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We have some fantasy 20 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 4: football to get to. A regular cast of characters along 21 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 4: the way, and so much to discuss, including as always, 22 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 4: a giveaway this week, Rock we have one of these 23 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 4: fine Sean Volker prints that is a very cool Bengal 24 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 4: tiger print. We're gonna give away this week. Ask your 25 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 4: server as she walks around for a ticket, you'll sign 26 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 4: your name on the back. 27 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: Give it to her. 28 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 4: We'll draw an eight. Got to be here at eight 29 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 4: to win. Someone's going home with the Sean Volker Bengal print. 30 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 4: We appreciate him sending that to us each and every 31 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 4: week to give away. We are creatures of habit and 32 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 4: our bodies are conditioned for Sunday Bengals football. You just 33 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 4: said it off air. It seems like the Bengals last 34 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 4: played like a month and a half ago. 35 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, a long time, but a fantastic game to 36 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 5: talk about. And we battled it around before a pregame 37 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 5: on the Thursday show, and I mean, what a great game. 38 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 4: And now a sense of renewed juice and optimism and 39 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 4: if you continue to look at the AFC North and 40 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 4: look at the AFC picture, things are still in play 41 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 4: for this team. We teetered on the edge of maybe 42 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 4: trading away players, maybe starting to look at things for 43 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 4: next season, the draft, and now all of a sudden, 44 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 4: through the power of Joe Flacco, this team has has 45 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 4: some hope and some optimism. 46 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,839 Speaker 5: And the Bengals did something they've traditionally not done. 47 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 3: Right. 48 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 6: They go outside the organization. 49 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 5: They make a in season trade that's happened a handful 50 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 5: of times in thirty forty years, and it's turned out 51 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 5: to be a great move, and it's it's really consolidated 52 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 5: this team. The belief is back, and yeah, we go 53 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 5: from we got to trade everybody way and get more 54 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 5: draft picks to maybe we got to make some trades 55 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 5: to you know, heighten this roster here moving forward. 56 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 4: Let's take a look at some headlines and then we 57 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 4: will go. We start with the Bengals. They continue prep 58 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 4: for Sunday's matchup versus THEE to seven Jets. 59 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 3: Today. 60 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 4: Trey Hendrickson again limited in practice, but at least was 61 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 4: on the practice field again. Cam Sample limited today, Tanner 62 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 4: Hudson was a full go, Charlie Jones was a full go. 63 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 4: The news on the Jets side, this is rather significant. 64 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 4: Sauce Gardner did not practice again today. He's in concussion protocol. 65 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 4: Garrett Wilson did not practice. 66 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 3: Today with a knee. 67 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 4: You could argue those are their two, if not their 68 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 4: two best, two of their three best players on the roster, 69 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 4: and neither practice for the second consecutive day. That'll be 70 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 4: very interesting to watch tomorrow with the injury designations with 71 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 4: practice the developing situation with the Bengals. Within the last 72 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 4: hour or so, Ben Baby of ESPN ESPN dot com 73 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 4: is reporting that linebacker Logan Wilson has requested a trade. 74 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 4: Playing time has diminished over the last couple of weeks, 75 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 4: obviously with more snaps and opportunities given to Barrett Carter 76 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 4: and to Demetrius Night. Junior Logan Wilson wanting to play 77 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 4: more and not getting that opportunity here. We'd like to 78 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 4: do that someplace else. We'll get into the ramifications of 79 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 4: that and if it would make sense to deal Logan. 80 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 3: Wilson in a bit. 81 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 4: Following a second reduction vote of candidates in the Pro 82 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 4: Football Hall of Fame Seniors category, thirty four players remain 83 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 4: under consideration for the class of twenty twenty six. They 84 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 4: include Ken Anderson, Lamar Parrish, and Isaac Curtis. Those three advancing. 85 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:34,119 Speaker 4: The next countdown is to nine candidates in about a month. 86 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 4: Ravens late this afternoon announced the signing of defensive end 87 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 4: Carl Lawson. The former Bengal had five sacks for the 88 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,239 Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys a year ago. Thursday Night Football Tonight, Vikings 89 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 4: are at the Chargers eight fifteen on Fox Sports thirteen 90 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 4: sixty U see takes on Baylor in a Saturday homecoming 91 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 4: matchup at Nippert Scott Saderfield. Named to the Dodd Trophy 92 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 4: Midseason watch List, it is presented annually. 93 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,119 Speaker 3: To the nation's top coach. 94 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 4: More of the bear Cats in about an hour from now, 95 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 4: when Chad Brundle checks in. Baseball will be the J's 96 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 4: and Dodgers in the World Series Game one Tomorrow night 97 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 4: from Toronto. Red Starred Basement key Brian Hayes wins the 98 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 4: twenty twenty five Fielding Bible Award at third base. The 99 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 4: award voted on by a panel of experts. They consider 100 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 4: statistical analysis, the eye test, and other factors they wish 101 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 4: to utilize. The award given at each position. Today, Soccer 102 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 4: FC Cincinnati began work for its playoff opener Monday against 103 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 4: the Columbus Crew. MLS finalist for the year end awards 104 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 4: today include Evander for the MVP Award and Nick Hagland 105 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 4: for a Comeback Player of the Year award. In the NBA, 106 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 4: you talk about a developing situation. We gotta find some 107 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 4: time for this later on Holy talk about tip of 108 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 4: the iceberg stuff. Portland Trailblazers head coach Chauncey Billups, Miami 109 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 4: heat guard Terry Rozier, and former Cavs player and assistant 110 00:05:55,800 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 4: Damon Jones arrested today in a wide ranging invent investigation 111 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 4: into illegal sports betting and rigged poker games backed by 112 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 4: the mafia. The deeper you read into this and the 113 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 4: more details you read it is it's both wow, how 114 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 4: did that happen? And then there's also a thought of 115 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 4: will is anybody surprised that this has happened? 116 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 3: Right? Sooner? Sooner? 117 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll get into a little bit of that before 118 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 4: we're done. At Hockey Cyclones home against the Comments tomorrow night. 119 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 3: It's Peanuts night. 120 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 4: The Clones wear Peanuts Great Pumpkin jerseys for the game. 121 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 4: All right, Our our headlines are set. Our guest list 122 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 4: Tonight's Tonight Trags coming up at six twenty cl NS 123 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 4: Media at seven o six tonight. Chad Brendel, Bearcat Journal 124 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 4: seven p. Thirty six, Greg Shoemaker a circle four high 125 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 4: school football games. 126 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 3: We will discuss it at seven fifty. 127 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 4: Dan Klaskins as your fantasy football fix in and around 128 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 4: all that whole bunch of Bengals conversation. Let's get to 129 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 4: it as we continue with Trags. He's Rocky on Lance 130 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 4: again as your server. Cameron is our server tonight. Great 131 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 4: to see Cameron. As you see servers making their way around, 132 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 4: ask them for a ticket, sign your name, just need 133 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 4: your name, They'll take it, put it in the hopper, 134 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 4: and at eight o'clock we will draw. Must be here 135 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 4: to win. Somebody's gonna pick up that print behind us. 136 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 4: Here at Long Neck's in Richwood. It's the Cincinnati Tax 137 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 4: Resolution powered by Tope Sheldon Roundtable Show, Long Necks in 138 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 4: Richwood and presented by Postman. 139 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 3: Law seven HUNDREDLW Thursday Night. 140 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 4: We're hanging at it long Next in Richwood, the Cincinnati 141 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 4: Tax Resolution powered by Top Sheldon round Table Show. It's 142 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 4: presented by Postman Law. Brought to you in part by 143 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 4: Hawksworth Blood Centers, Hawksworth Donors Save Lives Close to Home. 144 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 4: Who will you say by the way programming note location. 145 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 4: Note next week we are on the move to the 146 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 4: Hebron location. We will stay at the Hebrew location through 147 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 4: the month of November. Market on your calendars. Next week, 148 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 4: a week earlier than usual, we'll head to Hebron and 149 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 4: set up shop there each and every Thursday night through 150 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 4: the month of November. You're going to text me, I 151 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 4: will I will be. I'll schedule some text right now 152 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 4: to remind you. Along the way, let's talk with the 153 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 4: man who's got it covered on the Bengals beat for 154 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 4: c l NS sinceiwithey dot com, host of the Jungle 155 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 4: Roar podcast on YouTube. He's the man they call trags 156 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 4: Mike Petrellia, how are we doing tonight? 157 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 7: And you know Rocky. 158 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 8: Sometimes he'll text you and uh, the guy that's supposed 159 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 8: to show up at the right location shows up at 160 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 8: the wrong location, not saying that. 161 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 7: Ever happen to me or anything. 162 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 6: I still blame Lance, Mike. I still blame Lance, no 163 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 6: matter what. 164 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 4: Is Mike, I wonder that Let's go yeah, yeah, let's uh, 165 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 4: let's go big picture first. Paint us a little picture, 166 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 4: give us a comparing contrast of just kind of the 167 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 4: mood of the vibe around this team. You're around him 168 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 4: every day from say two weeks ago to now with 169 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 4: the arrival of Joe Flacco, and how this team has 170 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 4: played since and and where things stand, well. 171 00:08:59,000 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 7: That's a great question. 172 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 9: Land. 173 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 8: That is markedly different. It's markedly more positive. And the 174 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 8: word I would use is there's significantly more energy in 175 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 8: the locker room because I think the Bengals have been 176 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 8: interjected with the sense of hope that they have a 177 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 8: guy in Joe Placo who has a strong arm. He's 178 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 8: won a Super Bowl, He's been through the riggers, He's 179 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 8: played as a starting quarterback, He's played on many teams 180 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 8: as a backup. He knows his role, and even as 181 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 8: a backup to Joe Burrow, he still has this calmness 182 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 8: about him and this leadership that he can provide, certainly 183 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 8: to the younger players. And I think that was great 184 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 8: last week before the Pittsburgh game. But I think going 185 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 8: out and actually having the game Placo did, playing as 186 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 8: cleanly as he did, watching the offense perform so much 187 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 8: more efficiently, and getting to win in the closing seconds 188 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 8: gave this team the sense that, Okay, now we can 189 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 8: get back to where we were posts a pre Joe 190 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 8: Burrow injury, and I think that, you know, the energy 191 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 8: and the hope are the two things that I've noticed 192 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 8: pick up over the last couple of weeks. 193 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 5: And tracks to that note with Flacco come in and 194 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 5: everyone knows how beloved Joe Burrow is and how loved 195 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 5: he is in the locker room, and how the players, 196 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 5: how he reacts with them, how they react with to him. 197 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 6: If you pick up on any similarities or differences between 198 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 6: Joe Burrow and Joe Flacco, just with how the players 199 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 6: view him or how he I guess it competes on 200 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 6: a day to day basis. 201 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 8: That is a very difficult question to answer, Rocky, and 202 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 8: certainly Joe Flacco has been asked that question. 203 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 7: We haven't had the chance to. 204 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 8: Interview Joe Burrow yet since his injury, but. 205 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 7: Joe Flacco and I asked him this yesterday. 206 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 8: He is trying, I think, to give Joe Burrow his 207 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 8: space and let Joeoe Burrow talk when he wants to talk, 208 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 8: and not you know, step over any boundaries. And you know, 209 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 8: Jake Browning is a part of this equation as well, 210 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 8: because let's not forget after three starts, Jake Browning was 211 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 8: replaced by Joe Flacco when they went out and made 212 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 8: the trade. So it's kind of an odd dynamic that's 213 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 8: going on. But I think again, Joe Flacco, being the 214 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 8: veteran he is, comes in, he's not stepping on any toes. 215 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 8: He's very respectful of everybody, and you know, he's not 216 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 8: trying to be Joe Burrow. He's not trying to do 217 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 8: what Joe Burrow did. He's trying to come in and 218 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 8: just run a very functional, highly functional offense with great 219 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 8: weapons around it, and make sure they perform to the 220 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 8: level they're capable of. But off the field, I think, 221 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 8: you know, the best way to put it with Joe Flacco, 222 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 8: I think is he's laying low and trying to let 223 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 8: you know everybody in the locker room come to him. 224 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 4: As you talked with Dan Pitcher, Bengals up ense coordinator, 225 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 4: he is two years just over two years younger than 226 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 4: Joe Flacco. About Dan being able to pick up things 227 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 4: from from Joe Flacco and and how Dan thinks that 228 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 4: maybe even Joe Burrow could pick up things from Joe Flacco. 229 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 8: Well, I think this is really about Joe Flacco. When 230 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 8: the play's not there, he gives up on it and says, 231 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 8: we're going to live to play another down. When Joe Burrow. 232 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 7: Sees the play breakdown, I think one. 233 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 8: Of the critiques of Joe Burrow, and Burrow has acknowledged 234 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 8: this himself. He tries to force the play into something productive. 235 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 7: And I you know, I think one. 236 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 10: Of the things that he's learned, even as a superstar. 237 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 8: Quarterback that he is Burrow needs to more often live 238 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 8: to play another down. And on the play he got 239 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 8: hurt against the Jacksonville Jaguars. You know, Joe Sorry, Zach 240 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 8: Taylor and Dan Picture both of acknowledged he probably should 241 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 8: have given up on the plane, gotten rid of the ball, 242 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 8: but instead he held onto the ball and eventually, as 243 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 8: we know, got sacked and injured on the play injuring 244 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 8: his foot. And you know, that's one of the lessons 245 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 8: I think comes with time, even even Joe Burrow needs 246 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 8: to learn. And I think that's one of the things 247 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 8: that Dan Picture is learning from Joe Flacco is lived, 248 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 8: lived to play another down. 249 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 5: And you make a great point, it's it's even less 250 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 5: about okay, you know, making a player, not making a play. 251 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 6: It's about Joe Burrow's health. 252 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 5: Give up on one and Zach Taylor or any football 253 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 5: coach in the NFL will say, you know what, we 254 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 5: rather have you be healthy then you you know, twirl 255 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 5: around and throw a past seventy five yards down the 256 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 5: field and we get a touchdown. They'll they'll give up 257 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 5: that touchdown or even that win to have a healthy 258 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 5: quarterback throughout the length this season, no question. 259 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 8: And I think that's what the Bengals have to, you know, 260 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 8: get through to Joe Burrow, and Joe Burrow has to 261 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 8: be accepting of this. I think he will be. But 262 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 8: you know, Joe Burrow is a stubborn athlete, and I 263 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 8: mean that in the most positive sense. He wants to 264 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 8: make whatever is in front of him work. 265 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 7: And he has that mind. 266 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 8: You know, Rocky, he processes so much information that when 267 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 8: he processes that much information, he doesn't. 268 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 7: Want to waste it. 269 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 3: He wants to make use of it and. 270 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 8: He wants to make something out of nothing. And Joe 271 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 8: Flacco's not like that. He is, Okay, if the play's 272 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 8: not there, I'm not going to force it. I'm going 273 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 8: to again live to play another down. And you know 274 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 8: that's the difference between the two quarterbacks. And I think 275 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 8: that I'm curious to see how Joe Burrow plays when 276 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 8: he returns, presumably in mid December, if the Bengals are 277 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 8: A in it and B he's healthy enough to play. 278 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 8: I'm curious to see if we see some very subtle 279 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 8: nuance changes in the way Burrow a tax defenses. 280 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 4: Trag's Jamar Chase continues to be must listen to every 281 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 4: Thursday when he holds court. Today, tell explain to listeners 282 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 4: what he said in terms of his rate on Joe 283 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 4: Burrow through this and what was his reaction to Joe 284 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 4: Flacco eating at restaurants by himself. 285 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 8: Great, Okay, First of all, Jamar Chase ain't going out 286 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 8: to restaurants by himself. 287 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 3: We learned that today. 288 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 8: And if he devis and he's with Joe Flacco, he's 289 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 8: gonna pull Joe Flacco aside and say, hey, Joe, we're. 290 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 7: Going in the back room. 291 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 8: We're gonna get a private waiter or waitress and have 292 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 8: her or him or her serve us, and we're gonna 293 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 8: have a nice quiet meal alone. We don't need to 294 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 8: be out in public looking at other people. The thing 295 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 8: he said about Joe Burrow that was interesting Lance is 296 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 8: that he thinks that Joe Burrow is in a pretty 297 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 8: good space mentally, and I thought that was pretty telling. 298 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 8: He thinks that Joe Burrow's sporting the rock star hairdo. 299 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 7: You know the hair over his face that we saw 300 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 7: before the Steeler game. 301 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 8: That was pretty funny, but it's Jamar said it's hard 302 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 8: to read Burrows sometimes in terms of his mood, and 303 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 8: he tried to stay away from that as much as possible. 304 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 8: But what he did tell us is he thinks that 305 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 8: Burrows had a pretty good headspace. 306 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 4: Shamar Stewart return from the ankle injury, didn't have a 307 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 4: game that caught your eye, certainly on Thursday night. Some 308 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 4: of that I would think rust of not playing for 309 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 4: a month either way. Yeah, they need more from him 310 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 4: on Sunday. 311 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 8: Right, especially if they give Trey Hendrickson another week to 312 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 8: recuperate from the hip injury. They need Shamar Stewart to 313 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 8: be better, more impactful. He only played I believe, twenty 314 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 8: two snaps of the fifty eighth defensive snaps on Thursday 315 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 8: night against Pittsburgh, and to his own admission yesterday, he 316 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 8: said it was a sub far performance. I need to 317 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 8: be better, but I think I will be better once 318 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 8: I get more reps. He also said the ankle, any 319 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 8: ankle injury is a tricky thing because it can you know, 320 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 8: improve very quickly, but it can also you know, you know, 321 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 8: worsened very quickly if you don't treat it carefully, if 322 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 8: you don't listen to your body. So that's one thing 323 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 8: I think, you know, Tamar Stewart wants to go. I 324 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 8: think he wanted to get on the field against the 325 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 8: Steelers just to get the feel of playing game speed 326 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,479 Speaker 8: again on the ankle. This week, I think Shamar Stewart 327 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 8: will be more of an impact and he should be 328 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 8: against this Jets offensive line and against I'm going to 329 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 8: guess it's Justin Fields just because of his ability to 330 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 8: run the ball and what he did against the Bengals 331 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 8: in Week two of twenty twenty one. 332 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 7: I think you know, the Jets are going to go 333 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 7: with Justin Fields. But we'll find out on Sunday. 334 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 4: All Right, tregs for everybody wants to read, watch and 335 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 4: follow all you have that's all over Bengals coverage. Tell 336 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 4: them how they can go about doing that. 337 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 8: Well, We're going to have a story up shortly tonight 338 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 8: about Josh Newton talking about DJ Turner's emergence this year 339 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 8: as a star cornerback in the NFL. 340 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 7: We're also going to have a breakdown. 341 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 8: Of the Logan Wilson trade demand that Ben Baby of 342 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 8: ESPN broke late this afternoon. We'll have that up on 343 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 8: Stealing s Sincy with a y dot com. You can 344 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 8: follow my Jamar Chase interviews from today's press conference on 345 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 8: Twitter at Trags tr Ags and as always the Jungle 346 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 8: War podcast page at YouTube YouTube. 347 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 7: Dot com slash at Jungle Roar Pod. 348 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 4: Always fantastic stuff, always good catching up. We'll talk again 349 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 4: next week. 350 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 3: Thank you. 351 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 8: All right, gentlemen, take care Tanks Trags. 352 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 4: He's the man we call Trags, Mike Petralia and that 353 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 4: is your look at the Bengals. 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Yes, I think this is a very obvious one. 376 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 4: Our Ovation Standing Ovation to Jamar Chase, who turned it 377 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 4: in absolutely still hard to believe, incredible performance on Thursday 378 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 4: Night Football targeted what twenty three times twenty three best. 379 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 6: It's everything I talk about all the time. 380 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 3: Just kill the ball to your playmakers. 381 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 4: Film sixteen catches, one hundred and sixty one yards a touchdown. 382 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 4: He wons AFC Offensive Player of the Week honors, and 383 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 4: I swear I thought at halftime he came out of 384 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 4: the locker room third quartery makes a catch right away, 385 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 4: and I'm thinking he's gonna get twenty catches. 386 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 3: Tonight they kept doing the same out to the sideline 387 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 3: and the Steeler just they had no ant. They just 388 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 3: kept letting him do it. They had no answer, no 389 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 3: adjustment to it. 390 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 5: And in credit the Bengals four or if it's working, 391 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 5: keeping doing it. And I've always told you Lance, the 392 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 5: team that used to do that more than anybody that 393 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 5: I played, the Patriots, if they found a play that work, 394 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 5: would do it again and again and again and again 395 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 5: until you stopped it. 396 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 6: And then once you adjusted, then they would go on 397 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 6: the next thing. So the guy him the ball in 398 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 6: multiple ways. 399 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 5: As you know, I always say, if you're a coach 400 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 5: and you're standing up at the press box or press 401 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 5: conference after the game after a loss, you would much 402 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 5: rather say, you know what, we went to our best 403 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 5: players a lot tonight and they had an answer for it. 404 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 6: Hats off to them. 405 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 3: Yep. 406 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 6: And that's what the Bengals are doing. 407 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 5: And Joe Flacco probably doesn't know the ins and outs 408 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 5: of every scheme and every call, but he knows that 409 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 5: number one is usually gonna be open and give him. 410 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 3: The ball yep. 411 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 4: And just keep taking what they're giving me. If they're 412 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 4: gonna give it to us, we'll just keep taking it. 413 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 4: He was asking. Charlie Goldsmith wrote a great piece this 414 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 4: week for Charlie's Chalkboard about how many catches Jamar Chase 415 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 4: might be able to get in a game. 416 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 3: And Jamari even. 417 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 4: Said today when he was asking about it, he thought, 418 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 4: he looked, paused, and he thought, eh, twenty six, and 419 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 4: then he said realistic. You know, seventeen eighteen a game. 420 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 4: And you know most people who would say that, you'd say, oh, 421 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 4: come on, but Jamar I I, it's really not. That's 422 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 4: not like a one time thing. He could do that. 423 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 4: He can make a run at those type of numbers 424 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 4: every week. 425 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 5: It seems he's confident. He's so savvy. He's the best athlete. 426 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 5: But he's so savvy he can tell he knows the game. 427 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 5: He knows that the nuances of how to get open 428 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 5: and look. 429 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 4: He's so dang strong. Once he catches it, he breaks 430 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 4: tackles like. 431 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 3: A running back. I mean it's that. 432 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 6: The power is incredible, absolutely incredible. 433 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, And look, is he gonna be able to turn 434 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 5: in fifteen plus catch games. 435 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 6: Every single week? No, because defense are gonna counter. 436 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 4: And then it's t Higgins who has a big game benefits, 437 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 4: or it's Chase Brown. 438 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 3: The beauty of the offense. 439 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 5: And every other weapon on that offense should be thrilled 440 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 5: about this because it's gonna happen. I mean, I guarantee 441 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 5: you Aaron Glenn is sitting in his house right now 442 00:22:58,280 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 5: for the Jets. 443 00:22:58,800 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 3: One. 444 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 5: Look, guys, I can sit here and watch number one 445 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 5: catch fifteen to twenty balls, all right, So do whatever 446 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 5: you gotta do to take him out of the game. 447 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 6: And that showed up some other things. 448 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 4: The other part of what unfolded on Thursday night that 449 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 4: allowed this to happen, or contributed to this happening. They 450 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 4: actually discovered a running game. They averaged six point two 451 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 4: yards of carry, Chase Brown averaged nine point eight. Those 452 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 4: numbers are unrealistic week to week, but just some semblance 453 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 4: of a running game makes the defense think instead of 454 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 4: just pass past past, thinking all right, they might run 455 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 4: and Chase Brown's rumbling for twenty seven yards for thirty 456 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 4: seven yards and gashing them. That's when your offense just 457 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 4: opens up and the playbook goes wide open. 458 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 5: Well, it's funny because on the Thursday show you were 459 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 5: talking about, look, we should just abandon the run game, 460 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 5: and I was like, look, you gotta hang in there 461 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 5: with that thing. You can't just you can't just go 462 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 5: away from a run game takes some time to establish. 463 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 3: I need to check the podcast. 464 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 6: That was a great conversation about it. 465 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 3: No, it was good. 466 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 6: If you didn't hear, I was on the on the 467 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 6: you know. 468 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 4: The you don't want to pound square pegs into round 469 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 4: holes if you're you're head into. 470 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 6: The wall, just because of how they were built. 471 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 5: But but look, I think what happened was, first of all, 472 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 5: and I found this out in every game I've played 473 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 5: in or called something works. I mean, it's still an 474 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 5: emotional game. It's still something that you feed and get 475 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 5: energy off of. Yes, So what was in that third 476 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 5: series Chase Brown breaks that one for twenty seven I 477 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 5: think everyone goes, I'm my god, we can't do this. 478 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 5: You know, the offensive line gets some juice behind him 479 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 5: say boy, let's pour them all. 480 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 6: Let's do it again. So it has a tendency to snowball. 481 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 5: And credit the Bengals and Zach Taylor for still leaning 482 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 5: on that as they got some momentum. 483 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,719 Speaker 4: The beneficiary of all this, of course, Joe Flacco, who 484 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 4: played very well on Thursday night and he has gone viral, 485 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 4: as they say, over the last day for his comments 486 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 4: yesterday that everybody's buzzing about and I figured, how can 487 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 4: we talk about it and not let you hear the 488 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 4: two minute exchange yesterday Joe who every time he talks, 489 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 4: I said, yesterd. The more he talks, the more fascinating 490 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 4: I find the guy because he is such a just 491 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 4: a sounds like such. 492 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 3: A wise guy. 493 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 4: Why is beyond his years even at age forty? And 494 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 4: he was asked innocently enough by Joe Daniman what it's 495 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 4: been like being here this quick change in life and 496 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 4: his family stayed behind in Cleveland, and and what it's 497 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 4: like being here on his own, and what it's like 498 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 4: being out eventually on his own. Listen to Joe Flacco 499 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 4: talking about how his life has changed as as quarterback, 500 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 4: husband and dad. 501 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 3: Here's Joe Flacco from yesterday. 502 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 11: The good thing, I guess you could say is that 503 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 11: I was in Cleveland by myself. You know, my family 504 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 11: was in New Jersey. We decided to do that this 505 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 11: year because last year we decided to do it the 506 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 11: other way, and this year we just said, hey, let's 507 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 11: keep the kids in their routine. And you know, see 508 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 11: how that goes. And there's been challenges with that. You know, 509 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,959 Speaker 11: I love being there and around them and doing all 510 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 11: those things, but at the same time, like they get 511 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 11: in their routine and having a lot of fun back 512 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 11: at home. Early on in the season, they came out 513 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 11: to Cleveland and they're going to come out to this 514 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 11: week's game. And I think there's always a challenge of 515 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 11: sitting in a room by yourself and being lonely. So 516 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 11: for me, it's trying to find ways to maybe stay 517 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 11: over here a little bit longer and then you know, 518 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 11: just kind of take myself out of that mindset, call home, 519 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 11: go sit at a restaurant, buy myself and realize that, man, 520 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 11: that's pretty enjoyable to do. You know. After there's not 521 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,239 Speaker 11: too many situations, I tell you, I tell people all 522 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 11: the time, I used to see guys sitting at a 523 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 11: bar by themselves, or you know, just sitting by themselves 524 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 11: eating and grabbing a little meal. And I'm like, man, 525 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 11: I feel so baded for that guy. You almost want 526 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 11: to go join them. And now I realize, like that 527 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 11: dude was in heaven. And not to say that that's 528 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 11: that's obviously not what I want. 529 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: I'd rather. 530 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 11: I'd rather be at home, sitting at the dinner table 531 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 11: with my kids and hearing what the hell they were 532 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 11: talking about all day. But there are but but if 533 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 11: you have to do it, then you might as well 534 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 11: take advantage of it. So, you know, just little things like. 535 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 4: That, or Cincinnati and is starting to see you at 536 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 4: restaurants and take pictures and say. 537 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 11: Hello, I guess so maybe a little bit. I try 538 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 11: to get there early, you know, I'll go eat the 539 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 11: four thirty dinner and and and and beat and beat 540 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 11: everybody up, beat everybody out out of work and out 541 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 11: of the house. 542 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 4: Joe Flacco yesterday, two minutes that will live forever in 543 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 4: the minds of Bengal, so relatable on so many different levels. 544 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 4: Be it athlete, be it husband, be it dad, be 545 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 4: it just a human being. 546 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 3: That was fantastic. That was fantastic. 547 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 5: I mean, look, my especial vent my second half of 548 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 5: my years in the league, and I didn't have a 549 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 5: family and wife or kids or anything. But I was 550 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 5: on my own and there was a strange calmness of 551 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 5: being able to go eat, be by yourself, you know, 552 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 5: And and I would. I'm a routine guy, you know 553 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 5: that I would go to the same place on Thursday, 554 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 5: in the same place on Wednesday, the whole deal. But 555 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 5: uh yeah, I think he's he's embraced it. I'm sure 556 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 5: he misses his kids, but they also knows. Look, I'm 557 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 5: I'm here to do a job, and this is not 558 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 5: something that's gonna last a year or two years. This 559 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 5: is like another two month sort of thing. So I'm 560 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 5: gonna dial in and enjoy the quiet moments while I 561 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 5: can but focus on being a good player. 562 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 3: You will. 563 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 4: You travel every week for ESPN, What could we find 564 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 4: a spot of Rocky boyman sitting and eating and reflecting 565 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 4: on life by himself. 566 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 5: We really, all you have to do is if you 567 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 5: find the nearest first watch in the town I'm in, 568 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 5: and you go there at what eight thirty am? 569 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 3: Eight am? 570 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 6: Because I get up, I work out, and I go 571 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 6: I find the first watch, I order the same thing. 572 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 6: You you will find me. That's where I will be. 573 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 4: You are truly creature of habit. Looking up in the 574 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 4: dictionary see Rocky boyman, that is beautiful. 575 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 3: Have you ever got? You know what I've done? I've got, 576 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 3: I will, and. 577 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 4: I will do this several times. I'll go to a 578 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 4: baseball game, Reds game by myself. I like moving around that. 579 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 4: Not that I leave Kelly at home on purpose, but 580 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 4: if she wasn't around it, go to the game. I 581 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 4: like moving around and sitting in different spots in the 582 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 4: stadium all by myself to watch. 583 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 3: I tried that, but i'd like to. If you've been 584 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 3: to a movie by yourself. 585 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 6: That's what I was gonna say. 586 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 5: I've done that a lot again, especially when in my 587 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 5: single days. Yeah, oh, there's oddly coming now. 588 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 3: My friend Jack. 589 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 6: Comes with me usually when I go to the movies, 590 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 6: But other than that. 591 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 3: It's just me. You got a flask in your sock 592 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 3: or something? 593 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: What are you? 594 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 3: What are you talking about? Yes, you used to. 595 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 6: That was my younger day. 596 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 4: There are so many levels of you that either amuse me, 597 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 4: ancuse me, or really bother me. 598 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 3: Well continue, it's the Cincinnati. 599 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 4: I should write out of these down for a book, 600 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 4: My Time with Rods, The Story of the intricacies of 601 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 4: a for NFL line. Yes, it's the Cincinnati Tax Resolution 602 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 4: powered by Topeeshot and round Table Show Long Necks in Richwood. 603 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 4: This spot it's presented by Postman Law seven hundred w 604 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 4: l Wood for the Round Table Show. Brought to you 605 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 4: in Bared by Howksworth Blood Centers, Hawkesworth Donors Save Lives 606 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 4: Close to Home? Who will you Save? Lance Pacalister, Rocky Boyman. 607 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 4: Let's review last week's drive of the game, brought to 608 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 4: you by Driveway Dumpsters in Cincinnati. Black and yellow does 609 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 4: mean trash. Visit d dumpsters dot com. We'll go with 610 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 4: the game winning drive engineer by Joe Flacco. Nice slide 611 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 4: after a catch and run by t Higgins leads to 612 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 4: the game winning field goal was an eight play fifty 613 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 4: two yard drive. They took over with two fourteen to 614 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 4: go and beat the Pittsburgh Steelers. And while we're at it, 615 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 4: let's review last week's defensive play of the game, brought 616 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 4: to you by O'Connor at Schohanny and Levy Attorneys. You 617 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 4: know attorneys you trust. Visit oh a l dash Law 618 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 4: dot com. Look at that, I did it so matter 619 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 4: of factly, you didn't you want to aim paying. 620 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 3: Attention to him. It was clean, smooth. 621 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 4: We'll go with DJ Turner, whose interception heck of an 622 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 4: interception along the sidelines. I also think Genostone gets some 623 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 4: credit for delivering the hit which may have loosed him 624 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 4: that thing up, and DJ strips it away for an 625 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 4: incredible pick and gets his feet in upon review for 626 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 4: our defensive play of the game. While we're on the 627 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 4: defensive side of things. The news of the day, as 628 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 4: reported by Ben Baby of ESPN ESPN dot com, Logan 629 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 4: Wilson has requested a trade. I don't think anybody should 630 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 4: be could be surprised at this. He's a veteran, he's 631 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 4: a captain. He's been the starting linebacker for his time 632 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 4: here in Cincinnati, and the Bengals made a calculated move 633 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 4: to go younger at the position, and they are playing 634 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 4: two two rookie linebackers, and Barrett Carter and Dimitri's Night junior, 635 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 4: and Barrett Carter has replaced Logan Wilson. He's had some flashes, 636 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 4: he's also had some miss tackles. I think he's tied 637 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 4: for I think he's had at least three miss tackles 638 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 4: each of the last two weeks. But if your Logan will, 639 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 4: let's talk from Logan's perspective. You know how it is, 640 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 4: as you become a veteran later in your career, if 641 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 4: somebody takes away your playing time and you don't feel 642 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 4: like you're done, you want to play somewhere, so you 643 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 4: seek an opportunity or at least tell the team you'd 644 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 4: like to pursue an opportunity someplace else if you can 645 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 4: be trying. 646 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 5: Look, everybody to some degree is looking out for themselves 647 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 5: in this deal, right, and Logan Wilson, I think has 648 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 5: earned the right to do that. 649 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 6: Been a veteran, I'm sure. 650 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 5: He saw what happened in the draft and kind of 651 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 5: got a little indication of what may be happening. I 652 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 5: think from his perspective, Although Bret Carter did lead the 653 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 5: Bengals and tackles on Thursday, I think he's looking just saying, 654 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 5: is there not a way to, you know, spell Barrett 655 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 5: Carter in a little bit and give him some packages 656 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 5: and still have me involved. 657 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 6: I think it's the abruptness of. 658 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 4: The very definitive instead of like rotation. It went straight 659 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 4: to Barrett's the starter on every snap, and Logan will 660 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,719 Speaker 4: be worked in on some packages. And it just like 661 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 4: from zero to sixty five miles an hour, it happened. 662 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 5: It's yeah, and again, having two rookie linebackers. I still 663 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 5: think even though yes, his production in the flash plays 664 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 5: are not there, I still think there's something about having 665 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 5: a veteran presence in that linebacking court. I mean, what 666 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 5: we you know, I remember just going back to my 667 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 5: Titans days. You know, Randall Godfrey was a linebacker, been 668 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 5: in the league a long time, and he would he 669 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 5: would play bass defense, you know, but when they would 670 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 5: go nickel or dime, or would go Tennessee package, I 671 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 5: would come in, you know that kind of thing. But 672 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 5: but you still had him out there and you're still involved. 673 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 5: And I felt like that was important. Yes, he was 674 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 5: not he was at a stage in his career where 675 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,719 Speaker 5: he couldn't be out there every play. Sure, getting him 676 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 5: out there to some degree. I hope they find a 677 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 5: way to do it. 678 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 4: And credit Logan Wilson, who when this became, this the 679 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 4: original news of Barrett taking his spot. Basically, Logan has 680 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 4: been very upfront and supportive of Barrett Carter in the 681 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 4: locker room. There's a clip of him, you know, with 682 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 4: his you know arm alongside Barrett Carter saying I'm here 683 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 4: for him to help in any way I can. Which 684 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 4: is the pro that Logan Wilson is. That's how he 685 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 4: carries himself. On the other side, if you're the organization 686 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 4: and right now they're backup linebackers beyond Logan Wilson, it's 687 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 4: or Burks and. 688 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 3: Shaka Heyward, that's it. 689 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 4: And they've got another on the practice squad who nobody knows, 690 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 4: but organizationally, if I'm the Bengals, I'm saying, we understand 691 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 4: your frustration, but privately and publicly, you want the experience 692 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:16,479 Speaker 4: of him. 693 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 3: Depth is there is he in the NFL. 694 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 6: There is absolutely no scenario where they are gonna grant 695 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 6: him a trade. 696 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,240 Speaker 3: That expose yourself. 697 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 4: I mean, you leave yourself without a whole lot of depth, 698 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 4: counting on two rooking linebackers. 699 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 5: That is the business, and it's the hard side of 700 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 5: the business. It It happens everybody to some degree. And yeah, 701 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 5: for him, they're not gonna trade him because, yes, something 702 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 5: happens in one of those two rookies which is. 703 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 6: Likely going to happen in a seventeen game season. 704 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 5: You want a guy in there that can go in 705 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 5: and play, knows the defense without getting a lot of 706 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 5: practice reps. 707 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 6: That's a good point because the starters get. 708 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 5: Most of the reps, but a backup comes in and 709 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 5: as she was, like, oh my god. But if it's 710 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,720 Speaker 5: a guy like Logan Wilson, you know, and you're al Golden, 711 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 5: you say, okay, well he knows what to do. 712 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 6: Here's just a matter of dorn it. 713 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 4: How about this tweet from Charlie Goldsmith a few minutes ago. 714 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 4: He tweets when you bench a defensive captain and an 715 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 4: established starter during the season, you take a risk and 716 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 4: open yourself up to consequences like the Logan Wilson. Like 717 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,479 Speaker 4: Logan Wilson requesting a trade, the Bengals bet on Barrett Carter. 718 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 4: The organizational decision to bench Wilson was surprising, and it 719 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 4: was clear at that time that it could have a 720 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 4: big ripple effect. Wilson was asked about his future with 721 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 4: the team in an interview right away whether there could 722 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 4: be more pressure on Carter now there's even more pressure 723 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 4: on the front office and coaching staff. They have to 724 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 4: have been right about the rookies for those consequences to 725 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 4: be worth it. I mean, they put their chips on 726 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 4: two rookie linebackers and said, go show us what you got. 727 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 4: And with that comes there's gonna be moments where you say, 728 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 4: that's why we drafted him. And there's gonna be moments 729 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 4: where Al Golden probably covers his eyes, going what were they. 730 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 3: Doing on that play? 731 00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 6: Right? 732 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 4: And that's the reality of this situation, which is why 733 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 4: you and I were both on the side of let's 734 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 4: let's ease him in a little bit kind of thing. 735 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 6: But I you know, for they have their reasons of 736 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 6: doing things. 737 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 5: They want some more, some more splash plays out of 738 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 5: that group, so they're gonna throw him in the fire. 739 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 6: I guess they're you know Al Golden. 740 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 5: Saying the only way is gonna get experience is to 741 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 5: go in there and play. 742 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the only way is gonna get better. All right, 743 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 4: we've put one in the books. Let's take a look 744 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,399 Speaker 4: at already. Wow, how about that. Let's take a look 745 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 4: at our seven o'clock hour. I see Chad Breundle Bearcat 746 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 4: journal at the seven oh six. You see with a 747 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 4: homecoming matchup against the Baylor Bears. You talk about two 748 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 4: high scoring football teams. You see has averaging thirty six 749 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 4: points a game and conference play and Baylor's average at 750 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 4: thirty five. Two quarterbacks that can sling it seven twenty two. 751 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 4: A little bit more on the Bengals. A couple of 752 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 4: things that Charlie Goldsmith told me last night on Sports 753 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 4: Talk about the running game at about the youth on 754 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 4: the defense, and. 755 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 3: About Cam Taylor. 756 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:53,399 Speaker 7: Brent. 757 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 4: Greg Schuemaker has your Tri Statefootball dot Com and high 758 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 4: school Football Tonight preview coming up at seven thirty six, 759 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 4: and Dan Klaskins your Fantasy Football Fix at seven fifty. 760 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 4: Later on in the eight o'clock hour, we'll get into 761 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 4: the Jets and the status of that team at oh 762 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 4: and seven. I've pulled out a list of their quarterbacks 763 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 4: over the years. It is rather bleak what the Jets 764 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 4: have tried at the quarterback position, I am in recent years. 765 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 6: It's been a few names, yes, all of that. 766 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 4: Maybe even time for ping pong tables and locker rooms 767 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 4: as we continue, He's Rocky on Lance's the Cincinnati Tax Resolution, 768 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 4: Power by Tope Shot and round Table Show. 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We've covered Bengals. 786 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,479 Speaker 4: This is the hour we sprayed all fields. A little 787 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,800 Speaker 4: u see football, a little bit on the high school 788 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 4: football scene, the fantasy football scene, and more. Get into 789 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 4: the Bengals in our next segment, and much more at 790 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 4: the eight o'clock hour, But without further ado, let's talk. 791 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 4: You see Bearcats number twenty one in the country, winners 792 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,720 Speaker 4: of sixth straight, one of two unbeatens in the Big Twelve, 793 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 4: and at home at Knippert for homecoming on Saturday versus 794 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,399 Speaker 4: the Baylor Bears. For more on that from bear Cat 795 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,760 Speaker 4: Journal Chad Brendle. 796 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 3: How are you? 797 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,800 Speaker 1: I'd like to request the trade. 798 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 6: What franchise would you go to? 799 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 3: Chad? 800 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so when when Nick got hired at UCLA, 801 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: I got offered the site to be the publisher of 802 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: the UCLA site, but Kelly was sick at the time, 803 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 1: and Kelsey was little and I couldn't do it. So, 804 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, give me another year or two and I'd 805 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 1: love to go back to la I lived out there 806 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,399 Speaker 1: in my twenties and it was fabulous there. 807 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,839 Speaker 3: You go, very cool? All right? 808 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 4: Uh, Since I'm gonna ask you, and we're gonna talk 809 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,720 Speaker 4: a lot about offense, let me start with defense, because 810 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 4: you're the perfect person to ask this because you deal 811 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,479 Speaker 4: with it every day. There is a there is a 812 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 4: a certain level of hand ringing within the fan base 813 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,720 Speaker 4: with this bend, but don't break three three five defense? 814 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 3: Is it? 815 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 4: Is it nitpicky or is their merit to concern for 816 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 4: the defense? 817 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 3: In your mind? 818 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: Well, as a fan, it is incredibly annoying. Let's just 819 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,800 Speaker 1: acknowledge that right out front. Like the other team, almost 820 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 1: every time they touch the ball gets into UC territory 821 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 1: to the thirty five to forty yard line, and then 822 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 1: some action happens. Then they start tightening up. They're getting, 823 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: you know, getting off the field on third and fourth down. 824 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,240 Speaker 1: Although it feels like nobody's kicked a field goal against 825 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: Cincinnati all year, everybody goes for it. I think there's 826 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: they've played seven games. It's either twenty three or twenty 827 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 1: four fourth down attempts in seven games, which feels like 828 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 1: a ton. So I think that adds into it. The 829 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: main thing for me is are they keeping teams out 830 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 1: of the end zone? Are they limiting because the point 831 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 1: of playing this defense is to keep teams from getting 832 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 1: over the top of you, beating you deep. And really, 833 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: outside of the two plays against Kansas, they haven't given 834 00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: up a ton of explosives. They have kept team games 835 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 1: in front of them, made teams work long drives down 836 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 1: the field, you know, and you're more likely at some 837 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: point in time to make a mistake when you have 838 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 1: to do that every series throughout a game. So in 839 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 1: that sense, it's working, but I get it. It drives 840 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 1: me nuts sometimes as I'm watching a game, like are 841 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 1: they ever going to get off? Like this offense is hot? 842 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: There have been two games where they you know, the 843 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 1: Iowa State game, in the UCF game, the other team 844 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 1: had the ball at the end of the half. The 845 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 1: other team had the ball at the start of the 846 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 1: second half, and they went over an hour without the 847 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 1: offense touching the ball. That is annoying, but the end 848 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 1: result is they are fifth in the Big Twelve in 849 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: points allowed, and that's the point. You're keeping the other 850 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:52,319 Speaker 1: team off the scoreboard. Does it drive you crazy to 851 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,320 Speaker 1: watch it? Is it viewer friendly? 852 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 11: No? 853 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 7: Absolutely not. 854 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,359 Speaker 1: But it's effective and with the talent that they have 855 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: right now, they're working with what they've got. 856 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 5: And Chad, I'll tell you this just from talking with 857 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,880 Speaker 5: defensive coordinators. You know for the last however many years. 858 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 5: You know, the guys they've been around a while used 859 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,839 Speaker 5: to say or they would say, you know, you used 860 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 5: to you know kind of care how many yards you 861 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 5: gave up and what your passing yard was. And they're 862 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 5: like with with modern rules in modern offense, it's do 863 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 5: they score touchdowns? 864 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 6: That that's all you care about, right, you know? 865 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,839 Speaker 5: The stats for these defensive coordator and the ones that 866 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 5: understand that and don't go crazy when oh my god, 867 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,400 Speaker 5: we gave it four and fifty yards of offense. But 868 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 5: one the ones that don't go crazy on that are 869 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:40,879 Speaker 5: the ones that are going to stick around for a while. 870 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 1: And this is why this defense was designed. What people 871 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,839 Speaker 1: forget or don't really consider. This defense was designed by 872 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: Matt Campbell and his staff at Iowa State that included 873 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 1: Tyson Bite. In a period of time where Big twelve, 874 00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 1: almost every score was fifty six to three, you know, 875 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 1: and they had to come up. They came up with 876 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 1: something that they felt like would put an umbrella on 877 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 1: the other team's offense and limit the explosive plays, limit 878 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 1: the fifty sixty seventy yard touchdowns. And that's what's happened 879 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 1: in Iowa State has been the best defense in this 880 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 1: conference year over year for the better part of a 881 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,360 Speaker 1: decade playing this defense because they don't let you put 882 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 1: points on the board. Cincinnati has played seven games. The 883 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 1: opponent has scored twenty or less in five of those 884 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,719 Speaker 1: seven games. It's working. Now. You're playing better offenses coming 885 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 1: up down the stretch, so we'll see, But so far 886 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,839 Speaker 1: it's working all right. 887 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 3: On the offensive side. 888 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,760 Speaker 4: They have so many different weapons, and I was struck 889 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 4: by something Scott said and his coaches show this week 890 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,720 Speaker 4: that they don't with all the weapons, they don't feel 891 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 4: the need to have to feed somebody to keep them happy. 892 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 4: That a Cyrus Allen can go from one catch for 893 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 4: I think minus three yards against UCF to three touchdowns 894 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 4: last week, and there's just that that general shared success 895 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 4: of those weapons on that offense. 896 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean Rocky can probably speak to this 897 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 1: a lot better than me. When you go into a 898 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 1: team meeting and you're scouting the next opponent, the number 899 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 1: one thing is the previous game, right. Cyrus Allen was 900 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,719 Speaker 1: teams at the beginning of the year. Coming into the year, 901 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,959 Speaker 1: they bracketed Joe Royer because Joe Royer was the big 902 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,840 Speaker 1: name returning guy. They bracketed him, tried to take him away, 903 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 1: and then other guys started having success, mainly Cyrus Allen. 904 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 1: So then team started saying, well, right, We're gonna roll 905 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 1: coverage to Cireus Allen now. Jeff Caldwell's open now, Noah 906 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,799 Speaker 1: Jennings is open now, Caleb good is open now, Joe 907 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 1: Royer is back open again. And that's one of the 908 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 1: great parts about Sorsby is he does a really and 909 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 1: more importantly, maybe the offensive line because Sorsby is having 910 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 1: time back there to read the defense. I mean, you 911 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 1: go back to that third and sixteen that really kind 912 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 1: of put things on ice against Oklahoma States. Or he 913 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,840 Speaker 1: said that was his third read, Jeff Caldwell over the 914 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 1: middle for six for thirty eight yards in a first down. 915 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 1: He doesn't get to a third read if he doesn't 916 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 1: have the time that the offensive line is giving him. 917 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 1: So it's a it's a multi faceted deal. And I 918 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 1: mean the twenty twenty one guys aren't going to be 919 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 1: happy with me, and we'll see how they finish, But 920 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 1: right now, I think this is the best offense I've 921 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 1: seen at U seasons two thousand and nine. 922 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,879 Speaker 3: Wow. Wow, big statement, Chad. 923 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 5: Look, obviously this time of year, as you're getting into November, 924 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,839 Speaker 5: health is a big part of this thing. You look 925 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:46,360 Speaker 5: at the UC injury report, No injuries. They you know, 926 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,759 Speaker 5: Corleone is back that had no real devastating injuries. 927 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,880 Speaker 6: How big of a factors I'm moving forward. 928 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 1: It's a major factor. And it's a huge testament to 929 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 1: Nico palace Ati, the strengthen conditioning coach, to Aaron Henton, 930 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 1: who I've never been around someone better at their job 931 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,800 Speaker 1: than Aaron Himler is at his He's phenomenal. And also 932 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 1: there's a reason you spend one hundred and fifty million 933 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 1: dollars on that training facility because those guys get to 934 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 1: get in there on Sunday and Monday and Tuesday and 935 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 1: they're in the recovery tubs, and they're they're in the 936 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 1: cryo chambers, and they're doing all the different things that 937 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,160 Speaker 1: help guys rest and recover. So you're not playing on 938 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,719 Speaker 1: lingering injuries as much as maybe you have been in 939 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,359 Speaker 1: the past. I think it's been a huge factor, all 940 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 1: three of those things working in Unison to have gotten 941 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 1: them to this point. They're seven games in knock on Wood. 942 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,400 Speaker 1: They haven't really dealt with it. A Ton. 943 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 4: Baylor's offense productive, Baylor's quarterback dangerous. Tell Bearcat fans what 944 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,840 Speaker 4: they need to know about that. Baylor offensive attack. 945 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 1: Well, if you didn't like the defense giving up a 946 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 1: bunch of yards, might want to watch something else Saturday 947 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:07,280 Speaker 1: at four, because Baylor's going to get a lot of yards. 948 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:12,239 Speaker 1: But guess what, when you dig into the numbers, they 949 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 1: are not good scoring touchdowns in the red zone. And 950 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 1: that has been one of the strengths of Cincinnati's defense. 951 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 1: So keep an eye on that. If they don't, let 952 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:26,800 Speaker 1: you know, they can keep Bailor from doing what Kansas 953 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 1: did and hitting a couple of those splash touchdowns. If 954 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,920 Speaker 1: they can make them work all the way down the 955 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 1: field and get into the red zone and score, that's 956 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 1: been a strength of Cincinnatis. It's been a weakness of Bailors. 957 00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 1: It also means the Baylor's going to chew up a 958 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,760 Speaker 1: crap ton of yards between the twenties and you're probably 959 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,279 Speaker 1: gonna want to pull your hair out. But that's where 960 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 1: Cincinnati can win this game. They kick a lot of 961 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,919 Speaker 1: threes and leave points on the board when they do 962 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:59,760 Speaker 1: get into the red zone because obviously the field shrinks 963 00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,400 Speaker 1: and now you've got eight guys in coverage and people 964 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 1: aren't running into open spaces, and you can make them 965 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 1: earn it a little bit more in the red zone 966 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,360 Speaker 1: and Sawyer Robertson's not standing back there just picking you apart. 967 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 1: So that's going to be the interesting part for me. 968 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,960 Speaker 1: But they've got a great quarterback, they've got really good 969 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:22,799 Speaker 1: wide receivers, and the running game is okay. But they 970 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 1: run so many plays that they're still averaging one hundred 971 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,799 Speaker 1: and forty yards a game on the ground, So you 972 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 1: can't forget about the run game. But they want to pass, 973 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,879 Speaker 1: make no mistake. They want Robertson to stand back there 974 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 1: and throw the ball all day long. You just have 975 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:41,800 Speaker 1: to make sure it's for ten fifteen yards, not forty fifty. 976 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,759 Speaker 4: Last question, it's got to be about hoops. And as 977 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 4: much as I learned my license last year of not 978 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 4: putting much stock in exhibition games, after what they did do, 979 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,640 Speaker 4: Ohiowa State, give me a takeaway, Just something that jumped 980 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 4: out at you. 981 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,440 Speaker 3: In the win over Michigan last week, I was. 982 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,280 Speaker 1: Really impressed with there's two trueman and a redshair freshman. 983 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 1: I was really impressed with how they handled the atmosphere. Shawnabajev, 984 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,839 Speaker 1: keish On Tillery, Tyler McKinley. I thought all three looked 985 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 1: like they belonged the other big thing for me, and 986 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 1: those three were a part of it. There were moments 987 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 1: that different guys took over and had their little window. 988 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 1: They had their period. It was Boba Miller early and 989 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 1: Shaunabiev right before halftime, and Dayde Thomas towards the end, 990 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 1: and Kurt Curse. They hit a couple of big shots. 991 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 1: We talked at nauseum last year about that team just 992 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,200 Speaker 1: failed to have others step up. Felt like every game 993 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 1: there was one guy that was playing well, one guy 994 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 1: was playing okay, and then like seven guys that couldn't 995 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,840 Speaker 1: Tyler Shoe and Chew Gum at the same time. This 996 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,560 Speaker 1: team needs three for I mean, there were six guys 997 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,439 Speaker 1: and double figures against you know, a Michigan team that's 998 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 1: gonna be really good. Nobody's good at defense right now. 999 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,400 Speaker 1: They're not where they need to be yet. But I 1000 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 1: thought a lot better about the number of guys that 1001 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,480 Speaker 1: have the ability to step up and have those four 1002 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,680 Speaker 1: or five minute stretches where they're playing really well. 1003 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,320 Speaker 4: All right, tell everybody about Bearcat journal dot com. Keagan 1004 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 4: Nickolson been kicking butt this week, and while I'm thinking 1005 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,960 Speaker 4: of it, congratulations on the the five hundredth edition of 1006 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 4: the Bearcat Journal podcast last night. 1007 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:18,560 Speaker 3: Nice. 1008 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,440 Speaker 1: That's a lot of Dave Simone and I talking like 1009 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 1: I is. MA. Thank you, thank you for all the 1010 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,799 Speaker 1: people that have listened. But my god, what are you 1011 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:34,480 Speaker 1: doing with your life? Kegan? I missed being in my 1012 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,839 Speaker 1: early twenties. Lance, I sent Keegan to Kansas City. So 1013 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,440 Speaker 1: he's driving sending to Kansas City for Basketball Media Days. 1014 00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 1: He left Basketball Media Days today when to Sayetville, Arkansas. 1015 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,920 Speaker 1: He'll be there for the UC Arkansas exhibition tomorrow night 1016 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:53,239 Speaker 1: and then he's got roughly sixteen hours to make the 1017 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,840 Speaker 1: ten hour drive back to Cincinnati. He said his goal 1018 00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,960 Speaker 1: is to be in his seat at four o'clock for homecoming. 1019 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:07,600 Speaker 4: Holy cow man again, no doubt about that, no doubt 1020 00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 4: he is. Chad Brendel, Bearcat Journal, Bearcat Journal dot Com. Yes, 1021 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:13,040 Speaker 4: finish your thought up. 1022 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 1: Sorry, go and support Keagan. He's working his butt off, 1023 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:19,240 Speaker 1: no doubt, no doubt. 1024 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:20,840 Speaker 3: Thank you, Sarah. We'll talk next week. 1025 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 7: Thanks gentlemen, appreciate it. 1026 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:28,160 Speaker 4: Chack Brendel, Bearcat Journal, Bearcat Journal dot Com. Up next, 1027 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,600 Speaker 4: a little bit of what Charlie Goldsmith told me last 1028 00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,719 Speaker 4: night on Sports Talk about this Bengals run game, the 1029 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,000 Speaker 4: decision to go with you from the defensive side of things, 1030 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,560 Speaker 4: and thoughts on what has happened to Cam Taylor Britt. 1031 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 4: That is all ahead, He's Rocky, I'm Lance. It's Long 1032 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,280 Speaker 4: Next in Richwood for the Round Table Show seven hundred 1033 00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:55,600 Speaker 4: WLWE seven hundred wl w's Cincinnati Tax Resolution powered by 1034 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,200 Speaker 4: TOPEESHOWD and Roundtable Show. We're at longnexts in Richwood, presented 1035 00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 4: each in every week by Postman Law. Brought to you in 1036 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,759 Speaker 4: part by ever Dry Waterproofing. It's not dry till it's 1037 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,560 Speaker 4: ever Dry if you missed it earlier. Programming note for 1038 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 4: next week. We are moving on the road to the 1039 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:15,320 Speaker 4: Hebrew location starting next week, So at Hebron Long next 1040 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 4: next week and then there throughout the month of November. 1041 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,360 Speaker 4: Make plans to stop by, hang out and spend some 1042 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,560 Speaker 4: time with us. If you're here tonight, if you have 1043 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 4: not received a ticket, ask your server for a ticket, 1044 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 4: put your name on the back of it, give it 1045 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,239 Speaker 4: back to her, and at eight o'clock we're going to 1046 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 4: do a drawing for this Bengal print behind me from 1047 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,920 Speaker 4: Sean Volker, the Bengal Tiger print. You got to be 1048 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 4: here to win when we draw at eight servers have 1049 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:44,320 Speaker 4: tickets drawing coming up in t minus thirty seven minutes 1050 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:48,960 Speaker 4: from mark. Let's get into a couple of things that 1051 00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,360 Speaker 4: Charlie Goldsmith told me last night for Charlie's Chalkboard on 1052 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 4: SportsTalk that caught my ear, including the run game, which 1053 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:59,319 Speaker 4: has been much discussed and lacking up until Thursday night. 1054 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:04,759 Speaker 4: Did they unlock something they can replicate going forward or 1055 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:09,120 Speaker 4: was it more a matchup based results on a really 1056 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,040 Speaker 4: bad Steeler defense It appeared on Thursday. 1057 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,560 Speaker 3: Here's what Charlie said about the run game. 1058 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 12: Well, as long as Chase Brown has a quarterback who 1059 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,120 Speaker 12: can functionally run the offense and make defenses, you know, 1060 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:25,799 Speaker 12: play certain coverages and do this and that schematically, then yeah, 1061 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 12: I think Chase Brown is a guy who's more than 1062 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,240 Speaker 12: talented enough to break a lot of tackles, to break 1063 00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,560 Speaker 12: off one or two big runs a game. It's those 1064 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:36,239 Speaker 12: explosive that really rack up the average, and that's just 1065 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,640 Speaker 12: who Chase is when it's any sort of functional offense. 1066 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,719 Speaker 12: I think it wasn't even anything schematic. I just think 1067 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,800 Speaker 12: by having Flaco, Chase Brown gets to be insult again. 1068 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 4: Charlie Goldsmith, and he used the term functional offense twice, 1069 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,839 Speaker 4: which clearly is in relation to it was not a 1070 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,759 Speaker 4: functional offense with Jake Browning and with the presence of 1071 00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:00,719 Speaker 4: Joe Flacco. It commands some attention re spec from a 1072 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,759 Speaker 4: defense that you've got somebody who it just opens up 1073 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,880 Speaker 4: the playbook to run the ball and to throw the 1074 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,200 Speaker 4: ball there. There was no threat offered by Jake Browning. 1075 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,879 Speaker 5: Well, look, let's be clear that the best thing that's 1076 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,080 Speaker 5: gonna help this run game is Jamar Chase getting fifteen 1077 00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,919 Speaker 5: sixteen catches a game, yep, because teams are not gonna 1078 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,080 Speaker 5: allow that to happen. We can, they absolutely can't. So 1079 00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,680 Speaker 5: when more attention goes there, that's gonna open up some 1080 00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:28,880 Speaker 5: things for the run. I don't think you disagree. This 1081 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,000 Speaker 5: is not a line that's built to run the football. 1082 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,360 Speaker 5: This is a line that's built to pass protect for 1083 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,280 Speaker 5: Joe Burrow to put the ball in the air fifty 1084 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,040 Speaker 5: times a game. Right And now we're in a different situation. 1085 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,000 Speaker 5: So that's always been my point. It's hard to ask 1086 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,239 Speaker 5: them to do something to have an identity that's not them. 1087 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,799 Speaker 5: With that said, you know, you've got to have some 1088 00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,560 Speaker 5: semblance of balance, of course, but yeah, if you keep 1089 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,959 Speaker 5: feeding that ball to Jamar Chase in the past game 1090 00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,359 Speaker 5: that they have no choice but to apply some resources 1091 00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,480 Speaker 5: to try to mitigate that, that's gonna open up the 1092 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:00,839 Speaker 5: ring game. 1093 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,160 Speaker 4: Charlie wrote a great piece as well about how this 1094 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,080 Speaker 4: defense has gone young, and I asked him last night, 1095 00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 4: I said, when you make a decision to go young 1096 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,840 Speaker 4: on that side of the ball, it feels more like 1097 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,719 Speaker 4: something we talked about this last week last Thursday when 1098 00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:17,359 Speaker 4: we were together, feels like something more a rebuilding team 1099 00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,239 Speaker 4: would do a commitment to youth and we'll take our 1100 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,200 Speaker 4: bumps and bruises and lumps and they're going to get 1101 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 4: better more so than a team in contention that maybe 1102 00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,680 Speaker 4: can't afford some of the mistakes that might come with youth. 1103 00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:29,520 Speaker 4: And I asked him, I said, is the decision to 1104 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 4: go young on defense? Is that more indicative of the 1105 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,920 Speaker 4: youth they have or is it more of a statement 1106 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,359 Speaker 4: about the veterans who aren't delivering for this team? 1107 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:37,239 Speaker 3: Here's Charlie. 1108 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,120 Speaker 12: Yeah, if they wanted to, they could be starting Logan Wilson, 1109 00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,160 Speaker 12: Orn Burke's you know, Cam Taylor Britt the fourth year veteran. 1110 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,839 Speaker 12: They could be starting all of these older players, some 1111 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:47,799 Speaker 12: of the veterans, you know, you look at Kim, you 1112 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,280 Speaker 12: look at Geno Stone. I think Logan Wilson has been fined, 1113 00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,360 Speaker 12: but put them in this group as well. Just have regress. 1114 00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,239 Speaker 12: And that's concerning for a defense that was counting on 1115 00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:01,000 Speaker 12: some semblance of veteran president to lead an otherwise young 1116 00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,480 Speaker 12: unit through the highs and the lows, because you know 1117 00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:08,040 Speaker 12: Barret Carter, Demetrius Knight, Josh Newton, Les Murphy, Samar Stewart, 1118 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,920 Speaker 12: who by the way, played a very poor game against 1119 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,200 Speaker 12: the Steeler that hasn't been talked much. 1120 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:14,279 Speaker 3: About, but he kind of. 1121 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:19,520 Speaker 12: Quietly got his role reduced significantly, not quite benched, but 1122 00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,640 Speaker 12: that happened with Samorrow over the course of the game. 1123 00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:22,879 Speaker 1: Like that's life. 1124 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,279 Speaker 12: When you're playing that many young players, it's about what 1125 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,800 Speaker 12: you expect. So there should be a lot of attention 1126 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,440 Speaker 12: on man, these veterans are letting the defense down significantly 1127 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,160 Speaker 12: because those are the guys you thought you'd be. 1128 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:33,799 Speaker 6: Able to count on. 1129 00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 3: That's a powerful last statement. 1130 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,839 Speaker 4: I think it is worth spending some time on because 1131 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,640 Speaker 4: we've talked about it. You have to, especially when you're 1132 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 4: spending so much on your Big Three, you have to 1133 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,799 Speaker 4: hit on your draft, and they're just guys on that 1134 00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,040 Speaker 4: side of the ball, top one hundred draft picks who 1135 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,239 Speaker 4: just haven't been what the Bengals have needed them to be. 1136 00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,759 Speaker 6: You could argue that's the single biggest problem with this Yes, 1137 00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,600 Speaker 6: in this organization, Yes, last five years. 1138 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:01,840 Speaker 3: Or beyond forever. 1139 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,400 Speaker 5: Yes, Yeah, it's it's the inability to nail some of 1140 00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,000 Speaker 5: those draft picks to way some of the teams that 1141 00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,120 Speaker 5: are perennially in the court and in the Super Bowl 1142 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,280 Speaker 5: conversation that they draft, well, they develop, they keep those guys. 1143 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:18,600 Speaker 5: But to me, the simple answer for why they're going 1144 00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:23,960 Speaker 5: younger on defense is one where speed, speed absolutely kills 1145 00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,760 Speaker 5: you have to have it out there, especially in today's NFL. 1146 00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,680 Speaker 5: It's a space game, and they don't think that the 1147 00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:33,440 Speaker 5: veteran guys Logan Wilson, you've mentioned many times Lance right 1148 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:34,320 Speaker 5: about how he just kind. 1149 00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:35,120 Speaker 6: Of lumbers around. 1150 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:35,560 Speaker 3: Yep. 1151 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,400 Speaker 6: It's I think that's the risk Rewards are saying, Okay, 1152 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,160 Speaker 6: we're gonna give up a little bit of knowledge here, 1153 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:46,840 Speaker 6: but we've got guys that are flying around. Speed creates chaos, right, 1154 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,760 Speaker 6: It creates havoc. Plays and interceptions and fumbles and and 1155 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,240 Speaker 6: and the big plays. That kind of thing. That's why 1156 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:54,080 Speaker 6: those guys are out there. 1157 00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,120 Speaker 4: Cam Tayler Britt is a guy they spent a second 1158 00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,520 Speaker 4: round pick on. It look like he might be emerging 1159 00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:02,080 Speaker 4: into a core piece. Yesterday he was reduced to special 1160 00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,600 Speaker 4: teams work in practice. I asked Charlie what he sees 1161 00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:07,760 Speaker 4: in the fall off of Cam Taylor Britt. 1162 00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,600 Speaker 12: It's just a massive organizational loss. I don't expect the 1163 00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,560 Speaker 12: Bengals to, you know, be in the divisional round this year. 1164 00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,520 Speaker 12: Maybe they do it for a comes back, but these 1165 00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:20,440 Speaker 12: are the types of developments that cost you divisional AFC 1166 00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,440 Speaker 12: championship games. When you have a guy who's supposed to 1167 00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,240 Speaker 12: be a corner giving you a matchup advantage against Josh 1168 00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:29,040 Speaker 12: Allen and it turns out doesn't even have a place 1169 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,840 Speaker 12: on the field, it reminds me of a pitcher who 1170 00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,840 Speaker 12: just can't find the strike zone and the way that 1171 00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,280 Speaker 12: that leads to an individual. I don't want to use 1172 00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,919 Speaker 12: the word spiring, but snowballing would be the word I'm 1173 00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:44,160 Speaker 12: going for, because then you start trying to do so 1174 00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,160 Speaker 12: much and Camp it's just been such a hyper active 1175 00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,600 Speaker 12: player as opposed to just locking in on the fundamentals, 1176 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:54,680 Speaker 12: the detail he's trying to seuse another baseball analogy. You know, 1177 00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:56,920 Speaker 12: hit an eight run homer when he steps up to 1178 00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,400 Speaker 12: the plate, and then when he's over ten, he's trying 1179 00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,400 Speaker 12: to hit a sixteen run home and he keeps digging 1180 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,200 Speaker 12: and digging and digging that hole. And you know now 1181 00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,120 Speaker 12: today he's working on special teams. I mean, this is 1182 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,480 Speaker 12: seemingly how it's going to be with him going forward. 1183 00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,440 Speaker 3: What a fall for camp Taylor brand. It's amazing. 1184 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,800 Speaker 6: I mean early in his career, I mean there. 1185 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,000 Speaker 4: Was talking, oh, he'll get in a big extension and 1186 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,280 Speaker 4: this is a breakout year to the Pro Bowl and 1187 00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:24,600 Speaker 4: he's a. 1188 00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:25,240 Speaker 3: Second round pick. 1189 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,520 Speaker 4: Second round pick. Yeah, unbelievable. All right, we've reached the 1190 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,600 Speaker 4: bottom of the are perfectly timed. How about some high 1191 00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,000 Speaker 4: school football. We've got four we'll put on the docket 1192 00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,760 Speaker 4: for Greg Shoemaker of high school football tonight after we 1193 00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,960 Speaker 4: check news since ani tax resolution powered by Toe Sheldon 1194 00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,600 Speaker 4: Roundtable Show Long Necks in Richwood presented by Postman Law 1195 00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:47,640 Speaker 4: seven hundred WLW seven thirty six seven hundred WLW were 1196 00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:51,120 Speaker 4: at the Long Necks in Richwood. Reminder next week we're 1197 00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,440 Speaker 4: headed to Hebrew and then we'll be at the Hebrew 1198 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:57,240 Speaker 4: location for November. And another reminder, twenty four minutes until 1199 00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,120 Speaker 4: our drawing. If you're in the house and don't have 1200 00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,320 Speaker 4: a ticket as your serving for a ticket to sign 1201 01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:02,760 Speaker 4: the back of it, you got to be here for 1202 01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:03,120 Speaker 4: the drawing. 1203 01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:03,400 Speaker 7: At eight. 1204 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,440 Speaker 4: You're going to pick up a very cool Bengals print. 1205 01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:10,320 Speaker 4: We'll draw that again in twenty four minutes. He's rocky. 1206 01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:12,480 Speaker 4: I'm Lance. Let's talk some high school football. You are 1207 01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:14,959 Speaker 4: our next guest on Friday Nights with the award winning 1208 01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:18,160 Speaker 4: high School Football Tonight's Show on ESPN fifteen thirty and 1209 01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:22,520 Speaker 4: Fox Sports thirteen sixty. I read hum at Tri statefootball 1210 01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:26,360 Speaker 4: dot Com. Always a pleasure to welcome in. Greg Shoemaker, 1211 01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:27,680 Speaker 4: how are you. 1212 01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:30,800 Speaker 9: I'm doing good, guys. 1213 01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:31,800 Speaker 1: What a great weekend. 1214 01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:35,640 Speaker 9: Week ten of the regular season in Ohio. First weekend 1215 01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,280 Speaker 9: in the playoffs in Indiana this weekend, two weeks left 1216 01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:42,840 Speaker 9: in the regular season. In Kentucky. It's it's go time 1217 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:46,120 Speaker 9: right now for sure for a lot of teams. 1218 01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:46,040 Speaker 3: No doubt about it. 1219 01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,720 Speaker 4: Let's get into the first of four games. Let's start 1220 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:52,919 Speaker 4: with Winton Woods at Lebanon playoff positioning on the line, 1221 01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,440 Speaker 4: and Winton Woods got a little bit of a boost 1222 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,480 Speaker 4: of the running game last week as well. 1223 01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,320 Speaker 9: Yeah, they really did. So the cool thing about this 1224 01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,760 Speaker 9: game is the winner has put themselves well. Actually, if 1225 01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:08,480 Speaker 9: Lebanon wins this game, they will get a first round 1226 01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:13,240 Speaker 9: by in Division one Region two. If went Woods wins, 1227 01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,040 Speaker 9: they will get a first round by in Division one 1228 01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:20,840 Speaker 9: Region four, but that's only if Mohler loses. So winn 1229 01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:24,240 Speaker 9: Woods is already secured to top eight spot in a 1230 01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:27,360 Speaker 9: home game in the playoffs. If Lebanon loses, they could 1231 01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:29,640 Speaker 9: still finish in the top four spot, but they could 1232 01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,640 Speaker 9: also finish as low as number ten in Region two 1233 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:37,280 Speaker 9: in the rankings. So a lot on the line here 1234 01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,360 Speaker 9: that said, Like you were talking about, Lance, went Woods 1235 01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,920 Speaker 9: got his running game a boost last week when Isaiah 1236 01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,880 Speaker 9: Garrett came back for the first time this season. The 1237 01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,600 Speaker 9: junior ram for eighty four yards and a touchdown on 1238 01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:52,960 Speaker 9: fifteen carries. Last season to in the year, he ran 1239 01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:55,800 Speaker 9: four straight games of one hundred and ten yards or 1240 01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,360 Speaker 9: more and five times in the last six contests he 1241 01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,600 Speaker 9: did the same thing. And then he been off all 1242 01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:04,120 Speaker 9: this season and it's went in their their their quarterback 1243 01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,880 Speaker 9: Bryce Seawan browns led them and rushing with three hundred 1244 01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,880 Speaker 9: and ninety six yards this season, so to get him back. 1245 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,560 Speaker 9: And this time of year when as you're looking at 1246 01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,760 Speaker 9: it tonight, the weather's changing and it's football weather, and 1247 01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,120 Speaker 9: you better be able to run the football in the 1248 01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:23,840 Speaker 9: end of November and into October. That said, Lebanon quarterback 1249 01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,600 Speaker 9: Luke Saylor has thrown for nineteen touchdowns and over his 1250 01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,640 Speaker 9: last five starts, he's got three receivers with at least 1251 01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,720 Speaker 9: six touchdown catches on the year. And if Lebanon wants 1252 01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:35,600 Speaker 9: to stay in this game at home, they're gonna have 1253 01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:39,600 Speaker 9: to get some unconventional, unconventional points and they've done that 1254 01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,280 Speaker 9: this year with five pick six is on their eleven 1255 01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,040 Speaker 9: interceptions for the season. 1256 01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:50,080 Speaker 5: All right, Greg West versus East in Lakota, how about this? 1257 01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:54,960 Speaker 5: And how fitting Tom Bolden going for his career win 1258 01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,360 Speaker 5: two hundred in a rivalry game. 1259 01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,160 Speaker 6: This should be a great one. 1260 01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:02,560 Speaker 9: Yeah, And I just want to I want to give 1261 01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:05,200 Speaker 9: Tom Bolden a bit of love here. Like you said, 1262 01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,720 Speaker 9: Rockie's going for his two houndred career win. He has 1263 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,880 Speaker 9: one ninety nine and thirty seven in his nineteen seasons 1264 01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:15,160 Speaker 9: as a head coach, and by the way, Rock one 1265 01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:18,320 Speaker 9: of the third of those losses order your saying nux bombers, 1266 01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:25,000 Speaker 9: which is so so Bolden's fifteen and oh all the 1267 01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:28,320 Speaker 9: time versus Lakota East, including a six and oh mark 1268 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,400 Speaker 9: against UH uh East as the Firebirds head coach, and 1269 01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:36,320 Speaker 9: uh even even so, once you got to UH West 1270 01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:40,240 Speaker 9: this this past six years ago, they'd have been great. 1271 01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:45,800 Speaker 9: Uh in October under Bolden having won twenty consecutive football 1272 01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,000 Speaker 9: games dating all the way back to twenty twenty and 1273 01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,840 Speaker 9: again a loss in the regional championship to Saint Xavier. 1274 01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:55,480 Speaker 9: But yeah, I mean he's been fantastic and I hope 1275 01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:57,720 Speaker 9: he gets that wins and Mara it'd be a great 1276 01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,680 Speaker 9: thing for for in that rivalry game like that. So 1277 01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:04,040 Speaker 9: both teams are in the playoffs. Neither one can get 1278 01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:08,120 Speaker 9: a first round by but they I'm for sure that 1279 01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:13,240 Speaker 9: West has a home game in Week two of the tournaments. 1280 01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:16,520 Speaker 9: So now we've been talking about the weather. West has 1281 01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,080 Speaker 9: only had five hundred and fifty five yards rushing in 1282 01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:22,280 Speaker 9: the first seven games of the year. They have since 1283 01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:24,200 Speaker 9: run for four hundred and forty five in the last 1284 01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:29,200 Speaker 9: two games, So it's very interesting. And the funny part 1285 01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,800 Speaker 9: about this is East has had a bad time against 1286 01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:35,080 Speaker 9: teams that can run the football with bigger lines. They're 1287 01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,919 Speaker 9: allowing two hundred and five yards of game rushing, five 1288 01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,080 Speaker 9: point six yards of carry, and have given up twenty 1289 01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:42,720 Speaker 9: one touchdowns on the ground. So they have to do 1290 01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:44,280 Speaker 9: a good job at trying to stop the run in 1291 01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,360 Speaker 9: this one if they want to stay in this game. 1292 01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:50,439 Speaker 9: That said, their secondary has been outstanding with ten interceptions 1293 01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:53,560 Speaker 9: this year, returning four of them for pick six. Is 1294 01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:57,200 Speaker 9: and not only that, in their ten interceptions, they've massed 1295 01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,680 Speaker 9: three hundred and fifty six yards of returning yard, So 1296 01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,840 Speaker 9: you know, over a nine game period, that's like fifty 1297 01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:07,160 Speaker 9: sixty yards a game just in return yards. So I mean, 1298 01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:11,360 Speaker 9: they're they're amazing there. The one thing that what East 1299 01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,080 Speaker 9: will have to do to stay in this ballgame is 1300 01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:18,160 Speaker 9: run the football themselves and Rter Hooks, their senior running back. 1301 01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:21,080 Speaker 9: He's he's their all time leading rusher at East and 1302 01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:24,320 Speaker 9: he's having a great senior years. He's run for fourteen 1303 01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,600 Speaker 9: hundred yards, he's everage and one hundred and sixty yards 1304 01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,320 Speaker 9: rushing per game, two hundred and thirty of all purpose 1305 01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,760 Speaker 9: yards per game, and on defense he has twenty four tackles, 1306 01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:36,280 Speaker 9: five pass breakups, two picks, sixes, and is tied for 1307 01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:40,160 Speaker 9: the league lead with four interceptions. So I'm telling you 1308 01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,040 Speaker 9: right now, if he's he he may be one of 1309 01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:46,640 Speaker 9: our candidates for Ohio Mister Football coming out of Southwest Ohio, 1310 01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:50,560 Speaker 9: especially if they win this game. So it's it's that's 1311 01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,280 Speaker 9: an interesting game. And the only other dichotomy of this 1312 01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:56,720 Speaker 9: game that I really feel pretty cool about is Isla 1313 01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:00,560 Speaker 9: Cody East. They're they're only giving up for Lakona West 1314 01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:03,120 Speaker 9: has only given up eighty three yards a game passing 1315 01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:06,360 Speaker 9: and uh uh, just four touchdown passes on the year. 1316 01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:08,800 Speaker 9: So again, in a game that needs to run, this 1317 01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:10,080 Speaker 9: could be it for sure. 1318 01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:11,320 Speaker 3: All right. 1319 01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:15,960 Speaker 4: Speaking of playoff implications, Fairfield and Oak Kills winner in 1320 01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:19,520 Speaker 4: and loser has to hope. 1321 01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:20,160 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1322 01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:23,960 Speaker 9: Absolutely, And we're gonna have Fairfield coach Justin Roaden on 1323 01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:27,800 Speaker 9: in the pregame show tomorrow on High School Football tonight, 1324 01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:31,760 Speaker 9: and he was the head coach at Oak Hill's the 1325 01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,400 Speaker 9: previous five years, and we've had nothing but great things 1326 01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:37,920 Speaker 9: to say about these kids at Oak Hills and and 1327 01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,360 Speaker 9: their banks out Fairfield is. And I think both these teams, 1328 01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:43,200 Speaker 9: like both coaches feel like if we can get into 1329 01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:45,400 Speaker 9: the playoffs, an extra week of play a play is 1330 01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:47,479 Speaker 9: going to help us in miss Lee and it'll be 1331 01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:52,000 Speaker 9: like a good thing. And uh, they need that extra 1332 01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:55,560 Speaker 9: that week of practice and it's you know, it's a 1333 01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,000 Speaker 9: win for both teams. Who was sure everyone gets. 1334 01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,960 Speaker 1: In and uh okay. 1335 01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:03,960 Speaker 9: Senior wide receiver Aaron McFarlane who came from Taylor. He 1336 01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:07,680 Speaker 9: has one hundred and ninety career receptions, more than thirty 1337 01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:11,200 Speaker 9: three hundred yards receiving in his career. That puts him 1338 01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,400 Speaker 9: only twenty six players in Ohio have had two hundred 1339 01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:15,720 Speaker 9: receptions in their career and he's only one of only 1340 01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:18,200 Speaker 9: nineteen players in the state of Ohio with thirty three 1341 01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:22,080 Speaker 9: hundred yards in his career receiving. So great career for him, 1342 01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,560 Speaker 9: look for him. I hope he gets to continue on 1343 01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:27,800 Speaker 9: that path to greatness. And then freshman running back at 1344 01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:30,800 Speaker 9: Fairfield Coorious Booker. He spit in the GMC with five 1345 01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:34,840 Speaker 9: hundred and seventy one yards rushing. Very very impressive to 1346 01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:38,040 Speaker 9: be a freshman and have that kind of stats in 1347 01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:38,680 Speaker 9: the GMC. 1348 01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,840 Speaker 5: All right, Greg williams Berg who is undefeated at Bethel Tate. 1349 01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:45,720 Speaker 5: And I don't know if I could love this anymore. 1350 01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:49,760 Speaker 5: Bethel Tate started the year zero to five, have rattled 1351 01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:52,280 Speaker 5: off four straight and now have a chance to get 1352 01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:55,880 Speaker 5: in the I guess the SBAAC national title. 1353 01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:00,560 Speaker 9: Yes, yeah, they're close, and Rocky, you hit everything on 1354 01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:04,440 Speaker 9: the right here. Williamsburg has never finished a regular season 1355 01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:07,480 Speaker 9: ten and oh. The program went twenty six oh and 1356 01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,840 Speaker 9: one from nineteen seventy one to nineteen seventy three. They 1357 01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:13,520 Speaker 9: only played nine games in the regular season that year, so. 1358 01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,559 Speaker 10: It's a very very cool thing. 1359 01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:20,360 Speaker 9: If they could get there. However, two years ago, Williamsburg 1360 01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:22,639 Speaker 9: was sitting at eight and oh and in this same game, 1361 01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:26,200 Speaker 9: Bethel Tate beat them twenty two to twenty at Bethel Tate. 1362 01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:31,280 Speaker 9: And the ironic thing about this is Williamsburg's senior wide 1363 01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:35,400 Speaker 9: receiver Troy Harris was the star for Bethel Tate in 1364 01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:38,880 Speaker 9: that game with six receptions for one hundred and thirteen yards, 1365 01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:42,880 Speaker 9: a touchdown, eight solo tackles in an interception. Last year, 1366 01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:48,559 Speaker 9: he transferred to Williamsburg, where to get avenged the loss. 1367 01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:50,519 Speaker 9: He ran for one hundred and thirteen yards on six 1368 01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,400 Speaker 9: carries on ten carries, had an eighty five yard kickoff 1369 01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:57,160 Speaker 9: retree for a touchdown and an interceptions as Wildcats beat 1370 01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:00,920 Speaker 9: Bethel Tate last year. So if Williamsburg who is this game, 1371 01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,719 Speaker 9: they might have to call this and here says another 1372 01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:05,759 Speaker 9: good game, they might have to call this the Harris 1373 01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:09,040 Speaker 9: Cup by me every year. This is something else and 1374 01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,400 Speaker 9: he could be three in this game over the next 1375 01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:14,120 Speaker 9: three years. But it's a good, fun small school game 1376 01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:17,680 Speaker 9: to follow. Both great implications and both both teams had 1377 01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:20,000 Speaker 9: a great run this year for sure. 1378 01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:25,360 Speaker 4: All Right, lay out things listeners and readers can't expect 1379 01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:28,120 Speaker 4: as we move into the weekend and look forward to 1380 01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:30,519 Speaker 4: the High School Football Tonight show Tomorrow night. 1381 01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:34,200 Speaker 9: Yeah, high School Football Tonight is on Fox Sports thirteen 1382 01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:37,920 Speaker 9: sixty in ESPN fifteen thirty tomorrow from six to eight pm. 1383 01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:41,200 Speaker 9: No Saint Xavier games this Friday or next Friday, so 1384 01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:44,439 Speaker 9: both weeks will be on from sixty eight this week 1385 01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:47,200 Speaker 9: on boat channels. Next week just on Fox thirteen to sixty. 1386 01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,200 Speaker 9: Like I said, we'll have justin roadan head coach of 1387 01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:54,639 Speaker 9: Okhills on with us there. We'll also have the head 1388 01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,599 Speaker 9: coach went Woods Chaff Murphy's joining us, Dan Court from 1389 01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:01,160 Speaker 9: Boom County is joining us. Kyle Hogan from Saint Bernardo 1390 01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:03,120 Speaker 9: in One Place will be joining us. They play on 1391 01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:06,200 Speaker 9: Saturday day, have one eighth straight game. He'll be fun 1392 01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,680 Speaker 9: to talk to as well, So listen to that, and 1393 01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:11,280 Speaker 9: then after the game, go to Tri statefootball dot com 1394 01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,240 Speaker 9: the Underground sports Shop scoreboard. We'll have all the scores 1395 01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:17,160 Speaker 9: for you. We'll have highlights, recaps, all kinds of. 1396 01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:17,880 Speaker 7: Great stuff for you. 1397 01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:20,320 Speaker 9: Or a Tri State Football Tomorrow. 1398 01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:23,519 Speaker 4: Night excellent as always, look forward to it. Thank you 1399 01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:24,920 Speaker 4: for the time. We'll talk next week. 1400 01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,200 Speaker 9: Sounds good, guys. It'll be a fun one playoff start 1401 01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:28,639 Speaker 9: next week. 1402 01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:32,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Greig, Thanks Greg, We got it. 1403 01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:38,240 Speaker 4: Greg Schumaker high School Football tonight, tri statefootball dot Com. 1404 01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:39,720 Speaker 4: What do you say we take a time out of 1405 01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:43,080 Speaker 4: continue up next, Let's offer up some fantasy football advice. 1406 01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,120 Speaker 3: For that, we'll turn to Dan Klaskins. 1407 01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:47,560 Speaker 4: We are rolling through a Thursday night, hanging at it 1408 01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:50,240 Speaker 4: long next in Richwood. We'll do our drawing in about 1409 01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:53,200 Speaker 4: thirteen minutes of cool Bengals print to give away eight 1410 01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,479 Speaker 4: o'clock hour. We'll get back into the Bengals look ahead 1411 01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,120 Speaker 4: to the matchup against the Jets, we'll do a hot 1412 01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:01,519 Speaker 4: topic around the NFL, might have to expanded to the 1413 01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:04,439 Speaker 4: hot topic around sports, what's going on with the NBA 1414 01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:07,439 Speaker 4: and the gambling investigation today and more. 1415 01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:10,160 Speaker 3: We'll travel Rockies Road as well. Oh, I can't wait. 1416 01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,080 Speaker 4: I want, I want you to tell me the story 1417 01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:15,920 Speaker 4: of Delaware and Joe Flacco later on if we do that. 1418 01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:19,240 Speaker 4: He is Rocky on Lance Long Next in Richwood. It's 1419 01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:22,800 Speaker 4: the Roundtable Show presented by Postman Law seven hundred WLW 1420 01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:33,919 Speaker 4: seven fifty one, seven hundred WLW the Cincinnati Tax Resolution 1421 01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:36,720 Speaker 4: powered by Dope Sheldon round Table Show. We're at Long 1422 01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:40,160 Speaker 4: Next In in Richwood, presented by Postman Law, Lance McAllister 1423 01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:45,200 Speaker 4: and Rocky Boyman. It is time for our Fantasy football segment, 1424 01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:48,720 Speaker 4: Week number six. Our next guest, our weekly guest is 1425 01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:53,320 Speaker 4: host of Fantastics Insider Football series XM Fantasy. 1426 01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:57,400 Speaker 3: Let's welcome in, Dan Klaskins. How are you. 1427 01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:00,679 Speaker 13: What's up doing tonight? 1428 01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:04,599 Speaker 4: We are good, ready to go. Big weekend coming up, 1429 01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,840 Speaker 4: and let's get to it. Because last week we looked 1430 01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:10,400 Speaker 4: at some players to target in trade, So let's look 1431 01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:13,639 Speaker 4: this week at some guys that you might consider selling 1432 01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:14,080 Speaker 4: high on. 1433 01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:19,760 Speaker 13: Yeah no, doubt about it. Trade deadlines coming up in 1434 01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:22,760 Speaker 13: many leagues. First and foremost, let's be sure we know 1435 01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:24,800 Speaker 13: when our league's trade deadline is. I'm in a lot 1436 01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:28,000 Speaker 13: of leagues, but none of the trade deadlines are the same, 1437 01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:31,360 Speaker 13: so you know, don't wait till the last minute. Always 1438 01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:32,720 Speaker 13: you sort of get out in front of that. But 1439 01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:34,880 Speaker 13: if you are in the market some players you might 1440 01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:36,720 Speaker 13: want to shop right now, and we do like to 1441 01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:39,280 Speaker 13: sell Highlands. It's harder to get much higher than Aaron 1442 01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:43,280 Speaker 13: Rodgers with his value currently, and I think we all 1443 01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:45,040 Speaker 13: tell what he put out there last week because that 1444 01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:47,960 Speaker 13: was actually a second four touchdown performance of the season. 1445 01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,320 Speaker 13: I gotta admit it's gone better from a fantasy perspective, 1446 01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:54,000 Speaker 13: I was expected because for passing game. That said, I 1447 01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:56,200 Speaker 13: am concerned with the schedule that Eliza ahead. 1448 01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:58,559 Speaker 7: I don't know if it's going to be able. 1449 01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:00,080 Speaker 13: To be contained, and we know when it gets to 1450 01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:01,840 Speaker 13: the summer, I'm expecting Pittsburgh is. 1451 01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:02,839 Speaker 1: Going to want to run football. 1452 01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:06,559 Speaker 13: So Rogers, especially in Superplex League, is probably very marketable 1453 01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:09,040 Speaker 13: right now and somebody you should consider. You should also 1454 01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:11,559 Speaker 13: take a look at Bears running back Dedre Swift for 1455 01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:12,960 Speaker 13: many of the same reasons. 1456 01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:13,200 Speaker 1: Now. 1457 01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:16,040 Speaker 13: The volume has been his best friend and he's getting 1458 01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:19,479 Speaker 13: a ton of carries, but it's also leading to a 1459 01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:21,439 Speaker 13: lot of the yards. Back to back under yard games 1460 01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:23,719 Speaker 13: scored a touchdown with that last week. He take twenty 1461 01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:27,240 Speaker 13: plus PPR points down in his last two. That said, 1462 01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:30,280 Speaker 13: I'm still not sold on the efficiency overall. I do 1463 01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:33,320 Speaker 13: think the schedules had something to do with the shout outings, 1464 01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:37,640 Speaker 13: and with a lot of limited options out there, I 1465 01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:43,519 Speaker 13: would definitely consider moving along from there. Elsewhere we've got 1466 01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:46,880 Speaker 13: at the wide receiver position. AJ Brown, he's been at 1467 01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:49,120 Speaker 13: disappointment most of the season. Finally got out of that 1468 01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:51,639 Speaker 13: funk edd at the entire Eagles passing game a week ago, 1469 01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:55,120 Speaker 13: so I likely will look to him. And then finally 1470 01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:55,960 Speaker 13: Travis Kelsey. 1471 01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:57,559 Speaker 7: I mean, he hasn't really. 1472 01:13:57,400 --> 01:13:59,960 Speaker 13: Been red hot, but coming off a pretty strong perform 1473 01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:02,840 Speaker 13: Rman's there the returner Rashie right, I am a bit 1474 01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:05,679 Speaker 13: concerned about his target volume. I do think it's more 1475 01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:09,160 Speaker 13: the names more valuable than is actually production at this point, 1476 01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:11,280 Speaker 13: so now still a good time to shopping. 1477 01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:16,280 Speaker 6: Of course, many injuries just the time of the year here, Dan, 1478 01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:19,360 Speaker 6: But let's talk specifically before you get into the others 1479 01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:23,880 Speaker 6: about Lamar Jackson and Jayden Daniels. 1480 01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:25,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, Rockey, you're absolutely right. 1481 01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:26,800 Speaker 7: Those quarterbacks. 1482 01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:28,879 Speaker 13: I mean, those are injuries not just to those players 1483 01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,200 Speaker 13: but all the pieces around them. We've seen what that's 1484 01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:34,360 Speaker 13: been like in Baltimore in recent weeks. But they're offense 1485 01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:37,880 Speaker 13: but coming out of there by looking pretty good. 1486 01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:38,120 Speaker 7: Here. 1487 01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:41,640 Speaker 13: Lamar Jackson practicing is trending in the right direction with 1488 01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:45,120 Speaker 13: the hamstring, So based off of everything we're seeing right now, 1489 01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:49,519 Speaker 13: we're optimistic there. We can't be equally optimistic though, for 1490 01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:52,599 Speaker 13: Jaydon Daniels, he's already been ruled out for Monday's affair 1491 01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:56,680 Speaker 13: in Kansas City. Marcus Mariota will start there versus Chiefs, 1492 01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:00,760 Speaker 13: So good news is the MRI doesn't look like it's 1493 01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:03,559 Speaker 13: a long term injury here, but it's already the second 1494 01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:06,920 Speaker 13: time the second year quarterback's been shelf this season with 1495 01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:10,280 Speaker 13: growing concerns around his durability, which is partly his style. 1496 01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:14,400 Speaker 13: Will play Brice Young, another quarterback. He's technically listed day 1497 01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:16,120 Speaker 13: to day, but both I think that red rifle was 1498 01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:19,520 Speaker 13: going to get to Paul here versus Buffalo. All expectations 1499 01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:22,600 Speaker 13: are Andy Galton to start for the Panthers young to 1500 01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:26,479 Speaker 13: miss at least one week. We'll see out Friday trends tonight. 1501 01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:28,719 Speaker 13: Let's talk about tonight, though, because there is a big 1502 01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:33,000 Speaker 13: news here. Within the last hour or so, the Vikings 1503 01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:37,240 Speaker 13: have officially activated running back Aaron Jones off injured reserve. 1504 01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:40,600 Speaker 13: He missed the last four games with the hamstring issue 1505 01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:43,360 Speaker 13: in his assen seort. Mason's averaged six and a half 1506 01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:46,200 Speaker 13: touches for seventy five point three yards per scrimmage and 1507 01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:49,960 Speaker 13: scoring four rushing touchdowns, and now the return of Jones 1508 01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:52,240 Speaker 13: just sort of cloudy out a little bit. I still 1509 01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:54,920 Speaker 13: think Mason's a nice back end RB two. I did 1510 01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:58,120 Speaker 13: like him over Jones based on their ADP in the preseason, 1511 01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:00,200 Speaker 13: but I will expect Jones to get involved, and I 1512 01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:01,559 Speaker 13: especially in the passing games. 1513 01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:02,479 Speaker 7: I'm not real. 1514 01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:04,559 Speaker 13: I'd probably wait and see before I take him in 1515 01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:06,880 Speaker 13: the lineup. But with six teams on by this week 1516 01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:10,679 Speaker 13: by mcgeddon is struck, we're seeing a lot of desperate moves. 1517 01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:12,360 Speaker 13: So if you need Jones, you can plug him in. 1518 01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:14,760 Speaker 1: Receivers are always. 1519 01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:16,519 Speaker 7: The big names. Every week, I give you guys another 1520 01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:17,920 Speaker 7: wide receiver. 1521 01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:20,280 Speaker 13: One that is not in action this week. I expect 1522 01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:23,439 Speaker 13: that to be Mike Collins or excuse me, Nico Collins 1523 01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,599 Speaker 13: with his concussion he suffered. Is you had to even 1524 01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:28,800 Speaker 13: clear any type of things in barring a miracle, he's 1525 01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:30,560 Speaker 13: out this week and how likely for the rest of 1526 01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:34,160 Speaker 13: the season. Mike Evan with coller bone issue, actually got 1527 01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:36,200 Speaker 13: concuss and broke as Cayler bone on the same play 1528 01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:39,080 Speaker 13: in the early Monday night game here in week seven. 1529 01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:42,320 Speaker 13: And then Bucky Irving Chris Godwin, they're not going to 1530 01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:44,200 Speaker 13: return this week to Bucks with to buy next week 1531 01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:47,080 Speaker 13: they'll get that extra time, but Baker Mayfield Company will 1532 01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:50,559 Speaker 13: be limited in their resources once again this time around. 1533 01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:51,679 Speaker 7: And then we can't. 1534 01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:54,600 Speaker 13: Talk to injuries without what's going on here in Cincinnati 1535 01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:58,320 Speaker 13: because the opponent, the Jets, already a pretty terrible team. 1536 01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:00,599 Speaker 13: We don't know who the quarterbacks going to this week, 1537 01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:03,519 Speaker 13: but their two best fantasy assets not named Breezaw Garrick 1538 01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:08,320 Speaker 13: Wilson and Mason Taylor now looking doubtful for at least 1539 01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:11,559 Speaker 13: ify here as we head towards Friday's practice. Wilson I'm 1540 01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:14,519 Speaker 13: a little less optimistic on he's been hurt all week 1541 01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:17,040 Speaker 13: with the knee issue. Mason Taylor just added to the 1542 01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:20,160 Speaker 13: injury report today, did not practice, and most of the 1543 01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:22,040 Speaker 13: beat writer's stuff I'm seeing come out of New York 1544 01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:24,559 Speaker 13: says he actually suffered a quad injuror yesterday, so the 1545 01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:26,760 Speaker 13: young tight end could be out of action. Speaking of 1546 01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,680 Speaker 13: tight ends, the comeback story of Danner Waller may have 1547 01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:32,160 Speaker 13: hit an abrupt pology here. He's been placed on IR 1548 01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:35,719 Speaker 13: with the tech issue pectoral and an oblique issue. Dalton 1549 01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:38,719 Speaker 13: and Cage been battling, but he is limited in practice 1550 01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:41,439 Speaker 13: and could return this week, although they may not need 1551 01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:42,800 Speaker 13: him versus the Panthers. 1552 01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:45,760 Speaker 4: All right, how about our weekly lineup advice? Give me 1553 01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:47,480 Speaker 4: some studs, duds and slippers. 1554 01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:49,800 Speaker 1: Well, I mean quinz. 1555 01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:53,400 Speaker 13: John Jenkins has emerged as the best fantasy running back 1556 01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:57,320 Speaker 13: this season for sure, and at least in fantasy football. 1557 01:17:57,760 --> 01:17:59,880 Speaker 13: Love what we're seeing at the goal line work here 1558 01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:03,120 Speaker 13: the matchup this week, first New England. I'm not really 1559 01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:05,680 Speaker 13: worried about the russ defense. I am worried about game 1560 01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:07,920 Speaker 13: script though if the Browns get behind, that could hurt it. 1561 01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:09,719 Speaker 13: But I've still got him in my side, my top 1562 01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,080 Speaker 13: ten and Drake London. I mean, he has really been 1563 01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:15,879 Speaker 13: underrated coming on of late Michael Pennix junior back at practice, 1564 01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:18,080 Speaker 13: so he's trending in the right direction. They get Miami, 1565 01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:20,240 Speaker 13: I think quit on every day. I got Drake London 1566 01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:24,000 Speaker 13: at my wide receiver three this week, so absolutely fire 1567 01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:26,639 Speaker 13: up on him on the dud side of a Dj 1568 01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:28,840 Speaker 13: Moore Atlances. You'd like to say the back of a 1569 01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,640 Speaker 13: baseball card. I mean that's what Dj Moore basically is 1570 01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:34,760 Speaker 13: in fantasy. He gets five targets every week for three 1571 01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:37,200 Speaker 13: catches in about forty yards and he's about a fifty 1572 01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:39,920 Speaker 13: to fifty back for a touchdown. Again with six teams 1573 01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:42,200 Speaker 13: on by, I've got him in a flex spot this week, 1574 01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:45,000 Speaker 13: not crazy about it. He's dealing with the hip issue 1575 01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:48,720 Speaker 13: as well, but he's outside my top thirty receivers and 1576 01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:51,760 Speaker 13: Teja Hopkins are playing tonight tight n seventeen on my 1577 01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:54,240 Speaker 13: board here for week number seven. It's been a very 1578 01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,240 Speaker 13: disappointing season for him. A lot of that has to 1579 01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:59,519 Speaker 13: do with the quarterback play. So barring a touchdown tonight, 1580 01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:01,599 Speaker 13: he's not going to have a big stat line. 1581 01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:02,719 Speaker 1: And a couple of sleepers. 1582 01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:04,519 Speaker 13: I mean, yeah, I'm in Joe Black. I excite this 1583 01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:07,120 Speaker 13: all been in fantasy He's actually a viable starting option 1584 01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:09,960 Speaker 13: this week, especially again with the six teams on by 1585 01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:12,160 Speaker 13: when you got to March, Chase and T Higgins, that's 1586 01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:15,240 Speaker 13: good enough against the Jets to the q QB fifteen 1587 01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:17,479 Speaker 13: and now Rookie I was really high on coming in 1588 01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:19,439 Speaker 13: the season's been slow to start, but starting to get 1589 01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:21,280 Speaker 13: going now. I think he's going to get going the 1590 01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:23,719 Speaker 13: best this week whereus the Bear's R. J. Harvey sneaks 1591 01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:26,080 Speaker 13: into my top twenty five and certainly a good flex 1592 01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:27,600 Speaker 13: stoption for just about any for me. 1593 01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:32,280 Speaker 4: All Right, Dan, We've talked about it before, but the 1594 01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:35,960 Speaker 4: importance of it remains. Do good Fantasy is all about 1595 01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:40,080 Speaker 4: fantasy football with a mission. Explain how it supports DAV 1596 01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:41,760 Speaker 4: and why it's so important to you. 1597 01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:45,200 Speaker 13: Yes, Lancey and I love to help those veterans, and 1598 01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:47,040 Speaker 13: we all do. This is an easy way to do it. 1599 01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:49,600 Speaker 13: Do good Fantasy. 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Check it out, learn more, Do good 1607 01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:07,639 Speaker 13: Fantasy dot. 1608 01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:11,160 Speaker 4: Com fantastic, always good catching up. 1609 01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:12,519 Speaker 3: Let's do it again next week. 1610 01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:15,160 Speaker 13: Have a great night, guys. 1611 01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:16,960 Speaker 3: Thanks Dan, you as well. 1612 01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:20,760 Speaker 4: Dan Klaskins weekly with our fantasy football segment, the host 1613 01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:25,439 Speaker 4: of Fantastics, Insider Football, Serious XM Fantasy. Two hours in 1614 01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:28,280 Speaker 4: the books, one more to unfold. We'll get to that, 1615 01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:31,519 Speaker 4: Bengals and Jets, and so much more as we turn 1616 01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:34,080 Speaker 4: the corner into the eight o'clock after check on News, 1617 01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:37,720 Speaker 4: It's the Roundtable Show Long Next in Richwood Here on 1618 01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:40,360 Speaker 4: seven hundred WLW. 1619 01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:44,519 Speaker 2: Live from Longnecks and Wilder, presented by Postman Law. Brought 1620 01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:47,719 Speaker 2: to you in part by Honda East and Honda East 1621 01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:52,320 Speaker 2: Pour Equipment Dealer, Skyline Chili Feeling good. It's Skyline time. 1622 01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:55,920 Speaker 2: R and L Carriers. 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We do it 1634 01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:35,360 Speaker 4: from Long Next in Richwood this week. Next week we 1635 01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:38,719 Speaker 4: head to the Hebrewn location, and we were there next 1636 01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:41,160 Speaker 4: Thursday and each Thursday in the month of November. So 1637 01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:44,240 Speaker 4: follow along and join us next week. Thanks to everybody 1638 01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:46,559 Speaker 4: here at the Long Necks in Richwood. They've always taken 1639 01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:48,760 Speaker 4: good care of us. We love this setup and we 1640 01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:52,240 Speaker 4: look forward to being back here again soon. He's Rocky 1641 01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:54,639 Speaker 4: Boyman on Lance mc allister. We have been here, there 1642 01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:56,759 Speaker 4: and everywhere in our first two hours. We've got Bengals 1643 01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:58,439 Speaker 4: and Jets to get back to. In this hour, while 1644 01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:00,559 Speaker 4: I'm thinking about it and looking at him, we have 1645 01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:05,080 Speaker 4: a really cool guest special listener who has joined us 1646 01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:08,600 Speaker 4: from Australia. I wrote down Scott, I hope it is 1647 01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:09,040 Speaker 4: it's Scott. 1648 01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:09,679 Speaker 3: It is Scott. 1649 01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:12,760 Speaker 4: Okay, because I wrote it on social media Steve and 1650 01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:14,599 Speaker 4: I said, way, I'm an idiot. I wrote down Scott, 1651 01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:17,400 Speaker 4: and then I confused myself, but it's Scott. Final answer 1652 01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:20,680 Speaker 4: is Scott. I get very confused. Scott is from Australia, 1653 01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,680 Speaker 4: part of Bengals fans down Under and listens to the 1654 01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:26,240 Speaker 4: podcast in Australia. He's here in town for the weekend. 1655 01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:28,679 Speaker 4: He's going to the game on Sunday. How cool is that. 1656 01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:33,479 Speaker 5: They listened to two podcasts Bengals related and on Monday. 1657 01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:37,880 Speaker 4: Absolutely very cool, very cool. So welcome and thank you 1658 01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:40,880 Speaker 4: for stopping by tonight. AND's saying hi. All right, let's 1659 01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:43,599 Speaker 4: get into Bengals and Jets. Jets are oh and seven? 1660 01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:48,280 Speaker 4: Rock and Rich Semini covers the Jets for ESPN, and 1661 01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:49,880 Speaker 4: he was on with Dan and Lap last night on 1662 01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:55,240 Speaker 4: the Bengals PEP Rally Show or Bengals game Plan Show. 1663 01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:57,639 Speaker 4: There's so many different Bengals shows. I can't keep it straight. 1664 01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:00,679 Speaker 4: On the game Plan Show and they asked Rich Jets 1665 01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:03,720 Speaker 4: team is oh and seven? Are they that bad? Are 1666 01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:06,120 Speaker 4: they truly an oh and seven football team? Here's what 1667 01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:06,559 Speaker 4: he said. 1668 01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:10,120 Speaker 14: That's a fascinating question because if you look at their roster, 1669 01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:14,400 Speaker 14: they do have some very good players. I mean, we've 1670 01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:17,240 Speaker 14: talked about them, Garrett Wilson and Breeze Hall. And their 1671 01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:20,479 Speaker 14: offensive line has a couple of good players, and Sauce 1672 01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:24,280 Speaker 14: Gardner and Quinton Williams and Jamien Sherwood's a good linebacker. 1673 01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:27,720 Speaker 14: The two edge rushers, Johnson and McDonald. So they have 1674 01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:32,280 Speaker 14: good players. They just haven't put it together, which is 1675 01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:34,719 Speaker 14: just the sign of a bad team. Like I said, 1676 01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:36,920 Speaker 14: the defense has played well the last two weeks. The 1677 01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:39,439 Speaker 14: special teams have played well the last couple of weeks. 1678 01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:43,880 Speaker 14: Their punter a guy who was in Cincinnati, Austin McNamara. 1679 01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:45,920 Speaker 14: He's one of the best punters in the league right now. 1680 01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:48,360 Speaker 14: And Nick Folk is a terrific kicker. 1681 01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:49,680 Speaker 3: So they have some. 1682 01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:53,799 Speaker 14: Components of a winning team, but it just never shows 1683 01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:57,120 Speaker 14: up on the same Sunday. And they might go out 1684 01:23:57,120 --> 01:24:01,160 Speaker 14: Sunday and their offense might put up like twenty eight 1685 01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:02,040 Speaker 14: points and. 1686 01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:04,559 Speaker 10: The defense will just have a bad day. 1687 01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:06,400 Speaker 14: It's been that kind of year for the Jets, So 1688 01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:09,920 Speaker 14: I understand what the Bengals are coming from. Zach Taylor's 1689 01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:13,280 Speaker 14: probably like selling the Jets. This is not an O seventeen, 1690 01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:16,000 Speaker 14: but they are zero to seven for a reason. They 1691 01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:19,160 Speaker 14: just selling it destruct and too many self inflicted bots. 1692 01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:22,040 Speaker 4: I thought it was interesting Rock how Zach put it 1693 01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:25,320 Speaker 4: yesterday he was asking about the importance of this stretch 1694 01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:29,000 Speaker 4: three straight at home Steelers followed by the Jets, followed 1695 01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:31,000 Speaker 4: by the Bears, and the idea of getting to five 1696 01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:34,920 Speaker 4: and four at the buy and Zach's response was, it's 1697 01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:38,479 Speaker 4: not a stretch. It's a game. It's this game on Sunday. 1698 01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:41,760 Speaker 4: It can't be three games, it can't be playoffs. It's 1699 01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:44,840 Speaker 4: one game. And it's the classic cliche one game at 1700 01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:47,360 Speaker 4: a time. But that holds true. You can't as much 1701 01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:51,240 Speaker 4: as last week was perhaps a must win game, this 1702 01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:53,679 Speaker 4: is a must win game. You can't take a step 1703 01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:56,000 Speaker 4: forward by beating the Steelers then take two steps back 1704 01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:57,320 Speaker 4: by losing home to the Jets. 1705 01:24:57,760 --> 01:24:57,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1706 01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:01,559 Speaker 5: Look, I mean for a play it's hard to wrap 1707 01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:05,160 Speaker 5: your head around seventeen games. I'll never forget. And when 1708 01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:07,679 Speaker 5: I was with the Colts' sit next to Dan Klecko 1709 01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:10,120 Speaker 5: and we sitting in the meeting, and there'd be the 1710 01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:12,360 Speaker 5: like the board of like the games, and you know, 1711 01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:15,439 Speaker 5: win losses and all the stats, and there's just all 1712 01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:17,960 Speaker 5: these helmets, like seemingly like a hundred of them. And 1713 01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:22,680 Speaker 5: if you look at that board, You're like, oh my god. 1714 01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:23,720 Speaker 3: How do we win? Like how do we do this? 1715 01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:24,679 Speaker 3: For the you know what I mean? 1716 01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:29,120 Speaker 5: But if you break it down into seventeen one game season, 1717 01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:31,200 Speaker 5: you can wrap your head around that. But to go 1718 01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:33,559 Speaker 5: out there and all the things that go into play 1719 01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,200 Speaker 5: in all those games and the ups and the downs 1720 01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:39,360 Speaker 5: and what do we gotta do, it's just overwhelming focus 1721 01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:40,479 Speaker 5: on a one game season. 1722 01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:43,839 Speaker 4: They're zero to seven, and compounding issues for the Jets, 1723 01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:48,040 Speaker 4: two of their best players didn't practice again today. Sauce Gardner, 1724 01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:52,799 Speaker 4: the fine former UC Bearcat defensive back, and also Garrett Wilson, 1725 01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:55,960 Speaker 4: the Ohio state wide receiver, missed his first game of 1726 01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:58,559 Speaker 4: his young career last week. Within the issue, they didn't 1727 01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:03,879 Speaker 4: practice yesterday, neither practice today. Last night rich on Bengals 1728 01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:07,160 Speaker 4: Game Plan talked about injuries to those two players. 1729 01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:09,360 Speaker 10: I think, pound for pound. 1730 01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:12,040 Speaker 14: Quinn Williams is their best defensive player. You know, he's 1731 01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:15,000 Speaker 14: a former first team All Pro. Now, sauce Gardner gets 1732 01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:18,439 Speaker 14: a lot of the accolades, but I do not believe 1733 01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:20,639 Speaker 14: sauce Gardner will play in this team on Sunday. 1734 01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:23,000 Speaker 10: He's in the concussion protocol and. 1735 01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:27,080 Speaker 14: So offensively, Garrett Wilson, I do believe is probably their 1736 01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:28,280 Speaker 14: best offensive player. 1737 01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:30,439 Speaker 10: Now there's a good chance he may not play in 1738 01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:30,880 Speaker 10: this game. 1739 01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:31,519 Speaker 3: He did not. 1740 01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:34,680 Speaker 14: Practice again today. He's dealing with the knee injury that 1741 01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:38,639 Speaker 14: kept him out on Sunday. They're saying day to day. However, 1742 01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:41,280 Speaker 14: I am a little skeptical. 1743 01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:41,719 Speaker 3: About his chances. 1744 01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:44,400 Speaker 14: The Jets have the bye week right after Cincinnati, so 1745 01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:47,120 Speaker 14: I think there's a sense in the organization that hey, 1746 01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:49,040 Speaker 14: we'll just let him sit out this game and then 1747 01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:51,280 Speaker 14: have him come out of the bye week feeling one 1748 01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:54,920 Speaker 14: hundred percent. So yeah, that's you know, a Sauce Gardner 1749 01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:56,599 Speaker 14: and Garrett Wilson, of two of their best. 1750 01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:58,160 Speaker 10: Players aren't there. It's going to be tough for them. 1751 01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:02,760 Speaker 4: On Sunday, the ESPN, who covers the Jets, now, he 1752 01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:05,200 Speaker 4: was asked and it's been a circus this week from 1753 01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:08,280 Speaker 4: the quarterback standpoint, and Justin Fields was bench last week. 1754 01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:12,000 Speaker 4: Tyrod Taylor went in the owner Woody Johnson made his 1755 01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:15,200 Speaker 4: comments towards Justin Fields, and you know, when your quarterback 1756 01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:18,120 Speaker 4: paraphrasing plays the way he does, you understand the record. 1757 01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:20,880 Speaker 4: It would help if we could complete a pass and 1758 01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:24,120 Speaker 4: which which publicly then created then you imagine the feeding 1759 01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:26,880 Speaker 4: frenzy in New York when the owner says that Rich 1760 01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:29,759 Speaker 4: was asked last night, all things considered with this team, 1761 01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:32,280 Speaker 4: do the issues begin with the quarterback? 1762 01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:33,080 Speaker 3: Here's what he said. 1763 01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:36,240 Speaker 14: Well, if you asked the owner, Woody Johnson, he would 1764 01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:37,439 Speaker 14: say it's the quarterback play. 1765 01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:40,040 Speaker 10: He basically creat justin field under the bus. 1766 01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:44,559 Speaker 14: Yesterday when we approached him at the league meetings, he 1767 01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:48,040 Speaker 14: you know, he just really dumped on on Fields, which 1768 01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:50,040 Speaker 14: I mean what he said was not untrue. 1769 01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:52,760 Speaker 10: I mean, Fields is not having a good year. This 1770 01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:53,959 Speaker 10: team has gone. 1771 01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:57,600 Speaker 14: They've only scored six touchdowns in the last six games, 1772 01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:01,680 Speaker 14: and so they are really really he's probably offensively, so yeah, 1773 01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:03,559 Speaker 14: I would say quarterback plays a big. 1774 01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:03,880 Speaker 3: Part of it. 1775 01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:07,000 Speaker 14: But early in the year, for the first five games, 1776 01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:09,160 Speaker 14: the defense was horrible. I mean they were giving up 1777 01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:12,479 Speaker 14: over thirty points a game. So they've been taking turns, 1778 01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:16,080 Speaker 14: which I think bad teams usually do. And now the 1779 01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:19,040 Speaker 14: defense has settled down. The defense has actually played two 1780 01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:22,439 Speaker 14: good games in a row against Carolina and Denver. But 1781 01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:24,760 Speaker 14: now the offense can't get it out of its own way. 1782 01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:28,000 Speaker 14: Two streat games without a touchdown. But I would say 1783 01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:31,160 Speaker 14: quarterback play is a big part of the issue, which 1784 01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:33,400 Speaker 14: is why I believe Justin Gills is probably going to 1785 01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:33,880 Speaker 14: the bench. 1786 01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:35,559 Speaker 7: Rock. 1787 01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:37,960 Speaker 4: If you don't have a quarterback, you're gonna have major 1788 01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:40,960 Speaker 4: problems in this league. That's not breaking news. And this 1789 01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:44,599 Speaker 4: Jets rundown of quarterbacks I looked at They've had six 1790 01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:46,840 Speaker 4: different quarterback start games in the last two and a 1791 01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:49,880 Speaker 4: half years. They've had fourteen different quarterbacks start games in 1792 01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:52,400 Speaker 4: the last ten years. How about these names going back 1793 01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:57,879 Speaker 4: to twenty sixteen, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Bryce Petty, Gino Smith, Josh McCown, 1794 01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:03,200 Speaker 4: Sam Darnold, Luke Falk, Joe Flacco, Trevor Simeon, Mike White, 1795 01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:07,599 Speaker 4: Tim Boyle, Aaron Rodgers, Justin Fields, tyrod Taylor. 1796 01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:10,439 Speaker 3: You're not gonna win when it's a musical chairs like. 1797 01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:14,000 Speaker 5: That, which again makes it all the more Glennon howlten. 1798 01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:16,600 Speaker 5: Do we talk about with the Bengals just getting the 1799 01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:20,400 Speaker 5: gift of Joe Burrow and not being able to protect 1800 01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:23,880 Speaker 5: the investment because you got a franchise that is just 1801 01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:27,240 Speaker 5: searching high and low to try to find that guy. 1802 01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:30,559 Speaker 5: Haven't found him in over ten years, Maybe haven't found 1803 01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:34,840 Speaker 5: him since Vinny testaverdie or you know, maybe that one 1804 01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:38,360 Speaker 5: year Farv was there, maybe Paynington, but but yeah, but yeah, 1805 01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:41,880 Speaker 5: it's tough when you're cycling through quarterbacks seemingly a year 1806 01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:42,519 Speaker 5: in year out. 1807 01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:45,880 Speaker 4: One name to keep an ear out for an eye 1808 01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:48,840 Speaker 4: out for this weekend is Brice Hall. They're running back 1809 01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:51,120 Speaker 4: who averages four and a half yards of carre's rushed 1810 01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:55,559 Speaker 4: for almost five hundred yards. He's been a threat in 1811 01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:58,160 Speaker 4: the passing game out of the backfield in recent years, 1812 01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:00,639 Speaker 4: not as much this year. Rich I mean, he talked 1813 01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:02,280 Speaker 4: about that aspect of their offense. 1814 01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:06,240 Speaker 14: They don't use him enough in the passing game. It's 1815 01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:09,000 Speaker 14: kind of been one of the mysteries here. I think 1816 01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:10,760 Speaker 14: he's such a good receiver. A couple of years ago 1817 01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:13,320 Speaker 14: he had seventy five catches and he led all running backs, 1818 01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:16,640 Speaker 14: And now they don't really use him that much. They 1819 01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:19,280 Speaker 14: Jets do not throw screen passes to the running backs, 1820 01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:21,840 Speaker 14: which is always another mystery. It would be a great 1821 01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:24,519 Speaker 14: way to slow down a good pass rushing team, and 1822 01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:25,200 Speaker 14: yet they. 1823 01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:26,080 Speaker 10: Don't really do that. 1824 01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:28,599 Speaker 3: But they do have a good running game. 1825 01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:32,280 Speaker 14: Their entire offense is built on being a good running team. 1826 01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:36,240 Speaker 14: Now when they have justin fields in there in Week one, 1827 01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:41,160 Speaker 14: they look dynamic against Pittsburgh with fields running some zone 1828 01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:44,479 Speaker 14: reads and some RPOs, Breeze Hall running out of the 1829 01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:47,519 Speaker 14: backfield of Braylan Allen. It's like, my gosh, this looks 1830 01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:50,160 Speaker 14: like a pretty good offense. But they've never been able 1831 01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:52,080 Speaker 14: to recapture what they had in Week one. 1832 01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:53,640 Speaker 10: I think teams. 1833 01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:56,720 Speaker 14: Adjusted to what they've been doing and stopping them on 1834 01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:58,600 Speaker 14: first and second down, and when you get them in 1835 01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:01,360 Speaker 14: third and long, it just not equipped to be a 1836 01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:04,200 Speaker 14: third and long type passing team. 1837 01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:06,479 Speaker 4: Rock you had, I know you've had Matt Campbell and 1838 01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:08,280 Speaker 4: Iowa staated a couple of times over the years. Did 1839 01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:10,800 Speaker 4: you have Bresee Hall, it would be a dynamic here's 1840 01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:12,639 Speaker 4: go Yeah, Yeah, great player. 1841 01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:15,160 Speaker 5: Yeah and like I said, even in college, was really 1842 01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:18,080 Speaker 5: good on the backfield, but kind of probably goes back 1843 01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:20,960 Speaker 5: to the quarterback situation, no doubt. 1844 01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:24,479 Speaker 4: That's our first look at Sunday's opponent, the New York Jets. 1845 01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:26,880 Speaker 4: It's brought to you by Game Day Men's Health. Get 1846 01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:30,280 Speaker 4: back in the game today with Game Day Men's Health. 1847 01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:33,320 Speaker 4: Let's take a look at the AFC North while we 1848 01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:35,920 Speaker 4: got a chance. 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Ravens have better 1858 01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:07,360 Speaker 4: odds to make the playoffs than the Bengals right now. 1859 01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:10,240 Speaker 4: I find that very interesting. At one in five they 1860 01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:15,480 Speaker 4: still have better odds. The fact that the fact remaining schedule, 1861 01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:19,680 Speaker 4: stuff like like that, I would think, but it's it 1862 01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:23,920 Speaker 4: is a little odd. The Bengals are certainly not in 1863 01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:27,479 Speaker 4: as deeply into the picture as you would like. I 1864 01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:30,280 Speaker 4: think they're ninth in the seventeen pecking order. The Ravens 1865 01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:33,840 Speaker 4: are thirteenth and yet to have better odds to find 1866 01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:35,479 Speaker 4: a way to get in. The two and five Browns 1867 01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:37,920 Speaker 4: are at the five and two Patriots. Patriots won four 1868 01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:43,840 Speaker 4: in a row last week. Now, I'm I'm blanking. 1869 01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:43,960 Speaker 3: On his name. 1870 01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:48,759 Speaker 4: The Patriots quarterback may Drake. May Drake May went twenty 1871 01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:51,840 Speaker 4: one of twenty three, twenty one of twenty three, a 1872 01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:56,080 Speaker 4: franchise record ninety one point three percent completion percentage Sunday 1873 01:32:56,120 --> 01:32:56,760 Speaker 4: Night four and two. 1874 01:32:56,880 --> 01:32:58,519 Speaker 6: Did you say as the franchise record? 1875 01:32:58,600 --> 01:32:58,760 Speaker 7: Yes? 1876 01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:01,920 Speaker 4: Break Grady, Yes, Brady and everybody a ninety one point 1877 01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:06,320 Speaker 4: three percent passing completion rape Sunday Night Steelers with Aaron 1878 01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:09,400 Speaker 4: Rodgers four and two home to the four one and 1879 01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:13,400 Speaker 4: one Packers. If Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers win, Rogers 1880 01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:16,519 Speaker 4: becomes the fifth quarterback with wins over thirty two different 1881 01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:21,400 Speaker 4: NFL teams, joining Brady, Breeze, Farb and Manning. 1882 01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:23,519 Speaker 3: That is our look at the AFC North. 1883 01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:25,920 Speaker 4: When we come back, we usually call it our hot 1884 01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:29,880 Speaker 4: topic around the NFL? Can we can we cheat a 1885 01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:31,720 Speaker 4: little bit and expanded it and call it the hot 1886 01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:35,400 Speaker 4: topic around sports today? With what is transpiring that every 1887 01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:39,120 Speaker 4: league is probably looking at thinking, oh, man, are we 1888 01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:41,639 Speaker 4: okay in our league? Is this gonna happen in our league? 1889 01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:48,400 Speaker 4: Can we get into the Oh yeah, exactly right? And 1890 01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:55,160 Speaker 4: we got mafia stuff and X ray insider trading information 1891 01:33:55,400 --> 01:33:58,240 Speaker 4: going on all of that as we continue, He's Rocky, 1892 01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:00,759 Speaker 4: I'm Lance. It's Long Necks in Richwood for the roundtable 1893 01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:03,000 Speaker 4: show presented by Postman Long brought to you in part 1894 01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:06,439 Speaker 4: by Miami University where Today's students become Tomorrow's leaders. 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Thirty four 1904 01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:49,280 Speaker 4: individuals arrested part of a major investigation involving insider sports 1905 01:34:49,320 --> 01:34:53,200 Speaker 4: betting and ragged illegal poker games. The headliners of this 1906 01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:56,960 Speaker 4: the head coach of the Portland Trailblazers, former NBA star 1907 01:34:57,120 --> 01:35:01,519 Speaker 4: Chauncey Billups, Miami heat guard Terry Rozier, former NBA player 1908 01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:05,599 Speaker 4: and NBA assistant Damon Jones. The cliff Notes version of this, 1909 01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:10,400 Speaker 4: the insider betting involved those individuals defrauding people for over 1910 01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:13,559 Speaker 4: a two year period based on betting information they were 1911 01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:18,320 Speaker 4: getting from insider information from NBA players and teams, non 1912 01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:21,519 Speaker 4: public information that they were then using on who was 1913 01:35:21,560 --> 01:35:23,840 Speaker 4: going to set out future games, who with leap games 1914 01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:27,400 Speaker 4: early based on injuries or illness that was used for 1915 01:35:27,479 --> 01:35:31,599 Speaker 4: betting purposes at least once. Those involved in the arrest 1916 01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:36,400 Speaker 4: allegedly got their information by threatening John tay Porter, who 1917 01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:39,040 Speaker 4: was a Toronto raptor in twenty twenty three and twenty 1918 01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:41,600 Speaker 4: twenty four when he was banned by the NBA for 1919 01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:45,280 Speaker 4: violating policies. They threatened him because of his pre existing 1920 01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:48,400 Speaker 4: gambling debts. We need information from you to bet on 1921 01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:51,479 Speaker 4: other games because you owe us money. There's also the 1922 01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:57,320 Speaker 4: reaged illegal poker games that fleeced victims of millions of dollars, 1923 01:35:58,080 --> 01:36:02,640 Speaker 4: backed by the mafia, the Banana, the Gambino, and the 1924 01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:07,919 Speaker 4: Jen Jenna Jenna BCI organized crime families that had control 1925 01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:11,759 Speaker 4: over these and were using According to the reports, Chauncey Billups, 1926 01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:14,040 Speaker 4: the head coach of the Portland Drama Blazers, as the 1927 01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:17,840 Speaker 4: face of these illegal gambling rings to attract players to 1928 01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:18,360 Speaker 4: the table. 1929 01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:20,040 Speaker 3: I mean, you can't. This is like a movie. 1930 01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:22,680 Speaker 6: It's like they're separate but still intertwined. Yes. 1931 01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:26,080 Speaker 5: Yes, because Chauncey Billups was involved in both ends and 1932 01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:27,320 Speaker 5: bost angles of it. 1933 01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:31,479 Speaker 6: Here's what I can't understand. So Rozier has made one 1934 01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:34,519 Speaker 6: hundred and sixty million dollars, looked it up in his 1935 01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:38,000 Speaker 6: NBA career, and he's and he's doing this. 1936 01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:43,080 Speaker 4: Why yeah, I and I run through the scenarios in 1937 01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:47,920 Speaker 4: my head, and I could, I could kind of understand 1938 01:36:47,960 --> 01:36:52,120 Speaker 4: if you were a player or someone like him. You think, man, 1939 01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:55,640 Speaker 4: there are so many opportunities gambling wise today. And I 1940 01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:58,920 Speaker 4: see things and I hear things, and I ought to 1941 01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:00,320 Speaker 4: be able to take that and. 1942 01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:03,840 Speaker 3: Turn it into information or pass it on to a front. 1943 01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:07,000 Speaker 4: And as I said, what what is staggering to me 1944 01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:10,160 Speaker 4: among many things in here, just from the the sports 1945 01:37:10,200 --> 01:37:14,919 Speaker 4: gambling betting on game standpoint, if it is so closely 1946 01:37:15,080 --> 01:37:17,320 Speaker 4: monitored now, and I guess the good is in this 1947 01:37:17,479 --> 01:37:20,639 Speaker 4: coming out is it's because it's legal and above ground, 1948 01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:25,280 Speaker 4: it's monitors and there's spotlights on it, and when suspicious 1949 01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:28,439 Speaker 4: activity takes place, red flags go up and flash. And 1950 01:37:28,479 --> 01:37:31,320 Speaker 4: that's how stuff like this gets identified. If back in 1951 01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:34,760 Speaker 4: the day it was back alleys and barroom corners and 1952 01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:37,920 Speaker 4: it was bags of cash and baseball bats to your knees, 1953 01:37:38,120 --> 01:37:40,960 Speaker 4: at least it's exposed and monitored. So if you make 1954 01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:44,200 Speaker 4: a transaction that's suspicious, it's going to pop up. If 1955 01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:46,960 Speaker 4: somebody tries to, you know, drop twenty five thousand on 1956 01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:50,240 Speaker 4: a prop bed, if somebody scoring x amount of points 1957 01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:53,400 Speaker 4: or somebody free throws, that is going to pop up 1958 01:37:53,439 --> 01:37:56,920 Speaker 4: as something's up here and yet it's still being done. 1959 01:37:57,720 --> 01:38:00,000 Speaker 5: That's the thing is that if you had the discipline 1960 01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:03,599 Speaker 5: and to just bet in a mound that didn't attract, yes, 1961 01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:06,400 Speaker 5: you could probably keep doing this forever if you could 1962 01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:08,040 Speaker 5: be happy with a thousand. 1963 01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:11,680 Speaker 6: But it's only human nature to go yeah, it'd be 1964 01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:12,120 Speaker 6: and you. 1965 01:38:12,040 --> 01:38:14,160 Speaker 5: Know what, and you probably do that for a couple 1966 01:38:14,200 --> 01:38:16,920 Speaker 5: of times, ten times, and you're like, well, wait a minute. 1967 01:38:18,040 --> 01:38:20,559 Speaker 5: You start looking at like, I'm not, you know, lose, 1968 01:38:20,680 --> 01:38:23,880 Speaker 5: I'm not winning a thousand, I'm losing ten thousand because 1969 01:38:23,880 --> 01:38:25,040 Speaker 5: it could be better better. 1970 01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:28,160 Speaker 4: Now, now, explain that you were showing me the video 1971 01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:33,080 Speaker 4: the illegal poker games. I mean, you talk about high 1972 01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:36,680 Speaker 4: tech and what they're doing to to skew these well, and. 1973 01:38:36,920 --> 01:38:39,240 Speaker 6: Then you're talking about all the entities involved here. 1974 01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:43,360 Speaker 5: I mean you're talking decks of cards that had you 1975 01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:45,960 Speaker 5: could put on these like sunglasses looking things, look like 1976 01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:48,000 Speaker 5: X ray goggles, and they would tell you what it was. 1977 01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:50,880 Speaker 5: A King of Heart cards could see yeah, cards flat down, 1978 01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:53,840 Speaker 5: face down on the table. But you I guess, like 1979 01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:57,799 Speaker 5: some sort of watermark or a you know, I almost 1980 01:38:57,840 --> 01:38:59,639 Speaker 5: like like a black light kind of situation. 1981 01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:00,400 Speaker 3: You can see it. 1982 01:39:00,439 --> 01:39:04,000 Speaker 6: I heard also read there's like contact lenses that could 1983 01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:08,120 Speaker 6: do and the the uh the sho I never go 1984 01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:10,040 Speaker 6: to automax shufflers. That's roll number one. 1985 01:39:10,120 --> 01:39:10,680 Speaker 10: You never do that. 1986 01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:12,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1987 01:39:12,240 --> 01:39:16,439 Speaker 5: But also like like cameras inside, like the chip trays yep, 1988 01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:18,120 Speaker 5: I mean just. 1989 01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:19,880 Speaker 3: The defend movie stuff. 1990 01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:23,400 Speaker 4: The defendants allegedly used high tech cheating technology to steal 1991 01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:28,639 Speaker 4: millions of dollars from victims in secretly fixed underground poker games, 1992 01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:31,920 Speaker 4: with the head coach of the Portland Trailblazers as the 1993 01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:38,680 Speaker 4: face to attract the big players to the tables. 1994 01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:39,160 Speaker 6: Here, Like I know, football coaches, they don't have a 1995 01:39:39,240 --> 01:39:43,439 Speaker 6: waking second right to like where how is he going 1996 01:39:43,479 --> 01:39:46,360 Speaker 6: to poker matches and yeah, and doing all this stuff 1997 01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:48,360 Speaker 6: like that'd be the first red flag is wait, manue, 1998 01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:49,200 Speaker 6: how come we're not well? 1999 01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:51,920 Speaker 4: And the real scary part of this the John tay 2000 01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:56,160 Speaker 4: Porter aspect of getting information from a player. 2001 01:39:56,120 --> 01:39:58,639 Speaker 3: Who was being squeezed, who had. 2002 01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:02,400 Speaker 4: Been gambling, had clear lost money, was in debt, and 2003 01:40:02,439 --> 01:40:04,559 Speaker 4: then when you're in debt to them and they start 2004 01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:07,600 Speaker 4: tightening screws and they say we need the money tomorrow 2005 01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:10,280 Speaker 4: at five, and you say I don't have it, then 2006 01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:13,160 Speaker 4: their idea is, all right, then what can you offer us? 2007 01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:17,439 Speaker 4: Give us insider information on Friday nights game, give us 2008 01:40:17,479 --> 01:40:19,400 Speaker 4: something we can use, and then. 2009 01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:20,120 Speaker 6: Then they show you. 2010 01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:22,920 Speaker 5: They show you, well, here's three pieces of information that 2011 01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:27,080 Speaker 5: you'll find interesting. These are all receipts of you engaging 2012 01:40:27,120 --> 01:40:28,000 Speaker 5: in a legal yes. 2013 01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:32,720 Speaker 4: And Damon Jones, the former NBA player, was also a 2014 01:40:32,840 --> 01:40:34,960 Speaker 4: I don't know he was a volunteer assistant, but he 2015 01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:37,880 Speaker 4: was somehow involved on the staff with the Lakers, who, 2016 01:40:37,960 --> 01:40:41,080 Speaker 4: according to the text and the transcripts, at one point 2017 01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:44,639 Speaker 4: was sending text to individuals saying bet and I think 2018 01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:47,559 Speaker 4: the Lakers are playing the Spurs or whoever the Lakers 2019 01:40:47,560 --> 01:40:50,280 Speaker 4: are playing. He was saying and capital letters bet the 2020 01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:54,479 Speaker 4: other team because he knew Lebron was not going to play. 2021 01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:57,680 Speaker 4: It wasn't public knowledge yet, but he knew as being 2022 01:40:57,720 --> 01:41:00,840 Speaker 4: part of the organization Lebron wasn't playing. Passes all that 2023 01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:04,680 Speaker 4: information and major money was bad. Now that went right there. 2024 01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:09,080 Speaker 5: Well, you just said, I have to imagine happens more 2025 01:41:09,160 --> 01:41:12,479 Speaker 5: than possibly more than you possibly think, because look, if 2026 01:41:12,479 --> 01:41:14,840 Speaker 5: you're a player on a team, and I've been there, 2027 01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:17,880 Speaker 5: like in a Titans locker room, I know. 2028 01:41:18,040 --> 01:41:20,599 Speaker 6: That Steve McNair is not playing in that game. 2029 01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:23,920 Speaker 5: But but it's not on the official injury board, it's 2030 01:41:23,960 --> 01:41:27,400 Speaker 5: not out there. But that's that's kind of important information 2031 01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:29,200 Speaker 5: that if the right people got it. And I think 2032 01:41:29,240 --> 01:41:32,840 Speaker 5: with with everything happening online, it's just adding an extra 2033 01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:37,840 Speaker 5: layer of like obscurity. Yes, and and players can kind 2034 01:41:37,880 --> 01:41:40,920 Speaker 5: of justify to themselves and you call your buddy and say, hey, look, 2035 01:41:42,080 --> 01:41:45,160 Speaker 5: by the way, you might want to know that this this, 2036 01:41:45,160 --> 01:41:47,080 Speaker 5: this guy's out and that guy's out kind of thing, 2037 01:41:47,120 --> 01:41:48,720 Speaker 5: and and then it can go from there. 2038 01:41:49,080 --> 01:41:51,240 Speaker 3: Man, oh man, this thing just getting started. 2039 01:41:51,479 --> 01:41:55,000 Speaker 6: Well tomorrow there's gonna be just wait, all right. 2040 01:41:54,920 --> 01:41:56,200 Speaker 3: Let's get a check on news. 2041 01:41:56,240 --> 01:41:59,280 Speaker 4: We'll come back to our college football weekend preview, maybe 2042 01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:01,800 Speaker 4: talk ping pong, tables in the locker room and more. 2043 01:42:02,120 --> 01:42:05,280 Speaker 4: C Cincinnati Tax Resolution powered by top Sheldon Round Table Show, 2044 01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:08,320 Speaker 4: Long Necks in Richwood presented by Postman Law seven hundred 2045 01:42:08,439 --> 01:42:14,879 Speaker 4: WLW eight thirty seven seven hundred WLW SINCINNTI Tax Resolution 2046 01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:18,280 Speaker 4: powered by taf Sheldon Round Table Show Long Necks in Richwood. 2047 01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:21,400 Speaker 4: Rerec you in part by Osbord Blood Centers Hocksbord Donner 2048 01:42:21,439 --> 01:42:23,639 Speaker 4: saved lives close to home. 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Brendan Soresby first 2071 01:43:36,840 --> 01:43:41,680 Speaker 4: in the nation in total touchdowns with twenty four, and 2072 01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:45,719 Speaker 4: Baylor Sawyer Robertson second in the country with twenty three. 2073 01:43:45,880 --> 01:43:48,439 Speaker 4: Robertson leads the nation in passing yards per game three 2074 01:43:48,600 --> 01:43:51,760 Speaker 4: thirty nine and touchdown passes that should be a good 2075 01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:55,639 Speaker 4: one and a high scoring one Saturday at Nippert. Number 2076 01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:58,040 Speaker 4: one Ohio State has the weekend off before hosting Penn 2077 01:43:58,120 --> 01:44:01,240 Speaker 4: State next weekend. Kentucky remained home for a border battle 2078 01:44:01,240 --> 01:44:04,280 Speaker 4: against Number seventeen Tennessee. That's a seven to forty five kick. 2079 01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:07,160 Speaker 4: Last opportunity for Big Blue Nation to hit both Keeland 2080 01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:10,200 Speaker 4: and football on the same day. Tennessee has a four 2081 01:44:10,240 --> 01:44:13,160 Speaker 4: game win streak over Kentucky. Miami puts its four game 2082 01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:16,519 Speaker 4: win streak on the line versus Western Michigan kickoff three thirty. 2083 01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:17,400 Speaker 3: It's family weekend. 2084 01:44:17,479 --> 01:44:20,360 Speaker 4: It's also their cancer awareness game, and last week's went 2085 01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:23,360 Speaker 4: over Eastern Michigan. The red Hawks time of possession was 2086 01:44:23,680 --> 01:44:27,280 Speaker 4: forty two minutes, a record in the Chuck Martin era, 2087 01:44:27,680 --> 01:44:32,360 Speaker 4: including a monster twenty play scoring drive for the Red Hawks. 2088 01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:34,560 Speaker 4: Notre Dame gets the weekend off before shipping up to 2089 01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:38,840 Speaker 4: Boston to take on Boston College. Jerem Love two twenty 2090 01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:43,960 Speaker 4: eight yards rushing man last week. Yeah, nice comeback for 2091 01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:47,519 Speaker 4: your Irish under the lights in South Bed. Number two 2092 01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:50,400 Speaker 4: Indiana takes on UCLA for a noon kick in Bloomington. 2093 01:44:50,439 --> 01:44:53,320 Speaker 4: The Bruins have won three straight under interim coach Tim Skipper. 2094 01:44:53,560 --> 01:44:56,720 Speaker 4: The Hoosiers didn't punt last week against Michigan State. It's 2095 01:44:56,760 --> 01:44:59,120 Speaker 4: the first Big Ten game they didn't have a punt 2096 01:44:59,160 --> 01:45:01,120 Speaker 4: since nineteen eighty nine. 2097 01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:03,120 Speaker 3: After back to back road games. 2098 01:45:03,160 --> 01:45:06,320 Speaker 4: Purdue comes home to face Wreckers in the Boilermakers' annual 2099 01:45:06,360 --> 01:45:09,559 Speaker 4: homecoming game number nineteen. Louisville back home and ranked for 2100 01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:12,920 Speaker 4: the first time this season, The Cards host Boston College. 2101 01:45:13,120 --> 01:45:16,439 Speaker 4: Louisville's defense ranked number ten in the country and knocked 2102 01:45:16,479 --> 01:45:20,479 Speaker 4: off Miami last week. Watchet Hurricanes Hyle Bobcats hit the 2103 01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:22,880 Speaker 4: road to face the Eastern Michigan Thomas Moore travels to 2104 01:45:22,960 --> 01:45:26,160 Speaker 4: North Campton, Ohio. They'll take on Walsh University, and it's 2105 01:45:26,200 --> 01:45:29,680 Speaker 4: homecoming for Mount Saint Joe versus Franklin. How are you 2106 01:45:29,680 --> 01:45:31,360 Speaker 4: feeling about your Irish feeling better? 2107 01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:32,080 Speaker 3: Feel good? 2108 01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:36,519 Speaker 6: I mean went out which knock on wood is doable? 2109 01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:39,120 Speaker 3: For sure? I think they're in all right. 2110 01:45:39,320 --> 01:45:43,439 Speaker 4: A couple of other topics beyond our gambling hot topic 2111 01:45:43,479 --> 01:45:45,960 Speaker 4: around the NFL. I'd be interested in your thoughts on. 2112 01:45:46,080 --> 01:45:49,240 Speaker 4: There is a situation and folding with the Baltimore Ravens. 2113 01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:51,960 Speaker 4: It plays out often, has played out often over the years. 2114 01:45:51,960 --> 01:45:54,400 Speaker 4: When teams are not playing well and they're struggling, they 2115 01:45:54,400 --> 01:45:57,800 Speaker 4: look for things to maybe change the focus. In this 2116 01:45:57,960 --> 01:46:03,839 Speaker 4: case the Baltimore Ravens. The initial report was coach's decision. 2117 01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:06,879 Speaker 4: It's since come out. It was really the veteran player's decision. 2118 01:46:07,200 --> 01:46:10,800 Speaker 4: Whoever made the decision. The Baltimore Ravens have removed from 2119 01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:15,160 Speaker 4: their locker room the ping pong tables, the cornhole boards, 2120 01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:20,560 Speaker 4: the basketball hoop, the pinball machine, and the video game consoles. 2121 01:46:21,120 --> 01:46:24,320 Speaker 4: Rock your reaction to the one and five Baltimore Ravens 2122 01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:27,559 Speaker 4: pulling out all the stops to refocus the troops by 2123 01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:30,720 Speaker 4: eliminating all the fun stuff in the locker room. 2124 01:46:30,479 --> 01:46:33,200 Speaker 6: I'm for it. I don't think I would have it 2125 01:46:33,240 --> 01:46:34,080 Speaker 6: in there to begin with. 2126 01:46:34,479 --> 01:46:36,559 Speaker 4: Did you ever have did the call? Did Tony Dungey 2127 01:46:36,640 --> 01:46:38,920 Speaker 4: ever have ping pong tables and cornhole boards? 2128 01:46:39,080 --> 01:46:42,559 Speaker 5: No gods have like video game consoles. But you know, 2129 01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:44,920 Speaker 5: really that was just Dawhite Freeny that played it all 2130 01:46:44,920 --> 01:46:50,400 Speaker 5: the time. He was good and so it didn't matter. Yeah, 2131 01:46:49,880 --> 01:46:51,320 Speaker 5: never was on. 2132 01:46:51,280 --> 01:46:53,639 Speaker 6: A team that had had any of that stuff. So yeah, 2133 01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:56,240 Speaker 6: I didn't have to worry about it. But I just 2134 01:46:56,280 --> 01:46:58,760 Speaker 6: feel like, especially now guys have their phones. Everyone's in 2135 01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:02,400 Speaker 6: their locker of their phones. I have one more thing 2136 01:47:02,479 --> 01:47:06,000 Speaker 6: that's a distraction. I mean, you're here at work, we'll 2137 01:47:06,000 --> 01:47:08,240 Speaker 6: get you in, we'll get you out. I just don't think, 2138 01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:10,439 Speaker 6: you know, you can play corn hole on your own time. 2139 01:47:11,479 --> 01:47:15,120 Speaker 4: My thought would be, having considered the workplace, I think 2140 01:47:15,800 --> 01:47:20,400 Speaker 4: our station could use a ping pong table and a 2141 01:47:20,439 --> 01:47:23,559 Speaker 4: basketball hoop and some cornhole boards. But at that area 2142 01:47:23,560 --> 01:47:26,160 Speaker 4: when we walk in it's kind of open space. We 2143 01:47:26,200 --> 01:47:29,040 Speaker 4: can put up a basketball hoop, cornhole boards. 2144 01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:32,639 Speaker 6: Lance, we're just trying to get coffee cups and coffee. 2145 01:47:33,560 --> 01:47:35,880 Speaker 4: I could see you and Eddie like during the bottom 2146 01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:38,240 Speaker 4: of the hour news go out and toss some cornhole bags. 2147 01:47:39,120 --> 01:47:40,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got to do something take up with some 2148 01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:44,519 Speaker 3: of that space. That's the room for a little like 2149 01:47:44,600 --> 01:47:49,320 Speaker 3: golden tea and gold guy. Yeah, I haven't played in 2150 01:47:49,360 --> 01:47:49,639 Speaker 3: a while. 2151 01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:58,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, time, and there there is there was what yeah. 2152 01:47:56,040 --> 01:47:57,240 Speaker 5: You know that could be a good I mean like 2153 01:47:57,280 --> 01:47:59,880 Speaker 5: once like a team building activity or something, but not 2154 01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:00,519 Speaker 5: all the time. 2155 01:48:02,240 --> 01:48:09,280 Speaker 4: Seven seven hundred WLW Cornhole Tournament Tournament, Live on the air, 2156 01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:13,840 Speaker 4: five on the air. One other note for one other 2157 01:48:13,880 --> 01:48:16,639 Speaker 4: note from the NFL, What do you make of this? 2158 01:48:17,320 --> 01:48:20,679 Speaker 4: They've done so much in changing the kickoffs over the years, 2159 01:48:20,680 --> 01:48:22,760 Speaker 4: you know, the kickoff, and then it was concussions and 2160 01:48:23,000 --> 01:48:24,880 Speaker 4: too much collision and we got to change it, and 2161 01:48:24,880 --> 01:48:27,000 Speaker 4: then nothing was happening on kickoffs, and then they changed 2162 01:48:27,000 --> 01:48:29,720 Speaker 4: it again and now the kickoff is back, but one 2163 01:48:29,760 --> 01:48:33,479 Speaker 4: thing that's not back is the on side kick. This 2164 01:48:33,560 --> 01:48:36,360 Speaker 4: season there have been and the on side kick has 2165 01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:39,000 Speaker 4: been reduced to the no surprise on sidekick. You have 2166 01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:40,800 Speaker 4: to tell the other team we're going to try it 2167 01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:42,760 Speaker 4: on side kick, so be ready for that's part of 2168 01:48:42,800 --> 01:48:45,519 Speaker 4: the rule, so it's no surprise. There have been twenty 2169 01:48:45,560 --> 01:48:48,280 Speaker 4: one on side kick attempts this year. There has been 2170 01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:52,599 Speaker 4: one recovered by the kicking team. That's a four point 2171 01:48:52,800 --> 01:48:56,960 Speaker 4: seven percent recovery rate Rockey following me, four point seven percent. 2172 01:48:58,200 --> 01:49:01,559 Speaker 4: League sources say the league would prefer the rate to 2173 01:49:01,600 --> 01:49:05,080 Speaker 4: be about twelve percent. They like a little bit more, 2174 01:49:05,240 --> 01:49:07,160 Speaker 4: not too much, but a little bit more to at 2175 01:49:07,240 --> 01:49:10,040 Speaker 4: least give teams a chance and add to the excitement 2176 01:49:10,040 --> 01:49:12,720 Speaker 4: of the play. So they say twelve percent would be 2177 01:49:12,760 --> 01:49:15,439 Speaker 4: in their ballpark. If you go back from two thoy 2178 01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:18,960 Speaker 4: through twenty seventeen, the on side recovery rate was pushing 2179 01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:21,960 Speaker 4: twenty percent. It was getting up there, but it has 2180 01:49:22,040 --> 01:49:23,400 Speaker 4: dropped obviously dramatically. 2181 01:49:23,479 --> 01:49:24,200 Speaker 3: There is an. 2182 01:49:24,000 --> 01:49:27,360 Speaker 4: Option that John Elway when he was at the Broncos 2183 01:49:27,360 --> 01:49:30,439 Speaker 4: in their in their general manager role. He had floated 2184 01:49:30,479 --> 01:49:34,439 Speaker 4: the idea which is now resurfacing again. And the idea 2185 01:49:34,479 --> 01:49:37,920 Speaker 4: would be in lieu of the on side kick. If 2186 01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:40,759 Speaker 4: you score late, pull within you know, ten points or whatever, 2187 01:49:40,840 --> 01:49:42,599 Speaker 4: with two minutes to go and you want to try 2188 01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:46,639 Speaker 4: an on side kick, that would be replaced by one play. 2189 01:49:47,479 --> 01:49:51,880 Speaker 4: You get to attempt a fourth and fifteen and I 2190 01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:54,360 Speaker 4: forget yard line that would that would be I guess 2191 01:49:54,360 --> 01:49:57,559 Speaker 4: if you at the thirty five twenty twenty five. So 2192 01:49:57,600 --> 01:50:00,640 Speaker 4: they say, all right, light in liu ait onsite. You 2193 01:50:00,720 --> 01:50:04,400 Speaker 4: get one snap a fourth and fifteen. If you make it, 2194 01:50:04,560 --> 01:50:07,080 Speaker 4: you keep the possession and get to continue your drive. 2195 01:50:07,400 --> 01:50:09,719 Speaker 4: If you don't, if you failed, the other team takes 2196 01:50:09,760 --> 01:50:13,960 Speaker 4: over at that spot. Is that the school of thought 2197 01:50:14,120 --> 01:50:18,360 Speaker 4: is it's too gimmicky for some of the league. And 2198 01:50:18,720 --> 01:50:21,200 Speaker 4: the other thought is how much of that is going 2199 01:50:21,280 --> 01:50:24,520 Speaker 4: to turn into a conversion based on a pass interference 2200 01:50:24,960 --> 01:50:28,679 Speaker 4: that you didn't truly convert the fourth and fifteen without 2201 01:50:28,680 --> 01:50:31,320 Speaker 4: the penalty being called on the defense pass interference? 2202 01:50:31,680 --> 01:50:33,960 Speaker 6: Does this is the thing I would worry about, yea 2203 01:50:34,040 --> 01:50:35,599 Speaker 6: pass interference, you know, the. 2204 01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:39,160 Speaker 4: Classic underthrown and the defender runs into the receiver and. 2205 01:50:39,640 --> 01:50:42,320 Speaker 6: Way I remind you of I'm trying to look this up. 2206 01:50:43,040 --> 01:50:46,120 Speaker 6: Doesn't the UFL do that that? 2207 01:50:46,200 --> 01:50:50,000 Speaker 4: I don't I think. I want to say they to 2208 01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:53,360 Speaker 4: more consider it. I think, I think because I think 2209 01:50:53,439 --> 01:50:55,760 Speaker 4: that was part of the original argument. The NFL will 2210 01:50:55,800 --> 01:50:58,519 Speaker 4: never do it because they that league does it, and 2211 01:50:58,560 --> 01:51:01,360 Speaker 4: the NFL doesn't like admitting other things work in other leagues. 2212 01:51:01,520 --> 01:51:04,160 Speaker 3: So I think they may use it in that league. 2213 01:51:04,240 --> 01:51:04,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, but didn't. 2214 01:51:06,600 --> 01:51:09,200 Speaker 5: But but didn't the the new age kickoff come from 2215 01:51:09,280 --> 01:51:11,040 Speaker 5: the UFL as well? 2216 01:51:12,120 --> 01:51:13,640 Speaker 3: Maybe? I think so. 2217 01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:15,679 Speaker 6: I think that was a trial. 2218 01:51:15,880 --> 01:51:18,519 Speaker 4: Well, remember at one point which league wasn't remember, they 2219 01:51:18,560 --> 01:51:20,000 Speaker 4: just put the ball in the middle of the field 2220 01:51:20,200 --> 01:51:22,160 Speaker 4: and had two guys start on the opposite ends and 2221 01:51:22,200 --> 01:51:24,160 Speaker 4: the go and it was a run to the center 2222 01:51:24,200 --> 01:51:25,920 Speaker 4: of the field and the scrum and whoever recovered the 2223 01:51:25,960 --> 01:51:26,559 Speaker 4: ball got it. 2224 01:51:27,040 --> 01:51:28,680 Speaker 6: I remember that when in the World League was it 2225 01:51:28,720 --> 01:51:31,000 Speaker 6: the World League or no, the XFL, there was no 2226 01:51:31,080 --> 01:51:33,120 Speaker 6: fair catches. I do remember that that was. 2227 01:51:33,880 --> 01:51:37,200 Speaker 4: So for I understand that the gimmicky side of it. 2228 01:51:37,320 --> 01:51:43,320 Speaker 4: I understand the drama, the intrigue of watching that type. 2229 01:51:43,439 --> 01:51:45,519 Speaker 4: I mean, I guess I think it's weird they call 2230 01:51:45,560 --> 01:51:47,960 Speaker 4: it a fourth and fifteen or fourth and twenty. Alternay, 2231 01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:50,200 Speaker 4: it's really not a fourth day, it's just a it's 2232 01:51:50,200 --> 01:51:52,920 Speaker 4: a play, one shot, it's one play, So I don't 2233 01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:55,320 Speaker 4: know why they call it a fourth down. I did 2234 01:51:55,360 --> 01:52:00,200 Speaker 4: see this NFL data. Take this for what it's worth. 2235 01:52:00,720 --> 01:52:03,840 Speaker 4: The numbers indicate the success rate of a fourth and 2236 01:52:04,040 --> 01:52:08,639 Speaker 4: seventeen play is twelve percent, So the league is looking 2237 01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:11,799 Speaker 4: for something closer to a twelve percent recovery rate. Fourth 2238 01:52:11,840 --> 01:52:15,760 Speaker 4: and seventeen delivers the rate most often. That would be 2239 01:52:15,800 --> 01:52:17,120 Speaker 4: what the league is looking for. 2240 01:52:18,720 --> 01:52:20,720 Speaker 5: I just wish there was I know there's not a 2241 01:52:20,760 --> 01:52:22,360 Speaker 5: way to do it because of the nature of it, 2242 01:52:22,400 --> 01:52:25,880 Speaker 5: but a way to allow there to be a yess. 2243 01:52:26,160 --> 01:52:28,040 Speaker 6: Yes, I don't love the new kick. 2244 01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:31,639 Speaker 5: I understand that it's allowed more kicks to be returned, 2245 01:52:31,640 --> 01:52:34,680 Speaker 5: and that's not the hearing r there. But yeah, and 2246 01:52:34,760 --> 01:52:38,240 Speaker 5: you have to, you know, signal that you're going for. 2247 01:52:38,439 --> 01:52:39,320 Speaker 5: That takes away that it. 2248 01:52:39,360 --> 01:52:41,280 Speaker 3: Defends the purposely on side kick. 2249 01:52:42,240 --> 01:52:42,639 Speaker 6: I don't know. 2250 01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:44,640 Speaker 4: Where do you fall? Do you think the fourth and 2251 01:52:44,800 --> 01:52:47,559 Speaker 4: seventeen is? I get the drama of it. I also 2252 01:52:47,640 --> 01:52:52,920 Speaker 4: understand how gimmicky it appears. I mean, can you imagine 2253 01:52:52,920 --> 01:52:57,879 Speaker 4: a scenario where the Bengals pull within whatever a touchdown 2254 01:52:57,920 --> 01:53:01,479 Speaker 4: with a minute to go, and this is in play, 2255 01:53:01,760 --> 01:53:04,439 Speaker 4: and I'd like my chances of Joe Burrow or Joe 2256 01:53:04,479 --> 01:53:09,599 Speaker 4: Flacco lining up with Higgins and Chase and Yoshi and saying, guys, 2257 01:53:09,600 --> 01:53:13,000 Speaker 4: we've got one shot here, fourth and seventeen, fourth and 2258 01:53:13,040 --> 01:53:15,400 Speaker 4: twenty whatever it is, take your chances. 2259 01:53:16,520 --> 01:53:19,799 Speaker 5: I mean, the NFL has always not been shy about 2260 01:53:19,920 --> 01:53:22,840 Speaker 5: changing things. Remember we go to the pat and yep, 2261 01:53:23,160 --> 01:53:27,000 Speaker 5: it's I understand this is an entertainment situation. And if that, 2262 01:53:27,400 --> 01:53:31,960 Speaker 5: I mean my college game last night. If if MTSU scores, 2263 01:53:32,080 --> 01:53:34,040 Speaker 5: you know there, they could go for the on side kick, 2264 01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:35,760 Speaker 5: and they did go for the onside kick. 2265 01:53:37,040 --> 01:53:38,840 Speaker 6: So there was some, you know, a little element of 2266 01:53:39,160 --> 01:53:39,880 Speaker 6: drama to that. 2267 01:53:40,040 --> 01:53:44,800 Speaker 4: So it will be discussed at the owners meeting. I 2268 01:53:44,880 --> 01:53:47,040 Speaker 4: think that's next week. I would come out. 2269 01:53:47,080 --> 01:53:49,040 Speaker 6: I would love to hear a third option, you know 2270 01:53:49,040 --> 01:53:49,360 Speaker 6: what I mean. 2271 01:53:49,800 --> 01:53:52,960 Speaker 3: That's not a bad idea. Yeah, something I don't know. 2272 01:53:53,000 --> 01:53:58,519 Speaker 4: Less gimmicky, but still dramatic. Right right, all right, we 2273 01:53:58,600 --> 01:54:02,160 Speaker 4: come back. Let's discuss your marathon game last night, and 2274 01:54:02,600 --> 01:54:06,479 Speaker 4: let's discuss Joe Flacco and Delaware and how his presence 2275 01:54:07,040 --> 01:54:09,360 Speaker 4: is very much felt around there. If we do that, 2276 01:54:09,800 --> 01:54:12,240 Speaker 4: he's Rocky. I'm Lance down the stretch we go. Final 2277 01:54:12,240 --> 01:54:15,439 Speaker 4: segment coming up. We're at Longneck in Richwood. It's the 2278 01:54:15,439 --> 01:54:18,679 Speaker 4: Cincinnati tex Resolution Power by Tope Sheldon Round Table Show 2279 01:54:19,040 --> 01:54:23,120 Speaker 4: presented by Postman Law seven hundred WLW. From a stretch 2280 01:54:23,240 --> 01:54:25,760 Speaker 4: to nine o'clock a news time. After that it'll be 2281 01:54:26,200 --> 01:54:30,360 Speaker 4: Dan Carroll. I do believe. From nine to midnight, it 2282 01:54:30,479 --> 01:54:33,640 Speaker 4: is time to travel Rockies Road. Brought to you by 2283 01:54:33,760 --> 01:54:36,840 Speaker 4: Queen City Metro. Metro is hiring apply a go dash 2284 01:54:36,920 --> 01:54:42,800 Speaker 4: Metro dot Com slash Careers. You have traveled already this 2285 01:54:42,880 --> 01:54:46,440 Speaker 4: week and called a game last night. 2286 01:54:46,520 --> 01:54:48,360 Speaker 3: It seemingly would not end. 2287 01:54:49,000 --> 01:54:51,560 Speaker 6: It took about four hours and it's it's due to 2288 01:54:51,840 --> 01:54:53,960 Speaker 6: and it was who For those who didn't watch the 2289 01:54:54,120 --> 01:54:57,520 Speaker 6: MTSU at Delaware Delaware cool story. 2290 01:54:57,840 --> 01:55:01,920 Speaker 5: Their first year in the FPS. They've been a FCS powerhouse. 2291 01:55:01,400 --> 01:55:03,200 Speaker 6: For for for a for. 2292 01:55:03,160 --> 01:55:06,200 Speaker 5: A while, won some a bunch of titles back in 2293 01:55:06,240 --> 01:55:08,000 Speaker 5: the nineties, two thousands, that. 2294 01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:08,400 Speaker 6: Kind of thing. 2295 01:55:09,480 --> 01:55:12,600 Speaker 5: But now in their first year and in conference USA 2296 01:55:12,720 --> 01:55:14,160 Speaker 5: are playing well. 2297 01:55:14,480 --> 01:55:16,839 Speaker 6: And yeah, and the game. 2298 01:55:16,720 --> 01:55:20,600 Speaker 5: Took forever because of because of reviews and referees and 2299 01:55:20,680 --> 01:55:23,480 Speaker 5: flags that again, the one one that had me was 2300 01:55:23,840 --> 01:55:27,600 Speaker 5: there was no penalty called the booth calls down, says, hey. 2301 01:55:27,480 --> 01:55:30,640 Speaker 6: We think there's a penalty. They review it and say, no, 2302 01:55:30,680 --> 01:55:32,120 Speaker 6: there wasn't a penalty after all. 2303 01:55:32,440 --> 01:55:33,400 Speaker 3: You gotta be kidding me. 2304 01:55:33,880 --> 01:55:35,280 Speaker 6: That's that's stupid. 2305 01:55:35,520 --> 01:55:38,720 Speaker 4: And Troy Aikman said, uh, what of officiating and the 2306 01:55:38,720 --> 01:55:39,560 Speaker 4: impact on games? 2307 01:55:39,560 --> 01:55:41,040 Speaker 3: Oh, it was during the Bengals game. 2308 01:55:41,600 --> 01:55:44,760 Speaker 6: I think it was. I just remember him saying, he said, 2309 01:55:44,800 --> 01:55:45,520 Speaker 6: nothing will. 2310 01:55:45,440 --> 01:55:49,160 Speaker 5: Ruin a broadcast faster than those yellow flags. 2311 01:55:49,480 --> 01:55:50,480 Speaker 3: And it's it's truth. 2312 01:55:50,480 --> 01:55:56,200 Speaker 5: And and I always complained that, you know, referees, they 2313 01:55:56,240 --> 01:56:00,160 Speaker 5: don't understand like how people consume this product anymore. No 2314 01:56:00,160 --> 01:56:03,120 Speaker 5: one is sitting down and watching and leaving the channel 2315 01:56:03,160 --> 01:56:07,880 Speaker 5: on just that game, with no other entertainment venues going 2316 01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:08,360 Speaker 5: on at all. 2317 01:56:08,400 --> 01:56:09,240 Speaker 3: Everyone's sitting there. 2318 01:56:09,360 --> 01:56:11,600 Speaker 5: I would say ninety percent of people watch a game 2319 01:56:11,960 --> 01:56:14,480 Speaker 5: with their phone in their hand, and then during a 2320 01:56:14,600 --> 01:56:17,400 Speaker 5: commercial break they'll football on Netflix, they'll go over here, 2321 01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:20,360 Speaker 5: and when there's no there's laws in action, you're just 2322 01:56:20,840 --> 01:56:24,320 Speaker 5: forcing people to turn your broadcast off and possibly never 2323 01:56:24,400 --> 01:56:24,880 Speaker 5: come back. 2324 01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:25,080 Speaker 1: Well. 2325 01:56:25,120 --> 01:56:28,120 Speaker 4: And the real difficulty for me became as a former 2326 01:56:28,200 --> 01:56:31,600 Speaker 4: UC football season ticket holder, sitting in the stands at 2327 01:56:31,600 --> 01:56:35,600 Speaker 4: a game with those delays and the commercial breaks, and 2328 01:56:35,640 --> 01:56:38,040 Speaker 4: my eyes would always go to the official with the 2329 01:56:38,560 --> 01:56:41,040 Speaker 4: yardstick with the timer on top that showed how long 2330 01:56:41,080 --> 01:56:41,920 Speaker 4: the break was gonna be. 2331 01:56:41,960 --> 01:56:43,720 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, my goodness. 2332 01:56:43,640 --> 01:56:46,320 Speaker 5: Now, that's very interesting you bring that up, because one 2333 01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:49,400 Speaker 5: of the things going on now that I've both read 2334 01:56:49,440 --> 01:56:55,920 Speaker 5: about and experienced myself is the amount of students, especially fans, 2335 01:56:56,040 --> 01:56:59,880 Speaker 5: leaving college football games early. There was an LSU SU 2336 01:57:00,000 --> 01:57:03,800 Speaker 5: off Carolina game in Death Valley Places Rock and Night game, 2337 01:57:04,160 --> 01:57:06,720 Speaker 5: seven point ball game in the fourth quarter and the 2338 01:57:06,760 --> 01:57:10,720 Speaker 5: stadium is half empty. JMU last week they played ODU 2339 01:57:10,920 --> 01:57:12,880 Speaker 5: and I talked to their staff and they're like, yeah, 2340 01:57:12,880 --> 01:57:16,440 Speaker 5: the students kind of leave after halftime. And I think 2341 01:57:16,440 --> 01:57:19,080 Speaker 5: that's what's at play here is the attention span is 2342 01:57:19,080 --> 01:57:20,440 Speaker 5: out there, like I'm gonna go crazy. 2343 01:57:20,480 --> 01:57:20,800 Speaker 6: I can't. 2344 01:57:21,240 --> 01:57:25,160 Speaker 5: I can't stand, you know, having nothing to do. My 2345 01:57:25,440 --> 01:57:26,920 Speaker 5: brain needs some sort of interest. 2346 01:57:28,120 --> 01:57:31,000 Speaker 3: Ye, Joe Flacco and Delaware tell me about that. 2347 01:57:32,440 --> 01:57:35,200 Speaker 6: I mean, he's again, I said this during the broadcast. 2348 01:57:35,240 --> 01:57:38,400 Speaker 6: I don't know if there's a player more associated with 2349 01:57:38,440 --> 01:57:41,160 Speaker 6: a university than Joe Flacco, right, I mean, when you 2350 01:57:41,160 --> 01:57:43,760 Speaker 6: think of Delaware football. If you think of Delaware football, 2351 01:57:44,240 --> 01:57:46,880 Speaker 6: you go, oh, that's where Joe Flacco went, you know. 2352 01:57:46,880 --> 01:57:51,080 Speaker 5: So he's synonymous with it. He's very good to the 2353 01:57:51,640 --> 01:57:55,640 Speaker 5: very good to Delaware. There's the Joe Flacco family weight room. 2354 01:57:56,000 --> 01:57:58,760 Speaker 5: Really all sore Nex equipment. It's it's all. 2355 01:57:59,120 --> 01:58:02,200 Speaker 6: What's the coaches said is iron because when he played 2356 01:58:02,200 --> 01:58:04,960 Speaker 6: there and a lot of his NFL career until recently, 2357 01:58:05,520 --> 01:58:08,240 Speaker 6: he was not a workout guy at all. But I'm 2358 01:58:08,240 --> 01:58:11,160 Speaker 6: sure you heard him talk about how he said he's 2359 01:58:11,200 --> 01:58:14,320 Speaker 6: never felt better because he's he's doing the cold tubs 2360 01:58:14,320 --> 01:58:16,280 Speaker 6: and the hot tubs and thesaunas and the weight rooms 2361 01:58:16,320 --> 01:58:18,200 Speaker 6: and all that sort of stuff and yep, which is 2362 01:58:18,560 --> 01:58:21,080 Speaker 6: enabling him to play it at this age. But yeah, 2363 01:58:21,080 --> 01:58:22,160 Speaker 6: I thought that was funny that. 2364 01:58:22,200 --> 01:58:24,800 Speaker 5: You know, he puts a millions of dollars for a 2365 01:58:24,840 --> 01:58:26,960 Speaker 5: weight room when that was probably the last place he 2366 01:58:27,040 --> 01:58:28,200 Speaker 5: went when he was a player. 2367 01:58:28,240 --> 01:58:28,520 Speaker 3: There. 2368 01:58:29,080 --> 01:58:31,760 Speaker 4: By the way, while we're talking officiating, I don't know 2369 01:58:31,840 --> 01:58:34,560 Speaker 4: if you heard this earlier today about the SEC official. 2370 01:58:35,320 --> 01:58:40,000 Speaker 4: Veteran SEC official Ken Williamson has been permanently suspended from 2371 01:58:40,000 --> 01:58:44,120 Speaker 4: officiating conference games. The decision to remove the longtime referee 2372 01:58:44,200 --> 01:58:46,680 Speaker 4: came in the immediate week of the SEC review of 2373 01:58:46,760 --> 01:58:51,000 Speaker 4: eleven complaints against Williamson and his crew during the Auburn 2374 01:58:51,080 --> 01:58:55,200 Speaker 4: Georgia game earlier this month. According to sources, nine of 2375 01:58:55,240 --> 01:58:59,400 Speaker 4: those eleven complaints were validated by conference officials, and he 2376 01:58:59,440 --> 01:59:03,480 Speaker 4: has been permanently removed from officiating SEC games. 2377 01:59:03,640 --> 01:59:06,560 Speaker 3: How about that, I mean, do we know the instances? 2378 01:59:06,880 --> 01:59:09,080 Speaker 6: Was the things he called or things he didn't call? 2379 01:59:09,120 --> 01:59:09,160 Speaker 14: It? 2380 01:59:09,800 --> 01:59:12,120 Speaker 3: Oh, then that's a good question that I don't know. 2381 01:59:14,120 --> 01:59:16,920 Speaker 5: Because I always think that that's the reason why there's 2382 01:59:16,960 --> 01:59:20,040 Speaker 5: so many flags. Is I from what officials I've talked to, 2383 01:59:20,200 --> 01:59:23,560 Speaker 5: that you're more incentivized in your reviews to throw a 2384 01:59:23,600 --> 01:59:26,680 Speaker 5: flag and be wrong than to not throw a flag. 2385 01:59:26,440 --> 01:59:27,080 Speaker 3: And be wrong. 2386 01:59:27,280 --> 01:59:30,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that does make sense. Yeah, I'm not I 2387 01:59:30,760 --> 01:59:34,200 Speaker 4: don't see a breakdown of it. But he is done 2388 01:59:34,840 --> 01:59:37,160 Speaker 4: from the the SEC. So you do not have a 2389 01:59:37,200 --> 01:59:40,360 Speaker 4: game this weekend, but we'll travel at the start of 2390 01:59:40,400 --> 01:59:40,760 Speaker 4: the week. 2391 01:59:41,000 --> 01:59:44,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, a Tuesday night game in San Marcos, Texas, Texas 2392 01:59:44,760 --> 01:59:48,880 Speaker 5: State at or assuming jam you at Texas State, Texas State, 2393 01:59:48,960 --> 01:59:52,720 Speaker 5: and you talk about a snake bitten team. They were, 2394 01:59:53,000 --> 01:59:55,560 Speaker 5: you know, picked to be a contender in the West, 2395 01:59:55,560 --> 01:59:59,000 Speaker 5: but they've lost, you know, like two overtime games in 2396 01:59:59,040 --> 02:00:01,920 Speaker 5: the fourth quarter against Troy, Troy scored I think like 2397 02:00:02,000 --> 02:00:04,960 Speaker 5: twenty one or twenty eight points in the fourth quarter. 2398 02:00:04,720 --> 02:00:06,120 Speaker 6: To come back and win. 2399 02:00:06,240 --> 02:00:08,040 Speaker 5: So yeah, they've been kind of I haven't really had 2400 02:00:08,120 --> 02:00:11,480 Speaker 5: time to dive into them, but had JMU last week, 2401 02:00:11,520 --> 02:00:13,960 Speaker 5: and they're the real deal. I mean, they got a real, 2402 02:00:14,040 --> 02:00:17,840 Speaker 5: live defense, and they have the thing that hardly any 2403 02:00:17,880 --> 02:00:20,800 Speaker 5: teams have anymore, which is depth on their d line, 2404 02:00:20,880 --> 02:00:22,640 Speaker 5: especially they'll rotate like nine guys. 2405 02:00:23,600 --> 02:00:24,680 Speaker 6: They got this running back. 2406 02:00:24,640 --> 02:00:29,160 Speaker 5: Named Wayne Knight, who I compared to Darren Sprolls, who 2407 02:00:29,280 --> 02:00:31,160 Speaker 5: was a guy I played against so I hated playing 2408 02:00:31,200 --> 02:00:35,120 Speaker 5: against because he was, you know, five foot six, lightning quick, 2409 02:00:35,240 --> 02:00:37,440 Speaker 5: and you couldn't find him because he hide behind three 2410 02:00:37,480 --> 02:00:39,600 Speaker 5: hundred pound guys and just burst out. 2411 02:00:39,720 --> 02:00:41,280 Speaker 6: So yeah, they're they're a fun team. 2412 02:00:41,320 --> 02:00:43,600 Speaker 5: I love that Bob Chesney is the is the head 2413 02:00:43,600 --> 02:00:46,720 Speaker 5: coach of JMU. He was at Holy Cross a couple 2414 02:00:46,720 --> 02:00:51,280 Speaker 5: of years ago. I think he's gonna be a guy 2415 02:00:51,280 --> 02:00:54,879 Speaker 5: that gets a bigger job. I will certainly be offered 2416 02:00:54,880 --> 02:00:59,160 Speaker 5: bigger jobs, power forward jobs this coming year. 2417 02:00:59,520 --> 02:01:00,400 Speaker 6: We'll see he takes it. 2418 02:01:00,880 --> 02:01:05,520 Speaker 4: Our time is up time flew. Let's gather next Thursday night. 2419 02:01:05,640 --> 02:01:08,040 Speaker 4: The Bengals will have beaten the Jets. They'll be at 2420 02:01:08,080 --> 02:01:11,360 Speaker 4: the five hundred mark if they don't. If they don't, 2421 02:01:11,400 --> 02:01:13,120 Speaker 4: then we'll show up and drink. 2422 02:01:12,920 --> 02:01:17,640 Speaker 6: Heavily, heavily, heavily. It can't, no, it can't. 2423 02:01:17,880 --> 02:01:21,520 Speaker 4: If they lose, then Scott's got to hang around another 2424 02:01:21,640 --> 02:01:23,080 Speaker 4: week and Scott. 2425 02:01:22,720 --> 02:01:25,600 Speaker 3: Can do the show while we sit and eat wings. 2426 02:01:25,840 --> 02:01:28,240 Speaker 5: Now we're gonna fly to Australia, do the show and 2427 02:01:28,640 --> 02:01:30,280 Speaker 5: drink Australian beer. 2428 02:01:30,320 --> 02:01:33,760 Speaker 3: And there you go, there you go. All right, We're done. 2429 02:01:33,800 --> 02:01:36,480 Speaker 4: Thanks to h Drew western Hattie for producing. Thanks to 2430 02:01:36,480 --> 02:01:39,360 Speaker 4: Mike Mills here on the scene. Thanks to you for 2431 02:01:39,400 --> 02:01:42,280 Speaker 4: taking a listen tonight stick around. Dan Carroll's got you covered. 2432 02:01:42,360 --> 02:01:45,080 Speaker 4: After the news. This has been the Oh and don't 2433 02:01:45,080 --> 02:01:47,920 Speaker 4: forget next week. We're at the Hebrewn location next week. 2434 02:01:48,000 --> 02:01:51,200 Speaker 4: Starting next week and a run through November the Hebrew 2435 02:01:51,320 --> 02:01:54,200 Speaker 4: location for long next. This has been the Cincinnati tas 2436 02:01:54,200 --> 02:01:57,240 Speaker 4: Resolution powered by Tope Sheldon round Table Show presented by 2437 02:01:57,280 --> 02:01:59,200 Speaker 4: Postman Law seven hundred WW