WEBVTT - Bill Cunningham with Sheriff Richard K. Jones -- 10/28/25

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<v Speaker 1>Also here in the tri State, and of course the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals teed up on Sunday with the Chicago Bears.

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<v Speaker 2>God knows what's going to happen with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus it was discovered yesterday by some enterprising reporters with

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<v Speaker 1>The Inquirer that Frost Brown is going to be paid

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<v Speaker 1>between forty and one hundred thousand dollars a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>money to investigate the chief of police for wrongdoing, to

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<v Speaker 1>give the mayor a reason for what he did. The

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<v Speaker 1>mayor indirectly but through share along the city manager fire

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<v Speaker 1>Chief of Police Thiji, and now the mayor and the

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<v Speaker 1>city manager wants to our big time law firm to

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<v Speaker 1>discover why the mayor did what he did. Joining me

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<v Speaker 1>now with this and so many of the other issues

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<v Speaker 1>since the Sheriff of Butler County, Richard K. Jones and

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<v Speaker 1>Sheriff welcome again to the Bill Cunningham showing first of

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<v Speaker 1>all as an outside observer looking at the mess on

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<v Speaker 1>city Council as an outside observer of what's happening. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you imagine the police chief who's been a cop for

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<v Speaker 1>like thirty five years, her family have been ops for

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<v Speaker 1>like one hundred years, standing next to the mayor for

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<v Speaker 1>news conference after news conference after news conference in which

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's on the same page, share long the city manager

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<v Speaker 1>who's completely incompetent, and then the mayor who's way over

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<v Speaker 1>his skis, and the chief is standing there, and the

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<v Speaker 1>three of them agree that they're doing what's right. They're

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<v Speaker 1>holding down crime. There's all kind of transparency, and at

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<v Speaker 1>no point did the mayor indicate the chief of police

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<v Speaker 1>was somehow on her own. All of a sudden, the

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<v Speaker 1>election gets close, the mayor needs a scapegoat, and the

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<v Speaker 1>escapegoat is a woman named Teresa Thiji. So, as a

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<v Speaker 1>law enforcement official with some forty years, you've been in

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<v Speaker 1>law enforcement about as long as I've been in radio,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you perceive the behavior of the elected officials

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<v Speaker 1>in Cincinnati when they want to dump everything onto the

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<v Speaker 1>shoulders of Fiji? When she did what the mayor wanted

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<v Speaker 1>her to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, Look, she's a great person, great family, great background,

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<v Speaker 3>good people, and the people that she worked four or

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<v Speaker 3>the worst, the worst of the worst. Your mayor is

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<v Speaker 3>a goof and and he's running in a race, and

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<v Speaker 3>what they do is they sacrifice people. He has no

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<v Speaker 3>idea what's going on.

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<v Speaker 4>She's not.

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<v Speaker 3>She wasn't allowed to fix anything. And then you got

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<v Speaker 3>the sheriff that's sitting on the empty cells because the

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<v Speaker 3>courts won't put him in jail, and it's the prosecutor.

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<v Speaker 3>You got a perfect storm, and they're all blaming it

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<v Speaker 3>on the police chief. I know her, I know her well.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I said, she was never allowed to do her

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<v Speaker 3>job because of these goofs, these incompetence. But that's who

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<v Speaker 3>they elect down there. How would you like to be

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<v Speaker 3>a business downtown? Restaurant, Rubies, all these restaurants and look

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<v Speaker 3>and those people donate to these people's campaign thousands of dollars,

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<v Speaker 3>and who the hell would want to go to Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not one of them, And I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Just telling you it's a terrible situation. The people that

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<v Speaker 3>have businesses downtown, Who the hell would want to go

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<v Speaker 3>to Fountain Square where they shoot people. It's terrible. Those

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<v Speaker 3>businesses have to be feeling it, and they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>continue to feel it because what they'll do is they'll

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<v Speaker 3>do a national search. They'll find some they'll find some

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<v Speaker 3>goof somewhere that's been fired like forty two times, and

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<v Speaker 3>they'll bring them to Cincinnati, like.

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<v Speaker 4>These big cities, and it'll be.

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<v Speaker 3>The same thing, turnover after turnover after turnover. They don't Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>the courts won't put them. They have a no cash bond.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody goes free. The jails sitting on empty beds, and

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<v Speaker 3>you've got a sanctuary city. You got everything that can

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<v Speaker 3>go wrong. They have debt out the ass, they owe money.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't. Butler County we have no debt none. We're

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<v Speaker 4>building a brand new.

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<v Speaker 3>Disc at center and more for the corner combined together

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<v Speaker 3>thirty five million dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, and they paid cash for it. There's no debt.

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<v Speaker 3>They're sitting all probably one hundred and seventy one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and seventy million to the good.

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<v Speaker 4>All good.

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<v Speaker 3>We have one commissioner that's kind of a goof, that's Carpenter.

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<v Speaker 3>But other than that, here in Butler County, we're doing good.

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<v Speaker 2>Sheriff.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine just on the city pension Cincinnati one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred years ago had his own pension system before PRS

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<v Speaker 1>was ever created, and the shortfall on the city pension

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<v Speaker 1>system is well over a billion dollars. Now to a

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<v Speaker 1>little city like Cincinnati, a billion dollars, maybe a trillion dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>On top of that, they spent years telling the police chief,

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<v Speaker 1>do not enforce the law. In other words, we have

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<v Speaker 1>situations of speeding in dui and reckless operation. We have

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<v Speaker 1>situation open air drug use, homelessness, drug encampments, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>And the chief if the police is told by Scotti

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson on city council and by Cheryl Long, the city manager,

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<v Speaker 1>who's completely over her head, do not enforce the law

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<v Speaker 1>because too many people arrested look like us. So not

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<v Speaker 1>going to arrest people because of the color of their skin.

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<v Speaker 1>That's called racism. So here you got a proud member

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<v Speaker 1>of the Neville family. The Nevills have been police officers

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<v Speaker 1>for like seventy five years. She comes in and wants

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<v Speaker 1>to enforce the law. She said, well, you can't walk

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<v Speaker 1>around Washington Park smoking pot, and you can't be intervening

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<v Speaker 1>drug using. You've got to get the homelesses off the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't want to reclassify a shooting in which

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<v Speaker 1>bullets go through a car as property damage as a misdemeanor.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to classify that as a felony. Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>mayor and the city manager won't let her, and so

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<v Speaker 1>they reclassify offenses, they ignore criminal violations. And now not

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<v Speaker 1>about what about a week ago when the city manager

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<v Speaker 1>supposedly fired I think it's called administrative lee, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be fired.

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<v Speaker 2>Teresa Thiji, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Mayor, said it's time we start arresting people for misdemeanors.

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<v Speaker 1>I would think it is a basic tenement of law enforcement. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>when you see somebody in your presence committing a drug offense,

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<v Speaker 1>do you tell your man and women of Butler County

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<v Speaker 1>if you see somebody walking around the streets you having

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<v Speaker 1>a needle in their arm or living in a homeless

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<v Speaker 1>encampment in downtown Hamilton? Do you see somebody smoking pot

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<v Speaker 1>walking around? What do you tell your many women to

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<v Speaker 1>do in uniform?

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, we do what we're supposed to. We're supposed to

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<v Speaker 4>keep everybody safe.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not allowed to do that. It's against the law. Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>you go to jail and you only have to do that. Listen,

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<v Speaker 3>you only have to do that a little bit, Bill,

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<v Speaker 3>they'll go somewhere else. We try to tell them, go

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<v Speaker 3>to Cincinnati. They got everything there, They got the best

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<v Speaker 3>welfare system in the world. They'll give you free money,

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<v Speaker 3>they won't put you in jail. You can lay on

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<v Speaker 3>the streets do whatever you want. You can do those

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<v Speaker 3>race car things where you close the highway down, ro

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<v Speaker 3>test and block the bridges off. But don't go to

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<v Speaker 3>Kentucky because they'll whip your ass put you in jail. Yes, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>you made us a mistake crossing that bridge. But listen,

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<v Speaker 3>they had a good police chief. They have the best

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<v Speaker 3>police department in the United States, one of the best.

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<v Speaker 4>I know them. They're not allowed to do their job.

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<v Speaker 4>Can't blame them. They're so screwed up.

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<v Speaker 3>And like I said, empty beds in jail because the

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<v Speaker 3>judges won't put them in jail. Everybody gets bonded out

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<v Speaker 3>before they get the paperwork done. It's sanctuary city. But again,

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<v Speaker 3>the businesses downtown are suffering.

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<v Speaker 4>People.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, the word is don't go there. You get turned

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<v Speaker 3>around and get on the wrong street. Hey, you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to get shot, You're going to get beat down, and

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<v Speaker 3>if you try to defend yourself, you will be indicted

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<v Speaker 3>and charged with a crime for being a victim. Terrible

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<v Speaker 3>national news and embarrassment. The mayor should resign immediately. One

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<v Speaker 3>of the worst mayors I've ever seen. He should quit

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<v Speaker 3>like yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me give a little story about Judge Josh Berkowitz

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<v Speaker 1>had them on twice since Labor Day. Every day as

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<v Speaker 1>the administrative judge presiding Judge Heimlic County Municipal Court, he

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<v Speaker 1>gets a availability of beds available in the jail because

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<v Speaker 1>the judges, you might recall when my wife was on

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<v Speaker 1>the bench about ten fifteen years ago, there was a

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<v Speaker 1>movement of foot by Sean Donovan by side lease.

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<v Speaker 2>We had to build another jail.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>The cost was going to be one hundred million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>and there'd be a five year sales tax increase of

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<v Speaker 1>a half a percent that would sunset after five years

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<v Speaker 1>to raise one hundred million in order to build a

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<v Speaker 1>brand new jail in addition the one we have now.

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<v Speaker 1>Because they were double betting and judges were told in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning penny would get something at eight a m.

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<v Speaker 1>In the morning, we can't accept any prisoners today, and

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<v Speaker 1>so you have to act tough on the bench. You

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<v Speaker 1>had to say, well, don't do that again. But you

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't send these gang bangers and criminals to jail because

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<v Speaker 1>the jail said we won't accept them. That's how things

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<v Speaker 1>function to fifteen years ago. And now let's fast forward

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty twenty five. Josh Berkowitz, running for reelection, says

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<v Speaker 1>he gets that update every day. Between two and four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred beds are available every day in amer County jail.

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<v Speaker 1>And this isn't Charmaine mcguffey's fault because she doesn't sendence

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<v Speaker 1>people to jail. The judges in Hamleton County, half of

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<v Speaker 1>them are liberal Democrats who believe in something called restorative justice.

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<v Speaker 1>I see campaign literature of Democrats restorative justice, and they

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<v Speaker 1>don't think people should go to jail. We have a horrible,

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<v Speaker 1>lousy juvenile court judge named Bloom, Carrie Bloom, who who

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<v Speaker 1>thinks especially black boys should not be sent to jail

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<v Speaker 1>because of reparations and restorative justice.

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<v Speaker 2>So instead of.

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<v Speaker 1>Him, we have more crime, more shots fired, more victims,

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<v Speaker 1>more robberies, more drug sales, more breaking into cars, more

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<v Speaker 1>stolen cars than we've ever had, and we have fewer

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<v Speaker 1>people in the jail proportionally we've ever had. And so

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<v Speaker 1>half the judges are Republican. Half the judges are If

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<v Speaker 1>you get in front of a Democrat judge, and as

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<v Speaker 1>an experienced criminal defense attorney, you know how to work

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<v Speaker 1>the case to get in front of one of these judges.

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<v Speaker 1>When I practice law actively, i'd look in room may

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<v Speaker 1>who's coming up the weeks ahead, and I try to

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<v Speaker 1>get me an easy sentencing judge. I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>go in front of Judge Crush. I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>go in front of Judge Matthews or Judge I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to go in front of any of the tough judges.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to go in front of the easy ones.

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<v Speaker 2>You work the.

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<v Speaker 1>System to make sure your client is sentenced by an

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<v Speaker 1>easy judge.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when you have two to three one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>empty beds, that is chaos, Sheriff, that is absolute chaos.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, listen, the city is known for that right now.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really sad. And again that's who these people elect,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's going to continue to be that way. The

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<v Speaker 3>business is downtown until they get the nerve to start

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<v Speaker 3>firing these people not supporting them and get people in there.

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<v Speaker 4>They give them happy talk, Hey, we're going to fix it.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to get in the new police chief. Man

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<v Speaker 4>want to fix anything.

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<v Speaker 3>They'll get some person that's been fired from some other

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<v Speaker 3>department somewhere else. Probably won't hire anybody from within at all.

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<v Speaker 3>They'll go outside and they'll find some person that will

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<v Speaker 3>be like what they want them to do, and they.

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<v Speaker 4>Will do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, you're absolutely correct as far as trying to judge

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<v Speaker 3>shop people that are listening to your station right now.

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<v Speaker 3>When you were in college, you didn't pick the hard

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<v Speaker 3>the hardest professor. You went down, Hey, this one's hard,

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<v Speaker 3>that one's no, I'm going to go to this one. Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have to do but one term paper. They

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<v Speaker 3>don't come very often.

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<v Speaker 4>They're liberal.

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<v Speaker 3>That's who you picked. When you were in college. You

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<v Speaker 3>didn't pick the hardest one. Same with the judges they picked.

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<v Speaker 3>They judge shop. It's not rocket science, but the system

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<v Speaker 3>is so broke. The mayor, the city council, the city

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<v Speaker 3>manager all broke down. Listen, I tell people here in

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<v Speaker 3>Butler County, we're so fortunate. We're a thirty minute drive

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<v Speaker 3>maybe twenty five from downtown since right totally different here.

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<v Speaker 3>We got jails, we got judges, prosecutors, good police departments,

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<v Speaker 3>and we run it here. That's why people want to

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<v Speaker 3>come here. Thirty minute drives from here, downtown Hamilton, Butler County,

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<v Speaker 3>the county seat to total chaos. Thirty minute drive. That's

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<v Speaker 3>how if we were like Cincinnati, we would have the

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<v Speaker 3>same issues. But we are not sure.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've been accused of the social activist online that

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<v Speaker 1>you are monetizing and making money off illegals, can you

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<v Speaker 1>tell the American people how much money the Feds are

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<v Speaker 1>paying you in Butler County to house inmates in the

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<v Speaker 1>Butler County jail. I'd say, on a yearly basis, how

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<v Speaker 1>much money are you is to county getting.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, we're going to bring in twenty two million next year.

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<v Speaker 3>In the last twenty twenty years we bought in over

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred and the next this year, next year, and

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<v Speaker 3>into twenty seven, we're going to bring in a quarter

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<v Speaker 3>of a billion with a b a quarter of a

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<v Speaker 3>billion dollars. And that's what we're bringing into the county here. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>do we get paid to bring prisoners here? Sure we do.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't do it for free. We work with ICE.

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<v Speaker 3>We lock people up. The ICE goes with us. We

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<v Speaker 3>don't have the authority to make the arrest on ICE charges,

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<v Speaker 3>but ICE goes with us or thereby phone where we

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<v Speaker 3>make contact, they put the charges on them.

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<v Speaker 4>We go out with them to assist them. And we

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<v Speaker 4>help them.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't let them throw rocks at the police here.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't let them spit on the police here. You

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<v Speaker 3>can spit on the police, but you go to the

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<v Speaker 3>hospital first, then you'll.

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<v Speaker 4>Come to jail.

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<v Speaker 3>You throw a rock at us or a brick, you're

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<v Speaker 3>liable to get shot. So and if you jump in

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<v Speaker 3>front of a car of one of our citizens here,

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<v Speaker 3>they'll probably run over you. That's what happens. That's the difference.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the difference there. Thirty minute drive and do we

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<v Speaker 3>keep our communities. Yes, we've probably arrested a hunt probably

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<v Speaker 3>ice with us.

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<v Speaker 4>ICE is probably.

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<v Speaker 3>Arrested one hundred and fifty illegals Aaron, Butler County.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, you know, sounds to me like you're monetizing the

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<v Speaker 1>misery of others. According to the social activists, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>like the idea that you're housing these criminals. Claremont County

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<v Speaker 1>is starting to do the same thing in Boone County

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<v Speaker 1>and you're talking about a quarter of a billion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>in Butler County. That's a crap load of money, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's housing individuals that are they're not with you long

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<v Speaker 1>You a might have a hearing, might not and they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're in and they're.

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<v Speaker 4>Out three weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how long they stay because there is no federal

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<v Speaker 3>jail space other than what county jails.

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<v Speaker 4>And we're doing our part. Seventy eight percent of America.

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<v Speaker 3>Once these people shipped out, that's who they voted for.

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<v Speaker 3>Democrat and Republican. And the activists that come here don't

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<v Speaker 3>want you to make any arrest. But listen, they're here.

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<v Speaker 3>They're here illegally. I've seen something today. I haven't verified

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<v Speaker 3>it that fifty million illegals that are in the United States,

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<v Speaker 3>fifty million over so many years get welfare. Fifty men

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<v Speaker 3>and so trying. The Democrats are trying to get it

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<v Speaker 3>to where they can get this bill open. The government

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<v Speaker 3>back up only if that continues to give health care

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<v Speaker 3>to the illegals.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty seconds remaining. How long would it take Sheriff First

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<v Speaker 1>Richard K. Jones to clean up the city of Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, I said six months earlier. I could do it

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<v Speaker 3>in three months. They'd have to give me a contract.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd have to be able to keep my job as

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<v Speaker 3>the sheriff and Butler County I could fix that. The

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<v Speaker 3>police would love me. All law enforcement would love me.

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<v Speaker 3>I would get with the judges, I'd get with the prosecutor,

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<v Speaker 3>do the best I can. We would make a rest.

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<v Speaker 3>We would flood the courts, and we'd run people off

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<v Speaker 3>the streets, and all the punks and thugs, we'd run

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<v Speaker 3>them off, juveniles.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything would be over.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to talk to maybe the city manager. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna see if I get you appointed the interim police chief.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you like that?

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<v Speaker 4>Hey? For three months and a contract and.

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<v Speaker 3>A cutting fires and we'd have to get with the

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<v Speaker 3>prosecutor here to make sure I could keep my job

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<v Speaker 3>here as the share well, do both very easily.

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<v Speaker 1>Richard K. Jones, you're the best there is. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>coming on the Bill Cunningham Shaw. I'm gona start promoting

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<v Speaker 1>you to become the chief of Police of the City

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<v Speaker 1>of Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, the police would allow it.

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<v Speaker 1>Got sheriff, thank you, the chief of Police, Richard K. Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you very much. See here, Matt, all right, let's

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<v Speaker 1>continue with more now that would be something to cover

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<v Speaker 1>on news radio seven hundred.

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<v Speaker 5>Rising downtown violence and political pressure have catalyzed the chaos

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<v Speaker 5>regarding the Cincinnati police chief. While the interim chief steadies

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<v Speaker 5>the ship will community leaders turn to a tried and

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<v Speaker 5>true veteran to become police chief permanently, or will a

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<v Speaker 5>fresh face rise from within the ranks to restore calm

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<v Speaker 5>and credibility. As speculation is swirling, keep it here for

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<v Speaker 5>the latest on seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what your customers are doing right this second,

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<v Speaker 1>the exact same thing you are listening to.