. They have an HR person and a.

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Speaker 4: Law director or a city solicitor for a reason, share

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Speaker 2: So that you can make your decision.

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Speaker 1: In just a few minutes time. Here you've outlined a

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Speaker 1: Does that all land in Eryl Longs?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, She's the only person that can fire and hire.

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Speaker 2: She's the one, so like with.

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Speaker 4: Captain Pettis, she's the one that made the ultimate decision

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Speaker 4: to fire her. So she should have consulted with HR,

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Speaker 4: and she should have consulted with the City Solicitor of course,

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Speaker 2: This is what I want to do.

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Speaker 4: I want to move forward with termination and here's why.

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Speaker 4: And then they should have looked at that and went, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 4: Captain Pettis was dishonest with IA during the investigation.

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Speaker 2: However, the original complaint a whole lot.

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Speaker 4: She was off duty, so these IA things are irrelevant.

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Speaker 4: They should have had the brains to do that. I mean,

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Speaker 4: but this is a big city where HR and the

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Speaker 2: To advise her.

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Speaker 1: All the resources are there. The logical reasonable person would conclude, yes, look,

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Speaker 1: we got a whole team of lawyers. Let's run it

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Speaker 1: by the law department first. Let's see what the city

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Speaker 1: solicitor has to say. First, Let's do our due diligence.

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Speaker 1: So when people coming out and say, hey, why did

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Speaker 1: you place this person on administrative leaver otherwise terminate them?

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Speaker 1: You have an answer to that question. Eight fifteen will

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Speaker 1: Happy Friday, TA give Jack Wins or another opportunity. The

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Speaker 1: And question one of the ones you put together signal

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Speaker 1: But you break down all these questions and then you say,

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Speaker 1: here's how we're going to approach it, Corey Bowman. They're

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Speaker 4: Let's not forget about manipulating crime stats.

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Speaker 1: Sarah Herring was on my program talking about that gun

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Speaker 3: But when you mon to the reports, none of that

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Speaker 2: Change the classification, they that.

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Speaker 3: Well there's bullets that I mean, by the way, I

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Speaker 3: that got categorized as property damage. So these reclassification of everything,

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Speaker 3: So existing infrastructure is a classification, But what are they

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Speaker 1: After the money from the railroad has been laundered through

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Speaker 3: Well, let me talk about that, because I've talked to

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Speaker 3: they can justify these assets right here. Now we can

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's an impact on our credit rating. It's an asset. Therefore,

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Speaker 3: So you leave a lot of property, a lot of

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Speaker 1: Light did property signal ar know you said you want

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Speaker 2: Something I do.

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Speaker 4: I just want to say you were talking about infrastructure.

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Speaker 4: I'm planning to plant sunflowers in every single pothole that's

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Speaker 1: You better have a lot of sunflowers.

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Speaker 4: I sunflowers, Yeah, I could do that, but also violence

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what if you could get Cheryl Long

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well shere along has never responded to any of

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Speaker 2: You know, he does blame me for a lot of things, though.

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Speaker 1: I blame you for telling the truth.

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Speaker 2: It does.

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Speaker 4: And I just want to say, Corey, you and I

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Speaker 2: Brian's not on there.

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Speaker 4: We haven't ruled out Joe yet, but we're good So

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Speaker 4: I think we could. We could fix the crime problem,

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Speaker 4: you know, if we'd get rid of these judges and

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Speaker 3: Well, that's why they don't break cameras. It's not just

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Speaker 2: Exactly Like for instance, just this sweek they had a shooting.

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Speaker 1: Well, we've had probably several, yeah, which one.

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Speaker 4: Right, But officers were canvassing for rings, neighbors for rings.

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Speaker 2: This is what the city wants.

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Speaker 3: We've gotten that from because we have a camera on right,

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Speaker 3: But this is what the city wants.

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Speaker 4: Cp go knock on everybody's door and see if we

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Speaker 1: Again, all would be part, whether you like it or not,

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Speaker 2: You know, they could have made me the violence.

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Speaker 3: Well, when it comes to cameras, let me just make

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Speaker 3: But the hotspots are CRC owned parks, which the city

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Speaker 1: That was like part of a violent production strategy. Corey Bowman,

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Speaker 1: maybe they should have made a viol introduction manager and

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Speaker 1: Corey Bowman together should be the new violence production managers. Anyway,

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