1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Michael, I figured out somebody who was happy or moving 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: to Koway and going to three hours the ad execs 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: that I heart. They must be running out of prepaid 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: ads and all I can run is promo and promo 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: and promo and promo? Was your period as the showgus 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 1: on later and later, so they'll be happy that they 7 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: all have to cry and sales money ads for a 8 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: show like us for yours for four hours. 9 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: What kind of work environment do you think that was? 10 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: Were you listening to the background noise? The machine shop? 11 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: Maybe a mechanic, that's that's what I thought, some sort 12 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 2: of machine shop. I'm not sure about a garage. I 13 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 2: mean I didn't hear clanking like I'd expecting the garage. 14 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: You like taking the hammer, you know, to your to 15 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 2: your engine to figure out a Yeah that I'm always fascinated. 16 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 2: So tell us where you were working. Something about promos. 17 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: I shouldn't make this confession on their something about promos 18 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: and glad that we're moving because there's too many promos 19 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: or something and now they can sell some real time. 20 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 3: It was that you, Yeah, you were channeling your inner 21 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 3: mee on not listening to your own show. But yes, 22 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 3: he was referring to the fact that there are tons 23 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 3: of Michael brown Is Moving promos. 24 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 2: Has it been in order? There's been a few. 25 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 3: Well, you know why we have to do that, is 26 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 3: there somebody out there that doesn't know. 27 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: Because they're idiots. You got you gotta slap them around 28 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 2: a few times. 29 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 4: You know. 30 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 2: I don't know how they're gonna I don't have that 31 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,559 Speaker 2: audience over there's gonna respond. But when you know they've 32 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: been just moping around, you know, their heads kind of 33 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 2: they've been staring at their phones, staring at the ground, 34 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 2: walking around unless somebody says the word bronco and then 35 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 2: they and then they work up. And so they're gonna 36 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: be kind of moping around and I'm not come with 37 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: her and just slap them around. Wake them up. Wow, 38 00:01:55,440 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 2: I want to go back to New Mexico. I don't 39 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: did you get that email? Dragon? Oh? 40 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 3: But yes this snap woman, Yes it's up. Supposted. Michael says, 41 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 3: go here dot com. I rarely ask you or beg 42 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 3: you to go to the website. Michael says, go here 43 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 3: dot com and look at a video. 44 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 2: I'm troubled by this video, and I'll explain after you 45 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: listen to it. I want to go through the entire package. 46 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: This is from Channel seven Koa t Albuquerky, New Mexico. 47 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 5: This was yesterday to Americans to federal judges order the 48 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 5: Trump administration to keep the program running using emergency funds. 49 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 5: SNAP recipients have told us their benefits have not been working. 50 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 5: Julian Patta spoke with some who explained why these benefits 51 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 5: are so important. 52 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 6: The first thing I did was prim following a call 53 00:02:58,160 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 6: out of when I'm hired to see a worldue dollar. 54 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 2: My just went into my throat. 55 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 7: Magiatto Goun has been a SNAP recipient for more than 56 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 7: three decades. Even with these benefits, she says she also 57 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 7: relies on food banks to get enough food. 58 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 3: I have depended on those benefits since the nineteen nineties, 59 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 3: and it's detrimental. 60 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: To my life if I don't get them. 61 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 7: There are more than four hundred and sixty thousand New 62 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 7: Mexicans using SNAP benefits tonight, some of them telling us 63 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 7: they don't have those right now. Friday, Governor Michelle Luhan 64 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 7: Grisham announced thirty million dollars in state funds would be 65 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 7: used to supply SNAP users starting November first. 66 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 8: We're gonna choose feeding families over politics in New Mexico. 67 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: We're gonna do that right now. 68 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 7: This announcement was made after the USDA planned to suspend 69 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 7: SNAP benefits for forty two million people across the country. 70 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 7: Tonight's officials with the Governor's Office telling us they were 71 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 7: not aware of this issue until Koat asked them about it. 72 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 7: Those officials letting us and people know. Some recipients may 73 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 7: experience a short delay in seeing their state funded food 74 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 7: benefit balances as the system processes a large volume of data. Today, 75 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 7: all benefits are being loaded and balances should appear by 76 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 7: this evening or tomorrow. 77 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 9: I lost my job and it's been since July that 78 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 9: I've been. 79 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 7: Receiving until then, these people are waiting to hear an 80 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 7: update by Sunday. 81 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 2: I do feel for them. 82 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 9: I do have compassion, and I do hope that they 83 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 9: end up receiving their benefits. 84 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 10: The Governor's office says anyone dealing with these issues should 85 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 10: also visit the New Mexico Healthcare Authorities website for updates. 86 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 10: It's HCA dot NM dot gov slash support. 87 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 2: Okay, waits, you action have a news. I'm Julian Patas. 88 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 2: Did you get the difference between the two people. The 89 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 2: first person that you heard that I've been relying on 90 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 2: these benefits and food bank since the nineteen nineties. I 91 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: don't know what her situation is. What I know is 92 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 2: based on what I saw in the video. She has 93 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 2: full use of both hands because she's gesturing and lifting 94 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 2: her hands up at least to her face, so she 95 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 2: has mobility. She is standing, She doesn't appear to be 96 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: wheelchair bound. She looks to be I'm not very good 97 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: at guessing women's ages because it's just something I. 98 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 3: Don't do it older woman, but I wouldn't call her elderly. 99 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 2: I was guessing maybe mid sixties. 100 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 3: I would say, pushing seventies, okay, maybe early seventies. 101 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 2: Okay, so sixty five to seventy one or two correct, Okay, 102 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: so somewhere with that age. So for thirty years, so 103 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 2: since she was in her thirties or forties, thirties or forties, 104 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 2: she's been on food welfare. And again I don't know, 105 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 2: maybe she has if she has a mental illness. For example, 106 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 2: she certainly seemed to be coherent, she was articulate, she 107 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 2: was able to gesture as she was speaking. She was 108 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 2: quite clear, in what she was saying. 109 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 3: And I think it would be beneficial to the reporter 110 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 3: or the report that if they would have stated the 111 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 3: fact that if she was a handicapped individual who relied 112 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 3: on these more so than somebody who is capable. 113 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: Which gets us to the second person they interview who 114 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 2: Now the first person interviewed, It appeared that they might 115 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 2: have been in a government office building because it was 116 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 2: that government beige and there were little plaques, you know, 117 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: like like like a named desk plate, remember those old 118 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 2: named desk plates that was up above the door jam 119 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: with a number on it. So it appeared to me 120 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 2: to be a government style building. So they may have 121 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 2: captured her, you know, confronted her, caught her in a 122 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 2: government building. The second one, I wasn't quite so sure 123 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,119 Speaker 2: at first, I thought it was a hotel hallway, maybe 124 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: it was a homeless shelter or something. But she admitted 125 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: she said I lost my I think she said in July. 126 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 2: I lost my job in July. I'm assuming she looks 127 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: like and she gave the impression anyway that she has 128 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 2: compassion for people who have lost their jobs, because obviously 129 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: she has and she needs those and so she's relying them, though, 130 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 2: But I did not get the impression that she was 131 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 2: going to be a thirty decade old recipient of food welfare. 132 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 2: Two entirely different people, two entirely different situations. Now, the 133 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: absolute initial reaction from everybody, including myself. My first reaction 134 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: was yep, until I heard thirty years. And then I 135 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 2: had to catch myself because I was immediately immediately, I 136 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 2: was critical of that woman. And then I said, so, 137 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 2: calm down. Thirty years is a long time. Maybe there's 138 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 2: some debilitating disease. They keep telling her every month, youly 139 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: have a month to live, and now for you know, 140 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,239 Speaker 2: three decades, you've had a month to live for three decades. 141 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 2: I don't know what the circumstances are, but thirty years 142 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 2: on food welfare and you're able to articulate and gesture 143 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 2: and enunciate and pronunciate and put emotion into your delivery. 144 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 2: I mean, she's doing everything. I came to the personal 145 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: conclusion you don't have to. I came to the personal 146 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 2: conclusion that this is an able bodied woman, and for 147 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 2: some circumstances that I don't understand, she's receiving money from 148 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: you and I as taxpayers. I know she's in New Mexico, 149 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 2: but we all pay for this. It goes from us 150 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 2: to the fans out to the states, and we've been 151 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 2: paying for her to eat and food banks volunteers for 152 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: thirty freaking years. Now, do you want to say that 153 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: I'm a jerk or whatever. That's fine, I really don't care. 154 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 2: What I'm trying to point out here is we have 155 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 2: a system that needs to be fixed, regardless of her circumstances. 156 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 2: Is it the role of the federal government for decade 157 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 2: upon decade upon decade, there's your three decades to feed somebody, 158 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 2: And is it the responsibility of not only the Feds 159 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 2: doing it visa the estates. But then she goes and 160 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 2: takes advantage of food banks. Now let's take the second person. 161 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 2: The second person has lost her job. Now, she appeared 162 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 2: to me to be able bodied. She struck me as 163 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: a little uncomfortable, saying, I mean, you know, I've lost 164 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: my job. I have compassion for those people, and I'm trying, 165 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 2: you know, I get the impression she's looking for a job. 166 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 2: I would still make the argument it's not the role 167 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 2: of the federal government. Just as we went to the 168 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 2: guy that ran the Butcher's shop in Fort Collins yesterday, 169 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 2: who was willing to help because he finally saw the 170 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 2: faces of people that needed help. But he was still 171 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 2: mad because I shouldn't have to be doing this, The 172 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: government should be doing it. So where do we draw 173 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: this line? And why is it that we can't have 174 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 2: this conversation. I guarant damn tee you that most people 175 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 2: will lower their eyes, they won't want to make eye 176 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 2: contact with you. If if you were to say to 177 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 2: your friend's family or anybody else what I said, they'll 178 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 2: either drop their head and not give you eye contact, 179 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 2: and or they're going to argue with you and call 180 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 2: you all sorts of names because you dare to question. 181 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: That's the problem, is that people are unwilling to question 182 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 2: what we're doing, and so therefore it just grows and 183 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: grows and grows, and then you end up with this 184 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 2: woman who admits, freely admits that for thirty plus years 185 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 2: she's been on food welfare. I just find it unacceptable, 186 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 2: and I find it shameful, shameful, but may not for 187 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 2: the reason you think. I find it shameful, understandable, but 188 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 2: shameful that we don't have a private sector charitable network 189 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 2: of organizations that without reliance on taxpayer money. So Trailhead Institute, 190 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 2: you're out of the picture, and all of the organizations 191 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 2: that you support out of the picture. I'm talking about businesses, churches, 192 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 2: individual volunteer, food banks, whatever it is. Why are we 193 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 2: not pushing toward that again, because we've abdicated our compassion 194 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 2: to the government and we expect the government to do so. 195 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 2: When you hand out something free, guess what, You're going 196 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 2: to get more and more and more people that want 197 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 2: the stuff for free. I want to give you an 198 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: example of this. So for the for the Michael Brown 199 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 2: minute last night again, I'm I'm scrolling around trying to 200 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 2: find local news. One of the local stories out of 201 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 2: Colorado is this Jared Polus, the governor of Colorado, has 202 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: decided that medicaid spending Medicaid not Medicare. Medicaid spending is 203 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 2: out of control in the state of Colorado, and he's 204 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 2: looking for ways to fill the gap. That let me 205 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 2: down the rat hole of trying to figure out why 206 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 2: is medicaid spending out of the hole? Do you know 207 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 2: why it is? Because the radicals in the Colorado pollt 208 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 2: Bureau did the following. They added new benefits to medicaid. 209 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 2: They expanded behavioral health, substance abuse treatment, higher dental caps 210 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 2: broader coverage for services such as therapy, sessions, and addiction treatment. Well, 211 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 2: guess what that means? That that increased utilization because you're 212 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 2: getting something for free, and now you're gonna go utilize it. 213 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 2: You're gonna go get it. That when you increase utilization, 214 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 2: you increase spending. So it goes like this, You increase coverage, 215 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: you increase usage, you increase usage, you increase costs. So 216 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 2: then I was very interested in so what is it 217 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 2: that Jared Polis is planning to do? How does he 218 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 2: plan to Now he says, slow down the spending, also 219 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 2: to cover the increased cost of the spending. Well, those 220 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 2: are two separate things. Now, they're not mutually exclusive exclusive. 221 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 2: I would like to see the increase in the cost 222 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: reduce or at least slow down, if not reversed, and 223 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 2: I'd certainly like to see the costs decrease. Well, guess 224 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 2: what he wants to do. He wants to reinstate capsule benefits, 225 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 2: in particular dental coverage. He wants to restrict provider rate increases, 226 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 2: so doctors, you may get a little more, but not 227 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 2: as much as you thought you were going to get more. 228 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 2: And he wants to limit eligibility or he wants to 229 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 2: tighten benefit offerings in order to slow the exponential growth 230 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 2: of medicaid spending. Does he not realize that he and 231 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 2: his fellow travelers in the polit bureau are the ones 232 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 2: that are responsible for that spending. Because you increase the benefit, 233 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 2: you expand to the coverage. Same things happen with Obamacare. 234 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 2: When you tell the insurance companies that you now have 235 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 2: to cover everything possible. You can't establish your own definable 236 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 2: risk pool. You have to put everybody in the risk pool. Well, 237 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 2: when you do that, you've got to account for that actuarily. 238 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 2: You've got to make certain that now you increase your 239 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 2: premiums because you're covering every damn thing under the sun. 240 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 2: So when you say to food stamp beneficiaries, welfare food 241 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 2: will fair recipients that well, we're going to expand your coverage, 242 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 2: We're going to expand your eligibility, what do you expect. 243 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 2: It goes back to you feed the straight cat. Straight 244 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 2: cat's gonna come back until you quit feeding a straight cat. 245 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 2: Then they go look elsewhere. Is that harsh. Maybe it is, 246 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 2: maybe it isn't. It depends on your perspective. But the 247 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 2: reality is this, if we ever want to get spending 248 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 2: the fiscal policy of this country under control, there has 249 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 2: to be a realization that we can't keep doing this. 250 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 2: And when you subsidize something or you give away something 251 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 2: for free, now I know it's not free, but to 252 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 2: a recipient it appears to be free. Then you get 253 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 2: more that consumption, you get more of that utilization, and 254 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 2: then at some point you step back. And what amazes 255 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 2: me is that the ABC affiliate in Albuquerque is so 256 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 2: dumb that they use that person that's been doing it 257 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 2: for thirty thirty plus years, that was their lead story. 258 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 2: Did they not realize that they just made the case 259 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 2: that somehow we've gotten to titan eligibility, that somehow we've 260 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: got to start privatizing some of these so called welfare 261 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 2: programs or entitlement programs, because wait a minute, we can't. 262 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 2: As the population grows, as the population gets older, we 263 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 2: can't afford this. We simply can't afford it. If you 264 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 2: want a social safety net, that's great. I'm not opposed 265 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 2: to having a social safety net. What we're debating is 266 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 2: what's the depth of that net? Is it one inch 267 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 2: deep or is it as it currently it's in the 268 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 2: deep water of the swimming pool, it's at least eighteen 269 00:16:55,080 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: feet deep. You get to have the conversation. And if 270 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 2: you're unwilling to have the conversation because it makes you uncomfortable, 271 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 2: maybe you're listening to the wrong program, because I'm here 272 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 2: to tell you exactly what the truth is. Koat down 273 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 2: in Albuquerque doesn't realize they just gave me all them 274 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 2: MOI needed. And to Dragon's point, did the reporter not? 275 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 2: Obviously it gets edited. It's only a two minute and 276 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 2: six second spot, so we don't know. But if I'd 277 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 2: been the reporter, even off air, I would have made 278 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 2: it part of my package. You know, we talked to 279 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 2: Elizabeth in Albuquerque. She's been on it for thirty decades 280 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,479 Speaker 2: off air. We wanted to know why, and here's what 281 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 2: she told us. You don't have to show her. You 282 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 2: don't have to, you know, have her on sound or 283 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 2: she can at least explain to your viewers why in 284 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 2: the hell is somebody on for thirty plus years with 285 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 2: no intention, no indication whatsoever that she has any desire 286 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 2: to ever get off. Comparing the tracks with the other 287 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 2: person who I'll be to me seems to want to 288 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 2: get off. Hey, ho jerk, that's it, Jimmy Christmas. I 289 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 2: mean it was expected, but they had at least another 290 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 2: twenty two seconds, didn't they. 291 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like that, that's it. Yeah, we're totally expected. 292 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 3: But well you could have filled in instead of sitting 293 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 3: back there in your fat ass. You could have filled 294 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 3: in and done the rest. You know, I wouldn't have 295 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 3: noticed the difference. I don't leave them, I just played them. 296 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 2: You could help the poor guy out he ran out 297 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 2: of majorities to call me, whereas you've got a whole list, 298 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 2: You have a whole book full, so you know most 299 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 2: of them. I can't stay on the radio, though, but 300 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 2: we could just heard beeps for thirty seconds. That would 301 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 2: be entertaining. That'd be entertaining. Speaking of entertaining, Joe Starborough 302 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 2: on Morning Joe Today literally welcomed and said, let's well 303 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 2: from the communists to the show, mom, Donnie shows up. Yeah, 304 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 2: I explain the difference. 305 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 11: What is the difference between it a democrat, a democratic 306 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 11: socialist and a communist? 307 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 2: Well, now do you think that? 308 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: Now? 309 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 2: I this is only thirty seconds. Just listen to the definition. 310 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 2: But I promise you they're not going to challenge anything 311 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 2: he says at all. 312 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 11: What is the difference between it a democrat, a democratic socialist, 313 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 11: and a communist. 314 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,959 Speaker 4: Well, I'm a democratic socialist who is also a democrat, right, 315 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 4: And when I say I'm a democratic socialist, I explain 316 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 4: it in the words of doctor Kington from decades ago, 317 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 4: who said, the call it democracy or call it democratic socialism. 318 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 4: There must be a better distribution of wealth for all. 319 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: A better distribution of wealth well of God's children in 320 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 2: this country, right. 321 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 4: And what I actually find is that when you're speaking 322 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 4: to New Yorkers, they ask you less how you describe 323 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 4: your politics and more whether there's room for them in 324 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 4: that politics. 325 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 2: And New Yorkers are asking me, does your. 326 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 4: Politics have room for my struggle to afford my rent, 327 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 4: my childcare, my groceries, And frankly, President Trump ran an 328 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 4: entire campaign focusing on the cost of living, focusing on 329 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 4: the promise of cheaper groceries, and his inability to do 330 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 4: so is now making him increasingly desperate to try and 331 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 4: stop the campaign that will actually deliver on the same 332 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 4: diagnosis that he shared Now, as I. 333 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 2: Told you earlier, he can't deliver on most of his 334 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 2: campaign promises because he doesn't have the authority to do so. 335 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 2: But have you ever thought about that? They proudly call 336 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 2: themselves the Democratic Socialists of America? Well, what is democratic socialism? 337 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 2: You can go to the website DSA USA dot org 338 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 2: DSA USA dot org. In fact, let me scroll back 339 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 2: to the front to the landing page. When you go 340 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 2: to the landing page, Oh there is which one is this? 341 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 2: This is not Elon Omar? Who's the other one? Rashida 342 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 2: Talib and Mom donning together on the landing page. Yes, 343 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 2: proud Democratic Socialists of America and you you then go 344 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 2: to the fact the FAQ page. What what are these? What? What? 345 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,239 Speaker 2: What do they stand for? In fact, here you can 346 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 2: learn more about democratic socialism. Cause you in the very 347 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 2: first sentence, first paragraph, capitalism is a system designed by 348 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: the owning class to exploit the rest of us for 349 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 2: their profit. We must replace it, replace it with democratic socialism, 350 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 2: a system where ordinary people have a real voice in 351 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 2: our workplaces, neighborhoods, and society. We believe there are many 352 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: avenues that feed into the democratic road to socialism. Oh, 353 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 2: it's a democratic road to socialism. Our vision pushes further 354 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 2: than historical social democracy and leaves behind authoritarian vision to 355 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 2: socialism in the dust benef history. That's what you drive, 356 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 2: but that's not what you do. You want to replace 357 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 2: a free market, capitalist country with a fundamental transformation where 358 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 2: you collectively own the key drivers that dominate our lives. 359 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 2: You want to collectively own energy, production, transportation. That's what 360 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 2: they want. They want single payer healthcare, socialized medicine, defunding police, 361 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 2: refunding communities, the Green New Deal, and more as a 362 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 2: transition to a freer, more just life. We want a 363 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:02,239 Speaker 2: democracy powered by everyday people. The capitalist class tells us 364 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 2: we are powerless, but together we can seize the means 365 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 2: of production. No, it doesn't say that. They don't go 366 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 2: that far. Instead they say, the capitalist class tells us 367 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 2: we are powerless, but together we can take back not 368 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 2: our country control, together we can take back control. So, yeah, 369 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 2: you want to seize the means of production. You're communists. 370 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 2: It's right there. You don't have to. You could read 371 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 2: it an eighth grade level and understand what they're telling. 372 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 2: Well maybe not. I don't know, because too many people 373 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 2: don't understand This is precisely what they're up to. This 374 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 2: is what they want, and we're too stupid to recognize it. 375 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 2: The Democrats and the gorules that represent the Democrat Party 376 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 2: are really beginning to melt down. Somebody let James Carville 377 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 2: out of his Heidi hole back on Friday to share 378 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 2: his increasingly in thing brand of wisdom with the American left. 379 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 2: He's on with Al Hunt. Al Hunt used to be 380 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 2: a pundit for the either the Associated Press or CNN. 381 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 2: I forget he was a talking head on one of them. 382 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 2: The Democrats. Now Dragon, I've checked this, I think twice, 383 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 2: because it's after all, it's James Carble. I think I've 384 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 2: got all of the bad words out of fact. I 385 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 2: think this was actually, if I recall correctly, last night, 386 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 2: he didn't drop any F bombs. Maybe he's on drugs. 387 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 9: The Democrats talk about democracy and you have you see 388 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 9: the importance of democracy and deserved in democracy and saying democracy, Well, 389 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 9: the truth of that is people are right when they 390 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 9: say this democracy is really imperfect, and they're going to 391 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 9: have to do if the Democrats would win the presidency, 392 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 9: the Senate, in the House in twenty twenty eight, which 393 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 9: is not impossible. 394 00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. 395 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 9: If you say likely possible, I don't know what word you know, 396 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 9: but it's certainly not impossible. 397 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 2: They are just going to have to, you know, Lily, 398 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 2: are you ready? This is what they want? And interestingly, 399 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 2: if it's right in line with the Democratic Socialists of America. 400 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 9: And Puerto Rican industry of Columbia States, they're gonna have 401 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 9: to the Congress does get The Constitution gives Congress power 402 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 9: over federal elections. I don't think they can read district, 403 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 9: but they they're things they're gonna do. They're gonna have 404 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 9: to do it. 405 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 2: Take over the make DC and Puerto Rico States Democrats strongholds, 406 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 2: nationalize federalized elections so that they can more easily cheat. 407 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 2: You know, it's easier to have a centralized cheating mechanism 408 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 2: than a decentralized cheating organization. 409 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 9: They're just gonna have to do it, and they may 410 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 9: have to expand. 411 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 2: The court to thirteen members. 412 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 9: Any of those things in isolation I would be skeptical about. 413 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 2: I would be any one of those is not good enough. 414 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 2: Any one of those in isolation, I would be skeptical. 415 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 9: But about I would say, well, I don't know if 416 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 9: that's the greatest idea in the world. If you're opening 417 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 9: Pandora's box or all kinds of things, I don't listen. 418 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,959 Speaker 2: This is fascinating to me. Any of those things alone 419 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 2: is just opening Pandora's box. 420 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 9: So you got to do everything if you want to 421 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 9: save democracy. I think you've got to do all those things, because. 422 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 2: Hm, wow, that's the Democrat Party of twenty twenty five. 423 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 9: But just of moving further and further away from being 424 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 9: anything closer to democracy. 425 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 2: Which is good because we're not a democracy. I haven't 426 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 2: gotten to that point yet. 427 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 9: I don't know if it's something that they should talk 428 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 9: about during the campaign. I guess you probably would want to, 429 00:26:58,560 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 9: because when. 430 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 2: Those are the things you want to do, but you 431 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 2: want to be deceitful, I'm not sure you want to 432 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 2: talk about those things during the campaign. So don't really 433 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 2: tell the American public what we really want because they'll 434 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 2: reject it. They will have a visceral reaction that says, 435 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 2: oh no, no, no, we don't want that. 436 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 9: But see, if you have a democratic House, a democratic senator, 437 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 9: and a democratic president, they should do that. 438 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 2: On day one, four more United. 439 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 9: States Senators, four more Supreme Court members, and some stringent 440 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 9: national legislation on how you can do. Congress they could 441 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 9: easily pass laws and you can only redistrict ONTs every 442 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 9: ten years. 443 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean. 444 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 9: What cementary consultates a crisis with Disupreme courts say you 445 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 9: can't expand to thirteen. They say that's some impediment to 446 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 9: adding two more states. 447 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 2: Sure, And what they do they don't. 448 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 9: Just issue ruling on the shadowed dock it saying it's overtured. 449 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 2: Right, you got to force a hand. 450 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, the shadow document is supposed to be the emergency document. 451 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 6: The only rule when there's an emergency the shadow document 452 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 6: now is emergencies or when Trump needs it. 453 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 2: And that's what they've done. They don't give you a 454 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 2: reason anymore. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Let me 455 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 2: just pause from them. Do you know why they use 456 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 2: the emergency dockets so much? Because so many rogue judges 457 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 2: at the trial level are issuing all of these conflicting 458 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 2: opinions and opinions that are in direct violation of the Constitution, 459 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 2: and they don't want those stupid opinions to linger out 460 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 2: there affecting the Constitution until it can finally, if ever, 461 00:28:55,920 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 2: get to them. That's why they do it, and by 462 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 2: the way, there's absolutely nothing unusual about that. 463 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 3: Ask not what your country can do for you, but 464 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 3: what you can do for your country. 465 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 2: A silly boy, Oh that was pretty naive. Ask instead 466 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 2: what you can get from your country. That's what you 467 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 2: need to do. That's what you can get from the 468 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 2: other taxpayers. Thinking about Carvil, that's really some good entertainment, 469 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 2: isn't it. In order to save democracy, as he puts it, 470 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 2: the Democrats have to unilaterally add Puerto Rico and DC 471 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 2: as new states because that allows them to undemocratically rig 472 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 2: the US Senate. They have to unilatterally add four additional 473 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 2: justices to the undemocratically in order to undemocratically rig the 474 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 2: US Supreme Court. They have to unilaterally in the filibuster 475 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 2: so they can undemocratically rig the Senate process and end 476 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 2: minority protections in the US Senate. They have to unilaterally 477 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 2: redistrict the entire country and in vote federal control over 478 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 2: the elections, a power that is specifically granted and reserved 479 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 2: to the states, so that they can help Democrats undemocratically 480 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 2: rig the national elections. And then he's skeptical whether they 481 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 2: should even talk about wanting to do any of those 482 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 2: things during the upcoming twenty twenty eight midterms or election 483 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,959 Speaker 2: up the midterms, because they are actually fearful the voters 484 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 2: might reject them through the oh democratic process of free 485 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: and fair elections. No, I know you can't make that 486 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 2: stuff up, and don't try if you laugh at this 487 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 2: kind of losing his mind, old fart all you like, 488 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,959 Speaker 2: and I started to do it myself, But understand that 489 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 2: all he is doing is preaching to a growing, increasingly 490 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 2: violent fire of soulless ghouls on the radical left who 491 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 2: hate you and would rather you were dead. When we 492 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 2: win the national events each and every day, a rising 493 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 2: number of those soless ghouls who are only too willing 494 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 2: to make that happen to you and your loved ones. Now, 495 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 2: Carvel's not the only elderly star ghul of the far 496 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 2: left out there in the public scaring children during Halloween's over. 497 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 2: They don't realize that they're still They're trying to scareless, 498 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 2: scare everybody. Here's the real life incarnation of the Daradal 499 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 2: character from the Homeland series. The former CIA director John 500 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 2: Brennan caught on video three separate times over the last 501 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 2: week as he did everything he could to directly address 502 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 2: the crimes that he committed from twenty fifteen through twenty twenty. Anyway, 503 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 2: why don't we go ahead and start taking audience questions? 504 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 2: Sound good? Why don't we start over here? It should 505 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 2: be on can you hear me? Okay? Good? 506 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 8: First, I want to introduce myself. My name is Tom Specially. 507 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 8: I've been a career intelligence officer for over twenty years 508 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 8: in the military for over thirty four years. I recently 509 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 8: left the D and I as a senior advisor for 510 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 8: TULCA Gabbert on counterintelligence and security, and in fact I 511 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 8: made many of the suggestions on dismantling some of the 512 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,719 Speaker 8: things that are being dismantled, and also made some suggestions 513 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 8: on improvements, which I'd love to talk to you guys 514 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 8: afterwards and get your feedback on, because hopefully it's going 515 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 8: to be going to some important desks very shortly. I 516 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 8: want to agree completely Director with your assessment on Iran 517 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 8: being on their heels. We've got to keep them on 518 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 8: their heels until they reform. We've got to do that. 519 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 8: I disagree on the deep state only because Trump says 520 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 8: it's the deep state, but as we all know it's 521 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 8: really just the entrenched bureaucrats. 522 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 2: That run the country. 523 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 8: I'll get to my question, I will, please, but I 524 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 8: want to establish sort of my bona fides on this 525 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 8: question before I ask it, because I really hesitated to 526 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 8: put you guys on the spot on this in public. 527 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 8: But if you're not going to be at the after hours. 528 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 2: I got to take my chance. 529 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 9: Now. 530 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 8: I was at the d and I when the first 531 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 8: ICA was released regarding cyber influence on the twenty sixteen election. 532 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 2: I was there. I was working in the NIM. I 533 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 2: read it. 534 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 8: I also was involved in setting up the Principal's Committee 535 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 8: meeting that took place in December that resulted in President 536 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 8: Obama directing a more fulsome because I understand the difference 537 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 8: between a cyber ICA and a total whole of government 538 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 8: ICA intelligence collection on Russian involvement or influence in the election. 539 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 8: And I noticed immediately in the ICA second ICA, because 540 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 8: I had access to the classified ICA, that there were 541 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 8: statements in that ICA that were not supported with the 542 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 8: sourcing that was associated to the ICA, specifically that president 543 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 8: that Putin had directed the action, and that Putin had 544 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 8: that the Russians were actively trying to support President Trump 545 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 8: instead of just so chaos. 546 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 2: Your question, My question. 547 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 8: There was there was there was an email that went 548 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:32,240 Speaker 8: around from General Clapper, from General Clapper to yourself and Hayden. 549 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, not not Hayden. 550 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:41,919 Speaker 8: Uh uh, you're yourself and Comy, et cetera, that basically said, 551 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 8: we all got to get on board with this, otherwise 552 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 8: it isn't going to work, basically, and I think that 553 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 8: email puts everybody in the crosshairs. 554 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 2: I would like to hear what your. 555 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 8: Justification was for supporting the dossa that was known to 556 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 8: be false being used as so material in the second ICA. 557 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 2: The ICA is the Intelligence community assessment in which the 558 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 2: Steele dossier was included, knowing that it was based in 559 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:18,240 Speaker 2: false intel. He's directed that question to John Brennan, former 560 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 2: director of the CIA. Yeah, pretty good, teas, wasn't it. 561 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 2: Wait to hear his answer next