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Go to iHeartRadio dot com slash teachers today. 6 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 3: All right, if you sufficiently calmed down Ryan Burns go 7 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 3: for Illustrated dot Com. 8 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 4: Also moonlighting as a Twins Daily. 9 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 5: What will be the word for it, Well, I'm just 10 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 5: trying to get rid of my pole ed pocket protector 11 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 5: right here now. 12 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. That was a good rant. I knew you 13 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 3: loved ball. I didn't know it was going to get 14 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 3: you to that level, but that was good. I appreciate it. 15 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 3: I hope you feel better. I don't think you do, though. 16 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 4: I got a weight off my shoulders. 17 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, what's the headline right now for Gopher football? 18 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 3: Before we talk about national stuff and the chaos that 19 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 3: is December and it appears to be chaotic this time 20 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 3: of year. 21 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 4: There's only one transfer portal window. It's going to open January. Second. 22 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 3: There's a lot of what they call in the business 23 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 3: pre portaling, which is a fancy way to say tampering. 24 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 3: I think, yes, pre portaling going on right now, But 25 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 3: what is the headline? What are we a week and 26 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 3: a day right, Yeah, a week and a day from No, 27 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 3: a week and two days from the Rate Bowl. No 28 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 3: longer the guaranteed rate bawl. They're not going to guarantee 29 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 3: the rate. They'll give you a rate. You don't know 30 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 3: what the hell's going to be questions and it's not 31 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 3: going to be guaranteed. But it's the Rate Bowl A 32 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 3: week from Friday, Gophers, New Mexico. 33 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: What's the headline right now around the program? 34 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 5: Oh, there's so many different directions you could go with it, 35 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 5: I think, especially now that it's it's weird to say this, 36 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 5: but we're going to be going into year ten of 37 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 5: PJ Fleck here in Dinky Town. 38 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 4: It's crazy. 39 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 5: I still remember asking him out in Vegas prior to 40 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 5: the season a big ten media days. I looked him 41 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 5: in the eyes on the record and said, did you 42 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 5: think you were going to be here this long? Because 43 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 5: I didn't, and he was like, Nope, didn't think I was. 44 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 5: But I'm happy to still be here and happy to 45 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 5: still be an above five hundred team and I think 46 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 5: for a lot of fans, especially casual fans in this market, 47 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 5: they want to see them have an Indiana type of 48 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 5: season or have a twenty nineteen type of season again. 49 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 5: And I get the twenty nineteen vibe where that we 50 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 5: all want that, and the question is how do you 51 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 5: get back there? And I think when you look at 52 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 5: the direction of this program where your quarterback came out 53 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 5: with your guy Mike Grimm and said he's going to 54 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 5: be coming back, I can tell you that he resigned 55 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 5: before a national signing day. He wanted to get that 56 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 5: done right after the Wisconsin game so he can start 57 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 5: to talk to guys in the portals, start to figure 58 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 5: out who he's going to be throwing the football to. 59 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,839 Speaker 4: In Drake Lindsay. But it's how do they get back 60 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 4: to that? 61 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 5: And I think it starts with how do you build 62 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 5: again in the portal where you're going to be losing 63 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,399 Speaker 5: a lot of players, especially on the defensive line, where 64 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 5: you're only as good as you are upfront. And that's 65 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 5: where I'm so tired of talking about the offensive and 66 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,399 Speaker 5: defensive lines. But frankly, the offensive line may have been 67 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 5: the weakest link that I've seen a Gopher offensive line 68 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 5: in Pj's now ten years here what it will be 69 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 5: next year. And if you're not if you're not really 70 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 5: good up front, it's going to be tough to run 71 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 5: the football. And they stunk it running the football, and 72 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 5: it's tough to protect your quarterback and thinks of that nature. 73 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 5: But it's when you look at how it has to 74 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 5: go over these next four to six weeks where the 75 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 5: portal opens on January second, closes for new entrants at 76 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,119 Speaker 5: midnight for Cinderella there on January the eighteenth, they have 77 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 5: to hit in the portal with raising the floor and 78 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 5: raising the ceiling where you have immediate needs at. 79 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 4: Right tackle, defensive line. 80 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 5: I tell you, I'd like somebody that Drake Lindsay can 81 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 5: go throw the ball to that actually can have something 82 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 5: called the contested catch that I continue to hear about 83 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 5: but don't watch consistently enough at hunting a Bank Stadium. 84 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 5: But it's how can PJ get from the six seven, 85 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 5: eight wins that he has been incredibly consistent at here 86 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 5: to getting back to a ten win season that puts 87 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 5: you in this era on the cusp of a college 88 00:03:58,840 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 5: football playoff. 89 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 3: Let's talk about Drake Lindsay and let's let's stay with 90 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 3: the portal thing for a second. Actually, because we just 91 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 3: talked payroll last segment talking about the twins, how do 92 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 3: you feel about how they are positioned now financially with Revschaer, 93 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 3: Dinky Town athletes, the whole deal, because I think I 94 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 3: think that's the question I always get from people, and 95 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 3: you know that I went on the rant and the 96 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 3: parent of spare rant that people said, well, yeah, Drake's 97 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 3: playing good football, too bad they're going to lose him 98 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 3: at the end of the year, which I thought was 99 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 3: stupid at the time, and obviously it was proven to 100 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 3: be stupid. Yeah, I'm not saying he'll never leave, because 101 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 3: if to your point, if he's getting sacked fifty times 102 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 3: next season and they don't have any wide receivers, he's 103 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 3: probably not going to stay. But it wasn't as easy 104 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 3: as he's good to go get a bag somewhere. Someone's 105 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 3: going to pay him, which just drives me crazy, as 106 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 3: you know. So give us their pole add number or 107 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 3: not number, but their poll add positioning in terms of 108 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 3: where they used to be to where they are now 109 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 3: going into the portal season means money season, and really 110 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 3: even player retention season means money season. 111 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 4: How they're positioned now. 112 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 5: Well, you have to remember, and again for those listening, 113 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 5: there was a house settlement where now schools can pay players. 114 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 5: And that's one of the things where all of these 115 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 5: Power five college football teams have, say fourteen million dollars 116 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 5: immediately coming out of the athletic department budget to pay 117 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 5: their players. Now, not every player is going to get 118 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 5: the same amount of money. That's not how this works. 119 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 5: I would tell you Drake Lindsay is easily making a 120 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 5: million dollars, Okay, I would tell you that for teams 121 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 5: like Brett's Wisconsin Badger team and Iowa team that's going 122 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 5: to be losing Mark Ronowski Indiana. There's a lot of 123 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 5: teams that are going to be looking for an established 124 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 5: veteran portal quarterback. They're going to be easily one and 125 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 5: a half, if not two plus million dollars. 126 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 4: Right. 127 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: You throw Nebraska in there now too, correct. 128 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 5: I mean that is not a place where Minnesota can 129 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 5: live because if you have to think about it in 130 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 5: terms of what you have for a budget, and again, 131 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 5: from what I understand Dinkeytown athletes, Minnesota is thatile collective 132 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 5: is giving Fleck and his staff more money this year 133 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 5: than they did last year. I don't know the exact 134 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 5: number to that, but I would even say you have 135 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 5: to think about it almost as an NFL type of 136 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 5: strategy where you don't want to have the highest paid 137 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 5: players on the team being guys like running backs and 138 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 5: safeties because it's hard to then build an offensive line, 139 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 5: a defensive line, things of that nature. 140 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 4: So it's they have money. 141 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 5: But I also think part of the Signetti conversation where 142 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 5: you and I both have said for a very long 143 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 5: time since he took over the Indiana job and has 144 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 5: done amazing things for them, amazing things again the number 145 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 5: one team in the top there's a reason he is 146 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 5: the coach of the year, and he gets the most 147 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 5: out of his players, the most out of his coaches. 148 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 4: He's an outstanding coach. 149 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 5: But I also think people need to look at when 150 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 5: did Mark Cuban leave his prominent position with the Dallas 151 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 5: Mavericks and how does that coincide with some of the 152 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 5: donations that have now since come into the Indiana football 153 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 5: program to elevate their assistant coach pool where they've got 154 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 5: the Broyls Award winner and their defensive coordinator, and I 155 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 5: mean even the Heisman Trophy winner who I think. I 156 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 5: know I had him number one on my Heisman ballot, 157 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 5: and Fernando Mendoz, I think you did too. 158 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 4: I sure did. I thought it was an easy call. 159 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 5: I mean they went out in the portal and bought 160 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 5: him from millions of dollars from cal like they were 161 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 5: able to go spend money because they had money. And 162 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 5: that's a great thing for Indiana. And I don't think 163 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 5: they should be taking away from everything that they've done, 164 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 5: because we've been screaming from the mountain tops for more 165 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 5: parody in college football, and now you have. Indiana is 166 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 5: the number one team in the country right now. So 167 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 5: it's trying to make sure if you're a team like Minnesota, 168 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 5: you've you've done the most difficult thing in football and 169 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 5: that you found. 170 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 4: A good quarterback. Yeah, and he's good. 171 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 5: He is, and I think if you continue to build 172 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 5: around him, he can be even better and then you 173 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 5: can actually have a run game with guys like Darius 174 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,119 Speaker 5: Taylor if he can stay healthy, which is a giant 175 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 5: question mark into twenty twenty six. But he needs an 176 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 5: offensive line and I think that's something they have to 177 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 5: continue to build around. 178 00:07:58,600 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 3: All right, when we come back with Burns, we'll talk 179 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 3: a little bit more Gophers. I want to get into 180 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 3: the Michigan conversation. I also want to talk College Football 181 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 3: Playoff with him, because, believe it or not, it starts 182 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 3: this weekend. 183 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 4: A lot more to get to with Burns. 184 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 3: If you have a question for him, six four six 185 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 3: eighty six is the Bradshawn Brian Kampan text line? Tweet 186 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 3: it either one of us. We'd love for you to 187 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 3: do that, and we will be back with the Twins dailies. 188 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 3: Ryan Burns, Ah. 189 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 2: Every game is a big game when it's wild hockey, 190 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 2: especially now. Feel the intensity and excitement at Grand Casino 191 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 2: Arena this season. Here your tickets day, Wild dot Com 192 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 2: slash tickets, Wild dot Com slash tickets. 193 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 3: I like this question to Ryan Burns from Gopher Illustrated 194 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 3: dot com. You can follow him at Ryan Burns and 195 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 3: on Twitter. You hear him on Gopher grid Iron Radio. 196 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 3: You hear him on the Parent of Spare podcast. He 197 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 3: joins me every Sunday on Go for Football Sunday. He's 198 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 3: one of the best. He's one of my guys, and 199 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever asked you this or that 200 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 3: you and I have ever talked about this, but it's 201 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 3: an interest in question. Why are NIL donations, fundraising payments, 202 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 3: et cetera so secretive and vague? 203 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 5: Why are they? Yes, how would you like to take this? 204 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 5: I mean, I mean it's something to where it's becoming 205 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 5: more and more transparent every year, because the days of 206 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 5: me getting a phone call from someone saying, Chipskoggin's Tennessee 207 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 5: volunteers gave this football player one hundred and fifty thousand 208 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 5: dollars in a McDonald's bagh, which that is one hundred 209 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 5: percent a true story that I have been told. Like 210 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 5: that is how teams in the SEC used to get 211 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 5: things done. Was you mean, you just give kids cash 212 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,599 Speaker 5: and bags and you go from there. And it's a 213 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 5: lot harder to do that now because there is more 214 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 5: and more violations and more and more I guess technically 215 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 5: repercussions for things like that, and they're trying to get 216 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 5: more and more things above. But it is fascinating that 217 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 5: even in a place like say the SEC, where you 218 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 5: have the SEC and the Big ten and the two 219 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,599 Speaker 5: big power two schools, that to even find out what 220 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 5: Gunner Stockton at Georgia Mayde is just so hush hushed 221 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,599 Speaker 5: that even the people who do know can keep it squashed. 222 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 4: It's truly amazing, and I think it's just. 223 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 5: Because no one wants to alert their competitor to a 224 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 5: competitive advantage of what would be Well, I know this 225 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 5: guy is making xyz amount, yet we're not going to 226 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 5: let our school amounts get out. 227 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 4: It's I want it all to be above board. 228 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 5: And I think in the next five to ten years, 229 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 5: this whole thing with college specifically college football athletes, is 230 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 5: going to be going towards a collective bargaining agreement because 231 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 5: I think both sides are getting tired, and specifically donors 232 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 5: are getting tired of not knowing complete transparency as to 233 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 5: where their money is going. Sure, and look, if I 234 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 5: had had that type of money and I had that 235 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 5: type of generational wealth, I personally i'd go buy one 236 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 5: hundred acres and get out of here. But if you 237 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 5: want to go buy a starting quarterback, you can do 238 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 5: that too, right, But you don't. 239 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 3: Those those guys can do both. Yes, those guys can 240 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 3: do that and whatever else they want. 241 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 5: The decision is between my third yeah yacht, mister polad 242 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 5: or if it's going to buy a starting quarterback. 243 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 4: I get it, but it's it's becoming more above board. 244 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 5: But that's the thing about college football is you don't know, 245 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 5: I mean, just the way that the rules are set. 246 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 4: Up right now. 247 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 3: So there's been a lot of money figures that have 248 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 3: been thrown around. Michigan State just made a big announcement 249 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 3: that they're going to raise a billion dollars for their 250 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 3: athletic department. A billion, and that's a legit number, a billion. 251 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 3: They got four hundred and one million from one guy 252 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 3: who started some kind of financial company or something, right, 253 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 3: and he's buddies with Tom Izzo. Illinois just had a 254 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 3: couple hundred million dollar donation that was announced by one individual. 255 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 3: And so that led me to and I've always said, 256 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 3: and I've contended that the worst loss in Minnesota sports 257 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 3: history was t Denny Sanford. It wasn't Michigan on Friday Night. 258 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 3: It wasn't the overtime game in the Frozen Four a 259 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 3: few years ago. It wasn't to Iowa in two thousand 260 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 3: and nine or Wisconsin in two thousand and nine. 261 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 4: It was teed any Sandford. 262 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 3: Because you only have to drive about three hours west 263 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 3: northwest southwest, and you'll see that Sandford basically owns the 264 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 3: Dakotas and I'm guessing parts of Iowa. 265 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 4: That was a big loss for this university. 266 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 3: But it led me to google richest Minnesota alumni because 267 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 3: I was just curious because you mentioned Mark Cuban. They've 268 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 3: got a couple of those guys, right. A lot of 269 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 3: schools have these dudes, these men and or women. Shoot, 270 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 3: look at Saint Thomas with Lee and Penny Anderson that 271 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 3: just said, yeah, what do you want for a new building, Yeah, 272 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 3: we'll do it. Yeah, whatever, We've already built a couple, 273 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 3: but we're happy to build another one. You kind of 274 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 3: have to have some of those guys, and we don't 275 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 3: have those guys. Bernsy the richest alums, Well, we got 276 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 3: a lot of Cargills who are like the Dutton family 277 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 3: in Yellowstone. They are super secretive and they don't want 278 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 3: you in their business at all. They're not going to 279 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 3: give any money. There's another guy who his family trust 280 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 3: I think to Carlson School. His family they're big into 281 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 3: like environmental causes. So I don't think they're going to 282 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 3: get you a new quarterback. I guess I just wanted 283 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 3: to get that on the record that I've looked into it, 284 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 3: and I don't think we have our white whale, unless 285 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 3: with Joe Polad getting kicked out of the Twins, you 286 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 3: think that he might want to make something happen and 287 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 3: rewrite his legacy and help PJ. 288 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 4: Flecky. 289 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 3: I'm sure they live close to each other and he dinah, 290 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 3: could we make that work? 291 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 4: Well. 292 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 5: The one I would be hoping to see is we 293 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 5: were just out at Oregon probably about a month ago, 294 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 5: and I was watching the Marcus Mariota Performance Center go up, 295 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 5: and I'm thinking to myself, didn't Antoine Winfield Junior become 296 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 5: one of the highest paid safeties in the NFL? 297 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 3: Here, sure, Rashot Bateman just resigned a nice contract. They've 298 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 3: got a lot of dudes in the NFL. 299 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 5: Now, I'd be hoping that, Yeah, for the Bateman's and 300 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 5: the Winfields. Maybe that's the avenue that they explore. Because 301 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 5: even the University of Minnesota thing, it predates Mark Coyle. 302 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 5: It goes back to materia even pre date's probably my 303 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 5: existence on this earth. 304 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 4: It does. 305 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 5: But it's one of the things that Mark Coyle and 306 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 5: this staff have to continue to figure out they're only 307 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 5: going to spend what they have, and the reality of 308 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 5: the situation is they're sixteenth in terms of revenue, which 309 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 5: means they're bottom five in the Big ten in terms 310 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 5: of spending. And if you're going to compete with the 311 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 5: teams you want to be competing with, especially get to 312 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 5: get to a college football playoff, you've got to figure 313 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 5: out the money problem. 314 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 4: What's going to happen at Michigan? 315 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 5: Are we talking the Real Housewives of Van Arbor Below 316 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 5: Deck Lake Michigan edition? 317 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 4: It is? 318 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 5: And when that bombshell dropped where I mean, to be 319 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 5: quite honest with you, the more it unfolded and I 320 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 5: couldn't get enough of it is I felt bad for 321 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 5: Sharon Moore's family. I want to get that stata right away, 322 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 5: his wife and kids with that whole thing and how 323 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 5: it went down, and then he's placed in a psych 324 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 5: hold for forty eight hours, gets to appear in the 325 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 5: jumpsuit on tell. I mean, it's it's not a good deal. 326 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 5: And I don't know that Sharon Moore is ever going 327 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 5: to be And I know you've always been You've said 328 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 5: this for a long time. You've always been big Searon 329 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 5: Moore guys since he started crying after the Penn State 330 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 5: win what was it twenty twenty three when he was 331 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 5: the intern cast. 332 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 3: It's still one of the most ridiculous scenes I've ever seen, 333 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 3: is him crying on the field of Penn State, like 334 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh was in a hospital in nearby State College, 335 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 3: fighting for his life, when in fact he was just 336 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 3: suspended for cheating. But it's one of the most preposterous 337 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 3: scenes I've ever seen. It still bothers me to this day. 338 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 4: Now. 339 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 3: I don't wish this on everybody, right, this is so far, 340 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 3: so far gone, but anyway. 341 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 5: I mean, the whole thing is just incredibly chaotic. And 342 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 5: the one thing to me that I still can't believe 343 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 5: as we sit here in time that is still true 344 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 5: is that Ward Manual is still the athletic director at Michigan. 345 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 5: Because you cannot convince me that he didn't know that 346 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 5: he didn't know that the entire situation that was going 347 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 5: on with his executive assistant, which had been years in 348 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 5: the making, that if you had been in college football circles, 349 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 5: this entire fall had been being talked about, and for 350 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 5: him to plead ignorance there is just incredibly insane to me. 351 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 5: And now they've got this internal investigation going on. But 352 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 5: the question becomes, is he really going to be the 353 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 5: one to make that higher? Where this is still one 354 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 5: of the best ten to fifteen jobs in college football? 355 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 4: I'd be higher it probably is. 356 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 5: They just won a national championship two years ago and 357 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 5: they went out and again they're not lacking money there 358 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 5: with their five star quarterback and Bryce Underwood who they 359 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 5: inked to a multi year deal from multi millions per year, 360 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 5: say two something million dollars per year, Like, this is 361 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 5: a great job, But are you going to entrust that 362 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 5: Ward Manual is going to be the man to make 363 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 5: that higher? And if he is going to be, is 364 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 5: it going to be someone like Kenny Dillingham from Brett's 365 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 5: Arizona State team? Is it going to be former Golden 366 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 5: Gopher offensive coordinator from two thousand and nine Mounds View, 367 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 5: Minnesota stand up Adam Weber's offensive coordinator. 368 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 3: I believe Jed Fish and one of them, one of 369 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 3: Adam Weber's ocs. 370 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 4: He had a few Well. 371 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 5: I was also talking with your guy Daniel House today 372 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 5: and he brought up a great point and I want 373 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 5: to discuss it is if. 374 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 4: We're going to go outside of the college football. 375 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 5: Circle here, and also still because you know Michigan, the 376 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 5: US University of Michigan loves to talk about Michigan men 377 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 5: and the. 378 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 4: Values that they hold. 379 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 5: What if they go out to Green Bay, Wisconsin and 380 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 5: hire the offensive coordinator Adam Stenovich, a Michigan grad. 381 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 4: Do we like him, Brett? 382 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: I mean, that would suck. 383 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 4: He's a packer, he is, yeah, yeah, I mean he's 384 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 4: a good coach. 385 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: I mean it's Lafleur's offense. 386 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 2: So it's one of those things where you're like, we 387 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: know you're highly spoken of and Rogers loved him, but 388 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 2: it's like, I don't know from a fan perspective what 389 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 2: you do exactly. 390 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: So you know. 391 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 2: But I'm sure he's a good coach because everyone talks 392 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 2: highly of him. I just don't know where Lafleour ends 393 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: and he begins. 394 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 4: Well that's where I thought. 395 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 5: I saw something come out in the last couple of 396 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 5: weeks where he's one of the highest paid coordinators in 397 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 5: the NFL. He's a Michigan grad. He's got great success 398 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 5: here with Jordan Love and everything. So you were able 399 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 5: to keep it within the family of someone like the 400 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 5: University of Michigan. He's in a lum but then you're 401 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 5: able to bring the NFL roots in and then also 402 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 5: try to have him figure out how to then p 403 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 5: this thing together because I wonder how many names on 404 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 5: the list, whatever the list is for Ward Manual, how 405 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 5: many names do you have to whiff on before you 406 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 5: just say your guy. Biff Pogi is the interim here 407 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 5: for twenty twenty six. We figure out the internal investigation, 408 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 5: probably fire our athletic director, and then he can be 409 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 5: the one to make the higher. That's the whole fascinating 410 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 5: part about all this is how many more dominoes have 411 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 5: to fall for this Michigan thing to continue to go. 412 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 3: Well, what's interesting is they've shown over the last seven years. 413 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 3: So I know Harbaugh got higher the year that we 414 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 3: were at the Citrus Bowl. I remember watching the press 415 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 3: conference in Orlando and he didn't come in Gangbusters. They 416 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 3: were good. They were nine and three every year and 417 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 3: they'd go to the Citrus Bowl or the Outback Bowl 418 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 3: and they'd play Alabama. But fans were bitter right because 419 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 3: they weren't beating Ohio State. Well then we know they 420 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,959 Speaker 3: started beating everybody, and we learned some of the reasons 421 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 3: why they were cheating during COVID recruiting people. And then 422 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 3: we know about Connor Stallions and he had his contract slash, 423 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 3: which I thought at the time was I don't know if. 424 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 4: We were doing pairent of spare. 425 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 3: At the time, I'm like, the guy's winning every game, 426 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 3: but one like, can we get serious here? Because Michigan 427 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 3: was not very good in the years before he got there, 428 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 3: whether it was Brady Holk or Rich Rodriguez, they clearly 429 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 3: made the decision at that point that we don't give 430 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 3: a bleep about anything, and even their old president was 431 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 3: backing Harbaugh in the Boys, even though it was obvious 432 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 3: what was going on. And now that's all. It's like 433 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 3: a credit card payment. Now the interest you know, the 434 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 3: the interest free period is done. You know that TV 435 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 3: financed from best Buy. Now the eighteen month promotional period's done, 436 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, the thing is shot up 437 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 3: and you got a bunch of more payments. 438 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 4: That's what's fascinating to me. They just didn't care. 439 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 3: They just wanted football to be good, and they got 440 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 3: their national championship, and so everybody's happy there. 441 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 5: Or even your Ohio State team and when we're talking 442 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 5: about Michigan even Ohio State. What I mean, we've talked 443 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 5: about it on Pairent of Spare, but I think you 444 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 5: should let the listeners know what did the outgoing athletic 445 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 5: director at Ohio State too, in terms of running up. 446 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 4: A thirty million dollar deficit the last year that he 447 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 4: was there. 448 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 5: Can you imagine the west side of town's paper if 449 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 5: that were to ever happen here at the University of Minnesota, 450 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 5: the skating columns that would come out. 451 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, but they wanted to be go 452 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 3: to football and that's what he said, and that's what 453 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 3: it is, and they won a national championship. 454 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 5: So it's a crazy world. It is a crazy world. 455 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 5: But that's where it's going to be. How much further 456 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 5: does this snowball have to roll downhill? Because I think 457 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 5: it's more. I think you either have to go out 458 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 5: of the box with an Adam Stenovich or you have 459 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 5: to go interim with a Biff Pogi Because I just 460 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 5: don't believe that by the time this internal investigation gets 461 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 5: wrapped up that Ward Manual is still going to be 462 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 5: the athletic director. So if you are a sitting head coach, 463 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 5: say Kenny Dillingham, knowing that you might be six months 464 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 5: into the job, thinking, am I even on solid footing 465 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 5: here if this isn't the guy that hired me. So 466 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 5: there's a lot of questions that Michigan has to figure out, 467 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 5: but like you said, it is still one of the 468 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 5: best jobs in college football. 469 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 3: A lot of texts here to the KFE and Bradshawn 470 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 3: Bryant text line six four six eighty six. 471 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 4: I want to get to a couple of them. 472 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 3: We talked earlier about drag Lindsay coming back for the Gophers, 473 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 3: who'll play in the bowl game next week? What do 474 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 3: we we know le Micky Brockington is not going to 475 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 3: play in the bowl game? Do we expect that everybody 476 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 3: else is going to play? We're in the age of 477 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 3: the opt out, and the Gophers, like I obviously, we 478 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 3: know that bowl games don't hold the same prestige that 479 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 3: they used to hold when we were all kids, and 480 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 3: we are in the opt out season. Part of the 481 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 3: reason why the Gophers are playing New Mexico is because 482 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 3: two programs just said, we don't really have a coach, 483 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 3: and we don't really know who's going to be on 484 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 3: our team, So we can't go. Yeah, i kanas Kansas 485 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 3: State and Iowa State, those were supposed to be. In fact, 486 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 3: I think the Bowl guy even said, we thought it 487 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 3: was going to be Iowa State, which would have been 488 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 3: a cool, fun little matchup. 489 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 4: Right. 490 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 3: Well, now Matt Campbell's at Penn State and they don't. 491 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 3: They have their coach, but they they didn't want to. 492 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 3: You know, you force feed it and make the guys play. 493 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 3: But pj's guys have played. You know, I do hold 494 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 3: a soft spot in my heart for programs like Iowa. 495 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 3: Then no matter what ballgame they go to, they say, yeah, 496 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 3: we're good, we're playing like it's football. We're going to play, 497 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 3: and Minnesota has been pretty consistent with that as well. 498 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 3: I would imagine New Mexico they're fired up because they 499 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,959 Speaker 3: get to come play another power for a team. You guy, 500 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 3: Jason eck Lacrosse Wisconsin, stand up. I mean they played 501 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 3: two yeah exactly, they played two Big ten teams this year, 502 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 3: beat one of them, UCLA, and hung with Michigan. Right, So, 503 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 3: what do we know about who's playing next week or 504 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 3: what you think and maybe even any headlines about who 505 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 3: else we know for sure is coming back next season 506 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 3: or we feel good about. 507 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 5: Well, we don't know for sure if Minnesota is leading 508 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 5: receiver lame Micky Brockinson is playing or if he's not. 509 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 4: Fleck wouldn't confirm that today. 510 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 5: I almost think he declared for the NFL draft, And 511 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 5: I'm thinking to myself, with the utmost peace and love 512 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 5: to that young man. I mean, do we really think 513 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 5: Lamecky Brockinson is going to be an NFL draft pick? 514 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 4: Now? 515 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 5: I would tend to say no, but he's got to 516 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 5: do what's best for him. I almost think we might 517 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 5: see more Koy Parrots on offense because I do expect Cooy. 518 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 4: Parrits to play in the bowl game. 519 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 5: Darius Taylor sounds like he's healthy, is as healthy as 520 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 5: he's been all season, which if you have watched any 521 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 5: bowl game that features Darius Taylor the last two years, 522 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 5: you know two things are going to happen. One, he's 523 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 5: going to get thirty touches and they're going to run him, slash, 524 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 5: pass him the ball into the ground and he's going 525 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 5: to do very well with that. And I mean too, 526 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 5: I mean, he has just been prolific in bowl games. 527 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 5: But I think Anthony Smith is going to be the 528 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 5: inflection point where I from what I have been told 529 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 5: behind the scenes, Anthony Smith is going to play in 530 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 5: this game. Who is the Big Ten leader in sacks, 531 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 5: one of the best defensive linemen in the Big Ten, 532 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 5: and hopefully he can cause havoc against this Jason X 533 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 5: team where that's probably one of the underrated Look, I 534 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 5: know your big narrative street guy. 535 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're mister media. You like to make an 536 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 4: area the stories. 537 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 5: Well that's where you don't think Jason Ck, who's the 538 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 5: new Mexico head coach from Lacrosse, Wisconsin near the Dells, 539 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 5: played at UW Madison near the Dells. You don't think 540 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 5: he wants to beat the Golden Gophers. I mean, you 541 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 5: don't think he knows that if there's another pair shape 542 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 5: season for Luke Fickle, that he's probably number one or 543 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 5: two on the list for what is it, mister McIntosh 544 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 5: out there for McIntosh, McIntosh, Yeah, out there at Wisconsin. 545 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 5: You don't think he wants to beat the gold like 546 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 5: you don't think he's going to have that team prepared. 547 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 5: So again, Minnesota takes Bowl game seriously under Fleck. 548 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're six and zero. 549 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I understand it's not the highest caliber of bowl 550 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 5: games in them, but you only get to play who's 551 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 5: on your schedule. They didn't pick New Mexico like you said. 552 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 5: I think they thought they were going to be playing Cincinnati, 553 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 5: Iowa State, whoever it may be. And then they get 554 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 5: a nine win New Mexico team, who, like you said, 555 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 5: beat UCLA. So I think Minnesota is going to be prepared, 556 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 5: but I'm also excited to see what Drake Lindsay and 557 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 5: Darius Taylor can do. 558 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 3: The college football playoff. There is a lot of anger 559 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 3: about who was in and who was not in. And 560 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 3: I don't want to talk about Notre Dame and I 561 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 3: don't want to talk about. 562 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 4: Them taking their ball and going home. 563 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to talk about any of that, Okay, 564 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 3: But I've seen a lot from like big voices in 565 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 3: the sport, like Joel Klatt and others that have a 566 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 3: lot of bitterness that James Madison, for instance, is going 567 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 3: to play Oregon this week and that TWU Lane is 568 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 3: also in the playoff and they will play Ole Miss 569 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 3: this week. And I understand their point, but I think 570 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 3: they're missing the overall point that you know, do we 571 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 3: think that James Madison is going to go into Oregon 572 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 3: and shock the world and you know, and beat the Ducks. 573 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 3: I don't do I think that Tulane's going to be 574 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 3: Ole Miss maybe but probably not. But do I think 575 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 3: that those schools absolutely deserve an opportunity to have something 576 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 3: to play for and something to strive for. 577 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 4: I do. 578 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 3: And it's bothering me when people say are saying, because 579 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 3: you've got so you got ten teams that probably have 580 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 3: a chance to win the national title. There's probably six 581 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 3: or seven, but ten theoretically, right when with all the 582 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 3: power forwards, I don't like that it that those schools 583 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 3: are getting kind of shafted in the discussion of why 584 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 3: are we even saving a spot for these guys, Like 585 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 3: because you're asking everybody to play, you're asking everybody to 586 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 3: feel the team, you're asking everybody to fund it at 587 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 3: ridiculous levels that we just talked about. You got to 588 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 3: give them something to play for, like something, and you 589 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 3: look at I was looking at some tweets from Tulane 590 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 3: where their school store their Goldie's locker room. They can't 591 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 3: keep up with the demand for the playoff shirts, right, 592 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 3: Like schools should have an opportunity to have that moment. 593 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 4: It doesn't always have to be. 594 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 3: And I'm saying this is a Big Ten guy that 595 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 3: would love for some time the Gophers to be the 596 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 3: fourth or fifth Big Ten team in a playoff. It 597 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 3: it'd be fun to do that, right both, It'd be 598 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 3: fun to cover that. Brett's thinking the same thing for 599 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 3: his Wisconsin Badgers. IO owed the same thing. I want 600 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 3: as many teams in the playoff as possible, because because 601 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 3: everybody a chance outside of the blue bloods. But I 602 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 3: have not loved the narrative, to use your word about 603 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 3: nobody wants to see those teams. I do, and I 604 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 3: want them to have their moment. And I think it's 605 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 3: okay that they have their moment. Am I too romantic 606 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 3: about college football? 607 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 5: No? I think the thing about college football is everybody 608 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 5: had been saying for a long time we want more parody. 609 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 5: We're tired of the blue blue bloods being able to 610 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 5: buy their way to national championships. Now do I expect Tulane? 611 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 5: Do I expect? Do I expect James Madison to win 612 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 5: their football games this upcoming weekend? 613 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 4: I do not. 614 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 5: But the games aren't played on paper. If they were, 615 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 5: you know who just signed the number one recruiting clabs 616 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,239 Speaker 5: in college football Southern California. Yeh, I mean we've been 617 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 5: hearing they've been back since your guy, well since you're 618 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 5: a Nebraska team. 619 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 4: Have we seen yet? 620 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 5: Are they still ranked in the top twenty five for 621 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 5: next year's preseason top twenty five pole? 622 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 3: Nebraska football is in Indiana basketball already for next season? 623 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 5: Yes, I love that for them, But I mean everybody 624 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 5: wants parody until they get it or that's even where 625 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 5: the Notre Dame thing plays a part in this where 626 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 5: part of vice everybody's upset, And we talked about. 627 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 4: It this week on the pod. 628 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 5: Was okay, well, why did they finally at the very end, 629 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 5: after they had Notre Dame higher than Miami for the 630 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 5: last month, just flip them? 631 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 4: And that's what you get when you have human beings. 632 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 5: Making these decisions where there's not and you hear their 633 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 5: rationale after there's not a ton of rationale in that. 634 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 4: Like, what we need is to your point is to 635 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 4: give just give teams a chance. 636 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 5: I mean I saw even today the economic I mean 637 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 5: you talk about you know, the Goldies locker room of Tulane. 638 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, like they. 639 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 5: We've talked about for a long time too, that college 640 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 5: athletics is the front door to a university and where 641 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 5: I even think about remember the run the run that 642 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 5: what was at Florida Gulf. 643 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 4: Coast, Yeah, dunk City, lop City. And then you look at. 644 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 5: The amount of again the amount of admissions, correct donations. 645 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 4: Yes, you wanted many teams. 646 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 5: To get in and have a shot, and I understand 647 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 5: that last year a lot of the lower seeded teams 648 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 5: didn't end up winning their football games, but I remember 649 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 5: watching those games thinking, at least you give them a 650 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 5: shot to play, because again, this is their super Bowl 651 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 5: to prove that for if you're at James Madison that 652 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 5: you can compete with an organ or I understand an 653 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 5: old miss Untu Lane already played this year and I 654 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 5: know how it went. But I know your guy Lane 655 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 5: is no longer there, and that's a program that has 656 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 5: been under transition, to say the least, and I don't 657 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 5: know what version we're going to get of Ole Miss 658 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 5: at that point. So this is why you play the games. 659 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 5: And I understand recruiting rankings better than anybody. I've done 660 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 5: this industry for fifteen years. Every single day of my life, 661 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 5: I'm talking to somebody about portal retention, high school rankings, 662 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 5: whatever it may be. But this is why you play 663 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 5: the games, and everybody wants parody until they get it. 664 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 3: You would likely be complaining if too Lane or jam 665 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 3: you bumped the Gophers, that's a Texas six from six 666 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 3: to one two. 667 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 4: No, I wouldn't and we can write that down. 668 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 3: I wouldn't like, especially if they were nine and three 669 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 3: or ten and two or whatever like you have. Like, 670 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 3: it's okay, we're gonna survive the first week because even 671 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 3: last year, remember there was all that bitterness about how 672 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 3: non competitive the first weekend's games were and there were 673 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 3: blowouts everywhere. Yeah, wait till Wildcard weekend January eleventh, when 674 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 3: the NFL is, you know, hosting like it happens. It's okay, 675 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 3: we'll survive. Some of the games are still gonna be epic. 676 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 3: It's gonna be okay. Yeah, okay. 677 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 4: And by the way, if James Madison wasn't in. 678 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 3: The postseason, we wouldn't have been witness to one of 679 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 3: the most prolific Twitter admin runs that we've ever seen 680 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 3: in the world of sport. Just look at James Madison 681 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 3: Athletics or whatever I mean, the trolleying. They're doing of 682 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 3: Oregon and Notre Dame is brilliant, and they know they 683 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 3: know what's going to happen at I think noon or 684 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 3: eleven o'clock. No, I should say I think it's Saturday 685 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 3: night because Oregon's way out west. I think they know 686 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 3: what's going to happen. I think they're all well aware 687 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 3: of it. But it's okay, it's fun, it's cool. Everything 688 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 3: will be fine, exactly. They'll crown a national champion and 689 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 3: everything will be fine. 690 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 691 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 5: Do I think that either one of those teams have 692 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 5: a shot? No, again, I even think there's probably only 693 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 5: four or five teams that really have a shot. And 694 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 5: I'm going to be very curious for that New Year's 695 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 5: Day and things of that nature. 696 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 4: But at least put them in. 697 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 5: I'm just glad that they in my opinion, I'm just 698 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 5: glad that they got it right with something like that 699 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 5: and not just easily find a way to put Notre 700 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 5: Dame in, which, by the way, Notre Dame just go 701 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 5: find a bleeping conference at that point and stop playing 702 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 5: the ACC who is clearly at best now in the 703 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 5: fourth best conference in college football. 704 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 3: I will see you in Phoenix, Burnsey. I look forward 705 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 3: to it as always. 706 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 5: I appreciate the invitation to your VRBO that features it 707 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 5: looks like a pickleball court. I mean, this is the 708 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 5: best that the West side of the Cities can buy, 709 00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 5: can look. 710 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 4: I'm an Oakdale guy, your. 711 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 5: Mystery dying and mister Minnetonka like that vrbo slash airbnb 712 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 5: looks terrific and I cannot wait to break bread over 713 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 5: there with you. 714 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 3: And I look forward to seeing you on Friday, April third, 715 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 3: when the Twins open their season against the Tampa Bay Rays. 716 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 3: You will be sitting on the Tampa Bay dugout with 717 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 3: your Tom polead T shirt jersey. 718 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 5: It's a Jack Jones, okay, Jock Jones, Denny Hawking. 719 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 4: I got a lou Ford jersey. 720 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 3: I think lou Ford, as of like last year, was 721 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 3: still playing. He hadn't hung up the cleats yet. He 722 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 3: was playing somewhere in like Korea. 723 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 4: Him Chris John Guzmansch. 724 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 3: I keep going, well, you're guy, no wonder you're such 725 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 3: a fan. 726 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 4: That was your youth, right it was. I'm looking at you. 727 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 5: You're wearing a Jason Tyner jersey right now, Like my goodness, 728 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 5: that's sad and scary. 729 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 3: How deep you can go. I hope you remember where 730 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 3: he parked, because you probably can't, but you can remember 731 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 3: all those names. 732 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 4: Thank you. 733 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 3: Burns here that is Ryan Burns from Gopher Illustrated dot com. 734 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 3: You can read him right there at gi You can 735 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 3: hear him on Pair and a Spare. We dropped an 736 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 3: episode a couple of days ago. Find it wherever you 737 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 3: get your favorite podcast, as well as the parent of 738 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 3: Spare YouTube channel, and go for grid Iron Radio as well. 739 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 3: It's all good with Burnsy, one of my favorite dudes, 740 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 3: and I will see him next week in Phoenix. 741 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 4: Burnsy's a legend. 742 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 3: We all know that Brett Blakemore, in my mind, became 743 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 3: a legend this past weekend. How did Brett Blakemore become 744 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 3: a legend? We will explain it and tell the story 745 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 3: when we come back before Pat Kessler joins in the 746 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 3: five o'clock out. 747 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: Apple Valley. You're on deck for the feast this week. 748 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 2: Join Nordo pa alec Lewis This Friday Buffalo Wow Wings 749 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 2: Apple Valley. See ray for Vikings, Giants plus great eats 750 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 2: in your shot at prizes all morning long. Doors open 751 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 2: at eight am. Go details Kfan dot Conkey or calendar. 752 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 3: Top five and five coming up about ten minutes from now. 753 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 3: Pat Kessler of around five fifteen guardsian for Barrero today 754 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 3: cake show edition of Bumper to Bumper. Dan will be 755 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 3: back tomorrow. If you're looking for Glenn Mason, he joined yesterday. 756 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 3: If you were looking for Lunani yesterday, he will join tomorrow. 757 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 3: We expect Sean Salisbury as well. So Dan, we'll be 758 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 3: back tomorrow and Friday. It's December. Around the fan, things 759 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 3: get a little weird, things get a little messy. We 760 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 3: have vacation time too. You wouldn't believe it, you wouldn't 761 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 3: know about it, but we do. We actually we get 762 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 3: some and a lot of us try to take it 763 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 3: so and there's times where we just can't take it. 764 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 3: Because there's a thing called a football season. There's a 765 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 3: thing called the State Fair. We kind of have to work. 766 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 3: When Timberwolves make big playoff runs, We've got to be 767 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 3: available for those days. So that's why it's a little 768 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 3: wonky in December. 769 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 4: But it's all good. 770 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 3: Speaking of wonky in December, you had an interesting weekend, 771 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 3: Brett Blakemore, You first of all had to ride the 772 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 3: emotional roller coaster of your favorite hockey team, making the 773 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 3: biggest trade in its franchise history and coming to grips 774 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 3: with it. And I know you're a big Ze Bulliam guy. Yeah, 775 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 3: And I know you were a big Marco Rossi guy, 776 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 3: was a Rossie defender for years, you were, and now 777 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 3: you're vindicated already didn't he already have a goal in 778 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 3: his first game with the Canucks. 779 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: As Dan would say, didn't need him. 780 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 4: Didn't need him. 781 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 3: We did get that like fifty times, right. But after 782 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 3: Beyond the Pond on Saturday, you drove up to Duluth, 783 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 3: Minnesota because you were taking in the Bulldogs versus the 784 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 3: Arizona State Sun Devils NHC. Right, that's big time hockey matchup. 785 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 3: Bulldogs rank like fifth game, it's Scott Sandalin and what 786 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 3: else do you expect? Even I know that. Yeah, as 787 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 3: a new hockey fan because of Quinn Hughes, why did 788 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:31,320 Speaker 3: you go up to Duluth? 789 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:32,720 Speaker 4: What was the task? 790 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 2: So I just retweeted my own tweet, which is tacky, 791 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 2: but just to I just retweeted. 792 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 3: Your tweet as well, because I think people need to 793 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 3: go to my Twitter and or your Twitter. Actually, let 794 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 3: me set it up. Go ahead, let me set it up. 795 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 3: This way because I was trying figure out how to 796 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 3: get in there. We I discovered what a year or 797 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 3: so ago that the head coach of Arizona State, the 798 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 3: Sun Devils, what's his name. 799 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 1: Greg Powers? 800 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:54,479 Speaker 4: Is his name? 801 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 3: Looks like he's a long lost Blakemore looks like he's 802 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 3: your long lost twin brother. 803 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 804 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 3: And so then I got in the algorithm because I 805 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 3: tweeted about it one time. I somehow got a Greg 806 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 3: Powers press conference video on my feed and the Devils 807 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 3: must have had a big win or something, and I 808 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 3: tweeted out congratulations to Brett Blakemore on, you know, continuing 809 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 3: to grow the game in the desert. And now all 810 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 3: I get is Arizona State hockey stuff. And because people 811 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 3: can go to your Twitter handle and think about it 812 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 3: or see it, he does look exactly like you. 813 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 4: I think. Now he has glasses, right. 814 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: He's got glasses. I wear glasses from time to time, 815 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 1: but I don't need them. I think he needs them. 816 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 3: So in a throwback thing, I just said this a 817 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 3: little while ago on I think on pair and to spare, 818 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 3: we used to do a lot of cool stuff back 819 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 3: in our younger days. We used to do fun bits 820 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 3: and wacky things all the time before we I don't 821 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 3: know matured into an actual radio station. I don't know 822 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 3: what it was, but we used to do. We just 823 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 3: get ideas and we would just go do them. We 824 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 3: probably need to get back to that in the new 825 00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 3: year twenty twenty six. But our dream was for you 826 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 3: to get a side by side picture with Greg Powers. 827 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 3: My dream was actually to have you sitting behind the 828 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 3: bench and just have the TV shot of when they 829 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 3: showed the coach, You're just right behind him like you're 830 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 3: his brother in this in this team seats. And I 831 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 3: give you a ton of credit because you did what 832 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 3: we all used to do. You went above and beyond 833 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 3: and drove up to Duluth in sub zero temperatures on Saturday, 834 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 3: made all the accommodations and requests and asks, and I 835 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 3: think from what you told told enough lies to get 836 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 3: yourself where you needed to go. So flies go to 837 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 3: the If you go to either one of our Twitter handles, 838 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 3: you can see from my money, it's the end of 839 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 3: the year. So people always do like the image of 840 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 3: twenty twenty six. This to me is the image of 841 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 3: twenty twenty six for KFE And right here is you 842 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 3: with Brett Powers, Greg Powers. 843 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 4: Could be Brett Powers. 844 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, in Duluth, Minnesota on a sub zero, frozen December afternoon. 845 00:36:58,640 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 4: So how did it happen? 846 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 2: So we've been planning it for a while, and so 847 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 2: he got in touch. We looked at their schedule. The 848 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 2: only time Saint Cloud, I think, goes to Arizona State, 849 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 2: so the closest was Duluth's. 850 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: Like, all right, we got to make that work. 851 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,800 Speaker 2: So you get in touch with with Sisky, Bruce Sisky, 852 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 2: the play by play guy who got me in touch 853 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 2: with someone else whose name escapes me at the moment, 854 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 2: but thank you very much, who got me. 855 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 1: A credential, which was half the battle. 856 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:23,879 Speaker 4: Yeah. 857 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 3: So then I, by the way, it should not be 858 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,240 Speaker 3: that difficult, Like, with all respect to Amsoil Arena, should 859 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 3: be pretty easy to get in there when you're Brett blakemore. 860 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: Well, thank you, and you got in there. 861 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 4: I did there. 862 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 2: They did have They didn't put me in the system, 863 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 2: so they had to write me a credential. That happens 864 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 2: the spot, but hey, I'll take it that happens. No 865 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 2: one checked, by the way, so no Bruce saw me 866 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 2: and I'm just but uh so I pitched the idea 867 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,399 Speaker 2: to him. He loved it. So then we get there 868 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 2: and I'm in the press box and and even Bruce 869 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 2: Sisky did he goes, you do look like him? 870 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: It's kind of weird. 871 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 4: It really is able. 872 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 2: So I asked the one guy, like, what do we 873 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 2: think we can do? Do you think we can get me 874 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 2: down there like before or after? So they send me 875 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 2: with intern gal and she's like, do you know where 876 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 2: the coaches are? And she's like I think so, like 877 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 2: send them down there. And the kind of half lie 878 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 2: told was there, like is he no, this meeting's coming? 879 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 4: Oh boy? 880 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, yeah, of course. 881 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 3: Now I'm not just going to drive two and a 882 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 3: half hours from my home to take a random picture 883 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,399 Speaker 3: with a guy he totally knows. 884 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 885 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 2: But in my defense, he has tweeted back at me 886 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 2: several times. 887 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 1: We've gone back and forth. This is kind of a 888 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:35,359 Speaker 1: bit between you two. 889 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 2: Yes so, and he said like hashtag good looking and 890 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 2: yeah and handsome fellow. Last year, when I was visiting 891 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 2: my sister in Phoenix, I drove to the arena just 892 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 2: to get a picture out in front of it. So 893 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 2: much commitment exact. So now I had to one up 894 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 2: myself this year. So I go down there and we 895 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 2: can't find him. An intern girl Gal's getting a little 896 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 2: like antsy. Oh yeah. So we see like a couple 897 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 2: of people in Sun Devils stuff and she's ready to 898 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 2: just go back. Well that's it, right, So I just 899 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 2: go up out of my own way and just that 900 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,919 Speaker 2: Hey does Greg around and they're like Greg powers. 901 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, yeah. 902 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 2: He goes, what do you need? He's like, oh, well, 903 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,359 Speaker 2: I was hoping to get a quick picture with him. 904 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,399 Speaker 2: They they go and get him and he comes out 905 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:19,320 Speaker 2: very confused. 906 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 4: Oh I'm sure. 907 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 908 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 2: So so I have to explain to him like, hey, 909 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 2: I'm Bret Blakemore. 910 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,240 Speaker 1: We've gone back and forth on Twitter. 911 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 2: He still doesn't really know, and I go, yeah, like 912 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 2: justin guard and Pat Nicoletty tweets. 913 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,439 Speaker 4: You and it doesn't care, doesn't bother. 914 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 2: Well, hang on, this could have been acting or the 915 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 2: light could have flipped. 916 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: I think if it was, it was good acting. 917 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 2: But he goes, oh yeah, like I you're that guy, 918 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 2: Like I absolutely know what you're You're that guy? Yeah, 919 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 2: And he knew like out and then he started saying that, 920 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 2: oh well you are you're handsome. You know what can 921 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 2: I say? So he's like, yeah, we got to get 922 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 2: a picture. And he asked like a couple like two 923 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 2: small talks like oh you from here, and I do 924 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 2: the whole no on, I'm from the by working the. 925 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 1: Cities, blah blah blah. 926 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 2: So then I go, well, the idea is I'm hopefully 927 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 2: going to be right behind you at the bench. 928 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: I explained it to him. 929 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 2: So that way, and by the way, shout if anyone 930 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 2: is an NCCHC subscriber. Yeah, in the first or third period, 931 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 2: if it ever cuts to the coach, someone screen grabbed that. 932 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: Please, I have yet to see that. 933 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,880 Speaker 3: Because we couldn't. I mean, I wanted you to be 934 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 3: committed to the bit. I wasn't going to be an 935 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 3: NCCHC TV subscriber that night. I did think about it 936 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 3: to try to find it. But and I wonder if 937 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 3: you can go back in archive games. I'm sure you 938 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 3: really can, and I'm sure somebody in Duluth probably has 939 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 3: the video. Yeah, it's out there somewhere. We need this 940 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,799 Speaker 3: because you were right behind him. So anyway, go to 941 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 3: the picture. 942 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 1: So we get so he's like, hey, let's take a picture. 943 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 3: We get that, and you did the forks up too, right, yes, 944 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 3: because that's the bit for Arizona State. 945 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 2: He loved that I was wearing Arizona State stuff. I'm like, 946 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,359 Speaker 2: you think I'm not committed to the p'st like, oh, 947 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 2: I love it. You got the stuff on. So even 948 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 2: intering gal rocking backs like you guys do really look away, 949 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:00,799 Speaker 2: Like yeah, I know. 950 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,359 Speaker 1: So I get back up the press box, thank you everyone. 951 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 2: And and I go, yeah, we actually think right behind 952 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 2: the bench is a good spot, like you should be 953 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 2: able to just sit down there. 954 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, no problem. 955 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 3: Because I looked for tickets in that spot, yes, because 956 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,840 Speaker 3: I was committed to this as well, but there weren't 957 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 3: any available, even on like seat geek or stub hub. 958 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 3: So I don't know if season ticket holders have them 959 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 3: and don't go all the time or what, but they 960 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:23,280 Speaker 3: were not available right. 961 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 4: Behind the visitors bench. So I'm glad that worked out. 962 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think it was just family. 963 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 2: Like they said they were all sold, but then Friday night, 964 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 2: no one was sitting there, so like, you should be 965 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:32,959 Speaker 2: fine to just sit down there and you'll be fine. 966 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 4: Brilliant. 967 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 2: So I was literally the second period he was on 968 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,919 Speaker 2: the other side of the bench, but literally the first 969 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 2: and third period. I was right behind him and like 970 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 2: perfectly framed. If the TV ever cut to him, it 971 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,399 Speaker 2: would be a great screenshot. And he even he saw 972 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 2: me and acknowledged me, like the first time in the 973 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:51,400 Speaker 2: first period. 974 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: He was coming to the bench. 975 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 2: I had several players because there was a lot of 976 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 2: family members there. 977 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: Half the teams from Minnesota. It's college hockey. 978 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I had people literally asked me like, are you 979 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 2: his brother? Like players families were convinced that I was 980 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 2: related to them. So yeah, it's uh. And that was 981 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 2: pretty much it. And the Devil's the Sun Devils forks up. 982 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 2: They beat d Luth upset the number five team and Duluth, 983 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 2: So forks up there Saturday night. 984 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: I'm undefeated behind the bench. 985 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 3: And you said some of the assistant coaches loved it, 986 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 3: right they in the in the tunnel. 987 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, they they were looking back and forth and they 988 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 2: had really big grins on like what is going on here? 989 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 1: They got a big kick. 990 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:31,319 Speaker 4: Out of that. Yeah. 991 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 3: So go to either one of our Twitter handles, Breadcaffean 992 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 3: or at Guardsy and see the picture that we're talking about. 993 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,319 Speaker 1: This is what two years in the making, something like 994 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 1: at least a year time. 995 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,359 Speaker 3: Because I think the first like last year around this time, 996 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 3: you went to Arizona to take the picture last spring whenever. 997 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,280 Speaker 1: By the way, flight tomorrow. 998 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 4: Oh good. We're for you if you have the means. 999 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 3: And the other part that I think people should know 1000 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 3: is you came in like three weeks ago and reminded me, Hey, 1001 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,399 Speaker 3: they're coming, the devils are coming to Duluth. You think 1002 00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 3: we can make this happen? What do we need to do? 1003 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,320 Speaker 3: We were kind of crafting it whatever. And my favorite 1004 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 3: part was last week when you said I've been growing 1005 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 3: my beard just to match him for the picture. He's 1006 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 3: got a little more gray than me. Yeah, yeah, he's older, 1007 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 3: but yes, I knew he was growing it out. And 1008 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 3: I usually keep it kind of tighter to the face. Yeah, 1009 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 3: I felt like I had to let it go. So 1010 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,919 Speaker 3: did you shave it like Sunday? Did you trim it again? 1011 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1012 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:22,399 Speaker 4: I did. It was too much. 1013 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 3: It's like when Leonardo DiCaprio gains weight to play a role. Yeah, 1014 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 3: that's basically what you did. I give you great kudos. 1015 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,359 Speaker 3: This was this was well crafted. Was it worth it 1016 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 3: the five. 1017 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 2: Hours of driving total to do that? I also I 1018 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 2: made a huge mistake on the website it said it 1019 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 2: was a four o'clock game, so I bolt it out 1020 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 2: of beyond the Pond, right, Well, it turns out that 1021 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 2: was Mountain time, so it was actually five o'clock. 1022 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,880 Speaker 4: You were checking the wrong website. That's okay. He got 1023 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 4: there early, nothing wrong with that. 1024 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and so I got there within plenty of 1025 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 2: time to get my credential written up for me. So yeah, 1026 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 2: I would say for like the five retweets, and he 1027 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 2: Greg Powers himself retweeted, they're five retweets. 1028 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, wait a side, I think it was worth it. No, 1029 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 3: I just love how they thought you were a family member. 1030 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 3: Like people literally asked you and players maybe you loosened 1031 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 3: up the team because they started looking at you and 1032 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 3: they said maybe that loosened them up, and that's why 1033 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 3: they played so well, I. 1034 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,879 Speaker 2: Will say this, And there were players like getting off 1035 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 2: the bench, like mostly during TV timeouts, not like the 1036 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,959 Speaker 2: real game, but like TV timeouts, come to the bench 1037 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 2: and would make eye contact with me a lot, and 1038 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 2: we're kind of looking like. 1039 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,359 Speaker 3: The direction they were trying to is their line going out? 1040 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 3: Are we tweaking anything? What do we need to change? 1041 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,839 Speaker 1: Coach stop a little bit here it's so good. 1042 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 3: Well, now we got to keep following Arizona State Hockey 1043 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 3: like he's like our guy. 1044 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,240 Speaker 1: I love this guy. Nice dude, I think. 1045 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 3: You I mean this to me is better than the 1046 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 3: bumper bumper seal of approve. I don't think you can 1047 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 3: get any higher praise here, Bratchawan Brian Camfean text line 1048 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 3: Larry mondelo guy. Well done by Blake Moore. I've done 1049 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 3: a lot for a joke in the past, but this 1050 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 3: is next level. To quote Bart Simpson, that's what you 1051 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,800 Speaker 3: call to a bit. I also give you great credit 1052 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 3: to me, it's the image of twenty twenty six, the 1053 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 3: cafe and sports image of twenty twenty five. And I 1054 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 3: give you great credit because you were committed to it 1055 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 3: and we used to do fun stuff like this all 1056 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:13,399 Speaker 3: the time. 1057 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 4: So made me feel young again. 1058 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:16,839 Speaker 3: It was fun, made me feel young again, and I'm 1059 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 3: glad he was a good sport about it. And I 1060 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,360 Speaker 3: just love that he told him he was expecting you. 1061 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 3: That's just my favorite part. Pat Custler about fifteen minutes 1062 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:26,279 Speaker 3: from now, anything for top five 1063 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 1: And five Quinnesota is in full fame.