1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on w b Z, 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Boston's news radio. 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: Well, there was an interesting group of activities this weekend 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: in Boston for those of you who live in I 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: believe Middleborough in Greater Boston Middleborough, also Randolph and a 6 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: little bit of West Roxbury, with the big finale around 7 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: one o'clock on Sunday morning in Boston South End there 8 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: was what they call a meet up or street activity 9 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 2: where a bunch of knuckleheads decide to drive their cars, 10 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: block off intersections and basically taunt police officers and in 11 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: one case, one of the police vehicles and goodness there 12 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 2: were no police officers inside at the time, was set 13 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: a fire to. 14 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 3: I'm sure. 15 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: Mensa candidates on Julian Bauer's eighteen and Cumberland, Wrote Island 16 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 2: and William Candwell of Warwick, Rhode Island. He's nineteen years old. 17 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 2: They were arraigned today on a variety of charges including 18 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: I believe assault on a police officer, salt and battery 19 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: and a police officer, disorderly conduct, resisting rest, and malicious 20 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: destruction of property. Unfortunately, their bail was I thought way 21 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 2: too low, thousand dollars for Cadwell and five hundred for 22 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 2: Boers thought the bail should have at least matched the 23 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: amount of damage that the group did with us. Now, 24 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 2: as the president of the Boston Police Patrolman's Association, friend 25 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: of this program for many years, Larry called her own Larry. 26 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: It was a rough night to be a Boston police 27 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 2: officer in Boston the morning of October the Yes, it 28 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 2: was October the fifth. 29 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 4: How are you tonight, Thanks, Dan, Thanks for having me on. 30 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 4: I'm doing well. Yeah, It's a tough job every day 31 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 4: of the week, but some nights, some nights like this weekend, 32 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 4: make it all that much tougher and a little bit 33 00:01:58,720 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 4: more scarier for people. 34 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 3: What was going on? What was going on? I know 35 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 3: Randolph had some activity. 36 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: I saw a news report on that. But one story 37 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 2: I read said that there was also some street activity 38 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: of these so called meetups. You can explain to my 39 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 2: audience what they mean. But was there some activity in 40 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: West Roxbury over the weekend as well? 41 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 4: There was so all on the same night, Dan. Apparently 42 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 4: it started in Randolph. They have these meetups where they 43 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 4: use the social media wraps and hundreds of individuals talk 44 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 4: to one another and they have a planned event and 45 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 4: they met up in Randolph, same type of scenario. They 46 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 4: close off a bunch of streets, they get into an intersection, 47 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 4: they block it with their vehicles, and basically they're spinning 48 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 4: their wheels, they're doing donuts. They're acting like kids, I 49 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 4: guess you would say in a parking lot, except they're 50 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 4: doing it on a public roadway, and it makes it 51 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 4: all that much more dangerous. And it appears as though 52 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 4: they're drawing the attention of police officers who come and 53 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 4: monitor the situation, and usually they disperse. And when this 54 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 4: happened in Randolph, they left. They showed up in West 55 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 4: Roxbury about an hour later. They did it, same type 56 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 4: of scenario, block off an intersection, except this time they 57 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 4: get a little bit more aggressive. They have fire and fireworks, 58 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 4: they've been in their tires. This is right out on 59 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 4: the Deadham line in West Roxbury on Washington Street. So 60 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 4: I have it verified from some of my members that 61 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 4: not only will we monitoring the situation, but so were 62 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 4: the Deadham police. The crowd disperses, and now later they 63 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 4: show up down the South End in Boston, except this 64 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 4: time when police officers were alerted to their presence. The 65 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 4: first police cruiser goes through the intersection. Nothing happens. As 66 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 4: the second police cruiser enters the intersection, immediately they close 67 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 4: it off. They moved their cars into a position where 68 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 4: the police officer was stuck in a gauntlet, so to speak, 69 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 4: had no means of regress, and the only way that 70 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 4: he could keep himself safe was to continue to do 71 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 4: circles within the middle of the intersection. And while this 72 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 4: was transpiring, in his words, hundreds of people automatically ambushed them, 73 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 4: came out. They were striking the car with poles, they 74 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 4: were hitting it with their hands, they were throwing objects 75 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 4: at it. Meanwhile they're fire and fireworks. So their assault 76 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 4: in this police officer or an assault in this cruiser, 77 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 4: until eventually it pops into flames, and somehow the crowd, 78 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 4: of course disperses as more police officers are coming to 79 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 4: the officer in trouble call. And when we get enough 80 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 4: help there as the crowd is running, the officers are 81 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 4: able to apprehend two of the individuals that were I 82 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 4: don't know if they're the main culprit, so I want 83 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 4: to be fair, but they are the individuals in the 84 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 4: crowd that were striking the car, that were assaulting the 85 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 4: officer and they were placed under arrest. 86 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, as I said, it's possible that they were heading 87 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 2: at one point thirty on sun the morning to a 88 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 2: local mensa meeting Larry and they might have just been 89 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 2: innocently walking by and nabbed by the police and the 90 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: victims of I don't know, some form of just absurd. 91 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 2: I mean, can you imagine if it's your eighteen year 92 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 2: old kid or your nineteen year old kid. I watched 93 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: a couple of one of the stations tonight, the parents walking. 94 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 3: Them out of out of court. 95 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 2: The parents must really be proud of their kids that 96 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 2: that's where they were at one thirty in the morning. 97 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I guess. 98 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 4: Well, well, you know, Dan O Paris used to say 99 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 4: nothing good happens after eleven, and I tell my own 100 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 4: kids nothing good happens after ten, because I hope they'll 101 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 4: go home a little bit earlier. But yeah, yeah, you know, 102 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 4: you're out. You're out at one thirty, two thirty, three 103 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 4: thirty in the morning. As I've had a lot to 104 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 4: say today on the behalf of my members. This was 105 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 4: a planned event and from Randolph to West Roxbury to 106 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 4: deeper into the city of Boston, the perpetrators only became 107 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 4: more aggressive and went to a point in Boston lately, 108 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 4: at least in the last several weeks, where it almost 109 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 4: seems like individuals come in from out of town and 110 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 4: out of state and they want to attack police officers. 111 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 4: I don't understand it. And we did get a great 112 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 4: response from Mayo Wu. She stood behind us. Some of 113 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 4: the elected officials in city Hall today put a resolution 114 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 4: forward to support us. But we need more than that. 115 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 4: We need the judiciary, we need all elected officials, we 116 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 4: need community members. This should never be tolerated. You shouldn't 117 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 4: have a fight at the MGM where they attack police 118 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 4: officers out front and physically get into fisticuffs. You shouldn't 119 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 4: have two police officers attacked in a Boston public school 120 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 4: last week. You shouldn't have a police officer a few 121 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 4: weeks back shot on the job. Police officers are not 122 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 4: punching bags. That's not what we get paid to do. 123 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 4: We're here to protect and serve and they have every 124 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 4: right to go home at the end of the night 125 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 4: and see their loved ones. Uh. And we need people 126 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 4: to stand up for us, and we need prosecution to happen. 127 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 4: I mean, we're happy with the stance that District Attorney 128 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 4: Hayden's office put forth. Today, we're not quite thrilled with 129 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 4: the bail, but sometimes individuals can't afford a bail, so 130 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 4: we are sympathetic from that standpoint. I don't want to 131 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 4: seem like. 132 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 2: Well, let me let me take a criticism towards the 133 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 2: DA's office. 134 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 3: You don't have to join this criticism, but. 135 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:35,239 Speaker 2: I'm familiar with an establishment a liquor store in West 136 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: Roxbury who about a year ago, a guy came in, 137 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: took a bunch of expensive bottles of liquor, put him 138 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: in a bag. When he went to check out at 139 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 2: the counter, they had they had monitored this individual. He 140 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 2: put one lique one bottle of liquor up on the 141 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 2: counter to pay for so the owner of the establishment 142 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: went over UH and confronted the gentleman and and advised 143 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: that he should put all of the bottles that were 144 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 2: in the bag. Words were exchanged UH, and the thief 145 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 2: ran out the door with the bag. The owner of 146 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: the store, guy who was in his fifties, chased after him, 147 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 2: caught up with the guy and grabbed the bag from 148 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 2: the guy that had taken the liquor. 149 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 3: The liquors the extra bottles. 150 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 2: The guy threw the one bottle that he had in 151 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: his hand, assaulting, hitting the owner of the liquor store, 152 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 2: and he ran off the liquor store owner. When he 153 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 2: went back to the liquor store, he realized that in 154 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: the bag besides the bottles were this guy's release records 155 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: from like a couple of days before from the Suffolk 156 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 2: County House of Correction and his driver's license and other identification. 157 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 3: Uh. 158 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 2: He then, you know, made an identification and it was 159 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 2: in the system. In June of this year, he got 160 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 2: a call from the DA's office saying the situation had 161 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 2: been resolved. And my friend told me on Saturday. He said, well, 162 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 2: wait a second, why are you calling me now? I 163 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 2: was hoping to be a witness as as I was 164 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 2: a victim of assault and battery to a bottle of 165 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: liquor was thrown at me. And they said, well, it 166 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 2: was resolved. He was given, you know, some slap on 167 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 2: the wrist probation, if that is what the DA's office 168 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 2: in Boston does with someone who obviously had just been 169 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: released from prison from jail. And and then his first 170 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 2: or one of his first acts was to go and 171 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 2: rob rob a liquor store. 172 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 3: I think D. A. 173 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 2: Hayden should find himself another line of work and you 174 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 2: don't have to join that in that point of view, Larry, 175 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 2: But that is a ridiculous, you know, disposition of that case. 176 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 2: And it's insulting to the owner of the liquor store 177 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 2: to be called three or four months later. Are they 178 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 2: that busy in the Suffolk County District Attorney's office They 179 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 2: wouldn't tell him in advance, we're going to have a 180 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 2: hearing and we're going to resolve this next week. Telling 181 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 2: him four months later. I'm appalled at that. And that's 182 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: not a criticism of the police department. That's a criticism 183 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 2: of District Attorneys Hayden's office. 184 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 4: No, I appreciate that, and of course, for the listeners, 185 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 4: I'm assigned to West Roxbury, I'm familiar with that case. 186 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 4: I actually went down and spoke to the store owner 187 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 4: and we've been working hand in hand with the Captain 188 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 4: in West Roxbury to have some better community policing and 189 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 4: walking beach. 190 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: You've been doing You've been right. The police department has 191 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 2: been doing a great job for this particular owner, this 192 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 2: this this businessman. But boy, doesn't that send a message 193 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 2: to the criminal element that I mean, you know, these 194 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 2: kids will get some sort of probation. 195 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 3: Who did this? Who destroyed a police cruiser. 196 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 2: I don't know what a police cruiser costs the taxpayers 197 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: in Boston, but I got to assume with the equipment 198 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 2: that you have inside, fifty thousand dollars at least maybe more. 199 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a little bit more than that. I'd be 200 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 4: willing to guess it's probably around sixty seventy thousand. And 201 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 4: I'm glad we came right back to the events of 202 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 4: the weekend because that's really weird. I'd like to focus 203 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 4: because there has to be some type of punishment that's 204 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 4: handed down. It can't just be a slap on the wrist. 205 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 4: We need to show individuals that if you're going to 206 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 4: attack a police officer, if you're going to assault the 207 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 4: police officer, there has to be repercussions. It can't just 208 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 4: be a slap on the wrist and hey, don't do 209 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 4: it again, because the fact is they come right back 210 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 4: another summer, another weekend, and they're doing the same thing, 211 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 4: maybe not in Boston, but in another community. And if 212 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 4: you don't at least teach somebody that their actions are 213 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 4: wrong in some way, shape or form. They're just going 214 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 4: to reoffend, and we can't have a we can't wait 215 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 4: till a police officer ends up in the hospital or 216 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 4: worse and say, oh, we should have done something differently. 217 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 4: So I fully hope and expect that the Police Commissioner 218 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 4: will have a very thorough investigation with the state wide 219 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 4: brick Unit with the state police. I hope the DA's 220 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 4: office will continue to push, and I hope that the 221 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 4: judge in this case down the road will hand down 222 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 4: some type of punishment that is justified. I mean, look, 223 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 4: no one got hurt. Surely that they're not going to prison. 224 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 4: We're not advocating for a super strong sentence that would 225 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 4: be out of the ordinary, but we are looking for 226 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 4: some type of punishment that fits the crime, because without it, 227 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 4: they're just going to reoffend. And we're just saying that 228 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 4: it's okay to have this type of behavior and assault 229 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 4: police officers, and it's not okay, and people should be 230 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 4: worried if if you have an individual that thinks nothing 231 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 4: of assaulting a police officer, imagine what they would do 232 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 4: to Joe citizen walking down the street. 233 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 2: Larry, let me just take quick break here and I'll 234 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 2: keep you to nine point thirty one more segment. I 235 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 2: just want to follow up on other people I want 236 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 2: to call and ask questions. I can try to fit 237 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 2: a couple of callers in, but it's been a long 238 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 2: day for you. I know that I'm going to talk 239 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 2: about this for the balance at this hour because this 240 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 2: has to be confronted. My guest is Larry called Aerone. 241 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: He's the president of the Boston Police Patrolman's Association. Didn't 242 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 2: mean to put you on the spot, but it's just 243 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: the idea of crime and no punishment has become I think, 244 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 2: uh emblematic of what's going on in Boston, and that 245 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 2: is not a good thing. And I just wanted to 246 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 2: raise that issue for the audience to be aware. We'll 247 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 2: be back on Night's Side with Larry called Aerone, the 248 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 2: president of the Boston Police Patrolman's Association. If you'd like 249 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: to jump on board, give us a call. Six one, seven, two, 250 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: five four to ten thirty six one seven, nine, three 251 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 2: one ten thirty Back on night Side after this. 252 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm Boston's News Radio. 253 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: Larry, you saw some of this activity about a year 254 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 2: ago in the summer of lass summer in twenty twenty four, 255 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 2: and I think there was one night on Newberry Street 256 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 2: where these uh, this group sort of took over. I 257 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: don't know if it's the same group of kids, but 258 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 2: they have taken you know, these the so called meetups. 259 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 2: Is there any charge? I mean, let's assume they just 260 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 2: take over a an intersection. I mean that has to 261 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: scare the heck out of people who are driving home 262 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: from a you know, this tends to happen after midnight, 263 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 2: so people are out driving home. 264 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 3: This is this really is. 265 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: A serious not it's more than an inconvenience. It's and 266 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 2: it's an assault on the peace and quietude of neighborhoods 267 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 2: in Boston. And I hope the authorities will be on 268 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,119 Speaker 2: the police department will take this seriously. 269 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 4: Well. I hope so too, because yes, usually it's in 270 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 4: residential neighborhoods. It's extremely late at night or early in 271 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 4: the morning, which have you prefer and and working people 272 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 4: are in bed sleep and kids are in bed, you know, 273 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 4: sleeping before school, and it interrupts their quality of life. 274 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 4: You know, it's unfortunate that these things do happen. It's 275 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 4: one of the negatives, I guess, we'll say, of social media, 276 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 4: where they can coordinate these types of events and and 277 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 4: hundreds of people show up and entires, they're blowing off 278 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 4: fireworks and they're they're creating a blockade, so police officers 279 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 4: usually cannot get into disperse their crowd, and when they're done, 280 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 4: everybody takes off, and it's and it's not the type 281 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 4: of crime where police officers are going to chase the 282 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 4: car for blocking an intersection. Growing up by your works. 283 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 4: You know, we're just that day and age is over. 284 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 4: We're a little bit more professional, a little bit more 285 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 4: precise in the way we police, so we would rather 286 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 4: they just move on. But what happened in the South 287 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 4: End the other night is totally unacceptable. Dan. They created 288 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 4: a gauntlet. This was intent. You know, as far as 289 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 4: we're concerned, we're extremely worried about the safety of our offices. 290 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 4: It's you know, they went to Randolph. There's all kinds 291 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 4: of videos out there. Are they watching the response time 292 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 4: of police officers? Are they watching how we respond to 293 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 4: these types of calls? And as they moved from one 294 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 4: sect to the to another, are they becoming more bold. 295 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 4: I think that's clearly evident that that's exactly what happened. 296 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 4: And after they were able to get the first police 297 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 4: cruiser into the intersection, they blocked it off and they 298 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 4: kept that officer there so that they could attack them 299 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 4: and film it at the same time. It's really really 300 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 4: thick behavior for adolescents today. It's really awful that they 301 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 4: think that this type of behavior is acceptable or even funny. 302 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 303 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 2: I saw some video, and the video was sort of grainy, 304 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 2: but there were some kids who had very long sticks. 305 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 2: They were much longer than a baseball that they were 306 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 2: four or five feet long, and they were using the 307 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 2: sticks to hit the police car even as it was 308 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 2: on fire. And one of them had a mask that 309 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: likened back to some of the INTIFA protests. Now I'm 310 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 2: not suggesting these people were in TIFA, but there were 311 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 2: people who were in that crowd, Larry, when you look 312 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 2: at that video who who were professional agitators. They had 313 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,239 Speaker 2: masks and they were trying to stir that crowd up. 314 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 2: I mean, not everybody was there to cause harm to 315 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 2: police officers or to police vehicles, but when you see 316 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 2: people with long sticks who have full masks, they're almost 317 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 2: like I think called they called guy fox masks or 318 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 2: something that sort of a distorted face mask. So be 319 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 2: aware of those folks as well, because those are the 320 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 2: ones who I think are there for the purpose of 321 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 2: really riling people up. 322 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 4: Well, Dan, and that's why I'm taking a little bit 323 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 4: more of an aggressive stance than our own police commissioner. 324 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 4: Did you know it was a little downplayed in the 325 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 4: newspaper that it was kid spinning tires. It really wasn't 326 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 4: just kids spin and tis not everyone there was an 327 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 4: agitated Not everyone was assaulting the police officer. But there 328 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 4: were those in the crowd like you're talking about that 329 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 4: they were there. They were prepared with their masks, they 330 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 4: were prepared with their with their weapons, I will say, 331 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 4: and they were hell bent on cause and anarchy. They 332 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 4: wanted to harmor police officers. They were using this event 333 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 4: as a means to do so, and it was planned. 334 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 2: And it might be Larry that the excuse me, I'm 335 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 2: fighting a little bit of a sore throat. I didn't 336 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 2: mean to interrupt you, but that's what it might be 337 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 2: that that's exactly what you're talking about, is that these 338 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 2: two kids who got lugged by the police the two 339 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 2: kids from from Rhode Island, Bowers from Cumberland, Rhode Island, 340 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 2: eighteen and Cantwell nineteen from Warwick, Rhode Island. They might 341 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 2: have they might not have been the leaders of the group, 342 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 2: but there were people with with that were wearing these 343 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 2: masks that I can remember having seen those masks and 344 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 2: other otherwise much more organized demonstration. 345 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 3: So you gotta you gotta, you gotta issue. 346 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 2: You guys got to deal the guys and gals of 347 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 2: the police department have to deal with under your leadership, 348 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 2: and I'm sure you guys will prevail, but public needs 349 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 2: to support the Boston Police Patrolman's Association. 350 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 4: Goodn't agree more, Dan, I appreciate your saying so. And 351 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 4: I don't know what you have on the line there, 352 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 4: but if you you want me to answer it. 353 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 3: I'd love to yell. Yeah, let me. 354 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 2: I gotta take quick news break. I didn't want to. 355 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 2: I know it's been a long day for you. I 356 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 2: got a bunch of phone calls. I promise I'll let 357 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 2: you go at ten, no later than ten. That's that's 358 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 2: a guarantee, Okay. Larry called her own Boston Police Patrolman's 359 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: Association president, Uh Let's get to the phone calls right 360 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 2: after the news break back on Nightside. 361 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 3: Right after this, It's. 362 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 4: Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. 363 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 2: Larry, let's get to the phones right away. I'm gonna 364 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 2: start off with Susan in Milton. Susan, welcome, you are 365 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: first this hour with my good friend and guest, Larry Calderone, 366 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 2: the president of the Boston Police Patrolman's Association. 367 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 5: Go ahead, Susan, good evening, gentlemen. Yes, so I had 368 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 5: a question, but I just wanted to kind of say 369 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 5: I'm older now, but I you know, as a teen, 370 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 5: I grew up in Milton, and you know, we were fresh, 371 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 5: and I'm going to admit that. But when the police came, 372 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 5: we hung out at Cunningham Park. When the police came, 373 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 5: we left. We respected the police, and you always respected 374 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 5: the police. You just never would even think about saying 375 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 5: anything or attacking. And I'm just I'm really worried because 376 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 5: it just seems like lately this is kind of a 377 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 5: when did this all kind of become a thing to 378 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 5: suddenly attack police. And also the bail of five thousand 379 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 5: and a thousand or something, I'm thinking that policeman could 380 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 5: have died in that police car. I'm a nurse. I'm 381 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 5: semi retired at this point, but I mean, I've seen 382 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,479 Speaker 5: it all. He could have died in that car. 383 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 3: So great, great point. 384 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 5: And when this tied has changed to disrespecting police officers, well. 385 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 2: Larry's been a police officer for a long time. And Larry, 386 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: if you could address Susan's observation in question, I'd appreciate it. 387 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 4: Sure. First off, thanks for calling in, Susan, thank you 388 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 4: for the support. And I couldn't agree with you more. 389 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 3: I've been a. 390 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 4: Police officer for for three decades now. Came on in 391 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 4: the early nineties and there was a lot of violence 392 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 4: in the nineties in the city of Boston. And when 393 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 4: I was growing up, much like yourself, we were taught 394 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 4: right from wrong, and you were taught to respect police 395 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 4: officers and authority. And you were also taught in school 396 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 4: to question authority. But you do it respectfully. And I'm 397 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 4: not pointing fingers a point and blame, but there's a 398 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 4: lot of blame to go around. I think that family 399 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 4: values are a suspect. I think that we're not educating 400 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 4: our kids enough that police officers are here to protect 401 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 4: and serve we here to aid to it. You remember 402 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 4: the poster that used to be there when you were 403 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 4: a young child that if you were lost, go find 404 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 4: a police officer. I don't see that. I don't see 405 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 4: that being taught today, and I don't see that being 406 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 4: practice in society. So it's really too bad that we 407 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 4: have been vilified, and some of it, some of it 408 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 4: we have brought on ourselves with some questionable police officers, 409 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 4: but they are far and few between. I'll tell you, 410 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 4: after thirty one years, ninety nine point nine percent of 411 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 4: the police officers that I've meant that I've worked with, 412 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 4: I'm doing a great job. They're working hard, and they're 413 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 4: embarrassed by that one tenth of a percent that don't 414 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 4: belong here. So there's a lot of blame to go around. Susan. 415 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 4: All I can say is if we all do our part, 416 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 4: from elected officials to parents to teach, is that we 417 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 4: can get back to the society that we knew when 418 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 4: we were kids. 419 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 3: Susan, thank you so much for your call. 420 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 2: Great points, and thanks for respecting police officers. 421 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 4: Thanks Susan, welcome, Thank you talk again. 422 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 3: Let me go next to Vanessa in Boston. 423 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 2: Vanessa you are next on nice side with Larry Caldern, 424 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 2: the president of the VPPA. 425 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 6: Hi, then, thanks for taking my call. 426 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 3: Are you want to speaker of Susans rather? Vanessa? Are 427 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 3: you on a speakerphone? 428 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 6: No, I'm not. 429 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I want you to put that phone right 430 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 2: up to your mouth so we can hear you. It 431 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 2: sounds a little a little like a speakerphone. You just 432 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 2: talk right into the mouthpiece, okay, so we can hear 433 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 2: you clearly. 434 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 4: Thank you. 435 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 3: Correct. 436 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 6: I'm the daughter of a police officer and I'm actually 437 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 6: away at school right now, and I've been following the 438 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 6: news for the past few days and I woke up 439 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,959 Speaker 6: Sunday morning to see videos of the cruiser on fire, 440 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 6: and honestly, it was just very terrifying and he's injured. 441 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 6: You alls need to be prosecuted. And I just want 442 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 6: to say thank you to both you and Larry for 443 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 6: bringing attention to this issue. And I want to remind 444 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 6: everyone that police officers are our fathers and our boyfriends 445 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 6: and husbands and their people too. 446 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 2: Vanessa, thanks very much, It says Vanessa in Boston and 447 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 2: you're going to school here? Are you from Boston and 448 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 2: going school somewhere? 449 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 3: Else. 450 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 6: I'm from Boston and going to school somewhere else. 451 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 2: Okay, well, I'm not going to ask you to identify 452 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 2: where you're going to school, but thank you so much 453 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 2: for taking the time to call in. Larry, say hi 454 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 2: to Vanessa. She's the daughter of a police I'm not 455 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 2: going to ask you what force your your dad is on. 456 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. All police officers should be respected. Go ahead, Larry. 457 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:49,959 Speaker 6: Oh well, Boston Police. 458 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 2: Oh yes, okay, great, Okay, so Larry, this must be 459 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 2: one of your your your family members, go right ahead. 460 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I appreciate Bernessa. I appreciate your calling, and 461 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 4: I appreciate you owning up to being the daughter of 462 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 4: a Boston police officer, because it takes a lot of 463 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,239 Speaker 4: courage to call in and say that you're worried, and 464 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 4: say that you are concerned, and let me put some 465 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 4: of your fears at rest. The Boston Police Department is 466 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 4: an extremely well trained and professional police force. I know 467 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 4: you know this if one of your parents are a 468 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 4: police officer, but it's good to hear it from the 469 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 4: union president, and it's good to hear it from somebody 470 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 4: that has thirty years experience. We are a tremendously well 471 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 4: trained police department, and when this took place, there were 472 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 4: dozens of police officers coming to the aid of the 473 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 4: officer that was in distress. So if you're worried about 474 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 4: your parents, I'm not going to be able to put 475 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 4: that fear to rest. But let me try to help 476 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 4: you and say, you do your study and at school, 477 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 4: you pay attention to what you set out to do. 478 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 4: Whom you're away at college, but know that you're a 479 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 4: parent or parents, they're well trained, they have lots of help, 480 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 4: and we're going to do everything that we can from 481 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 4: a union standpoint to make sure that they go home 482 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 4: safely at the end of their tour. 483 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 3: Vanessa, thank you so much. 484 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 6: I appreciate everything you've been doing for the union. 485 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 2: And Vanessa, thanks very much for you taking the time 486 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 2: to call tonight. 487 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 3: And that's the luck. In school. 488 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 2: What's what's your what's your major going to be? Have 489 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 2: you picked the major yet? 490 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 5: Yeah? 491 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 6: I'm political science. 492 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 2: All right. Well that's a great major. Uh And I'm 493 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 2: sure you're going to do well. And thank you so much, Vanessa, talk. 494 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 4: Soon, Okay, thank you, have a good night. 495 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Keep listening to Night Side wherever 496 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 3: you are. Thank you, thanks very much. Gene. 497 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 2: Isn't ever, Gene going to get you in here before 498 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 2: the break, so you don't have to wait any longer. 499 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 3: You can right ahead, Gene. 500 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 7: Thank you. Hi guys, So honestly, I am so tired 501 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 7: of this lawless lawlessness. I'm tired of it. I'm tired 502 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 7: of it in Boston, I'm tired of it in other places. 503 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 7: And these people are not little angels who are out 504 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 7: they're doing this. They're breaking the law, destroying property, humming 505 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 7: police officers. They're criminals, okay, and I want to see 506 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 7: it stopped. But the thing is, there's somebody maybe in 507 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 7: that neighborhood, maybe they need an ambulance, maybe they have 508 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 7: a heart attack, maybe whatever, and that those people messing 509 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 7: around in that street could have stopped, prevented that person 510 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 7: from getting any help. And really, you know what I'd 511 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 7: like to see. I'd like to see those mace balls 512 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 7: maybe put in something softer where they break open, easy 513 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 7: drop from a drone right into that crowd, let them 514 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 7: cough it out. Maybe that would be a determined something 515 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 7: has to happen. I'm serious. I don't like them Malians 516 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 7: because they throw them right back at you. I think 517 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 7: something softer which would open up, you know, like a 518 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 7: cracked egg type of material or something, and drop it 519 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 7: right on them, let them cough it out. They have 520 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 7: to learn, they have to stop. But it's going to 521 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 7: it's like a part of boiling water sizzling. It's not 522 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 7: boiling it. It's going to come to a boil though. 523 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 7: It's going to create a fire. It's going to be bad. 524 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 2: You got to the problem with that, I think, Gene 525 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 2: is you could have officers there who do not have 526 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 2: access to whatever protective equipment they might need, and they 527 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 2: might find themselves in the middle of that. 528 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 3: Larry a quick. 529 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 7: Comment, maybe they have a guess mask. 530 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 3: That be all right? 531 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 4: Go ahead, Larry, Well, I'll thank Jean for Colin and 532 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 4: we share your frustration. Gene. I. Naturally, I cannot advocate 533 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 4: that we would use a tactic such as your suggestion, 534 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 4: but but I'm going to reiterate that there has to 535 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 4: be some type of punishment that fits the crime. And 536 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 4: a slap on the wrist and just saying that a 537 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 4: twenty year old is on probation that does not scare 538 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 4: kids anymore, that does not keep young adolescents in line, 539 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 4: and that does not rehabilitate them and teach them right 540 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 4: if I'm wrong. Uh So there needs to be something 541 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 4: a little bit stronger. What that is? You know, every 542 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 4: case is different. I'm not going to pretend to know 543 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 4: every single one, but listen, I appreciate the support. I 544 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 4: know the men and women that I represent appreciate your support, 545 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 4: and we share your frustration. For too long this been 546 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 4: going on. 547 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 3: All right? Thanks? Thanks, Okay, thank you, Jam. 548 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 7: I'm up with my Breakako. 549 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you very much. Larry. One more segment coming up. 550 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 2: We'll be right back with Larry Calderroll, the president of 551 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 2: the Boston Police Patrolman's Association. We've got Tom, Steve, and 552 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 2: Judy lined up, and I guarantee all three of you 553 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 2: will get in in that order. 554 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 3: Coming back on Night Side. 555 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 4: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on wz Boston's 556 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 4: news radio. 557 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 3: We're a little pressed here. 558 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 2: We got a lot of callers and we're going to 559 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 2: go to Tom in West Virginia. Tom, help me out here. 560 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 2: I want to get at least three of you in 561 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 2: between now and ten. 562 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 3: Go right ahead. 563 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 8: Yeah. Number one, I go back to Boston when I 564 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 8: started going to school, lived there, in nineteen seventy eight, 565 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 8: and the Boston Police Force has done a tremendous job 566 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 8: of keeping that city safe. I mean, they've had twenty 567 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 8: five murders last year. Compare that with nineteen ninety when 568 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 8: there was over one hundred and fifty. 569 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 2: Well compared to Baltimore, which is a similar sized city. 570 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,479 Speaker 8: I know, yeah, right, I understand that. But you know, 571 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 8: I used to serve on a board for Ward ten 572 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 8: and Mission Hill, where I'm going to name a couple 573 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 8: of names. The officer would probably be familiar with Paul 574 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 8: Evans as well as police officer John Harden and really 575 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 8: good cops back then, and it was it was difficult 576 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 8: dealing with the problems Boston had back then. And I've 577 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 8: just seen a police force just do a complete turnaround. 578 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 3: And well, I'm sure, I'm sure Larry very much appreciates that. 579 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm meditations that are done by Go ahead. 580 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 4: Sorry, I'm sorry about that, Tom, continue please, and then 581 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 4: I'll chime in. Go ahead. 582 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 8: Yeah. Well, the thing is that these trated things that 583 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 8: are going on, and it's happening in different parts of 584 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 8: the country, and the problem is if you have a 585 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 8: couple of cruises there and all of a sudden, there's 586 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 8: one hundred kids around you and they're shooting off Roman 587 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 8: candles and skyrockets and what have you. You're right, a vehicle 588 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 8: can catch on fire and things get out of hand 589 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 8: very quickly. And with regards to those fools running around 590 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 8: with their guy fox masks, those are anarchists. And all 591 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 8: you have to do is understand. You know, a century ago, 592 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 8: what was going on over in Europe and parts of America, 593 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 8: we had anarchists doing the same thing. The officer is 594 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 8: that you know something you need to Tom. 595 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 4: Let me. 596 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 2: I don't mean to dirupt you, but I want to 597 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 2: get Larry in here for a second. Okay, go ahead, Larry, 598 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 2: you got a feeing in Tom here in West Virginia. 599 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. I was going to say thanks for calling from 600 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 4: so far away and being from War ten. You know 601 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 4: what Mission Hill used to be like during the early nineties. 602 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 4: And again I came on in the early nineties, and 603 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 4: yet we had a murderator of over one hundred and 604 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 4: twenty five hundred and fifty and we are now one 605 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 4: of the safest cities in the country. And we're proud 606 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 4: of that because the police department has transformed itself We're 607 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 4: the leader in community policing, We're the leader in training 608 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 4: and professionalism, and we exude that every day. The men 609 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 4: and women on the street do a tremendous job, and 610 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 4: we're actually loved by our general public. You're always going 611 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 4: to have people that don't like you, but overall we 612 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 4: are one of the safest cities. We do a great job, 613 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 4: and things are much different than in the early nineties. 614 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 4: And yes, I'm well acquainted with Paul Evins, who is retired, 615 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 4: was the commissioner, but I have a very good working 616 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 4: relationship with him to this day. He's actually the chief 617 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 4: over at Boston College. 618 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 2: All right, thanks to appreciate, appreciate the call and the perspective. 619 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 2: Appreciate it. Let me go next real quickly to Steve 620 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 2: and Linchfield. Steve, you're on with Larry called their own 621 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 2: president of the Boston Police Patrolman's Association. 622 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: Go ahead, stee hey, gentlemen, good evenings ahead. I turned 623 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: in tuned in a little bit late night. The woman 624 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: was on when I tuned in, said when did this 625 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: all start? This lawlessness? And if you look at the schools, 626 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: there's no more detention. There's restorative justice, right nobody. There's 627 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: no accountability for actions starting from when you're really little. 628 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: So when you get to be adults and you get 629 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: released for minor crimes with no punishment, were created a society. Sorry, 630 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: I just went upstairs. I'm out of breath. But there's 631 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: just lawlessness and nobody has ever held accountable for their actions. Again, 632 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: it starts in school, in grammar school, and it goes 633 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: all the way through adulthood when we have district attorneys 634 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: who release people with the slap on the wrist. 635 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 2: Right, all great points, Stevid. Lets you catch your breath. 636 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 2: I think Larry would agree with you. 637 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, Steve again, thanks for Collin, and yes, catch your breath, 638 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 4: and yeah, you're right that times are extremely different. My 639 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 4: phone here is actually going off. Somebody just texted me. 640 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 4: We talk about what they're taught and what kids are 641 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 4: not taught, and where we are politically. But apparently there's 642 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,959 Speaker 4: a Virginia Democratic Attorney General candidate j Jones who had 643 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 4: some chilling things to say. Geez, I hate even to 644 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 4: say this on the air. Dan, if this is true, it. 645 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 2: Is true, it is true, he would he at some 646 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 2: point a few years ago, he made a joke about 647 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 2: basically putting two bullets in the head of a Republican 648 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 2: House speaker in the state of Virginia. And that is 649 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 2: a guy the Democrats now running for attorney general in 650 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 2: the state of Virginia. And if the Democrats are smart, 651 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 2: and I hope they are, they will throw him overboard 652 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 2: and find it a better candidate. 653 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,959 Speaker 4: Dan. This one's worse that this one. Again, I don't 654 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 4: if this is true, but I've received this now twice 655 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 4: more cops get killed after being stripped of their legal protection, 656 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 4: they would shoot fewer people. I mean, what kind of 657 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 4: political operative would say something like that. That's just in 658 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 4: the total violence against police officers. So, uh, you know, 659 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 4: stay in Virginia, I guess is what I would say 660 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:21,919 Speaker 4: to that. 661 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 3: Well, you know this, this, this is gonna this is 662 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 3: going to blow up. 663 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 2: This very well may cost the Democrats a Senate seat 664 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 2: because there's a Senate seat up in November, a US 665 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 2: Senate seat and a governorship and if it does, it'll 666 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 2: serve them. 667 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 3: Correct. 668 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 2: This guy is disgusting, absolutely disgusting. But you're you're whoever's 669 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,240 Speaker 2: texting you knows what they're talking about. 670 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 4: Well, Steve, thank you, and yeah, I don't know what 671 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 4: to say to the to this Uh. I found that appalling, 672 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 4: so I shared it with you. 673 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 3: Dan. 674 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 2: Well again, this at a time when there's just too 675 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 2: much of this stuff going on in actuality, UH, and 676 00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 2: too much of this verbal commentary back and forth. It 677 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 2: has to it has to stop in this country. Steve, 678 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 2: thank you very much for your call. I'm gonna I 679 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 2: don't have enough time, Larry. I've got other callers. I'm 680 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 2: going to invite those callers to hang through the ten 681 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 2: o'clock news so that they can. They're both from Boston, 682 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna ask Judy and Rita stay right there, 683 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 2: will continue this conversation. 684 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,320 Speaker 3: Larry has to go back to work in the morning. 685 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 2: I don't have to go back to work until tomorrow 686 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 2: at eight pm night, so I'll let Larry go. Larry, 687 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 2: thanks so much, and thanks for being the stand up 688 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 2: guy for your membership that you are. 689 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,280 Speaker 4: I appreciate it. Dan, and those two callers, I appreciate 690 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 4: them calling, and especially being from Boston. Hopefully they're in 691 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,439 Speaker 4: support of the men and women that are out there 692 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 4: answering the calls for service, because they're the ones that 693 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,760 Speaker 4: really need the respect. I'm you know, I'm three decades 694 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 4: old now, and I'm speaking for them, and they're out 695 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 4: there answering the calls and working the doubles and unfortunately 696 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 4: having muli toough cocktail thrown at them in batteries and 697 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 4: so forth. So not the keep standing up for them, 698 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 4: because we're going to so thank you Dan. 699 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 2: My pleasure. Larry called he wrong. We'll talk soon, Larry, Uh, 700 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,359 Speaker 2: Judy and Rita. You stay right there because you will 701 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 2: lead us off in the next hour. In the meantime, 702 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 2: if you'd like to join this conversation, this absurdity that 703 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 2: took place not only in Randolph, Middleborough, but West Roxbury 704 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 2: and then a culminated in the South End. This has 705 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 2: to be stopped and you need to, particularly if you're 706 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 2: a Boston resident, you need to speak up because if not, 707 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 2: those in power will bend to the will of the 708 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 2: knuckleheads who think it's a great time to burn a 709 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 2: police car, to immolate a police car. Uh in the 710 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 2: South End at the intersection of Mass and Tremont Street, 711 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,879 Speaker 2: just massav and Tremont back on Night's side, six one seven, 712 00:37:56,120 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 2: six months seven. I'll be more than happy to for 713 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 2: another hour on this because they think it's such an 714 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 2: important topic back on Night's side right after this