1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati, 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: sponsored in part by Skyline Chili. Stop by Skyline Chili 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: for a three way or cheese cony today. Feeling good, 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: It's Skyline time. This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station. 5 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 2: Really, it's what you need to do. Welcome in Happy Friday, 6 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: Cincy three sixty here for the next three hours, all 7 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: the way up till three o'clock. Mowager takes over after that. 8 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: If you're out braving the snow right now, get yourself 9 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 2: to your nearest Skyline Chili, batten down the hatches, get 10 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 2: yourself a meal, and allow the cruise to clean up 11 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: the roads, as this snow should be ending here soon. 12 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,319 Speaker 2: We talked about a clipper Austin, and we got hit 13 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: with the clipper this morning. Come to find out it's 14 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: a clipper man. Don't mess with the clippers, the old 15 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 2: Alberta clipper. Incredible stuff here in Cincinnati, really as uh 16 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:05,839 Speaker 2: snow filled our city again this morning, but it hasn't stopped. 17 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 2: What we do might stop what kids do. Is this 18 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: like the first time you've seen snow or well, it's 19 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: different every time. 20 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 3: You know. 21 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 2: Now snow. Well, no snowflake is the same. Well, there 22 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: was some thick flakes coming down earlier today. I wondered, 23 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: as you know, the kids had school today, I wondered 24 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 2: dropping them off in the snowstart. I'm like, oh, this 25 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: kind of thick snow coming down doesn't say it's supposed 26 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: to stop till noon. Wonder if they should have canceled 27 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 2: school like they did on Tuesday the night before, just 28 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: because of the threat of snow, and they didn't, And 29 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: then you know, about an hour later, they sent a 30 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: message out to go ahead and come get your kids 31 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: and pick them up early. I don't understand that. If 32 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: it's going to stop at noon or one o'clock, well 33 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 2: then you should be fine. When do kids get out 34 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: of school these days? I might be out of touch. 35 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: Well it's different. You know some around you know, two 36 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: thirty three o'clock, but ours are only half day, so 37 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 2: they don't get they get out at noon. Okay, well 38 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: that makes more sense. Come on up and get your kids, 39 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 2: that makes more sense for yeah. Yeah. So the good 40 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: news is a lot of those kids are now home 41 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: and probably listening to this program today, and we thank 42 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: them for that, along with all of our other listeners, 43 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: whether you're listening on ESPN fifteen thirty or via the 44 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. If you're listening via the app, two things 45 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: for you. Go ahead and make sure that we're your 46 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: a favorite. Make sure you book mark us preset preset US. 47 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 2: It's really easy to do. And then second, go ahead 48 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 2: and leave us a talk back with that microphone there, 49 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: and we'll get to those talkbacks in our number two today. 50 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: We start our number two with Charlie Goldsmith. We'll catch 51 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 2: up on some Bengals and Reds related topics with him. 52 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: We will talk to Bob Manjean in our number three 53 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: right before quick hits today and we'll talk to Bob 54 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 2: about something we saw earlier today. Austin, just one week 55 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 2: removed from a torn ACL one hundred percent ruptured. According 56 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 2: to Lindsay Vaughn on Twitter, she competed in time trials 57 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 2: today in Milan. Unbelievable and I think was like at 58 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: the time she did it, she was top five in 59 00:02:55,240 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 2: the trials. So a torn ACL one week ago today 60 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 2: competing in the trials at the Olympics this afternoon, that 61 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 2: is incredible stuff. And I kind of just want to 62 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: talk to Bob Mangean and ask him how that happens? 63 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: How is that even possible? Speaking of these set Olympics, 64 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 2: the uh doubles, the mixed doubles curling squad Austin for 65 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 2: the US, off to a four and oh start now, 66 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: two more wins today, four and oh over the Czech 67 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 2: squad and over the Canadians. Four and oh right now 68 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: for mixed doubles curling for the Americans, shout out to them. 69 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: We'll dive into a lot deeper today. NFL awards were 70 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 2: last night, along with the announcement of the Hall of 71 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: Fame class from last night, as well the unfortunate news 72 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: in last night's Hall of Fame class no Ken Anderson, 73 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: no Willie Anderson. We'll dive more into that as the 74 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 2: show goes on this afternoon. The NBA trade deadline has 75 00:03:56,160 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 2: now come and gone. John Morant stayed in Memphis. Yannis 76 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 2: stayed with the Milwaukee Bucks. I think the Clippers. Speaking 77 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: of Clippers, not the weather pattern right now, but the 78 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: team who traded James Harden also traded what is it, 79 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: uh Zubac eve that got Zubac to the Pacers. Not 80 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 2: sure what the Pacers are doing because they're in full 81 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 2: tank mode. But nonetheless, the NBA trade deadline has come 82 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: and gone. And that's a name I have never heard before. 83 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: And how about this. The Charlotte Hornets won their eighth 84 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: straight game last night, longest in franchise history. Okay, moved 85 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: above the Bulls in the standings. Well, that's that was inevitable. 86 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 2: I heard a Chicago sports talk radio host this morning 87 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 2: say that the Bulls have now eclipsed the Packers. Like 88 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: he They've sucked the joy out of basketball for him 89 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: so much that he hates the Bulls more than he 90 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: hates the Packers. That's insane. Could you imagine for a 91 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 2: Chicago being at that point? Man, that's unbelievable. Here's what 92 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 2: else is unbelievable. Em Manuel class A, remember him, the 93 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 2: Guardian's pitcher, The Guardians pitcher. Court documents have now come 94 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 2: out and claim that em Manual class A rigged pitches 95 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 2: for the benefit of betters in at least forty eight 96 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 2: games over two years. Forty eight games, Austin. And as 97 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: you mentioned to me before the show, the most remarkable 98 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 2: thing about this is he was still a damn good 99 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: pitcher over that time period. Yeah, I mean if you're 100 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: gonna have people gambling on sports, and specifically athletes involved 101 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 2: in the games, you would rather them do it this 102 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 2: way so that it doesn't really affect the outcome of 103 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 2: a game. Essentially, he was throwing a lot of the 104 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: bets I believe were on his first pitch of the 105 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 2: at bat. It was like the specific pitch in the 106 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: at bat or the first pitch of the inning where 107 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 2: he would just just dirt a slider and move on 108 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 2: and then respond and get the player out. So it 109 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 2: wasn't like he was giving up runs. He was just 110 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: throwing a ball on purpose. I'm not saying it's right, 111 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 2: and I'm not saying I'm happy about it, but at 112 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: least it wasn't affecting games. It's still very illegal and 113 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 2: he should get all the punishment. You know that that 114 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 2: he is going to get handed down, But at least 115 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 2: it wasn't actually affecting the outcomes. Again, sure, other things 116 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 2: will get to today. Obviously the Super Bowl, will look 117 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 2: ahead to Keys to the Game, will make our picks, 118 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: and a couple other quarterback related questions that I have. 119 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: We'll look at the college basketball weekend ahead u se 120 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: UCF on Sunday Xavier and Saint John's is on Monday, 121 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: Tennessee Kentucky. Saturday, Louisville takes on Wake Forest Saturday. The 122 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,679 Speaker 2: Norse host Milwaukee on Saturday, and Miami travels to Marshall 123 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: to take on the Thundering Herd Saturday as well. Tonight, 124 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 2: also Dayton travels to VCU. Nationally, some really good games 125 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 2: this weekend Yukon, Saint John's is tonight, Duke, North Carolina, Illinois, 126 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: Michigan State Houston BYU really good slate of college hoops 127 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: over the weekend. Of course, with college hoops, we have 128 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 2: to talk about what happened at Fifth Third Arena, and 129 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: I'm not even going to tease anything with that right now. 130 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 2: That needs a whole segment to itself. We'll get to 131 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: that when we come back here. In segment number one. 132 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: U See did blow a fourteen point lead that they 133 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 2: had with sixteen minutes left in the game, and not 134 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 2: so much the loss in itself, but what transpired after 135 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: the loss is something we're gonna have to spend some 136 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 2: time on this afternoon. Jim Schwartz is not not going 137 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 2: to be the defensive coordinator of the Cleveland Browns that 138 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 2: today Austin is a win for the Cincinnati Bengals in 139 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: my opinion, even though Zach Taylor doesn't have to worry 140 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: about chipping Jim Schwartz, He's got to worry about chippy 141 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 2: Miles Garrett. But nonetheless, Jim Schwartz is out as the 142 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns defensive coordinator. Yeah, the indication is from Todd 143 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: Monkin that he wants somebody that sticks to that same 144 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:18,239 Speaker 2: scheme that Jim Schwartz has been running. So the belief 145 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: is that there's a really good chance it's an internal 146 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 2: promotion from somebody who's already on the staff. But it 147 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 2: is at the very least good news for the Bengals 148 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: that Jim Schwartz has gone. And based off of the reporting, 149 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 2: it doesn't seem like he's going to coach this year 150 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 2: at all. Well, that was my question. So he's under 151 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 2: contract with the Browns. Well, he resigned, so he's done 152 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: with that, but he's not gonna coach this year. Put 153 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 2: in a chefty, he's likely to sit out this season. 154 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 2: The World Baseball Classic, we've got a more of an 155 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: in depth look here Austin into the rosters of the 156 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 2: World Baseball Classic. One of those players. Actually two you, 157 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 2: Hennio Suarez and Edward Arroyo, stand out out on these 158 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 2: rosters in the World Baseball Classic. Six total players from 159 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: the Reds organization will be playing in the World Baseball Classic. 160 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 2: It'll be Edwin Arroyo, as you mentioned for Puerto Rico 161 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 2: au Haaneo Suarez with the Reds. In Venezuela. It'll be 162 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 2: David Lordway. I don't know exactly much about him, but 163 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 2: he's currently in a in the Single A League for 164 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:30,719 Speaker 2: the Daytona Tortugas. He'll be pitching for Columbia. Infielder Alexander 165 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: Vargas will play for Cuba. He's with the Dayton Dragons 166 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: right now. And second basement Evon Johnson with the Louisville Bats, 167 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: will play for Great Britain. Meanwhile, a name that I'm 168 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 2: not even going to try to pronounce. Maybe Charlie knows this. 169 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 2: He's a left handed pitcher who is in the Arizona 170 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 2: Complex League with the Reds. I'm gonna says it's Raija 171 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: Teri marite no idea. He's pitching for the Netherlands in 172 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 2: the World Baseball Class Edwin o'royo did Edwin o'royo, in 173 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 2: your opinion, does you have a shot, an outside shot 174 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 2: to make the opening day roster for he's one of 175 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 2: the interesting guys because of the backup second base position. 176 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 2: I think there's a competition there and because there's not 177 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 2: really a true guy. I mean, obviously Spencer Steer South 178 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 2: Stewart are gonna get opportunities. The other guy is Tyler Callahan, 179 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 2: and he's coming off of a major injury. Edward Royo 180 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 2: had a great spring two years ago, tore his shoulder up, 181 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 2: struggled offensively this past year, very similar toly to what 182 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 2: Matt McClain went through. But he's an elite fielder and 183 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 2: somebody that you know, prior to his injury people thought 184 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 2: could be a Gold Glove caliber defender at the big 185 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 2: league level. So yes, I think it's possible that he 186 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 2: makes the team, but he has to rebound offensively in 187 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: a big way. Yeah, you wonder because of you lose 188 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:03,599 Speaker 2: a guy like Gavin Lock. How much this participation for 189 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: Edwin Arroyo takes away his opportunity to compete for the 190 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 2: roster spot. While he's playing in the World Baseball Classic. 191 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 2: Other players are going to be in training camp spring 192 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: training for the Reds trying to get that spot. So 193 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 2: it is interesting. It's probably a tough decision for Edwin Arroyo, 194 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 2: but the opportunity to play for your country is a 195 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 2: pretty cool one. Nonetheless, and not just that. Listen to 196 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 2: some of the names. Seventy eight All Stars, one hundred 197 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 2: and ninety major leaguers have maken up the rosters for 198 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 2: the twenty team World Baseball Classic. Aaron Judge, Shoheo Tani, 199 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:42,239 Speaker 2: Juan Soto, Ronald Acuna, Junior Lyndor, Carlos Carreer, Jave Baiez, 200 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 2: Jose Barreras, Alexis Diaz, Amelio Pagan. Those were pitchers left 201 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: off Puerto Rico's roster due to insurance issues. We've talked 202 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 2: about that, But the American lineup Kyle Riley, Bobby Wood, Junior, 203 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: Bryce Harper, Tyreek Skuball, Paul Skens not too bad, to 204 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 2: say the least. Yoshi Nobu Yamamoto is pitching as well. 205 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 2: The Dominican Republic arguably the best lineup. Juan so To, 206 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 2: Julio Rodriguez, Fernando Tatist Junior, Vlad Guerrero Junior Manny Machado 207 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 2: could tell Marte Jeremy Paania not bad to say the least. 208 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: We mentioned Eu Henney Jo Suarez will be on the 209 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 2: Venezuelan team they lost to the US in the quarterfinal 210 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three. But these are star studded lists 211 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 2: playing in the World Baseball Classic, star studed teams as well. 212 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 2: What else do we have from the world of sports 213 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 2: before we dive more into today? Did you see the 214 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 2: video posted yesterday of Elie de la Cruz I did 215 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 2: outriding the dirt bikes. I don't need that. That makes 216 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 2: me nervous. The video that I saw was only a 217 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 2: few seconds and I didn't really see him riding the bike. Yeah, 218 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: Brad Medo the red I don't know if he just 219 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 2: issued a statement or what. But according to Charlie Goldsmith said, 220 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 2: I talked to Ellie. He wasn't writing it. It was 221 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 2: just for the video. Okay, So that's at least I 222 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 2: don't want to see. I don't need to see any 223 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 2: of that. I don't want to see any of that. 224 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 2: I mean, I know, like the mL the NBA All 225 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 2: Star Game is coming up and Keenan Allen is participating. 226 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 2: There's a couple of football players I'm and Ross Saint 227 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 2: Brown is participating in like the Celebrity Game, Buddy, Yeah, 228 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 2: you don't need to We're good. I'll be honest. I 229 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: looked at that list, and I don't know if this 230 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 2: is just my age showing. There's not a lot of 231 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 2: names on the NBA All Star Celebrity Game that I recognize. 232 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 2: It's not what it used to be. I mean it 233 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 2: has changed quite a bit. I mean if Taco Fall 234 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 2: I did see Taco Falls name. Yeah. Outside of that, 235 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 2: I mean there's some former players in there. There's some 236 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 2: other athletes. I mean, Jeremy Lynn is playing in it, 237 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 2: sham Who's she? And Michael Key he's everywhere? Who shang Chi? 238 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 2: I don't know who that is? Yeah? What about GLO REALA? 239 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 2: Isn't it Rome Flynn dude perfect co founder? Matt is she? 240 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 2: But who's that? I don't know. I think I know 241 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: who that guy is. I don't know anyway, it's just 242 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: a bunch of not really. Williams is playing White Chocolate, 243 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 2: that's right, Reality stars, music producers. I mean that's Keenan Allen. Okay, 244 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 2: maybe I know the Dunk Contest because the stars don't participate, 245 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 2: nobody is is as interested anymore. I think. I still think. 246 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 2: I still like like NBA All Star Weekend. I like 247 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:45,239 Speaker 2: to watch it, but it doesn't feel like a mainstream 248 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 2: event anymore like it used to be. It used to 249 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: be like musty TV. Yeah, make sure you're sitting down 250 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 2: and watch this. Do you remember Jason richardson back? 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That'll turn it. 266 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 2: That basketball over the high reach. 267 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 4: Shall they hold another opponent under one hundred points? 268 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 2: And tonight we get to party like it's. 269 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 5: Nineteen ninety nine. 270 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 4: First time this century, the Charlotte Hornets have won eight 271 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 4: straight games. 272 00:15:57,920 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 2: They improved the. 273 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 6: Twenty four and and have moved into a time for 274 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 6: ten in the Eastern con. 275 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 2: How crazy is it that winning eight straight games gets 276 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 2: you to twenty four and twenty eight. That's how bad 277 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: it was before the winning streak for the Charlotte Hornets. 278 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: That's our win Schulers call of the day. Thanks to 279 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 2: our friends at win Schulers. You already know what it 280 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 2: is Super Bowl weekend. Don't host a party, don't show 281 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 2: up at a party without win Shulers. I would recommend 282 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 2: getting all four flavors and pairing them well with absolutely 283 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 2: anything you'd like to do for your Super Bowl get together. 284 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 2: Let's rip the band aid off. Last night, Fifth Third Arena, 285 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bearcats fell to eleven and twelve on the season, 286 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 2: and doing so, they fell to three and seven in 287 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 2: the Big East. Meanwhile, the West Virginia Mountaineers a new 288 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: head coach, a new roster in Morgantown, West Virginia. They 289 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 2: are fifteen and eight overall and six and four now 290 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 2: in the Big Twelve. Last night. West Virginia was led 291 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 2: by Honter Huff. Hanter Huff was held scoreless for the 292 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 2: first twenty three or so minutes of the game. He 293 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 2: finished with sixteen points. At one point as the Bearcats 294 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 2: build up a fourteen point lead, Honter Huff won on 295 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 2: a fourteen point run by himself, fourteen straight points he scored. 296 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 2: DJ Thomas came into the game late for West Virginia 297 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 2: and scored ten straight points down the stretch. Huff and 298 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 2: Thomas combined in the game for thirty of West Virginia's 299 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 2: fifty nine points. Normally, in college basketball, if you hold 300 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 2: a team to fifty nine points in your building, you 301 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 2: should win that basketball game. You should win a game 302 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 2: at home in which you hold your opponent under sixty 303 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 2: at the half, the Bearcats led thirty to twenty. At 304 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 2: the sixteen minute mark of the second half, they had 305 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 2: increased that lead to fourteen points, and then down the 306 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 2: stretch disaster. I believe, from right around the nine minute 307 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 2: mark to under a minute left in the game, U 308 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 2: See had one made field goal one in a nine 309 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 2: minute span. The offense completely disappeared. Now I feel like 310 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 2: I sound like Wes Miller right now. I'm not making excuses. 311 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: This team went into the game last night without Sean 312 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 2: a Bive, without Mustapha Chom Obviously with that Jayalen Haynes, 313 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 2: who they've been without for much of the season. They 314 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 2: did get Sincere Harris back, although Sincere Harris only was 315 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 2: able to play nine minutes last night. Tyler McKinley was 316 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 2: only able to play twenty one minutes last night. He 317 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 2: was in foul trouble. U See's other big was in 318 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 2: foul trouble at times last night. Bobo Miller had to 319 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 2: play the five for u SEE and quite frankly, it showed. 320 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 2: Bob I finished with fifteen points since Gisel James had eighteen. 321 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 2: Another game for Daydae Thomas where he was unable to 322 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 2: get past double digits. Jalen Celestine was three for twelve 323 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 2: from the field, two for eight from three. He got 324 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 2: some good looks late, but it could not overcome a 325 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 2: collapse down the stretch for the Cincinnati Bearcats. And we're 326 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 2: not talking about just a one off down the stretch. 327 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 2: We're talking about multiple end of game collapses from this 328 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 2: University of Cincinnati men's basketball team, and for Wes Miller. 329 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 2: We've heard angry Wes after the games. We've heard frustrated 330 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 2: Wes Miller after the games. We heard his postgame remarks 331 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 2: against Houston where he talked about the travel and the 332 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: rest and the downtime and the injuries that they were 333 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 2: dealing with. We've seen every range of emotion from Wes 334 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 2: Miller after games. Had not seen the type of emotion 335 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 2: that we heard from Wes Miller after last night's game. 336 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 2: This is Wes Miller immediately after last night's loss, as 337 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 2: he sat down with Dan Horde and Terry. 338 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 7: Nelson, got you were in good position to win this 339 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 7: game with about fifteen minutes to go up by twelve 340 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 7: in West Virginia. Obviously I went out a run from there. 341 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 2: What changed? 342 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 7: What allowed the Mountaineers to pull this game out in 343 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 7: the last fifteen Well, we did. 344 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 3: Such a good job on Huff for a stretch, like 345 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 3: executed our game plan masterfully, and then he got loose. 346 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 3: I think he scored twelve in a row at one 347 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 3: point he did. And then we got tight on offense 348 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 3: and we stopped making plays. We weren't able to convert plays. 349 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 3: We didn't play with the same confidence that we played with. 350 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 3: We got a little tight and we tried to go 351 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 3: with the group that was the best tonight, and they 352 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 3: probably didn't have enough in the tank to do. 353 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 2: What we had to do. But I'll say this. 354 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 3: To you guys, and and to everybody that's listening. 355 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 8: I uh, everybody deserves to be frustrated with us and 356 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 8: with me, and uh, it ain't okay to me. 357 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 3: I am uh, I'm sorry, it's not. It's not okay. 358 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 3: There's no excuse. So I'm I'm sorry to people out there. 359 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 3: We have to finish games. Uh, that's the responsibility of 360 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 3: coaching at this program, and I'm really I'm really sorry. 361 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 3: I promise everybody out there you deserve to be frustrated. 362 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 2: Say what you say or whatever. Uh, you deserve it. 363 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 2: I promise you. 364 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 3: I'm giving every part of my soul to this thing, 365 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 3: and I care deeply about this program. And it ain't okay. 366 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 3: So I don't want anybody to think I think it's okay. 367 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 3: It's not, and people deserve to be frustrated. Nobody is 368 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 3: more frustrated with the results than I. 369 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 2: Okay, let me. I'll honestly say to start that was 370 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 2: tough for me to listen to on the ride last night. 371 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 2: I have poured into the University of Cincinnati. I'm passionate 372 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 2: about the University of Cincinnati, and I know it's an 373 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 2: easy time for everyone to dump on Wes Miller. I 374 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 2: will say this, I truly believe that Wes Miller is 375 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 2: passionate about the University of Cincinnati. I think Wes Miller 376 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 2: is working his tailoff at the University of Cincinnati and 377 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 2: it's unique. And I saw this. I saw this last 378 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 2: night Austin. I think it was Stuart Gilchrist on Twitter 379 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 2: and he threw a list of names out there and 380 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 2: he said that there are plenty of former coaches that 381 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 2: I won't root for again or wouldn't root for when 382 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 2: they left Cincinnati. I think for a lot of UC fans, 383 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 2: that was Brian Kelly, right like if you were if 384 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 2: you were a Bearcat fan or around the Brian Kelly era. 385 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 2: When he left, there was an animosity towards Brian Kelly 386 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 2: and the University of Cincinnati. It was, oh, he just 387 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 2: kind of left U see for dead, lied to people. 388 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 2: And there are a lot of people that, no matter 389 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 2: what Brian Kelly does, will not root for Brian Kelly again. 390 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 2: There are a lot of people that would put Butch 391 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 2: Jones in that name. There are a lot of people 392 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 2: that would say that about Tommy Tupperville, right, go get 393 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 2: a job. There were times where you would sit back 394 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 2: and think, Man, it's Tommy Tupperville really pouring everything he 395 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 2: has into the university. There are other names that you 396 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 2: could have on that list as well. Wes Miller's not one. 397 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 2: And that's what Stewart tweeted last night, and I couldn't agree, 398 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 2: and I think it summarizes things perfectly, Like, you can't 399 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 2: listen to that last night, regardless if you think a 400 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 2: coach should handle himself that way or not. You can't 401 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 2: listen to Wes Miller last night and then come back 402 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 2: and say, well, he doesn't care about the team, he 403 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 2: doesn't care about the university, he doesn't care about winning. 404 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 2: He truly does, and he's truly now a coach that 405 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 2: has overwhelmed with everything that has happened this season, and 406 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 2: last night was a coach emotional and right or wrong, 407 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 2: opened up about his struggles and where this is at now. 408 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 2: On the other side of that, you're going to have 409 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 2: people and you can't argue that to say he's just 410 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 2: over he's in over his head and whether that's you 411 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 2: see in the future, whether that's somewhere else. Hopefully he 412 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 2: can take things from this year and go on and 413 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 2: have success, because that's Austin. That's my biggest thing. I've 414 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 2: said this so many times. I think Wes Miller's a 415 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:50,959 Speaker 2: great dude. He's been a great person to me, and 416 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 2: I think Wes Miller works his ass off at coaching. 417 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 2: I think he literally pours everything into the job. I 418 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 2: think he's recruited talented players. I think he's recruited good players, 419 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 2: good young men to the University of Cincinnati. Have they 420 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 2: dealt with injuries, Absolutely, but you can't argue that the 421 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 2: struggle has been clear that in high leverage coaching situations 422 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 2: he's been out coached. It's overwhelming at this point. So 423 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 2: on one end, I'm not going to pretend that I 424 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 2: don't get angry when this team loses, because I hang 425 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 2: on every You know this about me more than anyone, Austin, 426 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 2: Like it's not a ploy for me on air, Like 427 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 2: I truly believe in this team, Like there was part 428 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 2: of me yesterday that's in my mind, Like what if 429 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 2: they win eight out of nine down the stretch, Like 430 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 2: I always think to that because I want nothing more 431 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 2: than UC to be successful, and damn if I don't 432 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 2: respect the work that wes Miller puts in, and as 433 00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 2: a former UC athlete, I respect his passion for the 434 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 2: university and his want two to win. Regardless of last night, 435 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 2: his drive and his want two, you could tell the 436 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 2: dude cares, because if he didn't care, he'd come out 437 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 2: and say like, wow, whatever. I think he truly cares. 438 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 2: I think he's now so far in over his head 439 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 2: with the struggles of the season. But Brian Kelly left 440 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 2: this place and no one cared, no one wanted to 441 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 2: see him win. I don't think that'll be like that. 442 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 2: For whatever happens where West goes, I want him to 443 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 2: succeed because I do genuinely think he's a good guy. 444 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 2: It's it's not here. The unfortunate reality of life is 445 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 2: that sometimes, whether it's in basketball, in work, in sports, 446 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 2: whatever it is, the unfortunate reality of life is sometimes 447 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 2: your best isn't good enough. And that's the case with 448 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 2: Wes Miller. He's broken, Yep, a guy yesterday that was 449 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 2: on the verge of or if not in tears. In 450 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 2: the post game, the video of him talking to the 451 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 2: fans in the tunnel. You can be a good guy, 452 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 2: you can work really hard, you can be well liked, 453 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 2: you can be respected, you can be nice behind closed doors, 454 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 2: which I think he is, although none of it matters 455 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 2: if you don't have results. And that is the unfortunate 456 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 2: reality of the business of which in which wes Miller 457 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 2: is in. And I think he's at the point where 458 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 2: they really need to go their separate ways. I think 459 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 2: it's you see, and wes Miller and his agent need 460 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 2: to come together and say, listen, this is not benefiting anybody, 461 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,959 Speaker 2: because once again the story is about what wes Miller 462 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 2: did and said and reacted after the game, and the 463 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 2: conversation is again about wes Miller being in over his 464 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 2: head and that can't be the talking point surrounding your 465 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 2: basketball program. And so he's at the point now where 466 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 2: if he continues down this path, he's damaging his ability, 467 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 2: or his reputation or his prospects in the long term future. 468 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 2: And for you see, they've got to do something to 469 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 2: show the fan base that this isn't acceptable to them. 470 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 2: Being a good guy and working hard. We talk about 471 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 2: this all the time with players. Oh they play hard, well, yeah, 472 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 2: that's a prerequisite, that's expected. I expect that from the 473 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 2: basketball coach. I don't expect, after all these years, in 474 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 2: all these games to see the same problems and continually 475 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 2: get out coached and struggle to handle your emotions post game. 476 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 2: That stuff tells me he doesn't have a good enough 477 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 2: hold on himself and on the program to be able 478 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 2: to turn it around. So, whether you come to some 479 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 2: sort of mutual agreement to part ways where maybe you 480 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 2: don't pay the whole buyout, maybe you just ended after 481 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 2: these next few weeks, who knows. But something's got to 482 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 2: happen because Wes Miller is broken and the Bearcat basketball 483 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 2: program is going nowhere. I sent messages out last night 484 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 2: to friends of mine that are UC fans. It sucks, 485 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 2: like in every way, it sucks. It sucks because at 486 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 2: a point I feel bad that that he is in 487 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 2: over his head. It sucks because this team continues to lose, 488 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 2: and it sucks Austin to hear coach say I'm giving 489 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 2: every ounce that I have, but what result do they 490 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 2: have to show for it? They continue to lose in 491 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 2: the same way every single time, and it's just it's 492 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 2: infuriating and it's maddening, and it's frustrating, and it's so 493 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 2: many different things, but at the core of it, it 494 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 2: just sucks that this situation where this team is at, 495 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 2: it's brutal on all ends. And he's had former players 496 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 2: come to his defense, and I heard Bob Huggins say 497 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 2: good things about him the other day. At the end 498 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 2: of it, at the root of it all, you're in 499 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 2: the Big Twelve, you know. And I think that's to 500 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 2: your point, Austin, the Big Twelve is that's the big 501 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 2: boy league, right like, that's the league that everyone looks 502 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 2: to right now. If you want to talk about where 503 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 2: college basketball starts and stops, go, look in the AP 504 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 2: Top twenty five right now, number one in the country, 505 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 2: Big twelve, number seven in the country, Big twelve, number 506 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 2: eight in the country, Big twelve, number eleven in the country, 507 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 2: Big twelve, number thirteen in the country, Big twelve, number 508 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 2: sixteen in the country, the Big Twelve. This is the 509 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 2: big leagues. And to be emotional, that's fine. But to 510 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 2: be at the point where I listened and saw west 511 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 2: Miller at last night, you think, man, can that be 512 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 2: the guy that is leading your program in the hardest 513 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 2: and toughest Basketball Conference in college basketball. I'm sure the 514 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 2: players are gutted. I'm sure the players are devastated. And again, 515 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 2: players didn't roll over. They're not not giving effort. They're 516 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 2: also not executing for anything at the end of games. 517 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 2: They're also not improving. The development's not there. They've had 518 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 2: more than a handful of winnable games that would have 519 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 2: at least shown progress. Where this team is at in 520 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 2: year five of the west Miller era it is it's 521 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 2: a crossroads. And I mean, Austin, We've literally heard this 522 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 2: season every single range of emotion in postgame interviews from 523 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 2: West Miller, every one of them. It's almost becoming, well, 524 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:20,479 Speaker 2: I got to get to the car because I got 525 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 2: to hear what's going to be said. I got to 526 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 2: hear how this is handled. And oh, by the way, 527 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 2: there is still eight more regular season games of this. 528 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 2: You still play three top fifteen teams. Doesn't get any better, 529 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 2: it doesn't get any easier. And again, it's the big leagues. 530 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 2: This is the mountaintop of college basketball. You've got to 531 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 2: be equipped, not just from a scheme standpoint, but emotionally 532 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 2: to handle it as well. And that's what I'm saying, 533 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 2: is like like this, it's not working, So it's time 534 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 2: to to bite the bullet here like they're going nowhere. 535 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 2: They've been going nowhere, And doesn't matter if he's a 536 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 2: good guy, doesn't matter if he works hard, the results 537 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 2: aren't there. Yeah, And it's a result driven sports world. 538 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 2: That's it. Every sport result driven. I mean, Austin, how 539 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 2: many times we had the conversation about Zach Taylor as 540 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 2: the head coach of the Bengals. Zach Taylor Brian Callahan 541 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 2: picked up the bill for Jay Morrison and his late 542 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 2: wife celebration of life. Great dude, Right, people still question 543 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 2: coaching at the core of it and and getting over 544 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 2: the hump. There's a fine line. Zach Taylor is an 545 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 2: awesome dude. Wes Miller is an awesome dude. There are 546 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 2: times though that that just doesn't mean you're going to 547 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 2: be successful in your job. And Zach Taylor has taken 548 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,479 Speaker 2: his team a heck of a lot further. And there 549 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 2: are a lot more believers in Zach Taylor as a 550 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 2: head coach than anything else. Yeah, you know, it goes 551 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 2: that like with with Mike. You know, Mike Ditko wasn't 552 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 2: the nicest guy, but he had a lot of success. 553 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 2: Bill Belichick not a nice guy, but he worked hard 554 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 2: and he is going to be a Hall of Famer 555 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 2: and has won a ton of Super Bowls. Bill Bill 556 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 2: Parcells wasn't a nice guy. He won a bunch of games. Yep, 557 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 2: there's no prerequisite, you know, there's like no thing that Jenny, Okay, 558 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 2: if you're a nice guy, you're going to be successful. 559 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 2: If you're a bad guy, you're gonna be success. It 560 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 2: doesn't matter. It's just all that matters at the end 561 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 2: of the day, is the column in the W and 562 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 2: the column in the L, the number in those two columns. 563 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 2: It's all matters. And very clearly it's not been good 564 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 2: enough for UC basketball. We'll take a break, we'll come 565 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 2: back more to go. Your phone calls five, one, three, seven, four, nine, 566 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. We got a loaded college basketball weekend ahead. 567 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 2: Local teams in action will have a little bit more 568 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 2: college hoops, and then we'll switch gears to football base 569 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 2: Baul Charlie Goldsmith and so much more along the way. 570 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station, Hey Alexa, who got hurt? 571 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,439 Speaker 5: Getting ESPN fifteen thirty from iHeartRadio. 572 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 2: Let's get back in the action. 573 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 1: Tony Pike, since three sixty is back now on ESPN 574 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: fifteen thirty. 575 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 2: Welcome back since three sixty rolling along hour number one 576 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 2: on a Friday, ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station thanks 577 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 2: to Skyline Chili. By the way, I believe we're having 578 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 2: some difficulties right now with our telephones. Uh yeah, we're 579 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 2: working on it all right. There's an issue where it's 580 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 2: not just our station. I think it's the whole market 581 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 2: at the moment. So we're going to guess that this 582 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 2: happens sometimes. Yeah, once it gets rectified, we we'll let 583 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 2: you know. We'll welcome your phone calls. Also to wrap 584 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 2: up the conversation around you see, and just the results 585 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 2: Austin just this year alone, two and eleven in Quad 586 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 2: one or Quad two opportunities. Also a Quad four home 587 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 2: loss against Eastern Michigan. That is how you sum up 588 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 2: five straight missed NCAA tournaments with Wes Miller as the 589 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 2: head coach. Bear Katzer. It's towards the end of the year. 590 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 2: At times with the Bengals defense, you could say, Okay, 591 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 2: this person's playing better, this person's taking a step forward. 592 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 2: Miles Murphy, DJ Turner even Demetrius Knight a little bit, 593 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 2: You're like, Okay, there's something there. There's none of that 594 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 2: with you, see yeah, And that I think is the 595 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:53,240 Speaker 2: biggest issue. There's not even hints of improvement by anyone. 596 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 2: It's always the fine line of like the players coach 597 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 2: because I agree, like you hear former players and current 598 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 2: players will go to bat for Wes Miller because he's 599 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 2: a nice guy. Brian Kelly wasn't a nice guy, but 600 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 2: Brian Kelly got wins. Like I tell people all the time, 601 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 2: the way in which Brian Kelly coached me was the 602 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 2: only way probably for me to be successful. Like if 603 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 2: Brian Kelly was just a nice guy on the sidelines 604 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,240 Speaker 2: to me, it probably wouldn't have worked out. I needed 605 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 2: the the energy that Brian Kelly brought. I needed the 606 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 2: aggression had times. I needed the anger that Brian Kelly 607 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,280 Speaker 2: brought because I responded to that. I wouldn't have responded 608 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:35,919 Speaker 2: as well if Brian Kelly just put his arm around 609 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 2: me and said all right, let's get him next series. 610 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 3: You know. 611 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,439 Speaker 2: And as a player, you like that in a coach 612 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 2: because you feel like the coach is your friend. But 613 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 2: at the same time, coach doesn't need to be your friend, 614 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 2: right Coaches, As you said, Austin, you're trying to improve 615 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 2: these guys. You're trying to make him better. You're trying 616 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 2: to win games. There's a fine line in that, and 617 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 2: they have lost far more than they have won. And 618 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 2: I get being in the Big twelve, but so many, 619 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 2: so many winnable games that have just slipped through in 620 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 2: the final minutes of the game that it's beyond beyond frustrating. 621 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,320 Speaker 2: UC is back in action on Sunday. They take on 622 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 2: the UCF Knights at Fifth Third Arena at two o'clock. 623 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 2: Xavier travels to Saint John's on Monday night. Saturday Slate. 624 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 2: Tennessee is at Rupp Arena to take on the Wildcats. 625 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 2: Louisville is at Wake Forest. Milwaukee is on the way 626 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 2: to Truest Arena to take on the North on Saturday. 627 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 2: Dayton heads to VCU tonight in Miami of Ohio ahead 628 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 2: of that ESBN National TV matchup next Friday against ou 629 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:48,240 Speaker 2: is on the road at Marshall Tomorrow. National Top twenty 630 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 2: five matchups, the top two teams in the Big East 631 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:55,320 Speaker 2: square off tonight. Yukon is at Saint John's rivalry weekend 632 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 2: at Duke at North Carolina, you get Illinois at mississ 633 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 2: Michigan State. That's a pair top ten teams. And in 634 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 2: the Big twelve Houston at BYU Saturday night as well. 635 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 2: That wraps up a big college basketball weekend. Let's talk 636 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 2: for a few moments when we get back about the 637 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 2: NFL awards and Hall of Fame inductees from tomorrow night. 638 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 2: We'll tie that into a conversation with Charlie Goldsmith to 639 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,720 Speaker 2: kick off Hour number two. It happens next on ESPN 640 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 2: fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports. 641 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 4: Station WCKY Cincinnati, and iHeartRadio Station Guaranteed Human ESPN fifteen 642 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 4: thirty I Heard. 643 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 2: Radio from the Any Weather, Heating and Air Temstar Weathers Center, 644 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 2: here's your forecast. 645 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 6: Heading to day break Friday. We'll see a morning temperature 646 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 6: at twenty five at seven am and a chance of 647 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 6: flurries as we head to mid morning, light snow that 648 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 6: continues through midday and a high at thirty six at 649 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 6: night and evening snow shower or two, and we'll see 650 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 6: in a quimulation of an inch and a half. By 651 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 6: then hello, temperature down to ten more cold air for 652 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 6: the weekend. That's the forecast. I'm nine First Warning Chief 653 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,320 Speaker 6: Meteorologist Steve Rawley. 654 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 2: This report is sponsored by Apollo Home, your source for plumbing, 655 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 2: heating and air and electrical when. 656 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 5: You're home flow So in fifteen thirty. 657 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 2: Welcome back Cinty three to sixty thanks to Skyline Chile 658 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. We will dive 659 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 2: into the Hall of Fame class in our number three 660 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 2: because I want to have more of a conversation as 661 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:48,839 Speaker 2: it betrains to Willie Anderson and Ken Anderson before we 662 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 2: get to Charlie Goldsmith. Though, we do have the NFL 663 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 2: honor awards that were divvied up last night. The winners 664 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 2: from last night off Player of the Year Jackson Smith 665 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 2: and Jigba no Brainer, Defensive Rookie of the Year Carson Schweisinger 666 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 2: from the Cleveland Browns, NFL Assistant Coach of the Year 667 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:15,839 Speaker 2: Josh McDaniels, New England Patriots Coach of the Year. This 668 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 2: Austin was one I thought was an extremely extremely interesting vote. 669 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 2: Mike Vrabel becomes the Coach of the Year in the NFL. 670 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey is your comeback Player of the Year. The 671 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 2: Protector of the Year guy we talked about for seemingly 672 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 2: months in Cincinnati in the offseason past. Joe Tooney, the 673 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 2: guard for the Chicago Bears, is your Protector of the 674 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 2: Year in the National Football League. Miles Garrett Defensive Player 675 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 2: of the Year. Who am I missing outside of the MVP? 676 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,240 Speaker 2: What other award am I missing? I think that pretty 677 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 2: much sums at A comeback Player of the Year was 678 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 2: Christian man Ceterreld McMillan Offensive Rookie of the Year. Yeah, 679 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 2: and then of course Matthew Stafford is your MVP. He 680 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 2: edged out Drake May by five points in a really 681 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 2: cool moment last night. As Stafford is on the stage 682 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 2: with his four daughters accepting the award, he dropped at 683 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 2: the end of it that he's so much looking forward 684 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 2: to his kids being on the sideline when they run 685 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 2: it back again next year. And we've talked about this 686 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 2: off air, Austin. That felt like the first time that 687 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 2: he had confirmed that to Sean McVay and Kyrin Williams 688 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 2: and many others based on their reactions in the stands. Yeah, 689 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 2: I mean the way that they kind of jumped out 690 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 2: of their seat and ran, almost ran up onto the stage. 691 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 2: I felt like Sean McVay wanted to do Yeah. I 692 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 2: thought that was pretty cool. It was a very very 693 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:49,240 Speaker 2: cool moment as the awards happened. Friend of the show 694 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 2: Sam Monton shared last night that his vote went to 695 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 2: Justin Herbert first place vote. His first place vote went 696 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:08,760 Speaker 2: to Justin Herbert, and the idea behind this is essentially 697 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 2: what he's leaning to is what Justin Herbert had around him, 698 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 2: the lack of protection, and if he were given the 699 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 2: same complement of weapons around him in protection, that he 700 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 2: would put up those type of numbers as well. Is 701 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 2: that the gist of it? Would you say, what is 702 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 2: your thought of that thinking? From Sam Monson? Because this 703 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 2: is obviously blown up nationally from Sam Monson. Sam's explanation 704 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 2: in revealing of his vote has gone ridiculously viral, nine 705 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 2: million views on Twitter, his address has been posted on Reddit, 706 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:50,320 Speaker 2: He's been threatened. Reaction to this number one is absurd, 707 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 2: and I just appreciate that Sam was willing to put 708 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 2: it out there and say, hey, here was my reasoning. 709 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 2: And you want to know why people don't want transparency 710 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 2: in Hall of Fame voting is because of reactions like this. Yep, 711 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 2: but he posted that Justin Herbert had the worst offensive 712 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,840 Speaker 2: line in the NFL all season, and despite that, he 713 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 2: was working miracles in almost every game. Stafford's offensive line 714 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 2: became two fifths as bad as Herbert's for five minutes 715 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:23,760 Speaker 2: and he became a turnover Howitzer, Herbert embodied the word value, 716 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 2: so he was looking at it from a very literal 717 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 2: point of view in terms of the value that Justin 718 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:33,360 Speaker 2: Herbert brought to his team as compared to the value 719 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:38,280 Speaker 2: that Matt Stafford brought to his team with the supporting 720 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,360 Speaker 2: cast around him. And that's an argument that I'm willing 721 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,839 Speaker 2: to accept, Like, Okay, yeah, that makes sense to me. 722 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 2: The reason why people are mad is because that one 723 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:52,959 Speaker 2: vote was the difference between Stafford winning it and Drake 724 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 2: May winning it. That's how close it was, and so 725 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 2: that's where the anger comes from. Yeah, And that's the thing, Like, 726 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,319 Speaker 2: why in this country can we not just have a 727 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 2: civilized reaction and say, you know what, maybe I don't disagree, 728 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 2: but I can see Sam's thought process and I respect 729 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,360 Speaker 2: his thought process correct, But we can't do that in 730 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 2: this country anymore. It resorts to what to hate, to threats. 731 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 2: I mean, we're talking about threatning a man's life because 732 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 2: of who he voted for for MVP. Crazy that that's 733 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 2: how crazy this is. And the replies that that have 734 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 2: flooded in, and Sam has comment on a bunch of them, 735 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 2: He's retweeted a bunch of them. So you could go 736 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 2: to to Sam Monson and and uh and see his 737 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,760 Speaker 2: ex and where this is posted at sam monson NFL. 738 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,399 Speaker 2: But I understand and I respect his reasoning. I don't 739 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,399 Speaker 2: agree with it in the voting process, but I can 740 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 2: see how he got to that conclusion. And you know, again, 741 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 2: these votes are taken before the playoffs start, so you 742 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,360 Speaker 2: can't hold of into account what's happened in the playoffs 743 00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,839 Speaker 2: and Drake may now playing for a Super Bowl. Those 744 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 2: those votes were already taken and already cast. But it's 745 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 2: just it's you wouldn't talk about the wild wild West 746 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,359 Speaker 2: man here he is. He puts his name on it, 747 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 2: he gives his reasoning, he gives his explanation. And to 748 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 2: your point, if it's not a close vote, you're probably 749 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:16,799 Speaker 2: it's probably not a big as big of a deal 750 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,959 Speaker 2: as it is now. But the fact that it could 751 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:24,319 Speaker 2: have single handedly changed who wins MVP obviously it has 752 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 2: a little bit more power, but I appreciate the honesty 753 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,879 Speaker 2: and for Sam Monson UH to take a stand on 754 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 2: on where he's at. With that, we'll talk about the 755 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame announcement and when we get into our 756 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,280 Speaker 2: number three. For now, we'll break. We'll get to Charlie 757 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 2: Goldsmith next. On ESPN fifteen thirty. Cincinnati sports station k 758 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 4: WISE Cincinnati, make us the number one pre set on 759 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 4: your car radio and on the Free Knew It Improved, 760 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 4: iHeartRadio app Free never sounded so good, ESPN fifteen thirty